So, for people who have actually played his game... How is Roy?

Roy is our boy.

He is one of the weakest lords across the games. Story wise he is alright.

Fire Emblem has a character class known as Thieves.
Thieves are generally not combat viable. They can dodge pretty well, but not enough to get around their shitty HP and defense and magic resistance.
Getting hit generally oneshots a thief.

There have been thieves in Fire Emblem more combat viable than Roy.

Why do you ask questions you already know the answer?
Roy is pretty generic. He's not unsympathetic, but he's noone who stands out either. He isn't a badass, every other character is a badass and he rather seems like some kid who just happened to be the leader of an army.

His stats are shit and he is a weak unit. He only gets good after promotion, but he literally promotes on the second to last chapter and is a huge annoyance that you can't even use for the rest of the game and that you constantly need to protect and watch out that he doesn't accidentally die.

Every Fire Emblem protagonist is the same personality wise. As in none of them have one.

>>264870876
I was just wondering if his popularity is basically due to Melee.

I wonder if Japan likes him less than the West does since they had exposure to way more Fire Emblem Lords.

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>>264870462
>Character
Pretty blank actually. Nothing much to say. He's quite courageous but he's still young and a little bit retarded.
>Strength
Piece of shit. He has quite balanced stats so he'll end up average everywhere (which isn't really great). Furthermore, his promotion (characters in FE have 2 tiers, 3 in Radiant Dawn but whatever, and promoting is going from one tier to another) happens fucking late, so he'll be at a very low level until 85% of the game (everybody else will be promoted and at a great level, and he'll be lagging behind). You'll have to baby him with stronger units after his promotion to make him gain some levels, and even there, he'll not be that great.
He's really worthless.

>>264871182
FE7's lords promoted late also.
Hell same number of chapters remaining.

>>264871010

Well it's not like the FE Lords before Roy were much better. Sure there was Sigurd, but other than that you are in the NES era and there people really didn't care about the personality of the characters.

Every Lord past Roy is a major step up from him though. Even Eliwood is better than him

>>264871182

ROY IS BEST AND MOST COURAGEOUS

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>best lord will never be in a smash game

Life is suffering

>>264871306
Only the main Lord, actually you can start promoting your other lords quite early. Eliwood is also a piece of shit because of that (Hector manages to be great despite the late promotion in his scenario because he has awesome stats and can catch up his late), but he still has an easy chapter to grind some levels right after his promotion. Roy has nothing and you have to baby him.

>>264871719

He was only the tertiary main character in his own game anyway. Fucking Eliwood would get in over Hector

>>264871010
>I was just wondering if his popularity is basically due to Melee.

Pretty much Melee has sold more than 20 times Binding Blade(Roy's Fire Emblem) did.

>>264871719
But how would they manage Sigurd's horse?

>>264871719
But, anon, Ike is already in 2 smash games.

>>264871719

Ike's already in though

Weak shit like his fucking dad.

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>>264871719
True but why would they put Alm in Smash?

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>>264872006

>>264870462
>Strength
I dunno, but I actually liked him. For me he had pretty damn solid growths, and after promotion he crushed everything in his path with an A support from Lilina, beat Zephiel in one turn. He isn't BAD per se, just inconvenient in that he's basically a sitting duck for most of the game after he reaches lvl 20.
>Character
>>264870989

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>>264872085
>
>>264871719
>Dies
>Best lord
Nah.

I let Fir kill zephiel

>>264871010
>popularity due to Melee

Pretty much. He's a bland weak dude in his own game, unfortunately.

>>264870462
Character wise, he's very headstrong and courageous, going out of his way to help anyone in trouble. He's also one of the more strategic lords, he tends to use his head a lot but he's still a kid and pretty god dam naive. He's really a love or hate character i'm of the love variety

Stremgth wise, he's got pretty decent growths but he's cursed by the developers with shitty bases and the dumbest fucking promotion time. If you emulate, there are patches that change when he promotes but it doesn't change the fact that they originally gave him the horrid promote time

>>264872126

It really sucked how a low constitution would make some units inherently shit. Female units were always shittier than male units because of that.
And Roy was forever shit in all eternity

>>264872246

I liked how in Awakening they made Alm out to be very different from the other main lords, since they characterised him as even more vicious than Hector.

