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>Really want to play a good MMO
>None exist

Why.
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>>265543162
>good

Black desert is playable if you're willing to jump through some flaming hoops
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>>265543283
What, like learning korean?
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Never watch MMO anime OP, they will make you crave something you will NEVER EVER have

>You'll never live a second life through an MMO making friends and going on adventures and stuff
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>>265543162
how about you list which ones you have tried and how long you gave it before passing judgement on it being bad?
or are you basing your judgements on peoples opinions and general shitposting?
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>>265543469
FFXIV
WoW
Tera
Archeage
Few hours in each of them.
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How come no one made a sandbox mmo so far?
Just look at the succes of that shitty, early acces bullshit minecraft
You could have a levelling system where instead of growing stronger, you get points to invest in crafting so you're able of build shit most people can't, specializing on working wood, stones, clothing and so on, then you'd auction your shit to afford the things you can't craft and build your stuff
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>>265543469
The game, and what level I dropped it at:

WoW - 18

Rift - 21

Tera - 26

Guild Wars 2 - 6

Newest Final Fantasy - 23

I was gonna try Wildstar, but I heard nothing but bad about it, MMOs are too expensive to be trying out like that
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>>265543684
How is Realm Reborn doing?
Is it dead yet?
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>>265543587
>>265543684
Those are all relatively short experiences with in each game. probably only a few hours. Maybe try different classes? game play can often change a lot by choosing a different class

or it's just that mmo games aint for you? just like FPS games aint for me. i tried em and couldnt get into them. good mmo's do exist, but its all relative to the player.
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FFXI used to be good but now it sucks

MMOs are dead

FFXIV is a literal WoW clone
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>>265543587
A few hours isn't enough to fully form an opinion of the game, Final Fantasy XIV's content doesn't even start until you reach the level cap.
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>>265543969
>FFXI used to be good but now it sucks
What happened?
I was thinking of getting it
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>>265543969
different universe. different combat style. Different story. Different art style...

Same type of quests. Go kill X or loot X..
>OMG WOW CLONE..
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>>265543623
It's called Archage and any other MMO before World of Warcraft.
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I'm playing the original Everquest. it's good.
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>>265543162
>>265543587
What exactly are you looking for in an MMO? Maybe MMOs aren't for you.
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>>265543905
>wow
>a few hours

wut
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>>265544183
see>>265543434
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I actually dropped Realm Reborn around level 31 and I was thinking of resubbing

Be honest, should I?
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>>265543434
>You'll never live a second life through an MMO making friends and going on adventures and stuff

That's what happened to me in WoW during Vanilla and BC.
It never gonna happen again.
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>>265543998
>you have to play this game for 20 hours so you can finally start enjoying it
no, stop it.
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>>265544236
Go play Second Life?
Go play Everquest Landmark?
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>>265544097
you can actually build cities wall by wall in those? only mmo i played before wow was RO
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>>265544056

Every since Abyssea the game hasn't been the same. Basically solo to 99 and do boring repetitive shit instead of the journey it was before. Every zone is a barren desolate wasteland, especially the starter zones. The economy is dead, etc.
The only people still playing are the people who would literally kill themselves once the servers went offline. No fresh blood at all. It's stagnant and there's like 500 people per server now
The storyline and missions are still good of course if you want to just play it as a single player RPG and solo everything (which can be done easily now) and the world is still cool and fun to explore but as an MMO it's dead
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>>265543898
I think it's the most alive MMO out there after WoW.
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>>265544347
But that is true in a game designed to last years. ok. maybe not outright dislike the game untill 20 hours in, But mmo's have expanding stories, developing your character, gaining new armour.
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World of Darkness was the last hope for the MMO genre.
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>>265544347
The real content doesn't start until the endgame, everything before that is one giant tutorial to prepare you for the endgame.

