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Even Nintendo knows

haha
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I wanna watch Yoshi poop ha ha.
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>>267463904
Ha ha

Superstar Saga is so fucking good, Mario and Luigi RPG thread?
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Is this meme really still on?
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>>267464205
when have people stopped spouting a meme?
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>>267464205
Somehow, yes.
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>>267464153
I just made a new game for BiS Yesterday.
It's still the worst of the 4 IMO, even if it's a good game
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Is it anything like Paper Mario?
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>>267464205
It's too fucking weird to stop being funny.
There's a couple layers of humor here.
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>>267464631
Yeah it´s as good if not
Better.
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>>267463829
Do they really find these jokes funny on 4chan and put them in games? This particular joke is pretty pervert as well.
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>>267464720
It's only funny the first few times. If you were there for the original thread I'd expect you to be tired of it by now.
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>>267464845
The game existed first.
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>>267464205

It's just the same guy begging for Yoshi scat porn.
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>>267464468
I think BiS is way better than PiT.
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>>267464631
They play kind of differently. If you like Paper Mario you'll definitely like these. Start with Superstar Saga on the GBA.
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>>267464931
He just wants to know what the eggs smell like haha
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>>267463829
How does this prove they know anything?

That game one month younger than 4chan and older than all of those Yoshi posts.
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>>267465640
Haha
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>>267464631
The charm and fun gameplay is definitely there. Different than Paper Mario, but of the same caliber.
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>>267465496

Man, SSS was the best. PiT was okay but the meaty bosses were annoying, BiS was fun just for the novelty factor, DT was good but went on too long at times.

SSS was almost perfect. It just needed a postgame.
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haha :)
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>>267464631
Kinda? It's charming, but in a different sort of way. Also if you want to play the games, I suggest just playing them in release order.
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>Yoshi Theatre
>Hasn't got seats designed for Yoshis
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>>267465927
If Dream Team had fewer tutorials I think it could have given SSS a run for its money. As it stands, DT was still great (those butter smooth well animated sprites mang) but I think SSS still reigns supreme.

Dream Team has the best soundtrack.
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what's the yoshi joke?
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>>267466253
lurk more, faggot
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>>267466018
You used to be a dinosaur! A DINOSAUR!
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>>267465853
Just looked it up, apparently Dream Team has sold more than Sticker Star.

Not by a ton, but it's good to know that sometimes better games do sell better.
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>>267464468
Really? I think it's SSS > BiS > DT > PiT

I didn't even finish DT yet though because it got fucking tiresome. It has some good ideas and cool areas and monsters, but its pacing is garbage.
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I never played Dream Team because /v/ said it was shit, but enjoyed all the other entries in the series. Should I pick it up?
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>>267466582
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>>267466649
Yes, if you're patient enough to keep mashing "a" through the tutorials.

Personally, I didn't have a problem with the tutorials and I thought almost everything else was amazing.
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>>267463829
What's the joke
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>>267466649
Yes. It's a great game, fuck /v/'s opinions.
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>>267466690
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>>267466649
Definitely. It's very enjoyable overall, except for some pacing issues.
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>>267466649
>listening to /v/
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Can't you skip the Dream Team tutorials? I swear you could in BiS (Though they were still mildly annoying because every minigame has rules and there's LOTS of them).
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>>267464468
SSS>PiT>BiS>DT
They're all really fun and good games though.
Its one of Nintendo's best franchises imo
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>>267466649
Consider that /v/ is crazy for Bowser Inside Story and it has the same amount of tutorials of Dream Team.

So yeah, DT is great. Personally it is better than BiS and PiT. But not better than SSS.
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>>267467041
DT is definitely better than PiT imo.
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>>267466649
Its a game that kept me around for 40+ hours with all the shit in it
Its really fun, they managed to not fuck it up
Doing all the master challenges was fun too
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Superstar Saga is easily my favorite video game OST of all time

Post your favorite song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeLrE1QCmxc
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>>267467060
>it has the same amount of tutorials of Dream Team.

stop making shit up
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>>267467583

Well SSS has the same amount proportionally just the game is shorter.

I mean the tutorial with the Starshade Bros and for the Mini and Mole powerups are longer and as long as the rest of the area you use the powers in.
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>>267467834
thing is, DT has elements from every single game before it that need explaining, while each game before has a lot less

and THEN it needs to go explain all the area minigames and dream luigi stuff

it's way more, and they feel longer too
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>>267468121
What people don't get is that half of those tutorials can be skipped though. In the first section of the game they can't be skipped but more you go on, more tutorials get optional.
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>>267466159
DT was pretty shit. I cab't believe that the fourth game is rehashing all those settings and dream world is simply ugly and boring.
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>>267468768
But most of them aren't. I was overjoyed to see them being able to be skipped in the later part of the game, only for them to immediately dump a tutorial afterwards that isn't able to be skipped at all.