>>264871719
Hector dies like a bitch in FE6 though

>>264870462
his caps are at 25 across the board. He's sub par in terms of fire emblem characters

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>>264872816
>Female units were always shittier than male units because of that.

There were also different caps.
>"Hey look, my strength cap is shittier, but don't worry, I have a better res cap, even if I'll never reach it because of my poor growths"

>>264872875
All you really do is go around fucking everybody's shit up for the entire game and he isn't some pompous noble, it fits him pretty well
>how am I supposed to compassionately stab somebody?

>>264871521
>Eliwood is better
>my sides
but it's true

>everyone wants roy and lyn because muh melee and muh waifu
>ephraim has a tiny fanbase
PM doesn't help

>>264873770
Ephraim is basically the most request fucking character besides Hector because 'm-muh sword reps'

It's funny how people think Marth is all prissy when in reality, Roy's the one that has to be spoiled and treated delicately, always having to be with someone else.

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>>264873939

>>264873908
Unfortunately, it wasn't Baby's First Fire Emblem and people were too busy fapping to Lyn to care.
Spears are cool. They being more variety than axes too.

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Reminder that Sakurai was going to put Leif in Melee at first but IS showed him Roy and he decided to use him instead.

>>264873939
>Roy's the one that has to be spoiled and treated delicately, always having to be with someone else.
what? Pretty sure he was just trained by cecilia to be a decent tactician at war, not spoiled

>>264874051
>Unfortunately, it wasn't Baby's First Fire Emblem

Ironic, cause it was designed to be

>>264874104
Leif was great only in FE4 (and after promoting), anyway.

>>264874104
Thracia had the significance of being the last official Super Famicom game. Roy's just an ad.

>>264874147
I mean gameplay wise. You can't just let him fight like the others. He has to be treated like the royalty he is, surrounded by guards and not allowed to fight an enemy alone.

>>264874159
That explains Seth. Guy's a beast.

>>264874531
i guess if you get a bad roy. Most roys i get can handle a lot of heat due to decent speed and defense

>>264874326

He's pretty good in Thracia 776 since with support bonuses(especially Nanna's) and Charisma he can basically hold any choke point and evade almost everything easily.

>>264874654
And yet they still spend most of the game at level 20 unable to promote and gradually falling behind the eventual promoted enemies, needing to be kept out of combat to avoid exp leeching

>>264874887
which is totally the developers fault. Whoever thought he should promote with only 3-4 chapters left deserves to be fired

>>264874634

Like any other character in FE8

>>264874654
I don't want decent, I want above-average. Look at Ike, that's a badass right there

>>264875104
Everything wrong with any character is the creator's fault. The character can still be hated because of it.

>>264875198
Even the Jeigan's amazing. Feels good to be good.

>>264875408
That's because he's an Oifey, not a Jeigan

>>264875293

Ike's not above average. Ike's a rapetrain that can solo his game on pretty much any difficulty

>>264875538
WHY CAN'T ROY DO THAT SHIT

>>264870462
Roy is the shittiest unit in any FE game, both in terms of gameplay and plot.

First of all, he's the de-factor shittiest lord out of any FE game, ever. Even FE1 Marth, who is notoriously bad, manages to trump Roy in every single stat except one. He's such a shit unit that you're almost required to use the OP plot weapons with any other character except him.

In terms of story, however, he manages to fall even shorter. He's forced to lead an army because literally every single competent person on your side is either dead or dying. He's directly responsible for the death of like four different allied lords including Hector because he felt the need to waste time doing fuckall somewhere else, contradicting the sense of urgency he himself places on the party. He canonically loses three different battles in his own game, and relies on deus ex machina to save himself from dying.

roy a shit

>>264874654
>i guess if you get a bad roy. Most roys i get can handle a lot of heat due to decent speed and defense

Most Roys I get are like this (the skill stat is a fucking miracle though, but it's almost irrelevant in this game for a sword user).
Shit strength (the poor offense of swords doesn't help) and will struggle to double attack something.
I guess you're really lucky.

