Just started emulating this game, I've only played Persona

>>270965938
You can't control your party members in FES but if you're not casual scum then you should only have problems with 1-2 bosses at most.

>>270965938
you didnt even play the canon version of persona 4, just the easier version.

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have fun and remember Mitsuru is best girl!

>>270966480
Oh boy, the first shitpost of the thread. Usually the first one is the "Chie is a fucking slut" spammer

>>270966535
I had already come to that conclusion after playing P4A and P4AU

>>270966326
So I've heard. You can still give them general battle roles, right?

>>270966480
>canon
I'm pretty sure P4G is canon now, in spite of all the Marie asspain.

>>270966480

You do realize both Arena and Q are canon and both feature Marie, she's even playable in Arena.

It's unfortunate, but Golden is canon.

I NEVER FELT LIKE

>>270966707
>So I've heard. You can still give them general battle roles, right?

yep

>>270965938
you forgot
>don't immediately get your dick sucked by every character just for showing up
god that shit got so annoying in P4. It reeked of I LOVE YOU BECAUSE MAIN CHARACTER
I almost expected a professor layton twist where it's revealed that inaba is populated by robots who exist to make protag feel good
which is funny because the actual robot in P3 has more personality than any of them anyway

BABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABY

>>270965938
Your party can consist of yourself, a robot, a dog and a ten year old

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The lack of best girl in this thread disturbs me

Yeah, i've played both over 120+ hours each and i gotta say i like P3 more. The setting, story, characters, i like more.

Anyways, the best thing to know for playing Persona 3 is knowing when to use Rush.

Some of your party members sometimes have a knack for doing useless/wasteful magic, but after a bit you kinda get to know them and when they are about to pull some stupid shit.

Knowing when to use Rush will make everything better

>and I'm only an hour in
That's exactly why you're liking it. Play it for 10 more and you'll realize what a pile of shit it is. Then again you did like Persona 4 so who knows.

I just got into persona too , I got p4g and p3 on ps3. I do love both , but I like p3 a little bit more.

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>>270968143

That's not Elizabeth.

>>270968724
do one at a time, you'll get burnt out

>>270968843
You think I should focus on p3 first?
I am at kanji part on p4.
Not far at all in p3.

>>270968935
if you're a good deal farther in P4, then I guess do that one first
persona 3 would have been better to start with personally but i guess it doesn't matter

>>270965938
Honestly OP, they are hard to compare. They set out to do completely different things with their stories. The characters deal with different things. The writing and atmosphere is supposed to give you a different feel, and tell a different message.

After playing both, I can say that P3's gameplay is weaker due to the annoying restrictions of Tartarus and the inability to control your characters. It's freaking ridiculous how often they screw you over, especially for an experienced player who knows what they would've done with that party member's turn if they could've controlled them.

However a lot of these problems are fixed by P3P. I recommend you play that one instead, and then go back to FES for the epilogue content.

>>270969137
I really like p3 , P4 is constantly ruined for me on \v\

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>>270967518

Persona 3 is the better than 4 in every way excluding the combat
Same goes for Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment to 3 but a lot of people can't stomach how fucking awful the dungeon crawling is in that game

>>270969252
lol both persona 3 and 4 were spoiled to me on /v/

still had a blast with them though.

>>270969720
P3 FEs when you start it it has two options
The journey and I think the answer
What is the difference.

>>270969786
The Journey is the actual game, The Answer is epilogue stuff that ruins the characters

>>270969786
The Answer is the extra epilogue part where Aigis is the protagonist, it takes place after the main game and is full of spoilers.

>>270969786
The Answer is the epilogue.

Obviously you should play that after finishing the main story, The Journey

>>270969981
Yeah , I am on the Journey. Junpei and yosuke are like broish characters right. Seems like you get bro friend pretty early on.

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>>270969183
P3P also has waifu protag and husbando s-links

>>270969901
I really don't see how?

I mean the way they act is pretty understandable, considering what they just recently went through.

And the extra character sections deal with their past, and how they came to gain their abilities. I think it was handled pretty well.

And The Answer also had the best P3 song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4ZIU1B1zIE

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>>270970182

Shinji best husbando!

>>270969518
The dungeon crawling in IS/EP is superior to P3/P4.

P2 would be the GOAT Persona game(excluding P5 till we see how that turns out) if the combat wasn't so slow.

>>270970081
hah, yeah those 2 are the bro's in the game.

Both are pretty good characters. I like Junpei a bit more but that may be more nostalgia than anything. Yosuke did alot of bro-tier things for the MC in P4.

>>270969183
P3P is fucking shit don't ever play it

>>270970182

>i don't know what to do either

lol, as if. FeMC is a weeb slut who wants the d so bad.

>>270970382
Kanji is a little gay ? lol

>>270970315
i really need to get around to playing Persona 2.

I have the undub version on my psp but have yet to start it.

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>>270968143
i know right, let me help

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>>270970446

>>270970495
lol he is quite the confused individual.

good comic relief

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>>270970382
yosuke is less a bro friend and more a boyfriend

>>270970446
Yeah i compared psp vs ps2 version ps2 wins.

>>270970572
What's it like having shit taste in the worst version of Persona 3?

>>270970446
why

>>270970936
Why don't you like FES anon?

