>Be playing Smash with friend >Mega button spammer casual

git gud

>>274368138
Kill him you can never go wrong with a screwdriver to the neck.

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>>274368221
here's your reply

Items are fun. I enjoy items. Whats wrong with items? Why do you hate items? Why can't we just play with items on some of the time? I think you need to leave your prejudices against items behind. Items are great. Items are wonderful. Let's all play with items on.

If you are better then just school him and show him how bad he is. If you're not then stop being a faggot and have some fun with him

>>274368138
You sound just as autistic not allowing items or letting him play the charscters he wants.mSmash bros is a party game and nothing more.

>>274368138
>can't beat someone who doesn't shield
>can't beat ZSS spammers
People who banwagon onto Top Tier characters almost always have horrible Smash play and shouldn't even be hard to deal with. Honestly, Charizard is a much better character for scrubs who want to feel good at the game...

set your wii on fire then throw it off your roof if you can't beat a cuntard mindless button masher

>>274368320
>Grab game strong, nice 60% lead
>Clear winner in skill
>Wind gun drops
>Brushes me off stage
>Smart bomb drops
>+50% for pressing A
>Max Tomato drops
>He's back at 0%

items are fun

>Plays a casual game casually

Wow, what a piece of shit.

>>274368138
If you can't bear a shit ZSS even with items on, you aren't much better than he is

Smash 4 is the first game in which I haven't enjoyed items, because some of the new ones are just fucking stupidly overpowered; in fact, most of the new items are pretty much guaranteed KOs which is infuriating considering how frequently they pop up even on the normal setting.

I generally turn some off and maybe set the frequency to low, but I still play with items on unless I'm training for For Glory.

You're still a fucking idiot though, and you should git gud. Even with all the shitty new items you can still win if you're not fucking terrible.

Just beat him you fucking faggot.

>Good player cant beat someone who is just pressing random buttons
Why are fighting games so shit

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>>274368412
>People still insist Smash is a casual game

>>274368138
>Playing with a friend
>Every time he hits with an aerial or a smash he says "Get fucked"
>He keeps saying it over and over
>I'm beating his ass, but every time he says it he acts as if he is in a commanding lead and is smug as shit
>I politely ask him to not say it
>"LOL YOU MAD BRO? YOU MAD? LOL YOU SO MAD!"
>Continue to beat his ass and just stop talking
>He keeps saying "Get fucked"
>Eventually after he loses 20 games in a row he says he is sick of smash 4
>Asks to play Mario Kart 8
>We play and he is a completely fine amiable guy, just like he normally is

Why does Smash turn him into such a meme spouting faggot? He literally never acts like that ASIDE from when we play Smash. In other Vidya he is fine, cracking jokes, and having a good time.

>>274368410
The wind gun is the only problem because it can KO at 0%.
Everything else can be dealt with easily by, you know, fucking dodging it, or beating him to the tomato.

>>274368138
>I just walked out as soon as he picked Zero Suit Samus.
sounds like you really do need to git gud

>>274368475
>>274368467
>>274368425

>implying I can't beat him
I can, it's fucking boring to play against though, and just mildly infuriating at times when he starts screeching "oooh wombo combo" when he throws a smart bomb at me.

>>274368410
>not literally playing for fun

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>>274368482

>Smash
>Fighting game

>>274368482
because he's not actually good.

>>274368412

Sounds to me like he plays a casual game insufferably.

>playing party games and complaining about normies

>>274368549
You made it sound like you lose to him and he brags about it.
He's a cunt though, yeah. Play with other people. With items.

>>274368482
doesn't work in real fighting games but a casual shit party game like smash that passes itself off as a fighting game, then sure, it's possible

>>274368498
Do 9.0 without losing a life.

>>274368549
what do you expect from a nintendo game?
Casual bros with skill?

As somebody who has barely played any smash games and now has the new one sitting a metre away from me about to plug in my wii u and main captain falcon, what should I take advice on?

>>274368750
Side-B all day, everyone loves it when you do that. Ignore your A button.

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>>274368517
I have a friend like that.

He turns into an ape whenever we play any fighting game (inb4 HURR >SMASH >FIGHTER). He says shit like "You suck" every time he gets a punish, or when he gets a read he'll say "Read, easy". He'll be losing constantly, and I'll be about to get a perfect and he'll do a wake up Shoryuken and hit me and be like "Read, bitch" in the most serious way ever, and when he does win he acts like he is way better than me and recounts how he just beat me like its a war story. "Mmm... yeah, I saw you going for the jump in so I did my anti air cause I read that, and then I knew you were gonna go for something else, so I did another Shoryuken and got you. It was a pretty easy match once I got a few reads in"

However, when we're NOT playing fighting games he is awesome. We can be playing other competitive games where the goal is to win and he is a great guy, but fighting games do something to his brain.

>>274368750
don't play it like a fighting game because it isn't one

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>>274368817
>>274368682
>>274368630
>>274368619
>>274368574

>Thinking Smash isn't a fighting game
>Thinking Smash Is a casual game

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>>274368857

>Smash
>Competitive
>Fighting game

Me and my friends usually complement a good/nice looking kill.
I like to announce my kills though.

>>274368138
>how dare he play to have fun

>friend only uses duckhunt spamming keep away moves or plays spams the gyriod shit and runs with the pot
Jesus fuck the gyriod spam and dash with pot.

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>>274368897
>Ignorance this large
>Implying Melee isn't the most popular fighting game played competitively

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>>274368947

>Smash
>Competitive
>Fighting game

Sounds like you're losing against him. If it is a good competitive game then surely you could find a way to counter his bullshit.

That's how I got decent at blazblue anyways.

>Guy finds attack that works against me
>Guy uses same attack over and over again hoping for one button win
>Learn how to counter attack easily thanks to lots of practice
>Guy switches to next one button win
>Rinse and repeat

Yeah items are just random bullshit, but that works for you as well. Most of them you can dodge anyways.

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ITT:

>"Oh boy I'm gonna show OP so hard"
>type git gud
>captcha
>enter
>rub jew hands together
>close thread

>>274368947
>melee
>most popular game played competetively

Both Marvel 3 and Street Fighter 4 shit on it and those games aren't even that good.

Man, I'm so glad all the people calling Smash 4 a casual game have done 9.0 without losing a life.