>>264875605
because that wouldnt be fun?

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>>264875636
Fuck, totally forgot the pic.
My Roys are like this (I've done 3 or 4 playthroughs)

>>264875738

Then why is PoR so much more fun than FE6?

>>264875860

The maps aren't so huge that you spend most of your time moving units rather than fighting.

>>264875860
well, i have yet to play PoR but I like FE6 because of how unforgiving it is. Lots of meh or odd growths and stupid hard chapters. It's really just preference to be honest and i can see why people wouldnt like it why are all the ike games so expensive ;_;

>>264876128

Emulate it.

>>264876228
muh toaster

I remember that one gaiden chapter in the poison cave where you could only bring like 5 units and Roy had to be one of them.

I had to split everyone up to get all the treasure, so I had Roy go on a solo rampage with the thunder sword. That was one of the most intense moments in FE6 for me, and I grew to respect Roy for staying alive the whole time.

>>264876297
mod your Wii

Why did it take IS until FE:A to realize that forced lategame promotions are a terrible thing?

>>264870876

This guy has the right of it.

If Roy promoted a couple of chapters earlier, he'd be okay tier instead of borderline garbage.

He's even outclassed by Eliwood, of all people.

>>264875621
>FE1 Marth
>Bad

Statboosters are extremely overpowered (they give like +5 or +4) and everyone has 20 caps. And Marth has access to 3 overpowered swords.

>>264876601
Why did IS have to remove good features in old games in Awakening when adding good features of its own?

>>264876690
I recall a hack where he promotes after the Aureola chapter, so he isn't utter shit in Sacae and/or Ilia.

>>264876690
Why wouldn't he be outclassed by his dad? Sure he's a bit old but Eliwood was king.

>>264876829
i am certain that all game companies are afraid of making a game that is too good, for fear that they would never be able to sell any copies of the sequels to that game since it was already perfect

>>264876601

muh storyline

Ike's promotion is pretty much perfect though. He promotes at exactly the right time and his promotion is pretty cool too

>>264876829
>Why did IS have to remove good features in old games in Awakening when adding good features of its own?

They didn't, practically every feature that has remained(and I emphasize "remained", not implemented) in Awakening has typically been for the better.

>>264872815
Links to such patches?

>>264876829

You mean shit like Constitution and weapon weight? Probably because
>>264872816

>>264876601
Celice in FE4 could promote whenever he wants to when reaches level 20.

>>264877094
http://www.mediafire.com/?mle7gutvbwqtciq

changes his promote to 16x

>>264876690
I don't recall eliwood being that shit

>>264876601
Sacred Stones made it well, though. You get the promotion items at a reasonable time, and you're free to use them or not, regardless of the level.
I still like the idea of having an unique promotion item for Lords, not the generic thing.

>>264870989
Hector, Michaiah, Ike, and Erika (being a gullible idiot is a personality) have personalities

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Lilina x Gonzales OTP

>>264877507

Eliwood is mostly shit because he promotes late and because he can't hold his own fucking weapon without getting doubled by everything.
Also because Hector usually stands besides him and shows off his muscles making Eliwood look worse than he actually is

>>264877715

>Micaiah
>personality

Roy is generally accepted as the worst main character in the series. In terms of usefulness, he's easily the weakest, and in terms of character, he's nothing special.

>>264877715
>ike
>personality

Being a clueless self-insert character who takes neutral and friendly stances on all touchy issues and only exists so other characters have an excuse to explain said touchy issues to the player is having a personality?

Face it, the only reasons people like Ike is because hes a strong as fuck unit and he fights for his friends XD. He's not much better than Roy in terms of character or personality.

>>264877386
Do i apply this to a translated rom or a clean rom? It only changes the promote time right?

