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What is your favorite piece of Demon Souls or Dark Souls lore?
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Lord Gwyn in general.
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imagining what life was like in the peaceful state, before everything gets smashed to shit
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>>282716667
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So fucking comfy
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The one where people took shitty fan fiction as fact.
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>play the games
>pay no attention to the lore
>look it up and read about it
Shit's deep, yo.
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>>282716667

>Smashed

What are you referring to?
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>>282716097
Artorious saga.
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Everyone above and below these lines: Virgins

lmao
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>>282716097
>Demons souls
What is the name of that guy that killed everyone in the hub?
>Dark Souls
Artorias
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>>282716097
I believe dark souls is better than demon's souls in almost everything.
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>>282717156
and most of it is just autists making shit up
from has said they just put in stuff that seems cool
there's no deep meaning
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>>282717694

Technically your post starts above the top line. Virgin.
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>>282717694
If you used the word outside, you wouldn't be a virgin too
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>>282717891
there is meaning, but it's subjective with some objective things, such as the item descriptions and the environment, you see skeletons burned on bridge, dragon aloft etc... the stories there you just have to piece it together.
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>>282717981
>calling someone virgin on /v/
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>>282716667
I want to live in boletaria before the demons came
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>>282717851
Yurt the silent chief
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>>282717891

Nah, there's actually a fair amount of evidence that links up. You don't have to believe it. Speculation is part of the game. That doesn't mean everything is a jumbled mess simply because of it's ambiguity.

Complaining that the lore is silly is more autistic than the "fan theories" you're citing.
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The Maiden in Black is by far my favorite.
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>>282717873
>I played Dark Souls before Demon's souls

FTFY
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>>282718145
this
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>>282716097
The old hero and the shamans relationship to the storm king/ wondering about the broken archstone apparently flooded with fucking flamelurkers.
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>>282717891

So meaning only exists for you if the developers put it there? Man it must suck to be so unimaginative.
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>>282719048
>the broken archstone apparently flooded with fucking flamelurkers

I thought it was giants?
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>DeS
>NPCs question you if you walk away doing dialog
>DaS
>I think Andre is the only one doing this?
>DaS2
>too much effort
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The symbol of God was nothing more than the Image of the Old One.
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>>282719081

Pretty much anyone that hates the lore of the games lies and says "Miyazaki had no idea what he was doing."
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I'd love to see how Latria was before the second scourge.

I can imagine this place being anything other than fucked up.
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...?
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>>282716097
I think for me it is Dark Soul's premise of world logic and history.
In the beginning there was fog, nothing but dragons and beings in the pits of nothing. Then came fire and we all know the rest, aspirations and such.
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Cowardly acts and the eating of birds must not be the deeds of a Hero of Storms. If the one being judged displeases the Adjudicator's master, the Golden Crow, the deceased soul will be gnawed upon until nothing but their bones remain.
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>>282719358
For Demon's Souls, this. It's just such a nice subtle slap to the face with spine-chilling ramifications once everything clicks in your head.

Dark Souls... I'd say the story of Artorias and his fall from grace/redemption. Favourite character, favourite boss fight, favourite lore.
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>>282719358
this and the rivalry between sorcerers and saints
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>>282718901
I also played FFX before FF7 that doesn't stop me from liking FF7 a shit ton more, I just don't believe demon's souls has anything over dark souls.
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>>282716667
Just boletaria and the country its self interest me like what was it like before all this shit hit the fan.
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>>282719716
please explain
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which is a bigger meme? Umbasa, or Praise the Sun?
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Seygmir of Catarina
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Woe! woe to you who are crowned with the crown of the King in Yellow!
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Ivory King a best. Old Iron King is decent too.

>>282718145

Pretty sure Allant wanted everyone to die because Boletaria was always a shithole.
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>>282719948
umbasa is barely even a meme

UMBASA UMBASA UMBASA
UMBASA UMBASA UMBASA
UMBASA UMBASA UMBASA
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>>282716097
The four kings
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>>282719620
I have the old witch ring.
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DeS: As vague as this is, almost anything related to the Old One. It's such an interesting concept, even visually.

DaS: Probably the inner workings of the world. Humanity, souls, the fire, the dark, and how all those and other things connect to each other.
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>>282719698
*disparities
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>>282720106
There were 12 different kings of BOletaria.
Allant was probably the worst one.
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Artorias.
His lore is sad, but his might is something to behold.
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>>282720164
I just wish we got some more furtive pygmy lore :(
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>>282719908
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Be honest, you cosplay your weapons and characters to match a certain person.
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>>282719948

Touch the demon inside me is probably a bigger meme than umbasa.
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>>282716097
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>>282720230
Bet you he was one interesting mother fucker.
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>>282716097
>Priests worship god, bestowed with "miracles".
>Magicians learn how to use soul magic, and hate those religious people and vice versa.
>They get their power from the same source; the old one.
Finding the talisman of the beast is what all Souls lore should be like. No piece of equipment should leave you with more questions, or at least one piece should give you the truth.
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>>282720368
Fuck it.
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>>282720230
the furtive pigmy is manus.
he split his soul into pieces and created mankind.
then people did fucked up shit to him and he turned into a monster.
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>>282720114

They're basically ring wraiths from Lord of the Rings. Not that I'm complaining.
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the old one
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>>282720368
Hold my zweihander i'm going in dry
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>>282720494
I don't believe manus = furtive, manus is simply an ancient man not THE man, the furtive pygmy was meta as fuck.
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Maiden Astrae's lore is pretty cool, so is the story of the entire Tower of Latria.
In Dark Souls I really liked everything surrounding Artorias.
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Nito is the first of the undead right? what killed him? what did he look like before he was a big ass skeleton with shit attached to him?
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>>282720674
He probably fucked so many women.
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>>282719453

There is a musician, I wanna say Lennon, who when asked about the meaning to one of his songs, said something along the lines of "No that's not what it means, but most of my songs really have no meaning. People should derive their own meaning from my songs, that's what music is all about." And I think the same could be said about video games.
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>>282720718

No one really knows. In order for him to get a Lord Soul, he must've been somewhat important.
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>>282719334
DaS has stuff like this too. Talk to Qeelaag sister's a lot and she'll tell you that she enjoyed the conversation with you.
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>>282720929

Yea, that sounds about right. It's just a little bit worse than that when you hear people say that it's all fan made theories. There is much more glue that holds together theories than just wild guesses.
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>>282720338
I cosplay the coverboys of the series.
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I like Dark Souls but I'm not sure how it got this reputation as 'such deep lore'
I could probably sit down and write you fifty item descriptions of 'here is thing, maybe connection to old thing/person, but lost in time'
I've barely seen anything concrete that wasn't either straight up told to you, or directly contradictory with something else. And the rest is unbelievable conjecture made up by crazy people
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>>282716097
wondering why the fuck the old dragon slayer is in dark souls 2 but get no info on it because lol fuck u fromsoft
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>>282721370
it's up to you to believe the most likely scenario, probably he survived? who knows
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>>282721362

Nah.
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>>282721149
I know its bad to fan canon, but maybe he was some noble or just rewarded for being the first undead?
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>>282719727
>It's just such a nice subtle slap to the face with spine-chilling ramifications once everything clicks in your head.

