AMD FX-6300

Get an FX-8350

>AMD
Not even once. I only buy eco-friendly CPUs.

>>273377454
just go for i5

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>>273377454
Postin mah specs. The 970/980 was an amazing launch, really cool running card, everyone should consider a 970 at least.

>>273377454
an i3 is faster even though it has one less core

>>273377756
are you fucking serious?
6 - 1 = 5
the i3 has 2 cores

either you are unaware of the fx6300 core count (even though it's on the picture) or you failed really badly at maths

>>273377743

>consider a 970/980

yea unless you are using multiple cards, then use the R9 series, the r9 290 scales all the way up to 4 cards. the 980 has issues at 2.

Also 20w lower power draw does not make it a better card.

>>273377810
its only 3 real cores

>>273377756

>hyperthreading is coars

>>273377841
Okay, ill just set my computer on fire then, it would probably still be cooler than a r9

>>273377858
>3 real cores

Wrong, its 6 real cores that share 2 sets of resources.

Get it right..

Just like how the FX-8350 and up have 8 physical cores and share 2 sets of resources.

They are real, unlike intels hyper-threading emulation.

>>273377991
Cores that can only work with integers are completely useless

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>>273377990

>refering to reference cards

Actually the R9 290 MSI runs cooler than the reference GTX 980 and all but the tri-wind 980/970.

Why do you shills always use out of date arguments. you want me to bring up firmi?

>>273377841
I'm sure anything that is lower than 94 degrees under load is a win

>>273378120
And that's why FX beats out intel in multicore performance huh?

>>273378182
>degrees

Get out merican, and take your clapping with you.

>>273378243
Yeah totally
I just ordered an FX
Thanks

>>273378179
>still reaches 89 degrees
>cooler than reference 980
My reference 980 never exceeds 75, just stop

>95W
>Intel equivalent does the same at 54W
Damn...

Don't get AMD unless you like getting bottlenecked on any crappy optimized game or any CPU heavy game for that matter

>>273378417

>degrees

STOP SAYING THAT!!!

>>273378506
Next you'll want me to be saying pounds instead of kilos, mate. A nice cold stubbie will cool ya off

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DO NOT BUY AMD

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>>273378417

>>273378673

No I want you to say C...saying degrees by itself refers to damn much to F.

>>273377724
>>273378426

Any i5 i can get is like 166%-200% the price of the FX-6300.

>>273378863
>4.2Ghz

>>273378951
Its ok if its below 95

>>273379010
That's because any i5 is leagues above FX6300. That CPU is comparable to i3 4xxx.

>>273379014
it's 4.5 ghz
i have cool and quiet enabled
it needs 4.2 ghz to watch anime and run firefox

>>273377454
Don't listen to Intel shills, an FX-6300 is a great CPU for gaming if you overclock it above 4.0Ghz and you can't beat the price either.

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The only AMD processor worth buying is the X4 860k and that's if you're a poorfag and it still loses to an overclockable pentium

I can say from experience that AMD make shit CPUs. i5/i7 or bust.

>>273379241

>not buying 955BE

Whats wrong with you anon?

>>273377454

>AMD focuses on physical cores
>Performance is shit
>Intel focuses on virtual cores
>blows AMD out of the CPU market

>>273379286
>Tfw still have an AMD Phenom II X4 955BE

Had it since 2009 and it still works fine for games today.

>>273377454
Don't buy AMD, their CPUs are slower than Intel's even at the same clock.
It's the same situation as with the old P4 vs A64, only Intel isn't a scumbag like AMD was and isn't putting the equivalent AMD Ghz next to its models.
Otherwise the i5 would be an i5 9999.

>>273379241
But the G3258 still has problems because it has no hyperthreading.

Get an Intel CPU and an AMD GPU
Best of both worlds.

>>273379516
>no hyperthreading
>problems
Literally one problem so far, and it concerns a Ubisoft rehash.

>>273379075

The point that the 980 runs significantly cooler than the 290x is only true if the 290x isn't set to uber and going by that bench the 980 actually runs hotter.

