>Play Skyrim a fuck ton >Normally run at around 50-60 FPS

What optimizer mods ?

>>266208502
ENBoost and Optimizer Textures

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>I use third-party mods
>developers fault when my mileage may vary

>>266208621
When two mods make a game run over 200% better, I'm going to be sceptical of a dev's work.

>>266208347
>>266208687
I'm skeptical. Prove you're getting 400+fps outside. Also, optimizer textures wouldn't affect FPS at all. At best it would help with stuttering.

>>266208798
How do I take a screenshot of my FPS counter? Print Screen wont pick up skyrim at all and steam only takes a screenshot of skyrim without overlays.

>>266208909
Depends entirely on what you use to view fps.

>>266208939
ENB mod

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>Playing darksiders 2 on laptop some months ago
>Running like shit
>Forget about it for a while.
>stumble across stutter fixes and some optimization tweaks yesterday
>Give it a second go
>Runs like fucking butter
>mfw

Now I can finally clear my brothers name
HES INNOCENT

>mod loader literally says base game parts are poorly made/not installed correctly
>surprised by this

>>266208909
Download fraps
Enable fps counter
Take screenshot with fraps
Post it

>>266208990
Look in enblocal/enbseries.ini and see what the keycode is.

>>266208347
nignog optimizer textures actually shittify your images but you wont see it if you dont stare at it

its like turning pngs to jpgs 100%

this however improves video card performance as it uses lesser memory
i think you should use 2gb video memory in skyrim though

>>266209121
It really depends on how well a modder compresses their textures. At times it can cut filesizes (and vram usage) in 4, with negligible quality differences.

>>266209115
That's the problem. I have no way of taking a pic of the FPS counter overlay unless I run it in windowed mode. I doubt you guys would be ok with my "Proof" if I was running it in a window.

>>266209109
Damn. I don't want to download shit.

I'll do it. Keep thread alive.

>>266209230
>I don't want to download shit.
Even pirating it should take 5 seconds at most.

>>266209230
Skyrim and all of Beth's gamebryo games are CPU bottlenecked. With an i7/780 combo i get the same fps whether windowed @ 720p of full screen at 1440p, with 8xAA.

>>266209275
Already done. Loading it up.

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I want some screens with fps counter...

Damn it OP you are making me want to reinstall Skyrim

>>266209309
You think that's bad?
In the new RoTT it doesn't matter whether I put it on the lowest or the highest settings, it still runs at a measly 20 fps.

>>266209326
While you're waiting, tell us your specs as well.
For the love of god don't post windows' computer properties

>>266209402
In NV , which uses a slightly older version of skyrim's engine, I can't manage a solid 60fps in some areas UNMODDED because the game only uses one of my CPU cores properly. i7 @ 3.6 and one core is maxed at all times, others are practically idle.

>>266209371
>every single Skyrim mod thread I want to re-install
>remember how dogshit awful 99% of the game is
Just aint worth it

>>266209518
Arnt there any like....gameplay mods that are worth checking out?

>>266209518
It's better to install an alternate start mod and a combat overhaul mod, and just explore the game, ignoring the main story.

>>266209586
There are lots that try and change it, but they just cant make up for the shitty gameplay

>>266209692
What exactly do you think is so "shitty" about it?

>>266209809
Literally everything

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>Download dx9 dll that's apparently from Oblivion off of Nexus
>mfw nearly doubled my FPS

'course it's probably due to it using an older version of DX9 which is lacking a lot of crap that Skyrim uses to make it look pretty but meh.

>>266209932
So in other words you have no idea what you are talking about and just spout biased bullshit, right?

>>266209932
Sounds like you haven't used any gameplay mods. Go to /tesg/ and read their modding guide. They're shit, but they know how to get the most out of the game.

>>266210043
No thats what your doing troll

>>266210000
That and it probably doesn't support newer GPUs.

>>266209326
So?
Where's the screenies?

>OP can't into fraps

>>266210184
Actually runs perfectly fine on my GTX760.

Buttery smooth 120+fps with everything maxed out, plus the Better Trees/Grass mod.

>>266210161
You say the game is horrible but cant even say what makes it so bad for example. Looks like you rather you are the troll.

>>266209809
>melee
>no weight to blows, stagger is random, the fucking powerattack animations that are just bad even compared to similar combat systems
>backpedaling while swinging at 120 SPH as long as you have fatigue
>lack of counters
>killcam to try to somehow make it feel varied

>casting
>literally backpedal and cast

>stealth archery
>stealth archery

>>266210341
I mean that's why you get a performance boost with a new d3d9. It doesn't usually detect your GPU and adjusts itself accordingly.

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OP's gonna deliver soon isnt he...before this devolves into anti skyrim thread

>>266209420
i5 3570k
AMD 7970


I just gave up and ran it in a window. According to:
>>266209309
That doesn't matter, so there you go

Fuck. Uploads are taking a fuck long amount of time.

Uploaded to imgur: http://i.imgur.com/Bg5MsX3.jpg

>>266210597
>In the pause menu
Fuck off, you idiot.

>>266210413
>no weight to blows
Install TK Hitstop. I helps a bit with this if your pc doesnt have script lag.

