/v/ Why aren't you playing the most fun character in the game
But that down tilt
All games are made for children anon
Because I simply can't get good at the Prince.
I have to just play ROB, Ganondorf, and Link instead.
I have a feeling I'm going to be better at Peach from Space rather than Bowser Jr., unfortunately.
Purin's the nicest to play as.
>not getting a new 3DS and bairing Koopaling players with the best Jigglypuff voice
>fighting for your friends
>not playing Edge Pit and being a servant to no other but your self
>Not playing the character that takes the most skill
>start match by ducking into clown-car-blimp, looking snug in my fort
>Opponent curiously approaches
>Release the detonating koopa toy
>Backs out and spaz dodges an opening for
>Hop hop hop
>Back into fort
>tfw got into the bad habit of using DDD up b like that because it was catching bads
I think that might have been me, in fact if you cycled through quite a number of characters and your DK was the only one that was any good.
It's fucking terrifying. I hope you never have to see it.
I had one that kept me locked down 90% of the time with arcfire and would then come and combo me into the air and do some crazy powerful sword move that sent me red sparking across the stage.
i am playing all of the fun characters in the game, OP
>implying any of the characters take skill.
>I only play games made for mature people such as myself.
>play this nigga
>use his up taunt just before the timer ends
>now it's Shulk- TIME
Ganondorf is 100x more fun than he should be given how shitty he is
>all those low % kills
>that new Warlock Punch armor
>gerudo dragon in dtilt errey day
>mid air wizards foot has monstrous knock back
>there are people on /v/ RIGHT NOW that actually think any of the Koopalings are better designed characters than Bowser Jr.
i'm even a huge nostalgiafag and geeked out when i saw the alt costumes but can we be real for a minute here? bowser jr. is absolutely fine when he doesn't speak. so, basically, every time he's even been in a game other than Sunshine.
playing DK online always ends with me getting juggled off stage for years before eventually dying while completely unable to get a hit in.
He's such a hard character to competently play.
Shut your whore mouth. It's hard to do rub and pat.
How can I recover from my enemy's hold? I am mashing all the buttons because I have literally no idea how the fuck can I get off from being grabbed by the enemy while they can get off from me so easily that it took them less than a second before I can do damage to them.
because his character design is retarded
look at my simply better choice for a main, an OP dash attack and the best alt costume in the game
oh, you're right. look at bowser and bowser jr. here, up to no good as usual.
This, all the koopalings just look retarded to me, except Roy, since his glasses hide his retardation, and Morton, because he actually is meant to be a big lovable retard.
how do you git gud at the Doc?
What are some basics?
How the fuck are they NOT better designed.
They're simple and distinct.
Bowser Jr. is LITERALLY Bowser but in Jr. form and only exists so they could keep using the Baby Bowser design.
I know what you mean. The split second delay is so frustrating when playing a slower character that relies on reads.
But that wont stop me. I still fucking love playing as him.
That's why I had to drop him. I was so fucking hype for DK in this game and he's just sooooooooooooooo..........slooooooooooooooooooooow..........on everything. The start up frames kill him and he just gets juggled to shit before he can do anything at all.
1. Pill to bring them into your range
2. Juggle with throws and aerials
3. Tilts to knock them the fuck away if they're up in your face
4. Take them by surprise with the very tip of your slide
5. Down B is great for breaking up contact and for kickstarting an aerial combo
6. Cape only if you're 90% sure you can land it/make it back, otherwise you're setting yourself up for disaster
7. Take them by surprise with a well timed Up B, it can kill easily over 100% on most characters
>DK is a slower, lighter bowser with fewer armor frames and less kill moves
Larry has a nice design.
Lemmy is okay but but looks literally mentally impaired and the hair is goofy.
Iggy's hair, eyes, and teeth look awful.
Roy's glasses are the stupidest thing I've ever laid eyes upon and people only like him because le ironic pink colors :^)
Morton is not too bad but he barely even looks like a koopa.
