Am I allowed to ask what happened to the whole "conspiracy." That happened a month back. Like. The whole fact that Gnoji was lieing about everything. And even though all these news sites, though shit, jumped on the bandwagon to actually defend her. I mean, would it have all be different if she denied the fact that it all happened, rather than run from it? Rather than milking out on all that what happened. I'm not doing a call to arms, mods. I just want to know what happened. I feel I can get the straightest story here, rather than on various other news sites that I'm unsure of trusting due to bias.
Erm, pic kinda related, I guess.
>People looked into his story and confirmed 3 of the 5 guys.
>Those guys were all connected to the industry and either gave she who shall not be named, positive, press, awards, or influence over the media.
>There was a massive media blackout and attempt to censor the story on sites like Reddit and 4chan (the main reason why they teamed up)
>More digging found an e-mail group called Games Journo Pros where video game journalists conspired and decided what stories to and not to cover.
>It was also confirmed they blacklisted people from the site
He never said it was a hoax, in fact, she who shall not be named actually had a court gag order placed on him to keep him from talking.
Plus there's evidence showing there is a much larger conspiracy and corruption going on.
>Because it was about corruption, the journalists and their allies quickly tried to make it about sexism and feminism
>There have been false flags and highly questionable threads made against them which they claim were made by people wanting to end corruption
>This is backed up by the fact that so far every threat has been found to have been done by a third party, or the FBI has said the threat wasn't creditable.
>Instead of engaging them head on, the anti-corruption groups are contacting advertisers telling them to cut ties with the sites.
>The biggest blow was Intel pulling out of gamer sutra
>Gawker (parent company of kotaku) lost their shit and called any advertiser who pulled their money from sites 'craven idiots'
Fuck man. For a guy who wants to go into marketing for this shit, I want to just take a stance of "Shut up and play video games." But now i feel I cant, and I need to choose a side.
The current industry is shit and just about everyone hates it except for the journalists who profit off it. But due to the public influence they have on opinion, developers just can't come out and say they support anti-corruption since they'd be branded as sexist and their games would reviewed more harshly.
if you need to choose a side, make up your own mind after looking up all the facts. The only problem is both sides want you to think the central core of the debate is on something different. corruption vs sexism.
Not even 4chan is immune to this. Moot has ties to a girl who runs a PR firm for Gawker and is banning all discussion on this on sight for weeks too.
I didn't care much about watergate, until EVERYTHING about it started getting shut down everywhere, even here on 4chan
in any case it's still forbidden to discuss that here, I suggest you go to another place to talk about it, though 4+4 chan is the only place I know you can talk about it and not get banned/whatever
I refuse to go there because a lot of people who still post here are still anti-corruption and every board is shitting on moot for the decision.
That only place is just 7chan 2.0 and will be irrelevant after this all ends
>I refuse to go there because a lot of people who still post here are still anti-corruption and every board is shitting on moot for the decision.
just watch how much shit you'll get here for trying to bring this into attention
>That only place is just 7chan 2.0 and will be irrelevant after this all ends
as if I wanted to promote it at all
I'm just providing means for discussing the problem. I have 0 loyalty to brands, websites, and whatnot. I do however, want to see the current gaming media to stop existing as it is, completely corrupt and purely an advertising machine.
And I recommend you don't limit yourself to 4chan (or any other website) for this. People must know the truth, as in, fucking facts, not distortions. Manfred von Karma would be proud of these so called 'SJWs'
if going for actual equality (not this ridiculous twisted equality SJWs aim for) is being a mysoginist, you can call me that till I die
I'll put it this way.
>Do you like Anita and what she does?
>Do you like Kotaku and their brand of journalism?
>Do you like to shout down opposing viewpoints?
>Are you pro censorship?
>Do you some form of
If you said no to a majority of those things, you'll probably fit on the misogynist side.
We're currently being 'occupied' by SJWer shitposters. However I've posted on /pol/ as a leftist, the SJWers don't hold a candle to them in arguments and the best they can do is group shame.
I know I should go to other sites, but it's a matter of pride. 4chan is a shithole, but it's my shithole. And you got to know where to make a stand.
>I know I should go to other sites, but it's a matter of pride. 4chan is a shithole, but it's my shithole. And you got to know where to make a stand.
That's like refusing to be idort because of brand loyalty.
Tip: exchanging useful and important information with other websites is easy, free and takes little to no time. You don't need to start browsing other websites regularly for weeks to be able to find a section dedicated to this issue (or any other for that matter), everything is piss easy nowadays. And once we 'win', everybody can go back to our regular schedules. Though 'winning' would mean that SJWs and retarded women have finally shut up, and that'll never fucking happen
and you also call the neighbours and tell them about Tyrone's vile schemes, and they look out the window and tell you how many stones he's carrying to try breaking your windows
But what happened was Tryone took over your house and invited all his buddies, you either get your friends to fight to kick them out. Or run like a scared to pussy to your friend's place to bitch about tryone as he trashes your house.
I'm not the cut and run type when it comes to something that actually matters. You can flee, but don't expect me to join you.
There are no continues or reset button for this game.
It's sad that there were that many angry tumblrettes in the world that they were able to continually false flag to the point where parody article like that could even exist.
That's the problem with "anonymous" movements. Anyone can use any amount of numbers they have to paint a picture of you so far removed from reality that no one will take you seriously.
GG was an eventual causility as a natural response to the unopposed power general SJW have on the populous. Think about it:
Both bodies do or have:
-focus on miniscule issues versus the larger global issue
-Lack any actual organization
-Are being exploited for profit
To be a member of either of these factions is pointless now. The war has started and will continue for a while. Unless there is a sizable factor in either on of the parties or if they break from the assets listed about them, this war will be a standstill
LMAO! A movement that tries to drive outlets of opposing opinions into financial ruin by pressuring their business partners into abandoning cooperation can't pull "muh false flagging."
And a movement that creates and continues corruption by accusing anyone who questions it of sexism, misogyny, pedophilia, etc. can't really cry about false flagging, especially when they've been doing it since the whole scandal broke.
>focus on miniscule issues versus the larger global issue
How can we solve ANYTHING if we can't make journos in the hobby we love make the goddamn thing they supposed be doing?
There is no sex or class war.
There is information war.
Brownshirting is a whole other issue from financial sabotage, which is why that article is great. It's from the perspective of an outlet that exists to present facts and opinions, and its view is that gamergate is dangerous and will try to censor dissent via ruining everyone who gives them bad press.
>a movement that, after trying to rationally discuss with the opposition just to be latter portrayed by that opposition as misogynists, violent sockpuppets, had to end up using the last resource a consumer can pull off to be heard: the boicott
There. Fixed just for you.
It didn't matter what Zoe Quin said. There was always going to be a witch hunt. People still lap up any conspiracy theory they find and use it as concrete evidence to act like a shit.
It's a little sad that you feel like you can get the news here. It's only a good place if you really want to satisfy a confirmation bias.
Except that the "other side" is just as guilty of doing this, and has been doing it for quite a bit longer, hence the whole sordid "corruption in journalism" mess.
Apparently even game devs aren't immune from this.
>gamergate is dangerous
For who? For those who paint GG as a bunch of misogynerds virgin pedophiles, like the Gawker article said yesterday?
Seems like a fine case of "talk shit, get hit".
Gamergate is not fucking dissent.
No one is forcing anything on gamergate. If it was about an actualy boycott, where people would stop looking at sites instead of sneaking in through archives and snapshots, they could complain.
Gamergaters have plenty of choices on where to go for game reviews, with even more that have sprung up now (and are unsurprisingly shitty). The fact that they're contacting advertisers of sites they don't like and trying to hurt profit from consumers that actually VISIT AND LIKE the site make it pretty clear that it's not about dissent, its about vindictiveness.