Skyrim does not have very well polished combat, because it's not focused just on combat as much as many other games. However, compared in Skyrim you actually can make the combat really realistic, instead of being just another OP demi-god who kills everything.

>>casting
>literally backpedal and cast

>stealth archery
>stealth archery
Don't know what you are trying to say here

>>266210672
http://i.imgur.com/z8l73NE.jpg

Uploads keep failing

>>266211068
Show me unpaused, and outside.

>>266210809
>stealth archer
>not OP demi-god who kills everything

>>266211204
If you play on babby mode perhaps. Just another proof that you know jack shit about modding the game.

>>266210809
stealth archer is bs. honestly nothing easier

>>266211290
This is /v/, people complain whether or not they've even played the game, let alone modded it.

>>266211126
http://i.imgur.com/J6iG9B7.jpg

>>266211290
Think I played on hard, legendary seemed to just turn everything into healthsponges so you had to backpedal and swing/shoot/cast for that much longer. It's not terrible in the context of an rpg but it's not an action game.

>>266211413
nice 400 fps bro

>>266211413
>400 fps outside
That's 100, and you're in a city. Got outside outside and you'll probably be around 80.

>>266211328
It totally depends on your settings. You can increase enemy sight for example, and make sneaking harder. You also can decrease the strength of arrows, etc.

And if you really wanted to play an OP character, you would go full wizard anyway. In late game a true wizard can kill entire armies with one spell cast.

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wow op your screencaps look nothing like your original pic

>>266211506
Thats why people said, you should install gameplay mods. There are mods for almost everything.

I never play on vanilla difficulty, so I cant really say how OP stealth archery is there, but if you feel too OP, then just nerf yourself with mods.

>>266211686
It's not like the original pic was anything special. It was just taken at sunset and in fullscreen mode.

>>266211838
yeah but even that's not close to the quality in his screencaps

>>266211956
What looks like vanilla textures and a lack of AA in both, at most it was one weather mod, which typically have next to no performance impact.

>>266211838
OP here

I also took out that clock mod, so that might push people to disbelieve that's mine.

The truth is, that screen shot is from an ENB config that I'm still looking for. That screenshot is from a few days ago. I've since re-done my skyrim.

>>266211734
And I don't really like having to balance my own game, finding strong builds in an existing balance is most of the fun of the rpg system to me.

>>266212073
That looks absolute dogshit for an ENB. the only thing ENB about it is that it has a noise filter. With a 7970 you can get something better. Just type enb into the nexus and you'll find dozens that are better.
>>266212105
So in other words, you can't be bothered to mod. Great. Don't play it then.

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>tfw 25 FPS on consoles

>>266212105
>I don't really like having to balance my own game
Then I think TES is not really for you. These games were basically made to be modded.

>finding strong builds in an existing balance is most of the fun of the rpg system to me
I dont see how this can be fun, since there is nothing challenging about it. However, sounds like you are just a powergamer and not a real role player. The funny thing is, that you complain about things, which you actually seem to like in the end. You basically want games to be shitty and unrealistic, and then complain about them being unbalanced and unrelistic in the end.

>>266212330
>Bethesda game on a console
You couldn't be more retarded.

>>266212481
I don't play Bethesda games but my roommate does. He has over 1000 hours in Skyrim on PS3.

>>266208347
Don't lie. Playing above 60 makes the physics flip out and the game speed up.

>>266212618
Then tell him he's retarded for buying the worst version between two pieces of shit which are far behind the PC version, which is still shit.

>>266210597
>>266211068
>>266211413
I get that you're new, but why the shitflinging fuck are you linking to an external site for image hosting when you're on an image board?

>>266212481
Oblivion was fun on my PS3. Not as good as Dragons Dogma or whatever, but still pretty cool.

>>266212759
In that case, kill yourself.

>>266212752
>Fuck. Uploads are taking a fuck long amount of time.
>Uploads keep failing

Uploads are fucked for me at the moment.

>>266212724
>do I fit in yet guise?

It is well known by now that Bethesda can't do anything right

>>266212829
Oh.

I really should go polish up on my reading comprehension.

>>266212832
Apart from making the most comfy and biggest open world RPGs, yes

>>266210809
>because it's not focused just on combat as much as many other games
But it is when compared to better TES games. That is, Morrowind.
Every other fucking question Skyrim has you trod through a ruin with monsters in it, the least they could've done is made that fun. Morrowind has shit combat but at least many of the quests involve politics and characters in some way, instead of just sending you to collect x in cave y.

Pc players are the hipsters of the gaming world.

>>266212941
You mean "letting modders create the most comfy and biggest open world RPGs"

>>266212832

Apart from making money

>>266213014

*Impotent vapid nerds

>walking around near Falkreath
>find a hut surrounded by necromancers
>there's an old woman talking about necromancy and giving some lore exposition inside
>voice acting is pretty bad but still better than most of the voices in the game
>she's actually talking about interesting things
And that's when I realized she must have been added through some mod. Most likely Undeath. The vanilla game wouldn't have content this decent.