Explain? It's been awhile since I've played DeS.
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>>282721370
maybe the smough and dragonslayer you fought were really just constructions/illusions, that really is the only good reason I believe.
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>>282721549
Want me to to come up with a ten paragraph hypothesis on the lore significance of 'nah'?
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>>282721362
Demon's and Dark souls wasn't like that. It was Dark Souls 2 that started the "everyone forgot" bullshit. At most, Dark Souls had 1-2 items with similarities to "it's ancient and knowledge of it is dwindling" sort of items but they also gave you enough info to figure it out.
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>>282721534
>the scenarios could have been better if we could get the fuckers armor and read what it says.
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>>282719334
The merchant dude in majula yells at you if you leave. The cat that hits on you bitches as well
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>>282721642
And maybe the Patches you kill in Demon's Souls was just an illusion because he's there in Dark Souls too?
Don't think too hard about this shit.
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>>282720338
>2015
>not cosplaying as Ostrava in DeS
>not cosplaying as Oscar in DaS

It's like people hate having fun.
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http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Breast
You're heading down a dark path
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>>282721925
anorlondo was an illusion that's why it's probable.
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>>282721746

You can do whatever you want. Saying that it's conjecture is laughable. There is plenty of good information that links up with enough thought and imagination. Refusing to believe it doesn't make you wrong, it just makes you sound stupid for thinking only "crazy people" are putting a puzzle together.
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I find the Painted World pretty interesting. The Firekeepers too. I really want to know more about Lautrec as well.

>>282719789

While I agree DaS is a better overall game (and my personal GOAT) I think Demons had better voice acting, textures and atmosphere.
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>>282721560
Saints and Sorcerors have been at odds (including their organizations) for fucking god knows how long. The talisman of beasts (worshipped as a symbol of god for the saints) is actually the Old One.

There is no other god, no benevolent saviour to balance out the Old One. There is just one god and he's always fucking hungry. He eats souls and shit out demons.
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>>282719196
it's the land of giants, but the creature on the archstone really looks like a flamelurker.

wouldn't be surprised if flamelurkers are like giant attack dogs.
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>That cutscene after you save him in the past
>He knows what you're trying to do
>He only tries to kill you because he wants to save you from a fate worse than death
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>>282719334
I could never walk away after tom said
>You have a heart of gold, don't let them take it from you
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>>282722009
>>not cosplaying as Ostrava in DeS
The problem with Demon's Souls was that some of it's equipment was very clearly total shit and was not made to do any respectable amount of damage.
Aside from that it was pretty cool. Meat cleaver and blue blood are best.
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Forgot pic
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>>282719948
the praise the sun gesture was in DeS also. Was weird seeing it as its own thing in DaS.
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>>282722341
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Really creepy shit like the Vallley of Defilement and how the final are is where people basically went to abort their babies.
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>>282722462
>>282722341
that's retarded
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>>282719358

this is definitely the best one. Completely shows the delusion of Clerics and priests that their magic is pure and holy.

How did the Old one actually came into being in Demon souls? i knew he was into a deep sleep, but what did awake him?
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>>282719727
You are now aware that miyazaki just wanted to make a berserk game without getting a license
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>Your progenitor found another soul. The Dark Soul

>The Age of Dark, the Age of Man

>Once, you humans were one with the Dark

>Game is called Dark Souls even though you only hear about one

So are humanities actually dark souls, or fragments of the Dark Soul?
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I want to see what carim is like, and why people from there are batshit crazy. unless oswald and lautrec were banished from carim because they were crazy?
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>>282722569
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>>282722713
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>>282722646

Alant and his soul art fuckery
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>>282722824
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I legitimately think DASII'S dlc lore was nice
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>>282716097
Miralda is my personal favorite

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/miralda

Didn't know about world tendency at the time, saw random new door open. Explored, walked through another door and got chopped to bits by her.

Then she laughed that cute laugh. Also best fucking armor set in the game for a LONG time if you roll a female.
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>>282722646
Allant's fault, though it's not specifically stated how or why. My guess is he was a greedy king seeking power, stumbled upon the old one and where it slept and woke it up.
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>>282722683
Humanities are fragments of the Dark Soul. Every descendant of the pygmy (in other words, every human) carries humanity.
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>>282722941

This is all there is. As far as I know it was never finished.
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>>282717434
When everything goes to shit
>DeS The demon god thing and the fog
>DaS The First flame going out and the darkness taking over
>DaS2 Who gives a shit, You probably forgot to get eggs at the store or someshit
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>>282716097

Pic related
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>>282723142
The queen was trying to steal the flame or some shit and vendrick locked all that shit away to stop her then went hollow.

She then pretty much OoT ganondorfs you after you recover all the shit.
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>>282722569
actually, Nito was disintegrating a dragon with his miasma in the intro, not a tree.

Without the scales his power could bring them death.
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>>282722648
And that, my friend, is perfectly fine with me.
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>>282722162

Wait, so the Talisman of Beasts itself is The Old One?
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Pic related you fucking nerds.
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>>282716097
I really like the Witch of Izalith and her whole fucked up family.

She wanted to recreate the flame that brought about life and meaning, and ended up creating an endless bed of explosive, never ending life that was corrupted in the form of demons.

I love how all of her children ended up fucked up due to her mistakes. I love how Chaos combines both the imagery of lava and churning , scalding fire with the constant wild growth of trees and weeds. I love how the weapons of Demons all look like they were broken off of branches or were carved from wood or just grew on the damn vine that way.

I also love the idea that she tried to recreate the first flame, but instead created a sea of lava, an "imperfect" flame.
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>>282723561
Dunno why people keep saying this about Souls, literally everything is said in item descriptions
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>>282723368
I think someones said she cant get the rite of kindling by her self and there for cant touch it without you

Its really one big non problem
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>>282720369

you sure? his whole thing was being "easily forgotten"
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>>282723503
No... but Clerics and Saints consider it the likeness of God, the benevolent one that is at odds with the Old One (widely regarded as the Devil of sorts).

The thing is, that likeness IS the Old One, meaning there is no benevolent god and they've been worshipping Santans and drawing their power from him all along.
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>>282722976
>mfw The Old Chaos
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>>282722462

Holy shit that's retarded
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>>282723694
They've only played Dark Souls 2 which is really relatable to that picture.
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The fact that red eyes knights and smashed my shit after I came back from DaS to DeS
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>>282720718
We don't know if he was the first thing to die or the first dead thing that grabbed a lord soul

I think he's just death in general
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I don't know about Demon's Souls yet, I'm still trying to beat it. I'm at the Maneaters at the moment, though I've gone through pretty much every area a little bit, finishing a few of them.