A woman is not equal to a man in terms of societal standing. This is a generalized statement but one that rings home to many in workplaces that include labor, managerial positions, or positions of power in general
This has nothing to do with video games.
Their issues lie in global societies, not the benality of video games.
To that effect, the niche genre of videgame journalism is undershadowing a much larger issue
Corruption in all levels in journalism exist, and takes steps when one of the smaller, more insignificant branches has an issue.
This movement will never go anywhere unless you stop cutting off heads of hydras. Hit the body. Cut off its legs. Stab it in its heart until its dead.
No matter how many times you repeat it, 2+2 does not = 5.
People were here for the original posts....we remember exactly what it was about. "LOL LOOK AT THIS WHORE!!!" was basically what it was all about. If it had been about anything but attacking a female soft target, the threads would have focused on the guys that actually (allegedly) abused their positions.
But they were not, they were all about ZQ.
You can pretend that reality is different, but you can't actually change it.
Any of the comments from gamergaters saying "We don't care about dialogue, we just want to watch them burn now".
The sustained attempt to remove advertisers from sites that have opinions gamergaters don't like.
I don't know man, did you just start following this debacle?
Its not censorship, but the GG tactics and how closely they mimic SJW.SJW had a standing prior to gamergate and is able to use its power to wipe any unseenly tactics under the rug.
This "movement" needed to take as much precaution as possible, but didn't. You had dissentors that threatened the lives of SJW. You never established a power structure and continued to be disorganized. You have no movement, just a bunch of 20 somethings bickering on twitter. You had something before with the boycotts, but now you just have the blind leading the blind
God, you are so fucking retarded. When a press outlet is not allowed to express certain opinions without fearing sabotage, their press freedom is inhibited. This is not simply a matter of drawing attention to misconduct or misrepresenting a group, but foregoing public pressure and directly attacking the press entity. Since more than one person seems to arduously defend this kind of behavior in this thread, I have to assume that yours isn't a minority opinion in the movement.
Because journos shielded themselves behind the always-successful shield of muh soggy knees.
It's almost like a caricature, where people congregate to say "hey, you're corrupt", journos say "no, you're a misogynist" and then everyone else, instead of saying "what the fuck does that has to do with you being corrupt", say "yeah, you're all a bunch of misogynerds".
It's almost surreal.
SJWs have never done anything like this.
SJW vocally complain, I don't see how you can confuse that with angry emails to advertisers of sites you don't even read, trying to get them to shut down.
>The sustained attempt to remove advertisers from sites that have opinions gamergaters don't like.
This is somehow less corrupt than using your "journalistic" outlets to paint your opposition as "misogynerds" and pedophiles? Not to mention that ignoring that, you're still left with the matter of positive press coming from the exploitation of personal relationships. I think this is the crux of the whole "ethics" argument.
I don't think it's noteworthy. Again, what on earth makes you think I do?
This is the perfect example of gamergate.
They have no ideological goals, they have no stated objectives. They're just a bunch of angsty people that want to lash out at something, and SJW's happened to be a good scapegoat.
>Am I allowed to ask what happened to the whole "conspiracy."
It's banned across all of 4chan because official word is it "got too big". I'm shocked this thread is still up.
Just go to infinity chan's gg board to learn EVERYTHING. Draw your own conclusions.
>we remember exactly what it was about
Yeah, it was about a whore who slept with 5 guys, one of them being Nathan Grayson.
And from that point everyone started following the bread trails until finding what we know now.
LW was just the spark that ignited the hatred we all felt for gaming journalism since WAAAAAY BEFORE she appeared. And that was her purpose, nothing more, nothing less.
You asked where you should get your news about the Zoe Quin thing after I pointed out you would only find confirmation bias here.
That was my first reply in this chain.
Also, you seem to be under the impression that these journalistic outlets are calling you names. Lets ignore the discussion of whether or not they're actually doing that. How is shutting them down for calling you names a measured response?
Also, everything you're holding up as proof about ZQ is a pretty clear conspiracy theory.
You can't talk about things going on in vidya here. We're under martial law until GG goes away.
>How do you know he's gamergate?
>He said we're winning and gawkers bleeding money
>You're claiming you're a part of my movement but I don't like you therefore I'll call you a false flag.
That doesn't make any sense. What does them crying "Mysoginy!" have to do with that?
If you want to stop clickbaiting gaming journalism you need to go and push for laws that actually make it illegal. Otherwise there's just going to be another company that will focus on clickbaiting once the major ones die from gg's efforts. It's also one of the reasons why so few people take gg seriously: To them it looks like a bunch of angry gamers that don't like gawker media articles.
>God, you are so fucking retarded
What a compelling argument.
>When a press outlet is not allowed to express certain opinions without fearing sabotage, their press freedom is inhibited
You mean... there might be consequences for what I write and say? Holy gee! I never thought about that in my life back in San Francisco!
Aout the rest of the post, my point stand still: talk shit, get hit.
I'm not under the impression that anyone is calling me names. I'm not a part of GamerGate.
Name-calling aside, that doesn't seem to be the issue here. Rather, it seems that the issue is accusations of journalistic corruption being deflected with a "you're a sexist!" shield.
Also, what makes you think the ZQ stuff is a conspiracy theory, rather than an actual one?
Because mysoginy can be vastly found in almost anything. For example: "This cup is mysoginistic because its too heavy. I am a woman and I shouldn't have to have the muscle strength of an average man to lift this cup."
Its so easy to throw it up. It's like telling someone they're "projecting". There is very little to counter that than outright denial.
He asked about GamerGate, not about LW's personal life.
But you almost deflected the question! Keep at it and you might write for Gawker in the future... if it still exists, that is.
It's an argument about ethics in game journalism vs female hatred in games and the games industry,
Add a load of shitheads to both sides, combined with the fact both sides can't aven agree on an issue to argue about and the whole thing is a pointless storm of stupidity and hate.
>You mean... there might be consequences for what I write and say?
There's a difference between getting negative attention or losing readers and someone sabotaging your company by directly pressuring sponsors.
You know, a while ago a German newspaper printed a poem critical of Israel by a nobel prize laureate for literature. The backlash was huge, and a lot of Israelis urged to censor it and pushed to declare the writer a persona non grata. Political leaders all over the world told Israel to calm their fucking tits, because TRYING TO RUIN SOMEONE FOR CRITICIZING YOU IS A CHILDISH AND STUPID OVERREACTION!
>If you want to stop clickbaiting gaming journalism you need to go and push for laws that actually make it illegal
That's not gonna happen. People have enough freedom of speech to keep doing this.
This. Everyone is open to criticism. People do not have the right to act childish or irrational because they are being criticized IMO. SJWs or Israeli's are not immune same as GGs or Palestinians.
>there seems to be some fairly compelling evidence of corruption in your journalistic circles, what say you?
>YOU"RE JUST FUCKING MAD THAT WE'RE CRITICIZING YOU, PISSBABY!
i really wish everybody would just stop talking and giving these people attention.
yeah i know ignoring something doesn't make it go away bit i really couldn't care less or want to hear about what they are doing any more. just go play some games.
Half of the fights stemming from tumblr or online boards are because people dont want to handle criticism in a rational way. Anonymity affords people to act like... assholes. But no serious discussion can be had when people cannot be accountable for what they say. Why do you think /vg/ exists?
Except we're not talking about a Nobel prize winner doing a poem here. We're talking about persons who're trying to evade a dishonest action they made by being even more dishonest and faking shit, slandering their consumers and the public in general.
As a consumer, what you have to do to not be step in the face by the large corporations? You attack their wallets.
i dont know what you are trying to imply here.