>>264878186
he's really brash, especially about class dichotomy/racism/laguz issues

>>264878186
>fights for his friends XD

smashfag pls go
Ike literally fights for money

>>264871921
>>264871969

Ike is shit. Sure, he has better stats - but he's fucking boring.

>>264878186
>>264878465

Oh look, it's the Micaiahfag again

>>264877386
>http://www.mediafire.com/?mle7gutvbwqtciq
Not him but thanks a bunch, I'm gonna save this for my next playthrough.
And same question as >>264878195
How does it work with translations? Is the translation included in the patch so I have to apply it to a moonrune file?

>>264878465
someone talk some sense into this girl, she's losing it

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>>264875768

>>264875530
>>264875408

I feel like an idiot. Me and my best bro ignored all prepromotes in 4. We didn't really think about what the different level-up structure implied.

>>264878336
And Roy is really courageous, especially because he grows into and accepts his position as a leader.

Ike is still so much better, right?

>>264878379
The point is that brawlfags blindly love Ike just like meleefags blindly loved Roy even though they're both nothing special. Anyone claiming more of them both is just proving they've never played a Fire Emblem game or are retarded.

>>264870873
>Thieves are generally not combat viable.
Do you even fire emblem? The only class that isn't combat viable is the FE1 healer. Everything else is just a question of how hard you want to overkill everything in the lategame.

Anyway, thieves are pretty damn strong in the GBA FE games. Blades easily make up for their lack of strength, and they have more than enough extra speed and skill to make up for the high weight of the weapon.

>>264879073

Bullshit. Ike has always been my favorite Lord and I played all FEs except the NES ones

>>264879034
Hope you didn't ignored Sigurd too.

>>264879073
Except Ike's actually a good fucking unit from good games

Yes, gameS

>>264878564
>>264878620

Micaiahfag? Nigger, I fucking hate FE10. The telius games are kind of meh, though 9 was solid.

The only cool lords in the series are Sigurd, Hector, Master Lord Leaf (IE 4), Ephraim and Lyn.

>>264879073
ike also has the coming-of-age story with his father dying too, thanks for pointing that out although rather indirectly

and then 3 years later he appears in RD and tells a god to pray to whatever the gods worship

>>264879116
This.
Roy is even worse than a thief.

>>264879294

Nah, we used Sigurd bcause we loved him. We got piss drunk the night Sigurd died and spoke a tribute to him.

>>264879378

>like Sigurd, Hector and Ephraim
>doesn't like Ike

Yeah sure Micaiahfag. You're just spouting the popular opinions.
Tell me how Hector and Ephraim are any different than Ike?

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>>264879427
Most units in 6 were.

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>>264874104
This pisses me off so much. Leif has one of the cooler backstories of any of the lords and the fact that he becomes a master knight in FE4 means he could have a diverse moveset that shows off all the different weapon types in Fire Emblem, instead of just having blue haired sworsdman.
Robin seems really cool at least.

>>264879653

Also noone knows who Leif is. Not even most FE fans.
Imagine how popular he would've been if he was in smash

Probably the weakest lord in the series. Pales in comparison to Eliwood and hector from his game and its prequel.

Also considered in many large fan polls to be the worst lord in the series.

Only smash babies like him

>>264877020

Eh, if you use Ike heavily he has a few levels in each game where he basically needs to sit on his ass and do nothing because he's level 20. It's annoying.

>>264879378
i wasn't implying you like micaiah, nobody is that low, i was just attempting to make a joke about how micaiah and the daein army were opposed to ike and the laguz alliance for no real reason, besides muh blood pact which the oil tactic was absolutely not necessary to avoid

>>264879761
Most units in FE6 have bad growths anyway.
FE7 spoiled people by having generally amazing growths for all units.

>>264879779

But even level 20 Ike can wreck shit in his final chapters before he promotes. It only hurts because he will be a EXP sponge for a time.
On the final part of the chapter before he promotes he doesn't fight anyway because he carries Leanne

>>264870462
Roy is fucking horrible.