It's weird, the two of them definitely seem easy enough for me to beat, but I always end up fucking up at the last minute. It's this FUCKING ASSHOLE PHANTOM on the staircase who always makes me rage and try a different world out. Seriously, fuck him. He's a non magic users worst nighmare.
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>>282723807
He didn't want his hoes talking about him.
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>>282719716
I never really got the mythology behind the Adjudicator.
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>>282722089
Only the sun was an illusion, anal londo was real just abandoned
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>>282723998
Get a thief ring and run towards him when he's going up. If you're a non magic user and still can't fuck him up with a couple of hits I don't know what to say
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>>282723998
You have to pretty much kill him in combo
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Demon's
>The mother of all demons is a qt with pancake eyes
>The motherfucking Land of Giants
>The Shadowmen and the entire Tower of Latria saga

Dark
>Gwyn leading the rebellion against the Dragons with motherfuckers like Nito and Seath behind him
>The tragic fall of Artorias
>Ash Lake
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>>282716097
That pinwheel was just some schmuck who was trying to bring his murdered family back to life by stealing nito's power, dun goofed and fused his wife and son in his own body. Then the player comes along and wrecks his shit while he's trying to figure out how to split them from him (as is demonstrated by his splitting move)

That and his theme has people whispering "I'm sorry. I'm so sorry".
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>>282722114
If I remember correctly the painted world was the first level they did / tested on which is probably why it's so well made, I think that at the end of the day they had a level made and just threw that shit in there with vague lore
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>>282724056
The only things left in the shrine of storms are skellies which suggests they ate birds and displeased the adjudicator. The other "heroes" must have moved on or died properly, with the exception of the old hero.
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>>282724215
I forgot about that ring, with the cling ring and regen ring on I'm always switching. I really aught to stop using the regeneration ring, it doesn't even seem fair.
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>>282720368
Okay so I know I'm going to get 'muh sjw' shit for this, but is Gwyndolin a man or a woman?

Yeah yeah I know, born as a man, raised as a woman, daddy was disappoint, but Gwyndolin has very fair features and tits. And Gwyndolin wasn't a human, so is it possible that by being raised as a woman, he became a woman?

Or does Gwyndolin just lift so hard he got gyno?
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>yfw these are abortions
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>>282724432
I wish I could read moon...
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>>282724247

Hmm that would explain a lot, not least why its one of the least optimized areas of the game apart from Blighttown. That separate and self enclosed feeling works with the concept of the place though. A pocket dimension held within a painting that holds the things the gods find offensive.
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>>282724564
>Implying Garl Vinland even tapped that
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Probably Kirk if just lore. I love Siegmeyer's character the most though, just for his personality.
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>>282722806
>mfw content
ha, at least it's not the enlightened
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>>282723561

You one of those idiots who played DS2 first?
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>>282724502
Why?
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What's the best Artorias weapon? I want to play as him but all his weapons sound pretty shitty
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i don't quite understand why Miralda(DeS) calls you a''traitor'' when you fight her in 1-1.Are you supposed to be some kind of former Allant's servant?I don't think so because at the beginning of the game you clearly see yourself arriving in Boletaria,so I always assumed that you're some kind of errand knight-hero wannabe
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>>282722397
>Get to Manus
>Summon Sif
>Ready to take revenge for Artorias
>AAAAHHHH YEA, BEST BATTLE EVER
>Completely hesitant to attack Manus and dies in a few hits

I guess that's what I get for not feeling sorry for him when I whooped his ass.
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>>282722806

The funniest part about this picture is the creator's self insert with "The Content." I love it when virgins try to justify their virginity.
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>>282724502
is this shit official?
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>>282722683
>Game is called Dark Souls even though you only hear about one
Fun fact, the game was originally under a different title that loosely translated to Dark Ring (the accursed dark sign) but an office member mentioned a butthole and they figured too many people would link the name with anus' so they changed it to Souls to fit it into a series of games.
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God created the Old One. However the God the clerics worship is not God, but the Old One. This is revealed by Talisman of Beasts, True Allant's dialogue and retroactively, the intro cutscene. Saying it's the same individual is incorrect, the clerics were merely blindly worshipping the thing that gave them "Miracles."
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>>282724937
All of his weapons are god tier for people who level up. I'm level ~400 ish now and the true artorias greatsword has 685 attack power. It's fucking amazing. Cursed one is perfect for new londo ruins and the abyss greatsword has a really fun move set and I think powers up with your humanity?
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>>282725128
I'm fighting him now but his sign doesn't show up even though I found him. Got the shield and all. But if he's not going to be much help oh well. Manus is fucking my butt anyway.
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>>282724937
curse greatsword
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>>282724937
You technically need about 20 in Str, Dex, Int and Faith to properly use all of them, but as long as you have the physical requirements you can swing it fine
I used Abyss Greatsword for a while, it was fun. You get to do his flip
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>>282725340
>Coming at them head on.
>Not just sneaking up on them or using anti-magic field.
Your balls must be enormous.
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>>282725171
I wouldn't really know how to justify it though.
It's just... I don't go out around with people, at all almost.
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>>282725340
>>282724432
I played this game yesterday, I don't remember it looking this bad.
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Sometimes when I play DeS (haven't in over a year) I take screenshots of the annoying shit

like these guys, fuck you! worth carrying a bow on switch for these shits.
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>>282725331
Sif is useless in that fight. If you've got the skill to beat Manus you can do it without Sif. If not Sif isn't going to help.
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>>282725314
I'm pretty sure the lighting zwei has 500 attack power and a chaos large club has near 600 when you have humanity. 685 doesn't seem all that much for being level 400 comparatively.
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>>282725613
demon's axe +15, 51 STR, soul level 100, ant that nigger still wrecked my shit.
Kalameet really was a cakewalk with a fast roll, but manus is a bitch.
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>>282725532
Well, those are as high quality screenshots you will get from DeS, all it does is expose the lack of AA. Almost all console games have 2xFXAA, nothing great by any means, but it does blur the edges a bit. I'm pretty sure DeS has no AA at all.

it of course looks better in motion, probably sitting back from a tv
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>>282725465

Actually fighting them head on two handed and staggering them is one of the best ways of dealing with them.
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>>282725686
>685 doesn't seem all that much for being level 400 comparatively.
It's a greatsword, that's amazing attack for a greatsword.
Also greatswords are the best swords.
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>>282725832
>Almost all console games have 2xFXAA
I don't think so
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>>282724917
>>282725181
Yes official.
>A family of three
>mother and son die
>father goes crazy with necromancy
>brings them back but they are all burdened
>some symbolism shit that I don't remember
Player turns up in his office and says "I quit", kills boss, boss says "do you work here?"
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>>282724937

Abyss Greatsword if you are 100~ because it actually scales up to 10 Humanity and has a higher damage modifier than it's AR suggests, much like the BKH. The other two are only really "good" with very high stats, but are still fun to use regardless.
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>tfw unable to play demon's souls as anything other than just a knight
>halfswording will never be a thing in souls
>instead we get retarded DOOAL WIELD powerstance
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Last time I played was when they put DeS on the PS store, it was also free for PS+, I think. It had a lot of activity then, a short revival. Lots of new players, lots of people who only played DaS. They had no clue what the scraping spear was. I'd invade the same people multiple times since DeS didn't have the failure p2p shit das did. They would message me asking how I broke their gear and to leave them alone. All they knew after multiple invasions was to turn their backs and run from me.

So many of them ran right into the exploding carts in stonefang.

>>282726000
Well, a lot of 7th gen games did have some form of AA. Especially those made 2010 and later. 2009 and prior, a lot of games had none.

https://forum.beyond3d.com/threads/list-of-rendering-resolutions.41152/

I was actually right, DeS had no AA at all and DaS had 2xAA
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>>282726209
>tfw unable to play dark souls as anything other than a DEX/Pyro.
>Spear in right, shield in left because of 'block-while-attack'
>become accustomed to it
>pyro for distance cheap shots
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>>282725937

Did a bit of fiddling with the char planner and I suppose you're right. Still seems a little low though.
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>>282725907

Correct, once they begging to either do any of their attack animations they have hyper armor. If your first attack doesn't stun, train yourself to roll out of the way.

