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Are there ANY good gaming news sites?
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My balls
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>>268127053
Siliconera if you like weeaboo games
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CNN is pretty good.
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Eurogamer
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This may be stupid, but I had an idea for a gaming news site. Anyone know how I could possibly get one started?
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>>268127053
/v/ is okay
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>>268127112
>

The gaming universe has expanded beyond consoles in recent years to include players -- many of them women -- of casual and social games such as "FarmVille" and "Candy Crush." According to one survey, 48% of gamers are now female.

>More women also are entering gaming as developers or game reviewers. And increasingly they're speaking out about what they perceive as sexism in the industry.

>"For 30 years now video games have really been perceived as a boys' club. You've had video games made by men, for men," game designer Brianna Wu said this week.


I wonder if Brianna Wu realizes that people don't hate her because she's a female game dev, but because her game looks like and is shit. Wait, of course she realizes this but she hides behind BOO HOO U HATE ME BECAUSE I AM WOMAN
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>>268127727
>Complains about sexualization
>Makes a sexualized cast
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The AV Club.

John Teti's pretty fucking based.
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>>268127727
You see if this came out on the N64 I wouldnt complain.

But its shitty barbie dolls with face tattoos and a literal dial a combo system. I looked into her shit months ago, it was awful and it is beyond me why it's getting any attention now.
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>>268127053
/v/
Seriously, if you ignore the blatant shitposting and read both the rage and the love you can form a general opinion on the game.
/v/ will argue to the death about even the littlest bit of a game even if they are wrong; you get the most information that is the most correct because of it.
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>>268127817
>Anita claims that bayonetta panders to the "fighting fuck toy" trope

it's okay when a woman makes that kind of videogame though, because then it's female empowerment.
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why would you want "gaming news" in the first place?

except for release dates, it's all just pr bullshit
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>>268128016
Funny, that, considering that a woman was in charge of Bayonetta 2.
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>>268128016
But... Bayonetta was created by a woman...
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>>268128184
>>268128174
silly anons she was simply internalizing her misogyny
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>>268127053
NeoGAF
NeoGAF
NeoGAF
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>>268127053
Not even joking IGN.
There rating system is crap.
They talk about games and tell me what you are going to do if you buy it.
Its that one site that just does not want stuff not related to games in it.
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>>268127727

Wait, THAT was made by Brianna Wu??

I was wondering where the fuck she came from in this new debacle
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>>268127112
>"Critiquing sexism in gaming"
>Death threats
Pretty much anyone would see there is something wrong with that picture.

That would be the equivalent to car designers critiquing car safety to the general public.
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Try www.polygon.com
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>>268128307
She's literally a fucking nobody but of course some joke twitter was like lol im gonna kill u eat shit ur gonna die die die die and like EVERY single woman in this whole thing she had to post on twitter that she had to leave her home and contact the authorities
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/pol/ and /v/
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Super Best Friends
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>>268128307
>she
There's something hilarious about a really bad tranny calling misogyny.
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/v/ and youtube
Seriously. I get gaming news from both, I get entertained by /v/, and I give no money to either since I use adblock.
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>gaming news

what do you need to hear besides when a game is coming out and the general opinion of a game (which you can get from /v/, reddit, somethingawful, metacritic, neogaf, literally any place that isn't a "gaming news" website)????
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>>268127215
I've already had a start in making my own site, my problem is how do I advertise it? I'd rather have a decent amount of articles written before it gets any major views though.

>>268127727
>The gaming universe has expanded beyond consoles in recent years to include players -- many of them women -- of casual and social games such as "FarmVille" and "Candy Crush." According to one survey, 48% of gamers are now female.
Those studies mean jack fucking shit. They consider if you play one game ONCE in your entire life, it constitutes you being a gamer. It makes no distinction between the casual mobile phone demographic and the PC/consoles demographic. That study that was done around 2004 or so stated that the most played game for both men and women was solitaire. So playing solitaire that comes with windows constitutes you being a gamer when they play nothing but solitaire? That's why these loaded studies are bogus and are only designed to push an agenda.

>>268127817
Holy shit you are right. People like that do not practice what they preach.

>>268128283
But what if Bayonetta was originally called Bayonet starring a male character but she hated men so much she turned the main character into a strong independent woman who is in control of her sexuality? You can clearly see Bayonetta is nothing but misandry parading around as misogyny to disguise and validate itself.

See the backwards mental gymnastics I can do to justify just about anything?
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>>268127727
>Look up gameplay trailers
>It's fucking Megaman Starforce but at a quarter of the speed and barbie dolls

At least it's a game, right?
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>>268128390
it was himself
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>>268128534
>But what if Bayonetta was originally called Bayonet starring a male character

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydVDyVvwxXM
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/v/ is th FASTEST vidya-news source.
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>>268128624
>Implying I wouldn't play the FUCK out of a Billy Herington action game by Platinum.
>Implying feminists still wouldn't get mad ass fuck and go MUH MALE POWER FANTASY and MUH LACK OF FEMALE EMPOWERMENT
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>>268128624
Fucking hysterical, seriously.
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>>268128319
But if they said a car was unsafe, you'd probably take their word for it.
Also, sexism is relative, a car's ability to function safely is objective.
Also, your analogy is fucking shit.
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>>268128809
It's going to be great when it finally dawns on some of you that there will always be people looking at these things from every possible angle and inevitably any piece of media pisses someone off in some way.
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>>268127053
GayGamer. I shit you not.
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>>268127112
But that's wrong
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>>268129109
GayGamer.net, not .com

.com mis some dude's blog.
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>>268129136
>Secksh for fahvuhrs

You faggots are just determined to undermine your own shit at every turn, huh?
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>>268129320
>undermine
How so? it came straight from the horse's mouth.
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>>268127112
At getting facts wrong and invited biased informers onto there shitty show.
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>>268129320
indie devs and video game bloggers being in bed with one another is undeniable at this point anon.
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>>268129378
>>268129531
Because it makes you seem like you're all still preoccupied with the sex lives of people you don't know.
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>>268129136
>>268129320

Fixed that for you
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>>268128809
>>268128624
>>268128534
If Bayonetta were genderflopped it would be about a domineering sex criminal that pushed his masculinity into everyone's faces by way of flashing his junk to the primarily femenine canonfodder enemies he routinely and viciously attacks, all the while making disgusting lewd, misogynist gestures.
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>>268129627
Pretty good.
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>>268128558
>if you have any kids they're going to die
>i'm going to rape you
Seriously no way that wasn't xerself, who would be retarded enough to threaten a tranny's "children"?
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It might sound insane, but I think Gametrailers has becoe a pretty reliable site lately.
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>>268129858
The kind of person who's also retarded enough to publically show off that they have to leave their home just like anita and zoe
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>>268129953
They barely have news anymore since they layed off a bunch of people.
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>>268127053
I just use gematsu and siliconera.
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>>268127053
Depends on the languages you understand
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/v/
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giant bomb and gaintbomb cast is based as fuck bruhs no sjws there just a few based bruhs with good bantz and takes on games
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>>268132000
Hells no. They are blue pilled as fuck.
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The Guardian's video game section.
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>>268128558
Would you niggers stop with the conspiracy theories unless you have some actual hard evidence?
I'm not even saying that you're wrong but this shit does nothing but damage #GG until actual proper evidence comes out about it.
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Mustard Race
>rockpapershotgun dot com

Other / Lesser Race
>Zero Punctuation
>Siliconera
>Gameinformer
>Giant Bomb
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Siliconera, Gematsu and Dualshockers are all I have in my RSS feed now.
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>>268132072

They've had SJW articles before.
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Neither.

Every site is plagued of sjw and bullshit. They win.

Thanks murica! You are the faggots of games
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>>268132268
Conspiracy theories are literally all GG has. There is no proof of anything.
normally it takes a few years of being ignored for conspiracy nuts to start harassing and threatening their targets, but GG jumped straight to that stage because girls have cooties.
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>>268132425
>RPS
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thanks to all these shit-tier journalist outlets I have saved money by outright not buying any video game because I don't trust their opinions.

THANKS JOURNALISTS FOR DOING THE OPPOSITE OF YOUR JOB
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Siliconera
Gematsu
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>>268127905

John Teti is a faggot and the AV Club is full of sjw hipsters.
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>>268133812
I'm kinda glad it happened. Now they got their own chan where they can shame people for using tumblr or reddit and be mysoginerds and we can have /v/ to not talk about videogames.
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rps and ars, when they're not being casuals
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>>268132425
>RPS
Get the fuck outta here with that shit

>>268132268
There's been plenty of hard evidence anon. These idiots are terrible at covering their tracks. The only thing they're good at is yelling really really loud at everyone, everywhere, all the the time.
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>>268133812
>>268134325
I can't tell if this is bait anymore.
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allgamesbeta
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>>268132268
>>268133812
>>268134325
samefag leave
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>>268134698
>>268134770
Shouldn't you guys be on the other chan and complain about the friendzone?
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metacritic is allright
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>>268132268
>author's voice isn't evidence
>recent, visible, public examples of making Twitter sock puppet accounts is not evidence that LW2 made this sock puppet account too
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>>268134870
But anon, I live with my girlfriend and she's madder at SJWs than I am.
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>>268133812
GG has completely and utterly failed because it continues to preach about wanting fair and ethical gaming journalism without corruption but it's only targets are SJWs

It's "not anti-SJW" but the only things it complains about are SJ and anyone who is a SJW. There has been no attempt to target corruption, only an attempt to target SJWs.