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>>266210000
>DX9 games look bad

>>266213014
>>266213258
Oh look
It's the "I'm furious that PC gaming exists" time on /v/ again

>>266213007
>Morrowind
When you look at how horrible Morrowind combat looks like, it is no wonder that tried to get away from it as far as possible.

>Every other fucking question Skyrim has you trod through a ruin with monsters in it
Complete bullshit. There are enough of quests just about talking to NPCs or whatever. Of course, the majority will be about dungeon raids in the end, but you have still all kinds of quests. You can work for the thieves guild and collect money from people in town by bullying them, or you can try to solve a case of a father who burned his own daughter, by searching and talking to his daughter in ghost form, or you also can just carry some stuff for some random dude up on High Hrothgar, so that the old guys up there have something to eat.

There are all kinds of quests, you just never really played the game.

>>266213314
No one said that and that's not a game.

>>266213132
No, modders just make them even better.

>>266212654
this

enable frame limiting in the enboost ini or you'll be sorry

>>266209230
Msi afterburner is the real deal and free, dont use fraps

Though it requires a bit of knowledge to get into msi

>>266213349
I don't mind PC gaming. You are having fun and I am happy because of that.
But jerking off your toy that does the same thing my toy does makes you seem like you are compensating for something

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>>266213314
>meanwhile DX11 only game requiring 4GB VRAM recommended probably with a budget of 50 million

>>266213132
The thing is, a ton of other companies could probably do it far better than Bethesda, it just that they have no competition.
Some of the design choices and bug issues in the Elder Scrolls series are so baffling you'd think it was done by an amateur studio, Bethesda just gets off easy because nobody else is even trying to do the same things as them.

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>>266213410
>not a game.
That's besides the point. Bethesda are incompetent and lazy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FlRClpaqEo

>>266208347

It seems to be dependent on your rig and ENB settings. My ENB preset comes with ENBoost, since it's just 5-10 lines of config, and I still dip below 25fps on a semi-regular basis. This is with about 80 other mods, including HD textures for just about everything though.

>>266213314
I never played Skyrim but I might pick it up. Is this a mod?

>>266213392
Negro, I said "every other quest", which literally means that one in two is a dungeon crawl. That's obviously not what I meant, the ratio is way more biased towards dungeon crawling than actual interesting things, but you can hardly complain I was being unfair with that statement.
I'm literally playing the game right now. Most quests are absolute shit, and seem to assume that you can have fun fighting monsters in this game. You can't.

>When you look at how horrible Morrowind combat looks like, it is no wonder that tried to get away from it as far as possible.
The combat is Morrowind is pretty much the same as the one in Skyrim. The only tactic is walking up to an enemy, walking backwards so they hit the air, hitting them in the face and repeating. The only difference is that you can miss in Morrowind, so fights against higher level opponents are more often than not impossible. I don't give a shit about what it looks like, the mechanics are the fucking same.

>>266213620
>Last time someone tried we got the ultra shitty Two Worlds

Maybe it's better this way.

>>266209371
>tfw just finished installing everything after 6 hours of modding and crashing

>>266213771
Any picture of a skyrim that looks good is a mod.

>>266213771
it's not Skyrim

>>266213771
No it's a new walking simulator called The Vanishing of Ethan Carter from the guys that made Painkiller and Bulletstorm.
It's more of an interactive story than actual game though, it has some puzzles but the story and atmosphere are the meat of the experience.

>>266213828
why are you crashing? you're not using nmm are you?

>>266213950
Like The Gone Home game?

>>266213953
No of course not, but I'm not crashing anymore, guess I worded it poorly. Had to reinstall everything a couple of times though, decided to get Wrye to assist me since I normally do it all manually.

>Things that never happened

>>266214034
mod organizer has loot integrated now and will automatically detect when things are in the wrong order which is convenient as fuck

>>266214024
there's a game made of Gone Home now?

Other Gamebryo engine games had serious issues when you got above 60FPS when it came to physics.
Lock you FPS in your enb settings you fucking nerd

>>266214147
That loot is outdated as fuck though. Just use the latest standalone version

>>266214024
Fuck no. It's far far better than Gone Home and Dear Ester, there's actual effort put into it.
From the very beginning the game hints at what's going on but might not get it until the very end, and even if you did you'll never catch all of the subtext of the stories the first time around.

>>266213591
I fucking wish I could go beyond "medium" textures, because then I bet the game would look pretty fucking sweet

>all these idiots buying i7's for gaming
lel

>>266214147
Yeah I know, saved me a lot of time, impressive how far the modding community has come.

On a sidenote, anyone know where they've hidden Children of the Sky? LL is no longer supporting it, something about being moral or something.

>>266213665
top kek anon. Of all the things to hate in the TES series you pick one of the most inconsequential bugs in the entire game

>>266214270
doesn't it pull from the loot repo every time you run it?

>>266213774
>more biased towards dungeon crawling than actual interesting things
If you find dungeon crawling uninteresting, then why do you even play RPGs?! Dungeon crawling is the most classic form of RPG quests, and lso still the most fun. There is nothing better than exploring dungeons.

>The combat is Morrowind is pretty much the same as the one in Skyrim
It's not the same at all. The animations in Morrowind look just horrible by todays standarts.