My own 290x (tri-x specifically) only hits 85c when massively overclocked - i'm using it at 1160 core 1475 (which is 5.9ghz) memory on air. I am aiming for 1200 core on air but I doubt I can get it stable with the sort of volts I would have to put through it.

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>>273379293

>blows out of the market

you read benchmarks like this don't you.

It actually pisses me off how much I see benchmarks made like this...

>>273379576
>AMD GPU
Yeah, if you want to play games two weeks after release while you wait for a decent driver to be released.

>>273378951
>AMD
>HOUSEFIRE
unlike Nvidia AMD never burned down a house

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> Games using only 2 cores

>>273379458

Same I still have mine, don't use it anymore though.

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I have a one, it's a good poorfag cpu and runs most modern games well but I think i5 is still an better investment.

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>>273377454
Built a budget PC last year with the CPU, it's pretty good, you could definitely do better with an extra €50 or €60 though. Still, I'd recommend it if you really don't have the cash to spare

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>you bought AMD
At least I got a nice metal box.

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I need to get a new CPU soon.

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>>273377454
/g/entoo here. For playing video games, an FX-6300 is just fine. Even better if you can overclock it.

The latest Intel i5's are obviously better but at the same time 2 and sometimes 3 times more expensive than AMD. When it comes to most games, the performance difference between AMD and Intel CPUs are minimal unless you plan on playing a CPU intensive game like Arma 3 or Planetside 2 where an Intel CPU will definitely give you better framerates.

If you're on a budget, stick with AMD.
If not or you plan on doing CPU intensive tasks, go with Intel.

>>273379704
>ruski jazik

>>273379815

I actually used mine as a M&M and mixed nut box for like 6 months.

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Isn't the 2 core pentium g3258 on par with the finest i7's in terms of core performance?

This would be the only reasonable choice for a poorfag since games don't benefit from added cores and multithreading that much anyway.

>>273380194

>GRID 2 and Autosport

Of course you have to be dedicated to like codies games, but those do take advantage of both amd physical cores and intel hyper threading.

>>273380194
>>273380260
intel chipset is better if you're using an ssd
my laptop with a sandy bridge i3 boots in like 7 seconds but my desktop with amd fx8350 takes 25 seconds to boot

OP here,
I'm building from scratch, with the intel stuff, i would probably end up with a $500-600 box that can't play any games, becus cheap/no GPU.
Unless i can use the gpu from my 32-bit machine... but it just seems a bit to expensive.
I'd think i'd rather skimp on the cpu a bit then on the gpu no?

>>273380260
Those game would run on a toster anyway.

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I have a 6300 OC to 4.5 with a sapphire r9 270. I can max everything and get 60 fps, unless it's Planetside 2, where I get 40 fps.

Originally I was running an amd4600+ with a 9800gt since 2008. How I could stand that I will never know.

>>273380398
Nigga, of your whole budget is $500 than you can easily get a 750ti.

>>273380398
For gaming you always put more cash into the GPU than CPU just dont be dumb and buy a CPU that will bottleneck the GPU

>>273379646
Toms still heavily weights their charts in Intel's favor by using two aging single threaded games. They need to at least add another multithreaded benchmark, or drop one of the old benchmarks.

>>273380502
what the

>>273380398
Get g3258 and 750ti. Cheapest mobo and cheapest 8gb of ram. You would need around 300w of psu power, but get a quality one, corsair psu's are good for example.

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>>273380372

My Fx-8350 with 840 Evo Pro 250 SSD as my main boots in 5-7 seconds everytime.

I think your system is fucked up anon.


>>273380403
Except they don't. there is a reason they use both games as benchmark tools..

Is an evo212 enough when OC-ing a 6350 to 4,2-4,5?

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>>273380260

>>273380709

Oh look more bullshit benchmarks.

My fx-8350 with 1 770 beats 120fps on the game.

>>273380372
I have an Phenom II CPU and a Sata 3 PNY SSD and my system only takes less than 5 seconds too boot up.

Are you using Windows 8.1 by any chance on your dekstop?

>>273380789
>all this shilling

>>273380709
Fuck, why would anyone buy an amd cpu?