Either way, skipping holds true for all games (you can skip everything that's not a minigame in SSS, say).
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>>267468786
>dream world is simply ugly and boring
Nope
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>>267464631
They were originally handheld and console variants on the rpg thing, but since PM was brought in to save the 3DS I'm not sure if it's a console game at all anymore
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>>267465426
PiT was great.
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SSS>>>>BiS>>>shit>>>the other two

The only good one is SSS, which is a masterpiece.
BiS is average at best, and the other two are shit.
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>>267469134
The dream world itself is fun, too bad the boss fights kind of suck

what's the point of making them so repetitive if you can't even use any sort of stats or something
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>>267469134
>2D platforming filled with gimmicks that drags on and on with tutorial after tutorial for no reason other than going "HAY LOOK AT ALL THIS COOL NEW STUFF LOL"
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>>267466018
>tfw my cousin actually bought me one of those
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I'm with you guys on the gripes about DT but I'm sure that we can all agree that /fit/ mountain was a fun as fuck area
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>>267466293
That's an unfair thing to say. The only way for someone to know about this kind of inside joke through this website is to either ask directly or look for someone who actually answers when someone else asks, and if everyone has that "I'm not telling you, find out yourself" attitude, they'll never fucking find out about it
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>>267465426
I know it's the opinion of everyone.

But IMO BiS has to many boring minigames that were multiple times during the storyline, Mario and Luigi parts inside bowser were a little boring and some Giant battles were the incarnation of glitch (using fire was almost impossible during the Fawful train battle)
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>>267469864
lurk moar newfag
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>>267464468
I just made a new SSS game yesterday as well
played it all night until the emulator died on me
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>>267466159
Everyone is saying that but BiS has 100 UNSKIPPABLE tutorials.
Starlow is asking "are you sure" tricky loops everytime
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People like to pretend DT is the worst M&L series, like Other M and Syicker Star levels of shit. When instead it is easily on par with BiS which is inferior to SSS anyway.

Graphics:
DT> BiS> PiT> SSS
Music:
DT=SSS> BiS> PiT
Story:
BiS> SSS> DT> PiT
Gameplay:
SSS> BiS=DT> PiT
Tutorial:
SSS> BiT> PiT> DT

The only thing that DT does bad are the tutorials. Everything else is simply good.
However I noticed that BiS fans are really obnoxious and most of the time can't accept that a game can do something better than "the game of muh husbando" (well except SSS).
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>>267469864

>they'll never fucking find out about it

Yes, and?
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>>267470351
>People like to pretend DT is the worst M&L series, like Other M and Syicker Star levels of shit.

no, they don't, they don't even do that with PiT

go away
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>>267470351
Music I'd have to put SSS at the top, its too fucking good
DT has some great shit too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHzuDCVOfgY
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>>267469864
Or maybe they could look at more than four threads and see it take place for themselves.
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>>267470483
this remix is fucking awful
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>>267467041
Superstar Saga is the only good M&L game.
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>have to cry myself to sleep every night knowing I will play nothing quite like SSS ever again

I've replayed it at least 30 times, played the Hard Mode Hack at least 12.
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>>267466889
I love that combo
http://gifsound.com/?gif=i.4cdn.org/v/1413106534474.gif&v=XCvYVL1FySc
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>>267472185
http://gifsound.com/?gif=i.4cdn.org/v/1413106534474.gif&v=VOC0ig2Rk1g

I'll do you one better
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>>267472185
I love this more
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>>267467368
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGdvT1B-VN8

>they start using Bros. moves against you
>you defeat one of them before they can pull any off
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>>267472472
I fucking loved the stupid Rookie & Popple story, it was one of the best parts of an already great game

I should replay it on an emulator and make some webms
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>>267470351
You need to count in that DT is the fourth game in the series, and simply doesn't deliver at all. What's with nintendo games being judged on equal footing and not as sequels? This is why people have gripes with nintendo in the first place, the games have varying quality from ok to great but only rarely a sequel truly delivers and blows the predecessor out of the water. Considering this, I believe dream team to be an embarrassment and the series to be disappointing. I don't see the point to play anything after SSS because the sequels are not better by any means and not unique enough to give a new experience. It's mostly that the gimmicks are the selling point, and that's just sad.
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>>267472472
Popple looks like he has a giant boner
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DT would've been way better if the Pillo'o people weren't such gigantic bores

The Beanish in SSS had a lot of personality to them, even the most dumb NPC ones, and Prince Peasley and the Queen were really fun to be around.