>The only tactic is walking up to an enemy, walking backwards so they hit the air, hitting them in the face and repeating
In Skyrim you can have all kinds of combat tactics, especially if you know how to mod the game. You can sneak kill enemies, you can shoot them a bow from a far, or of course just go full melee. And when I go melee, walking backwards doesnt bring much.Much more important is to be able to block, bash and attack in the right moments.

>I don't give a shit about what it looks like
Well, many people do. Otherwise mods like removing the dice roll miss combat for Morrowind wouldnt be so successful.

>>266213950
It's a first person point and click.

>>266214517
Little things like that add up. And then there's the game braking bugs that completely ruined my experience.

>>266214437
>tfw bought a laptop for gaming

>optimizer 1
>decreases game render resolution when you get into anything intensive such as combat
>optimizer 2
>decreases texture quality when you get into shit

>literally just turns down the games setting during moment where you won't really notice unless if you're recording fights and then looking at individual frames during combat later.


WOOOOW such an amazing optimization, why don't you remove all grafics mods, use low res textres and run the game at 800x600 aas well?

>Implying this shit game isn't boring even with mods.

>>266208798
>textures dont affect fps
literaly what.

>>266214728
Do you even know what you are talking about

>>266214575
>In Skyrim you can have all kinds of combat tactics, es..
are you talking about unmodded skyrim? In that case you're full of shit. Stagger is inconsistent and not reliable enough. More often than not you'll end up trading blows and given skyrim's "difficulty" you'll get the short end of that trade.

>tactics
Jumping on a rock to fuck with the AI-pathing isn't exactly tactics.

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>>266214575
>Dungeon crawling is the most classic form of RPG quests, and lso still the most fun
That's only true when the dungeon you're crawling is interesting, or the combat system is good. I think dungeons in Pathfinder are fun simply because the combat system allows for some creativity. I don't expect computer games to be that open ended, but they have to be at least more interesting than Skyrim's combat for them to stand on their own.
>There is nothing better than exploring dungeons
>It's not the same at all. The animations in Morrowind look just horrible by todays standarts.
>the rest of this post
Nevermind, I guess I'm just an idiot for responding to bait. Holy shit, you got me. I yield.

>>266214640
There's not that much pointing and clicking, the puzzles are better than Bioshock's "wait a minute that card" but nothing exceptional.
There is also only one enemy in the entire game, and he's confined to one area, so really it's mostly a walking simulator with a nice story.

>tfw I can run JC2 at a constant 60FPS with everything excluding SSAA
>literally a world double the size of Skryim and looks 3 times better
>Skyrim constantly stutters and hovers around 45-55

what are you doing Beth

>>266215138
JC2 water and air look pretty good, but otherwise the world is just empty buildings and low textures

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45 FPS at all times with this setup, would be 60 constantly if I uninstalled all those 4k Parallax Mods I added.

Also, for the record, NEVER go above 60 in Skyrim, the Havok Physics go ape shit above 60.

>>266215584
>willingly playing your game below 60FPS

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>>266215584

>>266208347
is this true, i'm gonna try this.

>>266215680
>playing
>Skyrim

Its a virtual photography simulator

Speaking of which, when is ENB going to be fixed for nvidia?

>>266215920
>Using ENB

>>266208347
how do you use skyrim mods?

>>266216051
You install them

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>>266215680
Actually, the difference between 40 and 60 isn't that bad on my end, now 30 to 60 THAT is a leap. I try my hardest to optimize though, inside buildings I get 60, outside it depends, in Riverwood for example I get 45, outside Whiterun on the "Tundra", I saw that in quotations because well, you can kinda tell it isn't a Tundra anymore, I get 55-60.
>>266215920
It isn't broken, the GEFORCE Center is broken, don't update it or revert if you did, problem solved.
>>266215984
Nothing wrong with ENBs, my shots have all been taken with a slightly modified Rudy ENB.

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>>266215752
>>266216074
Not gonna lie, that looks pretty good, simple and good.

>>266215984
Why would you not? Based boris has ensured optimization and overall customization free of charge.

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>>266216190
Thanks 50, when is the sequel to one of the best games of last gen coming out? Ever?

>>266216190
50 cent with buster sword? the fuck nigga, thats pretty cool.

>want to play skyrim for waifus
>cba to waste 5 hours installing all those mods to make the game not shit just for a quick fap
why

>>266214869
>you talking about unmodded skyrim?
I am talking about both.

>Jumping on a rock to fuck with the AI-pathing isn't exactly tactics
No, but chosing the right preparation and picking the right fights, picking right the right magic spell, picking the right weapon, etc, is tactics. Not to mention how tactics you can have when you mod the game and play with a party.

>That's only true when the dungeon you're crawling is interesting
But the dungeons in Skyrim are interesting. And combat is also good.
I am sorry you so dumb to play games you actually dont like, but many other still like the game.

>>266214906
>>266216593

>>266208687
Devs have a limited amount of time. Corners will have to be cut somewhere.

The optimizer textures was released almost a year after the game was released, and the ENBoost was released two years after release. And they were both updated very recently.

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>>266216593
>this browses my /v/

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>>266216593
Hey, watch this.

can i pirate the add ons if i have a purchased copy?

