You guys need to git gud
This combo is fucking amazing if you get the soy milk first. I have no other damage up items and I'm one shotting everything.
>MFW Boss rush
That wasn't a secret treasure room.
I made it to the fight with the bloat and mask of infamy before lasers from off screen killed me.
>playing as Azazel
>Have Quad Tears and a bunch of other attack buffs
>Am OP as fuck
>Go to boss rush
>One shot most of the bosses in seconds
>Hearts dropping everywhere
>No health lost as a result
i just did a run with azazel that i got a item that transformed my brimstone in a circle, and i controlled that circle across the map, what the fuck was that. im amazed until now. hearth was down in 4 seconds. what the fuck
what the fuck
anyone got to the room after Mom where you fight all the normal bosses?
shit is intense. thanks ludivigo technique
the only way to unlock the nail is there? i didnt even knew what i was doing when in the end it was unlocked
there is even a chevo for that? im playing the DRM-free version
I honestly wish I could be shit at Isaac again
beating Mom's Heart is just a formality at this point, and it's really hurt my enjoyment of Rebirth that it's not even been challenging up to this point
Seems to be a common problem as well, I'm seeing a ton of posts on /v/ about how people are breezing through Mom kills
is this gonna be free for plus members on PS4? i heard somewhere that it was
>see this post
>I unlocked the fucker so why not?
>3 (THREE) black hearts
>F R E E brimstone
>every upgrade I get is either DMG, HP + something else or soul hearts
>mfw lil brimstone
>pretty much guaranteed to beat Mom every run
>no problem beating Mom's heart given that I've survived Utero
>can't even consistently make it past Caves I
Just got home and downloaded it.
>first run, beat mom
>second run, choose azazel, get polyphemus immediately
and then pick up mom's toenail and get fucked by the random foot FUCK YOU EDMUND
>mfw I died one hit away from killing the last boss in boss rush
>tfw BloatBro takes out Mask of Infamy in one blood beam
How the fuck do you people get useful item drops?
I swear I've just gotten Bob's Rotten Head and Wooden Spoons all fucking day.
The only decent drop I've gotten was Brimstone Buddy which I finally beat Mom with.
Shitty problem related to OpenGL and Edmund/Nicalis/Both's incompetence.
Currently Edmund and Tyrone seem to have vanished, as expected of Devs whenever a massive problem arises.
this is annoying
my projectile speed is so slow, its not very effective
It's been duke for me everytime.
Just destroyed him with gemini
would you get items from the poop snake one or would it just hinder you. Also that boob tube one looks neato
I didn't see a Steam Trading thread so I'm posting these Humble Bundle codes here.
These shitty games could be yours if you want to waste your time typing in the URL!
Tales From Space is ok
I remember when I reached this when I had that baby that takes our hearts and gives soul hearts. I was with Azazel so I couldn't even use normal hearts so shit turned out amazing
Changed the graphics, fixed some bugs. Introduced a ton of new items, enemies, bosses. Changed how a lot of special rooms work and added new things to them. Basically it's like they took the original game (with WotL), changed the graphics, then added another expansion to it.
Would have had Mama's Boy in the same run as Spelunker and Dark Boy, but I got hit at the end of the mom's heart fight.
Something seems a lot easier about this game. After two hours, I already beat Mom and Mom's heart. That took me at least ten hours to achieve in the original Isaac. Yeah, I am a lot more skilled at Issac than I was when I first played the original, but even with recent original Issac runs, even after 100 hours I still have a challenge.
Seems like I'm just getting ridiculously good powerups every time, walking into rooms and enemies are just exploding left and right.
Just how hard is hard mode? Is hard mode more like normal from the original or somehing?
I immediately put it on hard after my first normal run and honestly it seems about the same to me. I can't tell what it changes. Maybe more champions?
Even Isaac wasn't that hard and my weapons were dogshit because I rerolled them in one of those rooms.
>mfw the only one of those I have is Mama's Boy
Some people are saying that there was malware or something in the Polly version of the game. Anyone want to tell me what it was? I downloaded it and my malware detectors can't see shit.