Usually running up from behind and backstabbing can give a good enough window to finish them off in a combo. Blocking is a death sentence.>>282725937
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>>282726516
That's shit tier
>dark souls
>magic
I didn't even look at it since the got rid of mana and put a limit on use for spells. Fuck that shit, full melee, not even fpr miracles like second chance (if there's any).
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>>282724407
It almost feels like Gwyndolin being a man was a translation error or a last minute change. There's a lot pointing to the contrary.
>Character model has breasts
>Fairly androgynous voice, but everyone thought it was a females voice in the early trailers
>Official artwork of Gwyndolins clearly female body
Among other things.
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I forgot what these were called. I think you get them with PBWT

Boletaria is max comfy, even with the toothy vagina thing sitting here.
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>>282726713
What the hell weapons do you use where 700 attack is low?
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>>282726832

>Spiked Shield

Better be Sharp. Ah the unpleasant memories.

Also I'm pretty sure one of them a chick. My favorite BP was the meat cleaver surprise in 5-2
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>>282726995
Primeval demon, which makes me think it's really important but it's really only there to boost your world tendency.
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Who /played Demon's before Dark came out/ here

Tower Knight is still my favorite Souls boss fight. I love it.
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>>282719948
Wasn't Praise the sun in Borderlands 2?
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>>282722569
>>282722713
>>282722824
>>282722941
>>282723112
I prefer this retelling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9x_koRZ2bA
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>>282726839
>endurance and resistance are separate stats
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That one Praise the Sun guy is a total fucking homo
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>>282727093
yeah, she can catch you off guard, considering you can't roll in the swamp.

>>282727124
I remember running into one and having no clue what it was. I approached it with shield up and it didn't do shit. If you stand in front of it, it will stick it's spear tongue through you
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>>282726713

Even though it's split damage, it's high enough that it's well worth using. It's on a different level from a mere Chaos+5 weapon. I've pvp'd with Arty swords on max SL and that range combined with the sheer damage is fantastic.
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>>282727002

I think I'm just overestimating the scaling and expecting more. I've never taken a char that high myself before, usually want to go experiment with a new build after the first NG+. I'm pretty sure in Demons the stat scaling never tailed off that much.
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>>282727281
I did
I was shitting my pants so hard that I didn't even notice the stairs to the archers. I killed that motherfucker with the archers shootin me
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>>282719358
Yeah, came here to say this.

Big spoiler though.
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>>282727124

Seriously? Primevals are your main source of Colorless Souls each playthrough. Way more important than just shifting WT.
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>>282727281

I did. Never got past the Flamelurker till after I completed Dark though, had no idea wtf I was doing and didn't understand the weapon stat screen.
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>>282727609
>The dual katana jump
NOTHIN' PERSONNEL
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>>282727281
HA HA-HA-HA HA
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These games had lore? Felt like a bunch of random fantasy shit. Didn't really give a shit, loved the fuck out of the atmosphere.
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>>282727727
Most boss weapons that are upgraded with colourless souls are pretty useless in my experience. It didn't even increase the weapon attacks power. I don't think I upgraded very much.
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>>282716373
Lord General Gwyn is the best Warhammer 40 King.
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best looking armor set in the franchise coming through
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>>282727842
I fucking loved the Bramd but only the poison resist went up when you upgraded. It was bullshit
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>>282727842

>DBS
>Adjudicator Shield
>DSS
>Fucking Hiltless

Nah man nah
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>>282727970
That's not ornstein's
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The moment I realized the titular Dark Souls actually referred to Humanity. Or maybe that was really obvious from the start? I don't quite remember what item description I read that made it clear to me.
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I tried playing Demon's Souls but playing a souls game on anything but mouse and keyboard with dsmfix feels like shit.
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Flame Keeper Anastacia of Astora being a mute because her tongue was ripped out.

Then consuming her soul to upgrade estus flasks
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>>282727727
>not just using dupe glitch for colorless souls and stones
I got the platinum so you niggas can't get mad at me
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A very large amount, if not the majority of people on /v/ at this point who play(ed) DaS/DaS II have never played DeS.

>>282728172
>No plume
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>>282728216
>souls with mouse and keyboard
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>>282728126
>Regen ring
>Blessed Greatsword
>Adjudicater Shield
Das it mane
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Seath raping Gwynevere causing her to give birth to Priscilla and then fleeing Anor Londo.
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>>282728304
post penetrator
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>>282721370
I think it's just one of Ornstein's knights.
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>>282720929
Huh, the only related thing I can remember along those lines is an interview with Dick Valentine from Electric Six who said they had meanings for their songs at their conception but they forgot along the way.
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>>282728443
don't think I have any of him
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>>282724081
princess was too
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>>282720026
No mask! No mask!
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>>282728327
>souls with a controller. They should have just hired the dsmfix guy to implement proper m+kb controls to every game they make. So much better than being forced to use a controller.
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>>282728216
That's too bad for you then
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Everything about Vinheim and magic makes my dick hard.

Logan's quest, why was he banned from Vinheim, is Griggs a spy, spying for what, what is everyone up to ?

And also the general story of magic in DaS' wolrd with Seath linking crystal to the souls and stuff is really great and could be expanded in so many ways
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>>282728682
I still remember my first time against Tower Knight good times Demons souls will always be my favorite
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>>282728682
The tower night shield was the shit, nothing like Havel's stuff.
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>>282724215
I was a STRONK heavy weapon user and I could still sneak up on him for the backstab, you just cannot run or else your armor will clink and get his attention. Stay far enough away that you can just barely see him, then wait for him to turn around.

The area after the Maneaters has two BP Mind Flayers that cannot be avoided and cannot be backstabbed since you face them in an extremely narrow hallway.
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>>282728918
>fighting giants in swamp with tower shield
>panicking because fuck giants
>tower shield eats the fucking attack and leaves me with no stamina but zero damage
THE BEST SHIELD IN ANY GAME
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>>282727920
virgin spotted but not only that you're a fucking nerd too
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>>282728918
you mean this shield? I think you get this set after killing the executioner bitch in 1-1 with PBWT. You have to drop down all those rafters and if you slip, you're ded. Also, you better have that inventory load item.
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>>282728730

>playing games with a typewriter

Sure thing grandpa, drink your 970 and go to bed already
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>>282729172
Those trolls in higher NG's give me more nightmares than Raime
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>>282724987
>>282724987
Traitor to Humans?
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>>282724564
The japs just over-explain the joke in their comics, there's no point in reading them.
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>>282729258
Don't even get me started on Pure black tendency, or getting the sword "Blind" from the swamp
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>>282724987
Isn't it because you start becoming something of a demon yourself after collecting demon souls? I could have sworn an NPC mentions something about you being different after you acquire a number of demon souls.

maybe she sees you as a person slaying demons just to gain their power, becoming a demon yourself.
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>>282729197

No, the legit Tower Shield that drops off the BP in 1-4 or under the bridge in 1-2. Has the highest stability of all shields and good resists, but the only thing heavier is Bramdt.
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man this is making me want to play DeS again.
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Blighttown or Gwyn and his children.
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>>282724757
Yea it works but really there is little lore about ariamis and pricilla, though it makes sense velka's shit is there seeing as how she was basically che guevera of lordran
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>>282729197
That's Biorr shield, the tower shiled is under that bridge in the screenshot, from where Biorr is found prisoner all the way back in the dungeon until you find it on the ground, iirc.
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>>282728327
It's actually better.
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>>282727281
I did. Pre-ordered that shit so fast because of some dude who used to make threads of his asian version playthrough.

