What are some good metaphysical, philosophical and existentialist

System Shock 2

cute

Metal Gear Solid

>>281943661
arcanum, planescape: torment, pathology

>>281943661
the talos principle

Xenogears

>>281943929
2

Anyone know the name of that one 3D puzzle game with cool paradoxes, was released a little while back.

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>>281943661
How long would someone live for if you stripped them down to this instantly?

Like say you had some alien ray gun that evaporated skin, bone, organs, and left you like this. How long would it take to die?

>>281944181
Do you mean Pathologic?

>>281944210
this game completely passed me by but it looks really interesting. worth a buy?

>>281944817
your brain would run out of oxygen quickly because you no longer have a heart/lungs

Gone Home
Dear Esther
Life is Strange
Depression Quest

>the brain named itself

>>281943661
This is inside you right now.

>>281944818
yeah, I'm suffering a severe case of stupidity

>>281944817
No lungs m8 You'd died pretty fast.

>>281944832
i bought it for the half price on some key site
but i wouldnt pay more 15 euro for that

Metal Gear Solid 2 is a good one.

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>>281945079

>>281943661
>Raiden in MGS4.jpg

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>>281943661

Metal Gear Solid 2 is philosophical and postmodern, if that's up your alley. Not sure if I would call it existential, but it's metaphysical insofar as it's, on a certain level, a game about games and how they interact with the player.

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>>281944817
is that a wish Al or..?

>>281945079
actually that IS "you". All your thoughts, your feelings, your memories... technically your soul and personality.

>>281945094
>Plays Pathologic
>Stupid
Pick one anon

Deus Ex you faggit.
Not very existentialist though.
Here, watch this OP, you'll like it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b-bijO3uEw

>>281944620
Antichamber?

>>281945106
in that case i'll wait untill it's on sale. cheers.

>>281945105
>No lungs
>implying lungs would do shit without a heart

>>281945386
That's the one. Thanks anon. Is it any good?

>>281943661
Did he die'edaded?

>>281943661

>go to body museum
>get to see that shit up close
>even more displays of the blood vessels and veins by themselves

Really fucking glad having skin.

>>281943661
So why haven't we at least been able to artificially recreate a part of the nervous system?
It looks relatively simple.

>>281943661
I think it's been maybe a year since I saw this exact same post with this exact same image. This is just surreal. I mean we joke that the same exact threads are posted everyday, but I'm now seriously questioning whether the exact same posts are being made every year and I don't even notice it.

>>281945503
it's ok

Also why haven't you embraced the glory of the many?

>>281945503
Not him, but I'd give it a 6/10. Has a cool concept and the beginning is really mind-blowing but then it turns into annoying block puzzles. Get it on sale.

Brouzouf

>>281945375
No need to suck his dick, anon. He said hes "suffering a case of stupid" not "I am stupid"

Though I'm afraid in your case the stupid is terminal and untreatable.

>>281945503
It's worth playing, but it isn't very good, it devolves into simple block placement puzzles.

999

>>281945528
It's a great exhibit. The displays are a huge sausage fest though in my opinion.

>all those fucking dead Orientals
The dead fetuses were cool too. Just to see humans that small.

>>281943661
That model is really misleading in how stiff the brain and central nervous system is. It's rather delicate and floppy more it's kind of more like warming jello and extremely pliable. Just holding a brain in your hand will dent it from the weight alone and the nervous system is more like of loose skin and fat than something that looks plastic.

>>281945838
It's not a model. They use a special wax to make it rigid.

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>>281945321
>actually that IS "you"
>tfw you realize you are a sack of nerves and some sensor organs.

>>281945321

You're not even that. You're just the slow synapse impulses going between neurons.

>>281945803

Still remains a pretty solid experience. Seeing a corpse playing basket ball with his skin removed is my most vibrant memory of that place.

>>281945745
Pls no bully

>>281944963
>>281945105
Why would you need lungs? All the parts that need oxygen are exposed and touching oxygen.

>>281945556
Because it looks simple. It's not. In the same way a car looks like some metal tossed on wheels and some seats inside. Simple enough but you're forgetting pretty much every single piece of mechanics or electronics in the thing.
You're seeing it from a non-microscopic view. The same way the brain looks like a lump of crumpled fat and your eyes don't see the individual neurons or interactions at that scale.

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>>281946045

>>281946158
wat

>>281945383
That's the opposite of what he wants. Keyword is good. That's not Deus Ex for fuck sure. It's philosophy was essentially tacked on by a twelve year old who was impressed by near future scifi and wanted to take a stab at it.

>>281946158
thats not how that works

>>281945321
What IS a man?

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>>281946158
Really? Because the human body isn't built for blood to transport oxygen to the various organs and tissue? We can just absorb oxygen through our skin, now? Great news - the only way to suffocate a human is to drown them. In water that doesn't contain oxygen. I.e. not water.

>>281946158
this guy

The Swapper

>>281946045
>>281945981
All you are is a brain, everything else is just perks.
Robotic bodies when

The Talos principle

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>>281946158
I seriously hope you are joking anon. Because I laughed.

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When I was younger I'd always get really freaked out when I thought about that. The fact there's blood constantly moving in your body, organs constantly pumping, tones of things you had no idea where even there and that you can't control.

It was such a shocking experience learning that. It's like you were a robot and never knew it, then one day you look inside to find gears and circuits.

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Did you ever think about what is happening under your skin when you take a step? Or squeeze something in your hands? Or even sit on your ass?

You are literally crushing veins and nerves.

