/v/ Why aren't you playing the most fun character in the game

>>267438365

I'm palying Ganodorf. Seeing theothers crumble after each hit is much mroe satisfying.

>>267438365
Why are you playing a game made for children?

>>267438365
That's not Wario.

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>>267438482
But that down tilt

>>267438585
All games are made for children anon

>>267438365
>smash run
>it's a race

Ha!

Also, Bowser Junior is shit, Ludwig is king

>>267438365
Because I'm flipping sausages already

>>267438729
I personally play Roy and only Roy.

He's our boy.

>most fun
OP, did you get mooted?
That's not a pic of Pac Man

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>>267438729
>Not maining Sluttie Pie

Fun is subjective

Because I simply can't get good at the Prince.

I have to just play ROB, Ganondorf, and Link instead.

I have a feeling I'm going to be better at Peach from Space rather than Bowser Jr., unfortunately.

YOWIE

>>267438940
Delicious.

>>267438985
Except for the fun you have when playing as a koopa kid. That fun is objective.

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>Most fun character in the game
>Isn't Ike

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But I am.

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Purin's the nicest to play as.
>not getting a new 3DS and bairing Koopaling players with the best Jigglypuff voice

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>>267439365
>fighting for your friends
>not playing Edge Pit and being a servant to no other but your self

>>267438985
subjective is a buzzword

>>267438729
>Ludwig
My man

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Silly OP, I am

>>267439365
>fighting for friends
>any year
youll get no sympathy from me

>>267438940
>>267438808

As long as it ain't BJ, it's all okay

>>267439563
>hearing "poo" every other second
No thanks.

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>Not playing the character that takes the most skill

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>>267438365
But I am?

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>>267440075
>robin
>skill
Try again.

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>>267438365
>Implying I'm not

Is there ANY way of having the announcer saying ROSSETTA AND CHIKO instead of Rosa/Luma?

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>That fucking hammer after ↑B

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>>267440175

>>267440075
I have never once seen an offensive Robin.
Is he only good for camping or what?

>>267440371
>ill break ur fuckin teeth, king dad

>>267438940
>using the murican name

>they put Namco characters in
>but no Ace Combat stuff in
Why buy this game at all?

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I am.

>>267440354
Buy a JP 3ds

>>267440720
The RNG can suck my dick

>>267440410
Depends on the playing. The best Robin players will switch between magic (defensive) and using the levin sword (offensive) Most people just don't know how to use him.

>>267438365
I feel like falling asleep whenever I fight a Bowser Jr online. Boring as fuck.

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But I already am OP

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>>267438365
>start match by ducking into clown-car-blimp, looking snug in my fort
>Opponent curiously approaches
>Release the detonating koopa toy
>Backs out and spaz dodges an opening for
>BUZZZZZZZZZSAWWWWW
>Hop hop hop
>Back into fort

Everytiem.

>liking bowser jr
literally shit taste

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>Not maining the gorilla himself

>>267440349
my nigga

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>>267441174
Bless your heart.

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Because I'm a tryhard that only wants to win.

>>267438365
but i am

>>267441315
>tfw got into the bad habit of using DDD up b like that because it was catching bads

I think that might have been me, in fact if you cycled through quite a number of characters and your DK was the only one that was any good.

>>267440410

It's fucking terrifying. I hope you never have to see it.

I had one that kept me locked down 90% of the time with arcfire and would then come and combo me into the air and do some crazy powerful sword move that sent me red sparking across the stage.

>>267441174
How do you olimar?

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>>267441879
Is your name matt?

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>>267441315

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>>267441704
my image was consumed for some reason

But I am playing Dedede.

>>267442045
nope. I guess I'm not the only DDD that gets bodied by D/Ks

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>>267438365
But OP

>>267438687
Have you seen what you can do in GTA V? Yep, definitely for children only.

>>267441315

I wanted to but he's so fucking shit in this.

>>267438482
Is Ganon's B projectile invincible or something?

>>267442360
his best feature in my opinion is how his forward b eats shields for breakfast and comes out pretty quickly

>>267438365
Thats not PacMan OP.