>>273380895
both windows 7
laptop is using an ocz agility 3
desktop is a samsung 840 evo

>>273380709
Why does no one ever do price/performance benchmarks? we always get same GPU + different GPU when it would be much more interesting to see equal cost benchmarks to see just how much real performance spending an extra $100 on your CPU really gets you.

>>273380923
Sshilling is a reference to spending loads of money on intel products you fucking idiot.

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>>273380398
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/D6v6mG
you can switch the CPU and motherboard for a pentium if you want

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>>273380934
They would because they know that's bullshit.

Benchmark from a none biased website.

these are even 4k benchmarks..

http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/56/amd-fx-8350-powering-gtx-780-sli-vs-gtx-980-sli-at-4k/index.html

>>273377454
Got an FX-6350 in my gaming/HTPC machine. I have an i5 3570k in my Desktop and I don't see any difference between them when it comes to vidya.

>>273380947
Does your motherboard on your desktop support Sata III? If it doesn't or if you don't have the latest drivers for it, you may be getting reduced performance on your SSD.

>>273381178
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M5A99X_EVO_R20/specifications/
yes and yes

i did a fresh install and even tested on a fresh install on my laptop too and it still booted faster on my laptop

>>273380709

Those ruskies recently put out a cpu test for dragon age and it showed excellent core scaling and it had the 9590 right below intel's 6c/12t and 8c/16t chips (though the 3770k and whatever the fuck the 8c chip is had a pretty substantial lead).

>>273381130
>FX 8350 = 155€
>Intel 4930K = 533€

How the fuck does Intel get away with this?

>>273379616
I was merely being ironic

>>273381130

Man there is some shit going on for those test systems - the intel chip is using a goddamn water cooler vs the 8350 being stock (though the picture appears to have a evo hyper 212).

>>273381368
even so Mantle prefers Intel CPUs

>>273377454
I have that one and its pretty good for the price. Just get a good gpu and you are good to go

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>tfw I wanted to buy 6300 as an upgrade
>tfw AMD is kill CPU to go for APU

I want to switch to intel but I'm a poor fag

>>273381457
>inb4 hurr Intel is quality

>>273377454
Depends on what type of video games you want to play and what type of quality you want.

For 1080p/60FPS gaming at high/max settings right now, an overclocked FX-6300 and an R9 280X will get you that.

>>273381605

Mantle prefers any chip that has moar coars (which is the whole point) - but the biggest gains are had by the AMD chips. It is why in Mantle games i5's get left in the dust dust to no hyperthreading.

>>273381457
Because Intel has a much better marketing department than AMD and has used it for decades now to create the perception that AMD hardware is worse even at times when AMD had the undisputed best performance. Now that Intel has essentially succeeded in getting everyone ignoring AMD they're able to charge whatever they want.

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>>273381605
>>273381754

forgot pic
unless you have an over 1000$ CPU the 290x is still the best videocard

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>>273381383

Except that the R9 290x has better scaling at 4k than the GTX 780ti (yes that's right, the 780ti loses out to cards half its price) does when it comes to 3 and 4 GPU systems.

Buying AMD is way better when you jump into the 4k regions.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2359120

I'm sick of people spewing bullshit towards AMD when they don't even know what the fuck they are talking about.

>>273381567
It's been shown over and over on multiple sites that when it comes to 4k gaming AMD is winning out all around. and with the next generation of R9 300 using HBM we will see a even larger lead since Nvidia will also be sticking with out of date limited GDDR5 till about 2016.
Supported with more non biased benchmarks

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>>273381686
>120C motherboard
Jesus christ anon I know that motherboards dont have a cooling system but what the fuck

>>273381686
A 6300 would still be a good upgrade for you, but your first and biggest concern should be your monitor.

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>>273381686
I had a pretty good run with mine until now, gonna buy a new next year.

>>273380685
Yes, just make sure you get a quality mobo with a GOOD 4+1, or better yet, 8+2 power phase.

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Be a good goy and buy Intel pl0x

WARNING:
to everyone who is thinking about getting an FX-8350. It's a fine CPU and has very good performance, but there's a downside to it, a MAJOR one.