>>270970952
It cuts out everything from the game except Tartarus, FeMC makes literally NO SENSE. Alll of the game is cut out except for tartarus, all of it. That includes the game world, cutscenes, models, everything. It's all replaced with pictures of the world and pictures of cutscenes and shit texts

>>270970780

Gay or not, Yosuke pulled 90% the detective. Occassional Yu or Yukiko would fill in some blanks but he was the only one actively pursuing answers on the team until Naoto joined.

>>270971034
FES is fucking awesome I was saying P3P was shit. My bad I thought that picture was disagreeing with P3P being horseshit

>>270971156
How does FeMC not make "sense"? She's an alternate protagonist. She isn't canon.

It does suck that they took out the dinky PS2 models and replaced them with an overhead view with sprites, but that's just the limitations of the PSP. The overall game is way better. Being able to control your fucking party is a huge plus after they fucked me constantly throughout FES

Also just started this recently, currently about to fight the floor 14 boss. That music, god dayum.

How do I get better weapons and clothes? The police station is still just offering the same weapons I started with, and getting even a slightly better weapon in Tartarus is rare.

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I'm playing P3P myself. First time experiencing any Persona title.

I'm a little over halfway through, but I already have a theory that Aigis is secretly a Cyborg Midwife from System Shock 2.

They have the same speech patterns, even share some of the exact same lines like "It must be eliminated"!

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Persona 3 Mc makes me feel like shit because he gets all the girls ,he's really good at his Studies and handsome (no homo) ,then i look at my life and see i havemt done shit with it

>>270971260
Oh it is, but FES is my favorite version. I just don't seem to hate P3P like you do, I think it's fine for what it is. Just a different angle on a great game.

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>>270971210
yeah but i didnt say boyfriend was a bad thing

>>270971546
It would have been much better without all the cut content however.

>>270971414
Being able to control your party is awful because the game wasn't balanced for it and it takes away from the characters. FeMC makes no sense because Ryoji and Pharos shouldn't be male when you play as her and allowing Shinji to live makes Akihiko and Ken getting their ultimate personas not make sense because he's OK

>>270965938
>those dynamic animu reaction flashes
>character images having more than one pose
I can't believe people actually care about this shit.

>>270968828
What is this from

>>270970216
I think you forgot your link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap1ZyP92W2k

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KILLING ALL THE BIG SHADOWS BRINGS NYX, THE GOD OF DEATH ONTO HUMANITY.

IKUTSUKI BETRAYS YOU AND KILLS MITSURU'S DAD.

THE LITTLE BLUE HAIRED BOY IS A FRAGMENT OF A DEATH GOD THAT WAS TRAPPED IN YOU AS A BOY.

ALSO THE THING THAT CAME OUT OF ORPHEUS IS DEATH.

TARTARUS EXISTS BECAUSE THE SCHOOL WAS ONCE A SHADOW EXPERIMENTATION LAB.

YOU USE UP ALL YOUR LIFE FORCE AT THE END TO BE A BARRIER BETWEEN NYX AND THE EMBODIMENT OF HUMANITY'S LONGING FOR DEATH

>>270971684
What's been cut exactly? All I seem to be missing are anime cutscenes and the epilogue chapter that nobody seems to like anyway.

>>270971443
Stop playing P3P right now and play FES. P3P is literally the worst way to get into Persona

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>>270970446
Why do people hate P3P?
Do they really need those cheap, iffy-at-best animu cutscenes? Granted I played the original first, so I didn't really need to see them again so the stills didn't bother me.

The navigation map system kind of bugged me though. While it is a LOT quicker to get around and get through the day, the in-game cutscenes were charming and brought the world to life more. But again, since I played it before I guess I didn't miss it too much.

Not having party members cast spells on immune enemies and being able to cycle abilities to find weaknesses that I can't remember more than make up for that.

And no more MARIN KARIN
>>270970510
Her voice a shit.
I loved every other thing about her, but what the fuck man. My ears.

>>270971546
Naoto didn't do shit, she just repeated everyhting they already knew, even Chie, of all people, was more useful finding clues than her,

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>>270971476
On the other hand, you're still alive and also you didn't turn into a door.

>>270971771
P3FES, secret quest from Liz

>>270971752
well i cant argue with that, those are some legitimate criticisms. i cant say they really bothered me much or took anything away for me

the gender thing with ryoji and pharos is true but getting pissed about it feels like a nitcpick

>>270971771
Based on the name and the background, a modded as fuck version of GTA SA

>>270969183
>However a lot of these problems are fixed by P3P

Objectively wrong. Go FES. Play P3P only after you've done that.

>>270971868
I hate it because it's a shit version of a great game. While the cutscenes lack quality in some times they're leagues better then those shit text boxes in P3P. You like the in-game cutscenes which are also great but those aren't in P3P either. You're also a fucking pleb who never thought to actually scan or use the tactics menu because if you did you wouldn't be bitching about marin karin

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>>270971853
How am I supposed to play FES without a PS2, PS3, Vita or PC capable of emulating?
My PSP is the absolute only link I have to the Persona series right now, so I'm going with what I got.

>>270969901
>ruins the characters

*Except Junpei

>>270972185
are you mad or something

>>270971476
>Stay up late at night even though you have like 3 essays to turn in
>Your MC is almost to max study rating, acing his tests, banging the only fuckable girls in school while balancing that shit with Tartarus
I feel like shit while playing too. If only it was so easy.

