Did this fall under Shadowrun returns tier. Or is it Divinity OS tier?

>>265164249
Fuck off shill

>>265164284
ok...

>>265164249
Wasteland 2: The better game than both tier

This is literally all I ever wanted in a post-apo game. Go fuck yourself bethesda

>>265164376
is it fun?

Never played fo1 or 2 how does the combat compare to something like say X-com

>>265164376
Really? All I've seen of it seems underwhelming.

shadow tier

>>265164463
>>265164465

I don't know the current opinion of /v/ on it but so far I love it. Good combat, writing is excellent and so is the story. It's just really that good. Worth a pirate at fucking least.

>>265164249
What is the opinion on shadowrun returns here?

>>265164759
/v/ fucking loves it.

Every single thread about this game since it came out has been glorious.

>>265164962
It's decent but very linear. Half baked combat and iOS graphics.

>>265164962
Current /v/ accepted kikestarter cRPG games rating:

Div:OS - 7/10
SR - 9/10
Wasteland 2 - 10/10

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>>265164249
Fuck this shit. Who wants to bro-op in Gauntlet?

>>265165021
I haven't seen many threads. Why I'm suspicious.

>>265165271
fuck off shill

>>265165378
wut

>>265165378
fuck off sawyer

>>265164962

Meh, but the the DLC, which is now getting released as a standalone game, is much better.

>>265165271
It's like 30 gbs of content(literally content and not just graphics and soundtracks), I wonder if someone has finished it yet.

>>265164463
It's hard as fuck and it isn't a push over. Gun jamming, positioning, misfires, etc. This isn't like XCOM where you can blob your way through fights.

>>265165186
how the fuck is divinity 7/10 and Shadowrun Leturns a 9/10?

What the fuck?

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>>265164249
AWW YEAH TIME FOR SOME WASTELAND 2 THREAD WHILE I PLAY WASTELAND 2

NO spoilers plsss :(( ~~

>>265165703
it's bait.

>>265165703
Div:Os is 8/10. There's a lot to be desired in that game. Shadowrun simply excels with it's writing, setting and story. It's not bait so you better deal with my opinion faggot.

>>265165946
Yeah, but the gameplay in SR is pretty meh.

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>>265164249
It's seems too straightforward to me
and there 20 books of text whenever you initiate dialog.
Also, fuck Unity3D

>>265165946
The gameplay is so shit in SR though.

>>265165992
Well, it's still overall a better game than Div:OS. While I agree that Div:OS gameplay had more variety.

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>>265165994
At least now we know your opinion has no value.

>>265165946
I'd Say Div:Os is more of a 7/10, the NPC reactions are retarded. Slaughtered that Mayor and half the town and people still kiss my ass or just ignore all the murders

I want the new Torment game.

The one that looks like planescape with modern graphics.

Release when

Is there any purpose to the gold you find in the crashed airplane other than to simply sell it?

>>265166151
I can't accept that someone would be
A. Dumb enough to write this shit and
B. Believe it

>>265166348
Next May I think.

>>265166428
In an RPG story, writing and setting has a lot power over the outcome of a game's quality. How the fuck is this incomprehensible to you, >muh gameplay retard ?

>>265166348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coWnxfSFtKk

something about the animations make me super excited.

>>265166585
>>265166625
It looks like such a GOTY game

That fucking cape. Everything looks so natural, except running upstairs but no game ever gets that right.

>>265166625
Fucking hell. I hate infinity engine from the depths of my soul. It will literally be a blunder. Same with pillars of eternity

>>265166229
Bitch if you can't make someone give you a quest without talking about it's life torrent then you might as well ditch the entire thing.
I'm not saying it should stop at Fallout3-quality writing god please no but if you need 20 books of dialog to give context, which takes as much to read as the length of a simple quest, then something is wrong.
Shit, even Shadowrun Returns pulled dialog better that Wasteland 2

>>265166601
Except SR had shittier writing than Div:OS which was fucking lighthearted.

>>265166791
>waah reading is for fags
Go home, underage.

>>265166771
I don't think you understand what a blunder is. It doesn't mean "I don't like it".

>>265166830
>being a fucking plebeian
>on 4chan's /v/ no less

There is no more discussion to be had between us.

>>265166865
Fuck off
HellMOO does dialog better than your shit Unity game

>>265166771
>literally be a blunder
>already kikestarted
Do you even know what that word means?

