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reminder that this guy won the first ever smash 4 tournament
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We did it /v/!
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Look at the disappointment in Reggie's face.

Fucking Scarflard.
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>no johns
>first to win tournament
>a john
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reggie won?

no surprise there
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I never understood the hate for this guy. He played to his character's strengths and won. He never cheated or colluded. He didn't display poor sportsmanship. The only valid complaint people can come up with is that he's not fashionable and he's a bit ugly. Yet people act like he's hitler for some unknown reason.
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It's only a win by the most literal definition. The entire audience boo'd him off the stage and Reggie said he wanted to kick his ass. When he retells the story to his nieces and nephews I'm sure it will be an abridged version. He may have won, but it was by playing cheap and dirty. He'll never win the love and respect a real champion gets. A winner by title only.
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Some of /v/ got really mad.
>he used unfair tactics
Lel
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So what happened exactly?
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>>268954160
he basically spent most of the final match stalling because he knew he couldn't win legitimately.
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>>268953540
>Kirby gets second
>All because that fag D1 told him to run away
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>>268954160
>didn't display poor sportsmanship

>Actively avoids every fight until Sudden Death arrives.
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>>268954171
>reggie said he wanted to kick his ass
you make it sound like a threat rather than a silly joke
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>>268954160


>picking one of the most mobile characters in the game and standing back avoiding fights and then spamming final smash to kill everyone plus stalling like a nigger because he was afraid of losing like a bitch instead of facing his demise with honor

yeah no
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>>268954276
how is that not a legit way to win?
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>>268954219
>tactics

running away isn't a tactic
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He probably posts in these threads, you know.
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>>268954405
wut?

him winning proves your dumb-ass wrong.
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>>268954160
it was more an issue of the competition itself. of course the fastest most agile character would consistently get smash balls over the other characters. every time he got one he basically assured himself 2 or 3 k.o's
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Heres an idea. If you hate how people play in Smash then play a different game.
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>>268954397
i bet you'd defend him even if he used a gameshark to make himself invincible or something
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>not watching basedscarf on twitch

http://www.twitch
.tv/zero
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>>268954405

>running away
>not a tactic

It's called a Tactical Retreat, dumb ass.

If you know you are going to get your ass blasted, do you press on? Or do you back away and live to see another day to plan a new tactic?

He legitimately won, even if it was the weakest, most pathetic win that was shown to an entire world on a live stream.

A win is a win. I don't give a fuck how I get it.
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>that match where a smash ball appeared and everyone stood back so mega man could reveal his final smash for the first time
>commentators freaking the fuck out
>SUPER FIGHTING ROBOT
>MEGA MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
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>>268954763
the ends don't justify the means, anon

scarflard wasn't skilled enough to win the tournament and robbed the victory from the one truly deserving it because he's a selfish cunt.
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>>268954763

It really just proves why melee is the better competitive game.
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>>268954776
best part of the whole shit
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>Game has shitty combat that rewards defensive play
>People get mad when they realise this
Expected I suppose
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>>268954160
He was an archetypical Nintendo fan and he won by exploiting weaknesses in the game's design
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I like to imagine the people who hate on scarflard trying to play chess and sending out their king to attack, then getting pissed off when the other guy castles and easily wins

>FUCKING CHEAP TACTICS STOP BEING A COWARD
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>>268955074
there's exploits in everything. smash isn't normally such a defensive game
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Everytime I see Nintendo shitposters I imagine this is what they look like
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Good. The butthurt is real. He deserved it. The Kirby player was hogging the edge and ran away from combat in matches leading to it and nobody seems to bring it up. And in sudden death, that Kirby had many chances to grab ZSS.
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>>268955128
the difference is that chess and a fighting game are not the same fucking thing
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>>268954405
Tell that to Lilo faggot.
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>>268955128
>comparing a simultaneous twitch video game to an asynchronous board game

there is no analogy here
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>>268954876
He clearly was skilled enough to win it because HE FUCKING WON IT.
The problem is with the game and the tournament organization (smash balls in a tournament situation are fucking ASKING for trouble), not the player.

Zero's a cool guy and people hate him because he won in a way they didn't like.

The Kirby player was doing practically the same shit anyway
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>>268955074
>Defensive
There's being a defensive player, and then there's playing like a bitch.
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>>268954528
well that would be cheating now wouldn't it you dingdong?

he clearly played professionally, plus skillfully and won because of it.