>>274368930
>gyriod shit and runs with the pot
Is there any way to get around this? Just try jumping over them or something?

>>274368410

>Disable Wind Gun
>Disable healing items, or at least the strong ones
>Disable bombs

Problem solved

>Friend uses cheap character
>duckhunt, lil mac, villager
>he always a sore winner
>use the character he uses to show him how little skill it takes
Fuck TNT from Duck Cunt.

>>274369175
But then he cries like a bitch

All of my friends, even the most casual faggots hate items. How can people actually enjoy them?

I have friends who literally never play vidya aside from at parties who refuse to play with items because they're stupid and annoying.

I mean, I'm not complaining. Its also nice that my brother and two of my friends play smash very seriously so I'm always able to get good games.

>>274369253

Then tell him to git fucking gud.

>>274368661
Not him and haven't tried it yet, but I assume it's as much bullshit as event matches on hard in this one.
>Little Mac with 100% against 3 Little Macs á 5 stocks
>All one shot each other
>Grabs take to long and attacks might be read by input and countered.
>Reward for doing it in 45 seconds
Fuck you Sakurai, half the event matches just suck in this one, cause the AI does whatever it wants and sometimes only leaves the option to try counter their attacks and hope it works.

>>274368138
Is he beating you or something? Are you that bad?

>>274369251
>Cheap Character
>Little Mac

You mean one of the worst characters in the game against anyone who has half a brain?

>>274369153

>Computers who read your moves
>Not artificial difficulty

Don't make friends with people from /v/, OP.

>>274369353
You probably couldn't clear Master Fortress.

>>274369448

You probably can't wipe your ass without getting shit on your hands.

>>274369175
When I played with items in Brawl, I usually disabled smash-balls and dragoon parts, cause it becomes a hunting fest instead of a fight, food cause it's boring and everyone ignores it anyway and maybe some minor lame stuff such as smoke ball. If you have hammers, pokeballs etc, Heart containers mean nothing. Not sure how I'll handle items in Sm4sh, but wind gun sucks horsedicks.

>>274369484
>y-you're MOM XD

You sure tell him bro

>>274369484
>Oh shit!
>He's called out that I can't actually play the game I'm calling casual!
>Quick think of a retort!

>>274369484
U mad, bro

>>274369448

>"Muh game is competitive really!"
>Brags about single player shit

Smash players everyone.

>>274369625
>Calls game casual
>Completely ignores the games actual difficulty

/v/ posters everyone.

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>>274369704

You spelt artificial wrong.

>>274369704
No, this isn't becoming a chain of "group ab everyone", as >>274369353 pointed out already, Smash 4's difficulty comes from unpredictable reactions by cpu and the fact, that cpu teams don't have friendly fire.

>>274369704

Well, it's difficulty all right. It's pretty fucking shit-design difficulty though.

>>274369779
Do you know what artificial difficulty is?
Because the Hand/Core/Fortress fight isn't artificial difficulty.

>>274369932
>Fortress fight isn't artifical difficulty

Kids say the darnest things.

>>274368532
Items can spawn directly on top of someone. There's no "you can beat them to the item" a lot of the time.

>>274370029
Enemy types and placements, and the paths are always the same.
There's nothing random about it, and it's incapable of doing input reading shit.

>>274368410
why dont you use the items yourself, autist shitter?

>>274368138
>be playing melee with a friends
>the fourth guy wont play if items are on, if we chosse a "banned" stage or if its a free for all
>he chooses Fox or Sheik
>yells wombo combo everytime he shines someone
>yells get fucked when he takes a stock
>gets upset if someone taunts if he SD

Anyone stuck with this kind of cancer? We just want to have fun

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>>274368320
Nothing.
It's just hardcore players who hate items, and thinks items mess up matches.

>>274368138
You know who's worse than a casual idiot who has fun playing with items? A pretentious lolsohardcorepro sore winner who complains about it.

>>274370320
>>the fourth guy wont play if items are on, if we chosse a "banned" stage or if its a free for all
Are you his fucking escort or what. He's free to fuck off If he has any problem

>>274370409
Some of them are pretty shit.
If a dragoon or daybreak piece spawns thats mostly all you're getting until it's completed. Beetle/Galaga seem a bit strong for what they are too. Depending on the stage you can be killed at about 60% by it.

>>274370649
Well.. he gives good head.
if you know what i mean

>>274370320
>melee
There's your mlg problem

>>274370649
We wanted him to play too. He was fine with other games before putting in melee.

>>274370893
Please, do elaborate on that. I'm not sure If I know what you mean

>>274369251
IT'S CHEEEEEEEEEEEAP A BLOO BLOO BLOO WAAAAAH MOMMY HE'S BEATING MEEEEEEE

Nigger please, I played for the first time ever and beat a guy who's be playing since launch. He used villager, I used gren

I play with items sometimes. Its fun. Theres no reason not to play with them on occsionally. I play smash with items off all the time and enjoy the "raw" fighting of it, but I dont want to play it all the time.

Its like in an fps game. I dont ALWAYS want to play death match. I dont ALWAYS want to play CTF or bomb base or whatever. I like variety, even if I do typically play only no items final destination, I dont just always want to play it.

People that do only want to play certain gametypes/styles are fags.

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>Getting the Wind Gun on a walkoff stage

>>274368410
Maybe you should've been fast and grabbed the free 50% item yourself you massive loser.

maybe sometimes it isn;t just about being super sick hardcore outplaying people. Maybe it's fun to give everyone a chance and laugh at how ridiculous that last KO was.

Maybe you need friends.

>>274368138
did you wreck his ass?

>>274370992
Like sucking cock, ya know?

>>274372134
You mean like, I hold the chicken and just... suck on It? Which part though? AmI sucking his blood or what

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>Me
>Housemate just bought Smash bros for wii u
>Pick DK every time
>Grab him and walk off the edge
>He bans me from playing with him.

>>274372319
No. Like my dick, blow job...?

How are you faggots pretending to play smashcancer seriously any diffirent from call of duty tourney dudebros ?

>>274372390
Wait, what does your dick have to do with anything?

>>274368138
>He says playing without items "isn't fun" Enjoys shitty random item spam

But items do make the game more fun. Evens the battlefield in terms of skill so the same person is less likely to win every single time.

>>274372691
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU RETARTED?

>>274372762
Are you?

