What do you guys prefer, manual or auto bolt fire? What's

I like manual even though you're just making the game harder for yourself

Manual, makes it easier to see if you hit someone before the fuckhuge cycle animation
You also save a round when you put in a new clip and your current one isn't empty yet

>>272864646

Manual also has a faster cycle rate compared to automatic bolting

>>272864752
how the fuck does manual make it harder
it's faster and more flexible

manual is quicker

also feels good man

I wish more games had RO2 weapon positioning mechanics (when you are looking over some obstacle you automatically stabilize your aim by resting weapon on it), and ammo count info provided by how heavy the magazine feels / how many rounds are in the chamber. But it only makes sense in tacticool shooters, and there aren't many of those anyways.

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Goddamn does the rifle fucking feel good.

>one-shot kills
>excellent range
>decent hip fire if you're not shit
>*click*
>manual bolting

look at all these bolt action plebs

schmeisser master race

Did Tripwire just announce that RO2 will get the Western Front aswell? Holy shit if true.

>>272864646
Manual is the only way to play.

>>272866859
No, they said they're never going to do it and to play the mod for it instead.

>>272866931
Can't they just add the mod with a patch and make it official? I think they've done it for some custom maps already.

>>272866931
What's the word on the vietnam mod?

>>272866982
They could, but Tripwire have been pretty full retard on just about everything to do with RO2. Semi-retard, maybe.

>>272867016
the bird

>>272867016
They're making standalone version, independent from Tripwire and RO2. It'll be made on UE4.

>>272867161
Shame Vietnam scene is boring as fuck. Oh boy can't wait for another Rising Storm but with M16's instead.

>>272867494
how can one man have such shit taste?

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I implore you to pick this up while on sale. It is worth it, see picture for longevity play time

>>272867551
>boring helicopters instead of airplanes and tanks
>boring Vietnam fucking shits instead of Ruskies and Nazis
>boring weapons instead of the variety in WW2 scene
>boring shitty jungle and river maps instead of varied WW2 maps

How can one man actually like that shit?

>>272868125
absolutely epik

>>272868120
You in any Steam groups? What server you play on? I have 100 hours played and I still feel like a beginner.

Rifleman all day everday
Only class I have at max, I just loot other weapons if I need them

>>272867161
Probably the best thing that could have happened.

Unlocking new weapons is way too fucking slow.

my game is stuck at 99% on the last update all day, what do?

Auto is disgusting. Manual is so satisfying.
It's also useful.

Alright, asking again.

Trying to get a copy of Rising Storm GOTY through trading for a friend so we can shoot Germans and Americans together.

I don't have much. All I can offer is a Nosgoth beta key and 8 cards. I think he has about 12 cards I could also offer plus I think he has some TF2 and Dota2 items that I think are sellable.

Would anyone be interested in helping us out?

>>272871570
The game is like 5 Euro. Just how underage are you?

I got this game free awhile ago but I heard the free version is gimped. Is this true?

>>272871693
I'm 23 but a month without a job means I'm out of bullshit money.

Buddy's in school so he has no income whatsoever.

Hey, it's with a shot. If you don't wanna help, don't give me shit please.

>>272871794
Don't know about that but if you didn't get Rising Storm then you're only able to play pacific front matches as a bolt-action rifleman

>>272871794
Why would it be? It's possible you didn't get Rising Storm with it so you can only play Rifleman in RS servers. Which is completely viable.

>>272871858
I could buy it for you but i don't trust you.

>>272871928
That's fine. Appreciate the thought, really.

>>272871858
If you're 23 and you honestly don't have five fucking Euro to spend, then you really shouldn't be playing videogames.

>>272871901
>>272871903
I have Red Orchestra 2 single player and Rising Storm/Red Orchestra 2 multi

>>272872004
thanks mom

>>272864646
manual of course
what are you, a casual?

>>272872067
everyone has that
the only gimping you can have as far as I know is the Rising Storm one mentioned earlier
if you wanna check just go into the Rising Storm store page

free weekend? oh boy, time to avoid the game yet again

>>272872206
Why? Easy kills everywhere and completely unorganized enemy teams.
Then again that applies to your own team as well.

>>272864646
>installed game
>decide to give it a try
>complete first training level
>okay, this seems pretty cool
>cutscene for next mission starts
>oh, the german side of the seige of Stalingrad. Neat.
>German guy talking in briefing cutscene
>All of a sudden, voice slows down to a low, deep crawl
>sounds like my computer is fucking possessed
>whole system frozen almost to the point of needing to hard reset
>manage to kill the process

Haven't touched it since.

>>272872618
>playing single-player
Your computer was doing you a favour.

>>272872618
The tutorial is bugged. After you try out long range shooting you can't advance.

>>272872729
I did the whole tutorial the other day. Did they patch it? I just got the game so wouldn't know.

>>272872696
Oh, well I'm sure I'll enjoy my prolonged stay at the bottom of the learning curve for this wonderful multiplayer-focused experience as I continuously get my anus turned inside out by the players who have put hundreds of hours into the game.

It'll be like Counter-Strike all over again

>>272872832
I guess so. I got through the tutorial just fine, but once the briefing for the next mission started, it took a major shit on my system.

>>272872832
Yeah the probably did. I played it 2 years ago and then just moved onto multiplayer.

Wait, Red Orchestra 2 has single player campaign?

Manual bolting.
It's faster and also more fun

>>272872901
The game is easy, you either #yolo rape everyone from the back with ppsh and bare hands when you run out of ammo or camp somewhere in grass or some building.

Pretty stupid you don't get a bigger discount if you already own RO2, since you get it "for free" if you buy RS

>>272873332
Tripwire knows how to reward their early supporters.