SO is this why there are all sort of stupid rules on those smash groups, like stopping the game when a smash ball shows up and the winner of rock paper scissors gets it?

clearly his opponents weren't good enough to counter his strategy so they were clearly the one deserving of a win somehow...no that's retarded.

being rectal ruptured isn't going to change the fact that he won using a reasonable strategy resulting in a win. He won, it works.
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>>268953540
Perfectly appropriate reflection of the fan base.
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>scarflard gets the pick of all the characters in the game
>chooses the sluttiest female character available
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>>268955128
>running away in a videogame
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People like that fatass are the reason Sudden Death is banned in tourney play.
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>>268954171
>>268954276
>Kirby never used Up B the whole time
He was also looking for sudden death
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>>268953540
People didn't expect Smash tournyfags turning a fun exhibition style tournament into a giant shitfest?

Literally a worse tourny community than LoL.
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>>268954160
>sportsmanship
That is where we found the bait. Cakeboy doesn't even know how to tie a scarf properly.
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>>268955382
those smash groups that put those stupid rules on them are very few and far between and are probably run and maintained by middle schoolers. using a cowardly, assholish "strategy" to con a victory because he was using the best character for running away like a little bitch doesn't count as an honorable win in my book.
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>>268955553

git gud
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>>268953540
is there a video of this? i've always played smash bros but have never gotten into the competitive scene
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>>268955610
Where did he ever display poor sportsmanship?

To be clear, playing to win within the confines of the game rules is good sportsmanship. Poor sportsmanship would be screaming at his opponent to distract him or flipping off the crowd.
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ITT

>ZOMG he sucks, he just stalled until teh final smash

But wait! I thought SSB was a tightly balanced tourneyfag pandering GOAT?

Oh that's right, you've got to disable the default items and you're only allowed to play on about 3 stages. Even after that, people can still cheat?

Ayyyyy lmao nintendogs getting BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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>Last round
>Scarflord playing normally
>He's got higher % than Kirby
>Announcer chimes in to remind everyone that this isn't normal tourney rules and it will go in to sudden death if no one loses a stock
>Scarflord immediately stops fighting and stalls for the rest of the match
There's making a "tactical retreat" and then there's flat out refusing to fight in a fighting game. He would have lost if it was the normal tourney rules.
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>>268955764

You're right, SSB4 is a shitty, noncompetitive game

Good thing melee is there to pick up the slack.
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>>268953540
harry's a nintenfag?
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You realize Reggie pounded his fatpussy that night, right?
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>>268955640
But it was a legitimate win.

He didn't cheat. He didn't display 'poor sportsmanship'. He didn't do anything 'dishonorable'. He just did what he needed to do to win, and he did.
It would've been dishonorable NOT to do that, they call it 'sandbagging' and it's a shitty way of playing.

No, it wasn't much fun to watch, but that was more Nintendo's fault than anything. The tournament ruleset was terrible.
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>>268955382

Actually those Smash groups are meleefags in their poor attempt to balance an otherwise hilariously unbalanced and autistic meta.
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>>268955018
>Rosalina saving the day
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>>268955751
The conduct that defines sportsmanship is based on the activity's culture. Hiding like a bitch has always been frowned on in smash.
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>>268953540
You mean he *won*
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>>268953540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KTqCbdT8PE
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>>268954160
Most people are mad because he stalled on the last match. Him and Hungrybox had 1 stock each but scarf was at a high percentage. He stalled at the top of Battlefield and waited for a Sudden Death.
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>>268955764
I know this is b8, but holy shit you're retarded
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People in this thread who defend this kid probably believe that they can use any exploit glitch or other weasily bullshit in order to snag a win, because a win is a win no matter what and that's all that matters.
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>>268954160
If he stops wearing the fucking scarf I'll respect him
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>somebody complains that X tactic is cheap and "dishonorable" in street fighter/blazblue/tekken/guilty gear/soul caliber/virtua fighter/marvel vs capcom/etc
>gets called a scrub who needs to learn how to play and stop being a baby

>somebody complains that X tactic that is not against the game rules is cheap and "dishonorable" in real life sports or competitive board game
>gets called an idiot and ignored by anybody with sense

>somebody complains that X tactic is cheap and "dishonorable" in Smash Bros
>everybody agrees and declares that the win wasn't "legitimate" and makes death threats to the person who used the tactic

indisputable proof that Smash Bros has the most immature fanbase of any competitive game on Earth
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>>268956095
just remembered about this holy shit
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He's got no style and he has no grace. You guys just dislike him cuz he's ugly
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>>268954171
>Reggie said he wanted to kick his ass.

he said that to Hungrybox, no Zero you dumbass
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Anyone have the "make me a woman, Scarflard" pic?
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>>268954876
>Robbed the victory
Who did he rob it from exactly? Because It's not his fault Hbox couldn't capitalize on ZSS when he had the most obvious of chances.