The fact that there are people who want him back in Smash makes me want to vomit.

>>264879653

Leif was going to be a Marth clone either way though.

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>>264870462
don't believe their lies

>>264878618
>>264878195
you can patch it to a translated rom, yes

>>264881753

That reminds me, I really wish I got to play Link Arena with someone.

So when a FE MC is complete, or at least relative dogshit compared to other units like Roy and Lyn are, is that intentional, or a fuckup on IS' part?

>>264871521
You do know that Eliwood is actually pretty good on any mode but his own right?

>>264883363
There are four kinds of lords

The OP ones
The ones that don't get OP until the tail end
The okay ones that get a bad rap
And the shitty ones like Roy who can't even offer utility like Rescue or staffbotting.

>>264881753
And then you forget to mention that for 85-90% of the game, he's stuck at the left most picture and to get the middle and right most picture you have to baby the fuck out of him even though it isn't worth it since there are literally 3 chapters left in the game.

Roy is only good if you use the hack that lets him promote earlier.

>>264883994
What?

>>264881219
At least they'd have more reason to keep him around and separate him.

Or at least he wouldn't go down as a really bad mark like Roy, who was included in Smash before his game was even out, having been featured in no other game before, and turns out he's garbage in every way with no significance to him.

I'd much rather have the main character of the last Super Famicom game ever released in.

>>264880118

The only reason I want him back is because as bad as he was in Melee, he felt really good. That dash dance, that short hop, that fast falling speed. I kind of wish Lucina took some notes from him because I just don't enjoy playing Marth at all.

>>264884840
He has way better gains than Lyn does from promotion, along with a better extra weapon type.

She also can't even say that she doubles more at that point because 14 effective speed is enough to double 90% of FE7 on every mode.

Eliwood is also capable of OHKOing the final boss if you didn't bring Luna.

>>264884914

That's fine, I'm mostly just tired of people talking about how cool he would be and he'd have all these different weapons being a Master Lord, but at the same time he was only considered for being in as a clone.

>>264870462
In the actual game, he is a mediocre character. He's amoungst the weakest lords in all of the Fire Emblem series.

He can't double fighters on the first chapter on normal mode, and that's saying sometthing.


He wouldn't be very requested if FE6 came out in the US and Japan and if his game came out before Melee.

>>264885447
>roy bases
>5 str
>5 skill
>7 speed
y-you too game

I hate that people treat Eliwood so poorly. Like he's as interesting as Marth or Celice at least, and FE6 and 7 generally just show him in a decent enough light. Being best buds with Hector and still being able to beat him half the time in bouts, the snazzy rapier stabbing fighting style (granted not as cool as Eirika's, but that crit pose + sword shine is too good), the drastic animation and fighting style change with Durandal where he's using a Guts style greatsword with ease...

And then come FE6, he's one of the only RPG fathers I've seen survive plot illness and not get murdered in the middle of a war on top of that. Like by the end, he's alive and well.

>>264870873
cant u combat class change him to something non shit?

>>264885896

Nope that's before they added class changing to the series so you're stuck with Roy being bad.

>>264885896
Nope.

He can't even promote until basically the very end of the game.

So he's stuck being weak, draining EXP because he can't level up anymore, and his death means instant game over in a game where enemy reinforcements can instantly move the turn they spawn in on.

Is Ike supposed to be based off of Guts or something?

also what game is Ike in?

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>>264885447

I wouldn't hold being unable to double fighters on the first chapter against him. A decent number of good characters can't do it, like this guy. The late promotion really ruins him. Without it he'd still be worse than Dieck and Rutger, but instead of being worst lord everyone hates him, he'd at least be okay enough lord, even if he's boring.

>>264886272
Path of Radiance (Gamecube) and Radiant Dawn (Wii)

>>264886272
No.

Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance for Gamecube and Radiant Dawn for Wii.

Why does Marth look so feminine?

He looks like some pussy fucc boi.

