First we take away your video games, you misoginist pissbaby manchilde scum. Then we take away metal music and comics. And when we're done, we take away the porn.
All the things that made America suck.
LONG LIVE SOCIAL JUSTICE
>even Valve has been taken over by SJWs
Who cares that it isn't on Steam?
I'll buy a DRM FREE copy straight from them, they won't have a cut of the money taken from them and I get a game devoid of bullshit.
Social Justice can't do shit against FREEDOM.
>tfw realizing popular pc games like Postal or Manhunt wouldn't be allowed on Steam today
>Implying Hatred has an ounce of the knowing humour Postal had.
That's the difference. And Manhunt you're fighting for survival.
CEO liked Polska Liga Obrony on Facebook (Anti-Islam group based on English Defence League), stated he did this to receive news from them and does not receive news from anywhere else.
Jakub Stychno, creative designer, wore t-shirt of Żołnierze wyklęci (Cursed soldiers), anti-communist group in Poland in WW2 accused of killing Jews https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Żołnierze_wyklęci#Kwestia_antysemityzmu_i_akcje_przeciwko_mniejszo.C5.9Bciom nowadays most of people who really care about them are Neo-Nazis, see https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t952096/ for pics of a rally remembering them with people holding White Pride World Wide flags
Jakub Stychno also supports Obóz Narodowo Radykalny https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Radical_Camp_%281993%29 extreme-right group that has marched in protest of Jews and made nazi salutes
Quite accurately, this is the most artistic game made to date. It's a biting commentary on how we justify our wanton slaughter in videogames and how removal of one tiny aspect can lead to complete
>people defending this censorship
Neato. Always nice to have diversity in game developers.
I'm really having a hard time figuring out if this is censorship, so I wanna try a hypothetical and see what /v/ thinks:
Let's say that you are Valve and someone wants to put their super SJW walking simulator that bashes gamers, basically Gone Home 2 but it insults video games left and right, praises itself as the true savior of gaming, and get glowing praise and tons of people who want to buy it. They want to release it on Steam, and its on the greenlight in the 7th ranked out of 2200+ games.
You have the power to delete it off of Greenlight saying its not a game you want on there, thereby "censoring" it, or you can leave it on for the crowd to choose. It looks like it'll do well enough thanks to a very vocal minority.
What would you personally do?
Ok now I actually don't want their game. They're literally nazis, we're supposed to shoot nazis not support them.
>piss off SJW's
And....why do we have a problem with them again? Oh right....the SJW shills infesting /v/ after GG blew up are still here, silly me.
This ain't /co/, faggots. You have no power here.
OH DA HORRORS
HOW DARE DOSE WHITE PEOPLE HAVE A LOVE FOR THEIR OWN KIND. THOSE BASTIDS WILL ROT IN THE DEEPEST DARKEST HELLS
YOU CAN ONLY OPENLY SUPPORT YOUR OWN RACE IF YOU AREN'T WHITE, BASTIDS! SAME WITH POLITICAL AGENDAS, IF YA' AIN'T A MARXIST, DON'T VOICE YA' OPINION, GOY!
Oy Vey! The worst thing in this world is a straight white male who doesn't want islam to rule his country!
racial pride is retarded
The jews are not behind some secret shit
"cultural marxism" and race mixing is a result of technology advancements, not an evil cabal of a religion you hate you fedora tipper
They're censorship from pressure. Isn't this exactly what /pol/ and GG have been fighting AGAINST?
>It's okay when valve does
Stop worshipping this company. They are a heartless corporation the same as gawker. It's not 2007 anymore.
Oh my, that's horrible! We must consider the feelings of every single human being on earth and compare to every single thing a developer has done in the past before we can release games.
Let it go through.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"-voltaire
Although I would let people use negative tags like 'shit', 'SJW' or 'not a game'.
>Being against censorship is censorship because you're trying to censor the censor from censoring
Cursed Soldiers were not Nazis. Might have been anti-jewish but not nazis.
But today people who care much about anti-communist groups in ww2 very often neo-Nazis. People who march in support of anti-communist groups from 60 years ago very often nazis.