>>266211068
>1,000 fps

>>266216593
Look, I don't hate Skyrim. I just see all these flaws that stop it from being a good game. I have absolutely no idea how you and the other casuals don't see how shitty the actual gameplay is. There's no character progression, the combat is shit, no preperation is necessary on any difficulty, the world would be terribly empty if I weren't a lorefag, and so on and so on.
I have no idea how anybody that isn't a lorefag could every stand playing this game.

>>266208347
Skyrim was already optimised to fuck, Damn, I even ran it on a toaster

>>266213591
>35 gig

>>266216990
Yes. The DLC installs just like any other mod would.

Okay /v/. I never touched Morrowind, I only played Skyrim. Why Morrowind is superior? Tell me.

>>266217212
nostalgia goggles

>>266217212
It really isn't, some places and quests are pretty cool but everything else feels outdated as fuck.

>>266217045
>There's no character progression
Of course there is. What do you think are the perks for? Why is one able to leve up and gain MP/HP/Stamina? Why are you able to learn new spells? Why are you able to even get more gold and buy a house or have a wife? This is all character progression. You have zero idea what you are talking about.

>no preperation is necessary on any difficulty
I never played on vanilla difficulties, so I cant really judge about this, but I doubt this still very much. I think Legendary difficult is pretty hard actually. Its just shitty because its just artificial difficulty.

>>266217212
better world and more shit to do

>>266217212
Flying & city vaults

>>266217212
Because being a hipster is cool on /v/

>>266217212

bigger map
more places to explore, aka unique places
more quests
more npcs
more lore
better music
more in-depth stats
two fleshed out expansions that are extremely good.

i could go on

>>266217704
Go on.

>>266208347
1000 fps would be in slow motion you fucking n'wah

>>266211068
>>>>>720p
PPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>266217617
>>266217514
>>266217404

#thisonesfortheshitposters

>>266217543
>Of course there is. What do you think are the perks for? Why is one able to leve up and gain MP/HP/Stamina? Why are you able to learn new spells? Why are you able to even get more gold and buy a house or have a wife? This is all character progression. You have zero idea what you are talking about.
None of this changes the way you play, unlike Morrowind and decent rpgs. Getting stronger doesn't make you stronger because your enemies level with you. You always walk the same speed, jump the same height. You can always teleport from place to place, you can always become master of every guild without having to grow as a character, none of it actually reflects your growth. It's all just numbers that give the impression of change, but because you then measure them up against equally high numbers, the sum always remains the same.
The only reason you and other casuals haven't realized this is because you lack any critical thinking ability.

>I think Legendary difficult is pretty hard actually. Its just shitty because its just artificial difficulty.
It is shitty, but it's also not very hard. All you do is weave back and forth, it's just that if you fuck up once, you're dead. Slow-mo spell makes everything easy, regardless. Requiem makes things slightly more interesting, as combat is over faster, but it's still just walking backwards to dodge an attack and walking forwards to hit the enemy. It doesn't feel good and isn't interesting.

>>266217704
>unique places
Which all look like shit. Plus dungeons are copypasta as fuck anyway.

>more quests
With the radiant quest system, Skyrim basically has an infinite amount of quests and over a hundret scripted quests. If you want even more, then just install mods.

>>266209056
have fun. It's a great game. Shit final boss fight. Amazing bossfight before the last.

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>>266218293

>radiant quest system

todd?

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>>266218293
>Skyrim basically has an infinite amount of quests

>>266217212
The main reasons for playing an RPG for me are character progression and exploring an interesting world. Morrowind has both of these and Skyrim has neither.
Have fun.

>>266218293
>Skyrim basically has an infinite amount of quests
Yeah, like Borderlands basically has an infinite amount of weapons, right?

>>266216593
>No, but chosing the right preparation and picking the right fights, picking right the right magic spell, picking the right weapon, etc, is tactics. Not to mention how tactics you can have when you mod the game and play with a party.

>picking the right fights
how do you pick fights in a linear dungeon

>picking the right spell
you generally only have a couple of options unless you've raised all your magic skills equally, at which point they'll all be massively underlevelled and useless due to skyrim's awful level scaling

>right weapon
lmfao, like that matters, just pick one with high damage output that swings at the speed you like

>>266214430
I've got a 760 and it runs at 60fps all on high

>>266218104
>None of this changes the way you play
Of course it does. To be able to play as a mage, you need to invest into magic perks obviously. To be able to play properly as an archer, you need to invest into archery perks. To be able to play a tank, you need good armor, and good weaponry, which you need gold for.

>your enemies level with you
Many people prefer enemy scaling, because it makes the game more balanced, while still being able to level up MP/HP/Stamina, however if you dont like this, then just mod it away. Its not that hard.

>You always walk the same speed
Still better than walking like a snail in Morrowind. Thank god you are able to literally learn how to walk there lol

>You can always teleport from place to place
if you dont like fast travel, then just dont use it, or mod it away. However, many people like fast travel, thats why its in the game. Since you can mod the game, "hardcore" player just can use mods against it.