>>265164962
Original campaign: Funnier, Setting is more interesting to me because I live in Seattle

Dragonfall: Better characters, better story

>every enemy except for braindead zombies has crazy speed
>can't use ambush out of combat

This shit really grinds my gears.

>>265166771

Pillars will be shit for reasons other than imitating Infinity engine (namely, JES being allergic to the concept of fun).

>>265166930
I disagree, you're the fucking pleb here bub.

Go read a fucking book already you autistic SJW shit.

>>265167060
>if I deflect I will look better
No matter how hard you try. The fact you hate reading and just want to skip everything in an RPG already nullifies your entire taste. Just go to bed. You are embarrassing yourself.

DOS tier too hard for /v/
It sucks being a casual

>>265164962
hmm

>>265167212
>>every enemy except for braindead zombies has crazy speed
It wouldn't be fun if the enemy doesn't have some sort of advantage over you.

>>265166771
I wonder if it would have been better as a OTS 3rd person game like the witcher 2.

Game is fun as hell

You literally hate fun if you dislike this game

I'm glad I stuck with this game long enough to realize how great it is but god damn they are sure to put a lot of people off with this shitty Unity engine and 3d assets that looks like complete dogshit. I don't care about graphics unless they're so bad they actually deteriorate the experience.

>>265164249
How do I kill rabbits?
Playing on Ranger difficulty and my team just seem to fuck up constantly.

Feel like I'm missing something.
I just have to free aim the first shot and hope my team can sponge all the hits.

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>>265167660
>he can't even kill rabbits

>>265167212

>can't use ambush out of combat

This. Seriously, what the fuck?

Also
>can have multiple characters attack one target simultaneously
>can't do the same with multiple targets

>>265167212
>every enemy except for braindead zombies has crazy speed

AG Center is pretty horrible in this regard, but after it they don't have that much speed

>>265167754
How? Is there some special way of dealing with them or are they just guaranteed to hit you a couple of times?

Anyone have some advice on how to build your party? Don't want to completely miss something important and fuck myself.

>>265167821

I think they've had multiple targets working before, but ultimatelely scrapped it. There was that bit in the first combat video where they've did just that.

>>265167448

I'm fine with mutant rabbits, flies and even badgers speeding like crazy, but when normal people cover entire battlefield in a single turn, shit's fucked up.

>>265168154
I dunno I never played the game but your post just sounds ridiculous

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>>265164249
similar to divinity os but without being shill'd 24/7 on /v/ during it's initial release and following weeks and without being a boring snoozefest
so far it's a 8.5/10

>pic related: in the edge of the map you'll see that hidden on a valley it made me grind

>>265168184
Get a medic+surgeon.

That's all you "need" for real. The rest is you having fun.

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>>265164249
Overall I think Divinity OS would be the most solid overall. With it having fun combat, decent writing that doesnt take itself seriously and it looks really really pretty.

Wasteland 2 has great combat, really good writing but the level of polish overall isn't there as much as Divinity.

Shadowrun Returns is pretty ok, it just failed to live up to what folks expected,and is an alright game on its own terms. Dragonfall is a a really awesome expansion though.

I'd probably put it at Divinity > Wasteland 2 >>>> Shadowrun

>>265168396
Thanks.

>>265164249
Both Divinity and Wasteland were huge fucking letdowns. Alright combat, but horribly bland and boring characters and story. I mean, yeah, you gotta work hard to beat orcs witch miniguns, but come on.

>>265168485
I concur.

>>265169045
What a shitty bait.

>>265164249
its fucking amazing

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D:OS
>great gameplay
>shit plot
>fun writing
>quests are nothing to write home about, but multiple solutions supported
>becomes a slog halfway through

SR:R
>meh gameplay
>shit writing
>shit plot
>boring quests
>Dragonfall is pretty cool though

WL2
>average gameplay
>kinda okay plot
>good writing
>quests vary wildly in quality
>Rail Nomad Camp can suck my dick

I had way more fun with D:OS, but WL2 holds up well against it even with its flaws.

>>265169330
Why even bother posting if you have nothing to say?

>>265168485
>>265169328

PLEB ALERT
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OFFICIAL /v/ STAND ON THE MATTER:

Wasteland 2 >= Shadowrun: Dragonfall > Div:OS

>>265169494
That's what I was wondering when I read your post. Why even post such a shitty bait if you won't even try?