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i am playing all of the fun characters in the game, OP

But I already main Jiggs.

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>Implying

>>267438365
I still haven't unlocked him. Shulk is awesome though.

>>267438729
Bowser Jr. being absolute shit is no secret anon.
Alt costumes was the best thing that could have happened to that character

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>>267440075
>implying any of the characters take skill.

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>>267442282

>I only play games made for mature people such as myself.

>>267442536

His startup frames were just way too slow for me on nearly EVERYTHING. Got me eaten up.

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>play this nigga
>use his up taunt just before the timer ends
>now it's Shulk- TIME

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>>267438482
Ganondorf is 100x more fun than he should be given how shitty he is


>all those low % kills
>that new Warlock Punch armor
>gerudo dragon in dtilt errey day
>mid air wizards foot has monstrous knock back

>>267442764
Have you seen someone bad try Rosalina?
They don't have a goddamn clue what to do. They probably can't pat their head and rub their tummy at the same time either.

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>>267438365
Oh, but I do, OP.

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Literally the best possible newcomer.

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>>267438365
but anon that isn't Diddy Kong

>>267442454
Partly

>there are people on /v/ RIGHT NOW that actually think any of the Koopalings are better designed characters than Bowser Jr.

i'm even a huge nostalgiafag and geeked out when i saw the alt costumes but can we be real for a minute here? bowser jr. is absolutely fine when he doesn't speak. so, basically, every time he's even been in a game other than Sunshine.

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>>267441315
playing DK online always ends with me getting juggled off stage for years before eventually dying while completely unable to get a hit in.

He's such a hard character to competently play.

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>>267442958

Shut your whore mouth. It's hard to do rub and pat.

>>267439786
Nice joke anon, not even Jr can be as shit as Wendy and Larry

How can I recover from my enemy's hold? I am mashing all the buttons because I have literally no idea how the fuck can I get off from being grabbed by the enemy while they can get off from me so easily that it took them less than a second before I can do damage to them.

>>267438365
because he's campy as fuck, just like Rosalina and Duck Hunt

>>267443091
>Koopalings are better designed characters than Bowser Jr.

Jr is bowser, but smaller.

It's a terrible design by any standards

>>267441174

>TFW Olimar got nerfed in virtually every way.

The man canoniclly got 100% in Pikmin 2 without save scumming, he deserves better.

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>>267438365
because his character design is retarded

look at my simply better choice for a main, an OP dash attack and the best alt costume in the game

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>>267443232
oh, you're right. look at bowser and bowser jr. here, up to no good as usual.

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>>267443091
This, all the koopalings just look retarded to me, except Roy, since his glasses hide his retardation, and Morton, because he actually is meant to be a big lovable retard.

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>not having the same main since 64

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>>267443463
God damn it anon

>>267442903
>>267438687
>dtilt
what are you people talking about

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how do you git gud at the Doc?
What are some basics?

>>267443634
tilt your stick down, and press a

>>267443634

down tilt.

as in the attack characters do when you tilt the control stick down and then attack

>>267443634
Not really dtilt itself but you can combo it from Gerudo Dragon against people who can't tech

>>267440620

Generally one buys crossover games based on the GOOD games they rep.

>>267443091

How the fuck are they NOT better designed.

They're simple and distinct.

Bowser Jr. is LITERALLY Bowser but in Jr. form and only exists so they could keep using the Baby Bowser design.

>>267443104
I know what you mean. The split second delay is so frustrating when playing a slower character that relies on reads.

But that wont stop me. I still fucking love playing as him.

>>267443158
>>267443158
>>267443158
>>267443158

It's a shame about Olimar's nerfs. He's still fun to use, but it's tough.

>>267442282
Exactly. Only children are impressed by dark and edgy. Why do you think Call of Duty is so popular?

>>267443104

That's why I had to drop him. I was so fucking hype for DK in this game and he's just sooooooooooooooo..........slooooooooooooooooooooow..........on everything. The start up frames kill him and he just gets juggled to shit before he can do anything at all.

