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>play PQ
>not fun at all
Oh
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>>273762053
Yeah I bought the special edition FML
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>>273762053
They mad because
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Quick question...
Who Stole the Meat Jelly?
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>get proper dungeon crawling for the first time since the first Persona
>wow this isn't fun

Go play a visual novel or some shit
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>>273762708
Please?
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So is this game supposed to progress this slow? I'm only on the 2nd dungeon and have spent 10 hours on it.

It's been fun so far, just slow.
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>>273762053

I'm quite the opposite.

I never knew I wanted to draw and customize my own maps. The Persona skin helped out with easing into it. Now I'm waiting for another ATLUS sale on the eShop.

I'm also playing it on Hard. Fuck Risky. Maybe for NG+.
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>>273762053
i want to rape her butt with that corndog.
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>>273762972
isn't that a good thing for a game to take long to beat? just take breaks if it seems to be dragging on
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>>273762979
Is hard actually not hard but store prices are high like in Nocturne?
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I picked Yu instead of Makoto because I like Yu's design better and didn't realize it would change the story that much

Now I have to hang out with P4's cast for the beginning of the game

How much did I fuck up?
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>>273762972

>10hrs
>2nd dungeon

This is how you spot P3/P4fags.

Ten hours in, you should be at the 3rd dungeon with a bunch of requests completed.
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>>273763090
I'm just curious, as I never played a EO game and felt like I was taking a long time.
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I just realized she's played by Anothony Burch's sister
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>>273762790
>FIRST PERSON
>2014
>can't see your personas
>no social link and characters are flat as your mother's chest
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>>273762931
Theo
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>waahh there's too much gameplay in my persona game
fuck off faggot the dungeons are pretty good and the combat is fast and well designed, there's plenty of fun to be had with the game
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>>273763061
*points at you with double crossbowguns*

Zen: BACK THE FUCK OFF!?!?!?!?!?!?
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>>273762972
Same here.
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be slow since there seems to be only 4 or 5 dungeons to me.
It's supposed to be an 80 hour game so the slow progression makes sense to me.

>>273762979
Agreed. I LOVE the map customization.

>>273763281
Thank you.
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>>273763243
>playing on anything below risky

This is how you spot the newfags that started with EOU. There is no need to rush faggot.
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>>273763262
>>FIRST PERSON
>>2014
Nothing wrong with first person dungeon crawling if it's done well and guess who does first person dungeon crawling well? The SMT and EO teams, one of which happened to work on it
>>can't see your personas
It's a 3DS game, there's no demon models to steal and Atlus don't have the money to make new ones, besides they'd slow the combat down and would look like shit.
>>no social link
Of course there's no social link, besides those were never implemented particularly well in Persona
>>characters are flat as your mother's chest
Just like their source games!
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>>273763483
>being Mr.tryhard
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>>273763262
>First Person Dungeons and no social links
>Bad

Literally SMT
You are one massive cocksucking faggot
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>>273763315
>There's too much gameplay in this game
>There is no third person camera so I can constantly be seeing my chibi 3d models at all times
>There's not enough voice acting, it should have been fully voice acted
>I have to draw on the map? Gay


I fucking hate the persona fanbase
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>>273763090

No

Some people have jobs and school and shit

More than 20 hours for a single game is overkill
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>>273763262
And yet, we knew all this before it came out. It's EO with a Persona skin, we knew this. If you bought it thinking anything different i'd say you're the fucking idiot.
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>>273763315
I've always wondered who the noble voice actually is in that pic
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>>273763483


I'm sorry I'm playing too fast; I've got a good rhythm going.
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>>273763658
>said the guy complaining about people taking their time
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>>273763253
I think average time with EO is around 40-60 hours, varying based on the game, the player's skill, and party set up.

If you're not running any of the cheese set-ups, it can take a good while to get anywhere in the first stratum of an EO, because you start off extremely weak. But by the second you should be able to hold your own, and have a general idea of what you can take down.

The same seems to be true here, although the floor-to-floor difficulty seems to jump a little more than EO, but that's likely because of the number of attack options you have, and the nature of the way combat differs from EO.
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>>273763691
Then why the fuck are you playing an RPG to begin with?
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>>273763668
>>273763741
>defending game with no character development
Might as well throw rocks on the river
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>>273763691
I really wish this was a satire post but I know it isn't.

Why do you even play games, just to pad your Backloggery or your gamerscore?
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>play for 4 hours
>finish two floors of the first dungeon

Jesus christ I don't have time for this.
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>>273763869
>EO game with a persona skin
>expecting character development

Jesus fuck
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>>273763741
Yeah, I've never played a EQ game so I'm enjoying it so far.

Just play it on the risky difficulty. Becomes far more fun on that
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>>273763790
Thats ok, but you shouldn't shit on someone else without knowing how they play first. I'll bet you just stick to one main cast and ignore the rest, hell I heard the lower difficulties are so easy to stroll through.
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I just started and I think the whole drawing your own maps thing is cool, combat isn't too bad.

But Rei and Zen are so anime even for Persona I can't stand it.
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>>273762458
>Soundtrack has 4 songs
>Artbook is just 2d character models

That was not what I was expecting
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>>273763691
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>>273763985
>even for Persona
are you one of those people who think persona isn't completely anime as fuck?
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>>273763962
>we're gonna take this series that is famous for character development and social links
>LET'S STRIP OUT OF THOSE FEATURES THAT MAKE THEM AWESOME
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How far in until I get access to the compendium and stuff?
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>>273764118

>Even for
>Not implying Persona is anime as balls already and they aren't making it worse every release
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>>273764169
Second floor I think, maybe the third.
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>>273763880

I can squeeze in about 2 hours of video games per day during the week, maybe another 10 at the weekend.

An 80 hour game means playing it and only it for a month.

I'd be sick of it by the end of a fortnight, regardless of how good it is.
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>>273764252
Ah, thanks. Was worried I'd have to wait a while longer for it
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>>273763772
Betatron
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>>273763869

>No character development

That happens in their respective games.
I like seeing how they interact with one another in the setting they're put in.