There's a backer ($1000 donor) character named "Patrick Dubman", he periodically yells "check 'em" during combat.

I presume /v/ is responsible?

>>265169658
Does it give you comfort to play off people who don't agree with you as trolls? Is it warm under that blanket?

>>265169572
> trusting /v/'s opinions

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Wait, are you telling me that a kikestarter game lived up to expectations?

>>265169718
I'm gonna flat out murder this guy when I come across him

>>265169893
>trying this hard

>>265169718
>>265169979
Stop being edgy guys.

Maybe he has parkinson.

>>265169893
Fuckers

>/v/ thinks a complex game like DivOS is worse than the flash game SRR was and the borefest WL2 is.

You are worse than bioware.

>>265169718
>There's a backer ($1000 donor) character named "Patrick Dubman", he periodically yells "check 'em" during combat.
>I presume /v/ is responsible?

It's more than that - he has a "Fancy Business Card" in his inventory, and his home contains 2 dead hookers and a chainsaw.

>>265165519
I think the PCGamer reviewer finished it, took him 50 hours, though he skipped a fair amount of sidequests.

>>265170245
BAIT
BAIT
BAIT
BAIT

DO NOT RESPOND

BAIT
BAIT
BAIT
BAIT

>>265170340
Be a good ostrich Bob.

>>265170245
You are as worse as Reddit though.

>>265169945
This meme died months ago when good kickstarter games finally started coming out. Where have you been?

>>265164249
It's pretty good. Sticks too slavishly to some Fallout and I assume Wasteland 1 mechanics (why is Brute Force a skill and not a strength check?). Fargo mentioned they wanted to implement perks and traits and it would've really helped.

>>265170264
there's no mention of this in the internets. is it really true?

So how deep is it as an RPG?

>>265164962
Original game was mediocre and forgettable. Dragonfall was much better. I really hope they're learning from their mistakes.

>>265171178
Pretty shallow. The dialogue choices are basic. The writing is nice though. Character creation is simplistic as fuck.

Anyone experiences anything where the NPCs just have no speech options anymore? I'm in desperate need of healing and I can't talk to Baum in Titan Valley.

>>265168184
Don't overlap skills (with the possible exception of field medic + surgeon). Try to get a decent int so characters can pick up 2-3 non-weapon skills. Hover over stat boxes to see what they will give you, and avoid dead zones. Like 5 to 7 int doesn't give you skill points, so 4-8-10 are the only real options. The worst stats are probably luck and charisma.

I personally like to start characters with two weapon skills, a primary and a backup that tries to compensate for the primary's disadvantages. If a weapon has limitations when enemies are crowding around them, a good secondary is something like pistols or shotguns or melee that excel at close range. Likewise, I try to have one weapon that's good at armor piercing, and one that's not. Being able to cover all weapon types across your whole party also results in always having options regardless of what ammo you get, and if a character starts the game with skill in 2 weapons they start with both weapons equipped + ammo for them. Switching from primary to secondary also doesn't cost AP, and can be a useful option instead of reloading or unjamming.

You also don't really need to max weapon skills, since all it really affects is aim. Even a very low point investment gets you like 60-70% aim, and weapon attachments can add ~20%. For example, going from level 9 to 10 in Assault Rifles only gives you 5% more aim (120% to 125%) and 1% crit but costs 8 skill points. A full set of weapon mods gives a little more chance to hit than the last 3 levels in AR combined, which is equivalent to 20 skill points. Something to consider.

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>>265164962
I liked it, it was a good mobile game
Dragonfall completely recks the base game by a long shot, tho.

>>265171646
Thanks. Good to know.

>>265170264
I never realized i wanted something like this so much

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So, are all "good" Kickstarter games "Pretty good but kinda lacking"?
>FTL
>Conquistador: Expeditions
>Shadowrun
>D:OS
>Wasteland 2
missed something?
I looks like Kickstarter is good enough to make a solid game, but not enough for a masterpiece.
Well, you gotta start somewhere I guess, FTL got free expansion, Shadowrun nice DLC, Conquistador sequel is in the works I think, pretty sure D:OS will have a sequel too. Maybe Wasteland 3 will be close to perfection?

>>265172809
Risk of Rain was off Kickstarter too

>>265172809
>Pretty good but kinda lacking
>Wasteland 2

Are you fucking blind or just trynna bait?