Meanwhile, the Pillo'o prince guy and the architects and everyone else is just so dull

i'm sure they weren't meant to be sleep inducing in this way
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>>267472787
In my language it's implied that the ultibed guy is gay.
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>>267473116
I think that's in any language

but they are both such uninteresting characters that it doesn't matter anyway
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>>267473243
Yeah they are boring.
But I found it really strange to find this type of character in Mario.
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I love SMRPG.

Which of these inferior "successors" would be worth my time?
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>>267473343
really?
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>>267473376
The thousand year door and Superstar Saga. This are the best games of their series and the rest is just more of the same but worse.
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>>267473343
Eh it's not the first time. Birdo started out as a male to female trans character, and still is considered as such in Japan. Same with >>267473432
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>>267473376
SSS and TTYD are both better games than SMRPG

nothing else tops it though
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>>267473376
man smrpg is a fuckugly game
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>>267473470
Super Paper Mario offers somewhat of an unique experience and might be worth it.
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>>267473376
The Mario & Luigi games were made by the same people who made Mario RPG. They're also more similar than Paper Mario. They're your best bet.
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tfw you only have 4100 club nintendo points and the yoshi plushie is 5000 ;___________;
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>>267463829
I hate this.
This is the worst meme.
It doesn't develop it just stays there doing nothing.
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>>267473481
>>267473432
Gotta add to be fair, actual gay characters in Japan are much rarer than trans characters. It's a pretty damn homophobic country all in all, so usually when you see it it's played for laughs, not seriously.
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>>267473658
>Luigi's Mansion diorama comes on Club Nintendo
>First good reward in years
>it's 1500 fucking clams
>scrounge up all the loose games I haven't registered
>manage to get up to 1000 but still not enough
>it gets sold out
>it was limited and will never ever be avaliable again
You don't know pain. At least you eurofags have rewards to spend things on. I still have those coins sitting in my account for like a year with nothing to use it on.
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>>267474050
> At least you eurofags have rewards to spend things on.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

;_;
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>>267474253
EU really isnt that terrible.
Never had a problem with spending my points.
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>>267474253
You niggers get soundtracks and Yoshi plushes.
You don't even know.
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>>267474459
but you can get games with this premium shit. i can buy this fucking yoshi plush in 3 stores in my city
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>>267474352
that's like the only worthwhile thing in the shop though

the rest is junk
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>>267474352
>>267474459
I don't know where you live, but the star catalogs are split up (for some reason). The Yoshi thing is the first decent reward in fucking years here. They're still selling Wii Points.
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>>267474542
The games are all old roms and indie shovelware
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>>267474352
>>267474459
You can get fucking games when we get hugely expensive rewards maybe once a year at most. So nah.
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>>267474673
>posters

but that's some good shit right there
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>>267474604
They usually have one good thing up and when it sells out they put up something else.

Didnt get the Yoshi because I have no use for a doll, but I recently got that Zelda bag thing for my GBA SP, charger and games and that 3DS game case.

Useful stuff.
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Nintendo club shit is worth maybe 1-5 bucks.
Shit is not even well made or rare.
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>>267472472
This shit. This is a 10/10 soundtrack
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>>267474459
>>267474253
>>267474050
>>267473658
>Redeemed my Super Smash Bros 3DS code
>Can't find my 3DS code
I want my free Kirby game. Jesus christ.
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>>267475961
I hope you find it, Triple Deluxe is great.
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>>267475214
who cares it's free shit and I was going to buy those games even if the whole points thing didn't exist
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>>267476031
Poorfags gonna poor.
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>>267473698
That explains Persona 4 then.
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>>267476242
it actually does

people play that as some big progressive arc in modern video games, but there was no fucking way he was actually going to end up being gay
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>>267476024
I'm almost positive I won't find it. I bought my 3DS many years ago, and my room is a mess so I don't know where to look for it.
I probably threw it away along with the box it came in.
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>>267476420
You could try registering the serial code on the back of the 3DS. I'm pretty sure that works.
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>>267464631
As someone who played Thousand Year Door and Superstar Saga around the same time, they are both GOTYAY JRPGs. They're all worth playing at the very least.
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>>267474821
Yeah, notice they're fucking sold out.
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>>267463829
test
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>>267476462
You also need another code, actually. There's two codes.
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>>267476398
Well I mean it went over-the-top stereotype during his part of the story like when you see him on the midnight channel.
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>>267473556
Youngin' detected. In '96 it held its own against the 5th gen systems.
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>>267467368
This. It's just so good.
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>>267477947
i played it when it came out, fucker

doesn't mean it aged well

it's like the official DKC art
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SSS > BiS > PiT and still haven't played DT.

rate hate masturbate
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>>267478269
Correct/10
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>>267478269
Slide DT inbetween BiS and PiT and you are as correct as it gets.
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>>267478269
It's where you will place DT that will show what kind of persion you are.

