Damn..."For the gamers" got btfo

>whoa, our console sold THAT much in september
>how did the PS4 sell in august again? oh yeah, we're ahead

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>consoles

>>267759576
Are people really thinking that Xbone sold more that PS4 on the fucking Destiny Month with a new color available? Damn Patcher must be fucking insane.

>>267759576

>Michael Pachter

Oh that guy who makes no effort at all in hiding that he's Jewish.

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>Pachter

Isn't he that guy who is always wrong?

who?

PS4 fanboys really are the worst.

What the HELL is he talking about? Did Xbone outsell PS4 for month or did it catch up the 10(?) million sales of PS4?

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>the Jew who cried about losing schekels over adblock

>>267759952
well, he's talking only for america

while still unlikely the ps4 is behind, the numbers in america should still be somewhat close

the rest of the world makes the ps4 like 3-4x ahead in september though

>>267759952
>>267760387
Why does he even care? It seems so petty.

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People arguing, or even caring about sales and console wars are just kids/teenagers...

Why would you even get mad at them ?

In a few years they will stop caring for this shit and a whole new generation will take their place. It's not like you even can stop this.

PS4 users don't care about games, they only care about hardware sales.

Don't worry, Sonyggers. The big bad Xbone isn't going to crash your circlejerk party any time soon. You can all relax now. Take your inhalers. Breath in, breath out. That's it...

ALWAYS do the opposite of what Pachter says

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8R4BAQf7is

>>267760483
>>267760524
Are we already forgetting that Nintendo fans made sales threads every single day, boasting about the Wii and 3DS for the entirety of last gen?

>>267759576
>Pachter

Thread discarded.

>>267760483
You do know that higher sales = more games, right? Developers will go for the consoles with a higher install base which will lead to more sales. Why is /v/ so stupid when it comes it video game sales?

>>267760567
>trying this hard

>>267760661
No they didn't. Don't make shit up.

>>267760661
I didn't. Are you sure you're not mistaking /v/ for one person again?

Even if the boner won this month, it would be a phyrric victory, they gave a game for free and tons of fifa bundles, that cost money to MS

>>267760578
Check out his sales predictions, they are very close.

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>>267760661
/v/ as a whole didn't care about sales until a few years ago, and openly mocked the sales chart warriors, at least until those same people developed a large presence on the board, hence the term "Neo/v/".

Also 3DS is current gen, you dope.

>>267760387
>the rest of the world makes the ps4 like 3-4x ahead in september though
and sad part is that it was a launch month for xbone in like 28 new territories

such as 100k in china

>>267760461
>Why does he even care? It seems so petty.

Shitting on gamers is the new fad in gaming journalism.

Fanboys have existed since microsft wasn't even thinking about making a console Patcher, no one gives a shit.

>>267760779
Save it for neogaf thread.

> Michael Pachter has predicted that September sales will be down year-over-year, despite the release of Destiny. He estimated that Destiny has sold 2.75 million units in the US, which is well below the seven million Grand Theft Auto V sold a year ago.

Does he get paid for this shit?

>>267760723
>falling for it

>>267760880

There's nothing wrong with shitting on gamers. They're the most pathetic bunch of whiny autists on the planet. They deserve to be shit on.

>>267760909
Refute him.

>>267760742
>No they didn't

Are you fucking shitting me? The whole last gen was nintendrones boasting about sales and repeating PS3 has no gaems over and over and over.

>>267760689
Sure.

Its 96 all over again.

Exclusives titles come mainly from first party studios now, and you perfectly know it.

This guy has one of the bests jobs in the world

>Xbox one sold more in a months

ahahahah is this real?

>>267761038

Most of the people bemoaning the PS3's lack of games were the people who bought one. I should know, I'm one of em.

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>>267759576
I think he's giving too much weight to the free game promotion but it might be close.

This thread is justifying what he said.

>>267761006
>There's nothing wrong with shitting on gamers.

Patcher, gamers said all those mean things about you because you deserved them, stop crying please.

Is he talking about USA sales or worldwide sales?

Because there's no way the boner sold more than ps4 worldwide

>>267760789

>a child of coin predicting sales

Yes how shocking.

>>267759576
>Pachter
So the PS4 won September, right?

>>267761309

He's right, though.

>>267761414
Probably, yeah, or the N64 did, Patcher tends to be wrong.

>>267760178
Not only is he wrong, the exact opposite of what he predicts always happens. He's like an inverted Magic 8-ball.