>>282729390
that's true.
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>>282729518
>>282729660
I remember now.
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>>282729527
Latria 2 gives me the fucking creeps and Valley of Defilement is still a nightmare
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>>282729492

Or it could be because she's BATSHIT INSANE.

I did like that little move they did by putting her Black Phantom on the other side of the door. First time I went in in pure black I raced around, swinging, but saw nothing. Then she oneshot me and that's how I found out NPCs could do back stabs too.
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>>282729527
I left my computer at home, brought my PS3 to college.
Replaying with heavy faith build. It feels so dated and ugly. Especially after 60 fps DaS2 with mods.
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>>282716097
Darkwraiths and Forest Hunters. Tying invasions to covenants with clear goals that fit into the setting in distinct ways was really cool. I'd say Darkmoons and Gravelords too except they never worked.
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>>282729197
Also I beat the centipede nigger with havel's set. That was bretty gud, bitch couldn't slam me to the ground.
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>>282716097
I don't know if it's real or not but supposedly in DeS all of the characters you meet are actually dead. They do not really understand that they are. You can find most of their corpses through out the worlds. Even Mephistopheles in 3-2.

Again I don't know if it's for sure or if it was just a fan theory I may have read.
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>>282729648

There's that creepy crow that watches you every time you are in Firelink.
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>>282729962
And for DeS I just loved how each of the NPCs were involved in the levels, and you could come across their black phantoms and all that.
Having the NPCs actually travel in and out of the Nexus, or to and from Firelink Shrine as you progressed did a lot to make the two game worlds feel alive. It was one of my biggest disappointments with Dark Souls 2 that, when you got an NPC to come to Majula, they'd end up never doing anything else.
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>>282730015
where do you farm those stones?
>>282729915
There's not even the ↑ + R2 attack.
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You will now hear Old King Doran's ear piercing death scream
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>>282725465
>Anti-Magic Field
You want him to play at 2 fps?
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>>282730131
They're all in the Nexus, same as you. Of course they died.
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>>282727970
>We never got to revisit this area
Greatest tragedy.
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>>282729754
Yeah Latria is cool as hell too, everything about it is unsettling.

>>282729915

Yeah I gotta make a new char anyway since my last PS3 shit itself and I lost all my data, I was thinking of rolling a mage or some shit.
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>>282730131
Meh DeS has many different alternate dimensions. They are probably alive in their home one. Thats how the lore justifies invading and summoning help, you are just entering their 'world'
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>>282730131

It's a reposted fan theory. It's an interesting read but it takes a few too many liberties to have any weight.
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>>282730254
Just use the dupe glitch, they're only useful for co-op or whatever. I suicide in the nexus when I'm human so I don't ruin my world tendency
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>>282728850
>Logan was banned
>Griggs may be a spy
I never really fucked around with magic too much, what's all this? I thought Logan just wanted to satiate his Seath lust, and Griggs was just a magic groupie?
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>>282730171
That's prob velka or something seeing as it takes undead to lordran, and the prophecy says that an undead will come and kill the gods or something I never payed much attention, I just got pretty interested in velka and how she's basically a terrorist responsible for dark souls 9/11
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>>282730520

What's the dupe glitch?
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>>282730326
I thought it was that they retreated to the Nexus for safety? Besides the Crestfallen warrior who is obviously dead.

My mistakes if I'm sounding completely wrong here. I love the games but I only half ever pay attention to it's lore.
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I never fought that Old King guy in Demon Souls that you need Ostrava's key to access. I was going to fight him but I didn't know killing Allant would lock in your ending. Did I miss out?
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>>282729492
>Isn't it because you start becoming something of a demon yourself after collecting demon souls? I could have sworn an NPC mentions something about you being different after you acquire a number of demon souls.
>maybe she sees you as a person slaying demons just to gain their power, becoming a demon yourself.


yeah but SHE is a demon herself. also as long as you keep getting souls(power) you get to keep your sanity(even tho your lust for power/souls increases)
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>>282726209
>That bascinet
Muh dick. I'm thinking about buying one for $230. That or a sallet.
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>>282730876
You missed out on the North Regalia, the sexier weapon ever
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>>282730708
We don't know, it's all speculation, we know griggs is useless and found trapped with another dead sorcer, and there was another sorcer in sens fortress
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>>282729184
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I fucked your mum though lel
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>>282722086
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>>282730839
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LotVhqiKtsY
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>>282730708
Logan wasn't banned, but he became undead and went to Lordran seeking knowledge.

Griggs is wearing the black sorcerer's set
>Cloak worn by the secret sorcerers at
Vinheim Dragon School.

>They secretly work with sound-based spells,
and never reveal themselves.
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>>282731237

Hey thanks
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>>282731308
I wonder what ol Rickert did
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>>282718762
I think my world just got mended.
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>>282730871
Crestfallen Warrior is just the only one who is in soul form.
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>>282730876

You can either rush to 1-4 and get the Key from Ostrava, or kill him like the Demon you are in 1-1.

Be warned though, Doran isn't a joke on NG, and in NG+ his power is fucking off the wall. He could probably solo the Ancient Dragon like Raime.

In any case it's worth fighting him at least once since his armor is great, his ring is great, and his death scream will haunt your nightmares. Make sure you do Hyper Mode with Clever Rat Ring, Morion Blade, and your strongest weapon to kill him quick.

He will also full heal after losing 50% hp if you don't pressure him.
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I played Demon's Souls so much I platinumed it 3 times over. Granted, I glitched Dupepile Thomas, but that's only because I couldn't be assed grinding for certain stones.

You can do all world tendency shit in one single playthrough if you do it right. I played so much I figured all of that shit out without a guide.
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>>282731237
What the hell was up with those chairs anyway?

I feel like Tower of Latria is in desperate need of more explanation. All I got out of it was:
>King left the land in search of knowledge, ways of stopping the fog/old one
>Came back enlightened and circled in a brilliant golden robe, but seemed kind of evil and had a bunch of demons in tow
>Ruled Latria with an iron fist, did horrible things to the royal caste, locked many in the jail cells so they'll slowly go mad
>Perhaps to obtain some sort of false hope, Dredgelings create and worship the False Idol
>Giant heart for no reason
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>>282731441
He had the gay.
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>>282731664
I sorta miss the loading screen transitions with the art of the NPC's
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>>282730257
Don't worry, it'll be in the next patch.
:^)
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Gwyndolin being raised as a daughter
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>>282731695

The Queen banished her depraved old husband from the land. One day, he returned in strange golden garb with foul Demons in tow.

Also I'm pretty sure he created Fool's Idol to trick them into going above to become Demons of their own free will. You can see the giant Heart is creating those things, they prop out when it gets crushed. The Gargoyles, Manscorpion things and even the Maneaters all have the faces of the inhabitants. It was theorized that the Heart was somehow keeping the old monk alive.

Also the yellow cloak was a Demon itself that was only looking for stronger hosts.

