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Can we talk about how great this game is? Like, I'm really

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Can we talk about how great this game is?

Like, I'm really blown away by just how well crafted this game is. It's one of the most complete games I've played in a long time.
I mean it's got everything I wanted. Challenge, decent story, exploration, great weapon selection and even the graphics and music feel well suited to the setting.

It's fantastic, really. I wish I'd played this sooner. Has the guy made any games other than Cave Story because I need to play them.
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I want to fuck Sue.
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>>275435290
What's there to say?
I wouldn't call it perfect or flawless, I just can't really think of anything wrong with it.

It's clearly something made with care by someone who took their time to get everything how they wanted it.
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>>275435290
Ika-chan. It's similar graphically but is about a squid swimming around. very short. not similar in tone at all.

as far as I know that's all he's done so far.
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>>275436073
That's kind of depressing. I know he's re released Cave Story like three different times. How's the 3DS version? It looks a little ugly.
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You're about 5 years late to discuss this game in earnest.
>>275436272
To say "he" has re-released it is a bit inaccurate. It's more like, he gave Nicalis the right to re-release it, and had no involvement himself. I think this was a good idea, as it spread the game about and probably financially helped him out.
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Looks up Kero shooter. I think that's what its called.

Keto or kero. Whatever you hear frogs say in animu
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>>275436073

He's also done Kero Blaster, which is a level based side scrolling shooter. It's really good, it's basically a more action oriented version of Cave Story, but the gameplay feels more refined.

Music is fucking amazing too.
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>>275436517
>>275436676
Awesome. I'm definitely gonna check this out.
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Cave Story has the best final level i've ever seen.

>Welcome to hell
>Little angels start attacking you
>GOD TIER MUSIC
>It has a very decent difficulty
>You need to use almost everything you learned throughout the game, specially the booster
>The villain story is revealed while you advance in map

God, this game is amazing.
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>>275437029
It would be MUCH better if there was a save before the final boss. Difficulty aside, repeating Hell over and over simply isn't fun, and it's pretty much guaranteed that the final boss is gonna beat you a few times.
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>>275437142
This is why I've never been able to beat it

>tfw I was never able to save Curly
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>>275435290
Yeah, I love how if you go to check on the doctor when he falls into a pit right in front of you it prevents you from getting the good ending and saving curly with absolutely no indication that trying to help him is a bad thing to do, or any reason whatsoever to think that.

Truly perfectly crafted.
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Didn't Nicalis completely screw Pixel over and pretty much stole Cave Story from him?

I know Pixel wanted to make a Cave Story prequel
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>>275437402
Get a load of this weak willed robot.
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>>275437402
>mfw I was able to beat hell after 12 hours of trying
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>>275437527
You're not supposed to get the good ending the first time.
There's the hint near the end of the game that tells you.
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>>275437949
not him, but what is the hint? I can't remember
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>>275435290
>Challenge
only in the last areas.
>exploration
???
you go through linear levels in a set order. Just because they're connected together through teleporters doesn't really warrant the use of the word "exploration".

But yeah, good game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWRKyS-GxtY
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>>275438230
In the house where there's a save you can read about booster's plans for an improved boot thing.
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I agree, there's just something really nice about the entire thing, maybe not perfect but damn if it felt like it, it definitely satisfied and beyond

Pixel is still my example of indie devs doing things right, guy just spent 5 years of his own free time and made a polished product, no early access nor kickstarter back then, not like he needed it, and then he released it for fucking free which is crazy considering how good it is
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>>275435605
ditto
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>>275438284
>Cave Story Wii (EU)
Jesus fucking christ anon what are you doing, I wanted to live on not knowing how badly they butchered some songs
That is NOT jenka 2, its missing all the funk in the original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVdxetv9wsM&hd=1
at least 3D didn't fuck it up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6-IjpGzVBQ&hd=1
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>>275438230
>>275438431
>If I can just hold out long enough to finish it...
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Why is Curly such a good character.

I'm not trying to say she's a deep character or anything, but goddamn she's so charming and just hits all the right notes.

I can't for the life of me explain why though.
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Jesus, new musics are almost always horrible, how do they manage to fuck up so badly?
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>>275439062
>new soundtrack
>horrible
Are you fucking kidding me?
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>Bittrip runner got a trophy in Smash 4
>Cave Story got nothing

WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK
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>>275435290
Check the Momodora series next OP.
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>>275437901
>mfw I beat Balos on my 4th try on normal difficulty
>I still can't beat dustforce
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>>275439146
Pretty sure he meant the new music, not the remastered ones.
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>>275438739
DannyB's version (the CS3D) of the soundtrack is the most soulless in my eyes. He just arranged the originals with different instruments (thus kinda ruining the chiptune aspect) without really trying anything different. Even if you don't think highly of the arranges first heard in the Wii version at least they tried with those.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWCCOnTXN48
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>>275439146
let's get something straight, if by "new" you're referring to the in-game soundtrack with the label "new" as opposed to classic or remastered, you need to get your ears, checked cause that shit sucks
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>>275439008
That describes almost all of Cave Story, did pixel use fairy dust to make everything just right?