Now GG spends it's days trying to prove it's innocence instead of actually DOING anything. Practically everything said on the hashtag be a GG supporter is in defense. They have no point to make. Just "we're not bad guys"

Okay, you're not bad. Now what? What do you wanna say?
>f-fuck polygon

Oh wow, great job. It's just "fuck SJWs" again. That's all it's ever been. And the entire time you said it wasn't, but nobody did shit when it was revealed youtubers were paid for coverage, nor did you do anything to change how actual big game companies felt about coverage, nor did you try to undermine or target ANYONE other than SJWs.

I don't like SJWs either, but the movement is a fucking joke, and for every 1 person with a half-decent point, you've got 1000 goddamn edgy kids who haven't got a fucking clue throwing shit everywhere and crying about liberals.

Just look at the reaction from that shit Hatred game. It didn't matter that it looked like a dull twinstick shooter at all to these morons, they just wanted to buy it because of "SJW tears."

Ethics my fucking arse.
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>>268134870
Do you argue all your points with insults are are you just this uninformed?
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>>268134870
>implying that anyone other than the SJWs is making this issue about muhsoggyknee
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>>268134870
Yeah! You show those misogynist neckbeard shitlords sister!
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Why even use these site ever?
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>>268135054
Yeah yeah "your girlfriend" Is she like Vivian James an imaginary girl you shitlords made up to agree with you?
>>268135109
>>268135135
Keep crying! Moot banned you guys for a reason. You're not welcome on 4chan anymore.
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>>268135063
>implying corruption wasn't exposed and assholes weren't BTFO with gamejournopros debacle and based mom destroying Leigh Alexander.
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>>268135279
>!

Who are you trying to fool, anon?
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>>268135063
Oh boy, more "#gg lost" horse shit.

>There has been no attempt to target corruption, only an attempt to target SJWs
Not-so-subtle cry of harassment to deflect from the issue.

>Just look at the reaction from that shit Hatred game
Why? That has nothing to do with GG.
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>>268135279
>Keep crying!

Excellent counterargument
Moot should ban you. The minimum age has been 18 for a while, dude
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>>268135279
No, she's a girl I have been dating for 4 years.
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Please no more GamerGate its made bait posting increase 300%
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>ITT faGGots still mad about being BTFO

Go back to your dead chan already :^)
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>>268135319
>BTFO
>DESTROYING Leigh Alexander

Wow all the game journalists were DESTROYED and BTFO which is weird because nothing is different only it's even easier now for them to talk about "issues" instead of games because all the movement did was make it look like there was a serious problem with gamers and they were right all along.
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>>268135279
>shitlords
>!
That bait.
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Reminder to ignore GG shitposters and report their posts. We fought them off when they allied with tumblr and reddit and made them go to otherchan.

Don't let cancer back in. Pic related.

GGfags are trying to sneak their way back in with reddit and tumblr.
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>>268135565
Most of those youtube channels aren't even news and half of them aren't even opinion videos. The youtube section shouldn't even be there.
Matthewmatosis for example has said nothing whatsoever on this issue, he's not automatically on your side
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>>268135651
>We fought them off

Who are "you"?
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>>268133576
>Dualshockers
http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/10/14/bayonetta-2s-over-sexualization-complaint-a-perfect-example-of-whats-wrong-with-modern-reviews/

>Authors are departing from the idea of giving their readers a fair assessment of a game’s quality, and are increasingly using reviews as their personal soapbox, or as a high horse on which to sit to educate the allegedly unschooled gaming masses on whatever personal agenda they happen to support, and to “punish” those game developer that happen to produce games that don’t fit said agendas.
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>>268127053
No.
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>>268135572
That, and advertisers are pulling support, more people are being discouraged from visiting those sites and anyone not in to SJ shit are being alienated even more.
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>>268135721
/v/ vidya games

now fuck off back to otherchan GGfags
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>>268135704
This pick doesn't seem to be about sides. I don't know where you're getting this from.
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>>268127053
People might argue with GamerGate about their purpose but not many disagree with them about gaming journalism being corrupt not even on twitter
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>>268134965
>person makes a sock puppet
>therefore this other account must be a sock puppet
No anon, that isn't evidence. If you think it is take this to a news outlet to get it reported and see what they say.
>>268134671
>There's been plenty of hard evidence anon
Can you share some please? The majority of what I've seen consists of "if you look at this in a certain way then you can tell this person didn't send it" and then proceeds to make a massive logical jump in that because said person didn't send it that it must have been made by the personal complaining about being harassed.

Again I'm not saying any of this is wrong but if you want to convince more moderate / neutral people to the whole thing then better evidence would be beneficial.
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>>268135764
>and anyone not in to SJ shit are being alienated even more

So you admit >>268135063 was right and all you care about is SJ and not "ethics"
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Sure, if you're not an American.

What the heck is wrong with you.
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>>268135790
I'm not sure what you're talking about, anon. /v/ didn't fight anything. Threads got deleted, but discussions continued.

Now they're not being deleted as quickly and they happen anyway. I dare say the only time GG debates really kick up is when you people...and I do mean those like you specifically... try to shift arguments to GG boogiemen, at which point you get called out and start crying.
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>>268135862
He meant "people into SJ shit are being alienated" idiot. Nice nitpick.
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I've been sticking to gamefaqs reviews for the last 10 years. Seems to have worked better than the alternatives.
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>>268127053
Here >>
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>>268135704

God fucking dammit. THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT is that these are gaming sites/channels that report/review games without having unethical relationships with the developers.
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>>268136074
But we did fight. IRC chat made sure to report and email moot about your daily shitposting and voila. He finally made a stickyt saying you faggots are cancer and are not wanted.

We want vidya games not your GG cancer movement.

You have a whole other deadchan for that.
Stay there instead of waiting for janitors to be asleep to try and post here.

Most of your threads devolve into telling you guys to fuck off anyways.
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>>268135565
>jontron
>totalbiscuit
I love how these two guys pretend as if they know anything about game design. It's really from the perspective of a five year old kid and not with any regard to real life.
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>curiousand check out kotaku
>see one of the headlines for their articles
>Thousands Rally Online Against Gamegate

Holy shit. Not just CNN but Kotaku too? You guys are getting BTFO everywhere

Laughing at feminist cunts and now you guys are the greatest entertainment, too bad you guys are banned on 4chan from posting. I could use more laughs.
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>>268136390
as opposed to /v/ who always have valid criticism?
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>>268136284
The sticky is gone.

>make shit up about GG being a raiding party
>raid your own site on IRC

Way to go fucking hypocrite idiot.
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>>268136284
lel

No you didn't. Moot made a move and it happened. There's no need to tell lies on the internet.
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>>268136437
Thousands of bots
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>>268136437
>thinking an article on Kotaku means fucking anything
fuck off shill
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>>268136437
Fuck off shill
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>>268136437
>Visiting kotaku
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>>268136545
>>268136513
>reporting threads that arent vidya and using 4chan IRC is raiding

GGfags ladies and gentleman. Also he took the sticky down because most of you fuckers are staying on deadchan. Just a few of you like to try and weasel your way back in.

Just fuck off. You guys are cancer for allying with reddit and tumblr and trying to bring them here.
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>>268136390
>I love how these two guys pretend as if they know anything about game design.

So, like most of 4chan?
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>>268136584
It does now that they shut you the fuck up. They can properly antagonize you and steer people against you. You just embarrassed yourself and it is hilarious.
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>>268136390

Their targeted audience is more of the "casual" crowd, not that there is anything wrong with it. I don't watch much Jontron, but TotalBiscut really just gives his opinions on games (as well as some controversies) and is an outspoken supporter of transparency and is very much against unethical relationships between reviewers/gaming press and developers. I disagree with some of his opinions and analysis, but I can at least trust that he has a fair opinion about whatever he is reviewing (even if he is more... casual about it).

Do people not understand that having a targeted audience you don't belong to≠bad?
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>>268136238
Do you think any of those sites/youtubers would be there if they expressed a "SJW" opinion? Even if it was their own? Even if it had nothing to do with them being "corrupt"? "Unethical"?

Those gaming sites are just as CORRUPT with links to PR as any other. They're only "better" because they haven't expressed any SJW opinions and upset all the edgy kids.
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>>268136580
Don't forget ISIS
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>>268136850
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>>268136697
It seems more like you're rumproasted that people talk about things you don't want them to talk about. Videogame related things, at that.
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>>268136757
Fuck off shill.
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Gaming as a whole would improve so much if you fuckers would stop taking game criticism personally.

Jesus it's pathetic.
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>>268136757
>thinking kotaku can do anything but stir up a hornet's nest
>shut you the fuck up
>pic related
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>>268136545
>>268136284
>Approving of Cencorship
>On 4chan
If people didn't hate tripfags so much, you'd be the first to put on a trip.