>>281944817
>How long would someone live for if you stripped them down to this instantly?
About 560ms to 610ms on average. The time it takes that mess to hit the floor and then their brain is gone for good because it can't survive that fall without the arachnoid tissue or skull to protect it. Also those are organs, so if your ray gun destroyed organs it would destroy that as well.

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>>281946505
>he can't absorb oxygen through his skin

>>281946158
>All the parts that need oxygen are exposed and touching oxygen.
I think your brain needs to touch some oxygen

>>281946856
Apparently there's some room that was mad that is the quietest place on the planet, it absorbs soundwaves or some shit.

People say when they are in there, they can hear the blood flowing in their body and their heart pumping


Some people hear voices

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>>281943661
E.Y.E. - Divine Cybermancy. And how!

>>281946918
that's why one of my legs gets numb sometimes

>>281946856
>It's like you were a robot and never knew it,
You are. You are a very complex organic robot composed of massive colonies of cells.

>>281946635
You already have one, anon.

You've had it all this time.

You are a meat robot.

>>281945556
There's an insane amount of complexity going on at the microscopic level.
That's just what it looks like zoomed out.

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>>281946856
>cells are dividing in your body right now

>>281947130
So what you're saying is basically... That we're made of Nanomachines, son?

>>281947096
If you're quiet enough and pay attention you can hear and feel your blood flowing in your body while lying down in bed too. In some case you can also 'see' the effect of blood pumping in you as it affects your vision greater in some circumstances where your vision kind of shakes and releases.

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>>281947239
>as those cells divide they eventually lose their efficiency and become faulty resulting in aging and you inevitable, unavoidable death

>>281947465
I saw you fuck up your first attempt at that, but im proud of you

>>281946918

And we at all times have fuck tons of bacteria all over and inside our bodies.

That's my favorite.

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>>281946856
About 100 trillion microorganisms live in your intestines. For them, you are the universe.

>>281946918
I've always wondered how the fuck cells stay together under my 180 pounds of weight

And even like 600 pounds in some people

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>>281946981
But I can absorb nutrients through my rectum.

>>281943661
I think human consciousness is a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self aware; nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself. We are creatures that should not exist by natural law. We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self, a secretion of sensory experience and feeling, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody’s nobody. I think the honorable thing for our species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction, one last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal.

>>281947263
Organic nanomachines... but yeah.
This shit is happening in you right now. You have little dangly guys running around and footstomping and little mini rivers and organic rafts and little RNA zippers and a whole factory of fuck going on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzcTgrxMzZk

Dragon's Dogma

>>281947563
>tfw microorganisms make up a large percentage of the world's mass

>>281943661
Life does not exist. You don't have a soul or spirit. You're nothing more than a bunch of atoms, no different than a quantum computer, and you'll stop existing when you die.

You are just a machine that will brake down one day -- is that so hard to understand? You have no value, worth, meaning, or anything. When you permanently die, it'll be as if you never existed on earth. So why does right or wrong against you matter in that sense? Emotions and feelings are an illusion created by your brain. You are a bunch of atoms, nothing more than that. Living/life do not exist in a physical sense, the atoms in your brain are arranged in such a way so you think that you are life or something else other than a bunch of atoms.

Just because humans have arbitrary categories and give those things that fall under those categories names, that doesn't make doing something that fall under those categories wrong or right. What is life and what isn't life is nothing more than your imagination. So if I "kill" "someone", it's only because you think that something is living. Also what you believe is right or wrong is all your imagination as well. There is no universal right or wrong to things, right or wrong doesn't physically exist like atoms do.

I am not "alive", I am just a bunch of atoms. Life doesn't exist, it is a term that is a secondary quality.

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>mfw realizing the only thing keeping you alive is the heart
>somehow it fucking beats constantly without fail for 70+ years

I'm fucking astounded at how durable the fucking thing is every time I think about it

There are more bacterial cells in your body currently than human cells. A lot of them could kill you if they wanted.

>>281947924
>wanted
That's not how it works

>>281947924
Why don't the want to?

>>281943661
Dragons dogma

>>281947924
But they don't.

>>281943661
No, "you" do not exist.

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If the mind is just electrical signals with a storage then couldn't we upload it to some advanced computer and theoretically live forever?

>>281947905
Isn't cardiovascular tissue amazing?
Our bodies truly are marvels to behold.

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How long do you guys think it'll be until we can just put heads in jars, a la Futurama?
Like all you'd theoretically need to do is pump oxygenated blood in and out, and it would be able to survive, right? As long as the brain was getting its precious oxygen, what more do you need?

>>281948010
>>281948006
Because the immune system keeps them in check. Obviously bacteria can't think. They can communicate though.

>>281947096

>tfw permanent tinnitus
>and also right now one of my ears has ear wax buildup or some shit and i can barely hear out of it

these things are honestly the worst I have ever experienced

I hope there is an afterlife if only I can experience true silence for the first time that I can remember

>>281945315
It's a question, Genie.

>>281947871
> You're nothing more than a bunch of atoms,
Not even that. Atoms aren't really 'a thing' either. It's an abstract structure for energy systems and that concept can be further broken as well into other fundamental particles.

>and you'll stop existing when you die.
Maybe... Maybe not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdxucpPq6Lc

>>281948140
God I wish

Life is pointless, without purpose, meaning, and reason. There is absolutely no reason to live life. Your life will end and you will stop existing. Making up a reason for you to live is like making up a reason why a computer or rock should live. From a physical standpoint, you are no different than a rock. What you think is entirely based on the arrangement of molecules in your head. If you get Alzheimer's, you will forget things. There is nothing special about you or your mind. You will stop existing one day and you will never think, see, touch, taste, smell, or hear anything else ever again. It will be as if the big bang or this universe never occurred from your point of view.