You're talking about heads, chcikens and your dick and nobody can follow along.

>>274372762
I am not "retarted", thank you. Does It have anything in common with tarts?

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>>274368138
>Last time we sat down to play I just walked out as soon as he picked Zero Suit Samus.

I don't play Smash competitively, but I compete in tournaments for other FGs. The friends I play Smash with compete as well, and we help train each other whenever majors start getting close.

Simply put, if this is your actual mentality, you're a complete bitch. If the guy says he prefers items, then you're saying you prefer things to be more competitive.

He obliges by picking a good character and you bitch about it. Y'know you can pick ZSS too, right? Don't spout any of that bullshit about "tierwhoring," if you're playing for Glory it's because you want to win. He did too so he picked a good character, how is there a problem here?

>Cousin
>Every game that has multiple characters he asks which one is the strongest

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>>274368138
>2014
>not yelling "allah akbar" everytime you jump on your rocket

>>274370105
Oh yeah because "a lot of the time" it spawns on your opponent. It's just as likely to spawn on you, and if you really don't suck, then you could porbbaly get it in all other cases.

>>274372959
Not him but I do FG because I want to have fun and 4 player is a lagfest. Clearly I'm not alone since I've run into a fair number of people that clearly just want to have fun or goof off and I can play 20 rounds with them and have a blast.

I played gordo tennis with a D3 for 4 matches straight the other day. The only damage that was allowed was if I missed or he failed to block. It was stupid as fuck but still fun.

>>274373451

I respect that, I play Smash with items on. I don't give a fuck about playing Smash competitively, I grew up on trad 2d and 3d fighters so that's what I play when I want to be competitive.

What I'm getting at is that if you're actively trying to play Smash "for fun" then don't bitch when you turn off items and people resort to more competitive picks. You're eliminating the "for fun" involved, and fucking no one is stopping you from picking the same character or even a better one.

I've been playing smash for 15 years now, the novelty and fun of items have worn off, there's only so many times you can laugh at "oh ha ha I killed you with a hammer!"

I enjoy playing without items more, but seriously, if you take Smash Bros as a serious fighter you're either underage or the worst kind of man child.

I'm wondering which items to turn off to prevent bullshit without going full on omega-only.

>Gust Bellows kills at 0%
>Bob-omb can ruin your day by spawning on top of you
>Exploding Capsule
>Smart Bomb
>That fucking Beetle
>1-up Flag

What other items are irredeemable bullshit?

>>274373820
Master Balls

Just use regular pokeballs, getting a legendary from that is more fun anyhow.

> plays smash with friend
> don't call him out on faggotry
> stay quietly buttmad as rage ensues
> make thread talking shit about friend on /v/ to vent later
Holy shit op you're a fucking faggot. You don't even deserve to have someone consider you a friend. Keep this shit up and soon I doubt you will.

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>have a friend who's absolutely useless with items on
>he doesn't know what to do with them
>he just ignores them
>keep beating him just with itsms
>he's the only friend I have to play Smash with though so I put up with it
>eventually he gits gud and figures out how to use items
Pic related

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>>274368549

>he starts screeching "oooh wombo combo" when he throws a smart bomb at me.

>>274368549
Why is he still your friend, tho? Sounds boring to be around with him. Seriously, anon.

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>>274368947
>playing games competitively
>being this autistic

Do so many of you really hold grudges and act similarly childish while playing smash with friends? Lots of you guys seem to get genuinely pissed when their friend chooses their favorite character/trashtalks/prefers items or no items.

Was playing smash with my best buddy this weekend.

> playing lots of co-op classic and co-op challenges
> switch it to free for all
> friend ask what are you doing?
> turn off cpus and grin at him while saying "you already know"
>small smile comes on his face and he's says "ohh alright"
>normally play with items off but since we are learning smash4 items we allow and enjoy it.
>we both lose to bullshit items consecutively
>when someone gets a clear bullshit when they don't gloat or rub it in but say "yeah thats items man"
> turn items off
> friend mostly kicks my ass winning probably %70 of the time
> we both say good match always because it usually is even though I suspect he goes easy on me sometimes
> constantly switch our characters and never bitch who friend is using
> if friend chooses their man say "oh in that case lets make things interesting" and pick my main
> after couple hours tell friend we should play co-op again because he pretty much just rapes me every single time and its starting to get repitive
> he agrees and we return to co-op until we get bored of that and switch to 1on1 again
> repeat

> mfw able to play games with friends and not turn all apeshit autistic

>>274368661
What I hate about Classic is how every move by both you and the computer players deals like twice the damage and knockback compared to a normal match. It makes it all go quicker, sure, but it also leaves you susceptible to complete bullshit. Getting smacked around in a match with 5 or more opponents, none of who seem to target each other much despite it being a FFA match, and then being KOd by some stray tilt that would never have killed in a regular match at that point is some horseshit. Team battles are even worse, and the fighting Mii team matches can quickly turn into nightmares if there's multiple Gunners on stage firing off fsmashes without a need to care for friendly fire. I just want to have a try at Master Core and Fortress in a fair battle already, why do I need to deal with this crap?

>>274375760
That's because you actually have good friends. Not all of us are that fortunate.

>>274375760
Anybody else get a homosex vibe from this story? When his friend asks op what he is doing and op grins and says you know, I half expected him to start sucking his dick.

>>274368138
What the fuck is the problem, OP?

You're winning, right? RIGHT?

>>274376820
Clearly the moral of the story is that we all need to be more homosex

>>274368138
Well firstly your a faggot and playing with items off isn't fun. Secondly, are you guys just 1 on 1? At least add some level 9 bots like fuck. And thirdly, if he's so shit, why aren't you just stomping him into the dirt?

>>274376820
Disappointed his friendl didnt accidentally trip and end up putting an erect penis in his mouth

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>Play Smash with friends of varying degrees of ability
>Items on because its Smash
>Everyone has the fun
>New friend joins circle
>He constantly whinges about items
>Its a fucking party game jesus christ
>Defends it as being one of the most skilful fighters ever
>Everyone giggles
>Says nobody would beat him 1v1 no items final destination 4stock fox only super pro tourney like he did this one time
>Opt in under the condition he'll stop being a bitch about items if I win
>Never played Smash with items off; feels weird man
>He's trying his hardest to pull off all sorts of crazy shit
>I just dodge and counter his shit
>He gets more and more defensive
>Force an error and he dies
>"Man, youre right this game is so skilful I had to almost use two buttons at once"
>He no longer complains about items because he simply never plays Smash with us any more

Smashfags have been lied to all their lives, perpetuate the lie and are too afraid to admit they might be wrong.