So far it's correct.
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SSS > DT = BIS > PiT

I can't choose between DT and BIS.
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>>267478707
You are probably the only sane persion in this thread.

I really don't see how one with a brain can put BiS above DT. They are easily on par.
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>>267478810
better writing and gameplay
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>>267469864
Newfag here. Enlighten me pls.
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>>267479186
Writing is arguable. It is basically the same. Gameplay, yes.
But DT has better music and visuals.

Tl; dr: they are on par.
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I loved PiT and BS but I only just realized SSS existed. I just downloaded the rom and will play it now, pretty excited.
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>>267479585
>visuals
Not really, the environment looks like shit in both the dream and normal world. They used some washed out colors. BIS has the good old colorful sprites everywhere. Dream Team has also too many tutorials and too much handholding and that's for the fourth game in the series on a new handheld.
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>>267479585
>dividing a game up into parts means all are equal

sorry, gameplay > all else

and no, the writing in DT is dull as shit (luigi parts are good, Pi'illo are garbage) while in BiS it's pretty consistently great
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when will we get the wario and waluigi rpg?
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>>267479863
Holy shit anon I envy you, you're in for a great time.
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>>267479863
It's easily the best one, enjoy it.
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>>267480094
waluigi is not a real character, so never
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>>267480094
Never
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>>267480094
not in a million years
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>>267480094
How would that even work? What would the story be? Someone steals Wario's money and he tags Waluigi along to steal it back?
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>>267480094
Hopefully we will never get a Mario RPG again. They already raped the series too much.
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>>267480094
I wonder how that would be. Waluigi doesn't really have any defining personality traits so it would be interesting to see what they do with him.

Who would you want to develop it? AlphaDream?
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>>267480280
The hell is wrong with you?
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>>267480443
Just don't want another fuckup with obligatory 10 hour tutorial and rehashed content and a new gimmick.
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>>267480246
I'm sure AlphaDream could make some crazy scenario. I'd just want to play as anti-heroes for a change. I can't think of many jrpgs where you do.
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>>267480150
>>267480172
>>267480196
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>>267463829
God damn it, /v/.

That image just gave me flash backs to when I was a kid and liked to pretend I was Yoshi. I remember sitting in class in second grade and thinking the holes in the back of the chairs was for my hole to go into. I remember thinking that if I was the only Yoshi in class that it would be super embarrassing having a tail when no one else did. And that's only making me remember more shit from my childhood.
I just remembered trying to get my friend to call me Yoshi and ride on my back the one time he came over to my house.

Why did you have to post this?
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>>267482190
haha
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>people pretend to enjoy DT's combat
>boss fights literally boil down to shitty gyroscope minigames
Hahaha good one friends! It's almost as fun as those epic minigames in BiS! I sure love pointless 2D platforming!!
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My order: SSS > DT > BiS > PiT

DT barely beats out BiS for doing its concepts in a more interesting way for the majority of the game, plus the great setting, but the pacing is fucking glacial and I was pissed off about how they treated Antasma.
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>>267482619
Yeah, the first one is the only one that got everything right.
Now they're just recycle the bro moves.

Also am I the only one who HATES how they removed the "switch Mario and Luigi's position" feature?
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>>267483210
Eh, not really. The latest games are already overly complicated, and it's alright to take some stuff like that out (not that I wouldn't rather have that instead of something else, though.
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>>267469864
I've managed to figure out most inside jokes without an explanation or source and I've only been here a little more than 2 years.
Seriously just lurk moar, you'll understand eventually
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>>267483210
I liked that but that's because SSS was built around that mechanic for puzzle solving and movement.
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>>267483210
Honestly, having Mario and Luigi separate just made me upset when one came back from their segment so much higher leveled than the other bro.
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I was really amazed with M&L Superstar Saga, such an impressive game for the GBA.

I was definitely let down with PiT and after that I didn't buy another game in the series.