>>272871858
you shouldnt be wasting time playing games if you cant even scrape 5 euro together you dumb faggot

Picked this up the other day.

It takes a while to get good. Sure I can rush objectives with my squad, but im really struggling to get gud with my k 98.

I really wanna try marksman, but my shit pc means the spots are always taken before I can get in the spot.

>>272871570
Wow, you've been in every RO2 thread I have seen the last few days. Coincidence? I don't think so. Stop making these threads to beg like a piece of shit.

>>272873567
thanks dad

>>272873737
I'm in this one tonight. I was in one last night. These are the only two I've been in and I certainly didn't make the threads. Not exactly begging since I'm offering stuff, even though it is a long shot. Stay mad, though.

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>Decided to play RO2 tonight.
>ausfag so its a tight community of regulars that can only support one server
>notice a increase of being tk'ed by unknowns
>"sorry I cannot tell the difference" x 10

what's in the deluxe version?

>>272874951
Just some early unlocks, not worth it

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>>272874595
You were probably just in the same server i was with grenade happy idiots

>also how the fuck do i unlock the mg42

>>272873332
dnll m8. I bought the game at release and I have both RO2+RS. And new players can just buy that RS goty thing and get both as well

>>272874595
>free_weekender: how do I tell the difference
how can someone fucking ask this question
like use your eyes what do you think

>In a building with some teammates
>Firing out of windows
>Getting shot at by other team
>Don't know where they are
>People dying
>Bullets flying
>Try to throw a grenade through the window
>Hit invisible wall above Machine Gun
>Kill 4 team mates

>Leave server

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>>272877435
>you can count on osttruppen!

>>272877007
What?
You're saying I already have RS if I have RO2?
But I'm locked to just rifleman right?

>>272873737
OP here. I'm not that faggot. I even called him out for being a cheap piece of shit who can't scrape together pocket money for fifth-graders.

Did they fix the stuttering?

>>272879263
Yes

>>272877435


The fact that TW hasnt patched window collision boxes is infuriating.

Throwing a grenade out a window is always a gamble, but I've found aiming straight along your armand throwing it a foot or two away from the window works alot more often

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I bought RO2 when it came out back in '11, however it was a major dissappointment then. Too many hackers, pixel warfare, guns way too accurate that shouldn't be (submgs I'm looking at you), and cover being completely meaningless making it COD. I enjoyed RO1 alot more ima.

>>272880253
I've experienced none of those things since i started last july

>>272880253
it's much better than it was but if you like RO1 and want some thing a bit different the darkest hour mod still pulls a server or two of people at night

>>272868120
I'd play but servers in my country are practically dead.

It's the saddest thing about good multiplayer games

>>272871570
fuck off beggar. if you can't afford it you cant play it. 23 years old and cant afford a video game, what a horribly unfunny joke.

Why is manual bolting better?

>>272881620
read the fucking thread faggot

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>>272871570

Manual bolt is better because it gives you the illusion you're not playing casual trash, while you are actually playing COD-tier casual trash.

>>272868125
You know nothing about the vietnam conflict and have the imagination of a 12 year old cowadooty addict.

>>272865446
>I wish more games had RO2 weapon positioning mechanics (when you are looking over some obstacle you automatically stabilize your aim by resting weapon on it)
Fuck, I wish Insurgency at least had it. I hate feeling like I have to take foregrip and heavy barrel if I want to be even remotely accurate when firing full-auto.

>>272866931
>No, they said they're never going to do it and to play the mod for it instead.
How is the mod? Heroes of the West, right?

>>272880870
You can play 100% fine on 300 ping.

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>>272872901

>it's the games fault I cant get good

I fucking LOVE THIS

>>272881738
thanks

>>272882419
>You can play 100% fine on 300 ping.
Yeah, to the detriment of everybody with normal ping on the server.

>>272880368
>haven't experienced pixel warfare
What, have you only been playing on Rising Storm maps?

>>272877149
>use an opposite faction gun
>they don't shoot you even though they see you because they hear their own gun firing
>droppin 30 people with a bar as a chink

Great laughs were had.

>>272882295
Insurgency just feels too small. It needs 64 players to capture that team feeling.

So how are the vehicle maps? I want to get back into RO2 again.

>>272882760
I like them but noone plays them. If you mean the 100% vehicles maps

>>272881821
arma pls

Should I get RS? I have HoS already

>>272882970
Only if you love or hate Japan. or love or hate America.

>>272879685
This. Anybody can tell? I won't download 20GB to find out.

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>>272882636
They're gooks, not chinks you ignorant motherfucker

>>272883154
What stuttering?

>>272883154
>each game is supposedly 8GB each
>they combine it into one "app" so you have to download 24GB to play the one you want

Fucking retarded. Why can't they just separate the two?

>>272883384
It stutters like shit. I don't know I have a decent rig (a 2500k and a 760) and the game stutters no matter the settings, and even while non of the hardware is maxed (CPU and GPU are used at 60% or so, not even a CPU core is maxed). A lot of people have this problem but tripwire don't want to fix it and spout shit like "verify cache" "delete ini" "buy another computer" etc...
This game looks like a game from 2005, I don't see why it would run like shit. I don't have any problem with other games which all run flawlessly.
So while I sort of like RO2, I just can't stand playing it because it stutters like shit.

>>272883435
Because then you'll lose more than half of the servers since they are running combined

>>272883919
>This game looks like a game from 2005
jesus christ you people with the phrases that you spout

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automatik bolt reload
>waste glorious bullet
manual bolt reload
>save glorious bullet

anyone who autobolts is bitch faggot

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>>272883203
AYY RMAO

>>272884135
It looks like complete shit, dude.

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>Using an automatic weapon = top of the scoreboard
>Those meatgrinder maps where germans can happily sit and mow down ruskies trying to advance
No wonder no one plays this game. I really want to love this game too.