>you and other casuals
You dont even know how I play the game, you retard. It seems unthinkable for you that one is able to mod Skyrim. Only shows that you are the actual casual here.

>>266218548
>I dont understand this radiant quest system and what is it?

>>266219250
Here's what it is
>Go to [random location] and kill [random enemy] and bring back his [random item]
It's nothing.

>>266218724
>how do you pick fights in a linear dungeon
You dont always just fight in dungeons. Did you even play the game? However, not every dungeon is linear anyway. Only bandit mines are understandibly very linear. If you want bgger dungeons then go into Dwemer dungeons.

But whatever. I am pretty tired to respond to you butthurt Skyrim haters. It makes no sense.

>>266219426
Its still a quest. If you like it or not is not important. I am always happy to get a new quest to raid some dungeons.

>>266219671

No, its a task, an errand, not a quest.

>>266219504
If the game presents an enemy, you fight it unless you have sneak leveled absurdly high, which for the first half of the game you won't, and for the second half of the game if you do, everything else will be stronger and your arsenal weaker as a result of skyrim's awful scaling

90% of the dungeons you come across are linear. 100% of the dungeons you come across in the first half of the game are linear. the dungeons that aren't linear are "nonlinear" in the same sense that "the walking dead" is nonlinear. maybe one or two actual branches, some shit that looks like branches, and it all comes back to the exact same point a few minutes later anyway (and you miss a bunch of shit if you don't check out both branches in the end anyway). so it's just more tedious, really.

the one exception was that giant dwemer ruin that the plot forces you to explore; it's obvious they took a lot of time on that one as it's considerably more open and well-designed. but that's the only dungeon in the entire game i remember that you could actually feasibly "pick your fights" in any significant manner (aside from just sneaking past everything).

>>266219134
>It seems unthinkable for you that one is able to mod Skyrim
I've trued Requiem, combat is harder but still the same shit. I've tried Duel, same shit. I'm currently using SPERG, haven't run into any truly interesting perks yet. I'm using TK Hitstop, it doesn't add as much as people say it does. I installed Morrowloot and Unique Uniques in hope of actually being able to find interesting stuff, haven't found anything so far but I'll be patient with that one. I've got TK Combat and Dodge, but just walking out of an attack is faster than dodging it.
Please tell me what mods do actually make it interesting.

>Of course it does. To be able to play as a mage, you need to invest into magic perks obviously
Quite the contrary. In order to invest into magic perks, you need to play as a mage. Your mage playstyle doesn't really change when you do get these perks.

>Many people prefer enemy scaling
Many people watch NASCAR

>because it makes the game more balanced
It doesn't

>while still being able to level up MP/HP/Stamina
It's a placebo

>however if you dont like this, then just mod it away. Its not that hard
See above, I haven't found any mods that fix Skyrim being a boring piece of shit.

>>266219671
But why would you bother? The reward is almost nothing and it doesn't lead anywhere, like at least in Morrowind when they gave you shitty fetch quests you knew it was only because you're a low-ranking scrub and better quests are down the line.

>>266208347
im in the nexus site where you download mods, and they want me to register to download the bigger files and want me to pay. whats a better site?

>>266220050
You don't have to pay

>>266219779
>>266219906
>>266219970
I can give you haters only one tip: If you don't like the game, then don't play it. Its simple as that. Have good day!

>>266220050
You don't have to pay

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>>266220113

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>>266220113

>>266220113
>I have no arguments but I must shill

>>266220237
>I play games which I actually hate

>>266220339
I don't hate it, I just think it's an awful game.

>>266216593
>and combat is also good

I...I just don't know anymore.

>>266220379
Comes down to the same. What kind of retard plays games which he thinks are actually auwful? Arguing with you people makes no sense at all, since you just pull shit out of your asses left and right. But being so dumb to play games which you actually dislike, is really funny.

>>266220339
>I shill games for free

>>266220339
>i like to be an idiot on the internet
so here's the process, since you're retarded or at least pretending
>like previous games in series
>buy new game because i'm sufficiently sold on the idea
>fun for the first few hours
>gets old fast
>try to find other ways to have fun
>occasional spark of fun here or there
>most of the time it's bland, repetitive shit
>already put in a bunch of time, may as well finish what i started
>finish it despite really not caring for it
hooray, i am now qualified to say "this game is shit" and actually have sufficient experience to back it up

and you are qualified to eat shit

>>266220534
I play the game because I like the lore and don't just want to read about it in a dry report on the imperial library. It's just the actual game part that's shit.

>>266220594
>If you like a game on /v/ you must be a shill

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>>266208798

>>266220113
Is Todd in the thread?

>>266220534
see >>266220650
you don't usually know right away whether you like or dislike a game. sometimes stuff that's fun for a few hours gets old really quick. additionally, you might find one or two parts of the game fun but not the thing the game focuses on, so you play to experience those parts despite not liking it.

please stop being retarded on the internet.

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>>266220682
>you

>>266219134

>Because it makes the game more balanced

Well, what's the point then? How can I feel the synethesia of growth when I'm always on level with all of my enemies?

I'm not a big fan of the souls games but at least they got THAT down.