Also, for as much as running hell is called Curly's theme, labyrinth fight will always be what makes me think of her, that section was awesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SgBffK9Phg&hd=1
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>>275439157
>cave story will never get good representation anywhere ever

fuck man, it's one of my favorite games of all time.
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>>275439358
>>275439465
Are you talking about the Wii version or the PC version or what
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>>275438739
holy shit this is the first time I've heard anything besides the original
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how many versions have y'all pplayed/bought?

I have:
Cave story original freeware version (though I ner passed this version
Cave story plus
Cave story 3d
Cave story eshop version

I can't get enough of this game. M hoping they port kero blaster to the 3ds.
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>>275439761
are you posting from mobile or something?

anyways, i played and beat freeware cave story and bought plus on steam. still trying to beat hell on hardmode. jesus fucking christ it's hard
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>>275439761
Played if as freeware first, have it on Wii, 3DS (eshop download, not 3D) and CS+ on Steam.
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>>275439761
1) Original freeware on PC
2) Homebrew version on PSP
3) Plus version on PC
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>>275439442
It may be soulless and not necessarily anything of note, but it sure as hell sounds better than the Wii soundtrack. You can try and experiment all you want but if the end result is still shit compared to the lazy versions I won't give it a pass just cause you did something different.
I really have no idea what they were thinking, the remixes don't fit the tone of any of the originals, that gravity is NOT the intense boss theme I remember, at least 3D kept the feel
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The reason Cave Story is so good is because it was made by one guy who
>Designed the game from the ground up in a custom programming language he developed himself
>Wrote all the music in a program he designed himself
>Wrote the entire script
>Drew every sprite asset
>Released the game after 5 years of development time for absolutely free
Pixel is pretty much the greatest indie dev there's ever been
And probably ever will be
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>>275435290

Now go playing Metroid Fusion.
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>>275435747
The movement is way too floaty. My only complaint.
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>>275436439
>I think this was a good idea, as it spread the game about and probably financially helped him out.

Apparently Nicalis completely shat on Pixel by buying off the rights to it dirt cheap(apparently like $200) and not giving him a single cent from the sales.
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>>275440252
>Pixel is pretty much the greatest indie dev there's ever been
>And probably ever will be
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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>>275440330
Post proof
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>>275439761
Started with freeware, got 3D since I got a 3DS after the first price drop, and I later got plus in some humble bundle but never installed or played it
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>>275440383
Alright, name an Indie dev who would be better than Amaya.
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>>275440330
If that's true, Nicalis is a dick.
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Yeah I'm on mobile right know and not bothering to check the errors/false spellchecks

I have never beaten hard mode, I beat balls on normal and easy but hard is a huge pain in the ass since I'm pretty careless.
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>>275440492
BREAKING NEWS
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>>275440252
>in a custom programming language he developed himself
fucking why?
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>>275440538
I was gonna buy 1001 spikes because it looked fun, but if Nicalis is a dick who screwed over Pixel, no chance in hell of that.

Sucks that he did the Rebirth version of Isaac, he probably got tons of cash from that.
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>>275440417
I don't have it, you can just write an email to Pixel and ask him directly.
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>>275440252
The really great part is that despite seeing his game fucking explode all over the world, Pixel still remained humble and just wanted to thank everyone for enjoying his game.

Also the game has it's 10th anniversary in exactly a week. No, really, look it up
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>>275440470
The two guys that made achron.
They don't wear frogsuits but they made a better game.
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>>275440470
Konjak has all the potential to be amazing, but he dicks around on twitter and is way too involved in social happenings so he ends up being a nigga on top of his games taking forever to release.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfISI9biqvw
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>>275439594
pc version (cave story +) has 3 soundtracks, here's the title themes for reference

>"new" title song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrsumAFaWxE

>"remastered" title song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlYHQDsA13U

I think we can all agree the "new" soundtrack, which sounds like it's the only one on the wii version, sucks big fat donkey balls. I personally think some of the remasterd tracks are pretty good with the wind temple easily being the best of all remastered tracks
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>>275435290
ikachan and keroblaster
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>>275440470
He's disagreeing with "ever will be", so saying that at some point in time someone will come along and outdo him
Which is still pretty hopeful thinking, but you never know, it may be you or me, only if we try though