>>273763981
>Implying I don't mix it up
FR: Aigis, Kanji, Makoto
BR:Koromaru, Naoto

I'm playing it on Hard.
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>>273764306
Those are the best type of games. I get similar playtime and love encounter a long game I can chip away at for weeks.
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>>273764142
You got it backwards. It's
>we're gonna take this series that is famous for it's dungeon crawling
>LET'S GIVE IT A PERSONA SKIN
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>>273763985
Raisin are eh.

I almost liked Rei better when she just awkwardly repeated questions asked of her and the P4 idiots took that as a legit answer.
But now she's apparently has the life goal of consuming 5 or 6 stellar masses of food.

Zen is 3edgy5me must-protect-that-smle guy.
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>>273764306
>waaah they should cater to me
Why do you even play Persona or Etrian?
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>>273764142
This was known, shitter.
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>waiter, there's gameplay in my persona
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>>273763243
>speedrunning
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>>273764142
>Persona
>famous for either of those things

It's famous because beta males finally got an English game where they can live vicariously. You're pathetic.
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>>273764306
It's an RPG faggot, the fuck did you expect? Be prepared to put the time in or don't buy it.
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>>273764542

I used to be a student.

Getting less than 8 hours of video games in a day while at university means you're not even trying.
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>>273764673
>being shit at Persona
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>>273762053
Did you enjoy other SMT games or EO?
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>>273764673
>being bad at a game
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>>273762053

it´s oaky when nintendo does it
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Reminder that this is >>273762053 is the usual Persona fanbase reaction to an actual video game and not a visual novel masquerading as a game.

I bet these fags play on the easiest difficulty too.
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>>273764784
>Personashitters
>enjoying video games

No, most of them enjoy their fandumb clubs and tumblr
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>>273764673
>>273764746

>Speedrunning

It's called being good at Etrian Odyssey, you fucknuts.
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Which is closer to EO:U normal? Hard or risky?
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>>273763262
So wait

You bought a game that was EO with main series SMT elements, with a persona skin, and expected persona?

Are you retarded
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>>273764784
No because they don't have any char development, you just go from dungeon to dungeon
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>>273764905
People on /v/ aren't good at EO because they get to the naming screen and have a breakdown.
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>>273762053

I love EO and I really enjoy this game, although it's not as good at EOIV. That being said it's leagues above P3/P4 as far as gameplay goes. I don't see how anyone can complain about Q having played P3/P4. Currently 20 hours in and on the double date dungeon on risky. I probably would be farther but quite a few of those 20 hours is me laying my 3DS down while I do other shit. That being said I'm incredibly surprised how much the game rewards you for beating an FOE, you get some crazy shit.
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I love it. I prefer EO4 but this is is still good. I like making my own characters so that's the only real downside to PQ
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>>273764950
you must be trolling

why did you expect character development in a fucking spin off? You must have been one of those faggots who hated arena
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>people ITT complaining about first person crawling and 60+ hour games
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>>273764950
>No because they don't have any char development

Funnily enough, neither did anyone in P3 and P4.
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>>273764950
Not sure if troll, but is the complaint here that the game has too much game play?
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>That horror dungeon
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>>273765109
What do you expect from a nintendrone?

It should have came with a rosalina dlc persona
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>>273765109
>being ok with series going backwards
YEAH, LET'S HAVE SPRITES TOO AND DADROCK OST
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The wall ahead is projecting large amounts of "fishiness".
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Truly the Dark Souls of Persona.
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>>273762053
What's so good about persona?
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>>273762053

>Known what the game was going to be like for almost a full year now
>People buy it anyways and complain that its not that great

This is fucking hilarious
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>>273763880
>Why do you even play games

To have fun, autist?

Any game that is longer than 30 fucking hours overstays his welcome FAST.

There is literally no excuse to make them that long.
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>>273765214
"Going backwards" would imply that this is a negative for anyone that was looking for something more than just "yukari-chan so kuh-way :)".

You are filth.
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>>273765067

> it's leagues above P3/P4 as far as gameplay goes

That's because it is not Persona gameplay. It's actually the mainline SMT gameplay in PQ.
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>>273765214
Going backwards? That'd be p4
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>>273765272

I want to poink her.
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>>273765109

>nooooo why do people complain a game rehashes its content over and over to tediously pad itself for over 60 fucking hours instead of being a quality over quantity game?

Shocker
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>>273765214
Atlus are a fucking tiny company m8, they don't have the resources to commit to making 3D models of the hundreds of demon designs Persona uses for a game that will sell 300k, not everything has the budget of P5.
Besides, the game was developed by the EO team on the EO engine, they can't suddenly throw 3D exploration and combat into that thing and expect it to work
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>>273765294
Go to school, have friends, kill shit with them and then spend some time knowing more about them. If you can manage to slog through boring fights it pretty good
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>>273765214
It's a FUCKING SPIN-OFF

SPIN.
OFF.

AS IN SPUN OFF FROM THE SOURCE MATERIAL.

YOU PEOPLE ARE SO FUCKING RETARDED.
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>>273765438
Again, that'd be p4
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>>273765361
P3 was shit. P4 was when the franchise actually gave a damn aout good gameplay.
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>gave Pixie to Shinjiro
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>this thread

neo-/v/
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>>273765294

It's a virtual novel with light RPG gameplay and casual dungeon crawling.
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>>273765361
>first person is acceptable
>we 90s again
BRAVO ATLUS
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>>273765342

It's EO gameplay, but yeah, still too hardcore for anyone who only played Persona.
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>>273765529
I swear I'm being trolled here. P4 was awful in every regard, gameplay especially
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How much high school sim is there?
Cause nobody buys persona for the shitty ass gameplay. Atlus knows that right?
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>>273765214
>Persona 2 removes about 12 damage types
>Persona 3 ditches rumours, negotiations, party control, wildcards on all members and cards
>Persona 4 ditches more damage types
The series has been regressing since Innocent Sin, fucktard
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Has neogaf complained about the game so far? I need some rage material
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>>273765214
That sounds awesome.
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>>273765656
>How much high school sim is there?
Zero, actually.
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>>273765529

Get good at protecting the MC.
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>>273765660
IS had a shittastic encounter rate and the game was easy as fuck. I would've dropped it if not for the plot.
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>>273765529

It's universally accepted that gameplay was the worst part of persona 4
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>All these people buying it cause of the Persona name expecting a totally different game

Do people not do research before buying their games?
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>>273765342

>It's actually mainline SMT gameplay

Naw, it's EO gameplay more than anything. I could see thinking it's SMT but map creation etc says otherwise.