Why are newfags so loud this year?
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>>268127053
No. 4chan was the last bastion. It's over,
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>>268136940
What.
No, seriously.
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>>268137007
>muh freedom of hatespeech
fuck off
4chan was never a bastion of free speech and I don't know where you people get this from.
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>>268137083
Yes goyim, no discussion of GG, no discussion of video game industry, only shekels now.
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>>268136940
>PriceofFootball
This is bread right
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>>268137007
>>268136945
Except after you left with your GG and vivian shit thisplace had more vidya threads then every before. We finally ended the shitposting era.

Sm4sh and Aliens was released and vidya was reborn.

Speaking of vivian, still cracks me up that you tried changing her outfit after moving to otherchan.
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>>268137139
>Hatespeech

Which never fucking happened.

moot literally made some bullshit up about the threads telling people to doxx. Which was blatantly wrong.

Go back to SA.
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>>268137139
Don't forget your trigger warnings before you say bad words, anon.
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>>268137139
>never a bastion of freespeech
get the fuck out of here newfag
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>>268137224
Who the fuck cares? 4chan was never about free speech, ever.

Ever.
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>>268137216
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>>268137216
>ended the shitposting era.
What is all thoose bans then?
HUH?!
I SEE 4 /v/ shitpostin bans today
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Yes it's
nudify-her dot com
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>>268136983
>expecting children to stop being children
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>>268137232
>>268137224
>>268137238
>>268137156
Fuck off GGfags. Go fucking bathe in your "freespeech" in otherchan. You can also post CP there.

No reason to continue shitposting here.
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>>268137139
How fucking new are you.
It's only in the last couple of years that certain rules have been enforced.
Hell, you can still see people chatting about being pedos.
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>>268137254
Except moot called /pol/ a "bastion of free speech" once.

There's a screencap of it somewhere.
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>>268137216
And we also have a continuing stream of threads like these that never left.

The fact we're here discussing it tears your point a new asshole.
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>>268137349
If you can get banned from /pol/, it isn't free speech.
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>>268136940
That tag died such a pitiful death
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>>268137216
wait did they really try and change her outfit? so they donated all that money and tried changing her outfit cause they got BTFO of 4chan?
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>>268137331
You're the one shitposting, anon.
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>>268136847

The majority of gaming sites (wisely) decided to stay out of the SJW-GG stuff, but that has almost nothing to do with how ethical the websites are.

Your generalization that they have "links to PR" is definitely false. Can you give any real reason to believe that Siliconera has any sort of conflict of interest? What about DualShockers? DSOGaming?
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>>268137407
Tell me one political stance that will get you banned there.
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>>268137347
>>268137238
>>268137007
>this is the first time anything has been deleted from the site
>what is the dozens of boards that have been removed from the site over the years

Maybe you'd like to point be to the /l/olicon or /g/uro board that exists now?
How about /fur/, /new/, /q/, or any of the text boards?
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>StopGamerGate2014
What? Stop? What are they going to do, shoot people who criticize Gawker media?
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>>268137331
>Siliconera
>implying that a FUCKING ANONYMOUS MESSAGE BOARD isn't about free speech
How fucking stupid/bad of a troll are you anon.
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Siliconera, gematsu.

IGN if you also like capeshit and comic books. IGN is not that bad outside the casual reviews.
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>>268137526
that confuses Nationalism with ones cultural Identity.
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>>268137601
It was funny as hell all they did was boost GG and never got above it
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>>268137530
also report people announcing their reports
and kotaku viral marketers
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>>268137526
The political party devoted to posting CP.
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What makes PCGamer great is their objectivity and zero-bullshit policy. They don't go on about sexism or whatever in video games, they just review how fun it is to play the game. They never go into irrelevant gaming "culture" topics or e-celeb e-drama, they just report the news that's relevant to PC gamers. They never publish serious clickbait, there's the occasional "our top 17 best games featuring dogs!" article, but these are rare and very easy to avoid.

Too bad the new website design is ugly as fuck, but at least the RSS feeds remain untouched.
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>>268137216
>Smash threads
>dark souls threads,
>"this is a PS4 game, whoa".

Things went back to business as usual. Oh I forgot we have Dragon Age threads and Hatred threads now. Truly the end of an era.
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>>268137709
Streisand effect.

The only reason it doesn't go away is because they keep trying to fight it instead of letting it fizzle out. The whole thing took off because of people trying to censor discussion.
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>>268127727
>"many of them women -- of casual and social games such as "FarmVille" and "Candy Crush." According to one survey, 48% of gamers are now female."

What's interesting to me is that they constantly roll out this 48% figure taken from casual games when they want to make a point about how many women are in the community now, but these are people the sites themselves are largely ignoring. 9 out of 10 gaming sites are not writing articles about shit like Candy Crush and Farmville and casual games that actually has these female players.

They use the casual audience to make their sexism point, then totally ignore it when it comes to actually producing site content.
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>>268133812
Conspiracy theories for GG, illogical assumptions and conclusions for journalists and feminists.

The whole thing is idiotic. Not one shred of it is decent or intelligible.
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>>268137730
We all know "posting CP" isn't a political party but im going to entertain you regardless.

They're forced to remove it under state law.
Its true, you can't have a perfect bastion of free speech, but at least it comes close.
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>>268128534
>these models
PENDEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS
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>>268137709
and the idiots kept tweeting Gamergate as they were tweeting Stopgamergate
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>>268137802
>DA:I

I just want the game to be out so we can stop pretend-shilling and start mocking it.
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>>268137887
My point is and always has been that moot is the ultimate decider here for what stays and what goes. No one else. Moot, and his team of mods.

There's no accountability. There's no court. You can't complain that your free speech is being suppressed and have someone do something about it, because no one else cares. There's only moot.

Hence my point that it isn't "free speech" - just tolerated by the site admins.
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>>268138009
>moot being a faggot who betrays the principles he made /pol/ under somehow makes it acceptable.
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>>268135735
>http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/10/14/bayonetta-2s-over-sexualization-complaint-a-perfect-example-of-whats-wrong-with-modern-reviews/
I don't get your post, you seem to be against dualshockers, but that article gives more reason to support it
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>>268138105
But its true
You have a irresponsible, lowly-beta admin.
This is 4chan as it has always been.
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>>268137863
Good point.

And another thing these triumphant articles neglect: why are females relegated mostly to Facebook shovelware? Why are they brushing gendered games under the carpet? Why should taste in games differ between the sexes?
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Still on about this? It's way past August now, how can you still be throwing a fit? If you spent just 10% of the time and effort you've put into this "debacle" on self improving your sad sack of shit life, I guarantee you would no longer care about this. Let it go, it's over.
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>>268136390
>It's really from the perspective of a five year old kid and not with any regard to real life.
I love how you pretend as if you know anything about other people life.
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>>268137786

I decided to look at the website just to see for myself, and found an article about the Anita Sarkeesian thing:

http://www.pcgamer.com/anita-sarkeesian-cancels-university-talk-after-school-shooting-threat/

It was written quite objectively. I am sold.
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>>268138009
Pretty bad too as moot has time and time again fucked up horribly everytime he tried to do anything involving policing 4chan.
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>>268138105
/pol/ was made as a containment board for retards, what are you on about
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>>268138105
I don't think you understood what I said...
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>>268132072
The guardian is shit and can go fuck themselves
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>>268138179
Everybody deserves a reply newfriend :)
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RPS is good and has funny humors
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>>268132425
>RPS
>master race

Never drag the master race into such filth ever again, anon

u cheeky cunt I cut u m8
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>>268135565
no...
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>>268138337
>NOIGEL FARRIDGE FOR PM
>'E JUS' WANTS A POINT IN A PUB, IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK
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>>268138302
/pol/ was made as an edgy lulz board, because /new/ wasn't working.

Speaking of new...
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>>268138414
RPS is fucking awesome
I dont need to pretend otherwise
to impress a bunch of cynical hypocrites with mommy issues
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>>268137526
I like this pic.
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>>268138467
Yes to contain all the retards spilling from /new/
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>>268138530
>RPS
>awesome

Please leave. Seriously i don't care if you're trolling just go.
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>>268138530
>rps is awesome
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>the unethical and corrupt gaming websites are the ones that have SJW articles, but that's a coincidence
>the websites that do not have SJW articles are clean and uncompromised and show no conflict of interest, this is also a coincidence
>this is about ethics and isn't about being anti-feminist or anti-SJW

Who are you kidding? Any site which gets games in advance from PR companies linked to advertisers, which is ALL OF THEM then they're "compromised"

And yet the only 'bad guys' GG cares about are any that expressed a SJW opinion.
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>>268138530
the shills are out in full force today it seems...
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>>268135860
A person makes a sock puppet to make the opposing side look bad, then shortly after an account appears that makes the opposing side look bad, and the person in question calls tons of attention to it and reports on it within minutes if it being posted.
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though its mostly for older games, try hardcore gaming 101. good stuff
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>>268138751
Shill pls.
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O right if I want ethics I'll take a philosophy class.
And everyone there will be smarter than you gamergate wannabes
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>>268138751
It's funnier to rile up SJW

>imblying half the people involved aren't just there for the lulz
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NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU THINK GAMERGATE
TAKE YOUR BITCH ASSES BACK TO TWITTER WHERE YOU BELONG
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>>268128512
I bet mommy is proud
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>>268138751
>Articles that show their political opinion instead of an article are corrupt
WHO KNEW?
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>>268138751
Uh no, sites making bullshit inflated reviews due to PR relations have been getting called out for a long time now. Somebody missed the gamespot Kane and Lynch debacle.
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>>268132072