>>275440739
I'm glad I'm not the only one who knows and likes konjak, but I'll be dammed if he doesn't take his sweet sweet time
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>>275440643
Why don't you look at the end product? Cave Story turned out as one of the best indie games of all time. More effort will always make a better game.
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>>275440739
>Iconoclasts will never be released
>Whatever the fuck he's working on right now will never be released
>Whatever he works on next will never be released
If he had literally an ounce of actual commitment or work ethich he'd be goddamn amazing
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>>275440991
>More effort will always make a better game.
Bob's Game.
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>>275437142
>Hell
>Pandering to casuals with a save
it really was supposed to be Hell, faggot. And the ultimate test for the player to save Curly Brace, waifu of all time
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>>275440973
>He's disagreeing with "ever will be",
Actually I was disagreeing with both.
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>>275435290
>tfw the artist who did all that rule34 has no blog now
hold me /v/
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>>275440991
>More effort will always make a better game.
Ulillillia's mind game:
http://www.ulillillia.us/features/mindgame/mindgamehome.shtml
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>>275441107
With a save point before the final boss, the difficulty will not be increased, at all, because your health remains the same. It only removes tedium and repetition.
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>>275441184
you mean noill?
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>>275440204
Eh, I think there are some songs where it's worth it to play the game with the arranged soundtrack. Some are good and some fall short of the originals, but overall I like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBJQiSgPPis
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>>275440991
I just don't see what it could have accomplished, at least not any more than any other language could
I also imagine it must have been a massive pain in the ass
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>>275441404
yeah! do you know what's he up to now?
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>>275441509
he made a new one man
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>>275441464
He did it in C iirc, that one anon is just pulling things out his ass. Custom scripting languages? Sure, that's run of the mill stuff when you're developing your own engine, but a whole programming language? You're either mad, an actual genuine autist or both
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>>275441885
Hahahaha whoops I fucked up
My bad
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The 'shit gets harder when you die' mechanic is obnoxious
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>>275442142
when you die?
or do you mean when you get hit?
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>>275442142
Pardon?

When you die you just go back to the last save point.
Your weapon can de-level if you get hit too much though.
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POST FAVORITE CAVE STORY SONG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOK2ZJK7dO0
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>>275441885
Though, all of the other stuff is absolutely true
I just mixed up my terminology, is all
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>>275442346
Ah, yeah that's what I mean. I haven't played it in years.
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Post your best times
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>>275442142
>>275442346
I feel like if the penalty for getting hit was any less severe, then dodging would be waaaay less crucial
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>>275442424
yeezus cracks this is amazing
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>>275442619
The penalty for getting hit mostly prevents you from trying to have DPS races with the bosses.
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>>275436517
>>275436759
kero blaster

it's great
I wish it was on steam
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>>275442972
good point
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It really is inspiring. I hope to make a game as good as his one day.
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>>275442424
>>275442424
>>275442424
>>275442424
>>275442424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqrh8r-Juqw
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>>275442578
>implying I've completed Hell

...

;.;
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>>275442424
I'm just gonna leave this here
http://youtu.be/-QbgoJtU5-Q
(ignore the faggy art)
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>>275443313
Just make games.
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>>275443583
I plan to. Just taking moderate steps before I end up being overambitious.
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>>275440715

Sorry, no proof = bullshit
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I like Kero Blaster, but it's about 1/3 the length of Cave Story and is an entirely comical nonsensical storyline. Which is fine. But I still hope he goes on to make another game with the scope and story of Cave Story.
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>>275443561
>he didn't save Curly Brace

Wow. She gave you her life bubble, and you couldn't even save her.

She's dead because of you.
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>>275443313
Before Cave Story, Pixel made a game about throwing darts at seals
And another one about catching glasses before they hit the ground
Just make video games
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>>275443869
>throwing darts at seals
doe she hate seals or something
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>>275443830
>cave story
>not comical nonsense
I, uh
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>>275443787
I honestly hope its bullshit.

Not because of "HAHA ANON UR FULL OF SHIT U FAGT" but just because I have insane respect for Pixel, and I don't want bad shit to happen to the guy
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>>275444039
It had comical nonsense, but the plot was a lot more deep and had lore.

Kero Blaster's entire story and lore is just a frog that needed to clean up teleporters and cure his boss. I liked it, but again, didn't really leave you with anything after you finished. It felt like a comic strip while Cave Story felt like a novel.
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Is there a consensus on Iji?
Can it be considered close to Cave Story in quality?
Not saying it is as good
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>>275440330
I don't have proof of my claim, but last I heard was the exact opposite. That Pixel once confirmed that he got a major cut, and still gets one off every single sale.
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>>275444530
Pretty good/10
The artwork is kind of dodgy/8
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>>275441195
I've been on this site for twenty minutes and I still have no clue what it's about.
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>>275443847
That part fucking slayed me
>tfw There is no response.
>tfw the shutter closes permanently as you leave and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8hdh0UFxJk starts playing again
>tfw getting literally washed away with no chance of ever returning to the core room
>tfw the ending sequence reopens the wounds and gleefully rubs salt in them by showing a slide of the core room and Curly's abandoned body as shit's breaking apart
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>>275444530
I would say they're equally good games, actually. Both amazing.
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>>275440330
>>275444585
but why would he settle that low anyway?
Even if I were to finish a game but didn't think highly of it I would be sure as hell all that work is not worth a pathetic 200$
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>>275442424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObDV1aWOH9U
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>>275444808
when I was told there was a way to save her I was so disappointed in myself
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>>275443572
What the fuck happened to quote?
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8 days
In 8 days Cave Story will be 10 years old
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>Cave story
>Good
Educate yourselves, you subhuman feces.
http://insomnia.ac/reviews/pc/doukutsumonogatari/
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>>275445328
(no really, just ignore it)
the guys avatar is an axolotl which is apparently some weird fish-lizard thing
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>>275445578
that glows in the dark
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>>275445576
>educate myself with some tl;dr about some faggot with different opinions
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>>275444530
Alien lesbians/10
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>>275445738
if you disagree with it you literally belong in a concentration camp.
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>>275445576
>>275445931
every single sentence here is bait.
not even disputing the points, nearly every sentence is written as an insult
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>>275445576
I don't get it. He basically says it's an alright game, but because it's too easy for him he must absolutely slam it. Also because the work of one man who is not much of an artist or musician cannot possibly live up to some absurd expectation of matching the bells and whistles of a commercially made game.
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>>275445931
I'm not reading it, so I don't have to worry. Why would I read all that to try to convince myself that a game I've played and enjoyed multiple times isn't actually good? Also, it's written by a child if one of the paragraphs starts with "Fuck 'em in the ass" to people who disagree.