>>266220682
>you are disallowed to have a negative opinions of games

>>266208568
>Optimizer Textures
You know what you could do instead? Delete that bloated HD DLC altogether and use some 1K texture packs from nexus that are higher quality despite being 4x smaller.

>>266216593

>Combat
>Good

It's barely combat, it's pointing your camera at something and watching the numbers dwindle

>>266208347
XBOX 360 and PlaySHIT 3 happened OP

What mods for the game to run better?

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>>266220731
Stop being so paranoid, of course I'm not.

>>266214430
>have 1GB VRAM
>play on high anyway
>no performance difference between medium

Fuck the police

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>>266220113

Did we hurt your feelings anon?

>>266220845
Where did I ever say this? I just said it makes no sense arguing with the Skyrim haters here.

>>266220981
the uninstall wizard

>>266214167

Underrated post. You get five stars nigga.

>>266221028
You're right, it does make no sense to argue with people who are totally, 100%, objectively right.

>>266221014
No, in contrary. I just laugh at you for wasting your time by playing games which you actually hate. I will have a very good time playing through Skyrim.

>>266221028
My dad always told me you should never start an argument you can't win.

>>266221039
That's not a mod, it comes with the game.

>>266221125
see >>266220650
see >>266220776
you act like we sit around replaying skyrim every day, i haven't played it in several years. i played oblivion and morrowind in the past few months because i actually enjoy those games.

>>266221143
To be honest, running it does modify the game files.

>>266211563
>In late game a true wizard can kill entire armies with one spell cast.

Which fucking game are you playing? Because it sure as hell isn't Skyrim

>>266221237
don't bother, it's like talking to a brick wall

>>266221125

>played a game, didn't like it

>thinks you still play it to search for more flaws

anon stop

>>266221331
>live in the 21 century
>being able to watch whole game playthroughs on youtube
>still having to put shittons of hours into games to actually find out if you like it or not
I dont have to play a game at all and can see wether i like it or not.

>>266221285
Nice bait! Just install colorful magic or whatever, and you can have your deadly magic.
or also just alter magic scaling magnitude.

>>266221479
Wow anon, I can see if game is shit even without playing it or watching gameplay on youtube. You spend too much time on that. :^)

>>266221068
Except that is called an opinion, and opinions are never right.

>>266221878
Yes, whether Skyrim is a good game or not is an opinion. Its quests heavily depending on combat, and the combat being, aside from the fact that you can't miss, essentially the same as Morrowind's, are not opinions. Those are facts that you somehow can't seem to accept.

Is there a good mod guide somewhere? I just intalled Skyrim too

>>266222129
http://www.tesgeneral.com/#!essential/cs1p
Seems pretty alright.

>>266221582
You know that doesn't make the game less shit right?
You can't just create shit that's easily moddable and have the community fix your game for you.

>>266222129
Did you install Nexus Mod Manager? Good. Now delete it and get Mod Organizer instead.

As for guides, there are several, but they are MASSIVE. Generally, you should always start with the unofficial patches, SKSE and SkyUI. If there's something particular that you want modded, ask away and maybe you'll get some answers here.

>>266222302
Oh, thanks a lot.
Going to start with those optimizer mods because I only get sub 10 FPS on medium..

>>266222062
Morrowind's but slower*

>>266222381
>now delete it and get Mod Organizer instead.
Got it

I used to mod Oblivion before so I know what I'm getting into, but this seems even more confusing

what is THE best mods for skyrim?

Oh god, the casuals coming to /v/ thing was totally true. I didn't believe...

>>266222550
>/v/
>not a bunch of scrubs

>>266222550
You know what the worst part is?
We're the minorities.

>>266222648
/v/ has always been shit at games, but at least we weren't casual.

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>>266208347
>having a clock mod

Useless, takes up space on the hud AND it's an immersion breaker. I really don't understand.

>>266222550
/v/ is always right.

>>266222381
Some mods dont work very well with MO and require NMM to install properly, so it's not a good idea to get rid of NMM.

>>266222504
It's actually easier with MO. It allows you to do everything without overwriting any files, automatically sorts the esp files and warns you whenever a master file is missing.

>>266222550
>you can't play casual games if you play hardcore games

>>266212830
He's right, though. Out of all the 7th gen Bethesda RPG, Skyrim is probably the most "console-ized" with its simple UI, lack of satisfying game play, and simpler NPC interactions. And yet the game still plays like shit on consoles.

The vanilla PC release has weapon/item hotkeys so you don'the need to spend so much time in the menus, it runs generally better, has customizable graphics and a fuck load of great mods that add depth. And it's cheaper, too (steam sale 5 bucks).

Consoles are the non-ideal way to play them. I mean PC Sky rim even has controller support

>>266222787
The only one I encountered is ERSO, and the author came up with a fix for that.

>>266222802
you retard of course you can, how stupid are you. just don't try and defend skyrim as somehow not shit. its shit.

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>>266219779
>, which for the first half of the game you won't

>he didn't max out sneaking at the bear in the tutorial cave

>>266223076
you sound like a dumb faggot. opinions can't be facts. no matter how hard you try you will never be right. also this has nothing to do with your original comment.