Also just found out I lost 1500 stars in the star catalog, fucking bullshit Nintendo is pulling on me.
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>>267467170
>Doing all the master challenges was fun too
God, fuck those, after doing all the challenges in BiS? Never again. Bowser's were such bullshit with the goddamn touch screen fuck.
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>>267469228

>Paper Mario was on a handheld
>mfw the prospect of Mario & Luigi 5 on Wii U to complete the swapover
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>>267466582
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>>267480246

Wario's fallen on hard times, his castle is repossessed. He decides to rob Mushroom Castle, but comes across Mario and Luigi. While they're fighting (which is the tutorial) Bowser swoops in and defeats them from behind before taking Peach. Toadsworth, in desperation, promises Wario a handsome reward for Peach's rescue. Wario, sensing an opportunity for a reward, the restoration of his pride of being the stronkest in the land, and the prospect of additional loot from Bowser's castle, agrees; however, he wants all the reward for himself, so begins scheming for a way to remove Waluigi from the picture - not knowing that Waluigi has had the same idea. So begins a journey of alternating between brofists and backstabs, teamwork and teamkills, and ripping off every dumb schmuck they run into along the way.

Wario & Waluigi: A Friend In Greed.
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>>267487969

Yeah fucking right.

>calling the game that came out on the 3DS a Paper Mario game.

There was a Mario and Luigi on 3DS already too.
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>>267487969
I want Paper Mario All-Stars HD

With all the Paper Mario games in HD on one disc
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I like to challenge myself when playing through SSS and not fight any enemies. I reach mama piranha at like lv7. Once you know all the combos it's too easy so this adds a different level of gameplay
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>>267488663
8/10 would play
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>>267488663
wheres m&l during this tho
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>>267471814
SSS Hard Mode Pack?
Do tell!
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>>267480534
This. Super Star Saga was something special, but every game that came after it just seems to be a water-down disappointment that's "almost" as good. BiS is a perfect example, they figure out people liked Fawful, so they shoved him down our throats in the most overdone way possible. On top of that, half the game lacks the charm the first game had, that shitty yellow star character is incredibly predictable, shallow, and unlikable for example.

The games are only really seen as good because people are just thankful they aren't as shitty as PiT. They have the same amount of complexity, but are somehow bloated with so much more tutorials, and halting walls of text / exposition. The gameplay feels like they're scrambling to figure out what they did right with SSS and failing ever so slightly every time. On top of all of this, you have a series that can't even surpass the original game in multiple installments, and with 2 full console hardware upgrades.

How is that the sign of a good series?
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I still find it hilarious that you guys refer to Superstar Saga as SS to avoid confusing it with Sticker Star. Nobody's gonna confuse it in a M&L thread and it's Superstar, not Super Star.
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>>267490413
I agree, added clarity is fucking hilarious. Man, look at that extra letter, gets me rolling on the floor every time. So much effort wasted!
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Ajeto!
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>>267490302
They also feel incredibly linear compared to the first game. Are there even side quests in dream team? Dropped it after 9 hours.
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>>267491649
I honestly can't remember any other sidequest in the first game besides that surfing minigame. And there are still minigames in the new games.
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SSS > rest

This is the only correct order.
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>>267490926
This. How is the addition of one simple letter that could identify the game among ALL of the other mario RPGs "hilarious" in any way? Brain damage?
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>>267491172
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Q2kskHBtg
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I'm surprised this actually turned into a M&L thread.
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>>267490413
OH FUCK I thought it was skyward sword
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>>267492417
What did you expect? People a 200+ post thread on a meme that people have been sick of already for months?
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I really enjoyed much of the music in this game, the boss battles were fine and some of the background themes were pretty damn good too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqQdhDbSY5Q
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>>267480094
Wario and Luigi treasure hunting.
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>>267489719
Competing to rescue Peach.

Peach, meanwhile, has teamed up with Daisy, who Bowser kidnapped by mistake and they break out of jail.

Bowser then teams up with DK to try to kidnap princesses.

Gameplay alternates between all four pairs.
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>>267482619
>stop liking what I don't like
ok
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>>267493684
Hearing this tune coming out of the tiny GBA speaker was so satisfying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dro_RfKbfOs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4ByWdGulPI
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>That kid who played as Yoshi in Mario Kart grew up to be a homo
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>Want to barrel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxsPeRT0wbc
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>>267492417
OP here, I started it this way on purpose. /v/ hates to tall about videogames but can never resist stale memebait. Plus I'm re playing SSS and it's still so fresh
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>>267467041
Are BiS and DT really that bad? I've only played SSS and PiT, and the latter was so bad that I just lost interest in the series. I heard BiS was actually good, could never be bothered to playing it, but if it's worse than PiT... I guess that means SSS was just a one hit wonder and the series as a whole is crap with one exception.
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>>267463829
I don't get it.
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Son, ya dancing?
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>>267490302
All DT needed was to drop the pseudo-Bros Items and the tutorials. After that it would have held up to SSS fairly well.