Actually, are you sure it's not you? You seem pretty hostile. Saying people need to get "educated" on their opinion and saying I belong in a concentration camp. Seems like a similar level of immaturity, really.

Which I'd get, on an anonymous image board. This guy actually attaches his name to this "quality journalism"
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>>275446192
In summary, he dislikes it because it's overrated. Someone who's really fucking bored and needs to start trashing a game that's been beloved by everyone for five years.

Actually, "edgy" describes it perfectly.
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>>275446192
>not much of an artist
>or musicion
How can you be this wrong
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>>275445576
Did you remember to dust that bait off after you unearthed it from its tomb?
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>>275446408
Sorry that no one changed their opinions on this game over your shitty bait article. Fuck off, Alex.
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>>275445576
Here, have a reply. I find it endlessly amusing how the only arguments Cave Story haters are capable of making is endlessly fellating a review made by some random ass dude on the internet
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>>275443572

It's unbelievable how furries, bronies and other degenerate can be so good at making music and art

This one is obviously a music guy
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>tfw you didn't save Curly
HOW COULD I HAVE KNOWN
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>>275446408
Pixel admits to being a complete amateur at both. He says that he had trouble staying on-model to his own character designs most of the time when drawing more detailed art.
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>>275446580
Figuratively what the fuck are you talking about
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Damn, to think we almost had a thread free of shitposting.
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>>275446870
I think only porn could save the thread at this point.
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Its been almost a year since I played this and it still irks me that I never saved curly and got the best end. Fuck. I can't remember the last time a game really stuck on me like that.
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>>275446870
where's the shitposting though
the "review" that got posted and you're all cowering in front of isn't nearly as negative as you seem to think, anyway.
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>>275447224
The game is free, man.
Replay it and do what you need to get the best ending. Hell is brutal, but getting the best end after all the work felt really rewarding to me.
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tell me /v/, did you take the machine gun the first time?
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>>275447590
Of course
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>>275447590
Yeah. On your first run, how can you turn down a straight upgrade to the Polar Star?

on my best ending run i went with the Spur though. is it possible to get best ending with machine gun?
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>>275447590
No, the way Curly just casually drops a question like that right near the start of the game when using the Polar Star is still totally viable made it very obvious to me that you can trade it for better shit later on.
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>>275447837
>trading the polar star
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>>275447590
machine gun is my waifu
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>>275447819
It's possible to get the best ending with any weapon combo
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>>275447590
A better question is if anyone ever used the Snake. God, I tried it once for shits and giggles and it was horrible.
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>>275447951
This nigger gets it
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>>275447949
Well, I did end up getting the Spur and that's technically not a trade, you're right.
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Can we talk about how great this game is?

Like, I'm really blown away by just how well crafted this game is. It's one of the most complete games I've played in a long time.
I mean it's got everything I wanted. Challenge, decent story, exploration, great weapon selection and even the graphics and music feel well suited to the setting.

It's fantastic, really. I wish I'd played this sooner.
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>go to console
>open gate
>open gate 4
>go back to console
>lower elevator
>open blast door
>get winch
>no savepoint
>die
>repeat

and fuck that red line area, you wouldn't know the first time that the good ending requires NOT talking to an npc that gives you an item to make that jump easier
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>>275448072
I like to use it for hell, that's about it. It'd probably be super convenient in hard mode for some stages.
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>>275447819
Some of the more hardcore speedrunning strategies actually rely on abusing the Snake's ability to pass through walls
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I want to ejaculate in toroko on her most fertile day, impregnate her, marry her, and have millions of babies!
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>>275448072
Once it's fully-upgraded it's basically a super-convenient Polar Star that can only be stopped by more enemies.

Only real thing that sucks about it is you can no longer reach below with the Fireball.

Nemesis is best gun.
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>haven't played cave story in a while
>open up a new save
>this fucking spike
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>>275448574
But she's dead. You can do that to Sue, though.
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>>275448574
But that's necrophilia.

...oh, and bestiality.
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>>275448574
I wanna shoot off into her face after she goes berserk with the red flowers
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>>275440252
He relied on the patriarchal male dominated CS classes to get those skills and there is a reason women can't do the same.