> looking at anything in the Guardian other than the proper news reporting

Guardian news: Snowden scoop, Trafigura scoop, Phone Hacking scoop

Guardian videogames: random bullshit farmed out to SJW's to drive traffic to the website through controversy

Bet the editor is laughing his ass off at the stuff they're pushing
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>>268137786
>>268138236
They are so objective and publish such high-quality articles because they're ACTUAL JOURNALISTS
PCG is one of the last gaming paper magazines. People actually subscribe to it and pay them money and in return receive a physical magazine to their homes every month. Most articles on PCG's website are just articles they published on the previous issue. Since they write to an actual audience on an real journalistic platform they hold themselves up to journalistic standards.
I really wish more people would read PCG. It's one of the best gaming websites out there, period. Especially for consoleless games like me, since they automatically filter out all the peasant shit and release PC-oriented content you rarely find on other gaming sites (shit like hardware reviews and mod spotlights). They're also not plebs and actually talk about strategy games and Dwarf Fortress.
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>>268138964
Do you realize that you're only fueling the discussion?
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>>268127727
Speaking of Revolution 60
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>>268139071
lol that 1997 modeling
>beautiful
>2014
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>>268138150
Oh I'm in support of dualshockers. Loads of actual news, few opinion pieces and regular invitations for community discussion. I just wanted something pithy to show how grounded their writers are.
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>>268138853
>Noko
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>>268138751
Bollocks. I've been whining about obvious bribery within the industry for years.
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>>268127053
RPS is pretty good
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>>268138751
>all the replies proving this post right
GG is shit

>>268139048
I remember it. Where was GG then? Nobody did shit. GG only happened because of SJWs and feminists, and GG is an anti-feminist anti-SJW movement no matter how much they insist it isn't.
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>>268138964
That's sexist language. The word 'bitch' may trigger some.
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HOLY SHIT GAME ADVERTISING SITES GETTING PAID TO ADVERTISE GAMES.
THATS LIKE A GROCERY STORE SELLING FOOD FOR MONEY!
MUH CORRUPTION
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>>268137232
>>268137224
>>268137007
>>268136545

> have a tantrum and move to the otherplace yelling about how 4chan is going to collapse any day now
> realise that there are only about 150 of you each posting once a minute
> gradually seep back in occasionally taking shots at 'le moot' while dodging the hot pockets

Christ when will it end. That entire GG thing should have moved to it's own dedicated website about 2 weeks in when it became clear how long it was going to go on for
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>>268139580
nanoshilling at the speed of light
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>>268139605
GG happened because of the Streisand effect.

>and GG is an anti-feminist anti-SJW movement no matter how much they insist it isn't.
I'm a feminist. I prefer the term egalitarian because it more accurately frames this point of view, but there we are.
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>>268139605
>Anti-feminist Anti-SJW
Yes to a point they are.
Is that supposed to be bad?
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CHANOLOGY CANCERS
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>>268139809
MORE LIKE THE SAMEFAG EFFECT
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>>268138530
>RPS is fucking awesome

Yeah maybe about 5 years ago when Gillen was running the site. It's been going downhill rapidly since that smug prick Walker decided to turn it into his blog
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>>268138751
Well no shit, that's what I've been saying from the beginning. If GamerGate really is about "journalistic integrity" and "ethics" it would've been triggered by Kane & Lynch, not some whore sleeping around.

And I SUPPORT GamerGate. I don't like SJWs invading and colonizing our hobby for the own agenda. I don't like the complete disconnect between the gaming public and gaming journalism. I don't like how games are now being reviewed based on their SJW-friendliness more than their quality. I just wish GG would stop pretending it's something else.

For that matter, I really wish the anti-GG people stop pretending it's something else either. Stop with the MUH HARASSMENT.
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>>268140019
Good thing I don't need some woman fearing fascist to tell me where to read gaming news lol
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>>268138467
>/pol/ was made as an edgy lulz board, because /new/ wasn't working.
Confirmed for newfag. Moot shut down /new/ and then made /pol/ later on.
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What's with all this "where was GG then?" bullshit

GG happened, it wasn't planned, now we have it, stop acting like the way it started makes it authomatically flawed or something
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>>268138236
Written quite objectively? Did you read the same article? Coz the one you linked to says
>GamerGate is ostensibly a hashtag protesting unethical practices in games journalism. In reality, it is a noxious and confused movement that has been directly responsible for the harassment of multiple industry and media figures, the majority of which have been women.
Doesnt sound objective to me m80
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>>268140213
Truth hurts
there arent two sides to everything
there is a right side and a wrong side
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>>268139605
Holy shit how stupid/new are you? It was a fucking shit show. Gamespot lost their credibility entirely and they still feeling the repercussions from it today.

Where was GG? It was 2007, twitter was barely a year old and no one gave a shit about it and youtube was still filled with shitty postage stamp sized cat videos.

tl;dr: get the fuck outta here
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>>268140306
isnt that two sides?
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>>268140185
but GG is pretty much dead

it happened, it wasnt planned, and now its dead
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>>268140306
I still have not seen any evidence of harassment except from the Twitter-Gawker clique.
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GG completely lost all direction and merit as soon as all it started doing was crying about being bullied

>tweet abuse/accusations at game journos in constant waves
>some say "fuck off"
>screencapped and reposted as PROOF OF HARASSMENT

Fucking kids, man. Is this supposed to get me on your side? Some journo said something mean to you? So fucking what, I didn't jump to Anita's side just because I saw thread after thread calling her an ugly dumb whore cunt who should die of rape here on /v/
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You cant even get your ideas on fourchan
go create a twitter account and agree with yourself since no one else will
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>>268139809
>GG happened because of the Streisand effect.

No, GG literally happened because a bunch of faggots on /v/ hate SJWs and saw it as their opportunity to get them out of gaming. If they care at all about "corruption", it is secondary. Everyone knows this. There's a reason they only talk about and go after SJW journalists and not other corrupt journalists.
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>>268140430
maybe you should start reading real games journalism sites or just the new york times.
fucking attention whores
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>>268140306
>there arent two sides
You mean there aren't two sides you agree with.
Saying there isnt two sides to everything is a brilliant way to instantly devalue someone else's argument and cop out of having to actually consider someone else's point of view so you can stay in your echo chamber.
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>>268140120

>You have to be a woman fearing fascist to notice the quality of a site is in freefall

ok... enjoy paying your special subscription or whatever it is they're doing now to delay the inevitable
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>>268139843
>Yes to a point they are

It's their primary reason for existing, not "to a point".
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>>268140501
No it happened because a bunch of newfags dont know what NYPA means
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I'll repeat

>Huffington Post is talking about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtzrUsi6Y1s [Embed]

>BBC is talking about it
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29626809
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29616197

>Twitter and other social media sites allow discussion about it
>Even Reddit stopped the mass banning

BUT ITS

TOO EXTREME FOR 4CHAN
O
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>>268140306

I really wish you had tried harder.
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>>268140426
>>268140426
>ur wrong
and ur a faget
See >>268137000
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>>268140609
that was clearly a bullshit excuse. No one actually believed moots post.
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>>268127053
i like gamespot

kotaku sounds japanese to me so i dont like it
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>>268140426
Ok
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>>268129097
>finally dawns on some of you
If the new Dragon Age has proved anything, its that pandering to the fucking SJW crowd is impossible as any concession you give is literally rape.
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>>268140681
why moot did it?
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>>268140525
Evidence, not accusations written by those with an axe to grind.
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>>268137000
O god here come the bullshit infographics again
next thing you know he will be quoting voltaire and cicero
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>>268127053

Gamer UK
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>>268140120

I too enjoy articles written by hipsters who think that tenuously connecting a social issue to a video game will make them a 'culture critic'
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>>268140765
"Because it affected one of his friends" was the excsue. I forget why exactly, tough.
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>>268138467
At first there was /n/, but it was closed by moot and turned into a board about trains. Then moot opened /new/, but it slowly overflowed with stormfags. Moot closed it in an attempt to remove the tumor, but instead all the stormfaggotry spread across 4chan. So he created /pol/ as a containment board. That's where the "politically incorrect" comes from, /pol/ was created with the explicit purpose of containing /pol/tards in one board.
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>>268140695
So basically the exact same samefags who started this gargabe are the same ones keeping it going?
Also use a real analytics site
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>>268136437
>declares "gamer" as a dead identity and effectively alienates every fucking casual on the planet as a means of SJW solidarity
>48 hours go by and its back to calling shit gamer reated

Of all the site on the internet, I think Shitaku is the most forthright with their lack of pride and dignity.
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>>268140441
You fucking moron it lost direction the second moot banned discussion of it. /v was the driving force of GG and once it was banned all hope if it going anywhere was lost and it dissolved into SJW shit flinging all over again.
Fuck moot fuck the mods fuck this shit industry where the consumer can get shit on all day and anyone who fights back is completely fucked
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>>268140784
Seems to me like gamergate is the ones throwing around all the unfounded accusations and grinding axes
O right you posted a fake line graph and a misattributed quote MUH EVIDENCE!
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>>268140794
voltaire and cicero are GOAT go back to reading sylvia plath and margaret atwood
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>>268140946
Oh yeah, a dozen of samefags tweeted more than one million times about the same things in almost 3 months
Great detective skills

>>268140765
>>268140849
>>268140609
Reminder that 4chan's chensoring of GG is being used by SJWs and news sites as an excuse to show how "horrible" it is
>Even 4chan, the cathedral of misogyny hates it!
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>>268137216
>#GG replaced by blatant shills
>this is better
/v/ hasn't been remotely good since fucking post 2008, nigger.
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>>268140925
>To this day, the stormfaggots still act like a free moralfag shield
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>>268137216
vivian is something I would have drawn in 5th grade.
>LOL she looks just like the pokemanz
I'll never get what the fuck the hype was about, some dumb fuck drew some dumb bitch? and now we won? ok.
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>>268140849
yeah and you guys spamming his email the day before had nothing to do with anything lol
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>>268141063
You still have not addressed the fact that I have yet to see even a single piece of evidence showing harassment from GG supporters, whereas I have seen tens of instances of harassment and threats from Gawkerists.
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>>268141183
>lol
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>>268136697
>You guys are cancer for allying with reddit and tumblr and trying to bring them here.