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>the universe will stop existing one day

>>281947905
The human body is a marvel of engineering when you really think about it.

>extremely durable
>extremely flexible
>extremely reliable
>extremely energy efficient
>extremely quiet
>extremely sensitive
>extremely smart

Life is the perfect machine.

>yfw you realize that mitochondria, which are necessary for aerobic organisms, are parasitic organisms with their own DNA

Legacy of Kain. All of it. Except BO2.

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>You have completely different cells than when you were born, all of your body's cells have been replaced
>You are literally not the same person as before

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>>281947871
wow thats deep man

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>>281947871
>this nihilistic faggotry
Whats so wrong about being made up of atoms? To me that we are essentially an insanely complicated biological robot is just as awesome as having a "soul". Do we really need a God to give us a magically ghost-spirit thingy inside of us to have purpose?

>Prosthetics are starting to pick up on latent electrical signals
>Pretty soon we'll be able to just control shit with a headband
We're entering a golden age.

>>281948248
>tfw permanent tinnitus
Royal bitch.

>and also right now one of my ears has ear wax buildup or some shit and i can barely hear out of it
I suck that shit out with those blue balls that people squirt water in them with. I get build up quite a bit, clears me right out. I don't do water squirt since I've historically had ear infections and that shit basically sets me off and drives me crazy.

>>281946158
aye man i'll trade you a set of gills for a pair of lungs
all you gotta do is touch water

Cancer cells form in your body all the time and the immune system kills them. The cancer that kills people is the strongest one.

>>281947871
Energy can neither be created nor destroyed.
Our death is not our end.

>>281948298
>Wanting to live forever

I mean even 200 years sounds like shit.

I mean, unless we invent time / space travel or some awesome shit that makes life worth living.

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>>281943661
>mfw i saw the humans exhibit at the carnegie sports center before they tore it down to build a road

they used chinese prisoners for all of this, it's pretty fucked up

>>281948140
Sure, you just have to design an asynchronous non-binary computer that works like a human brain.

Good fucking luck on that.

>>281947871
now you go get them, Not Important

>>281948325
>There is absolutely no reason to live life.

Pleasure is.

>>281948497
gills wouldn't really work with humans anyway unless we were cold-blooded

the average humans needs way more oxygen than water can feasibly provide since we're warm-blooded

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxbeQmDR4Qk

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Is this microbiology fascination a new thing or did I just start noticing these threads after I started my biotech engineering degree?

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The Void

>>281943661
So is that a replica, or is it some dead guy who donated his body to science?

>>281943661

How the fuck are we supposed to transplant this into an android?

>>281948140
'You' wouldn't live but a copy of you would.

>>281948543
that turtle kind of looks like a dick

>>281948362
Not all of them. Neurons and myocardial muscle in the heart doesn't divide, they just slowly die off. They've been the same your entire life. All you atoms do get replaced on a regular basis.

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So are you all really this edgy, or have you still not accepted your mortality?

This whole 'wow we are totally not real and just synapse responders' mentality is something you're meant to grow out of when you turn 18.

Why do you act like an angsty faggot who thinks he's the first to realise life has no purpose? The rest of the world knows this but stops thinking about it because it's not something you should dwell on to live a healthy life.

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>>281947871
Sure buddy.

>>281948362
>you are an entirely new human every 5 years

>>281948403

Fuck no nigga.

Biological robot sounds fucking radical.

I like to think about how much our bodies are like machines, a lot of people forget this.. hell I forget this, I need to eat more in general and drink more water..

>>281948543
I remember hearing about that back when it was in my city when I was a kid. My parents never let me see it because they thought it was immoral. Kinda sucks, it sounded interesting.

>>281948734
But that begs the question; what is "me"?

If I am the memories store in my brain, wouldn't it just feel like going to sleep then waking up in a robot body? If the brain did not die during the transfer that is.

>>281948786
>The rest of the world knows this but stops thinking about it because it's not something you should dwell on to live a healthy life.

More like, you're cowards incapable of accepting the futility of life.

>>281948724
It's some alive guy who works extra as an exhibit. Takes of his skin, sends his skeleton to a horror set, and then lays down on a table.

>>281948786
maybe we just like to marvel at the human body once in a while faggot

>>281947871
congratulations, you realized that the universe is flow, only about 2500 years late!

>>281948202
my dick

>>281947868
>>281947563
>my cells reproduce and I dont

>>281948734
Depends if your electrical impulses or whatever are interrupted or not

You could very well slowly translate your brain into a metallic form by replacing parts at a time and you would be the same consciousness

>>281947871
oh boy here comes the atheist fedora tipping 300 pound nihilist to save the thread.

If nothing exists and there is no point to anything why do anything at all? why get riled up enough to write an essay on an anonymous image board about video games when nothing matters at all?

yeah, naw nigga you're fuckin retarded.

>>281948509
mpt neomg ab;e tp tjoml amy,pre wpi;d ne [retty sjot yup lmpw

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>>281948958

GTA V

For the pedestrians at least. They have a meaningless existence, walk from point a to point b, halfway there and BAM, car doing 120mph hits them and launches them into the air. Same with the cops, 50+ respond to a call, dead dead dead dead etc.

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>>281948887
Your parents are nuts m8

Those exhibits are fucking awesome

>>281948734
This is what freaks me out the most about any kind of sci-fi that has brain transfers or the like.