>>267761479

So was Stalin

Meanwhile, a few years ago.

>>267761503

He predicted the Wii U would be a flop and that the PS4 would win.

>>267761571
He said, forgetting his hyperling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8R4BAQf7is

>>267761375
usa only, he was claiming xbone did 325k in US in september, and PS4 is at ~250k

(worldwide PS4 is around 1m in september)

>>267761596
Even a broken clock is right twice a day

>>267761206
>Most of the people bemoaning the PS3's lack of games were the people who bought one.

The console sold like shit back then because of the price and lack of games so you were actually a minority, most were just Nintendrone on a schadenfreude spree and trolls enjoying the butthurt.

I don't even care really, I bought the PS3 only after the slim came out and mainly to play Demon's Souls and a few other games but I just think it's pathetic how some people here really want you to believe that Nintendo's fanboys are somehow different and more "mature" then other fanboys, it's just ridiculous.

>>267761645
>worldwide PS4 is around 1m in september)
>~250k in US
This is bullshit.
You dont have market for 750k PS4.

>>267761596
This was so obvious to everyone it really shouldn't be counted.

>>267761645
>he was claiming xbone did 325k in US in september
Even that I can't see happening with Destiny basically being a PS4 exclusive based on the advertising. What did the Bone get that Clapistanians had to get out and buy one for?

>>267761795
>You dont have market for 750k PS4.
>you
>the entire non-US world

Do you want to reconsider?

>>267761853
Forza Horizon

>>267761479
>He's right, though.
>waaah fanboys are stupid

Thanks Patcher, you are a well of wisdom

>>267761795
>You dont have market for 750k PS4.
Europe and Asia are huge fucking markets, mate. The Xbone only has a huge market in the US, outside the US people are buying PS4's.

>>267761914
Forza Horizon isn't that popular/great to move tons of Xbone consoles

I'm gonna wait for NPD and Pacther to get BTFO

>>267761309
> "Oh my god some random guy just said the Xbone outsold my favourite console for one month ! I'm absolutely not a pathetic autist if I want this guy dead !"

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>>267761909
~50k in Japan.
And 700k where?

Also, Pachter data for August (Wedbush).
Close every month.

>>267761914
Really? That was the game that swayed people, a sequel to a spin-off to a racing game? What is wrong with Xbots?

>>267761795
While it is most likely bullshit, FIFA did move a lot of PS4 in europe. Everything else PS4 also been generally better over there.

>>267762030
>forza isnt great
>destiny is

N1 sonygger

>>267762006
>Asia
Japan? PS4 selling very poorly in here.

Euro market not bigger than USA market.

>>267761832

So he's not always wrong, in fact sometimes he's right. Gotcha.

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>pachter

>>267762046
>I want this guy dead

You need to be truly autistic to think that random threats on the internet are anything but generic outburst of rage by teenagers and kids.. you know the people who actually cares about console wars.

>>267761795
well, you have to take into account the PS3 and PS2 sales...

>>267762147
>Asia = Japan
Okay.

>>267762143
Actual quality aside, based on it being a Bungie game and the hype train it was obvious that Destiny was going to sell well. There was no clear indication that Horizon 2 was going to be a system seller at all. Shit, I've only seen 1 commercial for it so far.

>>267761996
>Pachter
>he thinks anybody over the age of 22 who doesn't have autism would actually browse this site

cute

>>267762284
What else?
How much big market for PS4 those countries?

>>267762105
>>267762030
Horizon 1 was pretty good, it was a fun racer.
I'm not buying a bone just for Forza though, unless the xbox division gets sold, I'm never gonna buy a xbox thing again

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>people treat owning one video game console over another like a competition
>people think that they can "win a month" just by owning a particular video game console
>Patcher

>These Wedbush numbers are just a prediction, and we should learn if they are accurate this Thursday when industry-tracking firm The NPD Group reveals its sales data for the month of September.
So in other words, it's fucking nothing.

>>267762185
He's only right when people who are not qualified to do his job can predict what's going to happen, yes.

>>267762881
Look at this pic.
>>267762057

Pachter always spot on on sales numbers.

>>267760742
>No we didn't
ftfy

>>267762959
He's talking about US sales numbers only, it's his prediction, and you want me to take what he's saying at face value. No, I don't care, it's fucking nothing.

>>267763074
PS4 bomba in Japan. Worse than WiiU.
EU do not publish sales numbers.
NPD numbers surface every month and neogaf go crazy over them.

>>267762916

Glad we agree.