Still, the gameplay is leagues above P3/P4. Whether it's just EO with a skin or not the characters act like how you'de expect the characters to act and the gameplay is really good. It's fun to see the P3/P4 cast interact.
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>>273765751
>can't control party members
>get gud lawl
psp paby detected
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>>273765794
>Personages
>do research on anything other than what waifu they can pretend to fuck

Please.
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>Persona 5 won't have gameplay as good as this
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>>273765294

It's casual so of course the weeaboos on /v/ love it

The complaints in this thread are literally complaints of too hard
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>>273765763
Yeah P2 had serious problems, that doesn't change the fact that it cut a whole bunch of features and 3 cut even more, some of which were actually fucking good like the rumours one
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>>273762053
Doesn't help that the sound is shit because it's on the DS.
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>>273763691
>more than twen....

Scrolled down immediately, from that point
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>>273765660
I haven't gotten into the PSP versions, but weren't the rumors a core feature of the Persona 2 setup?
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>>273765656

It's more like classic SMT with persona characters, no social aspects at all thank fuck
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>>273765859
>Persona 5

It's been almost fucking 3 months since that trailer. If we don't see something in December I'm going to fucking burn my dread.
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>>273765967
They were.
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>game is too hard
>game is too long
>game is in first person
>game is not an escapist fantasy
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WHO RISKY HERE
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I'm doing fucking backflips over this game. 18 hours in 3 days and it's my GOTY and everything I wanted it to be. The only gripe is that it opened the floodgates for P3/4 fucks to make threads like this and ruin Etrian
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>>273765802

I got an early SMT vibe off it, but the lack of demon negotiation alone makes it more EO than SMT
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>>273766106
I'm playing on Risky and loving it
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>>273766106
why make a post like this, do you jerk off to an endless stream of people replying "yes that is me" or something? I bet you do faggot
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>play PQ
>Actually have to think while in battle

Shame that P5 will probably have worse gameplay and dungeons than this
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>buffs/debuffs work like in P3/P4
why
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>/v/ is this casual

Sweet Jesus...
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who are the strongest characters? please answer?
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Rei-chan is so cute.
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>>273766105
It's pretty funny watching Persona kids complaining about this. It's things you'd normally welcome in every other game

Like shell shock or something
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>>273765802


I know that Mapping and FOEs are from Etrian Odyssey.

I'm talking about the battle system and how, in Risky, if the MC dies you lose.


>>273765824
Oh I wasn't talking about using party members to protect the MC. I'm talking about YOU, the player, protecting the MC by not making shitty decisions and having shit Personas equipped. I played FES, because who the fuck bought a PSP.


Get good.
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>>273766062
I mean, it's more that they're IS/EP's twist rather than a feature that was intended to be permanent.
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>>273766106
I'm sorry, /v/, I wanted to try Risky, but I went for Hard because I didn't want to get into something I couldn't handle. I'll try Risky when I play P4 side.

Is there anything you get for completing both stories? Like, maybe, a third story?
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>>273766292
I keep hearing Naoto is ridiculous.
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>>273766038
We will see something by mid Feb 100% sure
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>>273764306
There are thousands of games that take under ten hours. Every game does not need to line up with your personal responsibility you just sound ignorant.
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>>273764342
do you have anymore of those kinds of pics? I would appreciate it if you could share it with us anon.
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>>273766167
Don't worry anon, EO's finally been taken out of remake territory, look forward to 5
>>273766240
because it uses the EO engine you fucking retard, besides Persona managed buffs awfully. Cozy would've committed suduko if he made a game where your party loses the buff effect one at a time and you can't use the buff again until your whole team has lost the effect
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>>273766292
The ones you don't like.
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how much marie is in this game?
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>>273766240
Because it's also how it works in EO.

>>273766336
Yup.
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>>273766328
>because who the fuck bought a PSP

A lot of people
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>>273762053
>Personafags actually get a good game for once
>Don't like it.

Persona 3 especially is objectively a horribly designed game, if you like that but hate this I'm sorry, you have shit taste.
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>>273766342


I heard you get their Ultimate Personas if you use both MCs throughout the whole game.
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>>273766328
>don't make shitty decisions
>Can't make decisions at all for over half the party
>Get good lawl
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>>273766387
>Every game does not need to line up with your personal responsibility you just sound ignorant.

There's no such thing as niche audiences anymore, if a game can't or doesn't appeal to everyone while not morally offending anyone then it's shit.

There are people out there that genuinely hold such beliefs.
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>>273766240
DROPPED
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>>273766363
Yeah with the whole NIGHT OF THE PHANTOM live concert. But that's 2 months away.
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>>273766292
Naoto is mad good because Hama/Mudo is actually good in this game.
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>>273766402
Kaneko's art is all over the internet anon, I think there's an artbook of his stuff in the OP of /smtg/ if you want to check there
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>>273766542
Good thing I read that spoiler
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i didnt like it but i was never an etrian odyssey fan.
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>>273766474
I especially love the guys complaining about the dungeons but are praising Tartare Sauce
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I should probably be putting the P3MC in the back row right?

Man is way too squishy
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>>273766573

It's not that it's good. It's because it's finally fucking viable. Also her luck is through the roof.
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Thank fuck p5 didn't end up on anything nintendo. The discussions would have been terrible.
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>>273766328

I guess the Risky thing isn't exactly from EO. I thought it was a callback to P3 however. Either way I enjoy Risky, I don't see myself playing on any lower difficulty. The battle system is more like EO however. SP HP settings and the demon skills may be more akin to SMT but I would say stuff like the leader skill is EO. Either way all the elements it uses are great.
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>>273766709
Buy armor, nigga.
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>>273766539

Pretty sure it's persona kids, actually. Nintendo fanboys have been playing EO and SMT for a few gens now
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>>273766443

More than Arena 2, less than P4G.