There seem to be a good bit of random items in this now. I picked up the placenta which is supposed to give health regen, but it's not with enemies or rooms. I think it goes off time, but the interval between heals seems random. Still useful though
They used "Steam Achievement Manager", you get any achievement that you want from any game with that thing, FOR FREE, the game had less than 8 hours out and around 20% already had the last achievement
Didn't play original much so don't know much about the game.
I wrecked mum and, her heart. Room with Satan appeared and i got to hell and killed Satan there.
What am i supposed to do now though? Is there some way to reach heaven? Will it be it then or what?
There is a branching path that can lead you to hell or a different place. Both of these places have another level AFTER them, with different final bosses. You'll have a bit of work to unlock the ability to go to the final final final levels though, just like how at first the game stopped you after beating Mom the first time.
So, how have old characters changed? My old best friend Cain lost his "only good or neutral pills" ability, which makes him a lot less fun. Samson seems to be completely different, before be got better damage in each room by killing enemies, but it only lasted that room. Now it seems he gains damage each time he gets hurt, and keeps the buff the whole floor. What else is new?
For now just try killing the bosses with the different characters. The character select screen shows icons that let you know which characters you've beaten the bosses (like the heart) before. Eventually bosses like the Heart get replaced by tougher ones too, the game goes through a lot of changes.
>I was only pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be retarded
>tfw you get a whole bunch of coins and are actually able to donate more than 15 of them before a coin jams
Samson got changed a lot I think. He seems to get rage from getting hurt, and it lasts the whole floor rather than 1 room. You can tell it works because he gets redder and his tears get bigger. It even works with sacrifice rooms and similar things that hurt you for prizes.
Also, is hard actually harder than vanilla Isaac?
I got platinum god in vanilla and some 250 hours, and I'm getting wrecked while playing in hard. Maybe it's just because I haven't unlocked as many game breaking items, but it feels like the invincibility frames after getting hit are much shorter and there are way more enemies that deal a full heart damage in the earlier levels.
>broken piece of shit at launch
>downscaling actually improves the quality by a shitload
what a garbage port and shit game, easily a pirate. fuck edmund faggot jew.
If your going to release full price 15 dollar indie garbage I expect better. This is literally rebranding an older better engine into flash and calling it a day. This is BoI content which he just rehashed and rebranded for extra shekels. Get fucked.
Not that guy but im doing the same, 4 tries, beat it 3 times as Isaac. Lost one as Cain because fucking lucky foot doesn't work on pills and it barely changes your luck in the arcade.
For some reason i havent been powerful at all, like the last time i beat it was the first time i had red goddamn tears, does everything has low health? it would explain why a lot of people are saying they're one shotting everything.
I already stated I haven't bought or pirated it. There is enough evidence to show the game is a garbage shit rehash port.
No need to be upset now. Goy.
>Playing this game for the first time ever.
>Die so fast
Shit son. I need to really git gud don't I? I'm forcing myself to play hardmode.
Just had a run with the manually controlled tear shot, got it in one of the basements and had it upgraded to full damage by the end of the caves, easiest run I've ever had
Park that shit on mom's heart or Isaac in the cathedral and it nullifies any tears they shoot and constantly deals damage
Fucking shills I swear.
I love this 1000+ comments of people crashing on start up.
Thou art disgusting. Back to /pol/ for you, video games are too exciting for crotchety old racists.
I am become lord of the flies, destroyer of worlds
>tfw im too lazy to go downstairs and play isaac on my hdtv/ps4
>rather play it on my 27' with 2 surrounding monitors so i can chat/watch netfix
dingle nerf fucking when
hes like the bloat + gurdy jr on the first goddamn floor
only one of his attacks has a telegraph and its the one thats impossible to dodge if you dont have a wall between you or at least like 2 speed ups
early game is hell now because of the chance of him or the stage 2 poop things showing up
>doing hard run
>gold room on right
>walk into room
>get this buddy
>beat mom fight
>hole opens in the wall
>go in and see a massive room with four items
>wonder what the catch is as I pick the first up
>bosses spawn in
>and they keep spawning
>and keep spawning
>die to death+war
Donation machine upgrades store room at 100 coins so everytime you go in it has 4 items
Probably other milestones.