>>267443575
It's not my fault they made mario and captain falcon suck so much dick

>>267444047
mash l and r

the higher % you the less you can resist

>>267438365
jr. can be pretty scary in the right hands. I fought some that were pretty good fights.

>>267443840
>Gerudo Dragon
Are you talking about >B?
Because that hasn't been a gerudo dragon since melee

>>267443726
1. Pill to bring them into your range
2. Juggle with throws and aerials
3. Tilts to knock them the fuck away if they're up in your face
4. Take them by surprise with the very tip of your slide
5. Down B is great for breaking up contact and for kickstarting an aerial combo
6. Cape only if you're 90% sure you can land it/make it back, otherwise you're setting yourself up for disaster
7. Take them by surprise with a well timed Up B, it can kill easily over 100% on most characters

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>>267444151
>DK is a slower, lighter bowser with fewer armor frames and less kill moves

Why did they decide that captain falcon isn't a fast runner anymore?

>>267444305
Is gimping with the Sheet even worth it with Doc?

FAIR and DAIR are fantastic kill moves already

>>267439576

That's not even edge.

Whats the strategy for dark pit /v/?

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r8 my mains amigos

>>267443995
Larry has a nice design.
Lemmy is okay but but looks literally mentally impaired and the hair is goofy.
Iggy's hair, eyes, and teeth look awful.
Roy's glasses are the stupidest thing I've ever laid eyes upon and people only like him because le ironic pink colors :^)
Morton is not too bad but he barely even looks like a koopa.
Ludwig is pretty decent I suppose.
And Wendy just looks like absolute shit, with those dumbass lips and bitch-eyes.

Bowser Jr. looks like Bowser's son - what he's supposed to be. And he is way more distinct personality-wise than any of the Koopalings, I personally find it adorable that he's this little punk and even wears the little bandana with scary teeth drawn on it to (I'm assuming) pull over his mouth and seem intimidating.

Bowser Jr. is cool.

>>267444390

He's got shieldbreakers, a bury, a dunk and better recovery, I'd say he's got a nice niche on Bowser..

Link's the one who should feel bad.

>>267444527
Get them to high percents, kill with side b
Stop edgeguards with down b
up b is a godlike recovery

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>>267443463

If you just did a color profile it'd look remarkably similar.

>>267444591
purple/10

>>267444424
So sonic can be even faster looking

>>267444591
all boring except the pac

>>267444390
less kill moves. lol no. back air to back air kills at like 60%. Plus he punishes stupid over rolling dicks with up down tilts and bdown. up air kills at like 90% and the dong punch is a good surprise/nerve wracking pressure move. Just powering it up spooks people and makes them screw up. Plus it murders ledge hangers if they try to roll on stage or short hop aerial on.

>>267444681

Down b when your opponent tries to recover?

Edge guarding is going to be a big winning factor in this game since people survive for days.

>>267444490
Depends on the character, really. Anyone with a horizontal recovery or a damageless recovery is easy prey if you can set it up right. I rush out to the edge if I'm at a high percent already and don't want to risk getting smashed around the middle of the stage.

>>267444608

So basically you just can't handle designs that aren't supposed to be super serious is what I'm reading.

>>267444591
>No purple Pac/10

>>267438365
Come back when you have a jet hammer

>>267444608
>Lemmy is okay but but looks literally mentally impaired

that seems pretty intentional given his characterization as an insane retard manchild

>>267444880
i didn't mean goofy as in literally silly i meant goofy as in it looks bad / off

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>>267444305
don't forget up+b kills and fast falling neutral aerials all day

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But I am
>best projectile
>best counter
>best recover
>once damaged does more damage than little mac

>>267444591

What program do you use for that?

>>267445271
it was a wallpaper generator, don't have the link. just plugged in the high res alt costume pics and it did it for you

I'm decent at Ganondorf but shit at Captain Falcon. What should I do?

>>267444665

Bowser's butt is a shieldbreaker.

And their recoveries are nearly identical kinda a moot point.

All DK really has on him are meteor smashes which come out so slow it's a non-issue.