You will have to deal with her shitty poems again.
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TOXIC SLICE
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>>273766539
>vitafags get P4 Casual Edition
>ninten"babbies" get Overclocked, Break Record, Soul Hackers SMT IV, PQ, EOU 1, 2 and EO 4
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>>273766240
It's been years since i've played those 2 games, how were the buffs/debuffs different compared to mainline smt again?
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>>273766292
Basically the strongest team synergy will have Minato and Yu in the front row, and Naoto in the back, and never using Teddie unless you have to for specific sidequests.
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>>273763691
>More than 20 hours for a single game is overkill

http://www.miniclip.com/games/en/
here is something appropiate for you people
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>>273766873
Works for all party members/enemies and they don't worn out after X turns
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>>273766870
>Break Record

Localization fucking when

I've been waiting on it for goddamn years
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>>273766870
I personally didn't enjoy Soul Hackers, it felt antiquated. I hope to see Break Record come over.
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>>273766873
Mainline doesn't remove buffs one by one and in IV they don't run out unless a boss uses Dekunda which only a few bosses have
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I liked SMT4. I liked Persona 3. I've only played these.

Is it safe to say I will like this game?
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>>273766870
Don't forget EO and Mystery Dungeon and (probably) EO 5
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>>273767040
Probably.
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>>273766539

>casuals ruining Persona
>Persona players aren't the casuals ruining EO/SMT with this shit

Nintendo players have had EO and SMT games for a good long time now. They're not complaining. The people complaining are probably the vitagen and personafags that have never played an EO or SMT game in their life.

I know this is bait but fuck you.
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>>273767040
Might want to at least an Etrian Odyssey demo.
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>>273763262
>characters are flat as your mother's chest
that's because half of them are from persona 4 which is easily the worst entry in the series
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>>273767074
Okay kid
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>>273766998
Japan in mid 2015
America in 2016
Europe never

>>273767008
It was a Saturn game, I liked it myself even if the dungeons were a bit average by SMT standards.
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>>273767160
>easily the worst entry in the series
>not P1 or P2IS
4 can be bad but not as bad as those two.
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>>273766552
Well better then never, but my guess is Feb shit ton of info.

Japan release summer, other regions fall/Winter 2015.

There's also a chance we get more info by the end of this year too.
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>>273766292
Shinji, Yosuke, Rei/Zen, Aigis is the best team
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>Personafans get a game with great dungeons
>hope that this brings the fanbases closer
>Whole thread is just meaningless bickering as usual

>>273767040
Probably
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>>273767245
>Innocent Sin
>bad
I'm getting a bit hot under the collar here
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>>273767248
I'm hype as fuck for P5. It's been so fucking long since P4 came out
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>>273767302
I don't want Personafags to get any closer to EO than necessary. Fuck them.
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>>273765651
>>273765767
>Gameplay
>Worst of P4

Are autistic P3fags this dense? Its universally agreed that P4's gameplay was its BIGGEST strength, even with an underwhelming story.

P3P is the only playable version of P3 to date, i'd guarantee that the port wouldn't have gotten its praise (visual novel shit aside) if it didn't take notes from P4's mechanics, which are factually superior to FES' FFXIII-tier dogshit combat.
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>>273764142
>Persona characters
>Developing ever
With the exception of Kanji every S.Link consists purely of
>I HATE X SO MUCH!
>Oh wait, no I don't
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>>273767302
>wanting those plebs to contaminate EO and SMT
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>>273767302
>expecting anything from Personages

Why?
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>>273767339
Take off your clothes, Maya.
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>>273767429
Reported for shitposting
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>>273767430
It's biggest strength in comparison to P3 which was hardly an example of tight combat
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>>273767437
>>273767385
I just want everyone to be friends.
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>>273766646
>Strength Demifiend
Shit art.
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>>273767490
reported for announcing reports
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>>273767241
Fuck I loved soul hackers. Played it on the 3DS last year and it felt so modern
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>>273767542
This isn't a Social Link, anon.
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>>273767430
It's characters and twist was the only good thing about the game. Visit an actual persona thread for once instead of a waifu thread
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>>273767579
>not always being in the world of STR
I bet you build luck don't you faggot
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Skin mods for PQ when?
>>273767663
Great taste, nigga. Now go do a Luck/VIT/EN run
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>>273767245
P1/P2 duology isn't nearly as bad as literally everything P4 does
>shitty jpop is the BEST part of the game easily
>all characters revolve around you and suck your dick
>worst fucking plot
>worst persona designs by a landslide
>all the fucking "humor" is LOL U LIKE DOODS/LOL YOU LOOK LIKE DUDES

innocent sin is the best in the series, shortly followed by eternal punishment

you clearly just have shit taste
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>>273767780
That's jarring that pic is

>>273767783
Good idea
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>>273766292

Physical attackers in general are pretty good. Chie is really nice around the second dungeon because she gets Power Charge at level 15. She basically fishes for sleep and critical hits, and it actually works.
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>>273767834
be grateful anon, if it wasn't for 4, you would never have played the series
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>>273767834
>muh hitler
>lel rumors become reality XDD
>le lovecraft monster for nerds like us
>disco ost because born in le wrong generation
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>>273767941
Now this is shitposting
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>buy online
>probably wil take one week
>meanwhile everyone is playing
Fuck, Soul Hackers and SMT IV all over again
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>>273763195
You don't meet the other team until the boss of the first labyrinth, it's only 2 floors long though
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>>273768171
I pre-ordered the LE on Amazon with free shipping. They got it to me on release day.
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>>273767929
I played P3P first faggot

and I hated the social aspect because it could've been done well but it was so fucking hamfisted
so I tried IS and it was 12/10 GOTYAY

>>273767937
>shitposting trying to think of a reason to actually discredit P2
>LITERALLY cannot do it even when putting LE and XD in front of shit
P4babby go home, I'm sorry your anus was annihilated.
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Wait... Its out? For how long now?
I fucking pre-ordered the limited edition and ebgames never called to remind me.
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>>273768316
Here, have this.
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>>273768335
Came out on the 25th.
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>>273768335
Four days now.
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>>273767453
>>273767437
>>273767385
Echo chamber: the thread
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>>273763262
>First Person dungeons
>No social links
>Flat chests
I'll take 20
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>>273768316
yes and p3p existed because of the popularity of p4

it was also an experiemnt as to p4 golden was going to be

Be. Grateful.
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>>273768501
shh personage shh

nobody likes your fanbase
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>>273766740

The only thing I hate about Risky is instant kill moves. Fuck you Liz I can't even get Resist Light yet.
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>>273768535
I would've just ended up playing p3fes because I like to play shit in order and I hadn't heard of P1/P2 at the time
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Personally love the dungeon crawling genre. Can't wait to pick my copy of this up, especially after all the time I've put into the EO series.