>>270972029
It's not really a nitpick because Ryoji in the normal and better version of P3 explains that he is how is because of you, meaning he's male because of you. You being female would alter him to be just as flirty as he was only as a women now. It's lazy and stupid

>>270971919
Fucking faggot,i didnt want to say those things because i was thinking of OP ,now you ruined the experencie

>>270972240
you can ignore these people, even if P3P could be called inferior it's like an A- versus an A+. pretty much negligible unless you're a pathetic nerd

>>270972280
Koromaru doesn't change much either.

Ken is also infinitely less of a shithead, though that might be because Yukari was going crazy with jealousy so I didn't notice him much.

>>270972282
I am mad because P3P has spawned this cancer that constantly recommends this awful version of a great experience and the cancer finds nothing wrong with it. They've even diluted themselves into thinking it's an OK game and they constantly whine about no other FeMC in the other games.

>>270971785
Heartfelt Cry was good until they said "lets not use the piano for the main tune"

>>270971414
>control your fucking party is a huge plus

But still, only "a" plus. Too much other stuff was lost to make P3P the go-to version. FES is just better.

>>270972478
Calm the fuck down, you're embarrassing yourself.

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>>270972478
Now's our chance for an all out attack!

>>270972240
your computer can easily emulate FES with the right plugins. Search up the latest speed ones they make it super easy to emulate. P3P should never be your first persona game

>>270972478
The debate between FES and P3P will never end.
The only reason P3P isn't a complete peace of shit is FeMC who is absolutely fantastic.

>>270972359
Not him but Thanatos is a male personification of death in Greek Mythology. Which Pharos/Ryoji virtually is when he reveals his true form to you.

So it still makes sense.

>>270972563
>>270972619
>P3Pfags can't actually form and argument so they rely on nothing

>>270972706
This, I never understood why Pharos "needs" to be the same gender as the MC.

>>270971868
>Why do people hate P3P?

I don't hate P3P, but at the end of the day it's a watered-down FES with less content. There is absolutely no reason to get it over FES if you're playing for the first time.

>>270972748
I'm not involved, I just think you're embarrassing yourself.

>>270971868
>Why do people hate P3P?
Because the Persona fanbase is cancerous, they had rather a game with shit gameplay than one with great things in P3P:

>Double Protagonist.
>SLs with party members and new SLs.
>Part time jobs.
>Skill Cards
>Vision Quests.
>New Personas.
>Better UI.
>Improved Battle system.
>Can fight Margareth.
>New music for battle and school for FeMC.
>Can choose Velvet Room assistant.
>New costumes.
>Messiah doesnt suck.
>Lovely square button.
>Can save in your classroom.
>Can save Shinji and use him in VQs
>Can choose with who spend last day.

P3Fes is objectively shittier but faggots gonna be fags.

>>270972697
>peace of shit

>>270972706
Except Ryoji only takes a male form because he was placed within a male host. Shadows have no gender.

Also Thanatos being a male personification just makes FeMC not fit into the story even more

>>270972748
>didn't read the thread

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>>270972478
You're like one of those guys who gets pissed off when people watch the colorized version of a black-and-white movie.

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>>270972748
Maybe I don't care about arguing on 4chan of all places, so suck my dong biiiiitch.

>>270972856
It's late anon. I need to go to bed.

>>270972842
>P4G shit in P3 means that P3P is better even though 75% of the game isn't even in it

>>270972423

It's not that he doesn't change much, it's that Junpei has changed. A lot. For the better. He's making more mature decisions than Mitsuru, for crying out loud.

>>270972881
Shit argument. You're experience the same experience only now with colour. P3P is like watching a silent slide show of a black and white film

>>270972185
Nigga you upset.

Like I said, the in-game cutscenes not being in P3P is indeed a bummer. But on the grand scale of things, P3 was a great game because of the story, characters and combat. Not the animations or anime cutscenes. I don't know how that makes it a "shit version" when the meat of the game is still in place.

>>270972478
Everyone who recommends P3P readily admit the missing features. But you probably just get buttmad because you don't want to admit to the good features that it introduced.
I don't know anyone who played P3P first and said it ruined the series for them because of the changes it has from the original version. The only people who tend to consider it utter shit are people who, for whatever reason, are utterly loyal to the other versions. It's bordering on console war levels of retarded.

>>270972987
>muh 3D
Literally the only argument faggots have, cancerous fanbase indeed.

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>>270971615

People hate P3P because of its fanbase, a bunch of idiots obsessed with FeMC that delude themselves into thinking she's canon and that her game is better.

P3P is an alternate version of Persona 3 that improves in some aspects and degrades the experience in others. It's an objectively inferior first Persona 3 experience, and not definitive, but it has enough unique content to justify playing it after having played FES.

P3Pfags can't accept this. To them it is the ultimate game, and people eventually get so tired of them that they hate the game itself. Similar to how it's cool to hate FFVII because of its being overrated.

>>270972842
what did square do again?

>>270972873
No, Pharos/Ryoji/Thanatos is a male because in Greek Mythology he is the son of Nyx and Erebus. His gender is already determined much like many other mythological beings in the MegaTen series (Izanagi being male and Izanami being female according to Shintoism and YHVH being male according the Abrahamic religions), just because his essence is bound to a female host doesn't mean he turns into a woman.