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>>267444665
>>267444853
Don't forget his oh so satisfying fair and dair.

>>267445506
pick a good character instead of either of those

>>267443840
Called the flame choke

>>267438729
>implying people play as Bowser jr, and not his infinitely cooler brothers and sister

So since this game is obnoxiously centered around rolling and shielding and it's impossible to kill people until like 150% who is a character that can punish rolling/shield bitches and has good edge-guarding game so I can gimp them to death.

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I am maining Rosalina
Also she shits on lil Mac and You run into lil Mac players all the damn time.

>>267445629
>>267444282
oh jeez.

I didn't play Ganondorf in brawl and I didn't know it changed names

>>267445670
Grab, pummel, throw off stage

>>267445729
>battling cancer with cancer
congrats anon you now have doublecancer

>>267445729
Shulk shits on Little Mac
C. Falcon shits on Little Mac
Marth shits on Little Mac
Everybody shits on Little Mac if you aren't shit

>>267445729
She shits on everyone, didn't you see the tournament?

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>>267442903
>ganon vs zss
>zss down throws me and tries to follow up with up b
>i manage to double jump out of its range
>wizard's foot right into her face for a KO

>>267438365
But he's my secondary main.

>>267445729
Anyone can shit on Little Mac, it's just that Rosalina has an easier time doing it.

I mean, I play Ludwig and I shat all over a Little Mac earlier today. Two stocked him three times without going over 20% because most Little Mac's never learn the fundamentals of fighting. They're just like 'GOSH I CAN RUN AT ENEMIES AND SMASH ATTACK AND WIN HOLY SHIT' and then come up against someone who knows better and loses.

I pretty much predicted that Little Mac would be neutralized once we learned his shit, it's just not widespread yet. In due time.

>>267442587
>>267444591
URL for these?

I've been in a hole for a few weeks

>not maining a Liu Kang brawler mii

>>267445918
Nope was out. I only started playing her because I find her play style very fun.

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I would've much rather liked it if the vehicle fighter in this game was Eggman instead.

>>267443123
>hating on Larry
Well, fuck you too
At least we can agree that Wendy is a cunt

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>spiking foes with Kirby's D-air
>comboing D-air into Up tilt
>last hit after the rapid jab is a projectile
>hammer can be charged for more damage compared to the last 2 games
>guranteed wins against Little Macs
I don't know what you faggots are doing by not playing as Kirby, but I can tell you that he feels so fucking good this time around.

>>267445575

Great moves but good luck landing them.

>>267446187
The Japanese don't like antagonists. They only like protagonists. It's very rare when antagonists get popularity.

Only reason Bowser Jr. got in was because Miyamoto probably demanded it.

>>267438365

That's not Dick Hunt OP

>>267446623
>people will actually believe this
That Zeon fetish sure isn't a thing at all.

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>>267446321
Some people put him on low tiers or even call the hammer useless, can you believe it?
like, he's not highest for sure, but he sure as hell isn't on the lowest tier, and landing that hammer feels so good

>>267446728
Wow, one antagonist in a sea of antagonists.

Can you name any others, anon?

>>267445829

That didn't answer any part of my question. Thanks for nothing.

>>267446792
Dio

>>267446321
>>267446739
they ruined Kirby's hammer for me, it was amazing in the air in Brawl and now it's shit again

>>267446296

I main Wendy you cunt.

>>267445670
DK down b and bair

>>267446835
Mario, Jigglypuff and Wario probably have the best gimping in the game

>>267446728
I thought the boner for Zeon was a western fandom thing and that Nippon is all Feddie-sympathizers?

>>267446892
Agreed. I loved using his aerial hammer every so often in Brawl to get surprise KOs but it feels like shit in this game. It comes out even slower than it already did in Brawl.

>>267446920
Wendy a shit
Nah, man it's cool. As long as it's not Jr. himself

>>267447063
Ganon too actually, the trouble is hitting enough moves to get them off the stage

>>267446792
Raoh

>>267441174
I can't believe how shit Olimar is in Smash 4. It's so depressing considering how good he was in Brawl.