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>>272884330
Wait, so if I want to reload I should do it BEFORE bolting the next round? Is that why I always seem to be reloading more bullets than I use?

>tfw still a scrub and line up a shot without realizing I haven't bolted the next round
War is tough.

>>272884765
What are you trying to say?

>>272872618

Skip singleplayer. Go straight to multiplayer

Anyone got a red orchestra 2 copy in his inventory?
I can trade with insurgency

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>>272885756

>>272884765
It's funny, on free weekends with a fuckton of scrubs, the defenders on any map have a huge advantage. Normally, with people actually good at the game populating the server, the attackers have a slight advantage over the defenders.

Shit, there was a RO2 thread i didn't know about?
Glory be to SVT40

>>272886328
The attacking team needs a decent commander, squad leaders and coordination to have any chance at all. Defenders just need to spread out and camp

New players always seem to go Russain first for the novelty, so I find the Ruskies often get stomped after sales and weekends

>>272886798
>using semi-auto rifles
Enjoy being a jack of all trades, master of none. MG master race reporting in, going rambo on all your asses with my deadeye estimated hipfire aim. Going back to tiny mags to level up the MG42 is hellish, though, and I'm not convinced the MG34 isn't plainly better anyway.

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>RO2 sale not even on front page of steam store
Did they screw up or something?

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>Free weekend

welp, I love playing with people that have no idea what they're doing picking all the important classes.

>>272886928
They go Soviet because they think that playing the nazis will turn them into nazis. Most people just tendo to go for the "good guys" in any game like this. People who played a bunch of the game or don't really care go for wichever team is avaliable and that means the "Bad guys" so they tend to be at an advantage.
Same thing was happening with insurgency the other day. People coming from HB were all going SF if they could.

>>272887380
Joke's on them, MG34 and RPD 4 lyf

>>272886328
Oh well, I still kinda enjoyed myself by having this on while playing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxcP7TRY178

I should really play more seeing as I've had the game for ages.

>>272880253
>Too many hackers, pixel warfare, guns way too accurate that shouldn't be (submgs I'm looking at you)
SMG's are accurate to like 70 metres in RO2
what a dumb complaint

>>272883203
Gooks are Korean you fucking moron, it's nips for japanese

Chinks = Chinese
Gooks = Koreans
Nips = Japanese
Slopes = Vietnamese

>Speed hack detected
>Speed hack detected
>Speed hack detected


How fucking long does it take for tripwire to fix this? I swear it was in the original RO aswell.

>>272887045
Playing commandr and squad-leader i can either use the SVT or have 0 long range capabilities. Still, don't need to use more than 1 bullet most times, so it's not that different from using the bolt action rifles, other than having to manually bolt those.

>>272865175
>clip

>>272887668
Semi-auto rifles have inherently worse accuracy than bolt rifles due to recoil (that one's more of a psychological thing that can be trained out though) and weight distribution. Really, though, as a commander your major concern shouldn't be weaponry, and as a squad leader you definitely want close-quaters weapons since a good squad leader will be in the enemy lines acting as a spawn point.

New to the bandwagon here. 5 of my friends and I will be getting this game tomorrow. Not sure if we should pick up 1, or 2. Looking for feedback. Also pointers on how to enter multiplayer without being scrub for long.
We worked well together in planetside 2 so I don't think it will be all that hard.

>>272887380
I'm a noob and I prefer german because I'm an evil nazi I can partially understand german, while russian makes absolutely no sense to me.

>>272887851
Germans and Japs run holding their weapons with one hand. Russians and US run holding their weapons with both arms. If you're playing Russian or US using just your side arm (pistol) will make people hesitate to shoot you.

If you're a squad lead mark artillery and throw smoke.

Other than that it's all good. Mark targets with z I think and just help your team out.

>>272887851
Get two. A bit of heads up, this game is team-based online game, not squad-based. You are in squads but the team play is more important. Just so you know before starting it up.

>>272887307
Yeah, what the fuck is up with that? I was looking for Russian keys for a friend until he pointed out to me the game was on sale. Did Gabe tire of constant RO2 sales?

>>272887851
My top three bits of advice for gitting gud in RO2:
1. be aware of how exposed you are. Be VERY aware of how exposed you are. See what you're doing? You're exposed. That shot you just took? Twenty irons are scrambling to point in your direction right now. Be somewhere else, be unpredictable, and above all attack from the side as much as you possibly can.

2. git gud at #420noscoping; frequently you'll somehow end up in the situation where you can either fire a reaction shot and survive or bring up your sights and die in the process. Yes, even with a bolt action, you should be able to do this to some extent. If you get really good at it, MGs stop being point-defence and start being CQC, and when you've got a 150 round belt-fed MG34 in tight quarters you can wipe out an enemy team single handed, if you're smart about it.

3. directly contradicting point 1, if you're an attacker, GET THE FUCK IN THERE. The crux of this is: don't be afraid. Fear is what causes scrubs to be scrubs. Oh, and don't fucking crouch run across open ground you dumb fuck, you're an easy target if you do that. Crouch running is EXCLUSIVELY to be used in trenches, and only if you know popping your head up will get you killed.

Oh and in Rising Storm never run without banzaiing as the japs, just hold melee while sprinting. It makes you invincible. Well, almost.

>>272887803
It depends for commander. I'm not just gonna camp out at the radio the wholle damn time if there's not point to it due to cooldowns. In maps where those are pretty quick i tend to stay there and drop the weapon i have for anyone who might want it, but otherwise i move in to help the team fighting.

And as i said, i like to at least have some long-range capabilities instead of being a close range monster. it seems everytime i pick a SMG i find myself in some situation where i get killed by someone from a distance. At least with the semi-autos i get a fighting chance wither way. And ppshs aren't taht hard to find laying arround anyway.