>>264886670
Marth is only feminine in smash bros

for some reason they gave him the personality of a vain, showboating femboy when he's anything but in his own game

>>264886831
Because he sure was masculinein FE1 without any pants.

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>>264886831

At least he looks a lot better in Smash 4. I know he always looked kinda girly, but he looks like an extreme faggot in Brawl for some reason.

The Sword of Seals is the coolest weapon in Fire Emblem.

Roy himself isn't that great, but he gets the Sword of Seals so the other lords can eat a dick.

>>264887115
Yeah I'm happy they went with his FE12 version. When I saw him my first thought was that he finally looks like a guy now. Not a manly man, but not the faggot that he was in Brawl.

>>264887502
Best weapon is Urvan

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>>264873291
Tell me she's shit.

>She's on the Dawn Brigade
So are Edward and Nolan, and they're fucking awesome

>She's in the same game as Gatrie
He also has a lower speed cap than Meg.

>>264887502
sucks that he doesn't get any cool moves in smash since he wields the sword of seals. Doesn't it shoot fucking fireballs? why couldnt they incorporate that?

>>264887831

She's shit.

>can't double anything in part 3 unless she's a Marshall
>gets crapped on by Tigers on the first chapter you get her on Hard Mode because they double her
>mediocre strength and defense growths
>doesn't reach the magical 34 speed cap
>doesn't have utility like staves

>>264887831
she has the growths of a pegasus knight and she's a general

every dawn brigade character that isn't Eddie or Nolan is fucking awful. I hated that I was forced to bring Sothe into the endgame even though Volke is exponentially better than he is

>>264888094
Because the game wasn't out yet and he was supposed to be a clone. The fire effect is all he gets.

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>>264870462
Roy's an okay kid. Like others have said, he can't promote until literally the last chapter of the game, so he'll end up becoming an unfortunate hindrance.
He's incredibly badass in the "Fire Emblem: Hasha no Tsurugi" manga, though.

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>>264887502
Sword of Seals isn't that impressive at all. It can shoot fireballs and looks like a regular sword, that's pretty much it.

Durandal and Armads were way cooler for how outrageously big they were, yet could be swung really fast because magic.

And Eckesachs is just leagues ahead of SoS. Just look at that shit.

>>264888094
It can ignite and basically detonate things from a space away.

They kind of incorporated it in his neutral B by having it explode and hurt him if you fully charge it but that's a bit dumb.

>>264887594

He was supposed to look like his FE11 and FE12 incarnation in Brawl but just as Intelligent Systems finished Shadow Dragon it was too late and Sakurai had popped by to show his Brawl design to them.

>>264888627
uh, all he did was spin. He sure showed roy with his ballerina act

>>264888285
Every Dawn Brigade character has potential to be awesome.

http://lparchive.org/Fire-Emblem-Radiant-Dawn/

This guy took fucking Fiona, the worst paladin in the game, into endgame. He also spent most of 4-4 training Vika to prove how awesome she is as well.

I wish Leif had been chosen because I feel like he could have been more different from Marth, with his game already being released and all. Light Sword had potential.

>>264888620
Isn't that the manga where about some OC donut steal instead of Roy?

>>264888909
We're talking weapons, not the people using them.

>>264889002

Almost every character has potential, it's just that characters like Meg and Fiona can't be used properly conventionally without special arrangement to give them a load of kills.

>>264889169
since that's the only way we've seem it used, so yeah, it does count. All i see is that it has lightning properties and can turn into a big sword that requires you to spin real fast to use it

>>264887115
It helps there's an actual girl to make him look a bit more masculine.

>>264870462
>personality

I've played Roy's game twice and I couldn't tell you a single fucking thing about Roy.

The other GBA game lords? Ike, Micaiah, Chrom, Lucina, Robin? I could tell you lots about them. Even Seliph and Leif had a little going on.

Roy just seemed to kind of exist for important characters to speak plot at. Like some kind of Chinese bootleg Bollywood ripoff NES Marth.

I'm not gonna talk about him as a unit, that's just preaching to the choir.