>>265166771

>I hate infinity engine from the depths of my soul.

So why the fuck are you even remotely interested in a Torment game?

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>not going full NUCLEAR team

>>265174003
>that fucking sombrero

I don't want to meme these memes

>>265173742
Is it good? Doesn't look like my kind of game tbh.
>>265173798
Is it 10/10, perfect, for you?

>>265173798
>Thinks Wasteland 2 doesn't have problems like every game
gg, no re

>>265174003
>Not hard-ass
I wish there was a little stealth in this game at least

>>265175176
the hard-ass is Ocelot

>>265166771
It's not an infinity engine game, tho

The combat will be turn-based, for one. No RTwP clusterfuck here.

I'm waiting patiently to play all of these.

>>265169572
fuck off

Is there a vendor in Silo 7? I've finished Damota but I have zero medkits and the doctor in the Titan Temple is bugged and wont talk to me.

>>265171343
>Character creation is simplistic as fuck

Is this nigga for real

>>265164249
Divinity OS > Shadowrun: Dragonfall > Wasteland 2 > Shadowrun: Dead Man's Switch

>>265164249
Somewhere in between, It's not as bad as Shadowrun but nowhere near as good as Divinity.

The graphics are quite arse, the combat and attribute system are unbalanced as fuck but that doesn't matter because combat is too easy and the story is not engaging at all.

It's still better than the abomination Shadowrun was though, god that game sucked ass.

Too bad they didn't all turn out as brilliant and fun as Divinity.

>>265172809
No game is perfect. And KS was never about "amazing masterpieces".. It just gave a chance to genres people thought were over.

And fuck yeah it succeeded. This whole RPG renniasance we're having is due to KS.

Also I had SHITLOADS of fun with DivOS and Volgarr

>>265165946
Your opinion is shit.

The only thing I don't like are the fucking percentages, which are basically treating you like a retard. There's obviously tons of hidden modifiers behind this shit so why even give me a high fucking number like 93% success 1% critical failure and then have me critical fail twice. It's so fucking dumb.

>D:OS
>kickstarter
sure they got some eurobucks from it, but it was nowhere near enough to fund the whole project. They already had a lot of stuff done with the game, and they mentioned private investors.

>>265168485
>Shadowrun Returns is pretty ok, it just failed to live up to what folks expected

It failed to deliver on what they promised you dirty rotten fucking apologist.

E:C > WL2 > D:OS > SR

>>265177372
I honestly don't mind KS being a kick"finisher" if it means an okay game turns into a really great one.

>>265164249
It definitely leans more towards DOS. Although people tend to forget that game wasn't really made thanks to KS money, it was only further polished thanks to it.

>>265177116
>being this retarded
1% does not equal 0%, you dumb chucklefuck.

>>265169479
Good opinion. Good taste. Good post.

Except for Dragonfall, it is not cool. The designs are cool but the writing is ripe with SJW shit.

>>265169572
Bad opinion, Bad taste. Bad post.

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>all this turn-based action

if anything it will make playing a rtwp game a refreshing change of pace

>>265171646
Learn to position your team. specializing in more than one weapon skill is retarded. Make two close range and two long range or rely on NPC hires.

>>265172809
Shadowrun was not pretty good and FTL is not lacking at all.

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I've enjoyed all 3.

Is that really controversial?

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>>265169479
Numenera will be the real test. It ain't easy taking over Torment's mantle.

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Wait, people like Shadowrun? I pirated it when it came out and i, along with most people in threads here, thought it was a piece of shit. Too short, few skills and with lacking combat plus a shitty obvious story to wrap the shit package.

Or did some Ultra version/DLC/Directors cut "fix" all that, as if that makes the shit at release acceptable.

>>265178289
>liking more than one thing
Get the fuck out

>>265169572
Epic meme

>>265178343

The dragon campaign is a lot better, miles so, it fixed a few problems too.

Its not perfect and could be a lot better, but it captures the Shadowrun setting perfectly and thats good enough for me.

>>265178343
Did you play dragonfall?

>>265176792
Build options are limited, stats and skills are simplistic. Look at DOS. That had too much room for experimenting.

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>>265164249
>game requires from you to first thing create a new party from scratch

Where did that shit go? It used to be a standard.