So did the bone outsell the PS4 in September or what?

>>267763538

Yes.

>>267763153
>PS4 bomba in Japan. Worse than WiiU.

Do you realize that Wii U is barely outselling the PS4?

>>267763627
>barely outselling
>outselling
Key word.

xbone just launched in specific regions

Wins what?

WINS WHAT

>>267761280
I wonder what kind of fun stuff these guys are gonna do together. Maybe play some video games.

>>267763538
According to Pachter, which probably means it didn't.

>>267761596
I guess the Wii U is saved. The entire universe will turn upside down just to prove Pachter wrong.

Is he someone important? Cause noone outside of small children and retards should care about Console wars

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>>267763538

Of course not! Nothing can outsell the PS4! Nothing!!!

>>267759576
Didn't these guys ever go to marketing school? It's common knowledge that your mouth shouldn't write checks your ass can't cash.

>>267763985

So basically, all of /v/?

>>267764073
>all of /v/ is one person
woah...

>>267764073
Yeah

>>267760053
You mean he couldn't hide forever that he's pro-MS anymore.
I swear last gen he paraded every month the 360 beat the PS3 in sales, but at the same time said nothing to praise the Wii, which was in the lead.

>>267764187

All of /v/ are different people, but they are all small children or retards. Otherwise, they wouldn't be browsing /v/.

>>267759576
>Pachter

Maybe he shouldn't talk so much shit if he doesn't want criticism. Has he ever been right about anything?

>>267762057
But VGchartz is closer according to your picture.

>>267764275
>/v/ is one person
>proceeds to call itself retard
Okay.

>>267764361
They have worse rate of success predictions than pachter.

>>267759576

Misery loves company and all that jazz.

>>267764409

I'm as big of a retard as you are, I dunno what you're on about.

>>267761280
source?

>>267763985
I wonder what you do on /v/ then.

>>267763729
Probably teach her the way to a dentist.

>>267761503
He actually predicted Rainbow Six to be shown at E3 too
He's still a shitlord though

>>267760920
#swag

>>267765667
Fucked up teeth are considered sexy in Japan.

>>267766470

Because it reminds them of little kids. As long as it makes you look like a little kid, it's considered sexy in Japan. And on 4chan.

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>>267762874
it's amazing what people will fight over isn't it?

>>267760920
>damage control

>>267760365

what video is that? i cant find sauce

>>267759576
Dayly reminder that it doesnt fucking matter at all and all you people are idiots.

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>>267759576
Who is ready for the sonygger tears when Xbone wins north america from September through December cause of Halo?

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>>267762030
> Forza isn't a system seller
> Horizon 2 isn't a 10/10 racing game
> Destiny might as well be a PS4 exclusive
Sonyggers errebody

>>267760053
Except that is an extremely german-german name, not jewish-german.

>>267770101

> Horizon 2 isn't a 10/10 racing game
> Forza isn't a system seller

These are correct.
Forzas have never been system sellers and Forza's have been on a steady decline in popularity and quality.

> 30fps
> microtransactions
> shipping with on-disk DLC
> less and less content every time
> season passes
> "drivatar" which proved to be a terrible idea
> PS2-tier textures on everything but cars

>>267759952
>>267761309
>>267761501
>Patcher
You fail at basic reading.

>on a schadenfreude spree and trolls enjoying the butthurt
That is literally the exact same thing.

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>>267759576
>makes stupid baseless prediction as usual
>people tell him how stupid he is
>t-t-they are f-fanboys

>>267759576
>visiting twitter
fuck off

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>>267770491

>Forzas have never been system sellers and Forza's have been on a steady decline in popularity and quality.
Full retard, Forza sells more than pretty much all PS exclusives besides GT.
>> microtransactions
>> shipping with on-disk DLC
>> less and less content every time
At least know what you're shitposting about. Horizon 2 has no microtransactions and a ton of content.

> season passes
like literally every game does now

>"drivatar" which proved to be a terrible idea
Yes, because drivatars don't work great and the AI is definitely inferior to Driveclub

> PS2-tier textures on everything but cars
that would actually be GT, which still uses updated PS2 models on their cars and 2D trees after like 6 years of delays.

>>267770796
>>people tell him how stupid he is
How exactly is he stupid by reporting sales numbers?
Oh right, sonyggers throw tantrums and call names when bad goyim don't buy their nogamesmachine.

>>267771119

>Full retard, Forza sells more than pretty much all PS exclusives besides GT.