>>264879653
>Robin seems really cool at least.
Ech. Robin is such a gross, "chosen one", cardboard.

Apparently it's so fucking hard to make a charming mysterious hero without making him a genius that everyone loves instantly instead of gradually.

>>264889963
>it's so fucking hard to make a charming mysterious hero without making him a genius that everyone loves instantly

That's the GBA tactician. Pretty much all of Robin's supports are him endearing himself personally to someone.

>>264890367
Wait, wasn't the GBA tactician magic?

I recall like only the Lords could see him.

>>264890465
Nah, Florina has a scene with him/her. He definitely exists, everybody just kind of forgets he's there half the time but everybody loves him anyway.

>>264870462
Storywise he's just Marth again. 6 in a lot of ways felt like it was trying to get "back to basics" after the Jugdral games. Statwise... he's Marth again, so nothing really amazing. You'll have many much better units.

The game itself is fun though, and for all you casuals who still haven't learned Moon some faggots made a translation patch, so your excuse there is gone.

>>264890672
I really want to play some classic Fire Emblem...

Only problem is, even Sacred Stones gives me trouble.

>>264889884

He seems to want to take girls home a lot. I swear, half of his A supports with the girls are "You wanna go home with me?"

>>264890465
>>264890581
Sain hits on the protag if it's a chick.

>>264890764
If 8's giving you trouble, the first six will tear your asshole wide open. 6 is probably the easiest of them, and I hope you're ready for Dragon Knight reinforcements that move on the turn they spawn.

>>264890367
I don't remember all the details with the gba tact, I remember thinking "Wow all these people probably don't actually care about him at all". Except Lyn, of course.

I just don't like Robin as a character.
I want FEA2 to have a PC like FE11. I just really liked Kris.

>>264890970
Well, not trouble, really, I mean I've beaten the first few chapters without losing anyone, it was just really stressful.

>>264891095
Stressful how?

>>264891060
Chris was 12, not 11. And yeah, s/he was better IMO because they weren't "oh shit the chosen one who everything revolves on" as much as just "history forgot this person, but they were Marth's closest confidante and strongest guardian/ally."

>>264891143
I felt like I barely scrapped by, relying too much on my stronger characters leaving my weaker characters unable to level up, and had tons of close calls. It was more stressful than fun, really...

And that's ignoring the fact that Sacred Stones gives you infinite EXP once the game introduces the random encounter enemies, so I don't know how I could handle a "real" Fire Emblem.

>>264891560
When you say stronger characters, do you mean ones that just had better stats already, or prepromotes like... Zet? I think that was the Jeigan of 8. Anyway, you definitely need to level up the lower characters, but there's a time and place for the prepromotes, be it as shields or village runners or in the case of the GBA games rescuers.

>>264891956
Seth is his name in the NA version, and no, I realize you're not suppose to rely on him too much.

Mainly been using that one younger cavalier, um, the blonde dude? And Garcia and Myrmidon guy, who seem pretty strong already, too much.

>>264892304
Ah, nothing wrong with relying on them, although I tend to end up phasing out Garcia for his son, Ross, simply because of the extra levels as a Trainee Fighter tending to lead to him having better Skill and Speed, plus being able to take him down the path to Berserker for the higher crit bonus. Best thing I can recommend is learning to use the guys who are already tough to control the field and lure in enemies where your weaker/newer recruits can safely finish them off to gain levels. This is especially important for buffing up your Pegasus Knights and your Trainees, which depending on your playstyle will likely be key.

>Roy in Melee
>Marth clone with interesting moveset changes that really set him apart
>Gets spun-off into an entirely new character's moveset (Ike)
>Character himself isn't that interesting, but is a favourite of SSB fans

>Lucina in SSB4
>Marth clone with an almost identical moveset
>Was going to be a costume swap for Marth
>Will probably be included in SSB5, should it ever happen
>Not even a Lord

>>264894834
>Not even a Lord

She is, just not a lead Lord. She's still a Rapier Lord though.