Well that should be a good motivator for them to make a better game next time, hm?
So what happened, a bunch of retards cried?
I mean, it looks like a shit game from just the gameplay and aesthetic, but still.
>censorship is bad! Fucking SJWs ruining our games, worse thing ever. Gaming is dead
>Oh...it's okay when Valve does it. t-t-thanks valve
You can't defeat SJWs while you still hold loyalty to a company, fools.
Remember kids; SJW's are the ones fighting for freedom and justice!
>One company decides not to sell something
Stop being such fucking retards.
I wouldn't buy it full price either. But that doesn't matter. Valve banned it despite people having a lot of interest in it
>mfw I finally did it v
>I finally turned 18
I AM NOW A LEGITIMATE OLDFAG
The anti-jewish stuff was Soviet propaganda.
>saying anti-communist like it was a bad thing
You people don't understand: Since its very existence, Poland has been pushed around by Germany and Russia. Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia took their slice and when the Nazis were fought off, the Soviet invaders were still here.
Why do you keep implying it was removed for quality reasons when there are numerous buggy unplayable games with deviant art graphics on steam. Fuck, this game looks better than 80% of games greenlit
It is when they allow some games that have the same qualities, but not other. All of this from their community-based voting system they claim reveals what people really want in the store.
>encouraging people to accept a bunch of angry moms/SJW's whims of the month rather than what the medium dictates
Maybe not direct censorship but it's opening doors to bigger and shittier censorship. "We got that vile game off the shelves, which one is next?" isn't a great mentality and allowing this kinda BS to happen will cause it."The gamers didn't put up much of a fight last time, let's do it again!"
Meanwhile music, film, and tv are laughing their asses off since no one would object to this in their mediums (violent rap, "art snuff" films like Eden Lake, the trash they air everyday on Fox). Video games are just an easy target and underfunded to fight these kind of flashy battles.
Do you think a bunch of retarded and entitled technologybaby-Americans will ever understand the plight of poles and their grandparents who've lived through literal shit?
Everything is just left and right and commie and nazi in their burgertongue.
Continuation off of this question:
What should be done if a company like Steam should decide to "censor" a game like Hatred by not allowing it on their service?
Should people just be upset at them, or should someone actually step in and correct them?
"Take away metal?"
Someone knows nothing about music.
I'm gonna go put on Prosthetic Cunt's "Raping Your Teenage Daughter With A Frozen Vomit Fuckstick"
Well, I'm not, cause it sucks, but who is taking what away from whom?
>company as powerful as Valve falling to the whims of crying faggots without any power
What the fuck is the world coming to.
They just need to make a better game though
Being new isn't about a number you can gloat about, it's about experience. That's one of the reason why people blow off claims of being an oldfag.
And you severely lack experience.
If people like it enough, then they'll fucking follow it to its new vendor. I don't give a shit if it's less visible, that doesn't sound like a real game to me, and I sell games.
>TFW RWS is remaking Postal on the Unreal Engine 4
Look at all the shitty and violent games that have made it past greenlight. It's hypocritical to remove this when the theme is very clear. You don't go into watching Natural Born Killers and get offended when they kill everyone violently by the end. Just don't participate or support it if it offends you.
The gameplay looked better than most of the shit and VN's that get past Steam's quality control
A lot of things, but specifically whenever they immigrate into a country they cause a lot of problems and create a dramatic increase in rapes. The group that guy is affiliated want to protect polish women from muslims, which apparently makes them a hate group.
You don't understand either. You won't.
Because you're an American too. Whether you're from Japan or Wisconsin, South Africa or Seattle, you're all devour our culture and becoming American.
I'm supporting the games right to exist and to have equal chance with all the other indie games.
I'm not planning to buy it unless it's cheap.
It's a slippery slope afterwards, because SJW redefine sexism, racism every day
Hatred confirmed worse than random anime VNs
The game must really be shitty then
I support it being sold, or at least letting the fucking consumer base decide on its success instead of letting some namby pamby crybaby faggot tell me what I can and can't play.