I think GG is in the right and its for a good cause but im just tired of having to see these shitty journalists articles and hear all this drama every time i open /v/
A small group of anons picked out an article that was found on /r9k/ and used it as the foundation for their crusade against a single corrupt journalist. They garnered support by posting threads in /pol/, /v/ and sometimes on /co/. For roughly ten days there was a call to arms, each thread beginning with obvious "I'm out of the loop, fill me in" styles of posting. Inflammatory videos were also common, spreading misinformation and gossip(see: IA).
Moot eventually had to put his foot down after it was apparent that someone was using 4chan as their own personal army. There was a large blowout from this, many anons claiming that moot was literally in bed with this woman and that there was a gigantic conspiracy taking place. These same anons kept trying to spread the political clickbait by making info-graphics, hijacking threads and generally trying to make the same threads without explicitly discussing the topic. They were very similar to this thread.
The 'movement' or whatever they call it is now in a state of decline. People are getting tired of talking about it, and a little bit of critical thinking will tell you that most of this shit won't matter in a few months. Corruption in vidya journalism has been a thing for literally a decade, and it will continue to exist for as long as AAA gaming exists. Shitposting won't change that.
There is a huge number of people in GG who mainly use the movement to attack something they hate. Ethics to them are a buzzword or they don't care about them at all. They just want to see essjaydubyas suffer. If this were actually about ethics, and if the movement weren't retarded, this would have happend:
>GG opts to bring attention to corruption by garnering momentum on blogs and social media
>GG let's articulate people do the talking and get in touch with different media outlets
>the parties involved in the alllegations of corruption will have to respond and react to them by declaring what they are going to do to change their conduct or get bad reactions from readers and the press
The problem is that you can't question them, they have a bulletproof sexism shield. You question what they're doing, and you're suddenly a misogynist or a pedophile, possibly both, and the labels are going to stick to you like glue.
Just ask any GamerGater. ;^)
>But no serious discussion can be had when people cannot be accountable for what they say
Au contraire, mon amie. We discuss based on the arguments exposed, rather than the identification of an individual.
That's the beauty of anonimity, where your words are the only factor to take into consideration in an argument.
I hate having to explain this shit.
When these sites give shit reviews because of idelogical bullshit their metactitic rating suffers
For smaller devs that is very bad, because their bonuses are dependent on said metacritic rating
Most of the time these bonuses are the difference between life and death for the dev. If this goes unchecked then it'll just lead to devs shoehorning social justice bullshit to appease the retards. And if you agree with that then fucking hell I don't know what to say
>But no serious discussion can be had when people cannot be accountable for what they say
When intelligent people are involved in an anonymous discussion, it's going to be much more fruitful than any real life public discussion because no one is scared of making arguments that will make you lose credit. There is a lot more namecalling, and people will rarely if ever concede that you are right about anything, but the things you read stick with you. You won't change your mind immediately after, but that is not the point of debate. You might revisit the discussion in a week and come to the conclusion that you were wrong about a lot of things.
>The 'movement' or whatever they call it is now in a state of declin
I love how people are saying this since day one, and they always end up like the end of the world prophecies.
These arguments are DERIVED from identified individuals. Such as new outlets, blogs, press releases ect. You can have free and open discussions without the fear of societal bias with anonymity, but good luck orchestating things on a grander scale.
Thats the problem with anonymous userbases with the twinge of social activism; they're all talk until they're asked to stand for something without a mask on.
Eight out of ten times people say that I was right about everything and they walk away embarrassed if I have a debate with them. 4chan is really frustrating in this regard, but it helps your rhetorical skills.
Yeah, totally not him.
by the way, I made a picture of Mohammed licking his own penis and the police haven't got to my head to behead me yet.
Guess it must be because I'm a kiddo, amirite?
I'm not saying that it's right that that is my intention when I debate someone, but that is what happens.
Debates are often treated as contests, but that is ridiculous. It's not like having better rhetorical skills makes you right, and people will not agree on who is the winner, anyway. There are no winners. There can't be winners. The idea is stupid, detrimental, pointless, and leads to intellectual incest.
>I hate having to explain this shit.
You're breathing life into this very same system by paying attention to videogame journalism. You would do better to combat this very same problem by encouraging others to spread good games by word of mouth instead of crucifying a single woman. Bad publicity is still publicity.
Yeah, I'm not him, though. You're just embarrassed that he completely blew you the fuck out. I just thought pointing out your sad attempt at damage control was funny.
Got another le ebin meemay pic for that? ;^)
I just explained exactly why this is bigger than you or me. It doesn't matter how many people don't pay attention, the system will still break devs because they don't toe the line
Also, you do realize that with the games I'm talking about the sales go to the publishers not the devs? So no matter how much you spread the word, they'll still get nothing and get shafted. All because of the journos
You're missing the point. The reasoning presented in >>269073968 suggests that it's the responsibility of the threatened when someone who uses threats follows through with those threats. It doesn't matter whether it's the threat of violence or financial sabotage, it's the responsibility of the person who carries out that threat if and when they do.
Literally all of you idiots pretending this was a legitimate cause only got so "politically active" because this involved a woman who cheated on someone who happened to be from a movement a few individuals have convinced you to hate (SJW's).
You never spoke up or gave any serious shits when it was people provably taking bribes and ad money. You just let yourselves get needlessly triggered by how much cuckold fantasies hurt your feelings, and you used this whole fuck-job as an excuse to drive women out of gaming.
The last straw was that a woman was doing something men had been doing for decades. Not only had she "stolen" your hobby, she had stolen "fucking around for an advantage in the industry".
You're a bunch of dumb faggots pretending you were doing something important. Don't imagine yourselves to actual be people who care about gaming.
>It doesn't matter how many people don't pay attention
What if it was everyone?
That post looks pretty passive aggresive, but what I can get from it is that if you post an opinion wherever, you must stand with the consequences that opinion might carry.
From you depends what kind of reaction that opinion will have. For example, if you post "I hate niggers" in Facebook while having a bunch of hood friends, or following another... er, "argument" from here, if you post a Mohammed picture where he's licking his penis and you live in Saudi Arabia, you are inciting a reaction on the people that is receiving your message.
In this case, Gawker media totally wanted a reaction from gamers. And they're getting a response.
Speaking from experience, GamerGate is a bit like Scottish Independence.
>Both sides think they are objectively right
>Both accuse the other side of using scare tactics, false points, e.t.c.
>Both right off the other as being complete dickheads, irredeemable beyond all reason
>One side is mainly liberal, the other conservative
>Both think they know what's best and decide to speak for everyone
>The side with the silent majority that will only do anything when push comes to shove will win in the end,
that being GG of course.
>We'll all move on, after empty promises are given but never, ever acted upon
I love how people bounce between crippling pessimism and retarded optimism depending on what they're talking about
So instead of emails and trying to nail them for actually illegal shit your plan is for absolutely everyone to ignore them.
Woo. You get right on that. Just don't be surprised when people go with what actually works
>I love how people bounce between crippling pessimism and retarded optimism depending on what they're talking about
That was my first post in this thread though..
Fine. Let me call you out on your lack of ethics.
You don't give a shit about morality or ethics or videogames until someone you dislike is doing something. You sit around rubbing your greasy dick apathetically until enough dipshits gather around to tell you how much you should hate some nigger or some cunt when the people you actually should have hated was all the other people who came before them to established that that behavior was the norm.
Notice that we didn't hear any stories about Nathan Grayson getting death-threats, despite the fact that he is the more objectionable scum-bag in the GG conspiracy; of course someone was willing to fuck for good press. That's literally their job. And yet it's HIS job to not let that sort of thing happen.
You're a pathetic little shit pretending you cared.
