The comments on the reviews are what really get me. The comment section sounds like the definition of shilling, except that its EVERYONE. "Wow I'm glad this game got a good score because I can't wait to play it on my Xbox One!!" "I guarantee this will be game of the year because of the awesome and innovative Nemesis system!" "I heard my cousin say you can get 200 hours of gameplay out of this game!"
I'll be honest, I did not have much of any hope for this game. It didn't look like it had an original bone in its body, and seemed so blatantly derivative with its setting. Making up new characters and stories in the LOTR setting just to milk the franchise more does not make me a fan, in fact in pushes me away. The nemesis "feature" just seemed like a crappy gimmick that would get old after the second or third time it happens.
Yet, somehow, this is actually getting good reviews and they're saying that the nemesis thing actually works well. I don't know who to believe, as the game isn't out yet, but so far it seems like Destructoid is the only site with consistently negative things to say about it. It's kind of blowing my mind and making me re-evaluate my negative opinions about it. I kind of want to play it now...
>>265561402 In the modern age of "embargo reviews until after the game is out so all you day one purchasers don't know it's shit" are you really going to get upset at pre-release reviews giving some early indication of the game's quality, and thus helping you to make an informed purchasing decision?
>>265561920 How do you know that? The only source of info you've gotten about the game in any way, shape, or form has been video game journalism and you clearly hold no value in that. This could be a 4x space game for all you know from playing it firsthand or public opinion.
>>265558717 >all of these reviews are just apart of the marketing with warner bros trying to shill with the best of them >w-well it worked for mass effect, certainly it will work for us! calling it right now
>>265562457 So you're saying that from the coverage the game has received from the people who make it telling you what they want you to know, and from games 'journalist' coverage, you've been informed enough about the videogame to make a better decision than you would have whilst going in totally blind?
Well I'll be! It's almost like you just proved your own earlier point to be totally moronic!
>>265563609 There is already enough of gameplay out for this turd to judge it and make your own opinion. Monolith Productions hasn't made anyything good since F.E.A.R. 1/Condemned 1 because all the talented staff left right after that. Shill harder, WB whore.
>>265564036 So it's generic. Like that's something new. You guys know that call of duty still exists and it still makes Activision obscene amounts of cash, right? AAA is so risk-averse and dull that it's not even worth getting worked up over. If someone had fun playing this game, who fucking cares? Have you guys played it?
can't find the review I read earlier (I think business insider)
-open world, but the two areas you go through are pretty small, can take you two minutes to travel across -game is short for open world, around 25 hours (not sure if it included side quests)
-story is there for the sake of a story, main character is boring and motivated only by revenge
+orcs and nemesis system are cool +fighting looks good and doesn't look repetitive ~gameplay is good, possibly hard at times, although it borrows elements from the arkham games ~side quests are a mixed bag as some can be fun, and others seem just for the sake of a side quest
>>265563994 It looks like a boring Ass Creed with LOTR setting. Nemesis looks like a poorly implemented gimmick with no depth that will get old in a couple hours. Combat seems to be easy as fuck and "press X to takedown". It looks terrible and "professional" reviews mean nothing, specially from fucking polygon of all places.
>casual as fuck action game that hides behind a couple coats of wow and pizazz and fancy animations >"dark, mature" version of popular IP >provides a bunch of shit to do giving the illusion of depth
I think the better question is why people let Assassin's Creed and Arkham shit happen.
>tfw you will not die once in a game >tfw you do die and it's because of some dumb shit that highlights how hollow and poorly made a game is. >tfw you are caught between shit like this on one end and weeb shit on the other
The gore physics look amazing. You can even see the light reflecting off it. I've always liked the batman combat, but adding gore like this is amazing. Also, saying it's too easy are the people who don't try combos. It's so much more fun if you have combos in it. And people who are saying it's a bad port because of 6 VRAM don't know that's the ultra mode, and that it also includes the high res texture pack. You could easily get ultra on 3 VRAM without it. I do want to see how good it looks in 4K if it supports it with the high res texture pack with the gore. This is my most anticipated game of the year besides Dark Souls 2, but we saw how that turned out. Hopefully this game delivers. Will you be using a controller or keyboard to play it on PC?
>>265564860 Moderate posts get ignored in favor of extremist opinions, don't you know? Why do you think /pol/ went down the toilet after its creation? People will only ever react to other posts that make them emotionally invested until the whole place is naught but angry shouting and opinions that barely make sense anymore.