You fuckers can push the "SJW AND NON-SJW ARE JUST TWO SIDES OF DA SAME COIN!" argument all you want, it doesn't really hold water when one side is incredibly irrational at all times and supports mass censorship as well as the loss of freedom of speech.
>/v/ defends pedophile simulators
>is okay with a murder simulators getting pulled
I can't take these double standards anymore.
They're even more retarded. I know a dude who studied in Israel, he said they're cunty even to each other over tiny meaningless religious differences.
Pride over anything other than personal achievement is fucking dumb.
Okay /v/, I have a question for you: Why do you care so much about a story between a corporation and a developers team?
I mean, that's not your business, you have no part from any of them, your life will continue whatever would happen about it, and yet you want so much to give the impression to any people here that you are so angry about it you are ready to make crusades and Jihads to Valve, a private corporation, because they decide to remove a game that could soil their image.
You know what is the worse in all this? You don't actually about this game, oh no you fucking don't. You know that would be shit because there are nothing good playfully about shooting to moving targets that can't defend against your character. What you actually about all this is just about make SJW shitting in their pants for the forsake of the "glorious 4chan culture" or any stupid excuses that have a link about 4chan. But, at the end, you are nothing more than pawns for ideological bullshits that have nothing to do with video games.
My advice to you is not be a normalfag or be a "OMG SO PROGRESSIVE", but to grow the fuck up and stop to act like edgy children and teens. It's fucking time you take your responsibilities, anon!
Oh, believe me, I'm not. Well, unless you count Coca Cola and this image board.
The think about being a burgerfucker is that you're insulated in a dome of mono cultural flag and military worship. What other culture and history do you know? Tacos and Canada? Can you even name your own states?
I will never expect a hamscooter to understand what the Slavs went through.
>screams how SJWs changing or getting games pulled is the worst plight to ever happen to mankind and will literally bring down civilization
>supports SJWs removing games when they do it from behind a major company
el oh el
It's almost as good as /v/'s "furries are great people. Bronies are the devil" double standard
Define "step in". We obviously can't force Steam to carry the game, but we absolutely shouldn't accept this.
Hatred does not violate any of Steam's rules. It's not even the most violent game on the service. It was taken down because SJW complained about it. Their influence is growing stronger and stronger, and they've gone from being a nuisance on Tumblr to actually hurting the industry. The time to push back is now.
>private store decides it doesn't feel like dealing with the shitstorm and so doesn't sell it
>devs still 100% free to sell their game direct or through anywhere else that doesn't give a fuck
>get tons of free publicity to boot
I really hope a lot of you are just pretending to be retarded.
Yeah, but people are bitching that the game won't get as much visibility. As if the game isn't receiving a fuckton of visibility right now. People who want it are following it until they can buy it.
I seriously hope there aren't people so desperate to be contrarians that they've actually taken up the SJW cause to be unique special snowflakes on /v/. But I can really see that happening.
Also there are legit shills on /v/ right now from other sites, they've been here since GG started. If you want to know what happens to a board if they let those fuckers sit around and fester, just go to /co/.
SJW's and feminists are the new prudes.
Treat them as such.
This really bothers me, but eh, it's Valve's prerogative. I'll purchase the game on GoG or wherever else it's being sold.
Not that I think the game will be good oh god no, it'll probably suck. But I don't like the way people are reacting to this game, so I want there to be more like it in the future so that people can accept that there's nothing wrong with games like these being around. I supported Senran Kagura as well.
>Why do you care so much about a story between a corporation and a developers team?
Because it is blatant hypocrisy. Steam has sold more offensive games and MUCH worse games before. The game had support behind it, but was removed. Yes, they can still publish the game elsewhere, but in a world where Steam comprises over 75% of games sold on PC this is a huge blow to the game's success.
>posting an epic pepe maymay image to pretend you're a regular poster
>telling people to "grow up" (a common SJW tactic from the people who brought you "making fart noises on twitter as a rebuttal" and "calling people pissbabies as a rebuttal")
>telling consumers they have no right to object to anything that businesses do
So, how is that fresh $10 in your bank account? Going to spend it on Zoe Quinn's Patreon or perhaps the Feminist Frequency Patreon? You've got tons of options!