I understand it's not everyone's cup of tea, most of the games in this genre are pretty tough and your average video game player doesn't like to strategize so they think everything is beat with mindless hours of grinding.
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>>273766682
Worst dungeon in the fucking series for sure.
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I just started EO IV but I expect to receive Persona Q on Monday. Should I get through EO IV first or just tide myself over with other stuff until Monday? I need someone to make decisions for me.
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>>273768824
It's a Persona game, I can't imagine that it'll be even remotely difficult. Guess I'll see when it comes in, though.
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>>273768970
Personal bias, yes, play EO4. As someone who put 44 hours into the demo and another 130 hours into the actual game, it's great and has plenty of content.

>>273769041
I haven't gotten into the persona series yet. I've played SMT and EO. Most likely will get into it once I get a Vita.
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>>273768970
I think you can get through PQ faster, unless you decide to play through both sides.
Either way, both are games to take your time with, so don't rush either to play the other. Try to get the most out of them. They have different battle gameplay, so feel free to play through them together.
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>>273766870
>"babbies"
>The Untold series

sounds about right
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Rei-chan is so kawaii like holy shit.

Got a question. The treasure chest that requires you to map the area to unlock. Do I have to walk over all the floor panels? 'Cause I tried just painting it in, but it looks like it didn't register. Am I using the wrong color for the floor or something?
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>>273769041

The difficulty is okay, but I'm playing on Risky. It goes all over the place, they give you a lot of options and tools that make things easy, but at the same time enemies can end up squashing you like nothing. For example, one of the FOE in the second dungeon is downright menacing, but then the boss of the same dungeon goes down like a joke. The SP cost of skills is insane though. Power and Mind Charge cost 40 SP, mid tier elemental skills cost 28 SP, and so on and so on.

>>273769432

You have to walk on all of them. It's a bit tedious.
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So this would be a good game for someone who doesn't like persona all that much, but thinks the opposite of the EO series?
Neato. I'll be picking this up then.
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epic thread guys
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I want a Rei.
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>>273769331
>"Muh niche game" ruined by optional story mode

EOU3 is gonna be fucking GOAT.
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>>273769593
Depends on why you don't like P3/P4. If you didn't like the high school sim aspect, but liked the battle gameplay and tolerated the characters, I think you'll love this.
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>>273769701

She already has a protector, fuck off.
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Best girl.
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>>273768970
Honestly, I was worried I might be burned out, since I finished EO4 a few days before PQ came out.

But even if they're both dungeon crawlers and the battle system is essentially the same, the emphasis on pre-defined characters(in terms of personality and broader combat niches), and the "Boost" system, where hitting enemy weaknesses lets you use a special ability without the HP or SP cost the next turn, sort of PQ's version of Press-Turn, and Persona customization/fusion makes Persona Q a very different beast from Etrian Odyssey, in the sum of its parts.

I'd say just get as far as you can into EO4 before giving PQ a shot.
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>>273769593

Maybe. If you don't like the characters of P3 or P4, you'll get annoyed by the side event stuff. The battles are mixed between EO and Persona. You have stuff like All Out Attack, knocking down enemies when you hit a weakness sometimes and assist attacks, but there's a lot of EO style skills like elemental links, chasers, binds and whatnot.
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never played an EO game before, but I love smt/persona. really liking PQ so far and will probably pick up EO4 if the game play is similar.

will probably still duck out discussing them on /v/ because of threads like this. I'm a shit eating weeaboo but some people it are still off the deep end.
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This thread is proof that this board is awful during they day. This game really surprised me how good it is. It took elements from the older Persona games, like elemental physical skills, first person dungeon crawling, and status effects actually being really damn useful, and putting it back into the newer Persona skin. Plus, the lack of social links lets the game actually be about RPG gameplay, and it's great. I like just having characters interact with each other without them having to bring up all their heavy stuff like I HATE MY MOM or whatever. Plus Shinjiro being in the whole game is great. His interactions with Akihiko are great.
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what EO game should i start with?

i can only get the 3ds demos of untold and 4 because i have no money. are the games connected to each other
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>>273770371
Shinjiro was 10/10 in this game. I like how he puts Akihiko in his place when he starts acting like a protein baby.
LEARN TO RESPECT YOUR FOOD
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>>273762053
>no relationshits so not fun
Persona fags again.
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>>273770521
Probably EOU as it has a complete remake of the first DS game.
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>>273770521
There's some vague connections between each game that become mostly tenuous and cameos the further you get. It's really more of a "Hey thanks for sticking with the series this long" rather than actual continuity, so you can dive into 4 or Untold right away.
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It's great so far, much better than SMT IV and slightly above EOIV in my opinion. Characters are reduced to their simplest expression in cutscenes but considering there's a lot more focus on the battle system it's cool.

I would have preferred complete control over both main and sub personas but it's already a great step from customization being restricted to the MC in 3 and 4.
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>>273770371
>Plus Shinjiro being in the whole game is great. His interactions with Akihiko are great.

It's sad, this is most likely the last we'll ever see of him.
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>>273770521
Not connected story-wise, but they do build off each other in terms of gameplay. You could either start with the best game, EO4, or you could start at the beginning with the remake, EOU. If you really can't wait and want to start now, you could emulate 1-3, but the first game is really broken. Some skills are needed to beat the game and some are completely useless.
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>>273770610
Epic fake quote man, you sure showed them.
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>>273767430
I'm saying it right now
P3Fes>P3P
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Game feels and plays just like a Persona game minus the dating shit. Have nothing to complain about; game is awesome. A much better game than what SMT4 was.
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>>273762053
how bullshit is this?

it's SMT + EO, two of the most bullshit series out there for just saying "fuck you, you die now"
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>>273770521
If you want to be a manly man, you go in chronological order. Because if you start from 3 and up, going back to 1 and 2 will be a nightmare.