I agree though, it's intriguing and I wish we had more backstory on it.
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>>282720309
LOL.
Yesterday I was replaying DeS and it was the first time I notice the bird. I don't know how many time I have played the game and just as I was finishing him off I noticed. The shield image thought it was an eagle, never care to see it in that angle....
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The last boss of Demon's Souls and how he's a weak garbage piece of shit that you barely wanna kill because he's so pathetic.
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>>282732630
Fool, do you not understand? Nobody wishes to go on.
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Personally, this was my most favorite moment.

How the Maiden just treats this giant, soul consuming monstrosity that basically doomed the entire land if not stopped, like a puppy show how powerful she herself must be, if only for the fact that only she can lull it back to slumber.
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I've always loved Blighttown and the Valley of Defilement.

Mechanically, they're both tedious as shit to clear, but the zones themselves are enough to give me half a boner, Maiden Astraea/Garl Vinland and Daughters of Chaos included.
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>>282732960
>Please take this
>This is all of me
I kind of got hard
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>>282716097
The idea of going hollow.

getting stuck and repeating the same part over and over.

That is what being hollow is.
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Postin art
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>>282731695
>>King left the land in search of knowledge, ways of stopping the fog/old one

More like;
>Husband of the Queen gets exiled for some reason
>While wandering through the world he found a golden robe
>He comes with a newly made army of demon Cthulhu's sons and shit
>BTFO the queen and acquires total power of Latria
>Put the highborn in the cells and let them become fucked up and experiment with them
>He creates a False Idol to be worshiped by the people in the form of the queen
>The Golden rope takes total control and it's revealed that the king was a mere pupped of the robe

The interesting thing about Tower of Latria is that it shows that non living thing can become demons and the theme of the place just like The Valley of Defilement is the man-made evil, both places were horrible (The prison was used for torture before the demons came and the valley was full of abortions and old and sick people that no one wanted) places with or without the demons.
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Yuria is the best thing about DeS because of that one h-doujin.
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>>282733269

Thanks.
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>>282733485
I love her feet.
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>>282732960
Valley of Defilement was the only area in any game that I genuinely never wanted to return to.

After the first run I always just rushed through it as fast as I could.
It wasn't so much the tedium but rather just that unpleasant taste it left in my mouth with all of the tedium, slow ass walking, !POISONED! and all of the black phantoms jesus christ Selen you need to calm your tits, Astraea, babies and of course the atmosphere which combined it into this feeling of utter disgust.
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>>282734142
It was a long journey but it was worth it in the end. That sanctuary of Astrea was some fucked up shit.
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>>282720026
thought it was cool that he was sitting on top of a fuckload of chairs. i guess its a throne or something, does anyone else know if this is supposed to have more meaning to it?

also the idea behind the worshipper bringing the false idol back, being that a god or idol or whatever is only powerful while it is being worshipped is a really cool idea
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>>282733269
Who Heide here
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>>282734142
>>282732960
>>282734572

I wonder what would come next in Bloodborne from Miyasaki. Probably a new level in the sewer of the city with mole-people.
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Favorite Story = The Burnt Ivory King. Second place is a tie between the Legend of Artorias and Alonne and the Iron King

Favorite Character = Seigmeyer as a person. Artorias as far as design.
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>>282733738
this art is so dissonant, you have that extremely well-rendered cloak and background and then a plain animu face

I don't like it
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>>282733269
I fucking love the Four Knights
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>>282716097
did anyone ever find out what shape those invisible statues in anal rondo were? i always thought they might show us how the actual firstborn looked
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>>282735051
I was about to post that. Ivory King was GOAT with his waifu Alsanna.
>So powerful and inspirational that he changes the heart of the Child of Dark
>To this day she stands watch over the forsaken kingdom in his honor.
>Even bids you to not be tempted by the dark
Alonne and Iron King was cool too.
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>>282733269
>you will never hang out with them
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>>282716097

Alva and Zullie

>You'll never travel from land to land with your tsundere Witch/reformed villainess girlfriend

Why even live? It's a crime they weren't added to the game, but fucking Raime was.
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>>282735234
>Such a loving and powerful king that he the avatar of darkness dedicated the rest of her life to his final wish

Not to mention this guy decided to plant his throne right in front of the gates of hell because damned if he isn't going to face any challenge before he tells his men to
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>>282735091
I don't like you.
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>>282719334
>>NPCs question you if you walk away doing dialog

Tonnes of NPCs do this in DaS1/2.
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>>282734921
Now that I think about it, Old Monk deposed the ENTIRE fucking ruling cast to get where he was, and all of those chairs were nice as fuck chairs. Maybe they represent the ruling caste that he locked up and tortured down below.
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>>282735298
I wish Ornstein had gotten some kind of cameo in AotS. I know why they didn't do it, because they were afraid that the player would kill him prior to reaching Anal Rodeo but a few words wouldn't have hurt.
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>>282735298
>You will never serve Nito
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>>282722009

>Tfw you get EK/Alva armour super early in DaS2

I fucking love playing traditional sword and board knight.
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>>282735518
Could have had him as an invading/summonable phantom.
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>>282735178
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>>282735545
Nito is one of my favorite bosses just because of his design. Shame he's a cakewalk
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>>282735715
Is it "Ornsteen" or "Ornstein" like the jews say it
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>>282735835
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>>282727281
I played it after Dark Souls came out, but had never heard of either game and just saw Demon's Souls on the shelf at my LGS.

Does that count?
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>>282735715
>You will never polish Gough's glorious thick greatbow
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>>282735835

Steen.
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>>282735835
I thought that WAS how the Jews said it
My question is is it Smow, Smoh, Smowg or Smohg? The Hobbit tricked me once, never again.
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>>282735976
I still say Smow. Fight me.
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This guy always made me curious.
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>>282735810
He really is intimidating until you realize that he kills his own adds and he's allergic to Pyromancies.
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>>282735937
>>282735976 I call him Smou with a long "o"
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>>282736082
tl;dr he was a dragon offshoot like the Hellkite Drake. Only he was a greedy nigga so he mutated into that.
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>>282736130
This is spooky as shit
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>>282736130
SPOILER THIS
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>>282734937

>Mixing Heide helm with insolent armour for a Crusader

Fuck, all the armour in this game is so beautiful.
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>>282735976

Smow
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>Imminent tears
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>>282736418
>tfw I learned that poison cloud goes through walls

And I never let Solaire die ever again
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>>282735810

>Walk up to Nito
>His slashes go over your head harmlessly

He was less threatening than the skeletons you face to get to him. Why were all the lord Vessel bosses such utter shit? They looked so damn cool.
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>>282736349
>Mixing Heide helm with insolent armour for a Crusader
Now I know what to do tomorrow. Thanks mate.
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>>282736418
You have to admit, whatever fucking spell he uses to float is pretty cool
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>>282736130
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The only base-game NPC worth remembering
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>>282736543
I could go on a big long rant about how the gods were falling out of power and whatnot but the reality is that they had good ideas but weren't thought through. Which is why Artorias on his own stands head and shoulders above all 3 lord soul bosses as a threat despite just being one dude with a sword.
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>>282736612
This was the most disappointing boss in all the games.