As for the Paper Mario series, IntSys just needs to get their heads out of their asses and make a fucking decent game.
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>>267473556
That shit is trippy and awesome. Not everything has to look like New Super Mario Bros or Yoshi's Island.
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>>267494115
that's my favorite meme!
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>>267494230
>Are BiS and DT really that bad?
No, they are fine, people just exaggerating things.
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>>267494230
No, BIS and DT are much better than PiT.

SSS is still the champ though.
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>>267494531
Some guy decided to falseflag and samefag his own posts to make a epic maymay.
The epic maymay got posted in reddit/4chan page and it became famous on the internet because its just another of those "LOL ONLY IN 4CHAN".

It was never funny, but /v/ is full of try hard kids who want to fit in no matter what, so thats why you see "haha" every time a yoshi is posted.
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>>267493972

I love this track so much.
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>>267491649
>>267494717
I was pretty much just speaking on the first 3. I got through most of BiS but I lost interest when I picked other games and never felt the need to finish it. You could argue something like >>267494896 and say they "aren't bad" but they're mediocre to the point where the only reason to even pay attention to them is because they have Mario characters. Aside from that, they don't really offer much of a unique experience that you couldn't just get from playing the first one.
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>>267494115
It is a scientifically proven fact that 96% of Yoshi mains will suck a dick at least once in their lives.
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>>267495212
I'm the 4%
My own doesn't count, does it?
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>>267495212
An online study proved that 100% of online studies are made up.
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>>267495358
Even that one.
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>>267495046
Essentially this. What makes it even more embarrassing is that the meme was something obscure that nobody really payed attention to, then a long while after it explodes and not a single thread that involved Yoshi didn't also have "haha" shitposting in it. Coincidentally if you googled it at that time, it was right around when the shitty meme finally got it's own KYM page, so that gives you an idea of who really finds this shit funny.
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>>267495313
it's a dick anon, a dick is a dick
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>>267495313
can you actually?
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>>267495197
I agree. I appreciate the main Mario games like 64, Sunshine, Galaxy and World because each title is really unique. I just can't appreciate the new super mario series or the Mario RPGs.
If the series would consist of Mario RPG, Superstar Saga and Thousand Year Door it would be god tier tough.
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>>267495610
Just the tip

>>267495449
But it's not like I'm pleasing another guy or anything.
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>>267464153
everyone loves when yoshi pops out eggs
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>>267495703
You should really give NSMBU/NSLU a shot. I've been playing Mario games for nearly 30 years and those two together, besides being worlds better than other "New" titles actually are on par with Super Mario World.
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>>267495905
It's gay as fuck anon, one day I sucked mine a lot and came in my mouth, was not what I was expecting, it seemed better on porn
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>>267469330

Said nobody ever.
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>>267466690
i can hear the music in my head
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lel
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>>267496105
Seriously. I'd say that besides Final Fantasy 2, it was the least enjoyable RPG I've ever beaten. Especially when you remember what a terrible addition the babies were, and how battles boiled down to the shittiest and most repetitive bro moves, combined with annoying boss attacks.
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Can anyobody explain why PiT is shit?

People only seem to mention that it isn't SSS, and that the babies are annoying. How is this game not on par with BIS?

I do agree that SSS is the better one, though. Have not played DT.
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>>267496625
it's good but /v/ hates it because enemies have waaaaay too much HP
also the items let you deal some insane amounts of damage
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>>267464153
oviposition fetish
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>>267496602
I've beaten lots of mediocre RPGs, I don't think PiT even cracks my bottom ten. With a few tweaks it could go from meh to very good, but I feel like they really rushes the game.
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>>267496003
NSMBW, NSMBU, and NSLU are great. Newer Super Mario Bros Wii is also great, but of course that one isn't official.

NSMB and NSMB2 were garbage. I guess the series can only be shit on handhelds. I initially ignored NSMBW for a time, because I bought NSMB day one and it was trash. It was the first 2D Mario game in years, and everyone was rabid, but I was still thoroughly unimpressed.

The same thing happened with Super Mario Galaxy, to a lesser extent. I was pretty meh with the first game, I didn't expect Super Mario Galaxy 2 to win me over. But since NSMBW was so much better than the DS game, I thought maybe the sequel to Galaxy would be much the same and I should take a chance. And I'm glad I followed my gut with that one.
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>>267496625
PiT is not shit, it's by far the leasy favorite of the four. The babies are annoying and the game is too short.
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>>267496789
>too much hp
>too much damage
I take it you don't necessarily share those opinions, but that's a contradiction if I ever saw any.
Anybody who genuinely holds BIS as a far superiour game care to reply and explain?