>>274368138
>have a friend to play couch with
>be a try hard about everything ruining the local co op
Why don't you realize local co op is going to be completely dead pretty soon. Enjoy it while you can and stop bitching

>>274377929
>one retard is representative of all smash players

>>274378614
You been ignoring all the outrage about how Sm4sh is less balanced than Brawl? About how Nintendo are straying too far from Melees roots of a "true fighter"?

Fuck off. Smash is to comp fighters as TF2 is to comp shooters.

>>274378775
I haven't been ignoring it, I'm fully aware of it.

But if you think your made-up story about somebody playing "no items fox only final destination" is going to prove a point you're an idiot.

>>274378856
It seems to have struck a nerve on you, so ive proven it to at least one person.

>>274377929
>1v1 no items final destination 4stock fox only
This is and always has been a joke. Nobody who knows anything about the competitive scene takes that seriously.

>>274378775
>Sm4sh is less balanced than Brawl
nobody thinks this.

>>274378992
>say something ridiculous
>when somebody says "that's ridiculous" that must mean they believe it

Really though, you should have made your story at least a little bit believable.

>>274378998
>This is and always has been a joke.
Hence why I used those exact words to reference the hyperbole. We didnt actually restrict ourselves to Fox. Im glad you completely missed that.

>>274379185
Ah, so you'd rather just stick your hands over your ears and shout LALALA NOT REAL DONT BELIEVE YOU. Shouldve just not replied in the first place.

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>play mostly without items because they're garbage
>every now and then play Fast Giant Heavy Metal Stamina-Stock with no blast zones for the hell of it

balance is good

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>Main Meta Knight because holy fuck it's Meta Knight
>Went from 'massive faggot' to 'bro-tier' in one game
Thanks Smash 4

>>274368410
it's more fun to you easily beat your opponent than let the opponent use comeback mechanics that aren't even automatic success

>>274379768

Why can't people realize that the point of smash is to play how you like?

If people prefer to play without items, that's fine. They're not casuals that can't handle them - they're probably the opposite - and lots of people don't find the randomness and chaos fun.

If people like playing with items, that's also fine. You shouldn't be elitist about not liking items.

>>274375662
I was playing with Wario competitively last night, was fun as fuck to win against all the serious characters on the roster like Marth.

>>274368138
Seriously OP, he sounds like someone you should be able to easily defeat, nomatter what the fuck he uses.

i play with my man lucario because he does taichi and i do taichi and its fucking rad when I hit smash and his 45 minute smash animation is coming out and I can follow along with a push or some shit i do it right to my opponent so i smash their character and them it creates more immersion imo

>>274368138
If he's an obnoxious cunt only when he plays smash don't play smash with him

If he's always an obnoxious cunt stop being friends with him

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>>274368784
Some people are total dicks in direct competition.

I almost always beat my friends in fightan games but I try to be civil about it, give them tips, tell them how to block/counter shit they're having trouble with, etc.

There's one friend who's mediocre but always talks like he's the worst piece of shit to ever get crapped out. Any time he takes a round or wins he jumps up and fucking celebrates and shouts "I BEAT ANON!"

It's incredibly hard to stay a good sport when he does that shit.

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>>274377929
Sounds like this kid we had dubbed "fat ness kid"

He was probably around 16, extremely fat, only played 2 games at the LAN center: Melee and Naruto 3 for GCN.

The guy didn't seem to have anything as severe as autism, he was just a massive smug non-self-aware douchebag. He'd smack talk like fucking crazy and then get fucking destroyed and stomp off in a huff.

One time he was hitting on this girl who wanted to play Naruto 3 (he would guard the copy he rented, the LAN's only copy, like a fucking rabid dog) while he was playing. Somehow he thought a 3-match streak would impress her enough that she'd get past the looks, smell, and personality.

I asked the next person up if I could cut in and he agreed. I picked the dog character as a joke, and fat ness kid picked the third hokage. He tried to spam fire breath or something to lame it out. Except he's a fat retard with no reflexes so I just dashed under it each time and double-perfected him.

The entire LAN burst into laughter.

The girl was up next and to try and salvage the loss he said "If he picks the dog again just let me take him, I'll get rid of him for you."

I just gave the controller back to the guy who let me cut and said "Nah, this game sucks, you guys have fun."

I wish I had more stories about him, he was pretty well known as a colossal faggot at that center, but it was mainly my friends who hung out there and not me.

>>274372339
>used to play smash64 a few years back
>would always do that if i was +1 up on someone
>one kid literally cried with anger
>23 fucking years old

Why do people take video games so seriously?

>>274383198
Sadly, some people sink their self-esteem into video games.

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>Playing classic on 9.0
>Computers constantly pulling bullshit input read
>About to KO enemy Lucina
>FUCKING BOMB SPAWNS IN FRONT OF HER, INSTA GRAB AND SHE THROWS IT AT ME FASTER THAN A FUCKING NEUTRON IN A PARTICLE ACCELERATOR
>LOL .5 DIFFICULTY LOWERED CONTINUE? XD

Go die in a fire Sakurai, you mother fucking cunt nugget.

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>>274383557
Better equip them customizables, son.

>Final event battle
>Have to face 4 "hard" CPUs
>Only 1 stock

So frustrating

>>274383557
wow bro git gud if you can't deal with randomly spawning items that can spawn in exactly the wrong place at the wrong time to completely fuck you over through no fault of your own

>Completely destroy someone online
>Look at profile
>"ayy lmao", "git gud" or "REKT"

Every single time. And it's always "OP" character like rosalina, diddy or ZSS, and they always just rollspam, never properly edgeguard and are always too scared to go into the air.

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>>274377694
pic related

>>274375760
sooo you guys fucked yes?

>OP wants to play without items
>OP is pissy that his casual friend is beating him despite the fact that he's trying to be a SUPERSERIOUS tourneyfag in a casual game
>Embarassed that he aint gud

>>274384525
OK, I can understand sucking him off to orgasm twice, but 3 times seems like it was intentional.