It's almost like the game just came out and the people that were excited about it finally get to play it.
>Curse of Darkness
>Those big spiders with long legs
This is seriously pissing me off... What is making we randomly teleport upon taking damage?
>Start new run with a curse I've never seen
>Get lucky, find a Joker card
>Don't remember how much HP my character started with
>Realize I can't see my health
>Good deals with the devil
>Toggle the map on/off
>Suddenly realize my HP can't be seen anymore
>What the fuck Edmund this piece of shit is broken already?
>5 minutes later I finally realize it was the curse
Wasnt there supposed to be a price drop if you owned the original game
why is it still 15 fucking doodly doos
where can I find more of this
for scientific purposes
My first Eden run turned out OP as fuck: Guppy, Cricket's Head and more damage/tears modifiers than I can honestly remember
I forget its name, but there's an item that looks like the relic with white spikes on it. It lets you ignore the first hit and resets each room, and counts for these achievements. I got hit once on almost every room of the depths and still got Dark Boy.
>hate the soundtrack listening to it on bandcamp
>like it when I actually start playing the game
More polar bears?
>Saw some faggot complaining that you can't shoot diagonally in BoI some days ago
>Get R U A WIZARD?
So I just beat satan on my second run ever in this game. Either it's a lot easier or I got really lucky.
It's like $15, go mow a yard or two.
I didn't care too much for the first one, what exactly has changed in the new one?
And proof it was my second run.
Nah, I had really overpowered items already on my second run and you couldn't be near that powerful at this point. I'm guessing the later parts in this game are going to be a lot harder though. Moms heart was actually harder for example, more bullet hell shit.
This is one of the few games that has generally been hyped and managed to live up to expectations
Right now is by far the best time to play and discuss the game, there is no wiki and everything is new.
People should keep to one thread yes but people are retarded and no one has control over that
Better engine, tons more item, reworked item dynamics for more and better synergies, more enemies, more bosses, new large rooms, new secret rooms, boss rush, hard mode, local co-op, seeds, multiple save files, more characters
lot of items
different sized rooms
More items work with each other.
More items work
I'm sure someone has a list of all the things.
Should i grab dead cat or not
>Should i grab dead cat or not
Depends how much health you have and how close you are to becoming guppy. Taking it reduces back to 1 red heart (but you'll keep your spirit/dark hearts.
Its better in basically every way
We don't know everything yet, no one does
Even the popular youtubers and streamers stayed off the per-release/review copies so there is nothing out there past first hand experience
I think i have less than 80 hours in boi, not sure because i pirated it.
I think its a bit easier knowing what some of the things do and the mechanics of the game.
I'm trying to decide if I want to grab it and win, or grab another devil room sacrifice and unlock azazel. I think i've already done two, and I have the dead goat.
I've also got guppie's head.
this is kind of a hard decision
>fight through entire boss rush just for this
Also Ludovico technique is super OP
Only 50 hours in Flash. Rebirth is a lot easier but also a lot more fair. There are less unavoidable damage rooms and damage upgrades seem a lot more common, so those shitty base damage runs don't happen.
Also having a respectable framerate and analogue movement makes dodging easier. In Flash I'd get hit by Greed half the time even though his shot is really simple, it was just too fast to avoid when you're jerking around at 15fps using WASD for movement. If I get hit by it in Rebirth, I know I fucked up.
Holy fuck, the beans challenge is fucking me hard. Made it to mom but it's hard as hell to try killing her with just bombs and farts. Anyone know if Ipecac, Monstro's Lung, or Chocolate Milk show up in boss rooms? I figure those might override the blindfold.
Why didn't I listen?