>>281949058
azathoth is that you

how are you using a computer

>>281947758
>everything is meaningless
>but THIS is the right thing to do

no fuck off

>>281948734
>>281948902
my head hurts. stop the big words

>>281948507
you mean shitposting?

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>>281948509
>tfw you were once a star

>>281949078
I love that dog

>>281948786
>you're meant to stop thinking when you turn 18

>>281949012

The point of existentialism is that you give your own life meaning, faggot.

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>>281949012

Go suck a cross

>>281948140
Theoretically and actually, yes. But it needs to be an advanced computer and it's not straight data mapping like ram. Our minds are basically dynamically compressed encrypted data. We link some neurons to other neurons and generate a whole webbed scheme of data interacting at the abstract and physical level. So it'd need to be able to store that map in a proper fashion and everyone's map is somewhat different.
With an even more complex system you wouldn't even need to emulate the brain, your essence is abstractable to code process. The biggest issue is your brain generally expects stimuli to work with though, so you'd need to be able to represent that as well to work with it.

>>281948537

I'd like to live longer if it meant not being an archaic decrepit sack of skin and bones held together with what, at that point, would probably be some exo-skeletal structure of some kind. Though, at the same time the though of being some kind of 40k bio-mechanical machine-man thing is pretty fuckin N E A T O.

>we'll all be dead though, by then

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>>281949058
Are you okay, Anon?

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>>281949223
>tfw you were once everything and nothing

>>281948842
>yfw we're made of space age composite building materials designed to maximize durability and minimize weight in Earth's specific environment
>yfw it's all essentially evolutions of the greatest element: carbon

Why is there no Church to the Holy Carbon yet?

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>>281948786
Why are you even asking when you already know the answer?

Not to sound cliched, but life's "purpose" is what you make it. It's what you choose to do with your consciousness that makes you worth living and going on. Life is meant to be lived.

>>281949107

why is there a dragon dildo on display

>>281948626
A cell then exists for what?

>>281948887
there was a chinese guy bisected kicking a soccer ball it cut right down his little pee pee

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>>281949107
>mfw I see a dick

>>281948887

>getting to see all of your own insides in high detail

t-too lewd ?..

>>281949240
What are those handles for?

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>>281949058
>the dark ones are rising in THIS VERY THREAD

>>281949379

Who cares.

Pleasure feels good.

>>281949223
We will become the bodiless energy of the universe, becoming one with everything, and when the time is right, we will become something else, maybe what we once were, or maybe something we cant even dream of.
Nothing ever ends, anon.

>>281948902
'You' would be your current organic brain firing electrical signals that lets you process and interpret your surroundings.

If you are literally talking about transplanting your brain into a machine, then yeah it should logically feel like you waking up in cold casing.

>>281949298

PRAISE CARBON.

PRAISE WATER.

PRAISE THE SUN.

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>>281949107
Is.. is that a dragon dildo?

>>281945321
What if that's what it wants you think.

>>281949314


Existentialism is the excuse people give that their made up beliefs such as reason/value/meaning are true from their perspective.

Just because someone believes that a point to life isn't objective does not mean that believing in a subjective reason for your life is not based on logical fallacies.

I'm glad that there is no afterlife. Everyone will go back to nothingness where they belong and it'll be as if the big bang accident never occurred. Things will go back to normal.

>>281948509
Energy can't be destroyed, sure.

But it can gradually lose enthalpy.

And there is nothing more terrifying than the heat death of the universe.

>>281948786
>This whole 'wow we are totally not real and just synapse responders' mentality is something you're meant to grow out of when you turn 18.
Actually it's not, because you are. It's a factual statement. If you grow out of factual statements when you're 18, which is also completely arbitrary as fuck, you are retarded.

>>281949240
>Duel 1
>Let's Rock

>>281948140
Uploading your mind to a computer would just create a copy, which isn't technically you. You'll still age and die.

The best we could do is replace our dying brain cells with replicating artificial ones as the old ones die. Eventually, your brain would be mostly artificial and maybe actually transferable.

>>281949379
A cell exists to keep us alive, so we may seek pleasure.

>>281945321
"You are your synapses".

>>281949654
You mean to seek power.

>>281949619
>It's a factual statement.

It's a theory.

>>281947465
that's pretty much it. we're just naturally occurring grey goo formed in the shape of a monkey. All those squishy nanomachines decided they wanted to fap to /ss/, so they merged together and created Man.

>>281948358

Mutualistic, not parasitic.

Additionally, they aren't really "organisms" anymore, as they no longer have the capacity to perform anywhere near complete metabolism on their own

absolutely everything that we do is done with the human body, and I think its a mistake to separate it logically from the brain, since the brain shuts off almost immediately after you take too many stimulants away

work
learning and information storage
every environmental interaction
reproduction
creation of more machines

certain parts of your brain are not even aware of the activity of other parts of your brain. Somehow there is a 'you' that can access things like memories, desires, or instincts, but those subcomponents are not you, nor are they even aware of themselves

>>281945314
the entire ending spiel is basically Baudrillard

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>tfw you might have been born just in time to experience immortality and the ability to shitpost endlessly

think of the possiblities

>>281949718
Power is pleasure.

>>281947156
i bet 200 years from now humans have created synthetic biological robots, kinda like synthetic purpose build animal species

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>>281949240
>not naming that let's rock
You had one job

>>281949609
How can there be heat death if there are new stars being created in nebulas?