You are complaining about how the game is bad when you haven't even got past the tutorial yet.
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>>265544347
You're hardly going to outright love the game in the starting zone..
>wooo i killed 2 boars with my level 1 spell...
As you progress into the game, unlock skills and dungeons you will grow to like the game more as your character develops and you find a guild to play with.

That is what people mean when you have to give the game time.
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>>265544596
let me guess, the end game conists in raids to get better gear and pvp
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>>265544573
looks like shit but I'm still ginving ToS a chance
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I would probably love MMOs if my faggot friends would play them.
But they got a mix of ADD and being poor
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>>265544596
What mmo is this?
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MMO is a shit genre, there's nothing interesting about them

it's just second life with bland gameplay elements reapiting over and over
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>>265544809
ff14
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>>265544830
>opinions.
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>>265544809
ff14
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>>265544674
You also have company housing and player housing, crafting jobs that focus on crafting instead of combat and ilvl gear, and other things to do outside of just doing raids and PVP
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>>265543162
>tree of savior
get hyped
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>>265544674
Endgame for battle classes is raiding yes
PvP is give or take completely disjointed from the rest of the game.
Crafters have got their own endgame with their own mechanics and progression. Full-fledged classes that don't intrude on the battle territory at all.
If you completely despise living you can always take up fishing as well.
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Everyone also shits on MMO games because they forget one of the biggest things.. Friends.. they play it like a solo game. nothing beats getting a few mates on voice chat and having fucking laugh running instances, chilling and chatting crap all day.
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>>265543162
You missed out if you didn't play Runescape in the golden days.
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>>265545356
This. The only difference between modern and old MMOs is that old MMOs FORCED you to socialize. Newer don't.
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>>265543162
Dungeons and Dragons Online can be fun if you have a bunch of friends to play with, and some money to spend.
Then again, this could be said about a lot of games.
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>>265543905
>it gets better after 50 hours
>why did you play it for so long if you didn't like it ?
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>>265543162
Eve Online is good. But it takes a certain kind of person to enjoy it.

The problem is that modern MMOS eliminated what used to make them good: the social aspects.

Even WoW was more social back then, when you had to go around town and find some groups to do instances with before flying and riding there.
Now with dungeon finder everything is some kind of "instant reward, no need for socializing" thing. That's the wrong direction.

I wish you could travel back in time and play SWG OP. Easily the best MMO ever.
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>>265543587
Archeage is the most pay2win mmo I've seen in the last two years.
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why hasnt there ever been a good mmo?
no, WoW was not good. if it had gameplay it would've been great but it doesn't have any gameplay
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>>265545446
Better after 50 hours. that does not imply you dont like it at all at the start...
fuck people are so black and white at times...
You start the game and think. this looks like it could become better once i get a guild, a few more skills and some dungeons to run with them..
>50 hours later
You have a group of friends and 10-15 skills, and you have options to dungeon. pvp. chill out. and quest.
>the game has gotten better!
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>>265545624
You were too young to play MMOs when they were good.
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Don't be fooled by people claiming that FFXIV is somehow better than the competition. It's beautiful, and it has a fantastic soundtrack, but the levelling content is generally dull and the endgame content is both incredibly repetitive and incredibly boring.

It's worth trying out, but I got to just up to the Binding Coil of Bahamut when Turn 4 (or maybe 5, I can't recall which one) was at the time unbeatable and dropped the game. Haven't touched it since.
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>>265545356
>friends
Like every other game ever, you fucking mongoloid?
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>>265545624
Name one MMO that has better PVP than WoW
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>>265545716
Well, through the virtue of having no P2W and amazing production values it's automatically better than competition. The actual content's got ways to go but at least devs are putting some fucking effort so that the game doesn't fold in a month like literally every other new MMO.
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>>265545794
Planetside 2
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>>265545705
>being retarded
the only "mmo"s with gameplay are heavily instanced which makes it not-so-mmo
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>>265545794
even gw2 does
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>>265545728
no. not like every other game.. so many games, have matchmaking that doesn't require you to find friends. CoD. you click find game, you do not have to chat or talk to anyone.
Racing games are the same.