>>267444151
>>267444390
>huge AOE d-special that virtually nobody expects that catches people who roll
>charged neutral-b that can be used to KO people who whiff attacks
>u-special hits super hard while recovering
>side special, while slow, destroys shields
>tilts are okay
>d-smash is fast
>b-air is good.
>u-air has decent kill potential

He's not too bad if you know what you're doing.

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Oh, hey ZSS and Little Mac. Nice recovery you got there. Sure would be a shame if something were to happen to it...

>>267446792
Ghirahim?
or is that just us again

>>267447063

I'm a Wario main. Mind expanding on his gimping? I could really use the advice.

>>267446792
Most 2hus are antagonists if you think about it.

>>267447338
you need a fair amount of patience to play ganon.

He's all about punishing mistakes while being able to take a fair amount of punishing

>>267447560
>mfw i spent 2 minutes juggling a little mac with chef while he tries to recover with his piddly excuse for recovery
>he gets back on the stage
>dtilt
>short hop
>Judge
>9
>he respawns and then suicides. thats what you get for playing little mac faggot

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>>267438365
>No mention of R.O.B anywhere
Dont you guys like spamming lasers and gyros?

>>267444591
>shulk
>pacman
>samus

You're alright

>>267447653
Great air game, FAIR can wall of pain. NAIR has good knockback, DAIR is a kill move
Wario also has very fast air speed and can recovery from damn near everywhere.

I might be wrong about his potential though. But AFAICT he's one of the better gimpers.

Yoshi, too now that I think about it, but that lack of third jump makes him risky

>>267438365
I do, he's my main. Just played a bunch of online mostly with him.

>>267439365
wait

ike is still in this game?

dafuq ?

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Only played SSB64 casually so some concepts and things are kind of new to me in SSB4. Toon Link and Link are the ones I'm most comfortable with using since I kind of mained Link in 64.

>>267446113
It's a League of Legends wallpaper generator but you can upload your own images as well. Look at the /vg/ SSB thread OP for the link and the imgur for the official art.

I always forget Nair exists and end up fucking up my tilts and doing smashes or dash attacks.

Why am I so bad.

I just found out that when you eat things with Wario's default b move, it shortens the time you need to wait to use his fart move at maximum strength.

Knowing this, what kind of strategies should I use if I intend to main Wario?

>>267447876
How do I beat Rosalina as ROB? I'm sure there's a decent way to do it I'm just bad and she's giving me the most trouble

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>>267448052

It's weird. I had a harder time winning with Pikachu in the demo than I have in the actual game online.

>>267448130

He can also eat just about any projectile.

>>267448130
spam bike

chomp can catch people off guard

f-tilt is better than f-smash in most applications

>>267448201
lvl 9s have op reflexes compared to actual people

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>>267447780
>TWO MINUTES
Jesus shit anon. Longest I've juggled a Mac was 30 seconds. How much damage did he have after you were done with him?

>>267448304
WAT. I had no idea of this.
>>267448315
Ok, cool.

>>267438940
>The only evil female in Smash is this abomination

Where's Cia

>>267448381
That's true I guess. They dodge ridiculously well sometimes.

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>Run into another WFT main
>We just sit there doing the pushups thing, taunting, and synchronizing attacks
HyLianΩ, whoever you are, you're fucking awesome.

>>267447780
What % does mac need to be at to jungle easily, he falls pretty fast

>>267447560
>>267447780
Chef is so much better in this game than Brawl. It actually feels really useful.

>>267444681
>kill with side-b
No offense, but this is an incredibly unreliable strategy (coming from someone who has countered it).
Dark Pit's side-b and Pit's side-b are both EXTREMELY telegraphed. They can easily be punished by a smash attack if they're dodged and it's almost impossible not to dodge them.
Pit doesn't seem to have any reliable kill moves, especially against heavies.

>>267448397
>knocked him off at 140%
>he managed to get back on at 300%
>that judgement was the sweetest ive landed since melee

>>267448536
~35% maybe. That's when I can with Samus.

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>>267444390
>>267445519
Bowser can suck the Dong

>>267445729
I actually haven't faced a single Little Mac online yet.