Buy an aftermarket cooler while you're at it if you dont want your CPU to cook itself with the stock cooler. AMD ships absolutely abysmal stock coolers for the FX-8350.

Trust me, it's a piece of trash and it easily gets the CPU up to dangerous temperatures. Also, it's loud as fuck.

>>273381818
You forgot that Intel bribed many tech stores to sell only Intel hardware and OEM pcs.

>>273381849
>1280x720

you realize those are CPU benchmarks, right?

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>>273381908
temp is fine. speccy is somehow not detecting it properly

>>273382049

>AMD ships shit coolers

So does intel, holy fuck, both companies suck at stock coolers come on anon. At least you don't feel like you are going to crush your CPU when you put on your CPU like you do with that intel twist lock clip shit.

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Even if you still overclock a FX 6300 to, let's say, to 4.3ghz, you'd still get your ass kicked by a fucking stock i3, while spending double of its power.

I'm showing a Ubishit port because you should be used on getting shitty ports for this generation. So you'd be double fucked by choosing AMD.

But if you still don't believe it, pick ANY benchmarks from here and you'll see the pattern eternally repeating.

http://gamegpu.ru/%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82-gpu/action-/-fps-/-tps/

>>273377454
For gaming, AMD is just fine.
When you start doing CPU related tasks like emulating or video editing, Intel is the superior choice although more expensive.

>>273381879

IIRC the 970 doesn't even officially support 3 or 4 way sli (and again iirc the 980 only goes to 3 way) unless you get some modded drivers.

Crossfire scales all the way to 4 cards at least for the 290/x (dunno about older cards). It is lol to see various tech forums and sites across the net basically implode when the 980 has proven to be less than world ending - especially in sli.

>>273382095

No he doesn't.

>>273382104
Oh, ok anon, thanks for triggering my autism off

>tfw can't decide on what gpu to buy
i-is the 970 really that good?

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>>273382049
>tfw stock cooler on an X6
>shit never goes over 60c

What went wrong?

>>273382049
I bought a 9370 and holy fuck does it run hot. You pretty much need to have a decent aftermarket cooler for the 8 or 9 series CPU's expecialy if your overclocking

Stock coolers are allways shit tho.Its the same with intel

>>273382346
If short on money and don't want to wait - yes
If not wait for 300 Radeons, then choose

>>273382447
how much money we talking here
I can wait till february unless it gets delayed again

>>273382346

Just buy R9 290 MSI. Great card and it's its about $100 less in most cases. heck 200 if you buy it used.

>>273382547

R9 290 MSI costs $280 new and about $200 used.

I just recntly purchased 3 of them till the R9 300 series comes out. That's about 2.5 times the performance of a GTX 980 for the nearly the same cost.

>>273382095
>>273382247
yes i do. Mantle is better for you CPU even if you use Intel
at higher resolutions things would only get worse for Nvidia

>>273382426

My evo hyper 212 with a single noctua fan (p12 I think) will handle my 8320 at 4.2 - pushing it to 4.3 and then slamming the chip with something like the metro LL benchmark maxed out (save physx) pushes the chip beyond what the budget cooler can handle.

I need to fuck around with my fan config to see what I can do but i'm pleased with the performance right now.

>>273382547
Well for a strong-tier GPU it's pretty cheap ~100 dollarydos, probably much lower
Not sure about Radeons tho

>>273382814
Oh fuck i messed up with pricing it's around 190$

>>273382352
same here dude, but you have to take into consideration that 60 is the ceiling temp for phenoms. if it goes over 60 it's toast. obviously the stock cooler wont let it get that high.

tfw overclocked my 1100t to 4.2 with an aftermarket cooler, mas temps were 54°

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>>273382897
I'll just stop posting at this point because I've messed up again

>>273382897

970s are not around $190, they are all over $350 new, except for a handful of the cheaper crap company cards.

>>273379852
>Console ports
>Not CPU bound
Dude you pretty much have to have a good CPU nowadays if you want to play like 50% of games worth playing

>>273383013
>me

>>273383107
Well at least you caught yourself.