This is a terrible lie, God of War numbered entries, Uncharted and TLOU all vastly outsell Debolezza Motorshit.

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>>267771119
> Full retard, Forza sells more than pretty much all PS exclusives besides GT.
Hyper kek.
No. They don't. Never have. Never will.

> At least know what you're shitposting about. Horizon 2 has no microtransactions and a ton of content.
> Ton of content

> ~ 200 cars
> ~ 12 tracks

TONS of content.

> like literally every game does now

Not driving games.

> that would actually be GT

No, that would be any Forza game ever.
Educate yourself.

Also, image related.

>>267771384
He doesn't report, he makes predictions. And none of his prediction has been right.

>>267771661
>massive free roaming world
>12 tracks
Nobody has to play the game to know you are full of shit delusional sonygger.

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>Buying a PS4 or an Xbone

At the very least I hope your excuse is having a bad computer, else I cannot fathom the point when both systems have like one whole worthwhile exclusive coming out in the next year.

Consoles are dead. Exclusivity is a dead concept being pushed by desperate men in the red who have to go as far as create timed exclusivity to try and get sales.

>>267760274
Meanwhile for the past month Ive seen nothing but threads bashing consoles or ps4. Where are these unicorns you speak of?

>>267760746
What is a hive mentallity?

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>>267771545
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/30434/forza-motorsport-3/
> 5.42m
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/12533/god-of-war-iii/
> 4.71m
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/28733/uncharted-2-among-thieves/
>6.45m

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/45656/forza-motorsport-4/
>4.25m
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/70350/the-last-of-us/
>5.05m

If Forza isn't a system seller literally nothing is on PS4 but GT, which is an objectively inferior racing game

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/gran-turismo-5
>84

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/forza-motorsport-4
> 91

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/gran-turismo-6
> 81

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/forza-motorsport-5
> 79

I'd imagine this is a huge reason PS4 lost NA this month

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/driveclub
> 72

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/forza-horizon-2
> 85

Stupid fucking sonygger zealot.

>>267761115
He isn't strictly a vidya analyst, he does it for free

>>267761737
Last time I checked Nintendo fanboys weren't the ones making threads whining about nintendo exclusives and how well the games they buy hold up in value over time

>there are people who still think pachter is a sony shill

He's just an informed investor that doesn't know jack shit about video games, so he often makes the most retarded claims in the history of human thought.

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>>267771661

>TONS of content.
Yes, the game could totally be better with half the customization and 300 upscaled PS2 Skylines instead. Totally worth 6 gorillion years of delays.

> driving games don't have season passes
not always, sometimes they come with cars that cost 200 dollars in microtransactions
http://gamerant.com/gran-turismo-6-microtransactions-explained/

Or you could pick one up in the other Sony racer for a grand total of like 80 cars - all european of course with barely any damage rendered because licensing is expensive
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2014/09/10/driveclub-season-pass-free-dlc-plan-detailed/

You pain me.

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>>267773079
>which is an objectively inferior racing game

>citing metacritic as a reference.

>>267773913

> accumulated review scores mean less than my opinion
as someone who was a massive GT fan before the 7th gen I suggest you stop shilling for the last two awful releases and actually take them to task to improve the game.

>Michael "Fudge" Pachter says Sony fans aren't invalidated

SONY FANS CONFIRMED INVALIDATED.

B T F O
T
F
O

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>tfw Gametrailers has been literally the GOAT vidya website since they got rid of Pachter

they gave 9.8 for Bayonatta 2 because it's "sexy"

>>267773743

Forza peaked at 3 and has declined ever since.

F4 might as well been F3 Top Gear Edition.

5 had upscaled F4 assets with a fraction of the content from 3 and 4..

FH sells like shit.

Can bash one franchise and totally ignore that your favorite franchise is going down the shitter.

>>267773743
>Yes, the game could totally be better with half the customization and 300 upscaled PS2 Skylines instead.
Still more variety and quantity in terms of premium cars than the competition even WITH the 1000 Skylines.
>sometimes they come with cars that cost 200 dollars in microtransactions
Wrong it costs in game credits, that can easily be earned by just playing the game. You spend 200 dollars if you don't play the game

And yes, Driveclub is shit.

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Everything Pachter predicts the opposite will happen

PS4 confirmed for still selling well

>>267759576
>pachter defending your console
This isn't good news for microsoft. We need to get Phil Spencer to perform an exorcism or something to ward him off.

>>267774749
but this isn't a prediction though

Jesus Christ who gives a shit about the opinion of a fucking economist

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>>267771661
>Forza has PS2 tier textures, not GT
Not too bright, are you?

