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MGSIV was a mess of a game whereas MGSV is...
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MGSIV was a mess of a game whereas MGSV is shaping up to be Kojima's masterpiece.

What went wrong with MGSIV?
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youtube exclusive
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It was your first Metal Gear, so you wouldn't enjoy how improved the gameplay is from 3.
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it's basically just fanservice throughout
the gameplay was actually kind neat but there was nowhere near enough of it
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>>277705565
It was fine, literally the only people who shit on it are hurr durr ps3 movie losers who didn't own the system.
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>>277705565
Kojima didn't want to make it. His perfectionist personality forced him to put forth some degree of effort, but his heart wasn't in it at all.
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fucking TPS shit and turret sections at the end of each act

i wouldn't mind that shit at the end of the game, they've always gone over the top there, but when I'm playing through the game I want to play Metal Gear Solid, not a generic TPS.

also one act was rolling through little robots half the time and another was following a dude around the whole time just to enter another turret section

I liked act 1 and 2
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MGS4 was a pretty good game. /v/ agrees that it was good not great.
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Even-numbered Metal Gears have a lot of hangups, while odd-numbered ones are pretty fucking cool.
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>What went wrong with MGSIV?

Nothing?
Unless of course you're one of those people that get mad at things being exclusive.
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>>277705924
Kojima seems really passionate about MGSV. Why didn't he want to make 4?
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>IV
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>>277705924
This and Kojima's husbando became Big Boss after MGS3 so he now shits on Solid whenever he can.
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>>277706182
MGS2 wasn't meant to be continued.
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>What went wrong with MGSIV?
Acts 3 & 4
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>IV
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MGO proved it was fucking excellent, the main story was bogged down by cutscenes and small areas to play in.

Seriously the camera and controls were excellent.
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>>277706182
because he doesn't like Solid Snake
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>>277706083
The story and everything after act 2. Sometimes, I wonder if Kojima actually thinks shit like Meryl's wedding scene was good when he wrote it.

>>277706190
Fuck off.
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>>277706185
His first (and likely only) Metal Gear is obviously Ground Zeroes, given that it's the first MG to have a Roman numeral (rather than an Arabic one) after it.
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They shutdown MGO servers
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Nothing. People demanded a fucking conclusion after 2 and got it. What the fuck else do you people want? The gameplay, story, music, graphics, sound effects, and details in the game were fantastic. It's the worst out of the main 4 games, but it's still incredible.

The only thing I didn't agree with was fucking Naomi. Holy shit everything about her in the game was horrendous.
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>>277706373
It's true though. He's became sick of Solid Snake and is trying to force Big Boss as the face of Metal Gear.
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MGS4 was my favorite MGS
I think the majority of people who agree are ones who grew up with the series and arent blinded by nostalgia
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>>277705565
>those graphics
jesus, even counter-strike source looks better than that
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>>277705565
What ever goes wrong with the Solid Snake games? They always have some stupid ass futuristic bullshit thrown in. I feel as if Kojima has a easier time writing for the Big Boss games because they're a bit more grounded in reality, and not to mention the time periods are just more interesting in general.
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There may have been a lot of cut scenes, but outside of that, the core game is excellent.
The mechanics are top-notch, we got :
>cool CQC shit
>better movement (i.e. crouchwalking)
>good graphics
>gun porn (which wasn't necessary but it was fun)
>octocamo (no more pausing like MGS3)
>lots of easter eggs and shit

I didn't like Act 3 though.
It's a good game
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THE SYSTEM IS MINE
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>>277706743
Peace Walker isn't grounded at all. The tech is more impressive than stuff in MGS4.
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Here's to hoping MGS5 has 2 endings--one which leads to the first Metal Gear and one which leads to an alternate canon.
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Act 3 was shit. In fact all the rail shooting bits were shit.

The rest was pretty good though. I really enjoyed sneaking through all the broken buildings in act 1.
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>>277706907
LIQUID!!!!!
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Nothing. The only "problem" was the fact that it was PS3 exclusive. I say "problem" because the gane was so fucking large that it simply wouldn't fit on a conventional CD-DVD. It only worked on Blu-ray, thus it couldn't come to X360.

The other "problem" is that some feel the cutscenes are too long. But I felt they were fine, Kojima went for a cinematic feel, and he got it. This doesn't prevent people from saying stupid shit like "MGS THE MOVIE, AMIRITE?", but what can I do?
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>calling MGS4 MGSIV
Was GZ your first MGS game, OP?
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>>277706963
the first area in act 2 was the best for using all the game mechanics
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4 was shit, but if it was never made we wouldn't have gotten Revengance so I'm cool wit it.
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>>277706182
Because the story was a dead end after 2. He wrote himself into a corner that Konami and his own fans were forcing him out of.

Afterwards, Konami gave him the funding to create his new game engine while allowing him to work on other projects such as Castlevania and Silent Hill. Getting a chance to play with his 'new toys' (Fox Engine), as well as work with high profile American celebrities like Keifer, Norman Reedus, Del Toro, etc. probably gave him a much needed boost of energy.
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