>>265560276 Honestly I don't know why anyone cares about tolkien lore at this point. It's become the foundation of the genre and has been equaled and exceeded many times. Why aren't you mad about all the other tolkien games that butchered the lore? because they were bad games? so you're upset that the game is good? grow a pair you little princess.
I'm gonna enjoy it for what it is. The lore will probably be butchered, but i'm not invested enough in Lotr to care much. The gameplay looks solid. My only fear is that it's going to be too easy which has been mentioned by a few reviewers here and there.
>>265558717 >levels worthy of a past gen title >animations are bad, with characters levitating to their determined spot to have the prescripted AWESOME action playing >bad version of Batman's combat >high resolution shitty texture, so you can watch how bad we suck at texturing without blur
>>265565840 >A fading race that barely has any members left, no technology to speak of, only skills are in lithe forms of combat, and prefers to piss around in the woods all day keeping to themselves >Only real claim to fame is, is that they are pretty to look at >Mary Sue
Don't use words you don't understand the meaning of.
>>265566656 >that's pretty Mary Sue No it isn't. You still don't understand what it means. Google is your friend.
Mary Sue stories—the adventures of the youngest and smartest ever person to graduate from the academy and ever get a commission at such a tender age. Usually characterized by unprecedented skill in everything from art to zoology, including karate and arm-wrestling. This character can also be found burrowing her way into the good graces/heart/mind of one of the Big Three [Kirk, Spock, and McCoy], if not all three at once. She saves the day by her wit and ability, and, if we are lucky, has the good grace to die at the end, being grieved by the entire ship.
Mary Sue's are self idealized characters. You can't just say an entire race of fictional entities are Mary Sue's, it doesn't even apply to Elves anyway, they aren't good at everything, they aren't liked by everyone, and vast majority of the time they don't affect anything.
Basically you can influence/assassinate uruks in their chain of command and cause strife/chaos in the ranks. You can take control of one and have him overthrow his commanding officer or have war break about between many. Also you use their personality traits, etc. to influence them.
Basically it's what Assassins Creed should have been but wasn't because Ubisoft sucks dicks.
>call the game boring >give it a high score in the same review >copy pasted Bam Ham combat with Ass Creed gameplay mechanics pasted into LOTR lore >unoptimized code asking PC users to steal hardware from NASA >game of the year material
Of course reviewers would love it. They can't play games worth a damn and these things basically play themselves with the occasional player input. They're the definition of the press X to awesome type of games.
>>265558717 AHAHA CRY more you fucking sensitive fucking 7 year old dick sucking faggot racism is actually allowed in the usa you fucking enslaved african nigger european dad fucking kike gook chink spic heeb towel headed suicide bombing beaner negro white trashed inbred coon redskinned queer if you cant handle it kill urself before its too late and shit i dont know how u sucked ur dads dick persuading him u fucking bitch ass pussy crybaby fag grow some fucking nuts oh wait the only way you can get some if they surgically paste some on ur virgin faggot vagina run little faggot run like always haha thats why ur family is bankrupt little fucker only a fucking faggot anti social bitch ass pussy irl would put his actual location on the internet no wonder ur always getting bullied in game you fucking moose fucking sap sucking bitch ass nigger boy prince HAHAHAHA made bitch angry faggot.ur proof that ur a wannabe jap gook chink that watches gay furry porn gay cowboy sexing hentai everyday in ur cave fortress chamber after u get bullied all day for being a faggot whiteboy wannabe nigger bitch crying all day fucking faggot 24/7 now thats what fucking happens to little bitch boy baby faggot ill enjoy feasting on your flesh irl you fucking faggot slave you deserve to be hanging on my trees you fucking monkey, getting LYNCHED from my apple tree hahah fucking e-warrior meet me irl ill make sure you NEVER make it back to your fucking dungeon chamber cave tomb vietnamese rathole you call your bedroom you stupid illiterate piece of shit nigger
>>265558717 Oh God one of the comments over at IGN >oh man i hope there's a lot of lore in this, im such a huge tolken geek (for example did u know that the sword aragorn gets before rohan saves gondor is named anduril?) id love it
>>265558717 because video games are where all the b-stories from big name movies and franchises and long revered old books "new" stories go because no one has any fucking taste
game of the year? sure. because despite how much SJW's cry for inclusivity, and how much people want games to be considered art, they're made for a demographic that is mostly young, naive, and generally have no fucking taste.
think about all the bullshit you liked when you were younger, and try and go back and watch a lot of it. If you don't cringe, you are their key demographic.