Otherwise start from 3, 4 or Untold
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Hahah faggot nintenyerolds were bragging how they got a persona game when nobody cared and now they realized they got a shit tier shovelware game hahah

suck it up babies and just get a vita for the superior Persona games and a PS3 for whenever 5 comes out. Stay jelly
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>>273770371

One thing I think is funny is the complete lack of stat balance between the characters. It's actually not a complaint in my case, seeing Teddie with his pathetic as hell stats compared to anyone else is hilarious.
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>>273770736
>I would have preferred complete control over both main and sub personas
What do you mean with this, just being able to switch them out like in P2 instead of them being "subs"? That's what I was expecting, but I'm pleased with how it turned out.
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>>273770782
We'll see more of him when FeMC becomes canon, right?
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>>273770883
Most people agree with this and would recommend FES to someone playing P3 for the first time. P3P is really only if you absolutely can't play FES or if you want to play as a girl.
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>>273770914
It's more like the first Persona in terms of difficulty. I've been playing on hard, so it's just a step above normal, but I've had to rely on panic spells a lot so far to get me out of shit. The game is tough but fair.
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>>273770926
who said i didn't have a vita, 3ds, and ps3
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The production value for this game are pretty impressive. A lot of voiced events, character models look good, dungeon design looks good. I'm honestly impressed.
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>>273771140

Then you arent a nintenyearold are you? Youre just a weeb faggot
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>>273770926
haha if you'd read around you'd see that the only people complaining about the game is are people like you haha it's people who thought they were buying another babyshit easy game like P3P instead of a real game that requires actual strategy haha
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>>273770923
I'd actually argue that it's fine starting from 3, playing 4, then going back to the older games since the first three are so much different in terms of gameplay than the newer games. 3 and 4 are way too similar to go back between them, though.
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>Cute Baby
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>>273770914
Not really bullshit. Super manageable in my experience.
>>273770993
Either that or switching both main and sub around, now you need to stick with your base weaknesses or sacrifice ability spots in order to get red of them.
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>>273770926
Nintendo fans get Persona games Sony fans will never play.

Sony fans get Persona games that Nintendo fans will never play.

People with money get all the games because they can afford to buy all the systems and don't limit themselves based of elementary schoolyard brand wars.

Fat wallets wins again neckbeards!
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>>273771130
>but I've had to rely on panic spells a lot so far
oh boy. I rarely use those in RPGs

>The game is tough but fair.
they said that for the other EO games but if you don't have the right set-up, you are fucked.
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I know it's shallow but the only first person dungeon crawler game I've ever managed to get into was Rance 6 and that's just because the Rance story is interesting enough to carry me to the end. All I want to do is see my little character model/sprite run around in the dungeon instead why couldnt they have done that.
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>>273771147
They got the Persona money so they can afford to do more than static portraits and rudimentary animations.
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>>273771260

Where did I complain? Learn to read faggot
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>>273771130

Risky is mostly fair from what I've played, although you have to watch out for bullshit instant kill moves. I'd recommend playing as the P4MC on Risky just because he's immune to Mudo.
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>>273764041
Atlus likes to do that. 4-8 songs and call it a full soundtrack. Bought Conception 2 and got irritated with that. Same with Code Of Princess.
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>>273771306
Don't worry about that. the team building is less in depth compared to EO.
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>>273762053
>mfw im loving the game
>mfw everything is fun and entertaining
>mfw persona faggots whine about the game
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>tfw we'll never get a Q 2 because muh canon
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>>273771306

It's a lot more forgiving than the EO games in that sense. Your main character should be good at just about everything, and most of the characters fill a certain role. If you're having trouble, you can just change their sub-persona to give them the skills they need, no leveling down needed.
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>>273764041
>>273771449
>not appreciating dat God tier Hori 3DS case
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>>273771684
>Your main character should be good at just about everything

does he have the Wild card ability and can switch Personas mid battle?
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>>273771648

>2 spinoff fighting games
>a spinoff dungeon crawler
>a spinoff dancing rhythm game

>thinks they care abou muh cannon

how dumb are you?
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>>273771648
What if they did it but for SJ and Nocturne or SMT4?
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>>273771573
I'm a persona faggot and i loved the dungeons and combat in the games that' apparently absolutely horrible

A persona game that focuses more on the dungeons with a different kind of gameplay is awesome
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>>273771906
That's SMT X FE. It just has Fire Emblem characters too.
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>>273771931
You should try out Persona 1.
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>>273771820
No. Everyone can switch a sub Persona, though.
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>>273771931
>Has never played P1 or P2
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>>273771820

No, he's the same as everyone else, but the MCs have higher stats than everyone else. P4MC is extremely balanced, while the P3MC has monster magic and agility with his only bad stat being endurance. You can mold them to suit whatever you need better than anyone else.
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>>273772017
Isn't that going to be a fighting game?
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Shit is so slow and boring, the fan service part is just cringe worthy

Its not polished enough to be a Persona and too casualized to be an EQ title

wait until a sale or just straight up skip it
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Been playing the game like crazy, whats the problem with it?
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When do you think SMT V will be out?
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>>273772190
The only thing we got out of Atlus and IntSys so far is "RPG" which is the purview of SMT and at least 3/4ths of the SRPG genre that FE belongs to.
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>>273772314
Sonyfags being BTFO. The game is fine, Autist like
>>273772194

Who want shitlord games will whine about it
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>>273772194
How does it compare to Devil Survivor, SJ ?
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>>273763315
>>273763681
>>273764564
>>273764870
>>273764902
>>273765593
>>273765656
>>273765852
>>273766474
>>273766784
>>273767385
>>273767453
>>273767437
>>273768564
>>273770610
>>273771573
epic thread, I hope samefagging's involved.
>>273772314
There's no problem with it, it's a great melting pot of both EO and Persona.
>>273772326
Maybe we'll hear about it after P5 drops.
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>>273772024
>>273772140
okay then
if they have gameplay that great
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>>273762053
>Buy PQ Wild cards edition
>Never play EO, just play JRPG's occasionally
>Start playing on hard
>barely have any trouble
>it's fun
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>paying 50 USD for a 3DS game

P3/4fags really are the worst.
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>>273772419
DS is a great SRPG game and SJ is the hall mark of a handheld SMT