>>265177736
No, he's right. The numbers are fucked. A gun with a 7% chance to jam will easily jam 20 to 30 times per 100 hots fired.

It's fucking unreal. Unless you get it under 5% with a weapon modification, most guns are unreliable to the point of being unusable.

Are those ugly little statues that give you skill-points the ones that retards spent 5000$ dollar on?
Like the one of the buff guy in the wreckers camp.

>>265178343
It is a piece of shit and most people on release agreed but there's quite a few apologists for that fucking turd. I guess it's because the setting is so popular. I like the setting too but a shit game is a shit game and Shadowrun was a shit game through and through.

Disarmed the nuke. Temple of Titan is fucked. Did I goof?

>>265178448
>>265178476

Dragonfall is full of feminsim and MUH ORC NIGGER DIN DO NUFFINS bullshit. The character designs look a bit better and the music isn't as shit but the writing is so far left it hurts.

But I guess it's fitting as it's set in Berlin, it's not just the characters though, it's in the narrative too.

>>265179048
I stopped reading at your first sentence. Go back to /pol/.

>>265177794
>The designs are cool but the writing is ripe with SJW shit.

u wot m8

I have no idea why people hate on the original Shadowrun that much but praise Wasteland. At least Shadowrun had some variety, good music and fun characters.

Wasteland has none of that shit while not excelling in any other area either.

>>265179048
>Dragonfall is full of feminsim and MUH ORC NIGGER DIN DO NUFFINS bullshit.

Did we play the same fucking game? I recall the game having a killer AI, Aztechnology Blood Mages (And me punking them) and a big fucking dragon.

The fuck does feminism have to do with anything?

Go back to /pol/

>>265166625
>that thick american accent

>>265178289
Nah, you a cool guy.

>>265179048
>Dragonfall is full of feminsim and MUH ORC NIGGER DIN DO NUFFINS bullshit.

Lmao what?

>>265178578
Keep in mind the "RPG"s we had to deal with until not as long as 3 years ago.

WL2, DivOS are an amazing return to form.

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>>265179048

Are you assblasted over Humanis policlub or what?

Is it playable on a laptop?

>>265179705
it will make your laptop explode

>>265178132
Melee enemies have pretty much just ignored my close range NPCs. They'll literally run 15 tiles past my front line and still be able to take a swing at my sniper or medic when they get there. It quickly became a bitch to have to move my sniper a couple spaces every turn just to be able to shoot, and then anything that's not dead huddles up around them again and I repeat the process. I haven't found many problems with ranged enemies and positioning pays off there, but melee and animals tend to have an absurd range of movement and amount of AP. I think there's also a bug where enemies out of your field of vision don't calculate their movement AP correctly, because I've seen them come off screen and go craaaaazy far in a single turn.

>>265165227
does the multiplayer work on pirated copies?
I want to give it a try but it's pretty expensive

>>265179260
>>265179379
>>265179567

I guess you didn't bother exploring the backstories of your squad.

Eiger is like a feminist's wet dream and there's instances where you can do nothing but either agree with her bullshit, fucking apologize or say nothing. You literally can not even disagree with that crazy bitch, not even politely and forget about telling her to fuck off and shove it, because there isn't a dialog option to do so.

It's like reading a web comic where the self insert destroys a strawman of their opposition in devastating fashion because they of course write both parties.

I don't know about the rest of the game because that pissed me off so much I stopped playing.

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>>265180862
>this tinfoil hat level of bullshit

Yeah so she's a veteran with strong opinions and you're earning her trust by proving yourself as the newblood.

It doesn't even matter that she's female except for one dialogue where someone made a joke on it and got hit. She's not even human anyway, first and foremost she's a battle-hardened soldier. She could have been a male character and it would have been the exact same character arc.

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>>265180862
>I don't know about the rest of the game because that pissed me off so much I stopped playing.
This is getting ridiculous

>>265164249
In between.

>>265182952

It triggered him, anon.

Check your privileged.

>>265182952
Didn't even read that sentence, oh lord.

>>265164962
The original game I'd rate 6/10, the addon was easily 7/10 - definitely worth playing if you enjoy RPGs.

It has flaws but I love it. The bugs are annoying though and melee enemies running half the map and still swinging is a tad retarded.

I'm loving the game so far. My crew is around lvl 7. Just cleared the ag center.
What am I in for /v/?
I'm having a good ole time

>>265186851
prepare to have more of it then