I actually ran into a GG faggot the other day that tried to claim that they were only "kidding" about welcoming Reddit and tumblr and that all posts relating to it were "ironic". He was that desperate to deny that GG opened the door for all kinds of cancer.
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>>268141140
But we do hate it
Its obvious this is sameposting
because your 'ideas' were never good enough to survive a converssation
just copypastas and calling shills is all you can do.
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>>268141150

>everyone who isn't behind Gamergate is a shill

This is precisely the kind of attitude that made me hate you faggots.
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>>268141235
ok and your post is evidence of you being a cynical hypocrite
did you see that?
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>>268141235
>You still have not addressed the fact that I have yet to see even a single piece of evidence showing harassment from GG supporters

That's because every time someone points it out, you guys go "it wasn't us". Every time someone points out how retarded you're being or how you did something stupid, you just claim it wasn't you. That's awfully convenient.
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>>268141337
>we
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>>268141480
It's not their fault they cant afford college
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>>268141270
>opened the door for all kinds of cancer.

i've posted this at least a hundred times but

again

this is not 2008

this ship sailed years before you likely even lurked or posted here, and the site hasn't been the same since, it's certainly not recent, and any recent influx is nothing in comparison to that year and the years after wherein moot made this into his social playground to get some pussy
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>>268141426
What are you on about? Still refusing to address my point, I see.

>>268141480
Where has it been pointed out? Point it out yourself if you have to.

>retarded
Ableist scum.
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>>268141480
That's because whenever you claim it was you, it happens that you were playing victim and the person who posted it was himself/herself
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>>268135651
>>268135721
>>268136284
>>268136697
Daily reminder that this is a SJWer shill who is shitting up 4chan far worse than GG did. You best get rid of them now before they attack things you actually care about.

>They came for the video games, and I said nothing because I don't play video games
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>>268141567
Can barely samepost fast enough to keep up with all this awesome support 4chan gives you huh?
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>>268141375
The threads about games have increase by volume but by quality? that fucking LotR game, the aliens game, fucking anything that was a week pre and post launch has been fucking viraled to shit, you fucking nigger. Check the the archives. Its unapologetic and somehow being advertised to is better than the discussion of ethics in the sad state of vidya journalism.

i recognize that /v/ was always shit but still. Fuck you and the god damn high horse you rode in on.
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Companies like EA and Ubisoft are well known for buying reviews. They been recently accused of paying off. LPers,but since they aren't woman or feminist GG don't care about them.
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>>268141375
saying sites like kotaku and rps are good when they have been shown to be objectively bad means you're a shill.

someone who says they aren't with GG because they don't give a shit is okay with me.
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>>268141375
Maybe you shouldn't sound exactly like the shills and people won't mistake you for one
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>>268141652
Actually we'd rather and report and derail these threads and laugh in the irc at you while we do!
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Why has no one mentioned Gather Your Party? Are they shit now or something?
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>>268141480
Every single threat comes from anonymous sources and accounts
The emails that threaten Anita weren't even published
None of the threats even mention GG
Some of them sound like woman power-fantasies with a sparkle of Twilight/50 Shades or grey
>Anita, you're so beautiful, i want to taste your blood
You use few threats to demonstrate thousands of users are behind it
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>>268141270
You are an idiot if you think that GG brought more newfags in than the fappening.
But you know what? I'll even admit that GG welcomed leddit and tumblr. It needed more people to know about it and get pissed. It brought a shit ton of faggots here and is probably why this site is so fucking shit. But I'd do it again if I could. I would burn this site to the fucking ground if it had even the slightest chance of saving vidya
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>>268141693
Yeah they will have a riot over depression quest but diablo 3 gets 9/10 out of the gate and noone gives a shit about that
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>>268141667
4chan stopped being relevant about this matter the day the discussions about it were banned
Faggot
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>>268141693
That makes it OK then!
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>>268141825
What about the IRC that gamergate themselves releasead and it talks about doxing sluts over 500 times and justice and ethics like 12 in 3 days?
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>>268141750
Except you're doing an excellent job of keeping the topic about GG.
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>>268141750
A shill is a shill, unless you're a goon, then you're just a hack.


>>268141825
Also don't forget the police verified the threats weren't valid and a reminder that only idiots publish their death threats since it impedes the policy investigation.
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nichegamer.net
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>>268141952
What?
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is e-mailing advertisers to pull out of sites also censorship in a way or a legitimate way to express dissatisfaction?
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>>268141983
>Also don't forget the police verified the threats weren't valid and a reminder that only idiots publish their death threats since it impedes the policy investigation.
Exactly, i'm sure Utah university and others will never try to contact Anita again since now she's going to news outlets complaining they didn't gave her presidential security with metal detectors and shit

>>268141952
There's no such thing
And who was even doxxed? GG-ers are
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>>268141983
Sure keep saying that and maybe someone will believe it
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>>268141952
All false flags because who could possibly dox themselves and pretend to be a user on a chat that doesn't have identities?
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>>268142041
They were IRC posts direct linked or screen capped by the Fellbeast herself. Amazingly, no one saw this as even the little bit suspicious.
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>>268142152
What gamergate clown was doxxed?
do you even know what these words mean?
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>>268142183
>those ham-fingers
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>>268142145
It's perfectly legitimate, if you complain that not being paid for your opinion is censorship it shows you're in just for the money and not for actual activism or whatever you think you're doing
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>>268142183
Why is she looking up?
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>>268141952
That IRC wasn't the hub of Gamrgate, the hib of gamergate was the GG threads on /v/ itself.

A few people wen there, and they controlled nothing.
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>>268142145
It's a way of boycotting, no one is stopping you from going to those sites and posting.
Except for the site itself if they ban and delete your post if you disagree with them.
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>>268142183
Right sow me where in that IRC log where you guys are talking about journalistic ethics
meanwhile ill controll f for slut and see what number shows up
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>>268142260
Lots get threats, very often, you obviously wouldn't know unless you get on Twitter
I have no example saved atm
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>>268142260
Some devs were doxxed and lost their fucking jobs you piece of shit. People who actually contribute to the industry are blacklisted because of your faggotry.
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>>268142332
You mean the the threads where every op listed the IRC and the links to wannabe chan?
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There are no good review sites because none of them are YOU. YOU are the only one that can decide if a game is good or not. Don't listen to someone that isn't you tell you if you should like a game or not.

You want a review site? Try the Pirate Bay.
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It's kind of amusing to watch this whole gamergate shitstorm. There's a few people who really want to combat corrupt journalism and then there's this huge amount of whiny manchildren who decided to tag along and endlessly complain about SJW and feminism without realizing that they are undermining the work of the few sane supporters.
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>>268129627
There is noithing to defend, tough.

Feminism itself is not a threat to Video game.

It's bad journalism and flagging people who critic theam as anti-feminist that cause problem.
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>>268142446
Yeah but i actually can prove you guys threatened yourselves.
And I can also prove you threatened these people
but keep saying no
I have all month for this
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If 4chan actually kept having GG threads, I have a feeling it would have died off by now.
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>>268142332
Isn't that kinda the problem? No one can actually say that the GG didn't doxx or harass anybody. Since all the threads got deleted. It pretty much comes down to their words for rando anon words. Who is the public going to believe?
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>>268142554
Welcome to every cause ever. Jesus, are kids that dumb these days?
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>>268127053
www.n4g.com
your welcome
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>>268142478
An IRC where everyone could log.

And the Thread where any attempt to make it about ZOe and turning it in an harassment campaign was called out out and reported
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>>268142175
http://www.usu.edu/ust/index.cfm?article=54178

Ha
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>>268142626
They are still archived.
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>>268142332
>the hib of gamergate was the GG threads on /v/ itself.
I would like to think all the /v/ chatter was more or lress isolated while most of the discussion happed on twitter.
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Im kinda late ain't i?

http://kazerad.tumblr.com/post/96703506118/this-excerpt-from-a-4chan-post-really-sums-up-what
So, with this being posted

>Rallying Tumblr/Reddit here
Where? I have not seen a single post that is doing that.