>All those weapons in the back
>Only uses a slow as fuck greatsword

So what's the deal with them? It's from the ones he kills?
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>>282736794
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>>282736612
>The Pursuer has all those weapons
>Only uses the sword to attack you
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>>282736903
If you get get impaled by his blue sword stab and live, sometimes he'll go hyper mode with dark magic and shit
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>the golden age of demon's souls pvp in shrine of storms is never coming back
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Okay I guess Vengarl was worth remembering too. He was a godsend in that fucking Frigid Outskirts run
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that the guys in world 5 are all wearing plague doctor masks with some herbs in them to help them breath or some shit.
i honestly thought they were just bird people.
also the demons taking form of the death rituals of the people of world 4.
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This always gets me
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>>282736903
>>282736982

I don't get your complaint. What would've been the point of him pulling out an axe or spear instead of a sword? What difference would that really make?
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The Spook Squad
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>>282737172

>There are people that believe DeS pvp was ever good
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>>282737460
A new moveset to mix it up in combat, keep you on your toes.
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>>282737460
He could had fight with different styles depending on the weapons he had at the moment, so you would need to adapt to them while fighting him.
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>>282736794

>ds2
>best lore
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>>282737605
I'm actually working my way through DaS2 now for the first time. Made it past the Skeleton Lords 2 days ago. Freaked out until I found out they were big skelingtons that turn into little skelingtons. Well I did legitimately get nervous when a bunch of skeleton wheels showed up. Is the Bastard Sword the training wheels weapon of this game? I feel like I really shouldn't be doing as well as I am.
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>>282737697

And what would an axe or spear be able to do that couldn't be done with a sword? He's still stabbing or slashing at you in melee.

>My god, he swung at me with an axe instead of a sword
>My mind is blown!
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>>282737739
The one thing that got on my nerves is that Vamos was so out of the way. So if you wanted to get Fire or Chaos weapons you had to go all the way around the world just to get to him.
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>>282737648
Full comic now por favor

i lost that shit
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Did you ever get that pure bladestone?
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>>282737803
Greatswords tend to be the best weapons in the game. I only used a Broadsword and a Drangleic Sword for my first playthrough
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>>282737648
you can say what you want but i actually enjoyed those 15 minute fights at base level against some ass with a fire halberd.
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>>282738012
I actually did. Took me a shitton of Soulsuck and a ton of levels from doing so but I finally got it and got my Sharp Uchigatana
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>>282738012
It took me four hours of grinding. I duplicated the Pure Bladestone and drop one whenever I invade someone. Talking about it, I never kill while invading, I just help them kill the enemy npc since they won't attack me.
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>>282736794

>Not p8 or cr8
>Not based Gavlan
>Not Vengarl
>Not Titchy Gren
>Not rhyming bell tower midgets
>Not Sweet Shalquior
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>>282737882
The point is why put the weapons on his design if he's never going to use them.
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>Bottom of Ash Lake
Spooky
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>>282722009
Didn't the Runic Shield/Sword scale with magic?
Fuck that shit

Armor is fucking sweet though
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>>282738405

>Forgetting Sutraidu

Feeble.
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>>282719358
whats the symbol?
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>>282738456

Aesthetics. My only gripe is that he doesn't pursue you through a level.
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>>282738545
speaking of ash lake.
>you'll never know where that skull came from.
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Raime will never not be my favorite knight.
>All those moveset variations
>That unique Dark/Fire Buff
>That angst against Velstadt
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>>282738929
>Walk into Raime's room with Velstat's helm
>Raime gets insta-mad
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So how am I looking for about 2 or so weeks playtime? I change out the Bastard Sword for the Broadsword as I feel.

http://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls2/1607
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>>282740043
If it's your first playthrough, don't worry about any of that shit. You can respec in Dark Souls 2 anyway.
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The idea that you can just go up to an ancient world devouring demon and say "let's be friends" makes me smile.

Allant > Vendric > Gwyn
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>>282737420
That's delightful
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>>282741742
Curious, why Vendrick above Gwyn?
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>>282722569
Why do people keep using "Furtive Pygmy" as his name? Furtive isn't a title, it's an adjective. He's a pygmy who's furtive, not THE furtive pygmy. I'm sure many pygmies are furtive, it's not hard to be furtive when you're tiny.
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>>282741938
I just liked him more.
He was a beef as fuck huge cunt. He can be a challenge as a mindless hollow, imagine what he was like while alive.

Gwyn was just a god of fire, not all that interesting really.
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>>282742038
Because other than the fact that he's "so easily forgotten", that's all the information the game gives about him. What're we going to call him, Bill?
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>>282742038
People use the Furtive Pygmy as his name because that's what the intro calls him rather than giving him a true name. I guess you can call him Manus but people are still split on whether Manus was the Furtive Pygmy or just a ridiculously powerful primeval human.
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>>282742352
The Pygmy.
Might as well call him The Easily Forgotten Pygmy.
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>>282742184
You can actually talk to him you know. Memory of the King was pretty cool
>Even after all the shit Nashandra did to his kingdom in the long run, Vendrick still calls her "my dear 'shandra"
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I wanna do a no level up run for DeS
What class do I start with?
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>>282742497
Vendrick pretty much accepted that the cycle is undefeatable and that he was a fool for trying. He really could've stopped a lot of the madness by just killing Nashandra but even knowing she was a child of Dark who didn't give a shit about him once he lost his power he still had love for her.

How the hell did the Ivory King tame Alsanna? Must be because Alanna isn't as hostile as Nashandra was.
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>>282742443
The pygmy split his soul to create humanity, Manus was the first human created from this soul, thus had a fuckton of humanity that he couldn't control. Could be that there were multiple primordial humans. Perhaps he went nutso in the past as well, so he was sealed away until Kaathe came along and tricked Oolacile into waking him up.
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>>282718901
Knights of Gwyn > *
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>>282742184
Flame God Flann was god of fire.
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>>282718145
It's implied that Boletaria's "prosperity" was only for a small portion of the elite and was just sheer power level stuff. The place was miserable, and it even had a slave class that didn't have proper clothes (dreglings).
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How was Seath born without scales? I didn't think the ancient dragons even reproduced, since they're immortal and all.
And how did he live so long if he wasn't immortal? Presumably his magic crystal is a relatively recent development.
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>>282742954
Were there more lord souls? Is Flann holder of the Soul of Heat? Who holds the Soul of Cold?
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>>282742980
Were dreglings dreglings before the fog?
I figured they were just weak demons. Only strong enough to take a form like that.
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>>282743129
There are only 4 known Lord Souls. Gwyn isn't the lord of fire, he is the lord of Sunlight. This seems to expand beyond the bounds of simple fire seeing as how he was able to invent the Sunlight Spear, a Lightning miracle.

But yes there are/ were many gods and they all lived in Anor Londo. It's just that when the First Flame began to die and the Age of Fire began to fade all the gods jumped ship out of Anor Londo with Gwyndolin being the only god to remain in the city. Flame God Flann married Gwynevere and they both ran off together. Where they went nobody knows.
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>The manipulation of Souls requires knowledge and study and no faith. Intelligence.
>The manipulation of Miracles require astute faith and hilariously, no knowledge. Faith
>To make usage of Dark/Hex, basically the essence of Humanity, it requires both Intelligence and Faith
I found this pretty interesting. You could be a scholar like Logan in the art of souls but wouldn't be able to conjure anything to heal a wound. On the other hand, you could heal and chuck spears of fucking sunlight but wouldn't know what to do with manipulating souls.