Ludwig is pretty decent I suppose.
And Wendy just looks like absolute shit, with those dumbass lips and bitch-eyes.
Bowser Jr. looks like Bowser's son - what he's supposed to be. And he is way more distinct personality-wise than any of the Koopalings, I personally find it adorable that he's this little punk and even wears the little bandana with scary teeth drawn on it to (I'm assuming) pull over his mouth and seem intimidating.
Bowser Jr. is cool.
If you just did a color profile it'd look remarkably similar.
less kill moves. lol no. back air to back air kills at like 60%. Plus he punishes stupid over rolling dicks with up down tilts and bdown. up air kills at like 90% and the dong punch is a good surprise/nerve wracking pressure move. Just powering it up spooks people and makes them screw up. Plus it murders ledge hangers if they try to roll on stage or short hop aerial on.
Depends on the character, really. Anyone with a horizontal recovery or a damageless recovery is easy prey if you can set it up right. I rush out to the edge if I'm at a high percent already and don't want to risk getting smashed around the middle of the stage.
don't forget up+b kills and fast falling neutral aerials all day
But I am
>once damaged does more damage than little mac
Bowser's butt is a shieldbreaker.
And their recoveries are nearly identical kinda a moot point.
All DK really has on him are meteor smashes which come out so slow it's a non-issue.
Don't forget his oh so satisfying fair and dair.
So since this game is obnoxiously centered around rolling and shielding and it's impossible to kill people until like 150% who is a character that can punish rolling/shield bitches and has good edge-guarding game so I can gimp them to death.
I am maining Rosalina
Also she shits on lil Mac and You run into lil Mac players all the damn time.
>ganon vs zss
>zss down throws me and tries to follow up with up b
>i manage to double jump out of its range
>wizard's foot right into her face for a KO
Anyone can shit on Little Mac, it's just that Rosalina has an easier time doing it.
I mean, I play Ludwig and I shat all over a Little Mac earlier today. Two stocked him three times without going over 20% because most Little Mac's never learn the fundamentals of fighting. They're just like 'GOSH I CAN RUN AT ENEMIES AND SMASH ATTACK AND WIN HOLY SHIT' and then come up against someone who knows better and loses.
I pretty much predicted that Little Mac would be neutralized once we learned his shit, it's just not widespread yet. In due time.
I would've much rather liked it if the vehicle fighter in this game was Eggman instead.
>spiking foes with Kirby's D-air
>comboing D-air into Up tilt
>last hit after the rapid jab is a projectile
>hammer can be charged for more damage compared to the last 2 games
>guranteed wins against Little Macs
I don't know what you faggots are doing by not playing as Kirby, but I can tell you that he feels so fucking good this time around.
The Japanese don't like antagonists. They only like protagonists. It's very rare when antagonists get popularity.
Only reason Bowser Jr. got in was because Miyamoto probably demanded it.
Some people put him on low tiers or even call the hammer useless, can you believe it?
like, he's not highest for sure, but he sure as hell isn't on the lowest tier, and landing that hammer feels so good
Agreed. I loved using his aerial hammer every so often in Brawl to get surprise KOs but it feels like shit in this game. It comes out even slower than it already did in Brawl.
>huge AOE d-special that virtually nobody expects that catches people who roll
>charged neutral-b that can be used to KO people who whiff attacks
>u-special hits super hard while recovering
>side special, while slow, destroys shields
>tilts are okay
>d-smash is fast
>b-air is good.
>u-air has decent kill potential
He's not too bad if you know what you're doing.
Oh, hey ZSS and Little Mac. Nice recovery you got there. Sure would be a shame if something were to happen to it...
>mfw i spent 2 minutes juggling a little mac with chef while he tries to recover with his piddly excuse for recovery
>he gets back on the stage
he respawns and then suicides. thats what you get for playing little mac faggot
>No mention of R.O.B anywhere
Dont you guys like spamming lasers and gyros?