I like manual bolting because my autism doesn't allow me to lose one single bullet during reload.

>>272888246
>>272888216
Alright. Thanks for the heads up.
Seems pretty sneaky about the whole 1-2 handed thing.
I had a friend explain it as like a first person Risk. But after watching videos I see a very interesting game that should be able to bring us together again.

>>272888269
Russians have the banzai now from what I understand. If they sprint in groups they suppress Germans.

>>272888743
Yeah, but they don't get any of the bullet resistance. The Japs only get it because they have jack shit for automatic weaponry, while the Americans are swimming in it.

>daily reminder that RO2 features unlocks and character progression

>daily reminder that RO2 features spawnclosets

>daily reminder that Red Orchestra is dead

>daily reminder that CoD is real

>>272888743
They always had Hurra charges from what i remember. They just aren't NEARLY as effective as a bnazai charge since it doesn't amke them nearly invencible, so the nazis can pick them easily from a distance and at close range with SMGs and MGs.

>be in trench, moving up to point
>come to end where there some open ground then trench start again
>notice a Fritzl sitting in the next trench about 20m away, cowering next to body of dead comrade
>Ready my comrade Mosin to place glorious soviet boolet into coward nazi hide and crack off shot
>boolet hit dead nazi and fails to penetrate into living nazi despite tiny range
>living nazi places efficient german boolet into my skull as reward
>when respawn I take Mosin to commissar to be purged for cowardice in face of enemy

>>272887803
>a good squad leader will be in the enmy lines acting as a spawn point
Almost true, you want to be near the lines but your team is loads better off if you stay alive and not dead. If you care about it, you're also going to get more points if your squad consistently spawns off of you. If your commander is bad, you'll most likely be the top of the scoreboard if you stay alive and play it just a bit safer and stay just at the edges of spawnpoints (unless they're being attacked and you're defending, of course), letting your squad stay in front. This is no excuse to camp way back though.

>>272887668
Also, you can get 100 meter headshots with the PPSh if you try to tap fire, I've done it. Just always use small bursts unless they're right in front of you. Once youget the stock for the MP40 you can pretty much just hold it down because lol no muzzle climb.

>>272888862
There's character progression in realism mode. Why does no one ever remember there's a "classic" mode?

>>272887732
They are clips in most of bolt action rifles.

>>272888998
The problem with long range with either the PPSh or MP40 is the horrifying velocity dropoff over distance. Sometimes it feels like the bullets are just bouncing off the enemy's skin at that distance.

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>>272888483
That's not autism, stop making excuses for yourself, you just want to be efficient as fuck and that's a good thing.


So dumb when people say this silly shit

>>272889010
>There's character progression in realism mode
yes i know there is.


RO2 is literally a defunct game.


Daily reminder that this is happening:
http://www.darkesthourgame.com/

new update for our lord and saviour darkest hour is about to be released

>>272888998
I have a few kills at 130m or so with the PPSh, I know it CAN be used for long range if you try, but when faced with someone (and i mean you see them and they see you) the advantage is always on the person who has a bolt or semi auto.

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>>272867494

>Shame Vietnam scene is boring as fuck. Oh boy can't wait for another Rising Storm but with M16's instead.

Holy shit, nigga, what is the birth of special operations and fucking air cavalry?

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>>272887732
>WW2 bolt-action rifles
>magazines

>>272889125
Hey, if they're too far away, use smoke and flank. If you don't have smoke, make the trip and grab some more. If you're under fire, obviously it's not an option, just let your guys take them out since they'll have long rifles.

Or just use the semi-autos, they're both fucking nasty good

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>>272887732

>>272889213
The British SAS in WW2 on both accounts

>>272872901
It's really fucking easy to be on the same level as average player.
The only hard part at this game is to be the best in everything

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>>272889213
Speaking of Vietnam / In Country: Vietnam, I'm hype as fuck for it. Kind of really just hoping it ends up being more or less like Rising Storm, since I really enjoy the way RO2 plays, but that's just me.

>>272864646
Manual is slightly faster and you can reload without wasting a bullet

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>>272864646
>on sale
What a fucking loser. Every one has already gotten it for free.

Stay mad, turbonerd.

>>272887851
Learn how to lead targets properly asap
Don't spend too much time camping in one spot, and be wary of your shots drawing people to you
Climbing high vantage points like watchtowers will usually result in you being shot while climbing the ladder - if you reach the top you'll become the focus of the entire other team the second someone notices you
As an attacker make sure you're constantly pushing forwards and make sure you're physically in the cap zone, not 10m behind it. Don't charge too far into the cap zone as well, it's better for you to be closer to your side and able to capture as opposed to the enemy's end and getting gunned down. Also if the objective is destructible you can pick up satchel charges to blow them up by moving to a supply crate and pressing ctrl near it
As a defender, make sure you're within a 5-10 second sprint of the cap zone if you decide to cover a flank - in case it becomes contested
Don't fire at a target unless you confirm it's an enemy first
On Rising Storm, don't banzai charge while flanking, the shout will draw attention to you. If your team decide to mass banzai a point without being stealthy, make sure you sprint and hold melee. If a group of you mass up it will essentially triple your health, only flamethrowers and explosives can 1HK you

>>272888821
That damage reduction is ridiculous. Took a trenchgun blast to the chest and stabbed a dude.

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>>272889537
>posts anime image of a little girl, clearly a weeaboo that probably has loli porn of her too
>calls someone a nerd

>>272889662
If it was during a banzai charge, they're a hell of a drug. Just keep pumping rounds into them, I know it's annoying but it's there

>>272887653

It means that your internet is shit and you are lagging like fuck at the moment, thats why you are locked in place.