>>267448721
>wrecking little mack as samus
in the LORE

What's your favorite custom move, /v/?

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best team coming through

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Rate my most played.

>>267448880
DK's Holy Sandstorm.

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>>267444305
>>267445151
A thing to note about doc and this is important is that DTILT kills at 100%.

BUT ONLY

If you hit the reverse leg sweep, that goes behind you.

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>>267439365
>Went in expecting to main the fuck out of little mac and my old mains from brawl/melee
>End up playing Ike, Pacman, and The King
It's a good feel

>>267448880
Gust cape holy shit 2gud

>>267438687
especially Five Nights at Freddies. My 9 year old just loves that game

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>>267449015
The king of kings.

because i dont play meme characters

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>tfw you manage to take your opponent to Yoshi's Story
I already won

>>267449015
how do you approach samus as dedede. i just get projectilewrecked, couldn't figure out how to approach.

>>267448886
Yoshis are so fucking annoying to fight

>>267449161
>yoshi's story
>you have a walljump

WELL I KNOW WHO'S NOT DYING EVER

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>>267438365
I already am, and have been for over 15 years, though there was a dip in that fun from 2001 to 2008.

>>267449161
y?

>>267448769

The fact that that didn't kill him is what is wrong with this game.

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>>267448939
>Luigi
You poor soul.
>Iggy
So-so Jr. Alt. Hope you don't play like a bitch.
>Captain Falcon
Bretty guud.
>WFT
I'm proud you've picked up a character you actually have to sit down and learn and be mindful of what specific moves you're using...
>Bowser
...And when all that shit's too hard, you have a good fallback.

6/10 needs more Wario.

>>267448880
Chain Judge is fucking hilarious

>>267448154
Time lasers and Nairs
You have to get above luma

>>267448880
Do mii moves count?
I really, realy like the swordfighter power thrust, I know its just a sword version of the falcon kick, but the sound and animation when you do it from the air gives me a boner
And on the ground its basically stinger, Dante fits surprisingly well with some of swordfighter's moves

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>>267449307
>>267449339
Pikachu has Quick Attack Cancel on majority of Yoshi's Story, there are only a few spots you can't cancel it on.

I am. I main Mr. Game & Watch.

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he wears a mask just to cover the raw flesh
a rather ugly brother with flows that's gorgeous

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>tfw using duck hunt's can to launch yourself towards the enemy with an aerial
>tfw using the can to make them fuck up their recovery
>tfw using it to stop little macs from dash attacking
>baiting ZSS into the can as she does that counter thing
>following up with that lethal up air
>I actually managed to launch the can off the stage, catch them recovering and spike them
>that spike

I'd say duck hunt is the most fun and most bullshit in the right hands.

>>267448154
Gyro stops luma in its tracks, Arm Rotor eats through shields and hurts luma, U-Air juggling works pretty well.

>>267448886
>Waddle dee dedede
Mah fucking Nigga

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>>267448568
>mfw i felt my ledge guarding was lackluster as falcon, even though utilt is godlike for spiking recoveries
>robin is too slow and everyone is fast
>play gayman watch
>all the ledge guarding
>fucking over projectiles
>blessed 9s everywhere
>fucking air game for days
i have found my pubstomper

>>267449340
That was just shit timing on my part. I hit the very edge of the hitbox. If it was a direct hit he would have gone into orbit.

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>>267440720
>getting a 9 against my friend's Little Mac who's trying to side B me

>>267446792
Any fucking Team Dorombo derivative like Team Rocket.

>>267449397
W-what's wrong with Luigi?
No it's alright I understand. It's so taxing on my brain when I go against anybody with projectiles, but he is my best character.

>>267439365
>>267439576
>>267443346
>>267444591

>Swords
>Fun

Choose one

Why am I so autistic /v/?

I have this mental block that prevents me from using newer characters for some reason.

Not like I'm ever going to go back to Brawl or Melee or 64. And this game is obviously going to last a while.

What's wrong with me?