This game can't hold a candle to both of them and quite frankly it's a shit SMT game. Definitely not worth as full priced unless you are a collector

>>273772412
?
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>>273762053


Honestly the hype from the new EOs made me completely forget about it, and I went back to trying to finish up EOU. How long on average does it take for the prices to go down?
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>>273771371
it's ok you didn't complain but you wanted to complain haha you are just as pathetic as the other bitches who began playing video games with P3P haha
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>>273772914
GOING GORILLAS BANANAS
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Been told PQ is really good. But I don't know. I like the SMT branch of the games more. I've been told while SMT uses demons and go for the whole mythical plots of killing gods and demons along with being more direct with settings, Persona uses embodiments of people's souls or something? All while doing the typical high school student anime cliche plot shit. Can't stand that crap. But I have not heard as much hype for a Persona game like PQ. Am I missing out at all?
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>>273773478

Man, I love how goofy the lyrics are.
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It's pretty decent but clearly inferior to EO games or Dungeon Travelers 2.
That being said it's infinitly better than Persona 3 or 4.
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>>273773602
You will get more enjoyment by picking up 2 or 3 ds, 3ds EQ, SMT or just emulate the Persona games on PC than spending $50 + (there will be DLC) on this garbage.

Inferior persona game and a half ass EQ, avoid it as your first SMT game.
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>>273774031
DLCs are mostly voices anyway right?
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>>273774031
You're acting like they're forcing you to buy the DLC.
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>>273773602

I'd say it's pretty good, although the little events can be a real drag for anyone that doesn't like it. That said, in some ways it feels like Untold Story mode done right. You're not forced into a certain party which can be a real drag for some people.
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Kanji has by far the funniest lines in the game.

"Hey! It's one of 'em SOB's you guys keep talking about!"

>mfw
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>>273773602
Persona games are good, there's just a negative stigma against it because of /v/'s tendency to think in extremes. While 3 and 4 have more dialogue and time planning than dungeon-crawling, Persona Q's the opposite, it's nearly completely about the dungeon crawling.

Persona goes after a more personal message than the SMT games that are more about the epic clashing of law and chaos with humanity in between. 3 is about the inevitability of death and its effect on everyone (a bit like Majora's Mask in a way) and 4 is about mankind's inability to accept its own flaws. I dunno what's PQ about yet because there's not as much dialogue and it seems inconsequential.
>>273774031
>I like the SMT branch of the games
learn to read. Plus, SMTIV wasn't very good and Untold was less enjoyable than PQ in my opinion.
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>>273773602
This is basically Persona 4.3: The Fan Service.

At least play one of above tittle first or just don't bother
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>>273774031
I thought the DLC was just gonna be new navigators (Marie, Nanako, etc.)
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>>273774031
what EQ game should I pick up
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>>273763262
So it's Strange Journey: Persona Edition.

> bad
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>>273770845
>EOIV
>Best

Nah, it had really simple maps, the least amount of content in an EO yet, and was by far the easiest game in the series. That said, i fucking love the game but I wouldn't call it the best.
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>>273764395
>encounter a long game I can chip away at for weeks.
This. I'm planing to pick up a psvita and a couple vita games (like Persona 4 Golden, Freedom Wars and Gravity Rush) this Christmas. Nothing beats curling up in a warm room while it's cold, damp and icy outside and getting lost in a game for hours. Also gonna pick up Final Fantasy 10 HD.
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>>273775743

I probably would call it the best if it fixed the difficulty and content at least. I'd still place it decently high though.
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>>273776060
Same here. It's actually my second favorite.
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>>273775152
Navigators and four Personas: Thanatos and Magatsu-Izanagi are $2 each, then Kaguya and Orpheus Telos are free.
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What are the beatles weak to? I hate having to waste my revival beads when fighting them.
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So it's like the older games? Yikes, gonna wait for P5.
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>>273762053
>mfw persona fags go and buy Q
>mfw they cry about Q not being P3/P4
>mfw persona fags do not get to spend days doing social shit instead get more gameplay.
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>>273762053
What's with this artstyle?
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>>273762053
>add two new characters
>one is a grumpy faggot with a spiked collar
>the other is a 2CYOOT LEL ILOVE EATING FOOD XD anime cliche forced in

What a fucking nightmare.
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>>273777261
>franchise is all about social links and related to high school that make up for the goddawful gameplay
>make a new game for the fans
>OH GREAT
>the only thing there is the boring gameplay
If you like to eat shit just go to GTA threads and never come back, fucking nigger faggot.
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>>273777261
one more to the heap
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>>273776334

I've been wondering, what the fuck is up with the DLC Atlus puts out? They don't pander to audience of their games at all.

Where is my Naoto Bikini DLC for Persona Ultimax? Where is my Yukiko in nothing but a towel DLC? WHERE IS MY LOVE HOTEL YUKARI EXTENDED EDITION WITH 5 MORE SECONDS OF SIDE BOOB ATLUS????

WHERE????????????
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>>273777308
It's cute/
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>>273777515
>all about social links
>only 2 of the 4 games involve social links

Nice try faggot.
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>>273763656
>>273763668
>>273764784
>>273764946
>>273765342
>>273765802
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>>273766168
>>273766646
>>273766740
>>273766784
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>>273770914
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>>273772905
>>273774535
I'd like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Persona, is in fact, SMT/Persona, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Megami Ibunroku Persona. Persona is not a series unto itself, but rather another timeline of the fully functioning Megami Tensei Multiverse, made useful by the SMT Press Turn system, demons, and ideas comprising of a full game.

Many Persona players run a modified version of the MegaTen system every time they play, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the timeline of the MegaTen multiverse which is widely played today is often called “Persona”, and many of its players are not aware that it is basically a MegaTen game, developed by Atlus. There really is a Persona series, and these people are playing it, but it is just a part of the series they play.

Persona is a spinoff: It shares concepts with the rest of the MegaTen series. The spinoff is part of the series, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete multiverse. Persona is normally used in combination with the MegaTen multiverse: the whole game is basically Shin Megami Tensei with Persona added, thus making it SMT/Persona. All the so-called “Persona” games are really games of SMT/Persona.
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>>273777681
Because they aren't Capcom-tier just yet.
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>>273778173
Thanks for the wise words Richard.
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>>273778173
Beautiful copy pasta, friend.
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>>273778149
1 and 2 aren't canon and 3 rebooted the series so why should we care about them? Also they are edgy and grimdark so whatever
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>>273778707
Only IS isn't canon (though for everything that matters it kinda is.