>>272889662
It is truly ludicrous, and gets stronger when you're in a group of up to... I think up to 6 is where it stops getting more.

But then, of course, you WILL inevitably run into a flamethrower.

I fucking hate flamethrowers in RS. I've run 80-kill games with a flamethrower before, it's blatantly overpowered.

>>272889184
>let's fracture an already small community into what will become an unsustainable player amount
How about no. The interest in hardcore team-based WW2 shooters is already niche.

>>272888495
>Seems pretty sneaky about the whole 1-2 handed thing.
It's a bit annoying because eastern front it's germans green -> 1handed, russians tan -> 2handed.

Then swap the colours for the pacific campaign. Americans green -> 2handed, Japs tan -> 1handed.

But yeah in general just look at your maps a lot to see if there's allies in front of you, stay under cover like the scared little bitch we would all be if actually deployed, and try and push up with allies to contribute by sitting in cap zones. I find if you don't know the maps and the flow of battle, you won't get many kills till you find your feet, but don't be put off by that.

>>272889767
Knee mortar is just as bad. Entire push wiped out because some random fucking nade drops and kills 6 people.

>>272889840
But people already play Darkest Hour

>>272887307
Because the front page is just filled with recommendations now

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>>272889668
shut up

>>272889840
>The interest in hardcore team-based WW2 shooters is already niche.

yes i know


oh wait... are you implying ro2 is hardcore or teambased? what the fuck?

>>272889767
>>272889881
git gud

>>272889881
>>272889767
welcome to war gents

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>>272890123

I like how everyone talks about saving one bullet with the manual bolting.

But the best part of the manual bolting is that you won't get stuck in an animation after shooting, thus allowing you to either see if you hit your target, if not where it landed.
Plus the fact that you can fire once and then go into melee without being stuck in an animation

>>272887732
>>272889218
>>272889314
as long as you know what he was talking about it doesn't matter even if we called it "shit" with the exception of some autist getting butthurt over not using proper names

>>272864646
Manual

Why can't we have a C96 inside the C96 stock when we unlock it so we could still gun after we run out of gun?

>>272889767
Flamethrower has a 35-40m range at most and when someone sees someone with a tank on their back they point them out as HVTs

>>272889881
If it kills 3+ people it isn't random

>>272888821
>>272888743
Soviet have always had theirs, but the Japanese one is better. But the Soviet one is easier to use, you only need to sprint in a group to activate it, for the nips you need to actually go into melee mode

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>>272889949
Fuck no, go back to your loli thread to argue about stupid shit with other weeaboos about how your slutty loli waifu is pure and theirs are dirty whores


Delete your reaction image folder, cunt.

>>272890427
>If it kills 3+ people it isn't random
most of the time

>>272890454
I hate how hard it is to actually get a full team to banzai.

I try telling people that you eat bullets like it's breakfast and you can easily rush through entire maps using the momentum to run from capzone to capzone. You only end up getting 3-4 people to do it before they start saying "Banzai never works, stop doing it"

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>>272890597
shut up

>>272890597
>go back to your loli thread
and take this faggot with you

>>272890597
>>272889668
If you stop replying the shitposting stops

>>272890761
That's because epic kids abuse it. I just ignore Banzai charges unless I know the people I'm playing with. Otherwise just an easy suicide.

>>272890761
>I hate how hard it is to actually get a full team to banzai.
People don't want to run in the open as easy targets.
Where's the problem? I thought you wanted realism

>>272889767
Flame thrower isnt OP, they are just flamethrowers, and since most people are oblivious and dont fucking pick flame throwers off, people get flame thrown.

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>Buy RO2
>Love it
>Stop playing for some weeks
>Try to go back
>Can't play for shit
>Leave again
>Come back
>Can't play for shit
It literally killed the game for me

>>272890937
Realistically, if your commander called a banzai charged you'd be forced to participate in it.

>>272890937
>Getting a whole team of 32 people to banzai
>Each person can take 4-5 shots
>Take cap zone in a matter of seconds
>Rush to the next before they even get set up

It's like you don't even like winning. Some people might get mowed down, but its for the greater good. I've seen matches end in less than 5 minutes this way

>>272890669
Most people who play mortar regularly are lv 70+, to get a lot of kills you just fire into points where you are guaranteed to hit someone. Like, attacking point A on hanto you just need to fire at the radio near the bunker and to the right of it because people like to camp there. Or defending point C on Guadal you fire behind the medical tent in front of the bunker and you usually get 2 or 3 people per shot because most teams attack from there

>>272890761
Yeah, you need a decent SL or commander with a mic to convince people to do it. Dunno why they don't do it any other time when they realise how quickly japs can steamroll maps with it

>>272891047
See >>272882461


Play a bunch, learn the maps, learn the hiding spots, get better

so why hasnt TWI made ROOST free yet?

>>272891107
people dont always do what you command them to do if it means almost certain suicide
So no

>>272891224
I've also seen team losing because their glorious charge got bombed down or flanked by mgs

>>272891323
i can't make retarded people to learn to avoid places that usually gets bombed.

>>272891572
But that would bringu great dishonor upon your famiry, so you charge balls deep with the spirit of the samurai

>>272864646
manual you dummy
>>272864752
>harder
retard detected

>>272891572
Do you know anything regarding the japs in WW2?
If they were ordered to charge at the americans with no weapons, they would, for the emperror. Even civies commited mass suicide when the japanese army in the island they were living on was defeated.
So yeah, if a jap soldier was ordered to banzaim he would. Death beforre dishonourr.