So no.. not like every other game you mongoloid..
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>>265543162
Dragon's Nest is pretty fun
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it still hurts
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>>265545867
Come back to /v/ in ~5 years, maybe then you're not underage anymore.
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Almost did
Almost fucked resubbed
But my friend talked me out of it
Thank god
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>>265545794
Spiral Knights. It's Bomberman, mang.
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>>265545967
but how do you know you wouldn't enjoy it?
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>>265543162
because MMOs in their core are nothing more than skinner boxes with shitload of content, but shallow gameplay. you can't make them good if you dislike never-ending grind.
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EverQuest II for PvE
DAoC for PvP
Anything else is shit.
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>>265546056
cause I have no friends to play with
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>>265546130
Make some in game?
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>>265543684

Did you play pre-cata for WoW?

If you dropped out at level 18 post Cata then I really don't think MMO's are for you. The cata questing experience in the old world is fantastic.
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>>265546187
I remember trying, people are really resistant to it.
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>>265545716
FF14 is easily better than anything on the market, thats coming from someone who isn't play it at all right now. I maxed out my black mage and finished turn 5.

The only thing that makes the content boring is it requires a friend like every mmo. That aside the story is good or at the very least decent and worth following unlike most mmos and the class system is interesting.

The major flaws of the game are
Zones are small and you constantly have to travel between them so you are constantly loading
End Game is almost too easy to reach, and even then getting maxed out gear is just as easy
The game is brought down by the fact they made it for consoles as well

Plus what compeition does it really have? ArcheAge? A p2w mmo
WoW? A dying mmo that everyone has played and is trying to move on from
Tera? A game that plays extremely differently and is also p2w
Aion? A decent game but small community, and overall very generic
Rift? A game that will be dead in a year or two

Plus they are getting the thief class for free and that will make me rebuy my sub
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>>265545936
I liked the combat more than every other MMO, its a shame I don't see more of it or anything close to it and I've tried Tera, C9, RaiderZ and Vindictus. But is it really an MMO where everything but town is an instance?
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>>265546467
Forgot to mention GW2 but it has 0 end game content and only panders to new players and doesn't give a damn about veteran players and they said before they don't intend to do expansions
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>>265546508
Guild Wars 1 was like that
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I've never played WoW or any other MMO for a long time.

Would it still be worth getting into now? Everyone says the glory days are gone, and I don't have any friends who play it, but I'd love to just be able to sink some ours into a long running progressive social experience.
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>>265546467
>failing to mention how FFXIV has the MOST BORING itemization ever in any MMO

Literally every upgrade you get is just +2/+2 to your main stats. No item ever comes with anything else. Nothing unique, nothing interesting.

What were they thinking? Never seen such boring items.
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>>265546642

Wait until the new expansion in a month tbh.
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>>265546508
Unfortunately, but yeah, the combat is why I fucking love it.

I find myself playing it every now and then.
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>mfw swg, the only mmo I ever liked, died.
>mfw I hated it near the end anyways
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>>265546667
More choices is less choices!
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>>265546508
and the gender lock grinds my gears..
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>>265546667
It was very casualized for consoles, part of that arguement but yeah, the fact the upgrades are so stagnant isn't the best but its still acceptable at least since most other mmos have generic items as well
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>>265546642

Wait until WoD, but aye- it's worth resubbing.

Be prepared to have to work to find your social experience. Get to cap- find yourself a guild and it's all good.
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>>265546767
You and me bro.

SWG was the bomb. Even after CU it was still good.

But that fucking NGE. One day will Smedley will pay for it.
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>>265546734
>>265546836
Yeah, that was my plan, but assuming it delivers or at least doesn't flop completely.

The only daunting aspect is everyone says "resubbing", and I don't know if I'd fit in if I'm completely new.