Great air game, FAIR can wall of pain. NAIR has good knockback, DAIR is a kill move
Wario also has very fast air speed and can recovery from damn near everywhere.
I might be wrong about his potential though. But AFAICT he's one of the better gimpers.
Yoshi, too now that I think about it, but that lack of third jump makes him risky
Only played SSB64 casually so some concepts and things are kind of new to me in SSB4. Toon Link and Link are the ones I'm most comfortable with using since I kind of mained Link in 64.
It's a League of Legends wallpaper generator but you can upload your own images as well. Look at the /vg/ SSB thread OP for the link and the imgur for the official art.
I just found out that when you eat things with Wario's default b move, it shortens the time you need to wait to use his fart move at maximum strength.
Knowing this, what kind of strategies should I use if I intend to main Wario?
Jesus shit anon. Longest I've juggled a Mac was 30 seconds. How much damage did he have after you were done with him?
>Run into another WFT main
>We just sit there doing the pushups thing, taunting, and synchronizing attacks
HyLianΩ, whoever you are, you're fucking awesome.
>kill with side-b
No offense, but this is an incredibly unreliable strategy (coming from someone who has countered it).
Dark Pit's side-b and Pit's side-b are both EXTREMELY telegraphed. They can easily be punished by a smash attack if they're dodged and it's almost impossible not to dodge them.
Pit doesn't seem to have any reliable kill moves, especially against heavies.
Bowser can suck the Dong
A thing to note about doc and this is important is that DTILT kills at 100%.
If you hit the reverse leg sweep, that goes behind you.
>Went in expecting to main the fuck out of little mac and my old mains from brawl/melee
>End up playing Ike, Pacman, and The King
It's a good feel
>tfw you manage to take your opponent to Yoshi's Story
I already won
I already am, and have been for over 15 years, though there was a dip in that fun from 2001 to 2008.
You poor soul.
So-so Jr. Alt. Hope you don't play like a bitch.
I'm proud you've picked up a character you actually have to sit down and learn and be mindful of what specific moves you're using...
...And when all that shit's too hard, you have a good fallback.
6/10 needs more Wario.
Do mii moves count?
I really, realy like the swordfighter power thrust, I know its just a sword version of the falcon kick, but the sound and animation when you do it from the air gives me a boner
And on the ground its basically stinger, Dante fits surprisingly well with some of swordfighter's moves
Pikachu has Quick Attack Cancel on majority of Yoshi's Story, there are only a few spots you can't cancel it on.
he wears a mask just to cover the raw flesh
a rather ugly brother with flows that's gorgeous
>tfw using duck hunt's can to launch yourself towards the enemy with an aerial
>tfw using the can to make them fuck up their recovery
>tfw using it to stop little macs from dash attacking
>baiting ZSS into the can as she does that counter thing
>following up with that lethal up air
>I actually managed to launch the can off the stage, catch them recovering and spike them
I'd say duck hunt is the most fun and most bullshit in the right hands.
>mfw i felt my ledge guarding was lackluster as falcon, even though utilt is godlike for spiking recoveries
>robin is too slow and everyone is fast
>play gayman watch
>all the ledge guarding
>fucking over projectiles
>blessed 9s everywhere
>fucking air game for days
i have found my pubstomper
>getting a 9 against my friend's Little Mac who's trying to side B me
Why am I so autistic /v/?
I have this mental block that prevents me from using newer characters for some reason.
Not like I'm ever going to go back to Brawl or Melee or 64. And this game is obviously going to last a while.
What's wrong with me?
You probably don't care for the characters enough to try them. I do them same thing, I've had and have been playing the game since midnight release on Oct. 3rd and just played Peach today, in 100 man Smash.