It was a fad, Gamer Gate fags scared off 90% of the regulars that came and left idiots from twitter and reddit here to make /v/ into the bag of shit it is now.
Out of curiosity, do you actually believe there's a problem with ethics in journalism? I don't care about harassment or what you think about anything or anyone else, I want to know what you think
We fuck with our dollars or with "exclusive press coverage". You faggots don't even remember how Kojima and Konami were refusing to give anyone a review copy of Metal Gear Solid 4 (a piece of shit game) if they didn't post an insanely positive and controlled review of it early.
He basically offered them a snaggle-toothed blowjob in the form of an ACTUAL game that mattered, to hundreds of sites. Yet you faggots sure forgot that shit the moment an ugly cunt gave her sloppy concave hole to five guys.
Fake activists using 4chan as a personal army are sickening.
Different anon here, but yes, there's a very clear problem with ethics in vidya journalism, most noticeably the fact that they use the terms 'journalism' and 'journalist' to describe marketing and marketers.
I think u mena
> Gamer Gate fags were 90% of the regulars that came and now that they're gone there's only idiots from twitter and reddit here to make /v/ into the bag of shit it is now.
first and foremost, I'm not a big part of the movement, I didn't research stuff, I just checked sources before reading and watching videos about the subject
that out of the way, do you honestly believe that the GGfags not being able or wanting to do GG as it 100% should be (as in, in a flawed way) is worse than them not doing it at all?
do you believe the corrupt journo should get away scott free?
if not, why don't you just sit back and watch the GGfags bring truth out from the corrupt journalism?
if you do, and you're calling shit out on not being 100% completely perfectly moral, then tell me, are you 100% completely perfectly moral? of course not, because you're in favor of the corruption
But you are the other retard, mon amie.
Here >>269076253 we see that "kiddo" is one of your triggers, and in >>269077367 we see that calling it "passive aggressive" is how you cope.
Gamer Gate will die down, its just some petty internet crusade, fucking gross how faggots kinda ruined /v/ over such a NOTHING controversy.
And who's fault is that?
Also I think the key difference is that it started with indie corruption. Everyone knows AAA is bullshit but now we've got allegations that the indie scene is corrupt.
And I know for sure who's fault is that
lol at Gawker getting a taste of it's own medicine.
Journalism doesn't matter anymore, and this certainly wasn't about journalistic integrity.
Reviewers have been a joke since everyone started noticing how often sites (or fuck, magazines) had giant full-site integrated ads for piece of shit games in the same fucking space as "amazing interview with the head of fag-game! EXCLUSIVE!"
This didn't expose a lick of corruption, and assholes at Kotaku of all fucking places (my most hated site in gaming) were right when they stated shit about Zoe fucking an ugly dipshit who wrote one article about her; that shit didn't prove a fucking thing about "journalism", it just proved something about what happens when a bunch of stupid little shits spend months harassing some ugly bitch. Spoiler: She'll end up getting a lot of sympathy because it's pretty shitty to hear about a bit-player doing small scale ethical violations getting hundreds of threats a day.
If you cared about gaming and its greater relevance, you'd -stop giving a fucking shit- about reviews. Stop legitimizing such piece of shit leeching little industries by imagining that they matter enough to have ethics.
At least you didn't deny the samefag. That's a start.
Sorry for triggering you, though.
People have always hated these journalists and have always talked shit to them. Now though it's a "movement". It has a face, one that people can point at to use as more fodder for shit-flinging. Thanks guys.
Has anything even changed? Pulling an ad or two means nothing in the long run as long as the sites you despise are still as "strong" as ever.
>and whose fault is that
It's not fucking Zoe Quinns or women's or SJW's.
Surprise; it's your fault for making review sites so important within gaming culture that you've forgotten they're just fucking magazine ads in website form.
> an ugly dipshit who wrote one article about her; that shit didn't prove a fucking thing about "journalism", i
Except the dipshit she fucked being a journalist writting advertisement for LW DOES say a lot about journalism.
>"depression quest is a game!"
Are you homosex or female?
That thing she made isn't a game, and its free.
Are there people who seriously think covering their ears and sitting fetal will make a problem stop?
allow me to explain everything
>Journalism doesn't matter anymore
Nigger are you fucking kidding me? Tons of people rely on reviews. Hell, everytime a review for a big game comes out it's fucking plastered all over /v/.
The reaction you can expect when you release content says a lot about the context in which it's released. In the case of gawker, expecting to be financially sabotaged when accusing elements of gamergate of condoning misogyny kind of proves their point.
Just as a heads up, this is the current SJW nonsensical smear tactic.
Their asses are bleeding and they need to vent their rage.
So, what you're implying is that it's the developers that make video games are at fault here, because if they didn't make games, then we wouldn't even have video game journalism in the first place.
You're affirming what we've known for years you dingus. This self regulating system of bullshit will continue to exist so long as you give it a reason to exist. Ignoring it is the easiest way to discourage it.
I don't understand this line of thinking. Wikileaks has been pushing it as well. I don't think most of gamergate wants to save the world and topple the highest echelons of power. I don't think they CAN, for that matter. The amount of legal bullshit necessary is absurd, and history of uncovering severe corruption at the top and taking the men and women responsible to task has proven to either end in amazing failure or succeed, only to have corruption show up again not many years later.
Of course, that can happen just as well with the games industry without a push for "actual justice" but at least if there's a significant controversy that lasts long enough we can always point back to it as a precedent as to why journalists, bullying SJWs, and "devs" should change their tactics. A kind of "don't do this shit, it helps nobody on a practical level (money loss, audience loss, image loss)".
>"Review sites don't matter!"
>Every time you see a commercial on TV or an ad for a game on a website, it has shit like "10/10 - IGN" plasted on it for credibility
>"It's just harassment!"
>the most active members of GG don't even target Zoe anymore, they target advertisers of sites like Kotaku and Destructoid
>"If you ignore it, it will go away!"
>this has been true of absolutely nothing throughout history, least of all a network of integrity-deprived assholes trying to control a venue of mass media
>bring truth out of journalists
Truth about what? That an ugly boring man will fuck an ugly fucked up woman and then write about his fuck friend glowingly -one time-, still clearly emanating nasty fuck?
What greater truth did this woman provide about the industry?
This was just a fucking excuse to talk about how much you all hate "gamer grrllls". I was in the first thread where the cuckolded boyfriend (who I still empathize with and understand why he did what he did) posted shit about all of this.
All it proved was that Zoe was an asshole and someone who shouldn't be dated. It didn't prove corruption, nor did it invite the internet to go on a rampage against women who want to make games.
You faggots just tacked on that story after the fact as an excuse to have Chanology 2.0 so you could have an excuse to arm-chair protest nothing at all.
You're all worse than Zoe or Dorito's pope in terms of legitimizing shitty practices in gaming; you made sites like Kotaku of all fucking places, where "sponser ads" are hidden as normal news stories and where fat bitches complain about sex-standards in gaming one post above "hot cosplaying titties" posts, look good within the eyes of people not embittered in 4chan bullshit.
Fuck you dumb shits for ruining this hobby and board for probably the next decade while every single person who buys games is questioned as a sociopathic gender-phobic spaz.
>not pirating games or trying your buddy's copy first
>thinking journo's are important
>basically get paid by game devs to give good scores
>"NOW THAT A WOMEN IS INVOLVED GAMING SITES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT."
Really now, before GG NOBODY talked about any game site that wasn't "LOL look how slow kotaku is!" or "IGN has a shitty review!" but now that some random indie bitch slept with 5 un-important guys you all think gaming journalism needs to be "SAVED!" Please, if anyone wanted to "save" journalism they would make their own site, not just bitch about how corrupt the current ones are and doing nothing beyond complaining somewhere else.