Better use wireless Controllers next time

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>>274368498
>he don't realizes that is a casual game

>>274382138
>beat the ever living shit out of your friend in a game
>he wins a round
>feels awesome about it
>you think he's a dick for feeling good about his victory
Uh.

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>>274368138
>playing brawl against gf's brother because he thinks he's hot shit
>beat him soundly with a 2 stock lead on my main man pikachu
>beat him with my secondary, mario, with a one stock lead
>beat him with Ike, which I've played a little over a dozen times against his main, though it was a close call
>he claims he's bored of smash and wants to play something else

the little shit was gloating and showboating the whole time, it felt real good. I'm a sportsman so I never taunted but that last win with Ike was so glorious I had to do it.

>>274368138
I just play Smash against my 13 year old brother.
I tend to play Captain Falcon, because I know his moveset the best, and like his playstyle the most. He is also entertaining as fuck.
My brother switches around a bit more, but it seems that the Villager is kind of his favorite, as he loves that god damn tree chopping move.

It's pretty fun to play against him, as we are pretty evenly matched. If only the Wiimotes weren't such torture on my fingers, as I can't play for long periods of time without getting my hands sore.

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>>274368857
>No casual
>Fighting game

>>274385217
Whenever I go to my friend's he always passes me the controller for hard sfuff and thinks I'm a master of the vidya.

I haven't played anything but slow paced strategy games in the last couple years.

I'm trying to convince myself to buy a PS4 because I miss ppaying with the guy but he needs to stop worshipping me as the god of vidya.

>>274385217
>beat the ever living shit out of your friend in a game
Nice reading comprehension, cocksucker. We're fairly even, I just have that little bit more which translates to a higher win %.

And again, this isn't just when he gets a hard-earned win after trying for a while, this happens EVERY TIME he wins. He's a sore winner.

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>>274385705
>I can't handle playful banter!
Haha, alright sperglord.

>>274385909
>playful banter
I don't know what you're imagining, but I do believe you may be projecting.

>>274385970
I don't know what you're implying, but I don't think you do either.

>>274368138

My best and only IRL friend is an aspie who refuses to use equipment or customs.

Before I thought of using customs without equipment I was pissed because I love the customization but it was unfair if he didn't use equipment. Now I customize and he doesn't, but its still fucking boring.

>be

diaf literally irl

>Play Project M with friend
>Mostly beat him, I take it pretty seriously
>He starts getting gud
>Jokingly tell him I've started to let him win
>Laugh and tell him that he's actually gotten a lot better
>Now he's extremely butthurt any time he wins and assumes I'm letting him win
>can't joke around and play characters I'm not good with anymore
>not having fun anymore

>>274379978
Problem is, when two have totally different opinions on what makes the game fun. Usually results in stories, where some retarded tourneyfag thinks, he's the shit while he can't even do simple stuff like wavedash let alone play with items.

>>274384468
>edgeguarding
fuck you, youre the reason no one can have fun online

>Friends always play the same two/three characters over and over.
How do people do this? I get so bored playing the same character repeatedly, especially against the same character.

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>>274383376

>Sadly, some people sink their self-esteem into video games.

>>274368138
Sounds like you should get good.

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I fucking hate Smash Bros.

And all of you as well!

>>274386876
What do you think this is? Kindergarten? Do you want to hold hands while you play your main Little Mac?
No seriously, edgeguarding belongs in smash just as meteor smash and items do.

>>274386876
People who are better than you are the reason you can't have fun online?

>>274386876
without edgeguarding/recovery the balance would be totally thrown off

>>274387230
But anon, I love you and I want to make Sweet passionate anal love to you

>>274381958

This, what the fuck is wrong with you op?

>>274368138

>Be playing smash with a friend
>Say he's shit and casual

>Moans about losing to him

Dude
Just beat him

Its that easy

If you can beat someone every time you play its impossible to get mad

>>274378775
>You been ignoring all the outrage about how Sm4sh is less balanced than Brawl? About how Nintendo are straying too far from Melees roots of a "true fighter"?

recently? honestly i havent heard anything like this. I hear people complaining about people who say that, but i havent actually heard it. Can you or somebody link an article or another thread where a lot of people are saying that?

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>>274368138

>someone's down to play smash
>doesn't matter which iteration of the game, it's always the same 2 shit groups
>group 1 is almost always the anti-competitive fags that go "lolo pokeballs on super high, 99 stock on 300%, lolo pokefloats so random!"
>group 2 is the FD/BF only fags that say to play random characters and proceed to shit talk when people get characters they don't knkw how to play or pick the lowest-skill cieling character and proceed to cheese out everyone who doesn't play the game religiously
>either group obnoxiously decides what way to play first
>other group complains about how items/no items isn't fun and we switch to the other one
>first group bitches about the change and we stop playing because nobody can come to a compromise

tl,dr I've played smash with plenty of groups and the outcome is always the same. Always super srs only or a gigantic clusterfuck on-screen, with no middleground.

>2014
>not switching between items and no items

>>274389225
Most of my friends and family group like to play with all items except healing items and random stage.

I have only one friend who always insist on play FD one on one, and the funny part is that he wins more often with items than without them, maybe because he mains captain falcon

OKAY NIGGERS TELL ME A TWITCH WHERE I CAN WATCH PROS PLAYING NOW

>>274368320
as long as they're on low they can be good, but after playing smash for 15 years usually with items on its gotten pretty boring especially with all the new one hit kill items. I dont see items as fun anymore I find it much more fun to actually learn a character better and try to read what your opponent is going to do.

I also think smash 4 is better on 3ds since the simple controls make it really boring on a console, but make complete sense for a handheld

>>274386470
Yeah, and stories where some retarded casual elitist throws a fit when items are turned off because he can't win without them.

>>274388859
Nobody says those things, it's all made up.

I mained Samus in 64, Melee, and Brawl. During Brawl I came to enjoy ZSS's gameplay more than regular Samus. Now that she's a separate character I made her my main, not because she's one of the best, but because I love Metroid and have always liked Samus. I do feel bad and try not to use her against my friends much though because I am unstoppable when I use her.

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>tfw none of your friends are good at amash, but you want to have a good time so you hide your power level and let them win but deep down in your soul you know that you could str8 destroy them.

That's why I always choose random against normals

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>>274384468

What exactly is edgeguarding, is it guarding them FROM the edge or while they're already on the edge?