Men won't let them make games and give them away for free.
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>>275448784
you killed her
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>>275447108
Fuck you, we don't need porn of Undertale and we certainly don't need porn of this.
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>>275442424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVzC6WZImGY
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>>275448743
My first encounter with those spikes is one of those memories that comes back every couple years and is still embarrassing every time.
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>>275448784
But she's a child. And a nigger.

>>275448915
She can survive getting destroyed during the Zombie Core fight.
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>>275448980
Good taste.
But really, the whole OST is great.
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I beat it on Dreamcast for some reason
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Oh man, posting in this thread just made me want to replay Cave Story+.


I'm gonna do hard. Wish me luck
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Why hasn't there been a free indie game as good as Cave Story?
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>>275449125
toroko?
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>>275448743
Just did the same.
pls no.
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>>275439761
Wii Ware version, 3DS eShop version, + off of another presons steam account, Freeware version, and then a port made to the Dreamcast.
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>>275449316
luck won't save you
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>>275448784
>>275448790
>>275448810
Not canon. There must be a secret ending where the best girl lives.

...right?
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>>275449156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtkECyiRExE

remastered one is better by far
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>>275447819
It was worth a try.
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>>275448743
>>275449397
Huh. I just realized that The First Cave and the First Room of Hell are pretty similar. Like, you can see the spike placement and the down-left funnel thing look similar.

i swear to god if pixel did that intentionally he's a fucking genius
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>>275447590
yes
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>>275449801
it's just bookend design
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>>275449316
You're fucked.
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>>275449770
I like the original music better. Remastered lost much of the charme for some reason.
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>>275448743
I remember the first time I played Plus, I went on Hard since I already beat the game once, and I died on that spike both ways. And when I came back.
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>>275440193
My nigger.
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>>275440643
That anon is exaggerating. Pretty much all games use some kind of Domain-Specific Language to simplify logic scripting (Lua, Python, etc.) only Pixel designed his own. Most of the game engine was still programmed in (I'm assuming) C++.
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>decide to replay Cave Story today
>take a break and go to /v/
>this is the first thread I see
Sometimes I really love you guys.
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>>275448743
>look at the image
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WEC5AGw820 starts immediately playing in my head
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>>275449346
No, Sue.
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>>275449316
oh god where's the heart container
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>>275450690
WELCOME TO HARD MODE MOTHERFUCKER
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>>275449665
Well there's always that popular 4th-ending mod that let's you save everybody, and has plenty of closure.
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>>275450528
where the fuck did this come from?
>>275450690
lolhardmode
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>>275450528
Do you see that portrait at the end of the game? I can't remember.
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>First time playing Cave Story
>get to Monster X without a single heartcontainer
>Why is this game so hard?
I was stupid.

>>275450690
Why dos Cave Story+ look so bad?
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>>275450842
wait nevermind don't tell me, I'm sure it's from the fourth ending
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>>275450842
Unused dialogue sprite from the game.

You still see her as a human during the credits anyways.
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>>275450690
No, anon, now is the time for you to truly get good. All the way to hell.
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>>275450951
awww...
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>>275450749
>>275450842
>>275451001
;-;

>>275450894
if you're talking about how quote looks it's just because of hard mode.
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>>275450847
See >>275450951

There's other unused shit people dug up too, like photo shot with what may be the scientist who designed both Quote and Balrog
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>>275450894
>Monster X with 3 HP
Let's not talk about it. I'm suffering here.
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so just what the fuck are these doing here again?
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>>275451164
Nah, I'm talking about the whole graphics, they doubled the resosution without really adding much detail to it. Makes it looks somewhat bland.
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>>275451164
>if you're talking about how quote looks it's just because of hard mode.
I don't know why they decided to change his design for the hard mode. It triggers me.
(shit is 2hard4me anyway)
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>you will never play the beta version of Cave Story
Looked pretty cool, too
I think a lot of the design elements were inherited by Kero Blaster
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>>275451267
foreshadowing n' shit
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>>275451174
*shots, fuck

>>275451267
Arthur was probably fucking around with them to go fight the Red Demon thing. The same one that kills him.
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>>275451267
Red flowers? Dead red flowers?
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>>275435290
i want to sniff and suck on curly's used panties.
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>>275451264
God that looks terrible. Like for most things they just applied a 2x Super Eagle filter and called it a day.
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>>275451267
Arthur used red flowers to fight off the red demon, allegedly
Pretty much the most boss shit of all time, even though he totally died
Oh hey, that sounds almost exactly like another character
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>>275451375
>beta version
I'm sorry?
about to enter egg coridor
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>>275451421
>>275451465
>>275451521
>>275451606
Pixel said somewhere that the reason King is a good fighter and has red eyes is because he ate red flowers at some point, but they didn't kill him because he cooked them or something. So I'm guessing Arthur did the same thing.
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>First time playing Cave Story
>Beat the game (no hell) with booster 1.0 and machine gun
>Go online and find out about booster 2.0
Man this game pushed my limits.
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I was playing Cave Store + on my laptop. I was almost near to the end and then... niggers stole my laptop.
I've never touched the game after that.
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>>275451549
so, clean panties?
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>>275435605
That's not how you spell Choko
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>>275450316
CS was done mostly in C++, with Pixel creating his own scripting (TSC) to handle events, the inventory, map interactivity, etc.
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>>275451723
They'd probably have oil stains on them
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>>275451656
Just get the free version and beat it
Best ending or bust
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>>275440193
Same here.
I beat Ballos on PC, I lost on Ballos last form on PSP and CS+
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>>275451608
There are a couple screenshots you can find if you dig a little of a beta version of Cave Story
Mini Balrogs as enemies and shit, money and shops, a bunch of shit
If you asked Pixel about it years ago he'd tell you he was never going to release it because reasons
There's also one of those mini programs you could probably find, the one that plays the music for the game? The beta's music player was released with like 5 songs on it, two of which are also in the main game. I think Gestation and White.
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>>275451465
Woops, forgot it was the Doctor that kills him. Arthur just scared Red away.