And it's only getting worse.
I'm seriously arguing with someone who thinks gamergate's tactics won't work, but convincing everyone to ignore something will.
fucking genius. I'm saying it again. Don't be surprised when people go for what can actually do some damage
>It's your fault for getting so butt flustered about nothing.
>"WHAT, YOU MEAN IT'S GAME DEVELOPER's FAULTS!?"
Congratulations on your inability to read. You were a paragon of the GG movement, InternetAristocrate Jr.
>Corruption in vidya journalism has been a thing for literally a decade, and it will continue to exist for as long as AAA gaming exists. Shitposting won't change that.
Finally, someone gets it.
"Hey, we're all for ethics in games journalism" - "Okay, what are your demands?" - "journos should stop being shills and insulting gamers and having industry contacts!"
I don't think it needs to be saved. I think it's fine exactly the way it is.
I think the people who take it seriously are the ones who need to be saved. Or wiped out. Or ignored.
>Actually defending Gawker
I hope you don't do it for free. How's the taste of sucking a multi-million dollar corporate cock?
>What greater truth did this woman provide about the industry?
That journalists who write about games can be easily bought out
That Gawker affiliates don't do research and write based on what makes money
That the review system is basically a big circlejerk; you pay for a good review, you sell tons of copies, which next time lets you pay for a better review with more people, which sells you more copies...
Just a reminder that one of the leaders of the social fascists was caught red handed trying to false flag.
The dates are important because she wasn't known at all when the image was originally created.
Can you name any previous controversies where the indie scene was revealed to be that corrupt and incestuous?
You're grouping the AAA industry and the indie industry together. Again
>all these pessimist, lazy retards
Probably the same faggots who make "tfw no gf" threads.
>we went for what actual did damage
To one person, and then your own cause.
By getting advertisers to pull from "SJW sites", of which EVERYTHING has been labeled thanks to you faggots, your just making them less relevant.
All you stupid jews had to do was -not care about reviews by dipshit corrupt media outlets-. That's all you had to do. Instead, you cheered on people harassing 10% of the gaming population for not wanting to be insulted every time they mention they like games.
You made us look like dumb niggers, you dumb nigger.
Gawker is a joke and should fade into obscurity.
GG made Gawker look reasonable by comparison. You gave them MONTHS of free material to write about. You fags did the impossible.
More like damage control shills hired by Gawker. Remember they have admitted to come here and now that anons have targeted their sponsors they are more worried than ever.
And whose fault is that? Is it the people who just want to try a videogame that's fun or those that need to look up gamespot reviews to catch up on the latest videogame drama?
>GG made Gawker look reasonable by comparison
What an awesome shitpost, gold star.
I can't tell if you're a $10 shill or actually this retarded.
What problem in all of human history has been solved by ignoring it until "it went away?" For fuck's sake, this mindset is supposed to be discarded by age ten.
>if you stop paying attention to journalism, so will everyone else all of a sudden!
>Gamer Gate thread
>Hasn't been deleted immediately
>The PR shills and SJW flying monkeys are being told left and right by the truth
Hey Moot, maybe you should join the winning side and people MIGHT forgive you for being a giant faggot
>heh, all those people who think women are human-beings and think this whole fucking crusade against SJWs is retarded must not have any girlfriends. High five, InternetAristocrate and /pol/.
>would you let me suck your dick, e-celebrity who said something bigoted? Mmm.
You're adorable, anon-chan.
Pic related for what shills look like, follow the links.
Here is another link NOT PIC RELATED, but a 2nd shill.
See, its real.
Hey mod. Before you dox and post it along with my selfie on this thread, let me tell you this:
You are a sad person. You make me sad. Grief just takes over whenever I think about low-lives like you. Everytime I think that I've seen something truly pathetic, your surpass my expectations by being even more, pathetic. I hope you die alone in a hole muddy when nobody's looking. You have earned this.
K thanks bye.
They're not full pessimists. It's one thing to say nothing will change. It's quite another to claim that ignoring the problem will make it go away
>making them less relevant
I'm not really seeing the issue. Did you mean to say more relevant?
Also expecting everyone else to ignore something when you do is the height of unrealistic expectations.
But hey, if you don't like it you can always try to ignore me and will me out of existence
Why on Earth should people who aren't journalist adhere to the journalist code of ethics?
That said, I've been shocked to find people who aren't journalists tend to be more ethical than actual journalists. I'm not just talking about video game ones.
>GG made Gawker look reasonable by comparison.
Yeah right, by digging deeper and deeper the hole they are in. Only dumbfucks would actually trust the word of a corrupt media conglomerate that has had plenty of shady dealings, rallied internet lynch mobs, doxxed people, pulled sponsors from their enemies, asking favors to have people they don't like banned from reddit (like Julian Assange)...
All the shit they condemn they have done themselves. Pic related.
>Grief just takes over whenever I think about low-lives like you.
*tips fedora* Very well put, m'good sir.
If GamerGate is such a non issue why is it still going on after nearly three months?
>calling journos out on corruption is now ruining videogames
you're hilarious and a Zoey's advocate
Don't you have horse fucker pictures to post ms. shill?
You want to know what's freaky? SJWers have been targeting the horsefuckers, a demographic that was created as a direct result of their actions. That's fucked up
Oh look a SJW anti-gg bullying and shaming social anxiety and virgins.
What a surprise, it's almost as if social justice is just a way for idiots to feel morally superior while harassing people who think differently than them
The entirety of the GG movement. The fact that you've created a battle not against the media, but against SJWs. The fact that every single day, /v/ is now 30% posts accusing about 30 women working in the industry of "being cancerous" to gaming because they're releasing shitty games about feelings.
The fact that every fucking e-celebrity that used to just be talked about on the basis of their content is now being re-assessed on wether or not they agree that SJWs should be removed from gaming (even though the earliest games we gave a shit about, like the original Wasteland, dealt with topics like sexism and gender and race all the fucking time).
The fact that a faggot like Jon-Tron, who grew up rich as fuck in Palos Verdes California and routinely shills for fucking e-book sites just to get some extra greed cash, gets herolded as an "everyman gamer" because he says some nasty shit about niggers and women tells you a lot about how little you faggots actually care about "journalistic integrity".
You're just looking for some sycophants to agree with whatever shit you want to believe in.
4chan as a personal army. Same shit that's been going on since 2005.
Reminder that SJWs, especially the ones who call themselves "journalists," should be thrown in the trash.
>Can find the courage to say this while speaking on a platform that supports SJW narrative without having head blown up with cognitive dissonance
How you are able to do this is beyond me.
she didn't even get this cancerous meme right
Also, I hope I'm not the only one who's hated Leigh Alexander with a passion ever since her disgusting fat arse rolled on Giant Bomb's E3 podcasts.
>trying to make this kind of journalism illegal.
Well the internet neckbeard party doesn't have much lobbying power in the senate. US govt would rather make law that, if not benefit to, concern the majority of their population
>The fact that every single day, /v/ is now 30% posts accusing about 30 women working in the industry of "being cancerous" to gaming because they're releasing shitty games about feelings.
Who?What games and why?
The issue is not what games their making its if the review are advertising the proper quality of the product.
I am reading all this thread, because I honestly want to know wtf happened.
BUT any hope that Gate would bring some fresh air to the medieval,personalist and monopolist practices of the industry is gone - since the crusade against the-one-who-remains-unamed and the consort, Sarke-chan, removed all thread of mature discussion
google "the name" and see what is going on, outside /v/ and Reddit: people have already transformed this in a "take sides" thing - and it wasn't supposed to. It was about BAD JOURNALISM and all it could tell us about THE FUCKING INDUSTRY.