>Sending Death Threats
Where? I have not seen a single post that wasn't disaproved.
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Hey /v/

>Post your face when the Hot pocket eating SJWer mods are leaving this thread up thinking their SJWer buddies and shills will be able to shout down gamers, and will delete it the moment we crush them, again.

Only cowards cut and run
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>>268142525
I just want a description of how the gameplay is, general plot of the story and maybe visuals before buying a game.
A trailer of the game most of the time describes this, but companies always make them better than it actually is.
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>>268142792
No. /v/ tried to organize measured answers. to twitter posts.
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>>268135063
Fucking THIS so hard
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Is gamesradar considered a shit? They've done okay stuff but they also seem to shit out garbage articles all the time.
I miss cheatplanet.
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www.HistoryofGamergate.com
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>>268142626
The threads are being archived in a lot of places besides fourchan
and your ircs are wide open too
The difference between gg and anti gg
anti doesnt need 4chan to organize
and you can exist without it
anti actually has training in this stuff
you have some fake lawyer and a guy telling you how people mapped ports 5 years ago
Anti has Time, NYT and the entire gaming press except for nintendo power
you have a thread you cant keep up and a twitter circle jerk.
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>>268142947
Either way GL
If you stop now I lose money
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>it's not about feminism! or SJWs! it's about ethics!
>absolutely every person behind GG hates Anita and SJWs and their only targets are sites or journalists who mention feminism or SJ

Coincidence?
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Daily reminder that Twitter shitters mailed Milo Whatshisname needles filled with mystery substances with a clear desire to intimidate.
Daily reminder that Twitter shitters have doxxed and harassed tens of people and their workplaces.
Daily reminder that Leigh Alexander dislikes black people yet runs a company whose main business is telling others what huge bigots they are.
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>>268142947
No
We have scholars, lots of websites, Breitbart, BBC, HuffingTon post, WikiLeaks, one of the girls who spoke on HuffPostLive is going to be interviewed by CBC, and the CNN article too admitted GG can't be blamed for the threats

Fag
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>>268143058
Characters, designers, journos Gamergate fears strong women
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>>268143058
>All the corrupt fuckers somehow are internet activists obsessed with feminism and Anita

Coincidence? It's them that made it about it
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>>268143104
Meanwhile you try to run a lynch mob doing the exact same thing only real
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>>268142947
That media blitz was their last ditch attempt and Ebola basically buried it.
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>>268143058
>Its anti-SJW!
SJW's are the biggest enemy right now.

"B-but you're only shooting SJW's!"
Okay, so what about we go attack a Nazi Game Reviewer who videogames because they're not racist enough?
Except there's none, dumbass
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>>268143109
You have people sameposting the comments on those sites
thats not fooling anyone
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>>268143058
I don't mind Anita, and certain SJW friends try to drag me into "raids" now and then (from what I gather, that usually involves harassing people's place of work after they said something those SJWs disagree with).
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>>268142554
what? the corrupt journalism moved the topic from journalistic ethics to social justice and feminism even when it wasnt relevant at all.

you can't win in that field, it's like bringing up religion in israel-palestine conflict, minus the dead muslims. doesnt matter how much thought or reason you put in the debate, if someone screams "sexist" or "deus vult" your on the defensive
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I just like seeing SJW's getting called on their bullshit. Now there seems to be a ton more of it, so I kinda like GG.

But, there is a lot of stuff about GG that either annoys me or I don't give a shit about. I always figured gaming journalists were shit, so whatever. Also, discussions can sometimes get a little /pol/ly for my liking.

Still, I do root for GG. Mostly because the people who are the most pissed at it are fucking tools.
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YOU GUYS SIMPLY CANT EXIST AS ANYTHING BUT COPYPASTAS
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>>268143208
What the hell are you on about?
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>People are actually butthurt for /v/'s "board culture"
>W-We have to p-protect our memes guys!
Im pretty sure any newfag redditors here shitpost a lot less than ebin trolles who pretend they're from leddit.
Even if you took out all the reddit and tumblr right now, the board will still be shit because everyone here is a massive faggot.
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>>268143312
What
It's me pointing the obvious in multiple posts, that isn't samefagging
You instead, why the fuck do you ignore what i say?
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>>268143058
>>absolutely every person behind GG hates Anita and SJWs and their only targets are sites or journalists who mention feminism or SJ
GG targeted thos journos for their cronyism, they hid themselves behind feminism.
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>>268143253
>SJW's are the biggest enemy right now.
They aren't. They don't matter. What matter is cronyism.


They use SJ as theor tool, but it could be anything else.
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I come to /v/ for an unfiltered generalized opinion and player experiences. Yeah there's a lot of shitpostin, but if you sift through the shit you can find kernals of good info. It's like all online news really, except /v/ has more brevity.

I also enjoy Gametrailers stuff. They have decent reviews, fun and interesting commentaries, and I believe their employees actually grew up playing and loving games
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>>268143431
Yeah because some people are going to listen to angsty forum trolls instead of the sites they have bookmarked and have been reading for years
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>>268127053
KDRAMASTARS
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>>268127053
P4R gaming the only good game journalist site out there
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>>268127053
RPS and PCG
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>>268139605
>>268143058

>Argument beaten
>Same argument pops back up
Its like im actually talking to a jew.

>>268143549
>Anything else
Like?
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>>268143058
No one cares about feminism or social justice in of themselves. We care about this shit changing the games we play. Having an agenda pushed in my face when all I want to do is play a game affects me. Gamejournos and people like Anita telling me I'm a bad person and that I hate women because I like playing Bayonetta is abhorrent and should not be defended. Zoe Quinn torpedoing a project to help female game devs for her own profit is abhorrent and should not be defended. I don't care if these actions come from a man, a woman, or whatever in between. It's inexcusable.
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Why does everybody suddenly start talking about Kotaku like it's the final boss of the internet? Back in 2008 or so, /v/ used to treat them as a joke of a gaming site for being constantly slow to the news, and now everybody seems to want to take them down.

What the fuck happened?
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>>268143737
Please this is about hating women who speak their minds
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>>268143849
>THIS IS WHAT SHILLS ACTUALLY BELIEVE
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>>268143805
Damn you got us.
Time to stand down, its how things are now. Acceptance is better and i like sucking fat jew cock.
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I think they are regrouping back at lamechan lol
screenshots to follow
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>>268143849
2/10
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>>268132425
>Giant Bomb

You mean the pay site that was brought to life because some fat oaf got fired for writing a bad review for a bad game? And now they endorse the StopGamerGate shit because it's a convenient way to get people not to critique them on favoritism in indie game ratings?

>supporting GiantBomb
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>>268143805
The answer is pretty obvious or you just that dense?
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>>268143976
Copy pasta isn't the same thing as having a thought of your own
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>>268127053
>implying that there's anything more than company paid bloggers and SJW idiots
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>>268135063
>GG has completely and utterly failed because it continues to preach about wanting fair and ethical gaming journalism without corruption but it's only targets are SJWs

>implying there's non SJW gaming "journalists"
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>>268143805
Remember when Reddit was just that ginger guy who apparently was mad at digg, another site you'd never heard of and didn't give a shit about?

Things change

It doesn't make it less stupid that I have to hear about both constantly here when I would barely know what Reddit is and be aware of Kotaku if /v/ would shut up for 10 seconds about both
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>>268144142
>there's
There is
Theirs
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>>268144090
You're parroting the "womyn harrasment campaign" line.
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Gamergate is a smoke screen for a lynch mob
just ask the internet
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>>268144204
wow you admit your aredditor retard
please kill yourself with a rusty knife faggot asshole

go suck a sjw tranny dick lmao
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>>268135063
>GG has completely and utterly failed because it continues to preach about wanting fair and ethical gaming journalism

>Oh wow, great job. It's just "fuck SJWs" again. That's all it's ever been. And the entire time you said it wasn't, but nobody did shit when it was revealed youtubers were paid for coverage

YouTubers aren't "journalists" and generally don't claim to be either. That's a fairly huge logical fallacy you have there. Also Machinima caught shit like crazy as well so even then you're wrong
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>>268144316
:^)
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>>268144237
>implying that there is anything more than
?
English, do you speak it?
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>>268144152
They failed because their ideas are incoherent, and can't survive a rational discussion.
They fail because they have to hide behind fake twitter and the people they attack are real people with support in the industry.
Mainly they fail because they have no college
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>>268137216
>literally after GG was gone SJW shitposting went through the roof
>daily Gone Home was good threads
>every other thread had GG/SJW shitposting
>this thread
>vivan treads
yes this surely is the golden age
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>>268139580
>>268139580
>>268139580
Get out
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>>268144476
>Mainly they fail because they have no college
What? Your posts can't survive a rational discussion.
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>>268144204
>another site you'd never heard of
Nigger I used to frequent Digg like it was my god damn day job. After it had that weird caitaist batmism and rebirth, I recognized that Leddit would soon follow and considering their efforts to standardize and monetize the brands with paid promotional submissions I couldn't be fucking happier. Ledditis literately Digg2.0 and the trains hasn'tm crashed yet.
Join me, brothers.
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>>268144516
It's called trolling
I thought you fucks of all people might appreciate that
Not only does it piss off GG it calls attention to the fact that this is really about silencing dissenting opinions
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>>268135862
No, I mean those kinds of articles are being posted even more now. Most normies steer clear of that shit too, people who are personally interested in SJ topics are the only ones even going to those sites now.
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>>268144476
Who has anyone stating they were a supporter of GG attacked that actually support the industry? Name one REAL game dev that GG has targeted. I'll wait.