>Hatred does not violate any of Steam's rules
It violates the Rule #1: "Anything we offer on Steam should make us more money then it costs us." Ie., it's Valve's private store and they can do whatever the fuck they want with it, whenever the fuck they want. I don't see them offering Rapelay any time soon either, and please understand that I think that was hilariously terrible not any sort of "moral outrage" or whatever, but why would Valve ever bother? It'll cost them money in whining while barely making them anything since it's so old & niche. Obvious business decision is not to bother.
Same shit here. There are times when Valve would decide "we must take a stand" because enough customers want it that it'll be good business even if it pisses other people off, and times when they may even have personal morals they care about (because Valve is a private company, so they can do that if they feel like it). But for this? Please.
Conservatives ultimately won; they convinced liberals that video games are bad and must be removed from society.
They even think it's the cool thing to do.
>/v/ is ok with censorship on politically incorrect games
>/v/ is defending valve on this one
I want off the ride
The correct action is to let it slide and don't mention anything about it. Feminists/SJWs are going to claim victory for this no matter what, but if you all start acting indignant about it then that will just embolden them. People who don't inherently support SJWs but are opposed to Hatred will be more inclined to flock to their side if they see a big nasty debate going on.
The bottom line is that the game is still coming out and will still be readily available, it just won't be on Steam. If you really do blame the fems/SJWs for censorship or whatever, then they can't really win if you are still able to buy the game. The only thing inflating the controversy will do is convince other suppliers not to carry it and further reduce its exposure and sales, and then the fems/SJWs really WILL win.
Don't be stupid, /v/.
>whining and crying about Valve not wanting to support neo-nazis
>Not going to their webpage, GoG, or just fucking pirating it.
We'll stop calling you retarded when you stop being retarded.
Oh well, looks like my money is going straight to the devs without the Steam middle-man.
It's a bit shitty that it didn't get Greenlit, if the infographic in >>275827702 is correct.
Also, the people saying it's nothing like Postal because of muh humour have never played the first Postal.
for now it's just some shitty game getting removed. But when will it stop? If we all just bend over and let the killjoy SJWs fuck us in the ass it will start a trend. My advice to you is to stop being such a passive bitch and give the slightest effort defend vidya from these faggots
>le strawman bait face
>private businesses can't choose products
>Freedom of Speech means Freedom from Criticism and Freedom from Social Consequences!
>My shit tastes are so close to common sense that nothing short of monetary bribes could sway someone to disagree with me!
I don't see how this has anything to do with freedom of speech. The developers need a third party to distribute their game through?
I've never understood how people keep trying to turn this shit into an argument of ethics.
Valve has the right to do whatever they want.
That said, it's cowardly, hypocritical, sets dangerous precedents, and probably cost them some money.
Of course nobody cares about the actual game. It looks fucking awful. Don't mean you gotta love censorship.
And seriously nigger, do you really expect your post to have any influence on anyone when it's just such generalized hogwash it applies perfectly to the thin skinned faggot censors as well?
>by further entrenching steam power rather then just buying it direct
why is neo/v/ so fucking retarded. I guess all the children here now weren't even conscious for the entire 80s, 90s and early 00s.
This. Valve can do it but I think it sends a sketchy message of "whine loud enough regardless of your actual stance on violence and you can get whatever media you want taken down!"
If you still believe SJW's care about freedom, you are delusional.
Not really the point I'm trying to make. Steam has refused to support the game, yet they still sell the Postal Series. This is extremely hypocritical, and deserves to be called out as such. Sure, they can do it, but its it's still pretty scummy.
>Enacted Motion Picture Production Code
Movies are now more violent and contain more 'questionable' content than ever.
>Enacted Comic Book Code
Comics are now more violent and contain more 'questionable' content than ever.
Nothing anyone tries will ever have any lasting impact besides bringing out more intensity in what they were trying to block.