Not making shit excuses because shitlord you don't like won fair and square
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>>268956152

I'm sorry if I upset you by sharing a negative opinion on a Nintendo exclusive. Don't worry, there's lots more rehash waiting for ya down the years.
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>>268955276
Lilo did nothing but spam balls and jump around the stage
And then people complain about that guy
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>>268955928
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/v/ is fucking retarded. The best player does anything within the confines of the game to win.

He is the best Brawl and PM player for a reason.
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>>268956095
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>>268954937
It's more a fault of the rule set. If they were playing normally where the percent lead decides the winner, Zero would've been going on the offensive. Sudden Death is stupid for tournaments.
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>>268956095
That was actually a pretty exciting match, unlike the one in the invitational.

timestamp for the good bit is http://youtu.be/3KTqCbdT8PE?t=21m30s

Really though it's just childish that people are so mad about this whole thing. It was perfectly within the rules and to NOT do that would've been stupid as fuck.

Intentionally not playing as well as you can is called 'sandbagging' in the Smash community and it's heavily frowned upon.
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Winning by any means necessary is 'honor'. People have this insane notiin that one should gimp themselves for honor. Fuck no. There is nothing more insulting than have someone gimp themselves out of pity for you. The only honor is to play to win.
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>>268955018
Dat rosalina
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>>268956095
>Hand warmers
>In fucking Brawl
Holy shit tourneyfags will do anything just to waste the TOs time. Would never host want to host a Smash tourney with all the shit I see and hear.
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>>268956187
That's your reason?
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>>268956680
This. So long as you're not outright cheating, you should do everything it takes to win.
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>>268953540
yooo
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>>268953540
so this is what a tourneyfag looks like
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>>268956712
>brawl

Retard.
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Why does he wear the scarf?
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>>268956854
smashfags are babies, more news at 11
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remember that this guy has the only credible smash review.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYgMZTTul2o
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>>268954405
That's what you think
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>>268956854
>>268956680
in b4 some idiot jumps to the idiotic conclusion that not gimping yourself with random made-up rules is the same as using cheat codes and exploits

oh wait somebody already did that ITT
>>268954528
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>>268954160
He beat /v/s husbando, hungrybox.
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>>268956372
You're retarded because you're literally wrong.

Has nothing to do with Nintendo, you fucking drone.
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>>268956963
Because he has not fashion sense.
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>>268956680
reminded me of that mvc3 match where magneto kept pushing hagar back so he couldn't get close for 30 seconds and timed him out
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>>268956963

To try and hide his huge man tits.
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>caring about this shit at all
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There seems to be this big confusion on "how to win a tournament"

>He cheated, he won by sudden death which is cheating and not allowed.
First off, they were playing on NINTENDO'S RULES...Not some faggoty EVO bullshit.

>He's stalling, that's lame
Him stalling till sudden death was a SMART thing to do. Him running up and getting ok easily would've been the dumb thing to do.

>Muh Honor
You're playing to win a tournament, No one who's in the tournament itself gives a shit about Honor or whatever bullshit you guys are actually trying to bring up.

>Hbox deserves to win, he played fair
The hypocrisy for the shitheads who are defending Hbox is clear as day because this scrublord was camping throughout most of his matches...OH WOW...MUH Honor
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>>268956963
>>268957170
Serious answer: he wears the scarf to represent his mother who has cancer or something and to show respect for his country. He also has no fashion sense though
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You are now remembering hbox cheesed his way to the finals with Kirby's up grab in little Mac stage.
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>>268957391
Its ok when he does it though.
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>>268957240
If you weren't a scrub you would realize that the reason he was doing that was to frustrate and anger his opponent so he would be off his game in the next fight. Top tier mindgames.
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>>268953540
Reminder that the audience looked like this
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>>268956641
If it were like Melee then a match with a highly mobile and combo oriented character wouldn't have went to time after 8 minutes
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>>268956963
Would he die if you took it off?
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>>268954171
>He may have won, but it was by playing cheap and dirty. He'll never win the love and respect a real champion gets. A winner by title only.
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>>268957342
>Not some faggoty EVO bullshit
I agree with everything in your post except this.