Knowing both gives you access to using Humanity/Dark
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>>282743412
The four known lord souls correspond to two of the listed disparities. Heat and cold are mentioned as a disparity born from the fire, but there's no lord souls representing them. Could be that the heat and cold souls were found after the war, or were, like the dark soul, kept hidden after being found.
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>>282743412
I should say most lived in Anor Londo. They all lived in Lordran whilst other giants and people lived in the surrounding cities. For example Gwyn's uncle, Allfather Lloyd, established the city of Thoroland, a city of clerics. And everyone there worshipped Gwyn and the other gods. They might have been a little fucked up though if Anastacia is any indication.
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>>282743412
>Start of the game: Gwyn, Lord of Sunlight
>Endgame: Gwyn, Lord of Cinder
Fun stuff. His OST is still probably the best while Aldia wasn't bad either
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>>282720494
Kind of correct but not exactly. The pygmy is the origin, so Manus descends from the soul[s] pygmy gave out.

Manus was a massive collection of those souls.
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The one that interests me the more is Aldia's story
too bad we don't know much about it
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Who would win?
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>>282743797
We don't know how or why Manus's madness caused such a catastrophe while none of the other people didn't. Whoever Manus was he was very very VERY powerful on a scale even the 4 Kings couldn't reach on their own. Which is why some people honestly believe Manus was the Furtive Pygmy. But FROM just refuses to give us a clear answer on the subject, they always just say "primeval human." But we have no possible way of knowing if Manus was A primeval human or THE primeval human
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>>282743602
And Pyromancy is able to be used by everyone. Witch of Izalith seemed to have symbolized life with her Lord Soul and that art of wielding fire seems to have passed down to all living things.
>>282744012
I'd bet on Allant
>>282743962
He's outside the cycle of life and death.
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>>282719334
Laurentius of the Great Swamp gets confused if you walk away.
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About to pick up DS2. Someone give me a quick, spoiler-free intro to the story?
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>>282744012
Probably Allant since Allant's power is tied to the Old One who never goes away. Gwyn's power is tied to the First Flame which is destined to die no matter what you do.
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>>282744012
Allant seems to be a lot saner than Gwyn.
Plus he has that soul sucker shit.
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>>282744012
Gwyn is basically a broken husk, Allant would curbstomp him.
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>>282744174
Ignore Four Old Ones that had the Lord Souls passed down to them. Story is all about the Undead Curse returning and you trying to find out why. You seek King Vendrick who "peered into the essence of the soul" so he prolly knows something
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>>282744012
Allant just needs to parry him.
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>>282724407
Gwyndolin was probably a hermaphrodite who was raised as a girl even though he wanted to be like his father and brother.
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>>282744429
Gwyndolin was raised as a girl because the moon is feminine. Doesn't really explain why Gwynevere wasn't raised as a boy, but whatever.
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>>282744616
She makes boy parts raise so it all balances out
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>>282744616
That chest ain't gonna be easy to explain
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>>282724987
It's probably because she's insane and considers you as someone from Boletaria or thinks that anyone going against her king, even people from different lands, is a traitor.
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>>282744174
King Vendrick was a mighty king whom everyone loved who fell in love with a foreign woman named Nashandra. Nashandra enthralled his heart and warned him of a looming threat across the sea, the Giants. Vendrick sailed across the sea, fought the giants, and stole something of critical importance all for his love Nashandra. But the Giants were infuriated at what Vendrick had done and sailed to Drangleic. Vendrick won the fight but it crippled Drangleic and the Undead Curse made matters worse. While trying to find a way to cure the Undead Curse, Vendrick saw discovered something that disturbed him so greatly that he abandoned his kingdom and his castle. He hid away what he stole from the giants and locked himself where no one could find him.

You are an Undead halfway through hollowing that just stumbled into the middle of all this shit. Perhaps if you can find King Vendrick he can give you some answers in how to stop the hollowing.

>You Died
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>>282725331
Here's some pro tips anon
>Fast weapon
>Shields are fucking useless
>Fast roll plus high poise
>Silver pendant
>Roll through all his attacks
>Don't summon Sif because he's shit at drawing aggro
Finally hav fun
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>>282744012

Allant soul steal rip in peace
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>>282744731
Well Gwyndolin gained a female form somehow, so Gwynever may well have morphed into a male if she was raised as one. They're gods, who knows how their forms work. Could be they take the form they view themselves as, their physical body being linked to self image and self esteem.
Gwyndolin is female because he was raised as such, and views himself as deformed or broken because he could not win his father's love, hence all the tentacle shit.
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>>282744769
The story itself is sort of lackluster but the DLC's and all the comparisons to Nashandra and Vendrick really add a layer.
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>>282725817
It's really important to learn Manus' moveset, more than any other boss. Just time your rolls properly and get 1, maybe 2 hits in every time you have a chance.
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>>282744936
Could you imagine the size of Gwynever's cock if she was male?
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>>282744769
That sounds cooler than DS1. Thanks mane
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>>282745059
This, this, this. Number one rule against Manus: don't get greedy. If there's ever a time when you're not 100% sure you can sneak in a hit without a rebuttle, just take the safe option and wait for the next attack. Manus is an offensive monster and he only needs one good opening to fuck you over.
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>>282745095
The true lugged spear.
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>>282725295

what was wrong with "dark sign"
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>>282735518
>because they were afraid that the player would kill him prior to reaching Anal Rodeo
Anon, you have to kill O&S before you can access the DLC
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>>282744979
The DLCs make DaS2 better than what it was. Personally I prefer the DaS1 story but I don't hate the DaS2 story either. Though I didn't really connect to the side stories in DaS2.
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>>282737420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-V7nJp9TP4
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>>282722806
I definitely qualify as a Cerebrotonic. Because of this, hooking up with girls is way too much fucking work and effort for what it's worth.

I'll have plenty of time and resources to do that shit when I'm done with school. Until then, it's back to the backlog with me.
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>>282746013
That was pretty fucking good.
I could easily see Polnareff and Avdol being done. Joseph with some Dark-buffed Notched Whips.

How would Emerald Splash work?
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>>282743725
Well, assuming they're based off the Holy See they are definitely fucked up.
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>>282738545
you fucking what
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So what was the Dragon God? Was it just another demon in the shape of a big monster, or was it an actual deity that was possessed by the power of souls?
And how did Maiden Astrea become a demon?
Old Monk was basically Allant of Latria, so his demon-ness makes sense. And Storm King was just a big demon monster, so that's fine. But I don't get Dragon God or Astrea.
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>>282723112

Thanks for dumping, anon.
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>>282743234
The large majority of the enemies in the Boletarian Palace are the soul-starved people of Boletaria. There's also the dregling merchant who basically serves as proof that dreglings are just humans.
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>>282735391
Fucking this. The lore and buildup to Ivory King was the best part of the game.

The fact that his throne was where it was because he considered himself the first line of defense, is badass as fuck.

He also has his waifu engraved on the face of his helmet.

>tfw the 4 knights who escaped the Chaos just hang out in solitary, waiting for someone to lead them back into the chaos to free their king and bretheren from their fate

the biggest feels, that dlc.

and that fucking final boss fight, holy shit
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>>282747961
are there glasses on that face?
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