>Implying the media nightmare that will happen when Hatred actually releases is anything even remotely comparable to the fact that Postal exists
You're just being stupid, Valve obviously wants to avoid being in the middle of an insane circus. GTA is the only thing that comes close to that, but GTA is the poster child for a much more generalized opposition to violence in video games. When the media starts to rip apart Hatred, it's not going to be about violent video games, it's going to be about Hatred and all the parallels to mass shootings and gun control and the much more significant issues that people get riled up about.
How anon. When has Valve ever said "We promise to offer any vidya of any kind, no matter what it contains!" Because as far as I can remember it's actually been the total fucking opposite, they started with strong gatekeepers that they've slowly removed, but it's still not anything goes at all. In fact the entire Greenlight process is just another gatekeeper, albeit a broader one.
>sets dangerous precedents
What. They can change their mind and be entirely arbitrary, this isn't the fucking judicial system. There is no "precedent".
>and probably cost them some money.
Ha! If it was going to cost them money they wouldn't do it. They did it because it'll make them money.
>First we take away your video games
But they didn't. You just can't buy it through steam.
The developers have already won
If it stayed on steam, it would get a shitton of attention
By being taken off steam, its going to get a shitton of attention
This is was a silly move by Valve, considering the level of trash they allow through greenlight. That being said it wont even put a dent in their immortal domination of the PC market so I doubt they really care either way.
Question: why did conservatives in the late 80's/early 90's fail, yet liberals 0f 2014 succeeded?
I don't think it was the lack of vaginas, Tipper Gore was a big deal back then.
Uh, people of color? What the fuck.
...this actually pisses me off. I'm white goddamn it.
>lets force something isn't a game on steam
>lets put a literal scam on the head page
>but remove solely because of an infringement suit from DayZ and not because it was scamming piece of shit.
This so fucking much.
Oh, but I'm sorry, SJWs are right, it says NOWHERE that they're trying to take away certain video games, yup, those exact words haven't been said anywhere therefore nobody is able to discern that form any of their tweets or blog posts.
The guy that sent her the video wasn't harassing her either. He said later that he was bringing it to her attention so she had some more ammunition to whine about but instead he copped both barrels.
Question: Was anyone, even people who hate sockjuice warriors, interested in this game?
It just looked like "EDGELORD SUPREME: THE GAME" and didn't interest me.
Now, just because it's not for me, I wouldn't try to stop it from getting on Steam, or try to stop people from buying it.
But was anyone actually interested in this game?
The free market decided, I suppose.
literally nothing convinces them. Before GG and the 4chan mod cleansing these people would say "i-it's just the SJW Boogeyman!". You would think all the happenings that went on with GG they would be conviced that these people are a growing tumor, but no.
>First they came for the Australians, and I did not speak out because I was not a shitposter
Then they came for the edgy games, and I did not speak out because I was do not like edgy games
Because it's under the banner of feminism and the 'victims'. In the 90s it was rigid white guys complaining about content, but now that an oppressed faction is doing it.. well you see the results.
I don't really feel like arguing this fully because I'm tired.
>They sell other violent games.
>Shows that if people whine hard enough they can get anything they don't like pulled.
>They get a cut of every game sold.
>Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.
>Governments, private organizations and individuals may engage in censorship. When an individual such as an author or other creator engages in censorship of their own works or speech, it is called self-censorship.
Yep, that's exactly what it is.
I'm just a lot older than you and have lived through this shit before so it's nothing new. You think this is the first time a company pulled something for PR reasons? You sure are a youngin
I am so fucking sick of this fucking argument. What happens when nobody carries the game anymore because its "too offensive"? Faggots like you spew bullshit saying that will never happen, but if you keep giving ground it will eventually happen.
What isn't fine about it? Only children toss around "hypocrisy" since on the Internet it's used incorrectly 99% of the time and is usually meaningless even in the remaining 1%. The explanation is obvious: this one is causing a shitstorm, and it's not going to sell squat, and so Valve would prefer the whole thing go away. Would you be happier if they DID go and cull everything else? Because outrage isn't scalable, people move on quick, so if Valve is purely reactive this will only happen once in a blue moon.
And no one has yet answered why it has to be on Steam vs the devs selling it themselves, the way we got all our indie stuff in the past.