It's like saying a female botfly larvae in a male human is suddenly a male because it has a parasitic relationship with a male host.

MARIN KARIN

>>270973194
dude, there's people who like P3P and then there are the faggots you described

you understand there is a difference right

>>270973287
Lets you fast travel to any part of the school witouth having to waste time running.

>>270973291
Then why is Orpheus female for FeMC?

>>270973410
actually the entire sprite set up of P3P is a huge time saver in general.

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>>270973194
But I agree with all of this, tell me why I can't like P3P?

>tfw I don't care about a game's fanbase

>>270973410
ah right. yeah the travel menus were great.
probably the best part about p3p was how fast you got done with the overworld segments.

>>270973504
Well i meant compared to P3Fes, but square is still an useful option.

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Aigis's speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkDrBWgo3XU

Cyborg Midwife speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LjtSogs0qM

Vocal distortion aside, it's unnerving how much they sound alike. Though I was traumatized by those cyborg midwives at a pretty young age...

>>270973491
orpheus is a persona named after a god

he isnt a metal harp-playing robot either

>>270973382
The reasonable P3P fans have a small footprint, since they just discuss the game.

The ones I'm talking about go into every thread to convince newbies they should start with P3P and ignore FES entirely. They are the ones everyone sees.

The sane P3P fans are no different from FES fans, so no one takes note of them or bases their opinions of the game on them.

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>>270969183
>play a visual novel version of the game then play the slog that is the answer.

I have never seen more wrong of a statement and clearly you are not very experienced if you couldn't even figure out how to utilize the knockdown command.

>>270973729
P3P is a better starting point than Fes though.

Is the best version.

>>270973729
>ITT Silent majority

Dammit, I started FES on emulation today
I got about an hour in before realizing that the name input at the beginning has last name first
That was annoying

>>270973491
Because Thanatos in the context of Pharos/Ryoji is an independent being that was bound to the protagonist by Aigis and retains his own personality and sentience.

Orpheus on the other hand is a Persona from the sea of the protagonist's soul and is their initial one so it reflects them idealistically and to an extent physically (Izanagi looking like a bancho, Jirarae looking like a superhero, Polydfsdf looking like an immature warrior etc.)

>>270973065
Sorry, should have said "from where he was at the end of Persona 3". Junpei's character arc was done, that's why he got to be the mature one. Mitsuru I think was a legitimately missed opportunity: In the main game she's the brainiac, but her character arc and S Link is all about getting in touch with her feelings and saying what she wants. I think she should have been much more active in her desire to break the Great Seal, and not just following Yukari. She's had enough loss in a year.

>>270973194
>Caring about fanbases
>Not calling a truce in that case to purge the P4 scum
Misled in all directions.

It's far from the ultimate game. FES is still highly recommended, but the combat tweaks, social links, female mc and the simple fact that it's portable do make it easy to prefer. Shitting on the other option isn't needed, and anyone(ps2 or psp loyalist) should be called out for that type of bullshit. They both offer things the other doesn't, but if it comes to experiencing the main P3 story with good gameplay, I do find it hard to recommend anything in place of p3p. To me FES is something you play after if you're really itching for more story. Better gameplay always comes first though, imo.

>>270973953
why are you all so mad

i know how to troll future persona 3 threads now

>>270973975
P3P has the most content, but some much of the soul is lost since its just portraits over backgrounds.

>>270974031
Thats how Japanese games are when asking for name imput.

>>270974146
Not really, VN styles are a valid medium to tell an story. To me its just bias towards it because Fes exists.

>>270973632
Jeeze, that's really uncannily similar. Maybe that's just how female voice-actors do androids/cyborgs but damn. Thanks for sharing though, you reminded me that I need to play SS2.

>>270973650
Orpheus wasn't a God. I recommend you read the mythology surrounding him, it's pretty sad/funny.

>>270974146
I didn't mind the portrait+backgrounds at all since that's how the story was told in the first place. What bugged me is having full party control. You're stupid not to use it at all times, but it DID make your NPCs feel more like their own people.

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>>270971868
It has nothing to do with the anime cutscenes the entire game world is removed. MC can no longer use every weapon or fuse weapons with Personas and powerful fusion spells are reduced to limited use items. I have done max slink runs on both versions and playing the portal version first is just stupid it is much better saved as a second run for Femc.

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>>270974109
>Not calling a truce in that case to purge the P4 scum

You do know Persona 3 is far from the difficulty of the mainline games, has the same type of waifufags and not to mention that Tartarus is a steaming pile of garbage?

>>270974468
Flock off Metatron.

>>270974468
Now if only mainline was good at anything else.

>>270974293
Its viable, but its much more interesting to see the characters actually act out the events rather than just being told what is happening in my opinion.

Also its an english audience and they don't even use the "Surname first first name last" thing in game, so they should have switched it around for input. Its not a huge deal but it would have been nice

>>270974439
no one cares about those nitpicks but you and your fellow faggots

>>270974439
Is Fuuka stuck? What a fucking nerd.