So its confirmed for shit? No game has ever felt like its dont everything for me like the arkham games. Holy shit just press one button watch batman do this AMAZING FEAT! PRESS Y SO DIFFICULT WOW COMPLEX GAMPLAY!!!
Seriously Arkham games combat is shit and you are a retard if you think it has any depth
>>265568797 mother fucker you dont know who the fuck i am, you are a fag who likes sticking it in guys asses and you best believe that you'd be the one getting crammed in your fuckin rear by my Ukranian Fort-500 shotgun before i blow your fucking guts out your chest you faggit little bitch your fucking pathetic you best hope i never head to your town, i'll find yeah and shank you in your sleep, you wanna die motherfucker? faggit little cracker, hahaha I betyou aint ever even gotten and coochie, huh? ever got any pussy? i dont even keep count anymore, but it is definately past 35 cuz thats where i lost count bout a year or two ago, added a few since then, so ask yourseld, should your faggit no coochie gettin bitch ass maybe try to shut the fuck up, or do you want to hear more about how fuckin gay and lame you are? you cocksucking homo bastard go kill yourself you worthless chunk of shit, your useless and lame as fuck, and i cant wait to show your gay ass faggit no roastin abilities, you couldn't talk shit even if you ate shit, go slit your wrists you aint cool at all give up on your gay ass life
>>265569525 >everything is just divine providence Yeah difference is Works seem to matter unlike in Earthen Christianity where pious Faith overrules everything. Most motherfuckers on middle earth wouldn't of even heard of Eru Illuvatar.
>>265569541 >Reflexes and rhythm What reflexes and rhythm. Batman flies across the fucking world to punch one other bad guy so you dont even have to bother pressing Y to counter. you can just dodge by punching the farthest guy on screen.
My store sent it out too early. I don't know why am I writing this because faggots will call me marketer, but the game is good /v/. Not 10/10, but it is good. After 9 games on my ps4 this is the first game which gave me the feeling that I am entertained.
>>265570605 Real funny faggot ass bitch. You think this is a joke? You think giving me lip is a good idea? I'll fucking murder you. Yeah making fun of me is so funny, so funny I forgot to laugh. If you wanna talk like that to me why don't you come here and say it to me face so I can answer your insults with a swift fist to the nose. Yeah you have a lot to say from hundreds of miles away but I bet if my fists were in reach of your face you would be like a tv on mute with no volume button. So do yourself a favor and keep your mouth shut unless you want to die. Next time you think about saying something like that to me I want you to remember one thing. I know the guy that created google maps and I can locate you in the time it took me to type this. Don't want anymore problems.... didn't think so faggot. You have any idea what ninjaku is? I do, I was in the Japanese secret service and I perfected it. I'm fully capable of using it on you motherfuckers. Do you know the dander your in if I find you? I am 100$ serious. Bunch of god damn newfaf loser here and I will not have it.
>>265570190 Frodo is literally the most useless character in LotR. Maybe i forgot about some things because it's been an eternity since i read the books, maybe the movies made me forget some things, but i can't recall a single useful thing that shithead has ever done by himself. He's pretty much there just so that Samwise doesn't have to carry the ring himself. Asides from that everything is done by him and to an extent Smeagol. God i hate Frodo.
>>265570343 I'm just saying what the author said firsthand in letters to his publisher brah.
I love the books and all but reading the letters really takes away from it all. once you know how much of a raging christfag tolkien was and how literally every fucking thing is an allegory for providence and temptation it just seems less interesting.
The silmarillion is superior to hobbit and LotR even if its the closest parallel to the christian bible.
>>265570190 On this subject, since Tolkien and Lewis were bros, in the final Narnia book, someone got to get into Aslan's Kingdom by just being a good person and helping save the world, despite he didn't know Aslan/praise him like the four kids did.
The immense Christian butthurt at the time over someone getting loved over works and not extreme jesusfaith was enough to actually anger Lewis, a staunch Christian himself.
>>265570816 hit it on the head. the only thing frodo had was the providence from Illuvitar to actually let the ring go, and even then almost fails if not for sam. sam admitted he would succumb to the ring if he was to go it alone and frodo knows he would too without sam.
Sam was the true hero with actual character flaws. frodo was the actual mary sue of the story. as a reward at the end frodo fucking commits sudoku and sam ends up marrying his dream girl, having tons of kids, and becoming the sherriff of the shire.