But I'll wait and see I guess.
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because modern MMOs dont understand that the greater community is the most important aspect. FF14's constant cross-server instancing discourages server community growth. even city of heroes could pull off a server community, and it was 100% instances. I just dont get how people can constantly fuck it up so hard
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Try Final Fantasy Remnants sometime. It's a decent time waster if you're a fan of FF4.

It's down right now, but it's on BYOND and teaming up with bros is fun.
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>>265546829
Really? Who gives a shit? If someone thinks you're a girl and you're a guy:

Exploit them

IF someone thinks you're a guy but you're a girl:

Exploit them

Everyone wins
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>>265544738
this except they only want to play fucking Dota
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>>265547027
Exactly

>>265545449
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>There will never be an mmo like SWG anymore
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>>265546957

You'll find somewhere- or you'll go browse MMO until you know enough to fit in. :)

R.e the new content- it's fantastic, and you'll be able to jump right into Draenor with a free 90. Mind, the only issue with that is you don't really get much of a feel for your class.

What did you play before class wise?
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>>265547027
Hunts brought the community together for a patch. Screaming and kicking but fucking hell they did it. On a few servers there's massive public teamspeak efforts to get hunting marks down cooperatively in an efficient manner. That, despite how much of a cheap shot it was, was a good thing.
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Dungeon Fighter Online should be back up by the end of the year. Can't wait.
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>>265547162
but I fucking hate that game
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>>265547086
i dont care what others think, i don't want to play a female mage, its personal aesthetics
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>>265547129
>you'll be able to jump right into Draenor with a free 90

th-th-that's not meant to be a selling point is it?

I played Priest.
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Did you guys see Maplestory 2?

Looks fucking weird
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Ultima Online has been dead for a long time OP. We know and it hurts.
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>>265543587
>few hours
unfortunately, MMO's aren't games you can put a few hours into and really experience the game. They just aren't that type of game. I'd suggest putting more time into them or maybe understand that MMO's aren't your thing.
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>there will never be a megaman battle network MMO with custom navi
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>>265547254

Oh god no, it's just meant to ease the pain of coming back at the beginning of a new expansion. The issue is people came back, possibly didn't have a character at level cap and then had to go level through old content before they could hit the new stuff with their friends.

Mind, 90 isn't the 'cap', 90 is just the cap for Mists of Pandaria (current expansion), it just lets you jump right into Draenor.
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>>265547027
As >>265545449 said, most people don't want to actually socialize in MMOs anymore. People also don't want to work for gear, but that's a different issue entirely.
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>>265547243
It's actually an understandable gripe, I'm just fucking with you.

Fully customizable characters would've been fucking great.

Also a class that uses fist weapons.
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>MMORPG Thread
>no one EVER mentions Life is Feudal

You used to be a source for games like Dwarf Fortress /v/.
The hell happened man?
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>>265544573
No, it was going to be absolute pile of shit. From alpha testers manual:
>willpower is a sort of energy shield on your health bar
>you gain perks by drinking blood of specific mortals
>you can diablerize mortals and vampires alike
>diablerized vampire loses part of perks
>half of disciplines are nothing like their PnP or even Bloodlines counterpart
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>>265547316
>NetNavis will never be real
sadpepe.jpg
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>>265547429
Well I really didn't play for long, 10 hours max TBH, I'd like to play through to level 90 with people if possible, but from what I've heard there's not gonna be a tonne of people like that.
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>>265547515
>freshly released early alpha access "you can do anything, it's like rust or something" game

nice try
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>>265547217
I fucking hate you, anon.
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>>265547316
If I were to ever make something like that, I'd make it for phones and make you live the MMO.

>Your net navi is custom to your personality and random generator
>It develops your personality and likes by using your cookie data
>You get chips by scanning bar codes or trading with people
>You can battle online anywhere

The navi customization algorithm would be the hardest part.
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