>>272885115
exactly. it makes up quite a difference if you always reload half-way. you discard 20% of your ammunition

>>272891745
Which is why mortars aren't OP, they fire towards zones considered retard magnets. The only thing that fucks me off about them is people direct firing them into you from 5 yards away and surviving

>>272891773
But they cut my honorabre balls off so i woudnt be distracted by earthry desirus

>>272891946
>5 yards away and surviving
this
i applaud them for doing it really fast but otherwise it's fucking bullshit
>>272891830
and not everyone. even they had discontent among them.
those who did charge at command is comparable to premade team in RO

>>272891830
They charged when they had no options.
japs aren't as stupid as they make them to be in war movies

>>272892149
They could be as discontent as they wanted. It was either cahrge and probably get shot, or refuse and get shot.

>>272892265
No shit mate. I'm perfectly aware of that. But i'm trying to point out that if they were ordered they would..

>>272892394
>die possibly painful death
>die fast
it isn't that hard

>>272892687
then why the fuck you asking stupid questions?

>>272892012
You bring shame upon your ancestors

>>272892775
What stupid questions?
The guy said that in real life no one would ever banzai, but if ordered, the japanese soldiers would do it. Of course it's a last resort option to try to take as many of them down with you as you can ratehr than to defeat them, but that wasn't the point. It was just to point out that they would.

>>272893013
Point me where it's said they never charge.

>>272893109
Ok, fine, he implied it.

>>272888269
I don't agree with point three, I think crouch_running is better than just running across open ground, you're less likely to be seen, because if you are seen, you're dead anyway.

That's really the thing, in this game you have to not be seen.

>>272893307
Who implied such thing?
Only thing i see is one faggot bitching why it's so hard to get proper charge and me wondering why he is so fucking surprised that is a rare thing to see

>>272893507
looking at
>>272890937
>>272891107

I'd say both are right.
They wouldn't really wanted to, but if ordered, they would.

>>272893398
>MG
>out of ammo, alone behind enemy lines
>pistol was give to a rifleman who ran out of ammo sooner than you
>see enemy sniper cheerfully killing your mates
>you dont even have nades left
either my game was fucked or there isn't a melee option for mg

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>>272864646
>not using manual bolt

>>272893748
No melle with MG. Unless you're a jap i think?

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>that new kid who TKs you for your gun

>>272893748
Should have dropped your MG if you knew you were going to run out

>>272889218
>WW2 bolt-action rifles
>not magazines
Then what the fuck is holding the cartridges before they go into the chamber?
You can't pull it out, that's all.

>>272890120
It is teambased, you fucking fag. It's not our fault you don't play with friends, but a team will always win the fucking match,even if they're all lvl 10's against lvl90's with maxed out weapons.

>>272887626
>Gooks = Koreans
Wait i thought the Koreans were zipperheads?

>>272891224
Arty would stop your banzay pretty quickly. And a wellplaced MG.

There are two versions of the game on Steam, which one should i buy?

"RO 2 with Rising Storm" or "RO 2 with Rising Storm - RO 2 Digital Deluxe Edition"?

About the same price but I don't know the differences...

>>272894751
If I'm not mistaken, digital deluxe unlocks a couple of guns you normally get at veteran level.

>>272895036
Is the ruskie battle rifle a veteran unlock? If so then for what class? I find them on the ground sometimes but I have no idea how to get it

>>272895036
So nothing that i couldn't get after some time playing?

>that blackhawk kid told to shut the fuck up repeadetly by everyone, including me
Feels good

>leveling system in a game that tries to be even mildly realistic and tactical
literally worse than hitler

>>272895227
The AVT? Yes it is part of the deluxe unlocks, along with the MKB, and scoped semi autos.

>>272895323
You get the guns normally when you make it to veteran assault and veteran marksman.

>>272895478
The unlocks don't really make much difference, it's mostly just to make you feel special

>>272895323
Pretty much.
It also has skins for Killing Floor if you're into that.

>>272895227
You can pick them up. But i don't think too many people really use the AVT they're probably the SVT. To unlock the AVT you jsut need to level up the right calss, assault i think.

>>272895692
Never been a fan of the AVT, the recoil on that thing in full auto makes it useless unless you're like 10 feet away from someone.
Although you could just try to burst it but then you just kind of run out of ammo instantly

>>272895683
>The unlocks don't really make much difference
>double magazine and ammo belt on mg34
>better scopes on sniper rifles

>>272895826
Yup, that why no one uses the AVT. It just doesn't work. You can maybe kill 1, 2 guys at close range if you're lucky, but you'd be way better off with either SMG for that...

>>272895683
Levelling gives you slight bonuses to things like movement speed, reload speed and recoil
Not that it really matters, most people can either shoot or they can't. The bonuses don't change much, only really give you a slight edge in CQB

>>272895948
I think he meant the weapons you unlock, the AVT, th MK42, and sniper versions of the semi-auto rifles.

>>272895948
>front grip and bipod for BAR
>front grip, drum magazine and compensator for maximum dakka Thompson
>Bayonet and fucking SCOPE for jap MG
>those fucking scope upgrades for the 1903 sniper

>don't make much of a difference


no

>>272891224
and all it takes is a single flamethrower to stop it

>>272894357
nigga you can solo run and gun in ro2 so easy.

there are no teammates needed

its even easier with spawnclosets

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>Those kids have no idea whatsoever of what went on at Stalingrad.

>>272895683
>The unlocks don't really make much difference
faster reloading, less sway, more stamina, less supression

>not much difference
lol

Is the first Red Orchestra worth getting for $2.50, or is it just completely dead?

>>272896648
its totally worth getting

what region?

>>272895948
>>272896241
>>272896383
The game is still more about tactics than equipment. This stuff might give you a slight edge in certain situations but if you play like a scrub you're still gonna get fucked.

>>272896037
> most people can either shoot or they can't
this

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>all those new people using the cover system to pop their heads over obstacles

Jesus Christ. Playing a round as an axis marksman on bridges last night was kinda depressing. Poor Ivans.