Already starting to forget my Cave lore.

>>275451638
Ah, figured. I at least remember that with King.
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You're really really late, OP. It's my favorite game ever.
Still haven't beaten Ballos. That shit's ridiculous. Too hard IMO but some people like that shit.

>>275437402
Saving Curly is easy.
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>>275444530
Fucking great game, ugly as sin but filled with as much TECHNOLOGY as an MGS game.
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>>275444803
How did you even get here without knowing who Ulillillia is?
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>>275439761

Played and beat on Original PC release, CS+, PSP and WiiWare. Need to ger 3D at some point just for the extra level.
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>get map
>"So long as you always maintain a sense of exploration, you will find a way out. That is my hope."

oh god why am i crying over the first part of cave story
thank you daisuke amaya for such an amazing game
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I still haven't beaten it
Misery's okay, the Doctor's embarrassingly simple but the goddamn core keeps on fucking me up
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>>275451997
White isn't in the game. Where can I find the beta OrgView? I assume you mean OrgView by that mini program.
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>>275451997
Here, this is one of the screenshots from the beta
Actually, >>275451174 mentioned this one in particular earlier

>>275452406
White is in the game, you unlock it on the title screen by beating hell in under 3 or 4 minutes
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>>275452406
Here, I found the music
http://www.cavestory.org/download/beta-music.php
Meant to actually include it in my first post, whoops
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>>275435290
>Plays it on Hard Mode
>Instant death on almost anything
>Make it to Monster X
....
Could they have least added a save point befofe this part, so I don't have to fight the roaches over and over and over and over again, just to beat this thing?!?!
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>>275452073
Ballos isn't that hard in my opinion, I always had more trouble with Monster X of all things. It's the journey there that makes it hard
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HELL IS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE
I'VE GONE THROUGH THIS GAME LIKE 3 TIMES ALREADY AND EVERY TIME I QUIT AT BALOS BECAUSE HE'S SUCH A BIG FAT CUNT
NOW I GOTTA GO THROUGH IT ALL AGAIN JUST TO FAIL ONCE MORE
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>>275452376
on a less feels-y note, there are still no heart containers.
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If anyone's interested I could stream it. Just downloaded, first time playing so I suck pretty bad right now.
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>>275452749
do it so we can have something after the thread dies
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>>275452606
Oh wow, that's cool.
Thanks.
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>>275452406
And here's the actual orgviewer itself
http://homepage2.nifty.com/rochet/binaries/dou_bgm_old.zip
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>>275452476
Heh, reminds me of Megaman.

Looks like Puu's would've played a bigger role too. Guess maybe Balrog was a robot designed by them?
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>>275452665
I never had a problem with Monster X. Thought it was pretty easy.
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I think it's over rated as fuck

I don't see what the big deal is about this game
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>>275452749
>first time playing
Close this thread RIGHT THE FUCK NOW. Don't get your ass spoiled and don't read up on any pro strats, it's really far better when you get to experience the whole thing by yourself instead
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>>275452935
It's perfect
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>>275453134
perfectly bland
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>>275452932
On hard mode? You kidding? Maybe its because I'm playing the 3ds version... Yes I bought the 3ds version...
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This game was beloved on pre-2008 /v/ like you fuckers wouldn't believe. Ignore anyone who calls it indie shovelware, it's such hard proof of underagedness it hurts.
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>>275452841
Done
www-twitch-tv/relaxingthought
Not sure if it's working or not.

>>275453034
Eh, I'm just gonna stream, I won't give in to any influence.
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>>275452749
Jack dies
The main character's name is Curly Brace
The doctor did nothing wrong
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Why aren't other indie devs as cool as Pixel?
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>>275453256
Fuck I forgot about this
Fucking hilarious
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>>275453197
Your mom's perfectly bland lol
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>>275435290
>challenge
Only in the true end.

I mean it's a great game but you can't say it's challenging just because it has one long gauntlet at the end.
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>>275442424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30JZylPUmz0

Can't really say why, but this was always my favorite. Even used it with this pic to make a custom Screensaver back in the day.