>>264894834
>Roy
>spun off into Ike's moves
you're really reaching there
like, reaching into another dimension where Ike plays like Roy

and his moveset changes hardly classify as interesting when he's a complete clone of Marth+some fire animations

>>264873030
His axe is cursed

>>264895606
they needed a plot device to retroactively explain how he could possibly be defeated

>>264894834

I honestly don't mind Lucina being a Marth clone, but she's the samiest clone I've ever seen. Even Dr. Mario in Melee has more differences.

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>flying around on a fucking griffon
>chopping niggas up with an axe
This class better return in future games.

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>first 15 chapters of FE6
This is fun, couple bullshit moments but still alright

>last 15 chapters of FE6
Fuck this game

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>>264896027
>but she's the samiest clone I've ever seen

>>264895016
Yeah, I meant to say main Lord.

I just think it was a shit choice by Sakurai to even include her as a costume swap. Meanwhile Samus doesn't have a Super/Prime suit.

>>264895528
Where did I imply they play alike? It's obvious Melee Roy was the inspiration of Brawl Ike.

>he's a complete clone of Marth+some fire animations
That's why Sakurai included him in the first place. We would have gotten Leaf otherwise. And he's about as different as some of the other clones in Melee, and still more interesting than Lucina.

>>264896248
What's wrong with the latter half?

>>264896128
It really should and it should be integral to the plot too.

Wyvern riders are so fucking common, why not Majestic griffons? Fuck Pegasi

>>264896293

Even Dark Pit has more differences with the Electroshock Arm sending people at a different angle and different final smash. Lucina's lack of a tipper doesn't really change anything.

>>264896382
Actually, Ike was going to playable along with Roy.

>>264894834
>Marth clone with interesting moveset changes that really set him apart

like what

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>>264896128

>>264896382
Where is the inspiration for Ike? The fire? Because that's a thing that Ike actually does in his games, it wasn't inspired by Melee Roy.

>>264896735
Does Roy actually use fire in his own game?

I always thought that was added to Melee compliment Marth well since his move-set sort of gave a "water" vibe.

>>264897064
Yeah. He's got the fire affinity.

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>>264897064

Yes, but it's only because of his sword.

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>>264896392
Becomes really hard. Reinforcements for 20 turns, random sages with boltings, killing edges

Reinforcements wouldnt be nearly as bad if they didnt attack you right when they spawn

>>264897794
Hm, never really bothered me. If anything 7 and 8 were too easy because they didn't do stuff like that.

>>264889103
Yes, unfortunately.

>>264897901

The reinforcements are probably the only thing that's really bad if you ask me. It's already harder than 7 and 8 because enemies actually have stats instead of being weaklings send to the slaughterhouse.

>>264898138
I liked the reinforcements because it kept me on my toes and forced me to be wary of forts. Even then the dialogue usually clues you in to expect shit.

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>>264898286

It's less of the reinforcements themselves and more of where they appear. This chapter was the absolute worst because you have no idea where they'll come from unless you look it up and you have to beat it in 30 turns to get the good end.

>>264898649
Fuck that was a good stage. Only pisser was me thinking there was some way to recruit Geil and wasting so much time trying different shit to get him.

>>264899085
Most FEs pull that htough

>>264899315
Yeah, there's usually a guy who seems recruitable but isn't, I still had hopes for him though.

>>264870462
>If he was never in Melee, do you think people would've requested him to be in Smash like other Fire Emblem Lords?

Melee came out before Roy's game actually, even in Japan. They put him in Melee to push the new Fire Emblem

>>264898649
Fuck you this was GOAT stage. I lost Lance here but the map was so awesome I ended up satisfied after clearing it.

>>264898649
I liked this stage, but personally I thought that if you went the Ilia route the difficulty spiked from the previous chapter whereas if you went the Sacae route the difficulty dropped from the last chapter.

>>264900410
I just realized I've never taken the Ilia route because Sue and Shin just end up eating up levels like mad.

>>264900831

I went the Ilia route once just because I heard it was easier. I did not want to try Sacae route on Hard mode.