>>272896946
>the game is more about tactics and teamwork
Sure, but 2-3 people in the german team with mkbs or mg42 wiping the floor and carrying their whole team on pubs non-stop say hi.

>>272896946
red orchestra 2 isnt about tactics.

it is LITERALLY an arcade run and gun shooter in the same vein as CoD

the only realistic part is the weapon handling and the setting.

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>playing as the soviet hero
>get tk every two minutes
>"sorry bro, you look like one of them"

>>272897313
This is why I'm afraid of hitting level 80.

>>272897393

Trust me, playing as the jap hero is 1000x worse, the red and white headband is a bullet beacon

America nerf when?

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>>272897590
Never

>>272897246
>I haven't played the game at all!

Go troll an assfaggots thread or something, faggot.

>>272896997
>Bridges
>good for attackers
>ever

>>272894751
http://store.steampowered.com/app/234510/
Is the one that has both RS and RO2 I believe

>>272896997
So do you actually expose yourself more when you use the cover system?

>>272897575
No helmet, white shirt, tan breeches, tabi as opposed to boots, white headband, sitting in positions the opposing team wouldn't be in and still constantly get murdered by new retards that fire at anything that moves. They never apologise either

>>272897590
They're balanced, the only maps that japs struggle on are the ones with small, indoor cap zones like saipan because flamers can destroy an entire push in about 4 seconds

>>272898003
>trying to pull this bullshit

i have over 100 hours in RO2 + the hours I clocked into the beta, back when we had hope that maybe ro2 can still turn out good

You just have to live with the fact that you enjoy a incredibly flawed game that took a shit all over its predecessor

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>mfw watching free weekenders playing

manual because it's the only good way.

>>272894751
with digital deluxe you unlock the unrealistic weapons right from the start

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>>272898068
>playing campaign
>team votes to attack bridges

>>272898068

The new updated version is more fair, still hard for the russians but a little more fair

>>272898101
yes, is terrible because most of the time your head shows up and is easy as fuck to headshot

>>272898275

Yeah, is not worth playing hero right now unless is a summer map in ro2

>>272898068
I actually really enjoy attacking provided our TL, SL1 and tank know what they're doing. On a free weekend though, there's no chance of that ever happening.

>>272898101
Sometimes, when you use it to crouch behind a piece of cover, it leaves the top bit of your helmet exposed. Using it to look over cover is a death sentence, since you stick out like a rainbow neon dildo to anyone with working eyes. You are a much less obvious target if you prone lean to the side of an obstacle instead.

>>272898101
Yep, even if just a corner of your head/helmet is sticking out an experienced player will have no problem shooting you.
Crouching without using cover leaves your head a few inches lower than leaning against it

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>>272868125

>not wanting to take on charlie
>not wanting to clear rat holes and pungee pits in the middle of a fuckhuge jungle
>not wanting to make tough moral choices about calling in napalm strikes on innocent gooks

Yeah, let's have Shoot Faceless Germans #29234 instead.

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>>272897246

Reminded me of this.

realism mod only mod

>>272898705

Unless they add a M67 Im not playing

>>272883154
No stutter for me, only if i play single player it stutters when i run but on multi im all good.

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>>272898869

I'll just keep going.

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>>272890297
>this is what shit brains actually believe

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Last time I played RO2 next to no chance I had to play tonks, please tell me that it's better now it was one of the most fun parts of the game for me

>>272897313
Do they not understand the differences in the animations?

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>>272899045
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>>272899098

>>272899202
I think they made the AI a bit worse so most people have the tank open for players

>>272899202

It is but the maps are shit. I dont know about the new map, I cant find servers playing the damn thing

>>272899359
Why did they keep running?
Where was the smoke?

>this thread
It's almost like I'm on /o/

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>>272899359

And I'm done. I need to play this game more.

>>272899507

It was a sale weekend, I think.

>>272899359
Hahaha yes I love that camping by their spawn feel. Only time I like having an auto rifle

>>272899704
68
15
11
21
Yeah, I should have caught that.
Stuck at lvl 84 and cant will my self to continue without more content.

What this game has or does better than that f2p Heroes and Generals ?

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>>272898358
>I have over 100 hours!
>he thinks that's a lot

That's not even halfway way up the learning curve curve, nigga

>>272890764
CHAIKA

>Page says 8 gigs required
>Go to install
>25 gigs
Well ok.

>>272864646
LVL 50 C96 IS GREATEST GUN IN GAME

>>272900320
It's not a p2w arcade game

>>272899252
How did he pull out his pistol so quickly? Every time I try that shit a guy several dozen meters away can zone and shoot me faster than I have time to even complete the switch animation.

>>272900413
>he thinks ro2 is deep

alternatively
>why would i play more than 100hours when it has become evident that the game is utter shit


ro2 is literally not hard, like i said run and gun skill is all that you need.

>>272900765
level up your character dude

hes master seargant rank 6 and you are only lvl1 peasant ivan

you need to grind about 10 hours

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>>272900991
>This is now standard in modern games

What is so wrong with having a even playing field and playing with all the unlocks from the start? Does everyone play to get better stats/weapons than others and not to actually enjoy the gameplay?

>>272900991
I'm rank 78 with like 200+ hours put into this gaem faggot

the only peasant in this scenario is you, buttmunch

>>272901343

I like the idea of progression, especially in a military setting.

The problem is properly balancing it which pretty much no game has done.

>>272900734
So Heroes and generals is P2W and arcade ? Ok.

>game features rank progression
>all classes available from rank 1
There is literally zero reason to allow newshits into playing SL or Commander. Ideally, you should spend your first 10 ranks with rifle only.