They aren't that grimdark either, just SMT in highschool.
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>>273778707
IS is technically non-canon given what happened in EP, but Revelations and Eternal Punishment are still canon.
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>>273765209
How can persona fags be so oblivious? There are multiple persona waifu threads every day.
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Why is the Persona 3 cast so great?

I hate literally none of them.
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>>273779698
>gasp, the enemy
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>>273780863

pls no bully
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>>273771449
>That was not what I was expecting
atlus usa posted some scans of the artbook and we knew what the CD was already because it was a pre-order bonus in japan
i'm not saying they aren't shitty but not knowing how shitty they were is all your fault
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>>273779698

Not even Ken?
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>>273779698
Because they're generic animu badasses instead of typical teenagers like other Persona characters
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>>273779009
>>273779130
canon, my ass, they literally do not matter to the series. The most is a throwaway line to the Nanjo Group
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>mfw Personages honestly complaining that the same shitty characters they've been circlejerking about for years are now "flat"

They were always fucking flat, your autism imagined the rest
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>>273782389
wow, stop spamming any time.
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>>273776747
Yoko
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>>273782329
>Joonpay-koon
>Badass
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Aside from this one, is Makoto going to come back someday?
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>>273765024

I mean, it is kind of horseshit that there isn't enough room for canon names.
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>>273785258
He returned to run the VR together with Yu in Cyber Maze event in Tokyo.
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>>273785738
Like I said, aside from this game - is he going to return for good?
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Bought it on release
It's being pretty fun so far and kinda challenging on Hard
I choose P3 cast and I'm having a lot of fun
I love the way dungeons are, I wish the other persona games were more like this in this aspect

So far only complaints is lack of dual VA ( like always from Atlus, not that I was expecting anything else)
A little more variety in the songs would be cool
Battle animations would be cool but I realize they don't fit too much with the game's style so not really a problem

I wouldn't mind it if P5 was more like this, they could even scrap the Social links if they add more character interaction in dungeons like this game has and it would still be cool.

Solid 9/10 for me
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>>273786708
>P5
>scrap Social Links

My dick would be rock hard. Too bad it'll never happen.
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okay
Can Runic shield not be inherited/
I just got it on Oberon and I'm trying to pass it off but it's just not showing up in fusion
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>>273778149
2 of the 5 games* or 6 if you want to include If...
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>>273782198
technically, at the time of Persona Q, there's not much of a reason to hate Ken
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>>273786073
The way they forgot about Elizabeth in Ultimax makes me think they just gave up on this story.
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>>273786708
Pretty much what this guy said, but I picked P4 cast and I'm already a little tired from Teddie
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>mfw the combat and exploration is better than in 3 and 4
>mfw I like Q more than 3 and 4 combined
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>>273767478
>Take off your clothes, Maya.

> Take off your clothes, Katsuya.
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>>273769829
>>"Muh niche game" ruined by optional story mode
>EOU3 is gonna be fucking GOAT.

They'd better add dungeons from the boat. I would eat souls for that.
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>>273788218

Teddie ends up joining you in the P3 side anyways. I can expect him to bug you as much, I think it's kind of funny how even the P3 cast is tired of him even though they don't know him that much.
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are FOE's killable with enough prep or are they just bullshit level enemies?
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>>273788848
Killable with not much prep needed.
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>>273788327
have you tried any other Etrian Odyssey games? The combat isn't exactly the same, but it seems like you would enjoy them more than the persona games
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>>273777681
>I've been wondering, what the fuck is up with the DLC Atlus puts out? They don't pander to audience of their games at all.

I will never forgive them for the SMT IV DLC. That fucking neutered the game.
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>>273779009
>Only IS isn't canon (though for everything that matters it kinda is.

Amala Universe dude, stop thinking about it so hard.

Or, as YHWH would say, "HYPERCRISIS, ISRAEL."
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Post teams you faggolinis
>Brotag
>Mitsuru
>Yukiko
>Aigis
>Naoto
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>>273774031
>EQ

You stupid fucking idiot
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>>273789196
Hands in Pockets (named Chad Ziocok)
Chie
Teddie
Aigis
Yukari
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>>273789196
Replace Aigis with Raisin and that's my team.
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It's out? What i heard about it is that it feels like a Shin Megami Tensei game with the Personna III and IV cast. Is it good?
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>>273789196

P4MC
Chie
Junpei
Naoto
Yukari

Chie is so good, she's been carrying my team so hard.
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>>273789409
There are no 2hus in PQ
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>>273789196
mc, protag, junpei, raisin, naoto
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>>273789196
Everyone from the side I'm playing.
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>>273789482
>Chie is so good

Really? I dropped her for Aigis because she was terrible
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>>273789196
Front - Kanji, Aigis, Akihiko
Back - P3MC and Naoto

Can't decide if I should replace Kanji or Akihiko with P4MC
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is it best to go 3 front or 3 back?

who is best link user? going risky dont want to fuck up too much
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>>273789487
Rei and Zen, nigga. They are pretty damn good.
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So many butt devastated Scooby Gang fans around here.
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>>273788848
Killable with enough prep.

For example, the first FOEs on the first floor of Wonderland?

Try taking them out after you're strong enough to explore the third floor of Wonderland.

It's all about buffs, debuffs and keeping your health up.

Many FOEs have a weakness you can easily exploit for Boosts and higher chances of follow up attacks and all-out attacks.

The real trick is just getting your characters hardy enough to take a hit from them and survive the assault of status effects.
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>>273789196
Aigis Akihiko Shinji
Door Mitsuru

Decided to go full P3 because it's the cast I like more by far
The urge to be a minmaxing faggot and swap Shinji for Kanji and Mitsuru for Naoto is hitting my really hard. Those two are the least useful in my party right now, but are also my favorite characters out of the whole cast

Does anybody know if the story changes enough to replay it starting as the other group? OR is it exactly the same after they meet up?
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