>>273382049
The big problem with the 8XXX (ignoring the most recent 8320E and 8370) chips is their 125w tdp. They're just power hungry as all fuck. That DOES mean heat, but it also means your board's VRM/MOSFET are getting stresses to shit. A hotter chip means more electrical resistance, meaning more stress on the voltage systems.

In short, the coolers are "OK" for running stock speeds, but even then, get a quality board. The VRMs on mine are fucking shit. Despite the heat spreader, i still had to install a small fan or else the system would throttle under load, even at stock with an aftermarket CPU cooler. Problem in my case was, the board assumed a downward facing fan to get air over the heat spreader. It's a trivial problem in the long run, for me, but the point stands.

That stock fans are "fine". Just get a decent mobo. Actually, fuck that. If you get one of the newer 95w FX-8xxxx chips you should be fine, since it is less power draw and heat.

>>273377454

I've got a 6350, OC'd it up a humble 4.2ghz and I've a hyper212EVO on it.

Stay's at a nice 35c even during full load.

>>273383140
not really, only shitty ports require a good CPU.
Anything that's actually optimized or worth playing would run fine on a FX-6300.

>>273383140
That's the thing. Virtually every desktop CPU in the last three years is a good CPU.

>>273383264

Like Valkrie chronicles. That game runs fantastic on pretty much anything from the last 7 years. a fantastic port.

Square could learn a thing or two from them.

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>>273379616
lots of amd 290 and 290x models have better cooling than the 970/980 gpus so they get better temps than say most 980 models now.


I dont get the point when all these gpus and their chips are rated to work at a higher temp anyway

>>273379815

That's actually really fucking neato.

I wish I got something like that with my 6350.

>>273383212
If only they'd get off their asses and release a three module 28nm socket FM2+ chip.

>>273383140
Considering that 95% of all the best games ever made were made before 2005, you don't.

>>273383414
I paid like $200 for it because haswell wasn't out and it was still competing with ivy bridge and I fell for the 8 core console meme.

>>273383382

Mostly due to the stress of rapid heating and subsequent cooling - that shit will kill anything.

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Sure thing AMDrone.

>>273383382
take into account that the r9 290X uses a much hotter chip and thereforce requries more powerful cooler solutions than the 970
what does this mean? it means that evga is shit. the apple of gpus

>>273383632

It uses 30 more watts at most.

That's not breaking the bank on anyone....

>>273383564

I'm, surprised it took this long for this benchmark to turn up - even /g/ has given up on its intel shilling and called that out as a worthless benchmark.

>>273383212
Who cares about power draw and heat. It's just pennies, and in what way do 10 degrees affect anything, much less you. You're not gonna keep your pc for 15 years.
Those lower power fx chips also have lower performance, just get any 8320+

>>273382049
The stock amd coolers on those 8 core fx cpus are much better than the garbage intel bundles with their cpus, so I dont get your beef

>>273383564

>using elderscrolls
>a DX9 game
>something AMD refuses to work on anymore

The bulldozer series came out after DX10, let alone 11, the chips were not focusing on DX9 games like skyrim *which is bullshit it was even DX9*.

>>273383353
Square just developed a completely garbage engine. It wasn't really made to be cross platform, and wasn't even good short of real-time cinematics. It was basically bootstrapped to run on PC. XIII-2 should fair better, because they planned for cross-platform from the 'start'. Mind, I still don't think it will be as 'good' as Valkyria Chronicles, but it should be worlds better than XIII.

That said, VC doesn't really do anything to merit being remotely taxing on any systems. I doubt it was even particularly taxing on the PS3 when it launched so many years ago.

Still, it does show Sega had a somewhat better engine to work with, partly because it was practically PS2 era tech with a few shaders slapped on. I won't discount Sega did a better job with the port regardless.

>>273383564
Note how the low framerate are "minimum".
The average framerate you get with the lowest CPU on that list is 90FPS.

>>273377454
>Is there a better price/performance CPU on the market right now?

No. It's also a great part - Ignore the >lol AMD!!! memes.

>What GPU should i get with a FX-6300?

For price/performance, right now, that depends on your budget. You can get an MSI GTX 760 right now for $180, which is kick ass. That's roughly double the performance of your PS4. Remember the $20 mail in rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127745&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

And that's the best price/performance GPU on the market by a significant margin right at the moment.