I play and do well in other fightan like BB and GG but I suck cocks at Smash

>>274394375
Edgeguarding is preventing them from getting back on the edge. Harder to do in Sm4sh than Melee thanks to ledge mechanic changes and some recovery buffs (ledge mechanic changes were beneficial overall because planking is gone) but the general Idea is that they can't stay off stage forever and that by keeping them off they will die. Unless they are playing as metaknight in brawl.

>>274394375
Preventing them to get to the edge, or punishing them as they get to it.

Like how marth uses counter on the 3rd jump, or fair as they do the second jump to gimp them. Or how ZZS stays at a safe distance when they're on the edge to side B if they roll or attack, or punish if they jump.

>>274394017
>Me playing street fighter with anyone ever
It's like normalfags just panic the moment a match starts and forget any practice they've done.

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>Try For Glory
>Get brutally raped no matter who I use or who I'm against

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OP just sounds like bait.

I always play with items on to give a fair advantage for my roommates.


However, since I'm the only one who knows what all the items do and how to use them, I usually tend to wreck the shit out of them still anyway

>hit friend with final smash/smart bomb/dragoon/killing upsmash/whatever
>he pauses and goes to menu

>no items except soccer balls
best mode

>>274396471
Your friend is a sore loser.

>>274396138
How do you cope?

>>274396475
Everyone knows that Golden Hammers only is best mode.

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>>274394017
I know that feel, anon.

> Faggot friends all pick Fox, Marth, Ike and Falco
> Pick Jigglypuff
> "Cmon anon, pick a real character"
> Absolutely wreck them because Jiggly is actually fuckin stronk if you abuse that down B
> "What the fuck anon, how come you won? Jiggly must be a secret top tier like Ike"
> Friends are all pissed that I beat them
> I can see they want me to leave
> "H-haha, I must've turned your handicaps up, i'll play as fox now"

> My soul when easily dodging everything and "playing defensively"

Why are people so obsessed with winning? I don't understand it.

>>274396475
>Not playing with Special Flag only and playing Capture the Flag
>Not playing with only explosives
>Not play Pokeballs only

>>274396889
>People underestimating jiggs
>They can't handle the Bair
>They can't handle the rest
>They can't handle the girth

/v/ how do I get good at dodges?
This is my first Smash and everytime someone throws me in the air I'm screwed.I cannot dodge consistently

>>274368138
If he's so bad, then you should be consistently beating him and making an example of the right way to play. If you're not beating him, then you need to get better too.

>>274397185
First you press Right Trigger. Then you press a direction.

Congrats, you can now dodge. You can dodge in the air too, and you get invincibility frames till you hit the ground.

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>>274397042

Winning feels good. Try it sometime

>>274397343
I couldn't give a fuck though, it means nothing.

>>274397042
Generation raised where nobody ever loses. You're on the honor roll for maintaining your body temperature at normal. George Carlin warned us that this is the human shit we are raising.

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>>274397453

We're stagnating.

Trust me I played Fate/Extra and videogames wouldn't lie to me

>>274396889
People can't handle the jiggs.

>>274397434
I kinda agree with you, competition is silly. I still play some competitive games, but my true passion is with Euro Truck Simulator and Harvest Moon.

>>274368784
Sometimes there are people who think that winning in fighting games or Madden or 2K is like winning a fight or a game in real life. They'll cheer and yell and talk shit like its actually important to them

>>274368138
>He says playing without items "isn't fun" Enjoys shitty random item spam
>Only characters he plays are cheap top tiers like ZSS and Rosalina because he read they're good on the internet

HURR I PRAY GAEM FOR TECHINCAL SKILL IT NO FUN IF FUN IS INVOLVED

TOPS MENORAH

nice b8

>>274397434
Sure it doesn't, but a game is kinda pointless if no one has some sort of urge to win.

>>274397961
To have fun maybe?

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>>274398057

Why can't winning be fun?

Like you can have all the fun you want but that won't stop me from motorboating your ass with my tipper

>>274398275
I'm not saying it can't be fun, but surely it's the game itself that's making it fun.

If there was a game where you pressed a single button and it said 'YOU WIN', would that be fun?

>All my friends are pretty good, and we all share pretty similar rule preferences
>I've outskilled them all and everyone in the area
>Don't like playing online since the majority of fights are the same group top-tier character flowcharters
They're not hard to fight, just boring.
It's pretty disappointing.

>go over to best friend's house
>meet all his nig friends
>they have smash tournaments every weekend
>i havent played the game in years
>proceed to beat every single one of them as lucas in brawl
>become nigga
>become king nigga

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>>274399175
But who is the SUPREME NIGGA.

>>274399307
according to them, as a white man, i automatically become supreme ultra giganigga
>new nickname: 2%

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>i dont like the way this guy plays and it makes me angry
>no i can beat him i just don't like playing with him
>yet i continue to do so and won't stop being friends with him

op he wants to have fun and you're an insecure faggot getting touchy when he says things that shouldn't matter

>have friends who all love smash
>play brawl together
>we all have fun playing with items and shit
>we all start watching "competitive brawl"
>all 5 of us become tourney fags
>we end up switching to Mellee
>still enjoy items and fun stages and play with them frequently.

Its all about the environment you play in.

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>>274399537
>2%

My friend is the same way. He always plays as fox, loves items, and never shields.

My advice to you is to just fucking lighten up and have fun, anon. Not everyone is into the competitive side of Smash Bros.
Yeah it can be bullshit when he wins because a golden hammer spawned right in front of him, but its good for a few laughs.

>>274368138
Insist on not playing with items.
Everyone has their tastes. Items are very much hit and miss for a lot of people. Just tell him to play some game with you without items or tell him to fuck off.

If your friend literally can not enjoy smash without items, he probably has ADD.

>>274368138
>have a friend who doesn't like items but still picks the top-tier shitters to make himself feel good
>still wreck his ass because I don't suck like OP
:^()

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>Have friend I call 'Goob'
>Everytime we play smash he picks ZSS or Mii Gunner
>I win
>OMG SHULK AND ZELDA ARE SO OP, YER SO CHEAP DUDE
>He wins
>Good game man, I think I'm going to main X character

>>274398447
Of course not, but just flinging everything at your opponent isn't that exciting either. You do both, position yourself well while hype the shit out of everything

> play zss get called a tryhard
> play DK or bowser, get called a low tier hero
> play WFT or lucina, get called a horny waifufag
> play male WFT get called a horny waifufag
> play Ike get called a barafag
> play lucario, get called a furry
> play jigglypuff, pacman or kirby, get called an orb fetishist

There's no fucking winning

Just disable the ridiculous "free kill" items like bellows, beetle and galaga and go nuts.