The fuck is wrong with EVO?
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>>268957479
>It's ok when Nintendo does it though.
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>>268957593
Where's the sexy Gardevoir cosplayer?
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>>268954405
Tell that to Sun Tzu:

>走為上策/走为上策, Zǒu wéi shàng ce) cf. 退避三舍
>If it becomes obvious that your current course of action will lead to defeat, then retreat and regroup. When your side is losing, there are only three choices remaining: surrender, compromise, or escape. Surrender is complete defeat, compromise is half defeat, but escape is not defeat. As long as you are not defeated, you still have a chance. This is the most famous of the stratagems, immortalized in the form of a Chinese idiom: "Of the Thirty-Six Stratagems, fleeing is best" (三十六计,走为上计).
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>>268957678
What I mean is people are giving off this idea that he's suppose to follow the same shit that you're suppose to do at EVO

NEWS FLASH, This was not EVO and they were following Nintendo's rules.
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You're all fucking idiots.
He stalled at the end, yes, but not the entire match. What he did the entire match was playing defensive. Why? Because Smash 4 sucks balls just like Brawl. It rewards defensive play. There is literally no reason to play aggressive like in Melee. And this is why everyone fucking hates Smash 4. Because it's the next Brawl.
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>>268957701
People here actually defend Hbox's scrub playing and act like Scarflard somehow stole his win.
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>>268957809
A fight between two people is different from a war with thousands
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>>268957934
Recent tourney play has showed Smash 4 to be pretty exciting, honestly. It's a lot better than Brawl, in any case.
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>>268957491

The fact that it's impossible for assistless haggar to overcome it is the actual reason why he did it. Mahvel has a ton of stupid shit like that
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>>268955018

FIGHTING TO SAVE THE WORLD

I don't even play Smash except when I chill at a friends house but damn Rosalina was based as hell.
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>>268954776
The announcers pissed me off.

>IT'S THE .. Mario Kart .. ? LIGHTNING BOLT!
>IT'S THE ... WHAT IS THAT, THE EXCLAMATION BALL!
>THE BUILD-A-BEAR COMBO!

Yes, I DO expect Nintendo announcers to be Nintendo fans, thank you.
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>>268956095
>no scarf
That's why he fucked up.
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>>268955640
>stalling for time at the first Smash 4 tournament in front of a huge crowd just to win isn't poor sportsmanship

True sportsmanship isn't about winning, it's about being fair, having fun, and making sure the people around you are having fun watching.
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>>268958018
The Art of War is about strategic thinking in general, using war as the context with which to discuss the strategies. The concepts discussed in the book are equally applicable to war, competitive games, and even business.
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>>268954405
It is in smash tournament play.

ZeRO won it the same way he wins almost every tournament: Being a pussy. The only reason he wasn't escorted off the stage bawling is because it worked this time.

But that's not his fault, that's not Reggie's or anyone else's fault. That's just how the game was made. Don't get pissed at the kid because he used a part of the game to win.

If you want to laugh, look up his vs match where he tried the same shit and lost at the last second from a lucky down tilt from the opponent.

Then realize that if the SSB tournament on-stage was using actual tournament rules IE: No sudden death, then HungryBox would have won.
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>>268955128
>castles
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>>268953540
Anything is better than that faggot SaltyBox.
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>>268958082
if he was just doing it to win then he would have used assists to chip haggar down at the same time he was keeping him back. He purposely chose to not defeat haggar as a tactical choice.
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>>268958018

Nah. You win or you lose. It's more stark if it's 1 v 1
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>>268958062
It's still slow as shit and the meta hasn't evolved yet.
There is not even any shieldstun so it rewards defensive play even more.
People started playing MK in Brawl as soon as M2k started winning with him. We just have to wait for the meta to evolve to tell if it's better than Brawl or not.
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>>268955382
Not him but you're full of shit, he won because it was a locked characters match with sudden death enabled, and he was using a fast ranged character and hungrybox was using a primarily melee character.