>>267774749
What if he starts tweeting against what he believes will happen to start being right for a change?

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>>267774909

>>267774543
>Can bash one franchise and totally ignore that your favorite franchise is going down the shitter.

I'm not a motorsport fan anyway, I just like the Horizon games and 2 is great and an improvement in every way.

I also can't see FM6 pulling a GT6 either and following up a bland entry with another one with how fast they backtracked off Forza 5's launch bullshit and how Playground Games made sure Horizon 2 had none of the problems 5 did.

If FM6 is another bad entry though I will totally agree that it belongs in the trash.

>>267775000
If he says that the PS4 will continue to sell better than the Xbone then you know what will happen

>>267774883
It was. He got hate after predicting that XO when the numbers come in XO would have outsold PS4 last month

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>>267774909
>>267775159
Compared to more screens from me on Forza with it's "PS2 tier textures"

>>267759576
i hate both these consoles with a passion, but this doesn't make any sense

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>>267775519

>>267775519
> comparing a last gen game with a next gen game

>>267775159
>>267775519
16x the ram and 4x the CPU and this is the improvement? Fuck video games

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I'll also throw in a horizon one too.
>>267775642

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>>267775159
>>267775519
What's the difference? Both games higher the detail in photo mode compared to ingame

>>267775764
>>267775817

pretty major increase. Note: Lighting difference and nocockpitlol

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>>267775519
>photo mode
>generational gap

Yet it still looks like shit.

>>267775891

GT5 doesn't have a cockpit view? How fucking lazy. What did those devs do during the years and years it was delayed?

>>267775891
What a major increase indeed, considering that even this gen needs cardboard stand ins.

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>>267775891
At least compare ingame shots between games from the same gen

>>267776083
it does have a cockpit view
it was delayed because of the shitty psp version

>>267776083
wrestle with the shitty cell architecture and port like a million R35s from the PS2 games.
probably hookers and blow too since sony has like zero quality control or accountability over their studios. driveclub doesn't even work.

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>>267775976
>bringing up microtransactions
Did you play GT6? Because I sure did, evidenced by the screens there, and this one here as well. Did you know that it had micro trans as well? I can't remember the exact pricing, but I do remember it was far harder to earn credits (don't know about now, haven't played it for months). But the Kaz Bucks were fucking extraordinarily ridiculous prices too. Funny thing about that image and everyone who posts it doesn't realize that it's actually far more easier to make credits in Forza 5 than it is with GT6. At least i'm assuming you're a sonygger. If you were mustard rice i'd have another graphic to show.

To clarify, i'm not an xboner, sonygger, nintenchild, or mustard rice. I just play games.

>consoles
>pachter

>>267776195
This one doesn't have any holes outside the track though.

>>267776083
>but I do remember it was far harder to earn credits
What? Do you play once a year or something.
>that it's actually far more easier to make credits in Forza 5 than it is with GT6. At least i'm assuming you're a sonygger.
Oh ok, you are just fanboying and baiting, sorry.

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>>267759576
>nintenbabies this desperate
This is the same guy that kept spouting doom to your precious Reggie console through out the generations span, but now he's suddenly right when it's bad press against a playstation?

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>>267770101
>> Horizon 2 isn't a 10/10 racing game
Yeah more like 30/60 nam sayin

>>267776912
Seriously nigger? You think that it wasn't far harder to get credits in GT6?

I had to glitch and launder the glitched money through shelby daytonas which lasted for about two weeks and I was still continuously sinking for the time period I played it. There was a time where I would just play multiplayer with /ovg/(and the credits you got from that sort of thing were far less than you normally got in SP). I quickly found out that the credits earned and credits spent was not balanced for Multiplayer at all. And the garbage rubberband kamikaze AI wasn't worth playing with to get credits. This was back when they had no updates and you wouldn't get a log-in bonus, and the weeklies would be 10,000 max.

Forza on the other hand, i've played loads of multi with friends and have most the vehicles (250) and 2 million credits too spare at the moment. You could gain decent creds in MP in Forza and decnet XP to get 70k when you leveled up (which is 215 times for me 15050000 CR)

I don't know what the fuck you are trying to get at, but you were absolutely wrong.

>>267777827
The fucking seasonals that happen all the time?
The Baby red bull race? Which is like what? a million for 20 mins of your time.

What kind of large scale mob shelby bullshit are you running and wasting all your time by not playing.
Geezchrist