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personafags and smtfags are equally cancerous

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>>270974537
But Lucifer agrees with Betatron in this case, Persona 3 and Persona 4 are pretty much the same games with a few tweaks here and there and shares the same fanbase filled with waifufags.

>>270974635
Better combat and better dungeons that are leagues ahead of Tartarus and whatever Persona 4 has.

Just going to ask this here since there's not going to be a 2 thread this century. Where does the original version of this song play in Eternal Punishment?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6CbyHzJsh4

>>270974416
As frustrating as it was, I liked not being able to control my party. Giving them more equivocal orders made you feel more like a leader in my opinion, rather than someone playing as all 4 characters.

>>270974293
yeah vn style is fine. i'd say it even fits the setting well. some people just prefer the flashier stuff though. i guess vns still carry the stigma of "durr i don't want to read a book" and just throws some people off.

>>270974468
mainline is shit anyway. difficulty doesnt equal a better or worse game either, especially one as story and dialog heavy as p3.
plus p4 came out later so it's obviously worse and full of babby fans right?
i don my fedora and hipster glasses.

Id definitely say FES should be played first and P3P should be played second.
FES has better gameplay (Changeable weapons for MC, fusion spells) better graphics, animated cutscenes, and you can actually see whats happening

P3P's biggest pro is FeMC, which even the game says you should play second to appreciate it the most. Also you can control your party, but its not like the game is so hard that you need that. Only a few bosses should even hold you up.
Both are acceptable ways to play the game but I definitely agree that FES should be first.

>>270974741
>entire systems and features removed
>nitpicks

Just because your delusional doesn't mean you have to trick newcomers into playing the inferior game. Sorry that laughing table slapped your shit so hard you need direct commands.

>>270974805
>Implying.

The ratio of Persona fans and how much they are pandered makes the mainline fanbase much better.

>>270975046
>FES has better gameplay.

Stopped reading there.

>>270974839
>Better combat and better dungeons that are leagues ahead of Tartarus and whatever Persona 4 has.
Yeah, that's what I mean. Now if only mainline was better on any front but gameplay. You cannot maintain a JRPG on gameplay alone. Nocturne is boring by the 5 hour mark because there's nothing else to it but recruiting demons and fusing them.

>>270970315
grinding the cards are enough to drive anyone insane

Why are we all getting so hostile about FES vs P3P?

CAn't we get along? They both have their pros and cons

P3P is objectively better from a gameplay perspective, and strictly a gameplay perspective.

Controlling your party members is just too great, and it's less grindy because of this since you can use more tactics in battle and don't need higher levels to compensate for shitty AI. Saying 'the game isn't balanced around controlling your party members' is a shitty excuse used by FESfags who want to downplay the biggest improvement the portable version has over the original.

There's also other time-saving improvements like being able to heal at the clock at Tartarus, fast travel, being able to resume the Tartarus from any floor in return for paid healing, etc.

That said, from a non gameplay perspective, FES is superior.

>>entire systems and features removed.
>What you gain in P3P surpass what Fes has to offer.

This is why i cant take Fes fans seryously.

>>270975159
Now see, I actually like Persona but if you were in front of me right now I'd deck you. Fusing and fighting demons is fun. Nocturne's negotiation system is the actual worst in the franchise.

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I really gotta say, while I love P3P more than FES, the ending lost a lot of it's build up by not having the cinematic. The elevator scene and then defying Nyx's gravity shit just culminated in this really good feel that you had come such a long way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrGP9ssc_TE

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That's a mighty killer look you got there Adachi

>>270975226
Because the P3P fags try to get people interested in the series to play P3P first, poisoning their initial P3 experience.

>>270975120
actually I vastly prefer FES, so nice try, but you purist idiots look like a bunch of babies in this thread

>>270975346
You aren't getting along

Stop fighting

>>270975346
Wait a second... you're baiting. Goddamn it I feel like the biggest moron.

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>>270975147
the best fanbase is the one that likes both series

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>>270975346
I think you're taking this way too seriously.

>>270974963
>mainline is shit anyway. difficulty doesnt equal a better or worse game either, especially one as story and dialog heavy as p3.
The entire franchise is shitty then because Persona draws heavily from the combat system and dungeon crawling aspect of mainline with tweaks and changes.

>plus p4 came out later so it's obviously worse and full of babby fans right?
They were released two years from each other so I'm not seeing a wide enough release gap to justify saying there's a large generational gap between the games.

As I've stated before, both games share a fanbase. And ATLUS knows this because there are a fair amount of games that have both casts of characters.

>i don my fedora and hipster glasses.
Oh alright.

>>270975159
There's plenty of story in the mainline games, it's just not the highschool sim that you seem to like.

>>270975474
Stop responding, there's a shitstirer trying to get some jollies and way too many people are getting invested.

>>270975387
Nice try but it's not nice to tell lies on the internet. The AI in P3P was never altered to make up for the fact that direct party controlled was added. You are playing on brain dead easy mode and probably still have a hard time.

>>270975340
At least i can choose to who´s lap die in.

>>270975346
>Implying
They play the best version first.

>>270975474
Its hard to like both when the series is milked so much that the originals stop being liked.

>>270975345
i would let adachi ram me so hard and then blow a huge instant ramen-flavored load in my mouth

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>>270975607
Both fanbases are annoying when you have nostalgia fans and new age fans. It's not fun when they bitch about each others shit taste.