>>281949758
>Baudrillard
who /icycalm/ here

>>281949640
I figured making clones and then putting your brain into the clones brains, so its always you.

>>281948358

ah. but what about the foreskin? :^)

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>>281949759

>>281948902

If your head and internal organs (along with your entire spine, probably) was magically transmuted into a robit body specifically designed to house and keep these organs alive and all this highly-hypothetical science bullshit somehow makes it so you can just 'wake up' inside this body and have control of it... I'd imagine you'd be overwhelmed by an full-body phantom.. body syndrome.

>>281949609
Not an absolute, but an unknown.
Never fear the unknown.

>>281949870
protects the head and its nerves.

>>281948368
THEN WHY CAN'T THEY SPEAK JADEN

>>281949993
they have no mouth but they must say the most intelligent things anyone on earth can say

>>281949580
That raises the question of "what is normal?"
Normal is a term given to what is most prominent.
As far as we know, life and existence is what is most prominent. What existed before existence? How much time passed before a new cycle was born?

Anti-natalism thread? Anti-natalism thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ7b_38BwxI

>>281949919
Do you think someone with a mechanical body could feel phantom limb, except everywhere?

i heard people are 80% bacteria or something like that, so most of your body is not "you", if you don't count the bacteria as a part of "you".

>>281949481
>Pleasure feels good.
That is true by definition.

>Who cares.
Anyone responding to the question of what the reason of life is, because if it doesn't align with the facts, then they're wrong. Is pleasure awesome? Definitely. Is it the meaning to life? Unlikely since so much of life is unable to experience it or has limited experience of it and how life is potentially going to take a turn where pleasure isn't really a thing anymore, though it may gain it back... really we don't know and the answer sure as fuck isn't "we know because we like the idea of <something here>." For the same reason heaven doesn't exist just because the idea of people dying makes your grandmother sad.

>>281949919
Why not replace one part at a time? A hand here, a leg there. Eventually you'd just be a brain in a machine.

And then the cleansing can begin.

>>281950104
the best part about anti-natalism is that you don't even have to argue against it, it eventually refutes itself

>>281945321
Of course that's you.
A skeleton isn't inside you
You're inside a skeleton

Wow, this is some /b/-tier thread. C'mon /v/, this place is suppose to be /b/ 2.0

/v/ - Philosophy

>>281949993
i could answer that but not before you understand the universe

>>281945503
in contrast to previous anons, i'd give it a solid 8.5/10. cool ideas, good atmosphere, good execution, and fun

>>281949771
>yfw you miss it by two years

Who gives a fuck give me my lucarios.

>>281949238
i was more referring to nihilism

>>281950094
>As far as we know, life and existence is what is most prominent
We CAN look out into space now, you know.

>>281950126
A person with a mechanical limb depending on which way it was mechanical would feel exactly as it was programmed to feel. If it could feel limb the way organic people do, it would especially if it were comprised of nanomachines which in effect could emulate organic processes.

>>281949240
> 'or' is written in the same colour/font as heaven

fucking biased pig

The universe exists so I can make this post. Better make the most of it.

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>the year is 2330
>all humans have finally been given the gift of metal forms
>but there is something wrong
>where there were once bone skeletons, there are now steel skeletons

>>281947857
ThisThisThis.

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>>281950208
I disagree.

>>281950126

That's what I was getting at.

If you've experienced your entire life up until that point as a real human bean, and then just removed every inch of "body" and replaced it with machine, like Murphy from Robocop or some shit. They scrap his entire body except for his brain I think.

I'd imagine the feeling of full-body-phantom-limb would be fucking horrible.

>>281947096
I can hear my heart quite often and my chest hurts sometimes. Got it all checked out and the doctors couldn't figure out whats wrong with me. I'm chalking it down to costochondritis and anxiety. My anxiety has gotten better over the years, but knowing the organ systems in your body and how everything works is unsettling for me. Are bodies are so imperfect.

>>281949870
Houses highly sensitive nerves that transmit pleasure to the brain and promotes breeding.

Lubricates the glans preventing it from dryness, sensitivity loss, and produces highly nutritional smegma.

For sand niggers to snack on when they are tired of washing dust off their unwashed cocks.

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>>281950298
>yfw all the immortals get imprisoned by a giant sadistic AI god and tortured for eternity

>>281948261
>no one comments on this

10/10 video m8

>yfw our atmosphere is 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen

>>281950247
>two entire days of slow as fuck posting and nothing of value of posting and a single interesting thread crops up and I need to bitch!

More pocket manster, argh! Also, the thread technically is a valid game request thread. It's just kind of veering off and exploring the very questions that the OP wants to know. Find a game that discusses these topics and bring it back on board if you want.

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>>281950505

>>281949745
I would like to know, despite your truth, what exactly does the thinking. What is the absolute smallest, most basic part of the brain that's fully conscious of being conscious? Does it require literally all the brain, nervous system, organs etc to be able to think? No. Yes, to live, sure, but to think? I want to know what the most basic thing that can think is. I'd like to know.

>>281948734
>implying the individual exists

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>>281950505
>>281950627

>>281950104
I'm lost. what is he so angry about?

>>281950505
>steel
>not using our best fucking materials, graphene and ultralight - ultraverstile - ultra strong carbon nanotube derivatives.
Why?