>>267497408
The game's not much shorter than any other in the series. Why are the babies annoying? Going on a limb here, but do the babies also make you dislike Yoshi's Island (the game, not the PiT level)?
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>>267496789
>it's good but /v/ hates it
The obligatory excuse anyone uses for liking a mediocre game. The most repetitive battles, unsatisfying bosses, mediocre music, the game feels padded overall when you combine this with the fact that most of the puzzles are just things like sending the babies somewhere to avoid enemies and hit a switch with a hammer. If your idea of a fun boss is knocking a green shell back and forth by alternating buttons and repeating upwards of 10 times then you probably have some sort of mental defect.

The game isn't "shit" but hardly worth a play, if there was a random NIS RPG with the exact same mechanics and anime aesthetics it'd immediately be labelled as shovelware.
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>>267496789
>>267496625
It's alright. It's pretty linear and there's not much outside of the main areas compared to SSS or Bowser (Havent played Dream Team). It's also pretty short, and the Bro items do deal tons of damage, but the only enemy with lots of HP was the final boss, so the bro items are pretty broken in that sense.
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>>267497854
Every single boss had its HP doubled to prolong the battles.
Also did the first game had any sidequests? I seriously can't remember. I'm remembering everything you do, but it's all to advance the story.
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>>267495446
The same people who browse KYM. The same people who browse /v/. The same people who liked doge/jimmies or the same people who keep doing the "HE" threads.
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>>267465496
>>267464153
Why isn't this a tv show yet!? They even had animated commercials that looked amazing
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>>267497375
NSMB was garbage on DS, which made me sad. I too bought it day one because it was the first 2d Mario in about a decade. It was slow and floaty and just felt safe. I won't say it was soulless, because that's a complaint that I think is overused and under explained.

NSMB2 had potential and it was squandered. The actual platform mechanics felt okay (way better than the first NSMB) but the level design was so weak and the gimmick was unnecessary. All a Mario platformer needs in my opinion is rock solid movement physics and top notch level design. Hell, I wish Nintendo had a dedicated team to make NSLU style expansion packs for NSMBU. Use the game as a platform for more excellent 2D Mario content at a reasonable price.

New Super Peach U with levels built around her floating mechanic? Bring it on. $20 for 80+ levels is great value. Plus it affords level designers the opportunity to really go nuts and make hard levels with unique hooks.
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>>267494230
BiS is great but it can slog a bit around the xray section

DT just feels like a slog the whole way through and condescending as all fuck and Im getting sick of its shit more than PiT at this point
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>>267498152
Do you really need to be reminded of what happens when video games, especially those of the Nintendo variety, get their own animated series?
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>>267468768
You skip like maybe 5 tutorials in DT up until after the second giant fight

I just started playing this thing and Im about to throw it out the window
>Explains bros move again
>Explains luiginary
>explains bros move
>Explains hammer
>Explains luiginary
>Decides to let me figure out luiginary this one time
>Explains the next luiginary anyway
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>>267473470
He's right
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>>267494230
>>267498198
Inside Story could have been greatly improved by completely removing Starlow from it altogether. The amount of shitty banter and needless tutorials / explanations supplied by that character made the game so much worse.
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>>267498296
Well Nintendo needs to actually be a part of the project. Thats why the Sonic Boom show will actually be good
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>>267498506
oh god yes please get rid of fucking starlow

jesus christ I hate her so much. She's become the "voice" of the bros now because they can't talk for themselves even though in SSS/PiT that's what cut down the dialogue by half and made it feel so faster
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>>267495197
DT introduced some good combat mechanics though, namely the defensive action commands. It was by far the best defensive combat in the series, which if it were combined with SSS style Bros Moves, it would have been amazing.
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Speaking of tail-holes

Do you think Amy's panties have a hole for her tail or do her panties ride up just under her tail?
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>>267473680
>worst meme
>>267498112
>KYM

When you really think of the nature of these memes you can easily think of who would be behind them. They aren't intended to be inherently funny, just "jokes" that are only good for shitposting or derailing discussions. Half them are just flatout created just to make people mad or ironically shitpost.

>>267497863
Is a perfect example of this. Then you have games like Borderlands that purposely create shitty meme characters that are meant for you to dislike. Why even bother?
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>>267498837
I give you that DT introduced some needed new defensives, idk if they would all work in normal battles though with both bros

though moving up and down feels silly anyway. I do like the new hammer stuff though
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>>267498724
>Sonic Boom
>good