>Don't have cathedral unlocked
>decide to go to scheol
>get down there
>not that strong, get to satan fight
>get him to like 10% hp
>he hits me down to 1 heart
>curse teleports me out
>find nearest mob and rage quit on it
>first run of the game
>getting used to new feel
>still getting the timing on the spider lasers (hit box seems to remain longer compared to original BoI)
>managed to beat Mom with combo of generic tears up and a last second Pentagram Damage Buff
>go into random room
>tons o weird effects
>randomly changes, the most annoying is some effect that teleports me to random rooms if I'm hit
>manage to get 3 Cat items
>destroy Mom's heart without taking any damage
Seems just like old BoI. lel
Is that the one you need guppy for? I want to try finishing all the challenges I can before I go back to normal runs.
its almost like it was designed around a specific atmosphere
god people who bitched about the soundtrack were retarded but I'm glad this seems to be the general consensus with haters.
>lots of shitty/mediocre items
>find that super reroll all your items room
>lets do it.jpg
>turn into a flying chocolate milk quad shot area effect parasite shooting motherfucker
>one shoot everything up to isaac
>moms heart is bullet hell
WELP, this game just went from 10/10 to 3/10. Why do developers think bullet hell is a good idea? Fucking lazy shit fuck damn bitch cuntfuckers and their goddamn pixel dodging memorization bullshit garbage. Fuck that.
Protip: Don't use the D10 against Gemini.
Unless you want to be awesome.
But the original wasn't. And that's what made it good. Even bullet spammy bosses like Isaac/BB was controllable and to some extent avoidable. This is just bullshit.
Because bullet hell is stupid and lazy.
>Everything is Terrible!
Fuck, I forgot this happens. Better prepare my ass to get kicked
>mfw I killed Satan before killing Mom
>had chocolate milk + max damage + max fire rate
>just had to keep hitting the attack button and satan died in around 10 seconds
The trick is to stay the fuck away from him and snipe him, while dodging his attacks like you would super greed or famine, just slight movements away from the center of his attack.
Pretty much just Greed/Super Greed tactics.
Dingle confirmed for hardest Basement boss though.
Anyone know how to open these doors?
they seem to be open randomly.
Or is it like the ones in boi where you had to be at one heart?
even if bullet hell is shit as fuck sub-genre, ONE boss is not enough reason to get that mad.
also bullet hell tend to be easier than other shooting stuff because usually everything is slower giving you time to think, unless you are mentally retarded, it should be easier.
Isaac and Blue Baby were gear tests. If you had the HP+Damage to weather the fight, then you won. If you didn't, you lost. Mom's Heart was just a pushover.
Now those bosses are fair but challenging. They have crazy attack patterns, but with timing and practice you have a much higher chance of coming out unscathed than you did in BoI, where the hit boxes and projectiles were all fucked up and impossible to read.
So can we all agree the Solar System challenge is bullshit?
You can't control bullet hell and avoiding it is more about pixel dodging and stupid memorization than reflexes and skill.
Bullet hell has always sucked and it was an excuse for shooter games to be lazy fucks about "difficulty" because they didn't know how to make a shooter actually difficult so "fuck it, we'll fill the screen with shit and make it all about autistic pixel dodging and memorization than skill which I can't figure out how to make a game have."
I've beaten Isaac and BB with nearly nothing and low health. It's skill. I had tons of shit against Mom's Heart and I got worn down because of fucking stupid pixel dodging bullet hell hitting me EVERY GODDAMN TIME.
>pixel dodging and memorization
I fucking went mad with power /v/
>Then I got Tiny Planet.
>Then I got Tammy's Head and started one-shotting bosses.
>got into the Boss Gauntlet Room after one-shotting Mom.
>had the option to pick between Quad-shot, $3, Tiny Mush, some shitty other item
>fucking annihilate every boss in one hit from basic tears attack
Also Dark Bum is the best item in the game hands down for Azazel.
Here's the seed for the run: LCXH ZODN
the O might a 0
Should have known not to complain to /v/, the kings of videogame autism that love bullet hell shooters because it's more about being a fucking perfectionist autistic high functioning retard than skill.