>>272901724

I thought this was controllable by server admins?

I could be crazy. I haven't played in about 6 months.

>>272901816
I don't know. Didn't touch anything other than rifleman first 2 months of playing, though, but definitely don't remember seeing any locked classes anywhere at any point of the time

>>272901724
That's kind of a good idea but it falls over when there is nobody over rank 10 on the server

>small update
>game completely reinstalls

Fuck you tripwire. Muh SSD

>>272900765
>>272901362
He might have been playing as a hero, that's 2 reload speed buffs above lv 78

Alternative is to toss your rifle with backspace to draw a sidearm faster, that way you skip the animation to unequip/shoulder your primary weapon and only have to perform the animation to equip a sidearm to shoot

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>>272902085
every fucking time. and those help tips too

>>272901816
I've played in a couple where admins would kick Squad Leaders and Commanders if they were below level 40 or if most of their team complained they weren't performing their role properly.
Most servers don't enforce it though, so just after a sale you get a level 18 commander who hasn't played the tutorial and a level 12 SL1 who doesn't smoke, drop marks or stay alive and it totally fucks the team over

>try to make tactical game
>enable spawn on squad leaders

binman.jpg

>>272902780
>not exclusively playing the mods or the game mode where it's disabled

It sucks how dead "classic" usually is though.

>>272901436
How do you balance "These guys have played for a longer time than those other guys, let's give them bonuses that directly boosts their performance potential over new players" ?

Other than, you know, give everyone the same buffs and stuff? You progress in the game by knowing the maps, the weapons, paths and whatnot.

>>272865765
It's not a goddamn schmeisser you uneducated fucking pleb piece of shit. This is why /v/ is literally the worst board.

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This Free weekend is silly

>>272902609
You don't need to be level 40 to know how to play a good SL. Fuck, I learned how to play it effectively after a few weeks of playing. You basically plop yourself down as close to the objective as possible and mark artillery. That's it.

So spotting enemies with Z. Is it worth doing? Every time I see it asked no one answers or the only answers are "I'm not sure".

>>272903743
At the very most its ok for tanks, especially if someones asked where the tank is.

>>272903032
"Balancing" new players and old players is so confoundedly stupid, why should I have to be gimped because I actually learned how to play the game just for the sake of retards that can't figure things out on their own? Every time I hear someone crying about camping in chat I die a little inside.

LISTEN UP, RETARDS, THIS IS A SUMMARY OF HOW TO GIT GUD IN A SINGLE SENTENCE

When you see a teammate get his ass shot, you stay the fuck away from WHERE HE GOT SHOT. If you see teammates advancing and they are NOT getting shot, you FOLLOW them and you plop your ass down when they stop advancing. It's not difficult, shitbirds.

>>272903743
Can be useful for spotting tanks for your teams tank.

>>272902007
Does that ever happen unless during free weekends?

>>272903438
I think even more important is good smoke cover

>>272903743
Definitely worth doing. It marks the position on the map similarly to recon planes, and knowing where the enemy is extremely important, especially enemy tanks

>>272877149
>like use your eyes what do you think
but both teams look the same

someone set up a server

I would but I'm in hueland

>>272904147
No, but they do free weekends and sales quite frequently

>>272904082
What the fuck are you talking about
The post chain is about the retarded leveling system and some players having objective advantages over others not because of skill or experience but because they have a higher number.

>>272904147
when the servers filling up in the morning it is, though if you get on commander and wreck the other team it may make people leave fast.

>>272904228
Germans sprint with rifle in one hand.
Sovjetskys sprint with rifle in both hands.

>>272903743

Yes, for tanks and commanders. In RS try to spot as much as you can as the japs, you will do a great favor to the mortar player

Who else wishes that RS was way more unequal in terms of allied/axis strength? I would honestly love to have 18vs48 with shitty bolt actions for the japs, maybe two SMGs/Sniper/LMG, and a massively powerful arsenal on the allied side.
They kind of marketed as 'asymmetrical warfare' but it's pretty fucking equal with the 1HK arisakas and the amount of SMGs on the jap side

Daily reminder that Realistic is not the most realistic mode
Classic is the realistic mode

>>272904389
What if they're not sprinting?

>>272904645
Nobody would want to play Japs then.

>>272904740

I would love to play classic all the time but I cant find a single server, most of the time I play custom servers which are close to classic in some things like the sprints and unlocks

>>272904780
Germans have green/grey uniforms with stahlhelmets.
Sovatskis have yellow/brown uniforms with typical hats.

>>272903743
Only issue I have it is that it usually places the icon on the wrong spot on the map, spotted a tank before and the icon on the map appeared somewhere else

>>272904798
I'd love to play as a jap. A lot more risk taking and actual banzai charges that are effective not because of some implemented supression effect
Just give me 3 kills worth when I kill a GI, and give him 3 deaths worth

>>272904780

Uniform colors but remember, the soviet hero gets a winter tracksuit in cold maps similar to the german uniform but brown.

also a small tip, always, ALWAYS cut the pie, that shit save my life more times that anything else

>>272905357
>cut the pie
Are you the same motherfucker from that other RO2 thread a while back? Because I've never heard anyone else use that phrase.

>>272905357
>cut the pie
What?

>>272905357
There's pie?!

>>272905357
>cut the pie
what

>>272904780
Germans: Green
Ivans: Tan
Yanks: Olive
Japs: Tan

>>272904645
Any rifle in Rising Storm is a 1hk if you hit them in the chest. Only dogshit rifle is the carbine
Japs have smgs that stop being accurate at 80m, Americans have instakill flamethrowers and BARs are essentially automatic sniper rifles. Both teams are pretty balanced

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>>272905615
>>272905610
>>272905609
Actual term used for how to effectively and safely clear corners.