>>273377454
No reason to get a 6300 now; it'll bottle neck you next generation.

Are there any benchmarks of the X4 860k and FX6300? I heard the X4 860k is better because it has better single core performance but loses out to multicore stuff.
Also, I think the X4 860k is better since they have newer motherboards. It doesn't matter if FM2+ is a dead platform because AM3+ is dead too

>>273384282
No it won't, you cunt. It doesn't bottleneck my 970. It doesn't bottleneck anything, and it's going to be a damn long time before anything needs a card on a significantly higher level than the current flagships.

The FX 6300 is top-tier right now

>>273382646
>>273382552
so either the 970 or r9 290 msi
I don't know shit about computers but their prices are similar. Leaning towards the r9 290 since my current gpu is a amd radeon hd 7800 and has served me faithfully for a long while.
I really don't want to pay 500+ for a gpu that's for sure

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MYD4GX
The mobo is what I'm having trouble with
Should I get one with wifi built in or just buy this and some USB adapter

>>273384017
this

>>273384428

I'll say this, I'm switching from 2 4GB Elsa GTX 770s to 3 4GB MSI R9 290s.

Before I used the 770s I was with 2 6870s, and personally I was more satisfied with those even though the 770s was more powerful.

>>273384606
>buying multiple gpus
your words fall on my pleb ears

>>273384282
Considering the emphasis in next-gen engines is shifting from single thread performance to using more threads a 6300 is less likely to bottleneck you than an i5. The only reason to avoid the 6300 is the AM3+ socket seems pretty dead.

>>273384712
so is intel's lga ???? socket since it'll get outdated the moment the release their next cpu

>>273377454

>50 people say AMD is Satan.
>50 people say Intel is Satan.

The fuck am I supposed to do.

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I got an Intel Core I3-4150 3.50Ghz and a Gtx 770, because it was the best I could afford.
Is the I3 going to bottleneck? Did I fuck up?

>tfw 2500k stronk
AMD still trying to catch up with it kek

>>273384768
True, basically all the current sockets are out of date next year when DDR4 starts to become more mainstream.

>>273384784
buy a tablet with an ARM processor

>>273384698

Lol, 4k owner here. I know I'm one of the strange early adopters.

>>273384536
Just get an adapter. You'll probably want a dongle antenna anyway. Might as well not need that part on your system drawing power for the times you don't actually need it.

>>273384997
oh alright, it's for 4k
you had me worried here like
>what the fuck you buy 3 cards
>are you emulating real life
A single msi r9 290 should suit my needs then, I suppose
I barely play AAA games, and don't mind lowering the settings for 60 FPS but 2015 is looking like a good year. Also I want in on that glorious witcher 3 grafix

FX 6300 + R7 260X

Master Race

>>273385214
>R7 260X
ayy
might as well have bought a console cakeboi

>>273384540
>>273384017
Its quite silly to recommend the gtx760 when it's definetly rubbish as he can get a r9 280 anywhere for less and its the faster card. The 760 is just a 2gb card to boot.
The 760 was never the price/performance card to get and I cringe everythime I see someone say he bought one for that reason.

>>273385410
>AMD
>drivers

>>273384801
Please respond, I even posted a picture of my 98 year old greatgrandma.

>>273385537
so what if it bottlenecks? if you get a smooth experience while playing it literally doesn't matter.

>>273384387
>Living in the now

>>273384712
That mass change won't come any time soon.

>>273385632
I don't want to feel like I wasted money on the 770 if the I3 holds it back

>>273385668
>That mass change won't come any time soon.
But it will have an upper limit in terms of how much the individual cores can actually be stressed, and a bottom limit on how poorly games can actually run, to a degree.

I see no reason to be concerned about the performance of higher clocked FX-6000 chips.

>>273385772
it'll still get better performance
if you bought an i5, you'd probably have to spend $100 less on the gpu and end up getting a 760 which will end up getting you lower fps either way
anyway, you're an idiot for not buying a 970

>>273385410

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202099&cm_re=R9_280-_-14-202-099-_-Product

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0rtCcsJu58


It's so easy to overclock, infact I recommend it as its the same card as the 280x/7970 only with lower frequency and less compute units

>>273385828
There's only 3 real cores on a 6300.