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>>270975593
"lies on the internet"

>>270975607
The originals haven't stopped being liked, they've stopped being made. My entry point was P3, but since then I've acquired and finished every SMT released in NA (except Jack Bros. Dammit). My favorite is DDS1, but I played and enjoyed SMT 4.

The milking is not the problem, the problem is that when one fanbase aren't being catered to they start crap with the larger fanbase, thus poisoning everyone's opinion of the other fandom.

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>>270975981
DDS1 had the better story, but I did prefer them improving some of the combat in DDS2. Though Nocturne still has the best combat system that doesn't make it feel like an older 1st person dungeon crawler.

>>270975981
I meant P3&4, i mean i licked the characters but the milking made me hate them. Its too much overexposure.

Milking IS a problem, the characters have been becoming more annoying and one dimentional as more spinoffs are made.

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Less arguing, more posting of best girl

>>270975346
If you can't decide which one to play after seeing them side-by-side, if you've got to go online and have somebody tell you what to play, you're probably not going to get anything out of this game anyway.

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>>270976336
Okay

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>>270976336
My favorite pairing is MCxFemC. Post pictures of them.

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>>270976336
Sure

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>>270976486
Isn't that basically every game recommended on /v/ or other sites?

>>270976608
Lewd.

>>270976685
You mean selfcest?

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Ya cool thread but which demon wud u fug?

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>you will never meet a qt that is infused with death incarnate

>>270976825
pictureforants.jpg

And sure why not, though I prefer to think that they're twins or cousins.

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>>270976825
Literally why?

>>270976905
I want a Lilim.

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>>270976905
I wonder how it'd feel to have a foursome with them.

>>270976336
Best pairing is ultimate noncanon pairing
I mean FeMC and Shinji natch

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>>270976825
>thumbnail
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

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>>270977039
It wouldnt go so well for you.

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>>270976976
>>270977000
Removed it.

>>270977039
A lot of bondage, and right before you orgasm, Atropos cuts your string

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>>270977295
>>270977378
Sign me the fuck up.

>>270971832
You can to type out ALL that shit to spoil Persona 3. You only have to type out Adachi is the killer to spoil P4.

Now which has a better story?

>>270977465
Not really. MC dies is the classic way to spoil it

>>270977465
Complicatedness =/= better story necessarily

But yeah P3 was better story wise. P4 felt like too much of a come down in scope. If P5 can at least strike a balance between the two, i suppose i can deal. It better be higher stakes than P4 tho

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>>270977628
You could also spoil Aigis becomes human during the last month.

So what will Potter-kun's name be?
Will it just be Potter-kun here?
I mean P3 has MC, P4 has Brotag, P5's protagonist needs a name, but Id be surprised if we just stick with Potter-kun

>>270977465
Nah there's more to Filler is the Chic-fil-A

Stuff like Namatame, Izanami, what the three people represent, details of the fog, details of the TV world, what Teddie is, Nanako's tweeeeest and so on.

Not to mention the classic way is MC becomes a door

>>270966723
I never finished that social link, is the MC actually the bathroom smoker?

>>270977759
Thats not really the same spoiler level that MC dies or Adachi is the killer is
>>270977834
No, the actual smoker goes to the council member and turns in his lighter offscreen, and then the council member gives you the lighter as his SL item

>>270977834
In the game? No.

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>>270977797
I prefer the page with all the reactions.

>>270977978
>Minato's vision
That is a truly lovely back.

>>270977812
MC Harry

Sounds gangsta

>>270977978
Do not sexualize Non Canon-chan

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>>270977823
He's more like a padlock actually. And the Velvet Room being an elevator going up an infinitely tall building was a nice touch.

Why does no one ever spoil P1 or P2 duo.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emEZgQzUZMc

>not onii-chan/imouto

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>>270978221
Because most people haven't played it. Did you hear about the rumor that Tatsuya is gay?

>>270978221
No one cares about it.

Mainlinefags don't care about it, the modern Personafags don't care about it, ATLUS doesn't care about it.

The games are like Tatsuya forgetten by everyone and friendless. also gay

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>>270971832
Those left out the best arc which was the Chidori one.

Her power was equivalent exchange healing the entire time

>>270977465
I don't think you can spoil Persona 4. The story never really seems too important - people just want to eat omelets and win beauty pageants. Adachi never even kills anybody.

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>>270978297
You know, that whole thing reminds me that all modern Persona girls can't cook for shit. The only reason P3 guys were lucky is they didn't have a cook out that they were forced to eat.

i like persona because there isnt a simple one-liner spoil you can do to ruin the game

it takes several lines to mention HEY FAGGOT THIS HAPPENED AND ITS BECAUSE
but by that time youve already looked away

sure adachi is the killer but that doesnt answer any questions, that just raises more and how the hell that works

sure you turn into a door, but that litterally makes no sense and needs story buildup to have any oomph behind it

thanks persona

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>>270978452
Except you are most likely to get a P1&2 discussion in smtg than in pg. Plus at least the P1&2 fanbase gets along.

ATLUS indeed have retconed P1&2.

>Currently playing through P4G
>Have P3 FES for my PS2
>Barely played it because it was so boring
>Enjoying the ever living fuck out of P4g
I think it's just because I'm playing P4G on a handheld. Something about P3 on console just doesn't feel right to me.