Now is just people trolling, sending hate mail, trying to kill people irl etc
It was inevitable.
No advertiser wants to be associated with SJW's who bully and degrade their audience of white men 18-34.
>Now is just people trolling, sending hate mail, trying to kill people irl etc
YOU need to stop the regurgitating mass media narrative.
GG is informing advertisers about bloggers acting like antagonizing retards, and they are in turn pulling their funding from them.
The death threats and harassment are coming from anonymous faggots, like in pic related. If you think that shit is legit then you need lurk the fuck more.
This. Gamers are TERRORIST™ shitlords worse than ISIS and Al-Qaeda combined. Gamergate is like 9/11™ times 9000.
Remember Dragons Crown and the attempted cencsorship by the sjw's then? We dont want that. People demanding a game be changed just because they find it offensive is not good. Discussion about it is good and encouraged, but if devs are being pressured to change something in a game because their publisher frequents a fucking tumblr pro or anti feminism or otherwise is not a good thing.
Just a heads up from some other board - After proclaiming us dead they now want to reclaim the word 'gamer'.
Congratulations for not making any attempts to figure out what's going on. I don't blame you, you're in good company along the likes of Wil Wheaton and Felicia Day.
Also another possible big advertiser pull incoming soon, stay tuned.
The fact that you're still talking in "them against us" terms, going to such bullshit lengths as pretending every single instance of harassment to a person from the opposition is "made up by themselves; the jews killed themselves to make us look bad!" tells a lot about how fucking broken you've become.
YOU need to stop regurgitating things you've read about on 4chan as though this is a totally honest and reasonable place.
Didn't we fucking come here to get away from "serious narrative" and be around a bunch of people who are letting out their inner asshole free of societal constraints?
Why the fuck are faggots like you suddenly lapping up everything said here by people ACTUALLY from /pol/, where sexist racist dipshits go to scream about niggers taking over the world banks, as though there were serious credibility to it?
You've become brainwashed by having "friends" who agree with you for all the wrong reasons. You're a dipshit.
>people trolling, sending hate mail
This existed way before the internet. But back then, people had the decency to ignore them and to focus on the debate, rather than use 10 sociopaths as an excuse to dismiss the whole movement
I know what you're doing and it's not fooling anyone.
Go find something else to do.
I think it's KKK comparisons now
Calm down and go fap or something. Is that why you keep posting those?
Why do these low-IQ liberals keep coming to 4chan to trigger themselves? This isn't the site for you. You don't belong here. No one is falling for your shit.
Yes, Gamergate is at its heart a conservative movement (composed mainly of non-conservatives) that opposes SJWs, because SJWs are nasty people and opposing them is morally righteous. The fact that the left is willing to blatantly lie in order to demonize a group of former moderates for daring to question their agenda is the most interesting thing to come out of this. That and the delicious butthurt from drooling simpletons like you.
It was a few hundred people bitching about big titties. So fucking what. They probably wouldn't have had a problem if there had been giant beautiful cocks in the game. But faggots like you would have accused them of "pandering to women".
Every fucking thing you say proves how lost in the unclear bullshit of GG you've become, son.
You can't keep playing the harassment card over and over again, even on mainstream media. GG has already been called the worst of things, from racists to fascists to ISIS or what the fuck ever.
Advertisers will still be informed, bloggers will still make themselves look worse. This shit is not going away until people get fired or companies go under.
>google gamergate, look at news
>woman driven out of her home!
>gamergate is over
>GamerGate: a misogynistic hate movement
>very obvious bias against gamergate
>it's the SJWS doing it!
>Thank good my dad taught me how to suck Ronald Reagan's dick
Them against us, binary choices, the only people are people who agree with us, blah blah blah.
I bet you're one of those niggers who thinks he could pull of a fedora "non-ironically".
Look, this whole thing needs to end quickly. Irreparable harm is being done to the gaming industry as a whole. Instead of fixing problems, you guys have been creating more. In your crusade, you found out you could do major damage to the game journalists, but you never stopped to think about the consequences of your actions or even if you should do this. You never stopped to wonder how many people are going to be hurt by your insane war. What will come after you have torn this land to shreds? Do you have a plan for that? No. You don't, and so the vacuum you create is just going to be filled with the same kind of people because you guys can't plan how to go about getting the changes you want, nor will you play diplomacy. Instead, you chose to become sjw, in your pursuit of sjw. Congratulations, you have become no better than the shit heads you are trying to destroy.
God help you if you destroy the entire gaming industry over this. Because, that is where you are headed. We stand a good chance of you guys destroying the gaming industry and getting some kind of legislated end to anonymity, thanks a fucking bunch you insipid cock suckers.
Fedoras are associated strongly with social justice and whiteknighting, but I doubt you have the self awareness to realize that.
>if there had been giant beautiful cocks
A considerable part of women actually finds penises gross. The male equivalent of big breasts is, surprisingly, big pectoral muscles and a 6 pack, not a big dick.
>where sexist racist dipshits go to scream about niggers taking over the world banks, as though there were serious credibility to it?
Have you ever been to /pol/? This is completely inaccurate.
>Read a ton of articles telling you it's about people sending hate mail and trying to get people killed
>Actually finding people doing this is almost impossible, and the ones that can be found are suspect at best.
An employee at Gawker decided to post on twitter to "Bring back bullying" along with other posts about wanting to beat up nerds. People called him on his shit, Gawker then wrote an 'apology'. In this apology: https://archive.today/ukM2J they say that "Intel is run by craven idiots" along with an entire paragraph of shitting on them when Intel didn't even pull out of their fucking site. Intel pulled out Gamasutra, so why are they so butthurt? This is the point. They're too close. They're acting like they're a single fucking entity. Mercedes, BMW, Nissan, Adobe, and Colgate (unconfirmed), have pulled out from Gawker so far. It's easy mode at this point.
Posting this because this place is filled with newfags
ALSO YOU SHILLS, READ THIS. I want both sides to learn to use the terms right. Faggots.
If Gawker burns, i'm just going to fucking sit here and laugh.
A better future for everyone.
>people actually think journos aren't leeches on the industry
Calm down, nobody's going to take your games away from you
Hey. Hey. It's the left. It's the entire left. It's NPR, it's the New York Times, it's CNN, it's ALL OF THEM. 100% of the mainstream left supports Anita and condemns gamergate, and if they knew you disagreed they would fucking disown you. Sorry if the truth hurts.
Generally, by which I mean 100% of the time, it is liberals posting cultural marxist bullshit on what used to be hobbyist sites, and liberals demonizing all non-feminist gamers as subhumans. Your opinions expressed so far have been 100% in line with liberal dogma and this "don't think in binary terms" angle is laughable. You are thinking in binary terms too, and you're on the wrong side.
I know how to use the term right.
It's a JOKE.
>inb4 I was only pretending!
No, I mean it, I've been using "weeb" as a joke to describe anyone at all who likes something Japanese for the last few years. I use weeaboo to refer to actual weeaboos.
I'm japanese I can't be a weeaboo by definition.
Suck it whitey.
Most women I've talked with actually find the equivalent to be body-hair, as it's something so provocative and so rare within media that seeing a naturally hairy male nude enough that you can see hair is as titillating as seeing giant titties. Also, male butts which don't exist enough in games.
If people actually gave a shit about gaming and freedom of creativity and all the faggotry everyone bitches on and on about, we'd be fighting for equal representation of fetishes. Women should be allowed to have their fucking smutty sexy garbage in the same setting as big titties. Equality through everyone getting turned on.
But every time someone tries to make something sexy for women, they get called "faggot panderers" or SJWs.
Because this entire movement is retarded, and now a bunch of fucking conservatives
I'm an anarchist, thanksthink that a movement about freedom of expression and the right to do whatever the fuck you want is somehow a conservative movement.