Again, the kid won legitimately, but the whole tournament was a sham to begin with and you're retarded if you think it's any indication of skill. Especially when hungrybox trounced him later on during the after-hours sessions.
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>>268957656
Except HBox did except the loss. Everyone else knew that Hbox deserved the win, including Reggie. Fuck, I'm pretty sure Scarflard himself knew he didn't deserve it.
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>>268956660
>Brawl
>good match
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The problem with what he did at the official tournament wasn't that he won, it was that hundreds of people showed up there to watch an entertaining tournament along with thousands of other people watching the match on twitch and instead of being entertaining he decided to play like a faggot so he could get some cheap robe that Nintendo found in China.

He won fair and square, doesn't mean he's not a colossal faggot.
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>>268958225
sportsmanship is about respect.

Intentionally gimping yourself by not playing to your full potential is not respectful of the other player.
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>>268958225
Fairness? Honor?
That's what people who lose say. I play to win.
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>>268958225
>sandbagging is good sportsmanship

nope. Show some respect for your opponent you faggot. If you don't show respect then you deserve no respect yourself
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>>268956095
BTFO
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>>268958162
>>THE BUILD-A-BEAR COMBO!

I think they were trying to copy KFC Yipes with that one.
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>>268958082
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>>268958302

>or anyone else's fault

it's entirely sakurai's and his team's fault. His recent gameplay design choices are horrible for the series
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>>268954160
No matter how much of a "legit win" you think that was, his victory is a hollow one in the eyes of the majority. Winning only to be recognized by your niche elitist group of machiavellic assholes is just a pathetic victory.
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>>268958589
Did the scarf not tip you off to his autistic/possibly homosexual tendencies?

I doubt he even realizes that what he did was wrong and a total hype-killer. In his mercury addled mind, he probably considers himself a hero of some sort for winning Clownshoes: The Tournament.
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>>268958162
You don't need to play every nintendo game ever released just to do some fucking commentary
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>>268954160
He avoided fights and focused on grabbing Final Smashes since ZSS's FS is broken as fuck, that gave him easy stocks.
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>>268958712
>waaaah
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>>268956660
>>268956095
>good match
>30 minutes
what the fuck am I reading.
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>>268958018
>Fighting with a large army under your command is nowise different from fighting with a small one: it is merely a question of instituting signs and signals.

Sun Tzu already thought of that, mang.

>Bestow rewards without regard to rule, issue orders without regard to previous arrangements; and you will be able to handle a whole army as though you had to do with but a single man
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>>268955018
See this shit? This is good sportsmanship. Rosalina could have easily grabbed the smash ball, but she didn't. She could've easily avoided Megaman's FS, but she didn't. She jumped straight into it for the hype. To entertain the crowd.

That's some good shit.
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>>268957391
THIS THIS THIS SO MUCH

WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP FORGETTING THIS?
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>>268957593
and like this
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>>268956660
It was perfectly within the rules, and the game mode supports that play style above all others, but it is still not a fun thing to watch, and going tryhard to the point of stalling in what was effectively a for-fun exhibition more than a real tournament, is kind of shit.

Not against the rules, not unfair, not cheating, but it was in poor taste.
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>>268959093
I mean the very last match. The rest was shit thanks Brawl but the final one was pretty intense.
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>>268953540
Why do people praise HungryBox when all he did was camp in the free for alls?
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>>268957342
>You're playing to win a tournament
no, it's more about having fun. its just for some people like zero, winning by any means is fun, even if it means making the match unfun for the other player
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>people still mad
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>>268958880
You mean that exact same thing hungrybox did in his matches?
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>>268959239
Is he cosplaying Misty?
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>>268958712
You're right, but don't blame ZeRo for it.

>>268958929
>Sakurai is perfect in every way!
You guys are just as bad.
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>>268958225
>Being fair, having fun, and making sure people around you are having fun watching
>This is true sportmanship

Except it was clear as day that people had FUN, it was FAIR, and people enjoyed WATCHING it.

That's not what True Sportmanship is, It's being a respectable a person who plays to their best of their ability and does whatever it takes to win as long as he/she follows the rules. It's also respecting the other player and giving props to win or outsmarting.