>implying literally who

AHhaha no no I said a REAL game dev.
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>>268138530
>RPS is awesome
>I mean their totally begging for money, based amirite
>Jhon walker talking down to me like the faggot moron I am
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Just a reminder there are people who still defend Dina being hired for Might No 9 because of nepotism.
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>>268144706
>it calls attention to the fact that this is really about silencing dissenting opinions
What?
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OOOOOOOOOOH MY GOOD

Fuck OFF gaymergaters, go back to your shitty website made BY A MIDGET

We don't want you here, you were dead the moment you decided to join up with /pol/ in harassing people and being "HURR DURR FEMINISTS GONNA TAKE MUH GAMES"
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>>268144756
Openly no one but your ircs tell a different story
The truth is you're out of moves
you literally cannot organize yourselves without letting us see you do it
And from now on you are the punchline to this anons joke.
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>>268144785
Maybe you have no high school either?
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>>268144706
its been nothing but "these misogynistic assholes should stop saying stuff I don't like" from you, and you've got 90% of sites agreeing with you. stop projecting
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>>268135651
>Broteam

As if that fat retarded canadafag gives two shits about whats going on, hes still getting buttrammed by Machinima to care about this mess
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>>268128534
Are they traps or what are those bulges?
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>>268144785
English?
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>>268144706
>It's called trolling
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, what they were only pretending to be retarded so it okay
>it calls attention to the fact that this is really about silencing dissenting opinions
Nigga you must delusional if you thought it was about that but you're probably some newfag who should fuck off to /b/
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>>268144923
>we
>>
>SRS faggots on all of my favorite boards
>console wars still here
>joot doesn't care as long as he gets them shekels
>tfw 4chan finally ded
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>>268135063
Pretty much this.

I'm all for calling SJWs out on their bullshit and bigotry, but there are other forms of corruption out there in the industry that are much more harmful.

The best thing to do with SJWs is to ignore them and not give them the attention they want. By arguing with them, you're basically just validating their opinions.

And given the nature of twitter, yeah, the majority of gamergate supporters probably don't know what the movement was all about, and jumped on the bandwagon thinking it was just about SJWs.

Gamergate started because of the relationships of some journalists and some developers, and the conflict of interest that goes along with that. It had nothing to do with SJWs.

Then they all attacked gamers, saying the whole thing was about women in video games, and GG fell for the bait. They let them twist it into something else.

And now, even the most rational gamergater does little more than butt heads with people on Twitter. Yeah, some of those SJWs are terrible horrible people, but engaging with them is a waste of time.
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>>268144923
>go back to your shitty website made BY A MIDGET
Yeah, a midget that didn't do it for free
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>>268144923
Please do not discriminate people based on their height. That is ableism and it is pernicious.

Shit bait, in any case.

>>268145123
What is "this" exactly?

>>268145037
Is English not your first language?
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>>268145210
>GG this butthurt that 4chan sees through their bullshit

Yes, WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE FUCK OFF
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>>268145045
I'm posting a lot less than you think
It helps you not be able to abuse the report system
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>>268145313
Who is this "4chan"?
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>>268145313
>I've been here since late September! I speak for 4chan!
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>>268145272
Moot is far more fucking based than some kid who can't even climb the stairs and wears pajamas

>>268145275
>Ableism
>pernicious
GGers are the EXACT SAME AS THE PEOPLE THEY ARE FIGHTING LOOK

That's shit SJWS SAY

Fuck off, old /v/ would chase your ass out

>>268145370
The website your on, pissbaby

>>268145390
I'll have you know I've been on /v/ since the moment 4chan openned, I'm one of the very originals. Damn straight I should be able to speak for 4chan.
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>>268145313
>WE
>>
See you thought you could recruit /v
But you're too fucking boring and unimpressive
now its 4 sameposters vs /v
and youll never be able to anything but make weird threats to women who are way cooler than you.
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>>268145593
>I'm one of the very originals
How was 4chan abefore?
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>>268145313
Fucking hell. When is moot going to give this shit board IDs. Watch the shitposting stop immediately once people can no longer same fag
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>>268145598
Anon is right
We don't want you here
We dont want to get blamed for you're hysterical shitflinging
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>>268145313
Just cuz you use memes in your forum signatures still doesn't mean you know shit about the way this site works. We're all people, not robots btw.
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>>268145593
>Being this autistic
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>>268144937
Are you samefag as >>268142947? Learn how to type dumbass.
>YUR OUTTA MOVES WE CAN SEE YOU
what in the actual fuck are you talking about? Who is trying to organize here?
pic related
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>>268145593
>I'll have you know I've been on /v/ since the moment 4chan openned
There's a contradiction here. But since you were one of the originals, you should be able to spot what it is.
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>>268145731
Nothing to see here
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>>268135565
>Dualshockers
I have no fucking idea but the Sony brand is a brand of distrust.
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>>268145593
>pissbaby
>moot is based
>I've been on /v/ since the moment 4chan openned
your newfag is showing hard
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>>268145882
And you guys are so good at running a raid
you must be here since forever!
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>>268145731
>you have a thread you cant keep up and a twitter circlejerk
Sounds about right
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>>268145593
>A newfag pretending to be a oldfag
>"I can speak for all of 4chan because i've been here since the start!"

>>268145987
>Try to make something better
>"Raid"
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>>268145987
Who the fuck is you guys I didn't claim shit
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>>268144715
Seriously, PcGamer ran an article blaming gamergate for the supposed threats on Miss Listen and Believe, and the comments section was chockfull of people going 'Fuck your bullshit, we are outta here now more alternatives have popped up'

Even the normal gaming crowd is getting more and more fed up with the SJW's bullshit. And rightfully so.
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>>268145593
Check your ablist privilege, shitlord.

I find it funny how a crippled dwarf in a wheelchair has even more of a spine than Poole does.
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>>268146083
I am
The difference is when im done with you lulz will be had
And then you will just be done
Honestly this is just as much about me not liking adam baldwin the actor than any attempt at philosophy you guys made
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>tfw SJWs raid /v/ on a daily basis
>Anons just chalk it up as ironic shitposting
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>>268146128
pastebin of article?
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>>268146128
Yeah because forum trolls noone has ever seen before will convince someone to stop frequenting a site they have been reading for years.
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>>268145598
What, are you trying to do that he shitposting? Do that on your shit ripoff board, not here

>>268145645
It didn't put up with this shit. It was bad ass and would laugh at retarded shit like GG

>>268145696
The hell are you talking about? I'm NOT SHITPOSTING BECAUSE "HURR DURR HE DOESN'T LIKE GG" FUCK YOU

>>268145726
I don't use any other website but 4chan I'll have you know

>>268145727
I'm NOT Autistic I'll have you know.

>>268145773
What contradiction? That I can't have invested a ton f time here? Leave, I'm older and more experienced here than you will EVER be in your life.

>>268145882
I'm not a Newfag, Moots a genuinely good guy and fuck this "LE FOR FREE XD" meme, our janitors KEEP THIS SITE AFLOAT. Why do you think the other shit chan is getting shit? Because they don't moderate and let people post anything, like doxs, death threats, and everything.

But HURR GG ISN'T ABOUT ATTACKING OMEN

>>268146083
IM NOT A NEWFAG STOP CALLING ME THAT

I'll have you know I posted the Pedobear in that very post you just posted.

>>268146128
No, they're FULL OF SHIT for buying into the retarded GG narrative of "C-Corrupted journalism!" when in reality everything was fine and they were shitposting to start shit because they want another shitstorm like when Tumblr invaded 4han

>>268146234
LOOK EVERYONE, SEE! PROOF RIGHT HERE
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>>268144476
>hey failed because their ideas are incoherent, and can't survive a rational discussion.

Do you really believe their isn't a concerted effort by journalists to prop up games solely by political affiliation? And that GG HASN'T proved this over and over again to be true?

Do you also believe gaming journalists don't also have their own personal vested interest in certain projects doing well without them or their employers disclosing so? And such connections haven't shown to be true time and time again?

>being this dumb
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>>268146245
>see I'm doing it for teh lulz I'm totally not a newfag
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>>268139580

Quick, hang yourself asap
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>>268146245
>I AM THE TUFF 4CHAN GUY AND IM NOT AFRAID ON ANYTHING
did brazilian kids just get out of school or is this an eastern yurofag?
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>>268142848
Ain't Streisand effect a bitch, Poole?
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BluesNews is good for PC news.

>>268127817
She said that the characters in her game are three dimensional and fully fleshed out characters.