>>266214704
>not realizing you now have the perfect LAN, local multiplayer/split/shared screen gaming machine, therefore the best kind of machine if you have any friends whatsoever

Hide your pleb, Anon. I just got a 600 dollaroo laptop, and it plays all my games fine, with less equipment, more versatility, and less electricity than my desktop.

I just wish I could play fucking Planetside 2 on it.

>>266223294
I bought a 1500 euro laptop that overheated when playing Diablo 2.

>>266223351
If so you deserved it

>>266223351
Gaming laptops overheat even when they're turned off.

>>266220113
>not allowed to criticize things

>>266223447
I definetly did, shoulda done more research.

>>266223275
im not even that guy faggot, it was pretty obvious what he was referring to, considering this thread. also thats not an opinion. skyrim is shit, deal with it.

>>266223351
>>266223447
>>266223471
mine is always cool. he bought a shitty laptop

>>266223626
>also thats not an opinion
do I need to educate you, dumb faggot? i don't care if you think it's shit, that's your opinion and it will never be right. no shit it was obvious, that's not my point. if you were him it would have sounded retarded how far he jumped from that to your bullshit.

>>266222648
This guy unironically used the word haters in 2014. /v/ has fallen, too many new folks that didn't feel like lurking.

>>266208347
The mod disabled your vsync. That's it.

The game breaks at anything above 110FPS anyways, so why even care?

>>266223890
deal with it casual

>>266223890
Not that guy, but there is a whole array of arguments as to why the game is badly designed, many of which can be seen in this thread. This has nothing to do with opinions.

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>Want trees and grass in Skyrim to not look like shit
>20fps

>>266224026
deal with it hardcore call of duty faggot

>>266224076
that is called an opinion. i can understand something being more frustrating/annoying but that's still an opinion, and i'm sure it can be turned around to something positive. "badly designed" is also an opinion. some people think it has a good design and can explain the change is for the better. it has everything to do with opinions.

>Crisp cold morning
>Hot chocolate or tea ready
>Snowy relaxing city
>This song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo3VAltxlr8
No excuses motherfuckers this game is comfy as fuck.

>>266209056

I like Darksiders 2 better than 1 over all but Darksiders 1 ending was much better, while's 2 was open ended.

Darksiders1 ending was like. I fucked you all up, ruined your plans, survived, best the best you could throw at me and there's 3 more of me just as powerful. They are coming, and when they arrive, we will rain a shit storm on you the likes of which have never been seen on earth, heaven or hell.

I still get chills, mang.

>>266213482

Uh, I'm not OP but I have it off and Vsync on. No issues. "Stealth AI for followers" is fucking up Inigo occasionally but oh well.

>>266224313
>call of duty
>hardcore
are you fucking serious. also, i just read your first post again, and never in that other anons comment did he imply that casuals coming here somehow precludes playing hardcore games. just how retarded are you honestly? am i being tricked?

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>>266224168
>Manage to get everything looking amazing
>Steady 60fps
>CTDs every 4 minutes
FUCK

>>266224951
You did something wrong and need to use mod organizer and tes5edit to see the reason you're crashing.

Skyrim is actually really well optimized. I could run it in my old piece of shit computer which couldn't even run some 2D games.

>>266210000
>Implying DX9 is not enough

People are this retarded, DX11 just added tessellation (that 1% of the games use) and DX12 will just add some frontend for using the GPU as a GPGPU a la Mantle that nobody is going to use anyways.

>>266225221
It's better optimised than Oblivion, at least. Wouldn't call it well optimised though, those 2D games tend to just use ridiculously high textures for their graphics, or are on some trash engine I'm looking at you Risk of Rain

>>266225041
My problem specifically is my water replacer mod and floral overhaul mod conflicted. Any water enhancement mod caused CTDs for me actually and yes I've tried several other floral and landscape texture mods but they never play well together.

>>266225723
I have one called pure water. The other water mods always fucked my game.

>>266225291
DX11 optimizes shader code so you can have effects without raping your frame rate. Most new games with DX11 have and will continue to use tesselation.

>>266225221
It is not but it's better than other bethesda games.

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Are there any mods which let me drive a car or truck around Skyrim?

>>266226272
Yes

>>266224698
>taking what i said literally
damn you are one easily fooled dumb faggot fuck. and I'm pretty damn sure that's what he was thinking. otherwise he would have said something

>>266216593
Bullshit bro. I played a mage and was planning to do it highly tactical.

I prepared by picking the right spells, laying traps, having all my shit charged up before going into battle, having a route of escape, using familiars, traps and normal magic in combination with modded longer spells and i still got the shit kicked out of me because i was low level.

Is a 7970 comparable to a 660ti

>>266229060
Oh hey it's this dork again. Still showing nothing but water flowing because anything else drops to 1 FPS?

>>266211068
>1280x720
>game looks like medium settings without any mods
>goys plx download skyrim. dis mod werks 100% i promixe

fucking retard

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>>266229317
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>>266208347

Skyrim caps the framerate at 60 for consistent physics, not because it can't render above 60 times a second...

>>266213591

>hey guys how do we stop piracy?
>uh...make the game bigger?
>Genius, lets not compress any of our textures!

>>266220113

so mad