If you really can't win a single match just because he picked up a fucking ray gun or something, try gitting gud.

>>274401125
The squeakwel
>Goob is notorious for being insufferable in smash
>Zelda, Shulk, Ness, Robin, Ike, Lucina, Palutena all OP now
>Rosalina I understand kinda but Palutena? Fucking Really?
>Everytime he wins he jumps up in jewfro joy and everybodies kind of like "Whoa there cheesefingers, it's just a game"
>Every character he plays takes skill
>Every character I play is cheap
>Spouts "GET REKT" bullshit when he gets a launch
>I HAVEN'T EVEN PRACTICED, GUESS ITS NATURAL SKILL
Why do I do this to myself

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>sister begs me to play
>fine.jpg
>she picks kirby or some fucker that can fly
>stays away from the battle until theres one of us left
>floats back and forth until time runs out and she wins

>>274402989
Is your sister Zero?

>>274383557
I don't honestly know what's worse about classic 9.0. Constant item spam or the retarded efficient AI.

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>>274402989
What's the point?

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>>274402989
The scarf has been handed down my son.

>>274402989
> not picking ganon and dunking her

>>274368138
>Can't win against a shitty player
>Blames items, stages, the other character, their own character, and never their own skill or capability

Hm.

>>274376820

Holy shit this. Especially at
>"oh in that case lets make things interesting"
Kinda reminds me of that similiarly cheesy Sonic video where two guys play Sonic on their Sega genesis and Sonic and Shadow appear.

>>274402989
>not fucking your sister

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>>274403246
>>274383557

>decide to try 9.0 for shits
>run into Metal Little Mac a few fights in
>his super armor has super armor
>ragequit after he reads and avoids every single smash while he was just sitting at damn near 300% with a KO punch waiting for me to get close so he could slam his unrelenting nigger dick up my virgin asshole with the force of a thousand suns
>go back in later
>make sure I'm not fighting the metal Mac shit again
>vs. Mac and Jigs
>they both just sit outside the boxing ring with items waiting for me to jump towards them so they can fuck my ass with the items they're hoarding
>lose a stock trying to 1v1 Mac whild Jigs rushes in and they proceed to gangrape me
>spawn back in
>they keep sitting outside the ropes
>as soon as my invincibility is up they move in for the kill
>Jigs rolls into me, I block it
>the literal second I drop my shield Mac hits me with the Honda hands
>Jigs grabs me when I get pushed back, throws me into Mac
>Mac grabs me and gets a few hits in, throws me back to Jigs
>Jigs puts me to sleep
>Mac slams me into oblivion
>mfw

And then I learned to be a cheap faggot and give myself retarded defense and healing equipment. Because fuck that noise.

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There's something about Dedede that effects the enemy's ability to play. I think Dedede has some sort of retard aura, where people suddenly play like retards against him. Every time I play Dedede online, my opponents fall for the stupidest shit and get read like books.

>>274406194
Probably because he looks like fucking sandbag who screams "I have huge amount of ending lag, please hit me". And then bam, you strike.

>>274368138
>Last time we sat down to play I just walked out as soon as he picked Zero Suit Samus
What a sport.

>>274377929
This didn't happen

>>274368320
>Why do you hate things that encourage you not to use your characters abilities and instead turn into fights where everyone picks up the same weapons with the same attributes and spams them at eachother

Might as well not have the whole roster and just have wireframes spam items at eachother.

>>274379486
But MK is shit in smash 4

>>274379486

I pity Metaknight players.
He's got such shit range and he's not nearly insufferable enough to play against.

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>>274368138
then don't play with him? I don't understand the issue, there is online now.

>>274407083
Theres online? I thought it was lag simulation mode.

>Want to play smash
>Have to play online if I want to play with a human bean because no friends nearby, or at all
>Only ever get to suffer with lag and packet loss while playing smash with some nigger on the other side of the planet that shares his internet with 5 other people who are all torrenting HD porn
>No "Regional" mode that selects opponents based on how close their IP address is to mine

I don't understand how you could POSSIBLY overlook this feature. There must be plenty of people I could fight that aren't >50ms ping away from me. Even Mario Kart had this.

>>274407321
Get a better internet, anon.

>>274407456
While he's at it he should buy everyone else on the planet better internet too.

Fuck items.

Only item that's acceptable is smash ball.

>>274407392
Play a real fighting game.

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>>274402989
>Playing timed matches

>>274407935
How is that going to make MM find people closer to me?

>>274408470
You can play a game that has not garbage matchmaking.

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>>274408546
>I play games for the match maker

eharmony is my favorite game

I've never won ;_;

How to get good at 1v1 for glory them niggers got the reads n shit its so fucking crazy.

>>274408690
Hey bro I told you how to fix your problem.
It'll also fix your shit taste too

>>274408706
play marth and fuck their shit up
its his best stage

>>274408781
Smash is the only good fighting game though

>>274396328
>>274408706
yeah hey how do I get good it seems like the people in for glory are playing the game in 1/4th speed while all my buttons are the take damage buttons.

what gives where can I learn to get good? how can i learn to get good? where would I even start to get good? should I just get bodied for a good few months until the good switch just flips I know with experience comes skills and all but uhh what do?

>play with friends on launch day
>play on a massive TV in friends movie room
>friend 1 chooses Metaknight and spams Side B
>WHAT THE FUCK WHY DOES HE KEEP FALLING OFF THE EDGE AND KILLING HIMSELF WHY CAN'T I CONTROL IT
>tell him to pick a different character
>I'm only good with him
>whatever

>friend 2 chooses a bunch of random characters
>like Sanic
>neither know how to roll or grab even though I've told them how
>keep losing to me
>"Dude, you're such a fucking faggot. You don't even give us a chance to fight back. Plus you've been playing the DS version so you have experience."
>I'm literally trying to avoid using tilts and KOing them, they just keep killing themselves

My friends are cancer.