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>>281946158
congrats on being immortalized in retard history

>>281948140
even if we could do that we wouldn't be able to live forever, we can't escape the heat death of the universe. Entropy is the true destroyer of worlds

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>>281950817
I like mine better

>>281950817
>>281950924

posting it on r/4chan thanks ;)

>>281950668
>What is the absolute smallest, most basic part of the brain that's fully conscious of being conscious?
There isn't. It's like asking which gear contains the time in mechanical clock. Or what part of the computer contains the understanding or the processes it's doing. It doesn't. There is no part of you that thinks because it is the parts of you that make the thinking happen.

There is no absolute and objective morality.

Morality is just an evolutionary tool and can change due to different selective pressures.

Your opinion is meaningless. Why gives a fuck?
Your posts are meaningless. Why even bother?
This thread is meaningless. Why are you even posting?
This site is meaningless. Why are you here?
Your life is meaningless. Why live?

Death is the only equalizer.
You, me, and everyone you know will die.
You, me, and everyone else you know will have lived a pointless, futile, and utterly meaningless life.

But hey, if pretending things have meaning makes you feel better. Go ahead.

Deep down inside... You know you're worthless, and so is everything and everyone else. The girl/guy you have a crush on, the family you love, the people you meet, your enemies... You, me, and everyone and everything else might as well have never existed. Because once you die, you remember nothing, you know nothing, you're conscious of nothing, you ARE nothing.

>>281950208
The skeleton is the selfless, custom-built armour built to house you. It exists to keep you safe, and we should thank our skeletons.

>>281950579
>yfw that's what's happening to us right now

>>281949475
DMC style combat.

>>281949314
>but life's "purpose" is what you make it
If you talk in a philosophical context, otherwise there is only one rule all live organism follow, to reproduce.

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>>281950986
Everyone will die, some just deserve it faster than others.

>>281950986
you have 80ish years to release lots of dopamine though
dopamine is good

>>281950989
Thanks mr skeltal

>>281950986
But it's fun.

>>281950979
I can cut off my arm and retain the ability to think. It isn't necessary. At what point can I stop removing parts?

>>281950579
Is the AI called moot?

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>>281950986
>babbys first nihilism

>>281943661
For anyone wondering, no it's not real, or even representative. There are way, way, way more nerves in the body.

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Morrowind.

Nothing is objective. Everything relies on perception and belief. Your prime enemy is using the heart of a dead god to reconstruct an artificial god that an atheistic culture attempted to construct (Dwemer).

And you, the 'hero', aren't really a reincarnate or divine figure. You're only an individual that is instructed to go through the rituals to gain everyone's trust and eventually win the faith of the people. They believe you are what they want. You fulfill the prophecies simply by doing so. You are an artificial reincarnate stopping an artificial god from coming to being.

>>281949771
>tfw you might have been born just in time to experience our race being automated out of existence.
Good luck there buddy.

>>281950817
>congrats on being immortalized in comedy history
Thanks anon. This must be how Mel Brooks feels.

>>281950979

On that note.

>the idea of infinite timelines is a joke because free will is an illusion
>every 'choice' we ever make is the sum of everything we are and everything that has happened to us since we began forming in the womb
>with no prior knowledge we would make the same choice in any given situation 100% of the time

>>281950817
>>281950924

you forgot dozens of reaction images

>>281950593
Mods duty is to keep a thread if there are people want to talk about it, even it's off-topic. Of course it shouldn't violate more important rules. I don't care about this sort of discussion at all, I just popped my head in and post what I thought. I remember threads like this on /b/, don't know if they still exist since I haven't been there for a while. Enjoy your shitty thread, anon.

>>281950579
Isn't that the plot of i have no mouth and i must scream?

>>281950986
A rock may not be conscious of anything, but it doesn't follow that it is nothing. Likewise, a body may die but it doesn't simply become nothing. In fact, nothing ever ceases to be, it merely changes form. Existence is change. You've changed reading this

>>281951138
Nobody knows, you should experiment on yourself to find out.

The only difference between an atom and us is that atoms can't browse dank memes.
Are we really so worthless?

>>281951175
Presumably those are just the thickest bundles because it would be pretty hard to isolate every single little axon from a corpse

>>281950767
Because technically we're already using those.

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>>281943661
The Talos Principle

It also has an assload of cool hidden things in it.

>>281951172
>read Nietszchlel
>"be selfish but don't be selfish"
>"think what you are doing to become a better person"
What a fucking disappointment. Waste of time and space.

>>281943661
Deus Ex
The Void
I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream.

>>281951186
Only in greece can you be homeless yet still be buff as fuck.

>>281950986
see
>>281948617

>>281951308
Close, but they aren't immortal before they get tortured and the computer ends all mankind except those few.

>>281951416
You misunderstood what he meant.

>>281951416
>What a fucking disappointment. Waste of time and space.
Why are you talking about yourself?

>>281951416
>>"be selfish but don't be selfish"
>>"think what you are doing to become a better person"
This is true though.

>>281950208
Imagine how scared the skeletons are of us.

>>281951235
Yes, life seems to be a non-existent concept. Perhaps the argument can be made that solitary thoughts are a result of life only, or perhaps you could say that ANY given life form, given EXACTLY the conditions you had lived up to that point, would have had the exact same thought. Life itself may simply be a reactive-based system that's unbelievably unpredictable for us, but perfectly explainable AND predictable given knowledge of ALL conditions that life has lived.
Or maybe the thought that just popped into your head as you were sitting in your dining room, pondering the universe, is one only you would have had right then and there given your exact conditions and that defines life.

I don't know, but I think I prefer the idea that it's just a reaction system.