Dumb, confused niggers everywhere.
STFU kotaku. The aim is to stop journos telling us what right and wrong is. And then FORCING their own shitty baseless agenda onto US who want NONE of it.
Gaming will get stronger because istead of having shitty games like oppression quest and gone outside of house. we'll have better games where the devs DON'T have to sleep with Journos so get good reviews.
Now go back to your tumblr
Yeah but are you actually a jap, or are you a halfie living in the US etc etc
Because everyone I've ever met who says they're "German" or whatever has like, one german great grandparent and that's it.
No one is saying that, retard.
The problem is the injection of politics into vidya (Bayo2 polygon review, anyone?) where if you don't toe the line, you get fucked if you're small enough.
In the western videogame industry, small time devs getting blacklisted by the media can mean career death. This also means pieces of absolute shit get artificially placed on pedestals (Gone home, anyone?) and flood the market with garbage that gets 10/10 despite being objectively shit.
So, do you want the cuckie cabal to be the gatekeeper of the new blood from now on? Or do you want to carve out the cancer?
>this entire movement is retarded, and now a bunch of fucking conservatives I'm an anarchist, thanks think that a movement about freedom of expression and the right to do whatever the fuck you want is somehow a conservative movement
Nigga DAFUQ did I just read?
Lipshits you are going #FullMcintosh again
Has this place changed so much that you can't enjoy Bayonetta 2 and kicking Kotaku's ass?
You can't do this on 4chan, Eight chan does!
What happened was that everytime people had a chance to walk back their remarks
To apologize for their actions
To simply take a step back
Or to avoid injecting themselves into shit that had nothing to do with them
Said people in this case gaming journos/random sjws ect, consistently fucked up, inflamed the situation, made themselves look worse, shit on large numbers of people, and inherently drew more people to a cause that really wouldn't have gone anywhere. That is what happened.
GG is literally reactionary. If idiots would stop inflaming the situation or god forbid considering walking back their remarks (and by idiots I mean gawker types) it would literally all go away. But they never will because they are in fact, idiots. So the shit will keep hitting the fan until "I guess" either someone kills themselves over it or gawker/sister sites go bankrupt over literally every single advertiser quitting. Right now it looks like the latter is happening.
Its just so fucking stupid, the entire thing reeks of 12 year old level flame war only you realize its supposed "journalists" of 22 and older and people like pie face ect doing all of the shitposts, people who were supposedly "professionals" yet never managed to learn what the internet is and that if you put your real name on something and its bullshit you will be called on it, and that the proper response is not to go and then shitpost like a whiny little kid. Its unfathomably retarded the entire thing. Its still boggles my mind that these supposed "media experts" forgot that the number one rule in a scandal is plausible deniability and damage control, and instead they just keep shooting themselves in the foot.
But basically OP, what it amounts to is the internets greatest flamewar. And it won't stop until one side or the other is seriously blown the fuck out.
you are the cancer because you are letting your own personal politics trick you into thinking you're justified in all the stupid faggy shit you say.
The only winning move is not to play, nigger
Have you not stopped and taken a look at what else is happening BECAUSE of your fighting? There is a massive amount of collateral, and it is doing serious damage to the actual devs, not just the ones who make shit products.
Maybe if you stupid fucks had gone about things in a civilized manor, shit would be fine. No, you had to go running around waving your dick and pissing all over everything like usual. Why am I not surprised.
Though, watching Gawker burn gives me a massive boner.
My source was a poll I've read somewhere, the results were like 40% found it gross (compared to the near entirety of men who find breasts cool)
Closest equivalent I could quickly find is this : http://members.lovingyou.com/poll.php?s=e8d39e46720ba7d9d07f732049cc3bd5&action=showresults&pollid=4064 , which show approx the same results.
>inb4 hurr this isn't a representative sample of the population
I don't have a file where I keep every piece of data I heard about you homo
Shit, that's what I've been railing against from the start.
Then again, new sites that don't rely on this bullshit like techraptor are cropping up. If the whole sjw bullshit collapses then there's nothing stopping them from filling the void
>I'm an anarchist, thanks
It was between this and Marxist, really. For anyone still unaware, "anarchist" these days means extreme privilege-checking SJW. Not sure how that happened exactly, but you can check any anarchist community if you doubt me.
>rape shouldn't be allowed in video games
>violence shouldn't be allowed in video games
>sexuality shouldn't be allowed in video games
>Not a call for censorship
And she doesn't off critical analysis, she offers opinions based on surface experience. She called Bayonetta sexist and had to quickly shut the fuck up because of how wrong she was.
>"I don't want politics in videogames"
>YOU JUST WANT POLITICS IN VIDEOGAMES
But you're doing the same thing.
"I don't like social justice warriors. That means it's a cancer and needs to be changed."
You're using the same fucking weapons to fight an equally dumb opposition, turning yourself into an even worse cancer.
That's what all this shit has done. It's turned otherwise reasonable people into insufferable cunts. I'm talking about both SJW-types AND people like you, who I probably would have enjoyed the company and asshole-ish opinions of in 4chan a few years ago, before /pol/ brainwashed you dumb fuckers into thinking you agree with everything they say.
>I hate everyone and all their stupid beliefs, including mine.
>I hate the idea that activism leads to anything other than someone else getting fucked.
>MUST BE A LIBERAL SJW!
What a nigger you are, son.
Listen shill. Having a women barge into your office, asking you to fucking hire her because 'you don't have enough women in the game industry' and not for any of her skills and then pay her for doing shitty job and have a fucking shitty game is HARM and GG is stopping that from happening.
Check your shill privilege.
>we're fighting against corruption in gaming journalism
>Its just so fucking stupid, the entire thing reeks of 12 year old level flame war only you realize its supposed "journalists" of 22 and older
It's also the mainsteam media now. Basically all of it. We were so naive, thinking "SJW" was a concept distinct from "liberal".
Those developres could come out at any time against the SocJus crowd and tell the press that they're not sexist misgonists.
But they won't because as soon as you say something like "Anita is a moron" you INSTANTLY get black listed as a developer
This shit right here.
If you want to bring women into the games industry, you have to portray it as a good industry and reach kids and college students. If you just bitch about it constantly and just say "YOU SHOULD GO BE IN THE GAMES BIZ" who the fuck are you going to interest?
The answer is scam artists who recognize prime controversial baiting material when they see it.
That has never once fucking happened.
The only thing people are noting is that there aren't many female hires in gaming. When dipshits go further than that, like blaming GAMERS for the fact that schools aren't reaching out to women or whatever, then they go to dipshit fag mode.
But you guys are imagining blue haired lesbians running into Platinum Games and stealing a job that had your name on it.
You are an even worse cancer because you don't think you're metastasizing.
It's starting to become hard to decipher your rambling shitposts. Are you saying I hate everyone and their beliefs, or you do? I can definitely see you're trying to fit in though, using the word "nigger" and all.
OK, you asexual trigender polymorphing aromantic sheep-weed-dragon-goddesofthemoon-kin.
It is hardly a representative sample, but I guess it has enough randomness in it to pass.
What is interesting is how 52% of women absolutely worship cocks and about 26% like them enough not to vomit... So what's with the other 22%?
One can only imagine the mysteries we could unravel if we had all the data about the people that participated. I wonder if there is a correlation between distinct groups of people and their respective choices.
BTW, say hallo for me to your headmate Hitler.
Because you were stupid and took this to twitter, you now have goons running around shitting things up and have given them an easy scape goat for it. You guys either have to find an effective way to shake them, or you will wind up making it A LOT easier to push stupid bills through. Your intentions, while good, are being executed very badly. What people don't like about you isn't your message, its your method. Your method has lead to way too much bad shit being done, regardless of who is doing it.