1st floor and I've gotten Goat's Head and Sagittarius.
Inb4 I turn into a goat.
Wait, I thought Tammy's Head sucked
Because it's a shitty game
Yea but it's also faster, and if you have anti-grav you're pretty much guaranteed to get hit.
>2 48 hour energy pills
>2 batterys per pill
>already had a guppy head charge
I've got like 40 flies now or some shit.
>playing Azazel for EZ mode
>a big hole opens up behind mom
>what could possibly go wrong.jpg
>out of the 4 items I pick the one I don't recognize (it resembles a tear shaped atom)
>it creates a vortex that delays your shot which is actually really cripping for brimstone
>mfw boss rush
I barely survived thanks to my super gimped shot. This is immediately after when I had almost max health of soul and black hearts
>second run so far
>third item I find is Bible
>kill Mom and Moms heart easy
I probably should have fought the new Mom's Heart to see how tough it is but I couldn't resist that 1HKO
Try the Slow Roll challenge run with Tammy's head. 8 giant piercing Polyphemus shots slowly ambling around the screen. I one shot mom with it. Pretty much any of the challenge runs are broken by Tammy's Head.
How many flies follow you through rooms now? You could summon as many as you wanted but only 5 would follow you.
I did get some item that turns all enemies when you kill them into attack spiders which turns out to be a LOT of them.
Tammy's head is ridiculous now that it uses your shots instead of a standard tear.
I unlocked Krampus and now I think Isaac's soul is on fire somewhere from the look of his eyes.
The Dark Matter item is really neat actually. I didn't think Fear would be that useful but it turns out it is as a shot status effect.
Knights are pissy babby shit now but I think their AI was also changed to be less fucking awful now.
>decide to do a challenge
>choose slow roll
>start out already OP as shit
>get guppies head with a super shot that already pierces and destroys rooms and bosses in 1 hit
>breeze though the "challenge"
>kill mom in 2 seconds
>boss rush room opens
>1 shot everything in there too
I think Edmund missed the challenge part of that one.
I just died to mom with x10 lives. Although I had maxed out blue hearts and at the end only had a single red one. I got really fucking close too but accidentally walked into her fucking eye
>implying it's hard to do things damage free with certain broken items
Dingle became easier when I learned his pattern.
When he smiled he'll do a triple shot. When he whistles he'll summon little shits and then do a triple shot.
When he makes a grumpy face he'll charge you. Just start moving around and it's pretty easy to avoid assuming you aren't near a wall, at which point you're asking for it.
Just do the fight more
You learn the game the more you play. Stop being a casual bitch just because you died a few times.
the MH and Issac fight are far more interesting now, just adapt already your holding yourself back for no good reason.
>giant gaps between shots
>slowly moving pattern
yep that's a bullet hell, we totally 2hu
It's the same as binding of isaac 1. Some of the challenges are just easy mode to mess around, and some of them are really annoying and hard. I found the orbiters challenge pretty difficult.
>First treasure room
this is all I ever wanted
I uncovered a trapdoor by complete chance when clearing some rocks.
Should I descend?
>killing all three of Satan's forms with a total of eight shots
And some of you guys are getting even better builds.
>The Bloat and Mask of Infamy paired together in the boss rush room
WHY IS THIS ALLOWED
>music is packed in a file so you can't even replace it with your own
it's kind of annoying
the only truly bad music was in the womb though, i just turn off my speakers for that
Both are equally good. I couldn't imagine the original OST in the new aesthetic and tone of this game and vice-versa. I wish you soundtrack faggots would fuck off, this shit is posted in every single Isaac thread ever and all it does is derail it.
Sometimes after you kill Mom a hole gets blown in the wall, you can walk through it and there will be 4 items, you can choose one, once you pick one up it spawns a boss rush mode.
I think you have to kill mom quickly though.
It might help if you can find a goat head so the devil room is guaranteed to spawn. Or use the shovel in womb 2. I made it into hell literally the 3rd time I beat the game (mom, then moms heart, then hell)