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>>267449397
>that gif
l o l

>>267449941
You probably don't care for the characters enough to try them. I do them same thing, I've had and have been playing the game since midnight release on Oct. 3rd and just played Peach today, in 100 man Smash.

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>>267449857

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rate my mains /v/

>Playing Ness online
>Go to use PK Thunder 2 Recovery
>Lag Spike
>Never use Ness again

I like using Jr's B canonball

Because it reminds me what could've been K.Rool's move

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>>267438365
That's not Roy

>>267450334
White rectangle is OP as fuck.

>>267450351
>ness in charge of recovering in any smash bros game
Never using him until they give him a recovery that isn't dogshit.
Not even once.

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I bet none of you go for the visually upgraded alts

>>267450424
>>
>tfw dedede will never sit on you

>>267450515
>dark pit
>lucario

ur cancer anon

>>267450515

How'd it feel watching your boy get bodied by space whore

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>Do real good online, kicking some serious shit
>Suddenly some person starts kicking my shit in
>Go back to doing real good
>Another person bodies the fuck out of me

I fucking hate being mediocre/average at this shit. I'd rather lose to everyone and just plain suck than be this middle of the road "okay" at the game

>>267450515
Grape Dark Pit is my boy

>>267450334
10/10 because you're very close to me

>>267450612
But that's normal in a relationship.

>>267450424
Smacked him so hard he tore a hole in space-time.

>>267450515
I like how toned and visible Dark Pit's butt is.

>>267450662

Same here. I like it though. It's nice having a challenge most of the time

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>>267449824
They really screwed him in the Brawl -> Sm4sh transition, and Brawl in turn screwed him on the transition from Melee.

In particular, they fucked his torpedo, misfires have no priority (fireballs clash with it), do less damage, don't kill as well, and the torpedo makes him stick to walls which, while amusing to watch, leaves him vulnerable while he pulls his head out (especially to Villagers dropping bowling balls).

Other than that, his slipperiness works against him in this game more than for him, and he has very little combo potential anymore.

I love Luigi, but the changes in the new game and the Doc being equally useless make me much more keen on playing the WAH Machine for my plumber fix.

>>267450662
I know that feel. Whos your character?

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Rate the mains.
I play Peach and Rosalina the most.

>>267450662
That feel

Well im content with being average. Only get pissed when lag fucks me over on matches I should've won.

>>267450994
Darkness imprisoning me all that I see/10

>>267450994

>I play Peach and Rosalina the most
>No Rosalina

>Enter For Glory Lobby
>Moonrunes name
>NOPE

>>267450963
I'm aware of all these problems since i've played him religiously since 64, but what do I do man?
I feel like i'm betraying a best friend. My poor little Luigi ;_;

>>267450994
edgy/10

>>267450874
A challenge is good, but some people just flat out murder me. I don't know if it's just the match up, if I need more experience with my character or what. I want to win far more than I lose, I suppose.

>>267450973
Robin / Rosalina
I tried ZSS for a while to attempt at being a tier whore, but I just couldn't get a good feel for it

I see there's a bunch of Jrbros in this thread. Now my chance to ask, how do I gid gud at Jr? I've been trying to main him and I played with him all day today. I'm alright with him but what should be an easy win feels hard with him. Help me, I just wanna main muh prince.

>>267451135
This. Evey fucking time.

>>267450963
Doc is way better than luigi, though

and wario isn't a plumber

>>267451154
You have two choices, my friend.

1. Play literal Green Mario.

2. Create a Lumiigi.

Both would be preferable to the second banana's sorry state.

You dumb cunts told me DK's side b was a shield breaker.

Yeah bull shit. Lucina just blocked the side b and it didn't break it.

God DK is so fucking shit in this game. She was literally whiffing moves and I couldn't punish her in time with fucking TILTS.

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>>267450662

>do great online
>even the challenging people usually don't straight up destroy me
>still lose matches that should be wins because of doing something completely retarded

I really need to learn to stop taking stupid risks.