>>273386390
And they're still more than double the clock speed of consoles. They're more than capable of brute forcing the float, while still having other resources to spare.

>>273379852
I agree with this guy 100%.

I upgraded from my FX6300 to a 4790K only because I started emulating PS2 and Wii games.

My FX6300 handled any game fine prior to that.

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It just works

>>273386760
I do see why you need to make that comparison with consoles. If anything, you need more brute force with the garbage they're porting to pc.

>>273387096
>asus xonar

what for, dont tell me you got it for the "headphone amp" goy

you keep falling for the oldest tricks in the book ehehe

>>273387597
No bully pls

Thank you to the anon earlier who mentioned overheating VRMs with 125w FX chips, i did not know that it was an important thing to check with my motherboard.

Luckily, i have an FX-8350 with an Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 so i should be just fine as long as i dont overclock my cpu. Thank GOD i didnt choose an MSI, 90% of the 125w cpu failure horror stories come from that brand in particular.

>>273387504
I normally wouldn't, but any game that is sufficiently damanding that performance will be an issue is probably going to be multiplatform, which means, ironically enough, it actually won't be all that demanding on the CPU. Again, short of just shit coders leaving their PC/Windows ports to be brute forced by way the fuck higher clocked CPUs.

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>>273379852
http://www.itproportal.com/2011/06/02/amd-launches-israeli-rd-center-hints-closer-arm-partnership/

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I want to emulate PS 2 and Gamecube games. Is this an okay build for that

i5
R9 290 GPU
8GB RAM

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>you bought AMD
>you bought an SSD

>>273384801
i3s are pretty fucking strong.

>>273387861
Anon, for future references, i dont think GPU power actually matters for emulation yet, it's all about brute individual core CPU power.

>>273387985
I don't know anything about smart things.

>>273379852
>amd are totally not jews guys

Why does core quality/power mean when emulating?
Like if i try to run a n64/psx game with an FX or a i3 would i really see much difference?
Or hell even with a i5, how much emulation performance do you gain, really?

>>273388208
still dependent on gpu.

>>273387985

GPU matters for hardware mode emulation, but the CPU is almost always the bottleneck, even on toasters.
Software mode emulation needs a monster CPU.

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I'm happy with this build, haven't got a game yet that I can't run on ultra.

>>273384801
it's ok for now, only a handfull of games use more than 2 cores.

>>273384784
fuck everything and build an IBM PowerPC with minix.
IT. WILL. NEVER. CRASH.

>everyones cpu is at 30C by default
>my cpu is at 50C by default

how do I fix this shit

I haven't built a computer since 2007

Is AMD still considered shit compared to Intel or did they about balance out?

What about nvidia and ATi or amd whatever it is now.

>>273388676
Put your PC in the fridge

>>273388676
Is it a modern cpu? get a better heatsink

>>273388208
Multi-core means very little for emulation. THE best CPU for emulation right now is Intel's pentium g3258. Just overlock the little shit and it will be out even the fastest i7s.

>>273388730
it's still shit but it's cheaper. It's not for gaming. If you're going to spend more than 800$, go intel, else go amd.
I've tried both so i'm not a fanboy. I curently use an [email protected]

>>273388730
AMD has always been competitive to Intel, you just can not disregard price, and even then, depending on your purposes, AMD completely smokes Intel FOR THE PRICE. Having said that, Intel far and away has the best performing chips on the market. If you're willing to pay, you WILL get better performance. It is just that the performance does not scale very well with each additional dollar you are adding to the equation.

>>273388676
>cpu 16 degrees min
>gpu 20 degrees min

I have the stock Intel cooler and a reference 660 Ti. It's so fucking cold in England.

>>273388676
Did you ever buy an aftermarket cpu cooler?
Did you clean your fan in the last 2 months?

If you answered no to any of those things, there's your problem..

>>273388798

i5 3570K

mind you I have had little problems with it at this resting temp though I believe improvements need to be made.

