Is there a shittier shotgun anywhere in video games?

The Gnasher. It doesn't even work online.

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The fuck? Douk's shotgun is almost on par with Dooms!

Meanwhile D3's shotgun was a disaster. Weak as hell, spreads the pellets into a 3x3 meter wide area from a point blank range, and also both looks and sounds like a toy.

It's not the shotgun's fault, the enemies in dook just have way the fuck too much health.

>>275468703
Doom 3 shotgun was good when taking on imps. Everything else, plasma rifle and chain gun

>>275468703
There's a half second delay between clicking and firing. Its fine for circle strafing stationary enemies but terrible for online.

>>275468305
I was terribly disappointed by the double barrel shotgun in EYE.

>Does less damage per shell than the other shotgun.
>huge ass spread. Why even have ironsites for it?
>no armor piercing, enjoy wasting 20 shells on a single enemy that respawns shortly afterwards.

literally only saving grace was that it was the smallest shotgun. That and it looked badass.

>>275468372
I bet you use sawed off huh faggot?

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>Doom 2 super shotgun

I literally used that gun 75% of the playthrough

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>huge ass spread

>>275468825
I wasn't thrilled about the Ripper either. Only 200 rounds, and you blow through it all killing only a few guys stronger than the trooper.

All the modern Call of duty shotguns that become completely ineffectual at ranges further than 10 feet.

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Yo.

>>275469398
If your talking about
>>275469171
The spread is pretty bad compared to the pellet ratio and the fact that half the enemies you face use assault rifles and other long range weapons.

>>275469530
You missed the joke.

>>275468305
Evil Within's shotgun is fucking awful.

>>275469421
That shit drives me nuts. It's worse that tons of games are guilty of it not just the COD series.

It's a rare sight to find a shotgun that can hit things at farther than 10 feet.

The Rising Storm shotgun comes to mind as a great shotgun.

>>275469437

God I wish that shit was better. Fuck.

Mad as hell about shit shotguns..

>>275468920
doom 3 was seriously one of the worst shotguns I've ever seen. the damn thing spread so much it couldn't hit a target further than 8 feet away, like for fucking real? not to mention it sounds like fucking dogshit but all the weapons sounded like shit in doom 3

>>275469421
This is because of pvp. If you remember that brief period during MW2 where akimbo 1887s were all the rage you'd know how awful it is for games.

Also, if you wanna get technical, you could probably take a .18 or maybe even .12 shot from 40 feet in real life. It will hurt and you'll be pulling pellets out of you, but you'll most likely survive, maybe even from less distance I'm not quite sure. Buckshot no obviously, but birdshot yes (I've been shot with a shotgun before from about 50 feet away, was just covered in welts and had to pick a couple pellets out).

tldr, not only is it shitty for everyone else that has to play with you, long range shotguns dont make sense from a realism standpoint either

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Here's one of the only times where the shotgun not going further than five to ten feet is completely acceptable in my eyes.

>>275469437
wat game

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Friendly reminder that this is the greatest weapon in all of video games.

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>>275468703
Speaking of more recent shotguns, the ones in Hard Reset and the new Shadow Warrior were disappointing. In HR, it's the invisible shockwave cone that does all the work, slow as shit, and the damage isn't great against anything other than the weakest enemies even with all the upgrades. In Shadow Warrior, it's the invisible shockwave cone that does all the work, slow as shit, and the damage isn't great against anything other than the weakest enemies even with all the upgrades.

What the fuck, FWH. Painkiller's shotgun was fine, albeit a bit lacking in the sound and visual feedback. Mechanically it was fucking fine.

>>275469398
im all about the huge ass spread

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>>275469957
I dunno
Turok Auto shotguns are always really fucking satisfying to use
The one in Turok 2 was a literal cannon

>>275468372
Git gud

>>275469437

every weapon in Shadow Warrior sucks except the grenade launcher

>>275469939

Shadow Warrior

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>>275469849
Keep in mind that the choke would alter the effective range of the shotgun.

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>>275469957
Why are break action shotguns so goddamned satisfying?

>>275469437
I'd use that shotgun a lot more if the semi-auto mode didn't have to reload.

>>275468305
AoW2 (multilayer doom mod that makes the game play like CNC renegade). The fucking retard behind the mod decided to give shotguns a hardcap on range and the bullets literally dissapear at 10 feet AND have huge spread. meanwhile half the weapons were just sniper variants and everyone just used fov change binds to snipe people 24-7.

Incidentally, the shotgun in CnC renegade suffers the same problem where it has very short effect range in a game where all the weapons have the effective range of several miles.

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>>275468305
This piece of shit

>>275469849
Dual 1887s did nothing wrong

I also liked suicide bombing people with that one rocket launcher glitch

Halo 3

What a piece of shit

>>275470243
Aren't chokes ineffective on buckshot?

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>>275469376
Both Super and Regular Shotguns are tied to #1 Shotgun of all time.

For range, the regular, for close up and rape in gut out, the Super shotty.

>>275470438
Payday 1 and 2 shotguns are all disappointing really.