The words "three dimensional" put a smile on my face after seeing the screenshots.
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The truth is I could post my social security number in this thread and you fuckers wouldnt know what to do with it
I have nothing to fear from you
meanwhile you just keep painting targets on everything you hold dear.
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>>268146343
holy shit all this careposting
you must not be from around here
>get out
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>>268146343
>newfag being this butthurt and autistic
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>>268146397
Im the hand who knocks bitch
See you in the funny pages
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>>268146257
>>268146317

Here is the archive.today link: https://archive.today/S6Rdf

People who have been reading it since 2006 and on the subscriber program are also pulling out.

>>268146343
You should ask Poole if he can pays you for more than one hotpocket,
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>>268146343
>What contradiction?
>I'll have you know I've been on /v/
>since the moment 4chan openned,
Clearly if you were here from the start you'd notice something off about this statement
You've already dug your own grave though, and the best part is you can't even see how
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>>268146343
>Being this autistic
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>that feel when extremists make it impossible for sensible people to have a discussion and hash shit out

>not being an extremist in one camp automatically gets you lumped into the other

Can't I just agree with people who think that other groups could use better representation, but think pandering garbage is terrible and the attempted destruction of the straight white male is awful? And all the while think that the quality of a game is more important than any kind of social message?
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>>268146343
>there are people falling for this
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>>268146343
>being this buttflustered about getting told by GGers
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>>268146343
This is a new level of anal devastation.
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>>268142848
I like being able to get threads deleted just by finding the guy who sounds like a mod and then alphaing the shit out of him

they don't ban me I think because they have to account for bans to moot but I did get one so mad he went through my post history and accused me of being a niggerlover

kek
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>>268146571
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>>268146702
Wow check out this SJW shill. Go back to tumbreddit.
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>>268146343
>I'll have you know I posted the Pedobear in that very post you just posted.
>I don't use any other website but 4chan I'll have you know
>I'm NOT Autistic I'll have you know.
You're a butthurt autistic newfag and probably underage I'll have you know
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>>268146494
I AM FROM AROUND HERE

Christ fuck off GGer

>>268146539
I'm not a newfag, I'm not Butthurt, and I'm not autistic.

>>268146641
>LE ITS FUNNY TO MOCK THE PEOPLE WHO KEEP THIS SITE FROM GETTING ARRESTED

No, fuck you. Seriously just

fuck you

>>268146643
I know /v/ wasn't at the beginning, I was just referring to 4chan in general, dipshit

>>268146674
I'm not AUTISTIC STOP CALLING ME THAT

>>268146750
>H-He doesn't like GG
>He's a troll!
THIS IS WHY NO ONE LIKES YOU GGERs

>>268146759
>Implying a GGer can tell anybody

No, I'm laughing at them, not the other way around

>>268146763
Well fuck you too, go back to your 4chan owned by a guy who doesn't even have a butt

>>268146964
OH MY GOD

Christ can you GGers do nothing but cry "NEWFAG AUTISTIC BUTRHURT"

I'm NOT autistic, I'm NOT a newfag, and I'm NOT Butthurt. You guys were so butthurt you let an 8 year old MIDGEt make a new website thats SHIT

BUT I"M THE BUTTHURT ONE HERE
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>>268132072
behehe

Considering this:
http://theralphretort.com/internal-email-shows-guardian-mind-made-gamergate/
No m8 :^)
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>>268146702
problem is even with your nice benign opinion you'll still be lumped in with the deaththreat people.
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>>268146702
thats acutally what most of GG thinks but have their heads so far up their own asses that they can't see that they need representation because they have teh truth or something on their side
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>>268147090
>being this autistic
>baiting this hard
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>>268127053
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>>268147090
>I was just referring to 4chan in general
>>I'll have you know I've been on /v/ since the moment 4chan openned
Uh huh
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>>268147113
There aren't really any 'death threat people'.
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>>268147090
you're too much kid
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>>268147090
>I'm totally not butthurt
>I'm totally not autistic
>I'm totally not a newfag
>now here's my butthurt autistic newfaggy post to prove you guys wrong
Didn't you're parents teach you not to lie kid
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>>268147134
>need representation
I got it right here
http://youtu.be/9MxqSwzFy5w
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>>268135063
#GG has failed.

http://topsy.com/analytics?q1=%23gamergate&via=Topsy

GamerGate is just now hitting it's stride you moron.
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>>268146343
>>268147090
>Anti-GG incarnate
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>>268147525
Yeah shame it's only "taking off" in the context of the mainstream hearing about it and thinking GGers are stupid fucking retards
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You know what? Fuck you all, I thought I could try to talk some SENSe and LOGIC into you, but you refuse to listen. It's a shame, since I was seriously considering visiting this site more often. I wanted to give you guys the benefit of the doubt. Well fuck you all, I'm heading back to a far better and more exclusive forum that you PISS STAINS will never ever be a part of.

Enjoy acting like immature children over here, playing with the same dolls and toys while we truly advance this medium. If by force or by recconing.
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>>268147090
this is the worst thing I've ever read
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>>268147694
>Enjoy acting like immature children

The irony hurts. Also, *reckoning
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>>268147090
>I spend time replying to every response on 4chan
Lol, autist
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DSOGaming
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>>268147090
How long until, "I WAS JUST PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED!"
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You're all nothing but a group of extremist masoginerds.
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>>268147090
>>268146343
To anyone who is really Anti-GG on /v/ because of the people it brought in and not a shill.

These are the type of people who will be replacing us if we are driven out.
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>>268147495
If she is helping too represent you why doesn't she help you guys by going on the news and dispelling the sexist and soggyknees shit. She doesn't really support you she's just using you guys she doesn't care if GG dies or lives. I still haven't actually seen evidence of GG actually doing any of that harassing or doxing that people keep talking about but you guys think

>hurr no one cares what news sites say we don't need to get someone to address it officially we'll just keep denying it on twatter that will totally work
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>>268147694
>get out
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>>268148037
So?
Let them have /v/.
Why shouldn't oldfags leave 4chan so the next generation has their own /v7 with their own culture hive mind.
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>>268144772
Anon, nepotism isn't the issue. 90% of the time, job opportunities are about who you know, not what you know.

The problem is she's a vapid cunt who actively hates the very people who 'want' to support the game she's supposed to be representing

Because of the way she's conducted herself, I simply can't give money to them.
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>>268147090
>BUT I"M THE BUTTHURT ONE HERE

Clearly
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>>268142183
It's always worth considering who benefits the most, whenever something bad happens
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>>268148213
So you're going to leave your home because a squatter moves in and starts shitting everywhere?
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>>268147090
Holy shit it's like my 13 year old self.
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>>268148048
The only positive representation that GG actually got were from that one segment of the Huffington post that let the 3 GG girls give their side of the argument.
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http://alternatives.gamergate.community/
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Fucking gamergate cant even keep a thread going
why should anyone listen to u
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>>268147090
>"I AM FROM AROUND HERE"
>"I'm not a newfag"

Can you show us your 4chan platinum tag? Every veteran has one
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>>268148531
Yes I guess. I mean if moot is on their side there is no way for me to win this.
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No.
Journalism is poison.
Form your own opinions.
Find your own news.
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>>268148849
>Try to stop journalism form being poison
>"Journalism is poison, don't mess with it"
Can you hear that anons?
Shalom
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>>268147113
The thing is, if I express that here I'm labeled as an SJW cuck tumblrfag
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>WE ARE GOING TO LEAVE 4CHAN AND KILL IT!! FUCK YOU MOOT YOU SJW SHILL.

And you're already back.
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>>268127053
>>>/v/
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>>268149034
If only Anonymity could protect you.
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>>268148048
She doesn't need to. Common sense and decency will prevail.
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>>268138817
And again, if you think that's strong enough evidence to be irrefutable proof that this other account is another sock puppet, stop posting it here and take it to people to actually report on the matter.
Unless you think literally every media outlet in existence is corrupt as well.
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>>268149107
>>268149107
>>268149107
>>268149107
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>>268148729
Moot only backs who he fears the most. Used to be anonymous because you know there was always going to be a few crazy mother fuckers who would dox and try to kill him if he shut down 4chan.

Now imagine what SJWers had to do to get him to side with them. Probably threatened all his projects and to dox his parents.
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>>268140572
if anti-feminism is refusing to worship the vagina, then yes, it is their primary reason for existing
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>>268148048
Evidence is presented in a court
This thread is just for people to laugh at you
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>>268146641
Thank you for this anon. I was going to go check it out, but I have been deterred.
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>>268149273

Or maybe the day before he banned you
you all had the bright idea to spam his email

It doesnt need to be a conspiracy for people to not like you
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>>268149131
That's not the issue here. The problem is that nothing can be discussed because SJWs did or said this and MRA pissbabies did or said that.

It's like level headed Americans and Muslims trying to get together and patch up differences and help teach that Islam isn't a lunatic group while you have jihadists blowing shit up and rednecks saying we should shoot all Arabs on sight.
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>>268146343
ahahahahahahah

SUCH AUTISM

MUCH SJWERY

WOW
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>>268135054
Umm, is that you honey?
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>>268149273

GG/pol/ doxxed multiple mods. I'm pretty sure that is part of the reason this is still "banned" and the spam and shit posting AND the report spamming AND the email spamming AND the raids probably did not do anything to convince moot to allow gg threads.
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>>268146641
Who care if 5 people with 20 accounts and 0 money say they are going to cancel a subscription they dont have and if they did have would have already paid for?
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