>>270978681
I like to think Shinji taught Fuuka how to cook.

>>270974439
I don't mind the game world though, the poorly rendered PS2 era models really don't make a big difference and aren't a selling point. Visual Novel esque style kept my immersion better.

Not like it matters if you can use different types of weapons in this game, they all do the same generic basic attack no matter the weapon type. What matters is the stats.

Only really lame thing is no fusion spells.

>>270978864
P3P is a thing you know

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>>270978681
>The only reason P3 guys were lucky is they didn't have a cook out that they were forced to eat.
Fuuka cooks for MC in her early social link, MC nopes the fuck out

Also Naoto can cook.

>>270978221
Played enough to know why.

Some stupid shit abut mummies, Dragons and Jun's dad is literally Hitler. It's asinine.

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>>270975607
>At least i can choose to who´s lap die in.
This will forever make P3P the superior version for me.

>tfw dying in waifu's lap

>>270978937
Not my Vita

>>270978737
Let's be honest, P1's gameplay was shit in Revelations, and the PSP remake didn't improve much, and P2's PSP EP never got localized because IS didn't do well in Japan.

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>>270978991
Yeah, but MC isn't forced the same way Yosuke and Protag are and Naoto can only cook due to her following instructions, but doesn't make it great tasting.

>>270975607
>choose whose lap to die in
That sounds nice.

>>270979069
P3P is on the Vita, it's on the PS store.

>>270978991
Fuuka would be a good waifu if she could cook.

A woman is a literal fuck-up if she can't cook. Hell, ANYONE who can't at least cook the basics is a failure as a human being.

>>270979069
You can in fact, play P1, P2, P3 and P4 on your Vita.

>>270979389
Did you even read my post? The Vita isn't mine, friend is just letting me borrow it.

>>270979281
Cool so what system should I play it on? Cuz I never said I owned a PS3

>>270979059
Same here.

>>270979106
I liked revelations gameplay, it was less boring than P2 at least. EP wasnt localized because of suposedly technical problems but could it be another ATLUS lies

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>>270979551
>could it be another ATLUS lies
>Lies

Todd Howard confirmed for Loki.

>>270978991
>>270978876
C'mon Fuuka learns how to cook in a week.

>>270979526
You can play PS store PSP games on the Vita you dummy

>>270979526
Then get a PSP and hack the shit out of it.

>>270979378
I've never understood the "girl cooks vile toxic substance instead of food" thing. Are common Japanese dishes that hard to make palatable? or is it just an absurd extension of an outdated joke on social norms?

>>270979702
I'm not paying money to play something on a system that I don't own, you dummy

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>Besides the auto battle, is there anything that P3 does that I should be aware of that wasn't in P4?

Oh boy where do I fucking start.
Symbolism. P4 has some but P3 has it in motherfucking abundance. Every single shit you do is symbolic. The journey of the hero, katabasis, the crucifixion, Pharos Ryoji and the main hero correlation, the inditividuation process (Jung), references to the pre-helenic cult to the moon, castor and polydeuces. Every single detail is just thought a lot better than P4

The build up for the last month in P4 seems forced and even out of pace, but in P3 it just fucking builds and builds until every single day more and more people start going crazy. It's a much better way than the one laid out in P4

AKI FUCKING NARI. Nothing can top this fucker on social links

The answer, in contrast with P4Golden, actually works as a nexus for the main story while golden is just a fucking ton of extra content with nothing additional added on it (and stuff that by most people ain't even canon)

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>>270979551
I have a feeling it was more than technical problems. If anyone could pull numbers, cause the only info I heard was that IS had poor sales in Japan, but nothing on the NA or EU side of things.

>>270979821
Its a japanese thing that its supposed to be funny, just like the hot spring shit. Its like japanese version of tripping from a banana peel.

>>270980002
As i said they may have lied but it could be sales as well, i understand them not localizing it but to me it sounds like ATLUS is no longer about making things for the players and now they are leaning more to their corporate side.

>>270979928
There was also Nyx and Erebus, and how Thanatos (her one son) was the symbol of her arrival, and Hypnos (another son) brought more people closer to her through the cult. There was also the fact that Orpheus was just a head on a robot body, like how his mythology ended with him being torn apart by a cult of Dionysus when he blasphemed the gods after failing to bring back Eurydice.

>>270979687
>>270979378
Man aren't we forgetting Fuuka engineers and BUILDS some fucking badass headphones just so she could give them to you?

>>270979928
>Nothing can top this fucker on social links
I'm trying to come up with something but I'm actually blanking. Touche motherfucker.

>>270980281
Dude, P2 EP came out when Index was a sinking ship. Keep in mind that Index was corrupt as hell and Japanese companies primarily look at home market sales and Atlus was their sockpuppet.

>>270979928
Fore was always designed as one of those old detective fiction books. It's different and I can understand that the main problem is like FFVII the "fandom" only saw the wrong part of the game.

I just wished they'd played up the supernatural shit a bit more. Namatame is like this unstoppable supernatural entity that could break into peoples homes and wrestled a kid twice his size into a Television yet they never talk about it. Same dealie with Adachi's ability to control Shadows. Makes me wonder if there was cut content or something.