>>267440720
my nigga

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>>267450662
You're me and I feel your pain. Except for some reason I can only win online as Dedede and no one else. And I HATE PLAYING HIM. I'm trying to git gud as Ness and Fox, but my win rate dropped to 39% in the process. I switched back to Dedede, and it rose to 56%

I'm not even that good at Dedede. The people that I get matched with as Dedede I think are worse than me? Fuck I don't even know. I can only win as Dedede and it just infuriates me

>playing smash
>brother walks in
>notices I'm on an 8 win streak vs different people as dinger dee
>"wow anon you're really good"
>hush a sec I'm really pissed

>>267451397
Fuck Lucina fags

>>267451349
>Playing as that faggot older brother
>Playing as a fighter that isn't even available in For Glory matches

These aren't good choices. You're asking me to shit on Luigi at this point.

>fight a fox as ganon
>all he does is spam the blaster and run away
>end up holding the ledge the whole match
>still lose in sudden death
fuck you sakurai, I ain't got shit to approach with at all to fight this gay playstyle

>>267451397
He probably power shielded it, idiot.

>>267451397
Sakurai hates the DK series, it is known.

>>267451604
>calling mario a faggot when luigi has effeminate as hell characterization

Ok guys I'm pretty shitty at this game, I can beat lvl.9 opponents decently but that's about it. What is the quickest way to get skilled with R.O.B.

>>267451595
Fuck Lucina, fags

>>267450662
HOLY SHIT ARE YOU ME? THAT'S MY EXACT SAME FUCKING PROBLEM. WINS TO LOSSES IS LIKE 58% AND IT JUST STAYS THERE.

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Rate my most played. I only use little mac in singleplayer and smash run

>>267451397
power shield

>>267451765
pretty decent/10
>mfw KO uppercutting Bonkers

>>267451735
Quickest way to get good with any character is to go online and watch for glory recordings of your character to see what works and what's punishable.

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>just got all the character trophies on classic
>now have to get all of them for All-Stars

Probably just going do to do this shit on easy, I already did a couple on hard. Plus I keep making sure I have at least 95% in the credits, even though I'm pretty sure that won't do anything.

How's everyone's challenges going? I'm at 76/105.

>>267451214
p-pls respond

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Oh boy a mains thread

>>267451135

Can you look at your own replays? How are people uploading webms.

>>267444184
the captain is still great

>>267451951
filming their ds

>>267438365

But I am OP, he's my main.

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Is it just me or are matchups insanely important this time around? It seems in Brawl I could just play marth and do well VS anyone (even wolf / MK I had a decent shot at) but now...just fuck.

I almost hate to be a tier whore but I may have to see who has the best "odds" against all match ups and learn that character, because shit is getting ridiculous with some of these fights.

>>267451850
Man fuck those guys.
Whenever they, polar bears, bulborbs, and reapers show up I just dump all of my powers and hope that does it

>>267444184
>implying this isn't the second best incarnation of C.Falcon
>implying this isn't the best version of Marry-Oh

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>>267451397
git gud

>>267450515

>Purple Dark Pit

>Not Pitoo dressed up like Pit

>>267451214
I'm by no means an expert at Bowser Jr., but some things I've noticed are to always keep your bombs out, and take advantage of your up special. Most people forget the clown car explodes

>>267452127

There's no way Falcon is better than in 64 and Melee.

>>267451214

Always have a robot out for one. Always. YOU control the space.

You also have terrible start up and recovery frames on pretty much everything so you're going to have to predict a LOT and know what is safe.

>>267452084
Polar Bears are easy compared to the other "miniboss" tier enemies.
Fuck Clubberskulls though. Never ever ever bothering with those assholes again.

>>267451908
I hate how slow Falco is now.

>>267452379
melee? hell no.

of course this Cap isn't better than melee cap

>>267452484

hands off my bread

>>267452059
Eh not really. I'm pretty consistent with all my characters.

>>267452059
>play as mac most of the time
>finally fight a decent dude with pikachu
>hes 3 wins I'm 1
>I eh thats enough mac its time to use Ludwig my other main
>mop the floor with him 5-0

I honestly believe that the decent players online prepair and train against top tier and mac players and when they fight something else theyre thrown off