"I don't like social justice warriors. That means it's a cancer and needs to be changed."
Implying that's the case.
your assuming just because we dislike them it makes what their talking about wrong. What we disagree with is the opinion not the people. You don't see GG saying "Kill all Sjw" or "SJW ARE DEAD". This is a issue of qualification of position of people to "OBJECTIVE" review. A bride can vary in amount but not in moral it wrong weather it 15shilling or 1,000,000 shilling.
Just listen and believe guys like the rest of us. You faggots think independence is something you have a right to. BUT THAT'S A FUCKING MYTH.
Fuck heads think they can think for themselves. Kek.
This. I go to the gawker website, read the article and read the comments.
All I see are people calling GGer's "manchildren" and "virgins" and "muh soggy knees".
For fucks sake the article is BLATANTLY inflammatory and biased.
It's mind-boggling unbelievable that anyone would form an opinion off a piece of shit article like that, but they still do.
Kids aren't being taught to critically think I guess...
But you're doing the same thing here, posting images of fear-mongering and impossible stories about women busting down doors and inspecting objects for anti-feminism. YOU are indoctrinating people with equal, if not worse, levels of stupid shit.
Just fucking stop caring already. This is the same shit that made Chanology so fucking annoying; you assholes pretended that a movement about hating a religion could have a reasonable spin to it.
>he uses white knight as if it's some kind of insult
> x is bad
> try to change it
> "WHY ARE YOU EVEN TRYING YOU RETARD IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOREVER!"
If you wanna improve something, you gotta stand up for it. Thats the only way change happens.
This is denying the diversity of the english language
>he thinks white knight isn't an insult
>But you're doing the same thing here
We're posting images of bloggers acting like faggots and providing reasonable evidence against them.
SJW presentations like that consist of "Listen and Believe."
>a bunch of faggots defending their shitty poor quality games while imagining every single woman, homosexual, or person with a desire to write something atypical into a game was against them, didn't start this!
You were aching for a fucking fight like some dumb nigger who just got out of a violent movie. It's why you faggots used Zoe Quinn as a platform for your movement; it was easy to hate her, and everyone wanted to punch her skeezy face in.
Because it doesn't fucking matter. Games journalism was already on it's way out. Most people just hit up youtube or twitch when deciding if they want a game.
All you retards did was prolong their death since you stupid harassment is driving hits to their site.
But they're posting images of you and 4chan talking about this shit.
Their "listen and believe" shit probably had a few hours of conversation and reporting. You're just picking and choosing images to make them look like mongoloids trying to rape the heterosexuality out of you.
YOU'RE BOTH THE EXACT SAME FUCKING THING, but with slightly different flavors of cock. Welcome to identity politics, GG friend.
I didn't know XOXO was all fake.
I also didn't know that as a woman I should just sit here and let cunts that are only doing shit for their personal gain.
Shit, anon. I'm so sorry. I'll just stop and fall in line and continue to be an embarrassment to people who actually earned the right to speak so I could.
The fact that they'll even resort to things like racial epithets to false flag with tells you a lot about how they really feel towards minorities, doesn't it? They really are just shields to them. Just objects to be used for their agenda and discarded when they no longer have value.
>they're posting images of you and 4chan talking about this shit.
They're posting images of themselves false-flagging on 4chan, pretending to be retards. You can't false flag a Twitter account; every dumb thing they say is them and only them.
Are you really honestly surprised?
While listen and believe is dangerous as all hell and needs to be put to rest NOW, what you are doing is pretty much the same thing that they do. Just get it done with and fuck already.
It is also causing issues in the dev communities, and not just ones related to shilling.
>it doesn't matter
>just let us win guys, it doesn't matter!
>Sam Biddle's twitter diarrhea killed the Gawker network and will take down Kotaku with it
I don't even follow GG but holy shit yes.
no one cares about that blue haired hooker anymore or ur precious journalism. that's the gaymergayturd's fault for reading kotaku in the first place, insufferable reddit-tier faggots
If we can't fix gaming journalism, how the fuck do you expect us fix anything else?
This involves you whether you like it or not. These shitty sites are involved in either praising the game because they have a relationship with the developer or burying the game because they don't like the person who's making it. Good games will be ignored, bad games will be put on pedestals.
Your newfag is showing.
There were always threads popping up on /v/ of how shit gaming journalism was. Remember how any kotaku article was pastebin'ed to stop views from going to the website.
This was happening LONG before this current GG movement started.
What it was waiting on was proof, which we finally got from following the breadcrumbs left from She Who Shall Not Be Named.
Your argument is null and you can go back to your Gawker/Kotaku/Jezebel SJW bullshit and continue being brainwashed and ignorant.
Get off my 4chan
I am absolutely terrified of the future if these are the kind of debates people are having.
>Barrack Obama got a nobel peace prize for doing nothing
God help us and this shitty country filled with mongrels.
>what you are doing is pretty much the same thing that they do
Do you really believe that?
Look at the average GG hive. It's coordinating explanations for the movement, coordinating mail to advertisements, providing evidence that SJWs are idiots (via their official Twitter and forum accounts, not anonymous shitposts) and aggressively debating people who are all too eager to try and spin it as if criticisms make them akin to rape victims.
The actual reality is that GG is what Gawker and their affiliates wish they could be: smart, dedicated, clever and on the right side. And the biggest joke is that these GG people are just a bunch of kids from 4chan. What does that say about Gawker?
I'll forgive so much of the shit I have seen gg do, if they burn Gawker to the ground. That is the one thing I ask.
If they really wanted to do real damage to their stated enemy, they would go on a witch hunt of various goon related factions, many of which are the very people causing them troubles in their plight.
Not many ask questions. Shills don't know IDs exist so they post long responses responding to themselves about how they're going to do such and such to a person no one cares about.
You're generally only called a shill if you're a doomcrier, claiming the movement will fail.
90% of ACTUAL GG people are very open to constructive debate. Most are feminists themselves. It's very hard to notice what with sjws whitewashing the message with all their fflagging.
I laugh hysterically every time one of them tries this thinking it's just like 4chan, gets post IDs explained to them, and then goes into some kind of crazed, mentally handicapped, pseudo-trolling damage control mode.
They used to have something about the censorship they put in their OP header which didnt have anything to do with SJWs or journalism
just dudes who had their own morals
when i asked them how it related they just called me a shill who was "trying to derail the thread" which made me laugh because at the time they did nothing but repost copy pasta
Gawker writers are browsing these threads and cooking up entire articles with bait headlines from cherry picked posts that may as well be falseflags in order to tarnish the movement.
Gawker's a complete joke.
I've been watching since the start. Sometimes trying to help steer you guys in the right direction, but you also have a lot of twats who think they should act like little fucks where ever they go. If you guys could get your people to act like adults, you would make a lot more head way. From the outside, both sides look like a bunch of fucking idiots pissing on each other. It also looks a lot like you use a lot of the same methods as sjw, but centered around trust and verify instead of listen and believe type shit. Every group has its brain, even the sjw ones, its the limbs that tend to define it though.
Watching him burn his world to go after you has been so wonderful. I'm like literally getting a boner watching this go on. Gawker's head for xmas would be the greatest gift.
a bit of both.
Yeah, I remember bringing it up at least a couple of times a year on /q/ for more years than i can remember. I was far from alone. Still hasn't happened. Isn't ever going to happen. And now there's no /q/.
>thinking sjw's are shit posters
Yeah bruh cuz all the previous shit posting was whatever but those darn humans expecting rights!1 lol effin nigers.
Anita is pretty well spoken and her videos are simply based on literary analysis.