>>270980674
I wouldnt fault index for that, its like people saying that it was because of index that the milking began wich to me its false since they keep milking them even now.

>>270980696
I hear the story was changed late in development to make Adachi the killer. I'm really surprised that Atlus didn't do more with the Izanami story since MegaTen started as one, so I suspect P4 had a very interesting production history.

>>270965938
What a coincidence, I just started emulating as well.

How does this game manage to look and play better than Persona 4? It boggles my fucking mind. The characters are certainly lacking at this point in the game, but I know they will get better.

Yukari is a gigantic slut.

>>270980810
What you're seeing with Persona 4 is actually really common. Most games are media franchises in Japan, with promo CDs, books, live shows, media interviews, swag of varying quality, etc. The only thing that's unique about Persona (4) in that regard is how much of it is coming out of Japan.

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>>270981020
What did you just say about my waifu?

>>270981020
>spoiler
The exact opposite actually; she's got really high standards. She comes on real hard to MC even before you meet hers though.

>>270971414
> That's just the limitations of PSP

NIGGA TARTURUS AND ITS BATTLES WERE IN 3D THEN WHY THE FUCK WOULDNT A FEW EXTRA CUTSCENES MAKE IT IN

>>270978528
Stupei's romance with Chidori was the most hamfisted shit ever.

They had nothing in common, their only connection was the fact that he saw her painting some random shit on the street. She also tried to fucking kill him. Literally the only reason he liked the le emotionless grill was because she was the only one who wasn't immediately repulsed by his beta face, probably because she was legit autistic in the literal sense of the word.

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>Chihiro

>>270981616
Nah i see it more as Jumpei hero complex, he thought he could help her since its apparent she had problems so he stuck with her for that reason and then he slowly felt in love.

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All women yearn for the Brotag dick.

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>>270981492
Hell, you can give her a cooldown hug before you have a chance to even start dating her. She's also your pity date for the festival if you haven't started a relationship with a girl SL yet which would be a bad idea to wait that long since balancing the girl SL is hell on earth.

>>270970295
My P3P run ended when Shinji went to the hospital. I couldn't bring myself to continue.

>>270982373
I never finished any girlfriend social links over the whole game. Once Yuko started getting all reversed over me hanging out with the student council girl, I just stopped hanging out with either of them.

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>>270971771
>What is this from

Persona 3: Iced bustas edition.

>>270982756
Wait, does Shinjiro survive in P3P?

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>>270982872
Are you pic related?

>>270983000
Only if you do his SL as a grill

>>270983000
He's in a coma. Probably forever. Not canon so who cares?

>>270983000
If you play FeMC and max Shinji's social link (romance optional), you give him a watch which protects him and leaves him in a coma.

In NG+ he wakes up during the ending sequences.

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>>270982872
Dude, Yuko gives you the best STR based characters since Siegfried is OP as fuck, and I think you need a few of their ultimate personas to make other ultimate personas. Once they mention how being with other girls may cause problems, you basically spend all your personas and dates trying to max their SL as fast as possible since the minute you talk to another girl they reverse and take too long and links reverse naturally.

>>270982373
iirc P3P is a lot kinder about timelimits for dating the girls, but you still need to start Chihiro or Yuuko basically immediately, and rush to max Courage for Fuuka. School-only S Links are hell. I actually only have ever seen the Aigis date event. What's Yukari like?

>>270982872
There's some time thing there. You have to meet with a girl every 60 days or the link reverses. If you're going out with them, meeting any girl not named Mai decreases your time by fifteen days. A lot of people mess this up with Chihiro, since you unlock her early and probably forget about her while you're doing others.

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>>270983228
>>270983117
>>270983095
Still gonna die due to those lovely pills Takaya and Jin gave him. I think Ikutsuki was the one who gave it to them in the first place. Since he was the guy who experimented on them in the first place.

>>270983000
In the most horribly cliche way imaginable.

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>>270983442
Yeah pretty much.

Fun all around. Since FeMC is non-canon, I like to keep a head canon that FeMC and Shinji live happily ever after.

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>>270983297
Yukari takes time to warm up to you since after her mother threw herself at multiple men after her father died and rumors were spread about him, she doesn't really warm up to guys very easily. But she's so damn adorable when she starts letting slip that she loves you. My waifu for life.

I want to brutally fuck yukari and tenderly love mitsuru and I dont know which is worse

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I feel like I have to wash myself after doing Chihiro's social link.

Why do faggots like her again?

>>270983095
>>270983117
>>270983228
>>270983507
So does somebody else die or what? I thought that was a big deal, thematically.

>>270983676
Because she is the hottest, even the P4 cast agrees.

Top tier waifu.

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>>270983774
>She is the hottest

>>270983095
Nah, I didn't want to date any of the girls. I was more interested in Bebe.

>>270983282
That sure sounds like a lot of trouble! I finished the game just fine, though.

>>270983858
When the game characters and real people agree then it means she is something.

Stop being a hipster.

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>>270983774
Please, she gets some confidence, but the fact that Mitsuru still needs to help her shows how bad she is. And the fact that not even her mention of MC helping her out doesn't make her any better. Maybe they like her being yandere?

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>>270983553
OTP

At least they get to die together.

>>270984191
She strives to get better and in the end she acomplishes it. She is great and i have a hardon for meganekos

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Bumping for more incest twins.