Also made some shitty DeviantArt poem with it at one point
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I think what I love most about Cave Story is how it never tries to be anything more than what it is. Hell, if anything, it's overly humble. Just read pixel's original description of the game:

>Cave Story is a jumping-and-shooting action game.
>Explore the caves until you reach the ending.
>You can also save your game and continue from where you left off.

Speaking of which, fuck, whenever I think of Cave Story I start thinking of shii's hosting of it and other games by pixel and about shii's site in general, and I get sad thinking about how much shit was lost when he took down his site. Lots of history there, just gone forever. And a couple of enjoyable manga he translated. I remember one involved insects and space travel or some weird shit. Something about basically cloning people from lightyears away via bugs in space, maybe? Weird shit, man. Can't even remember the name.
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>>275453408
you're dad is perfectly bland
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>>275452932
I don't really understand the deal with Monster X
The first time I played, it took me three days straight to beat it
On every subsequent playthrough I kill it in one try
What the hell
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OP here.

Glad we could have this thread.
Hell is still making my anus bleed though. This boost right here killed me almost as much as the fucking angels in the collapsing room did.
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>>275453540
Monster X made me quit the game my first time playing. Later I started up from the begininning and beat him on like the second try.
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>>275441509
http://spooky-zetta-bot.tumblr.com/
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Holyfuuuck I finally did it. Fuck hard mode.

I recall having to fight Balrog right after this, is there a save point before I meet him? Or do I need to go back and go into a fit of rage if I get killed by a simple enemy?
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>>275453540
It's figuring out how to get used to him AND what you're supposed to even be hitting that's hard. Then after that, learning how to fight off those fucking fishhead missiles.

>>275453640
I've never been able to beat Hell. Got as far as fighting Ballos, but am otherwise usually frustrated with those damn cherub-gauntlets.
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>>275453910
There's a save point, but you can miss the jump to it and fuck yourself
So good luck
Also the red line is a jumping spot indicator
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>>275453910
It's immdeiately followed by the Booster pit.
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>>275453910
I honestly don't see how hard mode is possible. There are way too many bosses in this game where you are literally bound to take a hit at some point.

The percentage of people who have the achievement on steam is consistent with the percentage seen in achievements that are only possible through abusing Steam Achievement Manager.
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>>275453495
Mah nigga. I thought I was the only one to prefer this to Moonsong
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>>275442424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h5gRnY9Gt0
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>>275453221
Hard mode is bullshit though. The game was not meant to be played like that. Just staying at 3 hearts is not how you make a hard mode.
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>>275454115
3hp runs in cave story were a thing before CS+ and HARD MODE
someone did a 3hp cave story let's play a few years ago, actually
and by a few years i mean more than half a decade obviously
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>>275454717
As someone who's done multiple playthroughs of the game I'm seriously paranoid that luck plays a large factor in a 3HP run.
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>>275435290
Op, seeing your post fills me with a warm happiness I had forgotten. Cave Story is one of my favorite games, and an absolute charming delight. I'm glad you could play it, whether the original or the "official" port which I have mixed feelings about.
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>>275447590
>>275447819

I didn't, I figured if I did then Curly would die later on because of then having a lesser means of protecting herself.

>mfw she died anyway ;_;
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>>275454841
It does.
But hey, if you're not at least kind of lucky then you're fucked in life anyway.
Grit your teeth and pucker up.
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>>275453495
This is my favorite song. All the music is god tier but this one really gets me.
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>>275454075
>>275454098
Thanks guys, it's all good now. Can't wait to get stuck at the core later.

>>275454841
Most bosses have patterns. (Like Toroko's. Damn that was the easiest and most fun boss to learn). Monster X though, those torpedo fish are annoying as hell.
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>>275442424
I fucking hate what they did to the music in the 3D and + soundtracks.
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>>275455129
and they require a ton of luck* Missed the point of that reply for a second there. whoops.
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>>275448072

I could not beat hell without the Snake for the better part of 10 years. I don't even understand why, but any time I ran with the Spur I just got fucked endlessly in Hell, but when I used the Snake I always ended up completing it.
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>>275455129
Oh hey, speaking of Toroko's boss pattern
Did you know that if you fight her with only the Fireball, she will spam her "jump across the room and throw a block" move repeatedly and never break out of that loop? No idea why.
Though I forget whether that only happens if the fireball is your only weapon.
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Anyone interested in watching someone play cave story for their first time on hardmode? I might have to get a lightweight streaming thing first though, if anybody knows any
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>>275455614
OBS is really popular
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>>275435290
Thank you OP i had forgotten how much i love this game
i might replay it and actually finish hell now
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>>275453504
Was it not backed up?
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again with the weird bullshit in houses
seriously, who put this here?
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>>275456154
It was always there
They just built around it because they couldn't move it
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>>275456154
Did you touch it first time around?

I did
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>>275456154
It's to make it fair to the player when you encounter one. If you didn't know about it and died it wouldn't be fair.
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>>275444808

Does anyone have the cap of the guy who never learned that there was a way to save Curly until years later, then got to go back and beat Hell?

Honestly, that strikes me as the absolute best way to experience Cave Story.