True Sportsmanship is not people want that other person to win so you throw the match for pandering, not going off and screaming in disappointment, or looking like a sad fuck because he didn't come in first place.
>See Mew2King face at EVO 2014

That's called butthurt which this thread is clearly displaying
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>zss is an overpowered piece of shit during the tournament
>"prease understand! we will nelf! have you evel made a desselt!"
>release
>ZSS is still fucking overpowered
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>>268958646
>>268958629
How was Hbox gimping himself? He was trying to fight Scarfy, but he just kept running away. With how agile ZSS is, it wasn't exactly easy for Hbox to catch him. Had the match been based off %, then Scarfy wouldn't have jumped around like a little bitch.
>>268958636
You can play to win, but no one is going to like you if you're a dick about it. What's the point in winning if you have no one to enjoy your victory with?
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>>268959578
at the end, people were not enjoying it. pretty sure there were boos in the crowd
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>>268959293
>Because MURICA MURICA
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There's no real reason to hate Zero for winning the invitational like that. Maybe next time Nintendo won't make such a defensive-oriented game or just use no sudden death tourney rules
They probably won't though, considering their recent tourney had smash balls and 4 stocks..
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>>268959521
Brawl was bad, but Smash 4 is way better. It's not Melee-tier, but at least Sakurai seems to understand some of what he did wrong.
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>every other competitive scene supports the way scarffag plays
>smashfags whine and bitch because he didn't play their way
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>>268953540
ZeRo is so hard boiled.
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>>268959684
I didn't say Hbox was gimping himself.

I said Zero would've been gimping himself if he didn't play that way.
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>>268959578
>and people enjoyed WATCHING it.
That's why there was nothing but booing towards the end of the match, right?
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>>268959858
I don't think Sakurai has any idea what he did 'wrong', he just made some changes for the hell of it and we lucked out because they ended up being good changes.
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>>268959871
Please show me a competitive scene where no one hates campy play styles in ANY game.
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>>268958547
Deserving to win and winning fair and square are TWO totally different things, I hope you realize that.
ZeRo did exactly that by winning fair and square. All the people who keep saying HBox "deserved" to win has this sense that's called "asshurt".
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>>268959858
It has some good changes, but it just isn't enough. The next game needs to deviate MORE from Brawl. q
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>>268960078

Well in Counterstrike one team is always playing campy. It would be weird to hate them for holding sites
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>>268959885
That executive is the wierdest
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>>268959412
>You playing a tournament to have fun
>You're not playing to win
Then exactly what is the fucking point of a tournament even being there?

Dude you couldn't be anymore wrong.
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>>268960152
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You now imagine fatso scarfman taking Reggie's massive 30 incher monster cock
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Are people seriously still complaining about this and implying the invitational actually meant jack shit? The first few rounds were free for alls for fuck's sake.
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>>268960427
>stealing Reggie's 30 inches worth of Monster energy cans

What a horrible little shit.
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>>268960331
well, it's a tournament for a video game which tend to be played because they're fun. people go to test their skills, try to win, and have fun with other people, the prize is just a bonus. but hey, this is just my opinion
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>>268959787
>>268959994
>At the end of the match, right?
I'm glad we're pretending that the whole match didn't exist except for the end or people who were actually cheering because the guy won.
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>>268955081
fuck you thor aakerlund is the true example of a nintendo champion
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>>268960438
Yeah, the invitational was a fucking joke, it's ridiculous that people still care this much.
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>>268956963
A LOT OF LOYALTY FOR A HIRED GUN
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>>268960349
Exactly, you're proving my point. He didn't win because he didn't win...No one is going "OH HE TOTALLY DESERVED TO WIN"
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>>268960668
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nuFl-k-GULk#t=668
>except for the end or people who were actually cheering because the guy won.
lol
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>>268957391
>>268958012
>>268959153
I honestly think that faggot browses this board, trying to convince people that he isn't the most campy, faggoty player in every game that he touches.
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>>268960668
are you fucking kidding? the end of the match was where zero was playing like a faggot. sure, the rest of the match was alright, but at the end was where they were booing due to his campy and unfun to watch playstyle at the end
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>>268959631
I beat ZSS on level 8 (nine if I'm lucky) as Mega Man all the time. What are you talking about?
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>>268960034
Hopefully HAL will make the next game. They're doing some good shit with Kirby.
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>>268954160
It's not just hatred against him as it is hatred against the Tournament.

That entire tournament would have been laughed out of local arcades with that ruleset. But because Sakurai was there, people gave a shit. It was basically a circus, and Nintendo was crowning who the king clown was.

But: Because it was an "officially" sanctioned tournament, that means every other tournament is going to follow the same rules. Which is horseshit.
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Didn't this fag recently tried to take on both Mew2King and Hungrybox, Got his ass beat multiple times, and then tried to change to rules to suit his needs?