That's not Roy
I bet none of you go for the visually upgraded alts
>Do real good online, kicking some serious shit
>Suddenly some person starts kicking my shit in
>Go back to doing real good
>Another person bodies the fuck out of me
I fucking hate being mediocre/average at this shit. I'd rather lose to everyone and just plain suck than be this middle of the road "okay" at the game
They really screwed him in the Brawl -> Sm4sh transition, and Brawl in turn screwed him on the transition from Melee.
In particular, they fucked his torpedo, misfires have no priority (fireballs clash with it), do less damage, don't kill as well, and the torpedo makes him stick to walls which, while amusing to watch, leaves him vulnerable while he pulls his head out (especially to Villagers dropping bowling balls).
Other than that, his slipperiness works against him in this game more than for him, and he has very little combo potential anymore.
I love Luigi, but the changes in the new game and the Doc being equally useless make me much more keen on playing the WAH Machine for my plumber fix.
Rate the mains.
I play Peach and Rosalina the most.
A challenge is good, but some people just flat out murder me. I don't know if it's just the match up, if I need more experience with my character or what. I want to win far more than I lose, I suppose.
Robin / Rosalina
I tried ZSS for a while to attempt at being a tier whore, but I just couldn't get a good feel for it
I see there's a bunch of Jrbros in this thread. Now my chance to ask, how do I gid gud at Jr? I've been trying to main him and I played with him all day today. I'm alright with him but what should be an easy win feels hard with him. Help me, I just wanna main muh prince.
You dumb cunts told me DK's side b was a shield breaker.
Yeah bull shit. Lucina just blocked the side b and it didn't break it.
God DK is so fucking shit in this game. She was literally whiffing moves and I couldn't punish her in time with fucking TILTS.
>do great online
>even the challenging people usually don't straight up destroy me
>still lose matches that should be wins because of doing something completely retarded
I really need to learn to stop taking stupid risks.
You're me and I feel your pain. Except for some reason I can only win online as Dedede and no one else. And I HATE PLAYING HIM. I'm trying to git gud as Ness and Fox, but my win rate dropped to 39% in the process. I switched back to Dedede, and it rose to 56%
I'm not even that good at Dedede. The people that I get matched with as Dedede I think are worse than me? Fuck I don't even know. I can only win as Dedede and it just infuriates me
>brother walks in
>notices I'm on an 8 win streak vs different people as dinger dee
>"wow anon you're really good"
>hush a sec I'm really pissed
>Playing as that faggot older brother
>Playing as a fighter that isn't even available in For Glory matches
These aren't good choices. You're asking me to shit on Luigi at this point.
>fight a fox as ganon
>all he does is spam the blaster and run away
>end up holding the ledge the whole match
>still lose in sudden death
fuck you sakurai, I ain't got shit to approach with at all to fight this gay playstyle
Rate my most played.
I only use little mac in singleplayer and smash run
>just got all the character trophies on classic
>now have to get all of them for All-Stars
Probably just going do to do this shit on easy, I already did a couple on hard. Plus I keep making sure I have at least 95% in the credits, even though I'm pretty sure that won't do anything.
How's everyone's challenges going? I'm at 76/105.
Is it just me or are matchups insanely important this time around? It seems in Brawl I could just play marth and do well VS anyone (even wolf / MK I had a decent shot at) but now...just fuck.
I almost hate to be a tier whore but I may have to see who has the best "odds" against all match ups and learn that character, because shit is getting ridiculous with some of these fights.
I'm by no means an expert at Bowser Jr., but some things I've noticed are to always keep your bombs out, and take advantage of your up special. Most people forget the clown car explodes
Always have a robot out for one. Always. YOU control the space.
You also have terrible start up and recovery frames on pretty much everything so you're going to have to predict a LOT and know what is safe.
>play as mac most of the time
>finally fight a decent dude with pikachu
>hes 3 wins I'm 1
>I eh thats enough mac its time to use Ludwig my other main
>mop the floor with him 5-0
I honestly believe that the decent players online prepair and train against top tier and mac players and when they fight something else theyre thrown off