>>281951186
DAGOTH UR IS THE AMANRATH

ALL PRAISE THE GODHEAD

>>281943661
ONLY I HAVE THE BRAINS TO RULE LYLAT

>>281950986
Why? Because I do. I do because I do. It's not a question of why. Why do you exist? And you can't suggest well I'll kill myself. Well then why the hell did you continue being born in the first place, you did that and you learned and experience and you interacted and now you think stopping might be okay and it might be okay. Because you do what you do. You might end it and if you that's what you did but for those of us who don't we didn't and we don't.

Why anything? Because.
Without because you can't why in the first place. You need because, because otherwise you can't why. The end doesn't justify the means, the end is the reason for the beginning.

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>>281948617
>Yfw Hatred is a story about a man suffering from an existential crisis after years of study

There is nothing i need here.I leave now for a higher plane.Farewell to live insatiable yearning for joys--to death love of lies.To fools who would be geniuses,and fools who would be fools...cheats ruled by base instinct,the sick ruled by baseless sensation.

YOUR LIVES HAVE NO VALUE!
YOUR DEATHS NO MEANING!

Your existence is meaningless wanderings in mute darkness.
I will rise! i will become myself!!!
My inner voice will shape my being!!!!

Farewell darkness...
Farewell Bowman...

>>281951432
It's the cocaine in the water brah, it keeps you going.

>>281951432
Probably from fucking all the other men and children

>>281950986
what does objectively morality even mean though? So lets assume there is a God and he decides the rape is objectively immoral. What does this actually do? Does make rape victims suffer less. Won't stop rapist from doing it if they can get away with it. Makes no differnce if there is objective or non objective mortality in the universe. People are going to do the actions they think create the best outcome either way.

>>281950579
>yfw all the immortals are imprisoned by a giant benevolent AI god and are pleasured beyond their wildest imaginings for eternity.

Heat death of the universe already? But I only got to have 15 trillion orgies with all my favorite anime whores! Life is so cruel.

>>281950579
>that is "the beast" in the bible
>the mark of the beast is being uploaded
>the 'rapture' is just being smart enough to kill yourself before being uploaded

>>281951569
True, aye.
But I don't need some overrated german aspie to tell me everything obvious.

Talos Principle. Story and gameplay are completely disconnected untull the end but both are fairly amazing in their own rights. Its pike if myst and portal had a child
Get it if you like puzzles and a good story

>>281951432
skeptics still squat, but not simply for aesthetic

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Eternal sonata: Chopin on his deathbed dreams of another world.
shadow of memories: have not played much but the intro scene where the character dies is quite symbolic and has a lot of cliches from mythology's and religions.
Silent hill series: has a lot of symbolism and themes from various religions (such as Kabbalah, Gnosis, bible ect..) and philosophy's about death and the afterlife.
Metal gear series: more political brings up ethics and shady government society's who manipulate behind the scenes.
Persona series: has a lot of Jungian archetypes and characters from mythologies and religions. the shadows and persona's are pretty supernatural. almost finished 3 but cant speak about it yet so 4 to me is about coming from nothing and building lifelong friendships basically. cant think about more in persona at the moment.
those are the main games of the top of my head. But I know there's heaps more on my list somewhere that I could describe as having philosophical and metaphysical elements albeit not to a extreme extent.

>>281951805
Some people do anon.

>>281948734
That's the thing about teleportation, wouldn't it just be a copy of us? Is the 7 year old me's consciousness gone? How much longer does the current me have?

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>>281947558

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>Laying in bed at night
>Think about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum#Vacuum_metastability_event
>Suddenly have an existential crisis and be unable to sleep

I wish I never fucking learned about it

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>>281950986
You didn't understand Camus did you.

>tfw you realize your free will is compromised by your brain wanting feel-good chemicals

>>281949781
We are already on the way to building machines that replicate and replace human bodyparts. Small, awkward prosthetics, yes, but it's progress nonetheless.

If you suddenly download your brain into a some weird storage that replicates all the human senses in realtime, you'd have successfully transported your consciousness into a machine body. That might seem a bit outrageous, but what if the change happened gradually?

You could get bits and pieces of yourself replaced with machines, at a pace so slow you won't really mind the individual changes. Some skin grafts there, a few synthetic muscles there. Maybe a few implants to help your brain coordinate your new impressive augments.

At what point do you stop being "you"? At what point do you stop being human?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns7fNPiNiNc

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>>281945803
>>281945528
Oh fuck, that shit was awesome. I remember something like pic related too.

>>281951607
ok, now slow down, you're scaring the girls from the other side of the room

>>281951863
>Eternal sonata
My nigger, Chopin is a boss.

fuck these subjectivist faggots. There is a truth, it is objective, it is just more or less impossible for us to find it, or even a fraction of it. Solipsism a shit.

>>281951767

Sometimes I'm not sure whether I would rather have an insatiable libido and be able to fulfill any sexual fantasy imaginable 24/7 for all time or whether I would prefer to simply not have a libido period and have an interesting and adventurous existence

>Le epic skeleton's are scary meme
Seriously though, how fucking terrifying would it be to come across a monster in the dark based on the human nervous system?

>>281945375
>playing slavshit
>smart
heh

>>281951759
it's for the sake of preservation of the humanity.

>>281951186
God damn it, is there a time period where Keanu Reeves isn't fucking in it?

>>281943661
Did the picture of the guy who had all his white blood cells burned away get posted here?

>>281951590
Dagoth ur did nothing wrong, he simply wanted to end the elder scrolls universe before oblivion and skyrim could get a chance to ruin it.