This Lardass is a fucking hack
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replay of the finals?
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>>268960331
>>268960601

Most people find playing to win to be fun. The problem is when playing to win actively promotes playing like a faggot like brawl and sometimes 4. Going HAM and being rewarding when you land a hit is a lot more satisfying for most people than rolls/dodge/shield into single hits.
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>>268960905
I think you were going deaf anon, because I heard "OOOOOH" and screaming more than I heard the actual boos
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>>268960981
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>>268961110
i totally agree. 4 seems to be a lot better than brawl but there are still times where i lose to someone who played like a faggot which always leaves a bad taste in my mouth
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>>268960960
>The end of the match was where zero was playing like a faggot.
Oh IM SORRY....Using the rules that were given to you to your advantage for a chance to win means you're a faggot player...
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>>268961251
You know someone will. I've already won.
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>>268961401
When you're playing like a faggot, yeah, it does.
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>>268956095
This makes it all worth it.

It really doesn't matter if he won some bullshit tournament that is only going to be known because it was "The first", what mattered is that in the contest of skill with legitimate rules: He lost. And then proceeded to act like a big baby about it with how anally blasted he was.

Meanwhile Hungrybox took his loss like a champ. So let the sperg have his fifteen minutes of fame, because when true skill is on the line: he comes out last.
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>>268961220
>someone gets a kill in any comp match
>people cheer
wow you don't say. the point is, there is barely any cheers or hype and the cheers that were heard were very inaudible
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>>268961639
He's still considered the best Brawl and PM player in the world.
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>>268961401
yes, he's a faggot player for using nintendo's faggot rules
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>>268957809
ZERO CONFIRMED FOR ULTIMATE WARRIOR
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>>268961518
>When you're playing like a faggot, yeah, it does
You mean like how HBox was doing throughout his matches?
Or the fact you're playing to win, and not throw out a win like a scrub because of pandering to the crowd?

Yea no, Get out of here with that shit logic dumbass.
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>>268961518
>everybody should play by my rules
oh and never mind that HBox was 'playing like a faggot' too
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>>268961953
HBox was playing like a faggot for most of the matches because most of them were 4 player ffa. aka stupid bullshit that should never be in a tournament
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ITT: Retards think the nintendo 'Tournament' was an actual tournament.

Proest of tips: Smash Tournaments don't enable sudden death. Neither do they allow 4 player FFA to determine brackets. They also don't enable every fucking item because the item placement algorithm is fucked as all hell and doesn't take item worth into account. (Some tournaments enable some items, but not every item)

So you can call the Nintendo meet whatever you want, but please don't compare it to an actual contest of skill. Both Zero and HBox got to the finals by being huge cowards and itemhogging at the edge of the screen. Watching Zero and HBox play early on was embarrassing for people who don't want the image of playing a child's game of keepaway.
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>>268961953
>because of pandering to the crowd?
That's EXACTLY what he should've done. This wasn't a serious tournament with everyone's pride on the line or anything. It was a tournament to build up hype and to entertain a fuckhuge crowd. It was also meant to show off what Smash 4 was like, and you know what Zero does?

He plays like a huge faggot, stalls to sudden death, and kills the hype. Hbox had to take it upon himself to rebuild the hype, and Reggie built off it too. Did you notice that right after Zero was given his trophy, he was promptly ignored til the end of the event?

Point is, the tournament was about having fun and building hype, not about winning.
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If they're going to be playing with the stupidest fucking rules ever, why would he not just wait for sudden death?

>"B-Because it's not honorable!"

Fucking lol, he's a competitive player, no shit he's going to do whatever it takes to win. What were you expecting?
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he may have been lame, but the true fault lies in the tournament if rules allowed that situation to happen
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>>268962407
IMO the true hero of the games was the Rosalina player who intentionally jumped into Mega Man's whiffed super just because he wanted to see it.

Yeah, that Rosalina player played like shit up until that point, but he still deserves a metal for giving us SUUUUUUUUUUUUPER FIIIIIIIIIIIGHTING ROOOOOOOOOBOT
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>>268962360
>hey guys, the only official tournament is not an actual tournament, i swear and here is why
>muh made up rules
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>>268962670
I thought I heard somewhere that he didn't do it on purpose, I think he got pretty buttmad about people saying it was on purpose.
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>>268962670
>>268962407 here, and I completely agree. The Rosalina player was the prime example of how everyone should've been playing.
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a brawl faggot winning in brawl 2.0
lmao
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