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>>275470246
>uppercutting scrakes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=O8TUlvVKL_s#t=142

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>>275470438
One thing I hate about Payday 2, is that the damage number shown for shotguns is applied to each pellet fired, but does not stack if more than one pellet hits an enemy. it actually pays off to LOWER accuracy so you can do collateral damage.

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>>275468305
Probably the goldeneye shotgun
It was actually just a noisemaker that coincidentally fired tomatoes at enemies

>>275470243
Ill agree it definitely does depend on a lot of factors, and I do agree combat shotguns will be better at longer range, most aren't really like this. I'd also be interested in seeing a similar graphic of projectile speed at different distances, as that slows down more with shotguns than anything else.

Im also mostly just talking to the people who think shotguns should be 1 shot instakill machines with the range of rifles, it doesnt work like that.

>>275470695
I thought the Reinbeck in Payday 1 was fucking great. I used it all the time and popped heads from the other side of the map.

Red Orchestra 2: Rising Storm trench gun is amazing. Effective at medium ranges, realistic reload animation, and a FUCKING BAYONET

Did anyone say FEAR 2 yet?

>>275470246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj7UfgWYHiY

>>275470738
At least it's not as bad as the Klobb, that thing was a manure spreader...

Are there any shotguns in vidya that have actual range like a real shotgun?

I hate when they give shotguns the effective range of poking someone with your pinky.

>>275470695
Reinbeck in 1 was great because it was a video game shotgun where you can relibably kill enemies even at 50 yards away.

Locomotive and the Judge are pretty good in 2.

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>>275470895
>talking shit about klobb

>>275470793
>I do agree combat shotguns will be better at longer range
What's the difference between a combat shotgun and a normal shotgun?

Combat ones will probably have open chokes so they can fire breaching slugs without a problem. Other than that, they are the same as normal shotguns.

Generally shotguns aren't a great choice for combat, unless you're firing slugs. The actual damage they do to flesh isn't anywhere close to something like what a 5.56mm will do.

>>275468305
Every shotgun from Advanced Warfare. Point blank does not even kill.

>>275469957
Absolutely no arguments here. Reload sounds forever etched into my head.

>>275468305
The shotgun in Iji wasn't that good.

But then again it was the starting weapon.

But to the contrary to that, painkiller's starting weapons were the shotgun and melee and they were good throughout the game.

>>275470895
>greasing the chamber

>>275471096
What was that shotgun in Ghosts? I think it had a five round clip and was completely useless.

>>275471229
>>275471096
The only CODs with good shotguns were MW2 (all of them were great besides post-patch 1887) and the Trenchgun in COD2.

>>275468305

Nothing can compete to Shadow Warrior's shitastic shotgun.

>>275471213
I know you're a newfag, but you're also an uneducatedfag.

>>275469292
>not spamming the retro

Git Gud

>>275471392
>Trenchgun in COD2.
That thing was so cheap. I loved it.

>>275469421
Well, that's not entirely true. CoD4's had about 5 feet of range, but on smaller maps, or with a bit of thinking on bigger maps, it was useable. But there's no point when you can roll an MP5 or P90 for close range.
MW2 had some legendary balance issues with shotguns, as you may or may not remember. The AA-12, 1887 and Ranger were all broken as fuck until late-game patches.
WaW has two shotguns, both are terrible.
Black Ops has decent shotguns. Roll a Stakeout or Olympia, grip, Dusty Camo and a Python for maximum cowboy action.
MW3 shotguns have similar range, and are very usable, but outclassed
>Blops 2 has some hilariously broken shotgun gameplay with a correctly set up 870. The KSG has crazy range, too.

Battlefield is the better series if you like shotguns, though. Both 3 and 4 have top-tier shottie gameplay.

>>275469957
That's not the FEAR shotgun

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>>275472042
>Running around in Black Ops 2
>870 with Long Barrel and Laser
>Sanic class setup
>Hip-firing at ranges that SMGs need irons for
>People quitting left and right

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Hi I got an upgrade from Doom 2 and wreck house

>>275473120
too bad its missing the reload animation
also doom 64 has to many fucking barons and hell knights that are just bullet sponges on watch me die

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>>275473458
thank god for the modding community,

now if only Doom64EX would get updated so that we can properly mod it.

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>>275473458
Considering they didnt have enough cartridge data for Revenants, Chaingunners, and Viles, it makes some sense

Pic related got an amazing upgrade though

>>275469376
>playing smooth doom with d64 sprites and sounds
my dick
brb literally going to play it now

>>275469712
this
shotguns are the fucking bomb when you feel like it's just a long chunk of metal hurling lead a medium length distance away. basically the more phallic the shotgun the better

>>275473120
doom 64 was legitimately terrifying, the environments were so god damn unsettling.

doom 3 was jumpscares: the game, and pitch black dark ooo so spooky

>>275473672
>Doom64EX would get updated so that we can properly mod it.
this, ive been fucking spoiled shitless by the doom modding community. im holding off until i can get smooth weapon animations as well as cocking for the shotguns before i go through a whole playthrough

>>275473672
after playing brutal doom, painkiller compilation this shotgun looks like fucking dogshit