>>276959869 Kind of annoying. They cut 3 dungeons from the game, one for nayrus pearl, and a second fire dungeon that was replaced by the fire mountain where you get the power bracelets and the ice dungeon where you get the ice boots.
I think Wind Waker is the weakest, to be honest. Exploration is its strong point, of course, just like pacing was OoT's, atmosphere was MM's, scale was TP's and level design was SS'.
But man, the pacing on this one is REALLY bad, way worse than Twilight Princess or Skyward Sword. The game takes forever for you to do anything intersting and limit your exploration until you reach the fucking forest island. Dungeons are poorly designed, there are too few of them and the game is filled with, well, filler.
Being a Zelda game, of course Wind Waker is years ahead anything that tries to be a 3D adventure game, but is still the weakest Zelda in my opinion.
From what I've heard they improved it for hd but I've read people on here saying GameCube is better but never saying why other than "ugly bloom" if you think gc looks better than he, then you need your eyes checked
>>276961280 The HD version fixed many problems. Sailing is way faster, there's no triforce quest and the inventory being accessed in real time makes the game truly shine.
However, fast sailing is also a double edged sword. While it's twice as faster, you don't even need to change the wind direction, meaning that the wind baton is useless for everything but a couple puzzles in the game. Changing the wind was part of the charm in the original.
>>276962002 Did you gest the fast sail, that red one? When you press A again during the sail, the wind shifts to behind you and you go really fast. When you turn the boat, the wind changes automatically.
But sure as fuck it is my favorite. >That great feeling when you sail and you go to adventure, with the weather and time of the day that changes, following the wind and fighting pirates, while THAT song plays in background Nothing can compare to that. I love it. Love.
And yeah, the HD version is superior. The original art style might be more unique but watching the sunset with the new "bloom" lighting is way better for me.
It was overrated because Gamecube didn't have that many games, I think. The devs made an apology for it but then made many of the same mistakes with TP and SS. Too bad they think it's some delusional "zelda cycle" and not an issue.
>>276963287 And are you trying to deny the existance of a Zelda cycle? OoT aside, every other 3D Zelda was hated on its release and following years until the next one came by the horizon and the last one was finally accepted and loved.
Honestly? This is really the only 3D Zelda game i've played that i enjoyed. Granted, i haven't played Majora's Mask, which i've been told by friend is "my style", but...i don't know. I like the colorful graphics and the emotion in Link's face in the cutscenes. It has a nice charm to it. Plus, sailing though the ocean makes the world feel enormous and is very soothing.
>>276959218 are you unable to say anything intelligent and thoughtful about zelda? why is the only zelda discussion /v/ knows how to have the best vs worst argument? its the same fucking conversation every day here
Yes because it's absurd to assume the people who hated WW are the same ones who had fond memories of it and also that those same people then hated TP with a passion but then changed their minds when SS came out. It's far too contrived.
>>276964067 But that's exactly what happens, you retard. Zelda games are so hyped and yet so different that, everytime a new one comes out, it's not exactly like [your favorite one]! And then people get mad and don't give the game the value it deserves.
Majora's Mask was hated by the public when it launched, but well, trying to pinpoint the general opinion is kinda hard on that one since the game is so old. But Wind Waker is an obvious case. People hated it, everywhere, called cartoony and shallow. When Twilight Princess came out it suddenly became the best Zelda ever and TP became the hated one.
Even if you have as few as 5 years on this board you could easily see how much people hated Twilight Princess before Skyward Sword. It was the popular opinion. and now everyone loves it. Skyward Sword is getting more positive threads as well now.
The cycle is simple and real. People expect that their own selfish views on the games are the ones that Zelda will adopt, and when it turns out to be something different, they have to wait a long time before accepting the game. I'm tired of hearing "the only thing X Zelda game did for me was give me new light on [previous] Zelda", or "I'm on my second playthrough of this Zelda and I actually like it this time around".
>>276968269 TP is great. It just takes way too long to get going and they didn't really come up with cool enough stuff to do as the wolf other than catching bugs... A snappier start and just something a little more engaging for the wolf and it would be held in much much higher regard, I think.
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