Really, anon?
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>>267467368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXH-wtr9QWY
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>>267499395
I see you an Oho Ocean and raise you a Oho Oasis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbBnqb6mVW0
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>>267498907
There is also the rekt and that ascii face posted 24/7 on online games.
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>>267498813
The character sprites for the bros are so expressive that they really don't need to talk. The other characters talking is more than sufficient.
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>>267498813
I feel like if I didn't get through about 6 hours of that game at the airport / on the planes I traveled on I wouldn't have even gotten as far as I did. Starlow in general, and the constant monologues from other characters made the game almost unbearable when paired with the tutorials, they took the least pleasant character and gave her the most lines besides maybe Bowser or Fawful. That's another thing that makes the game dreadful, Fawful was fun for the few one liners he had, and just being a cheesy henchman. This game overdoes it so hard that Fawful is annoying by his 4th appearance once his little speech gimmick stops being entertaining. It's as if they heard people wanted Fawful in Smash, so they just dedicated a whole game to him for a maximum circle-jerk. Where PiT was lacking things, BiS' problem was greatly overdoing them. I haven't played Dream Team because I don't wanna play it before I finish BiS, but honestly I feel like if it's just gonna be more of the same like the other two seem to be so I have no motivation to actually buy the game.

In my opinion, if you really wanted something closer to the goofy and quirky atmosphere of the original M&L game, you're better off just playing Earthbound or Mother 3.
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>>267469864
I've only been here since summer and I've seen in posted. The best way to find out really is lurking.
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>>267490302
>The other games are good but not as good
>THIS MEANS ALL THE GAMES BUT THE FIRST ONE ARE PIECES OF SHIT
Really?
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>>267498506
>>267498813
>>267499913
>>267500062

SSS was best because the Mario Bros. just explained things in pictures. Don't know where they got this idea that they need a mouthpiece.
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I wish Cackletta didn't die, she was a very entertaining villain.

And I like the she kind of contrasted bowser.
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>>267500442
/v/ often has trouble with the concept that games can be good but not great.

Obviously this isn't all of /v/ but a lot of posters have that mentality.
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>>267499913
thats what I meant (Im tired sorry)

the bros usually expressed themselves fine, starlow basically exists for plot purposes
in 3 she was bowser's conscious, even though they probably couldve done creative shit with the bros and make it more subtle

in 4 she has to manipulate luigi in sleep, idk how they couldve changed that.

She could do this without blabbing constantly though

>>267500062
it's making me sad that Im developing buyer's remorse over a mario RPG man. BiS wasn't too bad with starlow because seeing bowser argue with his subconscious was funny at some points.

DT it's just stupid, like even after she gains an understanding of the dreamworld she still seems abusive towards luigi for no reason and just stays skeptical of it.

DT just introduced too many mechanics while keeping the old SSS formula of giving a tutorial to all of them. SSS forces maybe 3 tutorials on you while DT forces all but maybe 4-5 on you, and you get one for ANY new mechanic.

I think the game wanted to explain to me how to heal at some point after I had been in several battles already. Did SSS even go that far?
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>>267499913
The problem though is the game could more or less function completely the same without Starlow. Realistically her existence is pretty much because Nintendo doesn't just the player to not be retarded and understand what's going on based on visual cues alone.
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>>267500442
>>267500705
or maybe they're disappointed that the games keep getting wordier and somewhat boring

while SSS was basic and fun.
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>Dream Team
>spend the whole game hyping up Antasma as a villain even though he doesn't do much for some reason
>Bowser betrays him and you kill Antasma in an anti-climax and the final boss is yet another Bowser fight

THANKS I GUESS.
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>>267500442
They're mediocre games that only get attention because of the product name and mario characters, and they essentially rehash from the previous titles while having less depth than the original. What you're saying is that a game like PiT would be good if SS didn't exist, which isn't the case. The fact that SS exist, simply makes the game look even worse.
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>>267500743
Given what I hear about Valve playtesters, it's hard to blame Nintendo too much for erring on the side of caution in terms of explaining things, particularly in a game aimed at all ages.

But I will blame Nintendo because kids can be smart and clever and resourceful and figure things out with a gentler guiding hand. They're just contributing to a dumbing down of games with things like Starlow.
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>>267500967
Im not even upset that it was spoiled for me

maybe because I like that ending better than what I figured it would be ant tossing bowser aside or using him and becoming more powerful

that's actually pretty cool
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>>267500967
True final boss is actually Bowser Jr.
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>>267501067
That's complete horse shit.
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>>267501096
ok, that's not the whole issue though

They go half and half in letting you skip them, it feels schizophrenic on the design. It seems stupid that I cant skip any of the luiginary ones but I can skip the in battle ones

hell in dream mountain you get a tutorial for the tornado, explaining it clears away snow stacks, then the rest of the area are box puzzles and one screen where snow covers the screen and you have to use it to blow it off

They made a tutorial for a mechanic that doesn't even fucking come up AFTER the tutorial. I could've skipped it and not been any the wiser.
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