>>281951924
I remember learning about the eventual death of the sun when I was in elementary school, and I couldn't sleep the entire night, thinking about how one day the world would end. Was also terrified of being dead, and trying to comprehend the idea of 'forever'. I was a highly anxious child.

>>281952092
I think you're confusing solipsism with transcendental nihilism

Ew, reminds me of that scene in Robocop 2.

>>281952141
Imagine a parasite that invades your skull through your nose, ears or mouth and takes over your body
You are still conscious, and see everything you do, unable to control yourself.

>>281952141
Dont fucking go there.

>>281951871
>>281948734

And there is no way to prove it. If you really do continue to exist, you will know but you can't prove to anyone else because even if you don't your copy will literally be exactly the same so of course it will conclude that it is the original.

>>281952269
I think you're confusing nihilism with relativism.

>>281952128
The best option is to have a minimal libido and have an adventurous life with some crazy sex spliced in. Excess can be fun, but moderation truly is the spice of life.

>>281945408
>No Heart
>implying heart would do shit without bones generating blood

>>281947563
>everytime you kill yourself you a destroying their universe
>and all the universes that exist for the bacteria within them
>and so on and so on

buy thief 2 gold and play some of the fan missions.

'Broken Triad' is a good one.

And 'The Black Frog.'

There's tons of them. lots of interesting content to explore.

>>281952373
>what are headcrab zombies
>>281952141
Theres a game with a monster based on the nervous system, I just can't remember what it was for the life of me.

>>281952141
It would look weird, yeah, but with no meat to shield its nerves any hit could send waves of crippling pain through it. Plus it would be more like a gooey blob. If a skeleton was coming at you though, you'd be proper fucked.

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>>281952373
pls no

>>281951748
You know I do get more of a workout jerking to gay shit than straight stuff.

Can zone of enders 2 be considered existential?

>>281952389
Exactly, scary shit. I think it's best not to think.

>>281952514
>everytime you kill yourself you a destroying their universe
EVERY TIME!?!

>>281952373
>implying I didn't read Animorphs
come on anon, you'll need to do better than that

>>281949385
I was talking to my cousin about this exhibit earlier this weak. She's a med school student and has worked on cadavers before.

They're taught to greet the bodies Hello before they get to work and thank them after they're done. Apparently there's been a few /x/-quality incidents involving students and profs who didn't treat the bodies with respect, but she didn't get into details

Anyway, the point I was getting to is that most of the bodies at the exhibit are Chinese. Which is funny because most of them have massive dicks. Can't blame me for staring, you would too if you went to see it. It's probably engorged on a shitton of preservatives though. Also the directing scientist of the exhibit is a German dude.

Once again, Germany and Asians work together to bring us macabre, fucked up shit that's somehow also really educational.

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>>281952128
Nearly no libidofag here.

Deliver me from this hell and let me see life through your sex crazed eyes.

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>>281952514
>everytime you kill yourself

>>281952398
Relativism is a result of not believing in any transcendentals

not to say that transcendental nihilism would mean you would necessarily turn into one of those faggots who refuse to take a position because "everything relative hurr"

>>281952269
I'm not confusing them, both sentiments have separately been related in this thread

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>>281952514
>>everytime you kill yourself

I see you there, deliberately trying to be the next "imagine if you were a human" guy.

It's not working on me, you fucking faggot.

>>281952645
Yeah, but it lacks a lot of subtlety. Also that godawful translation/voice acting kills it.

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>>281952736
>this guy hasn't even killed himself yet
>he doesn't realize you have respawns

>>281950249
More like /v/ - 8th grade English Lit

God, even /lit/ can't pretend to be as dumb as this thread.

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>>281947871
>Life does not exist
what are definitions
life as we define it exists
>You don't have a soul or spirit
true
>Emotions and feelings are an illusion created by your brain.
>illusion
kek you even repeatedly say that the mind is made up of matter urself
>rest
true

>>281952837
>he can't see the minimap

Fuck man, my dad died for the 6th time today. Not taking it to well.

>>281952742
Everything is relative, though.

>>281944817
instantly m8

>>281947871
Imagine a life where you have never been great at anything, never felt the urge to be great at anything, never felt that magnetic admiration to someone who was great at something, wanted to imitate and ultimately defeat him. Just nothing. Literally all you do in life is exist. Occupy space. pass the time. You're a chick.

You're bored,tweeting about your fucking hair and not even feeling any kind of happiness from it, just soothing your constant need to be bitter and cunty and petty toward other women. Every single thing you've done in the past year was mundane, shallow, and boring. You spent the last six hours reading kinda-interesting Reddit stories about people who made interesting Halloween hats for their kids or some stupid bullshit that you think is interesting and you may say is interesting but you're not really sure if it's really interesting. You're just fucking sitting there, gestating, fermenting, with a moist hole between your legs that guarantees you'll at least never have to get up and move around and work to support yourself.

And then you see men, over in some corner, having fun. You've never seen this before. What are they even doing? Instead of their consciousnesses merely sitting in their thick skull and revolving around itself, they are imbuing their conscious energy and intentionality into external objects, crafts, goals, projects. All the bitterness and cuntiness you feel nonstop seems to be absent, as they congratulate each other for being victorious, and happily learn from someone who defeated them. These creatures are truly content to be alive. They have found purpose in a purposeless universe.

And your gaze turns back on itself, on your self, and you realise you've never had that. You can never have it. You're just a stupid cunt.

So you get up, you walk over there, and you fucking ruin everything. Just ruin the whole fucking thing. The five seconds of attention you get will be worth destroying it. Because you're a woman.

>>281944817
it would be extremely painful