You get invested in the story, care for the characters, but Curly sacrifices herself for you and all you get is the bittersweet normal ending. You wish that things could have been different, that you could have done something, but you accept that that's just the way the story goes. Then later, years later, after you've moved on, maybe you're feeling nostalgic. So you boot the game back up. You think you've already beaten the game, so you're just fucking around and exploring. You get to the part where you see the Professor falling but realize that you can make the jump without the booster. You think all you've found is a neat little skip, but from there you find the tow rope and realize that this wasn't here before. Then, after the core fight, just when you're getting ready to relive Curly's sacrifice, you realize what you can do.

I personally had this spoiled for me, but if I hadn't, this shit would have been once in a lifetime.
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>>275453640

So, is there a way to do this without just landing on the small spike, taking the damage but refilling the boost power?
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So, anon...
You got the lipstick, right?
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>>275455443
Yeah that's exactly how I fought her. It's the same with all the other weapons, but the fireball's better to use, it was the best boss-killer for a while at the start.
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>>275456336
>touching it before you save
fuck
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>>275456154
and now the rest of town is through a fireplace!
where does it end!
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>>275456154
Clearly it's so at night, if anything creep over to his bed, he can just jackrabbit-kick it into the pit.

Just like how Chako has to guard a window with fucking fire.
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>>275456461
fire your booster in short bursts.
if you hold it for more than a half second, you're not going to make it
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I liken Cave Story's world to that of Dark Souls where you have to fill in a lot of bits in order to figure it certain things out. I really love stuff like that.
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>>275456461
Yeah, just use less boost on those "stairs" that lead down to it. You can get down those with just a quick tap on the boost for each step.
Basically, 3 quick taps to the left in a certain rhythm, and then you can boost to the right and then up onto the platform without taking any damage.
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>>275456485
Yes. I didn't know how I got it until I looked it up. It was totally by accident.
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>>275456630
Yeah, same here. It's a nice, subtler-Bioshock storytelling.
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>>275456485
u bet
captcha: species rymmin
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I want Pixel to make a game that uses the booster from the very beginning. Having to time the boosts in Hell was the only part about that level I liked.

I need to play Kero Blaster but I can't.
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>>275453231
This is probably among the first games to even get Indies into a positive, mainstream light.

Not that it was meant to lead up towards Depression Quest, or Gone Home, or Meme Run.
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>>275457113
Are you SURE it wasn't?
Are you SURE Pixel didn't plan this?
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>>275455752
guess nobody's watching me get shat on
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I really love this game and I recommend it to anybody who wants to check out a great free game.

One complaint though:
Shitty choices you cannot tell the consequences of on your first playthrough serving no other purpose than to make you replay the game. That is some Mass Effect faggotry right there.
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>>275457362
i think someone is already streaming
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>>275457679
I think he's doing easy/normalmodo
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>>275457465
whats wrong with playing the game again?
don't you like fun anon?
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>>275457914
Exactly. I should play because I find the game find and not because something is conditioning me to do it.
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>>275456085
Some of it's backed up, but unfortunately most of it appears to be gone, or only backed up in private or obscure locations. Damn shame about shii--he contributed a lot to the internet, held all that information there, and nobody even remembers him. Though, based on what he used to say about things like the right to vanish and such I'm pretty sure he's rather keep it that way. It's just a shame that history was lost and his contributions will likely be forgotten.
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>>275449665

Not happening. People have combed the whole code, looking for any glimmer of another secret ending. There's nothing.

She's dead, Anon. Time to move on.
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>>275447590
Frankly anyone who got the best booster and the spur first time around read a walkthough

Why would anyone refuse what at first sight a straight up upgrade from the pea shooter you have, why would anyone consciously ignore doc booster if he didn't know he was going to get a reward if he didn't?
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>>275445576
Oh god, this fucking guy.
I don't know why, but it's like he's made it his life's mission to hate indie game forever and write autistic reviews about how bad they are.
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>>275442424

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fev-BBnLlaA&index=13&list=PL0A12ED38862DB0F5
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>>275457069

Speaking of Kero Blaster/Pink Hour, wasn't there an endling in PH that said something along the line of "This will be explained in the full game" or some such? Did that ever get explained in KB? I beat KB twice Once on each mode and never saw anything more about it.
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>Monster X took a whole year to beat
>Balrog only took one try

I guess I could use the change.
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>>275457069
>I need to play Kero Blaster but I can't.

What's stopping you? It's like 8 bucks if you want to buy it. Surely you can scrounge up that much.
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>>275458491
>>275457069
It's also easy to pirate. Took a while to get piratable but it's out there now.
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Cave story is perfect.
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>>275458462
How have I never heard of this game? Why do I have to be a member on this site to play it?
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>>275458491
>>275457069
>>275459306
Well there you go. Cheap to buy, easy to pirate, not an exceptionally demanding game to run--what's the issue?
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>>275458467
>actually playing CS+
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>>275459534
>pirating the only game that pixel's ever asked money for
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>>275458467
Makes sense. Monster X is one of the more difficult bosses in hard mode. Good luck with the Core, you poor poor soul.
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