>>273388991
Basically, see it like this:
You're hungry, hungry for food.
You can either eat a nice steak
or get some mcdonalds.

>>273388676
get a better heatsink+cooler
replace stock thermal paste with something decent
clean current heatsink + cooler
clean inside of your case
add some coolers to the case if there are mounting points for that

those are your options, use all or only one, should help

>>273379582
for $70 what the fuck else does he want? The G3258 is an excellent budget CPU and gives you plenty of upgrade options down the road.

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I need a new PSU.

>>273389414
>prosessori
my sidori

Since this is a hardware thread. Can someone post the gtx 750ti poorfag build? I don`t know what CPU would work with that card without being an overkill.

>>273389675
just switch it to a 750ti if you love nvidia so much
>>273381038

>>273389675
http://www.logicalincrements.com/

What's the point of SDD ?

Hey anons, Black friday is coming, there will be lots of deals EVERYWHERE on computer hardware. To avoid the usual human stampede and lack of stock in stores, shop online on whatever retailer you like best.

It'll be way worth it. Black friday is on the 28th of this month.

>>273388842
Holy shit I just looked that mother fucker up the quality is insane for the price its at. How well does it work for current gen gaming though?

>>273389983
If you don't really see any deals you like, then additionally, wait until 'cyber Monday', immediately following the weekend. In fact, just start looking for deals right now. E-retailers don't really bother with one day sales, because they don't rely on 'Door busters' like brick and mortar.

>>273389950
its faster than HDD

>>273390056
Not very. It is technically sufficient for most games right now, but the fact it has very threads/cores means it will not really scale down the line. It is absolutely just a low end consumer, non-gaming part, that just happens to be absolutely perfect for what emulation demands.

>>273390056

It does well in games that like fast cores but its days are numbered - far cry 4 won't even launch on a dual core chip and more games are gonna be bottlenecked by it as time goes on.

Fantastic chip, but an i3 will serve you better.

>>273379780
I'm aiming for something similar anon. Thanks for posting.
How's that GPU working for you?
Can you run at 1980p and high/ultra?
The only changes I might do is f9 290 GPU and 240GB SSD (luckily I don't stash all my pr0n on my PC so that's enough space)

>>273389950
it's faster.
Get your favorite game in it to have less loading times. It makes games like skyrim more playable.
Also it boots windows in literaly 2 seconds

>>273390327
>1980p
slow down tiger

>>273389009

I have a 660 and it rests at an average of 35C.

>>273389285

I will be doing a clean sometime this weekend, will be upgrading a bit too with a £800 budget so I will be looking everywhere to boost performance. Plenty of space for coolers just need to know the best places to sit them.

Also just found that this heatsink had prized itself loose a bit, so I screwed the motherfucker in solid and CPU nor rests at an average of 43C.

>>273377454
AMD is the only thing that Intel has a competitor, and actually treat their customers better than Intel and aren't part of the global elite

I have a FX-8350, no regrets. and I'll probably replace it when amd stops fiddling around with their fucking APU's.

>>273379010
Yeah, and a core i3 4130 beats it in 90% of games.

>>273390548
Why would somebody get an APU if they're not making a purposely compact build?

>>>/g/

guys i have gt 630 and i5 3330. In wow i get like 20 fps with medium to low settings outside. Tried to play farcry 4 and i cried, its impossible.
What cheap gpu should i get so that i could at least play wow decently?

>>273390706
/g/ seems to talk less about actual hardware than this thread does.

And besides, we're helping our fellow pc game-people maintain good pc health. It's helping the community as a whole.

Get an 8320 from microcenter. $120. Really good fo that price. Just get a decent heatsink. 212+ should be fine.

>>273380398
You can probably do a G3258 + an r9 280. Just get a Micro-mobo, 8GB of ram, a 500w PSU, and either a ~160GB SSD or a TB HDD.

I would recommend going to Microcenter if it is anywhere near you, if not just get it all from new egg

>>273390327
>>273390386
Welp, I fucked up
Meant 1080p
This is what I get after being a laptop pleb for so long

>>273389950
You can use it to boot your computer up way faster than a standard harddrive.

Like 10 seconds compared to 30-45.