>The free market decided, I suppose.
How did the free market decide if it wasn't released on Steam following a poll that unanimously voted for it to be released on Steam you illiterate fucking moron?
I am glad it got pulled. The modern gamer is not mature enough to handle it. It would be like giving a loaded gun to a screaming devil child and saying "Now Timmy, don't do anyth-" of course before you'd finish talking you'd have two bullets in the gut.
Since Valve is evil SJWs now, does that mean 4chan will goycot the whole service finally? I am tired of seeing stupid little girl anime avatars everywhere with racist stuff posted beneath.
Not really. Being controversial just for the sake of being controversial is nothing to appreciate and makes it just as shallow and worthy of derision as something like Gone Home. This only has a leg up because it appears to contain gameplay, but that portion of it doesn't look particularly good either.
It had thousands of supportive comments and would have easily made the Greenlight. Pretty sure it was going to sell well on Steam and probably even better (barring Steam) than before due to tons of buzz
Eh, I can agree with you on that. Hatred IS super edgy, and would no doubt draw attention from both sides of the political spectrum. GTA has armor because it's a massive franchise, but Hatred is small and easily ripped.
Growing strength of social media. Every (wo)man and his dog has a facebook account, everyone in their mid-20's has a twitter account and every famous person has a Vine. Social media lets even the dumbest of people voice their opinions and in the end, success is measured not by who is right, but by who screams the loudest.
All Thompson could use was newspapers and TV news. He was before his time.
Austrialia has always been retarded about video games, and it's literally one retail chain. And people don't bitch every day about Germany is taking the violence out of video games and how it's some crazy censorship even though it's way more censorship than this will ever be.
Seriously, Valve deciding they don't want to deal with a controversy isn't censorship. They just don't want to have to defend themselves to every news station that's going to come knocking because people will hold Valve partially responsible because the world is stupid like that.
What comics have they taken away? Because I guarantee you, the idiots running the companies have been taking good comics away from me years before any of this feminazi bullshit started.
>Privately owned company has say in what they want and do not want to sell
Oh man, that what a shocker. Everyone should get super mad that Gamestop doesnt sell PS2 games anymore, fucking SJWs/Nazis/Jews/CIS/Furries/Ragheads/Spics/Men/Women/Feminists/MRA's censoring everything.
>implying /pol/ didn't make a ton of accounts to pretend anyone actually cared
I'll never get over how the devs for Hatred made this game immediately after gaymergayt became a thing and nobody suspects that this is just a shitty cash grab.
It's a top-down shooter that the devs made because 'uggh so many ppl are against violent video games' when Hotline Miami had already come out and was REALLY SUCCESSFUL.
>You have to respect everyone's views and lifestyles equally!
>Look, fucking nazis! Don't buy their game! Demonise them with a smear campaign!
>b-b-buh that OTHER violent game so...
THAT'S NOT HYPOCRISY YOU FUCKING RETARDS. "Hypocrisy" is not a synonym for "asshole" or "greedy cold son of a bitch", it merely means someone takes a moral stand in words while doing something else. Guess what, if your words are "look out for #1" then it's not "hypocrisy" if you do just that. Offering games that don't have a tons of bad PR while pulling games that do isn't hypocrisy unless Valve was constantly promising they won't do any such thing and talking about how important it is for markets to have no filters or whatever. When have they ever done that?
I said it was one of the most misused insults on the net and this is exactly why, people cry "hypocrite" just because businesses are looking out for their business exactly as you'd expect. Fucking stupid.
>The free market decided
>9 times more positive votes than negative votes
>Thor is female
>Cap is black
Look I'm all for diversity but comics are next on the chopping block. The New52 and Marvel Now both are SJW pandering tumblr tier shit, which is exactly the market they wanted. TV and Film industries have enough money to fight these idiots off but I wonder for how long. Luckily there are awesome comics like Wicked and Divine, Saga, and Southern Basterds that give no fucks.
>privately owned company has the right to sell what they wish, therefore they should never be criticized for any of the actions they make no matter how unethical or hypocritical.