>>265558717 I'm hoping it turns out to be strategic stealth centered rather than combat centered. Where the goal is using minions and distractions/other stealthy shit to reach your objective, rather than, "Mash attack, run too target" like the more recent Assassin's Creed games have turned into. inb4 it is combat centric, but with shitty, "Don't get caught/seen" levels like Assassin's Creed. Why are there no stealth games any more with ingame-punishments for failing? It's all meta shit like, restart the level, etc. Why are there no, "You can fight head on, but you're excessively weak, so if you break stealth, fighting head on (and likely losing) is your punishment" rather than just, "You were seen, try again" - I am ready to be disappointed, gonna wait a while to buy this, if I buy it at all. /walloftext&rant
>>265571507 Something to add on, I just recently got a PS3, should I pick up MGS4 or the new thief for a game like what I described as ideal here? Someone recommend me a good stealth game or open world game that's no just, melee/shoot enemies to win
>>265571823 thats sudoku mang. the uttermost West is heaven bro. the elves can pretty much go there when they are tired of life. they can go sit in the halls of... Mendos? (forgot name) until the end of time and see arda crumble away. Men die and fade away as a gift, they cannot handle what the elves are destined to.
when mortals go there its giving up on life. the uttermost west is now the fucking moon too so imagine the boat going out into the ocean, hitting a point and then sailing to the moon on waves of starlight.
shits whacky but you gotta make the parallel with the uttermost west being heaven at this point.
frodo is kill by the end, willingly so and fully understanding it. thats why his departure is so melancholy.
>>265571507 It's going to be hugely combat centered, pretty much all gameplay has shown that. I know they showed a lot of sneaking, but all i got from that was that stealth was piss fucking easy and enemies have no awareness at all. Personally i'd expect stealth being even easier than AC. Also most of the abilities they've shown are centered around killing enemies in large numbers.
>>265571959 >new thief game fuck no. Get Dishonored instead, it's a better game overall aswell as a better stealth game. All the splinter cells up to double agent were good stealth games, conviction was fun aswell but way more combat centered. I've heard the newest one was better but i stopped caring after conviction.
Also MGS V but you probably know that already. And before playing MGS 4 i'd recommend playing 1-3, the plot is convoluted as it is, it ain't gonna get better if you don't know shit about the characters or backstory.
>>265572212 the eagles would refuse and its assumed that the idea of asking something from them is a huge "favor" that gandalph can barely cash in.
the eagles are equal to gandalph (minutely below him actually) just in a different form, and there are certain rules gandalph had to follow on middle earth, you can assume the eagles work under a certain code of ethics, and even helping the mortals the first time was probably pushing it for them anyway.
>>265567132 I assume what he means is that elves are superhuman in beauty, grace, and speed, as well as immortal. Other than that though they're generally selfish dickbags whom everyone hates, they do stupid shit for stupid reasons like jealousy and greed, and the world would be better off without them.
No even being racist, it's the truth. I'm disgusted that they're even considered children of Iluvatar.
>>265573089 its not fans hyping shit. its dedicated PR masquerading as fans shoving it down everyones throat. how this type of thing isn't illegal is insane, but sadly on the internet its impossible to prove.
do you really think a teenage fan would mention the Nemesis System as a proper noun? at all even? or on their Xbox One as a proper noun? at all even?
learn to hear PR speak and alot of shit that comes out of the industry can be ignored. the problem is these goons are getting exceedingly efficient at convincing dummies that they are in fact not PR.
>>265572460 I don't usually like platformers, but I'll look into it, thanks. >>265572730 I heard the new thief was bad, I also heard Dishonored was pretty combat centric though, or atleast easy to play that way. I've already played the splinter cell games and then dropped it at conviction thanks Gamestop for your 7 day used game policy MGS is what I'm looking at, I played the first 2 on PS1 and then played both the PSP ones and enjoyed them.
Thanks for all the recommendations, I might drive out today and pick up one or two.
>>265575356 >recommended all of that seems bearable for recommended settings, it's supposed to be a current gen game after all. 6 Gigs of Vram is laughable though, for any setting. What i've seen from this game does never justify a 1000 bucks graphics card.
>>265576602 >the one year when Nintendo was expected to carry the industry in terms of games because for all the others this is a transition period when next gen games are not ready yet >worst vidya year of the decade
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