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>>274408992
>Smash
>A fighting game

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>>274409286
>Fight other characters in melee combat
>Not a fighting game because I don't like it

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>>274409474
>He thinks smash is a fighting game
pic related: you right now

>>274409621
If a have where you fight people isn't a fighting game, what is it?

>a party game hurr

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>>274409805
Yeah I fight people in FPS games too doesnt make them fighting games

>>274368138

>Never shields

You should be winning nearly every game, items or not.

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>>274409621
>yfw you realize Smash is a fighting game

>>274410019

If only Smash had a bunch of button combinations to memorize, then it could be as tedious, er...I mean competitive as any fighting game.

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>>274410019
>What is melee combat gameplay

All "fighting" games are actually shooters because you can fire projectiles at opponents.

>>274410019
That's not the same thing, but epic anime reaction images and strawman arguments.

>never shields
Grab him and throw him into combos. Also ranged characters.

>>274410395
button combos are a good thing.

Smash is good without them and doesn't need them, but they don't really make the games tedious.

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>>274410395
>>274410237
>>274410442
>>274410501
It's okay, maybe once smash 6 comes out and Namco makes the entire thing you can truly call Smash a fighting game.

>>274410567
Gimme a sec I gotta crop some of my porn

>>274368138
Just win. I was wasted and played a faggot like this while he was sober. Even blacking out with donkey kong i can handle these kids and im a low tier player.

>>274375760
>play online with friend
>pick random
>he plays samus
>end up as game and watch
>have literally no idea how to play him
>just spam judge
>kill him all 4 times (4 stock) with level 9 judge
we were both fucking laughing our asses off

>>274410682
Get to it man, I've only got like 30 images.

Jesus christ you guys are too easy to bait.

Been playing a bit of Smash 4, I actually like it a lot, love how normal move combos are actually useful and the roster has some really fun newcomers.

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>>274410567
Oh yeah shitpost mccgee? What makes a fighting game then?

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>>274410921
>implying you baited me

>>274411303
You replied didn't you?

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>smash fags
>whining about casuals

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>>274402989
>having scarflard as your sister

>>274410529

Meh, not really my thing. I tired to play that Mortal Kombat with a DC Comics skin awhile back and I just couldn't get into it.

>>274410567
S-source? It doesn't show up when reverse searching it

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>>274411440
>implying it's taking the bait if I take it off the hook before putting it in my mouth

>>274368138
Get new friends

>>274411884
Yeah, that's because it's a shit fighting game.

Come on anon, that's like playing DmC and declaring that action games "aren't your thing".

>>274368498
>Doesnt realize that neckbeards are making a childrens game more hardcore than it really is

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>>274411884
Maybe if you try not playing a completely shit game you might be able to get into it.

>>274411907
It's gay shit
Search like shota succubus yaoi on Ex

>>274411959
>Implying implications

>>274411907
look for crossdressing yaoi guys only

>>274412203
>>274412297
God damn it, I thought for once it wouldn't be gay shit

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>>274412203
I saw right through your ruse

>>274412109
>>274412203

I had heard MK games were generally pretty good. What should I have been playing instead?

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>>274412405
I exclusively crop gay shit.

>>274412503
How do you know I wasn't sincere the whole time?

>>274377929
Sounds like you made this up to shit on competitive players.

>>274398447
>Remembering PSTW action rpg.
>Tfw this is what modern games are reverting to

>>274412509
SF, MvC or animu fighters are probably the best.

MK games are weird, I really don't like them at all.

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>>274412509
Not MK for one.
Even among MK though MKvsDC is shit tier.
If you REALLY want to try a western fighter then Injustice or KI is pretty much the only decent ones but if you dont care and want to play good games then Street Fighter, Guilty Gear, Marvel, Persona 4 Ultimax or KoF is your best bets.

3d is pretty much DoA, VF and Tekken and they're pretty hard to get into.

>tfw playing smash with a friend
>always gets mad at me because I play with items, personally I think it's fun because I'm not a tryhard faggot
>play as my favorite characters
>friend fycking loses his shit

>>274403090
Underated post

>Remove projectiles
>Game saved

>>274368138
why don't you just wrek him? and make it a point that he is a piece of shit, like pick random, give him a handicap, and rape him in the mouth.
OR I DONT KNOW GO PLAY ONLINE AND GET BETTER FRIENDS?

>>274410237
Sauce? Google and exlinks gives me nothing.

>>274413162
http://exhentai.org/g/636481/3cff8af20f/

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>>274413112
>This is what casuals actually believe
Acquire proficiency

>>274413338
Much thanks, anon.

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>One of my friend's friends heres that I'm good at Smash
>Challenges me to a battle
>Say sure, because why the fuck not
>He tells me "Just warning you, I'm pretty good at this game."
>He turns items off and chooses an Omega stage, so I figure me might actually be good
>He picked Kirby
>He just floats over me and uses Up+B or Down+B for the entire match
>He literally does only that, zero other moves, the entire fucking match
I honestly felt bad beating him.
Why can't anybody I know git gud? The only person I know who puts up a fight is one of my buddies, but he uses Yoshi exclusively and prefers to fight for fun, i.e. all items on, random stage, customs and equipment on.

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>>274412963
Why is he best artist

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>>274368138
>do as he wishes, turn items on
>play as annoyingly defensive as possible, don't throw a single attack and focus on being a dickie bitch
>wait till the white fan looking thing spawns (if it's still in sm4sh)
>keep him hitstunned in the infinite fag slap item whilst staring at him shouting "YEAH LETS HAVE ITEMS ON AREN'T THEY FUN GOSH I AM HAVING SO MUCH FUN OH MAN WHAT A BALANCED FAIR FIGHT WE'VE HAVING WOOOOOOOOW"

>>274413112
what's wrong with projectiles? They're not that hard to deal with and can be really fun.

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>>274413502
>heres

>>274413359
Sorry bro, if I wanted to play a spamming game, I'd be playing Super Metroid. I'm here for fighting. If you can't win that way, why even play?

>>274406772

Holy crap. Quit exaggerating.

>>274413061

It was actually Injustice that I played and not MKvsDC. Apparently its very similar to MK 2011 mechanically and developed by the same studio. I don't know if that's true, I never played.

Just to clarify, it was Injustice that i couldn't get into, not MKvsDC.

>>274413662
Oops.