Which Souls game is your favorite

Dark Souls 1.

Demon's Souls/Dark Souls 1. DaS2 was alright.

DaS>DaS2>DeS

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>>264862861

Dark Souls is Best Souls.

DaS2

I only care about gameplay.

Barefoot maiden is best

>>264862303
Demon's Souls>Dark Souls>King's Field Series>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>B-Team Souls

Also, Maiden in Black is objectively best waifu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY-CEFD8X1Q

Why does he need fur on armor

Dark

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Demon's Souls

>>264864127
Keep him warm from the snow areas that were supposed to be in the game

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>using the elite knight set instead of the best set in the game

>>264862303

Demon's, though I really like Dark, too.

Also

>Implying the emerald plain Jane is even comparable to the maiden in black

DaS but that's because I don't have a PS3 to play DeS on.

All three promo character designs are great-tier, you're a pleb if you don't agree.

>>264864127
To keep him warm.
He is rich.
He is pimp.

>>264862303
Probably gonna get shit on but DaS2. 134 hours logged. Fucking loved it. Sold it before the DLC came out though. Might pick it back up again when the GOTY comes out.

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how do i beat this fucker?
>inb4 git gud

>>264864516
>opened visor
Nope. Only if combined with Elite's Knight Helmet.

>>264864889
use your weapon to deal damage until he is defeated

DS2 has the best areas and general aesthetics but I think they got a bit carried away with the "u died xD" stuff so I prefer fighting in DS even if the combat is better on a technical level in 2.

Didn't play DeS sorry.

>>264864889
Get the purple shield in front of the dragon's roost in world 1, or be a royal and spam soul arrows while backpedaling, or git gud.

>>264862303
Dark Souls 1. Never played DeS, since I made the unfortunate decision to buy a fucking X360 instead of a PS3

King's Field 2.

>>264862303
DaS>=DeS>DaS II

People who love DaS 2 over the others just has no ground to stand their arguments. The game is flawed in a fundamental design decision level and it can't be fixed.

>>264864889
use weapons that deal magic damage
pick up crescent falchion from 4-1

DeS > DaS = DaS2

Fluted > Elite > Fursuit

>>264865170
>>264864956
thanks

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>>264864606
get one just for DeS, that's what I did

>>264864889
Get whatever that water shield spell is. Learn to roll through him. You can roll right in front of his face during his AOE attack and take no damage if you time it right. He's weak as fuck to magic so if you want to be a fag you can grab a shit ton of spice and shoot him with soul arrow from across the room for 3 minutes.

Roll, purple flame shield, water shield spell. gitting gudder.

>>264864689
What's the point of custom character sizes when they don't keep without CE?

>>264864618
Dark Souls is my first souls game, I play Knight, grabbed the Knight shield, the Elite Knight set and the Claymore and literally haven't used anything else, nothing feels as good, I spent a good while in Depths farming Large Titanite to get my gear to +5 and the armor to +10

DaS1 for pve, DaS2 for pvp and DeS is shit because consoles are for faggots

how much of these games is memorizing invincibility frames and how much is knowing stats?

>>264862303
DaS

Only one Souls game I actually like, others control like shit.

>>264864889

Dodge when he swings at you and then hit him

Don't fuck up

Use the pillars to protect yourself when you need to heal

>>264865461

Knowing stats doesn't matter for fuck

Knowing the i frames on your rolls is helpful but it's more helpful just to roll out of the way of the hitbox most of the time

>>264864689
shit
my dick

>>264865708
so is it safe to say that the souls games are tests of your reaction speed?

>>264865192
Change that equals sign to a greater than and you've got my opinion.

>>264862303
I liked the gameplay in DeS best. Lack of poise made combat really fun, you could use small weapon like the daggers or rapiers and they were actually decent since every hit will stun your enemy. I've dropped people in full armor with great swords using a Kris blade.

In Dark Souls 1/2 you'd just get two-handed smashed by some guy with 80+poise and a great club if you tried to do that.

>>264865434
DaS1 pvp is so shit I keep getting one and whats up with that dark shit people keep throwing at me

Demon's and Dark are both almost perfect. I play Dark more though because I don't have to get up and turn on my PS3.

>>264865892
I actually would, mostly it's a game of patience and common sense, if you pay attention to what the enemy is doing, you can get through the game like a knife through hot butter.

>>264865038
>even if the combat is better on a technical level in 2
Please don't tell me this is an actual 'opinion' people have.

>>264865892
pretty much all action games are this

Bonfire > Herald > MiB

Elite Knight > Fluted > Faraam

DaS > DeS = DaS2

the idea that DeS is the best souls game is just a meme used to troll people who don't have a ps3

DaS > DeS > DaS2

DaS PvP > DaS2 PvP > DeS PvP

>>264866215
No, you would just learn how to play the god damned game.

>why cant i attack this tank build head on with my punny dex weapons

I like Demons Souls a lot, but thats a dumb reason to put it above the other two.

>>264866215
I don't think you understand combat
and getting smashed by a club is only your fault. large weapons are by far the worst weapons

>>264865892

Actually most stuff is broadcasted early enough that reaction speed doesn't figure in that much. I'd say timing is more important, as well as ability to adapt.

Dark Souls 1, by far actually.
DeS was way too short and the many X-3/X-4s that were just corridors and a boss was massively disappointing.
DaS 2 just lacked good ideas in general.

Dark Souls > Demons Souls >> Dark Souls II

I played Dark Souls first, followed by Souls II and then just recently Demons Souls.
I absolutely loved Dark Souls, but 2 is still a disappointment. I don't even have the urge to play the DLC.
Demons Souls was a nice change of pace and the level based design did some wonders for certain areas in the game because they didn't have to bother with continuity between the different worlds.
The amount of stones required to upgrade stuff and equipment/item burden is annoying as fuck

>personal blog

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Demons souls is a boring, unfinished, uninspired kings field derivative with a less imaginative director who didn't really know what he was doing.

Dark souls was somewhat more realised and interesting, but still lacked focus and was generally uninteresting due to a huge rushed schedule.

Dark souls 2 is a polished, quality game that bought back core values of what makes games like this truly special, and I for one congratulate the team and Naotoshi Zin on accomplishing that.

siganture DS2 set should be Alva set, Faraam is gay-parade levels of horrid

>>264866935
Agreed

The Faraam set looked so good in the trailers and concept art but it looks like shit in game.

Demon's Souls purely on 3 decisions.
1. It was my first souls game, thus introducing me to the combat style and feel of survival. I greatly enjoyed the other two, but nothing feels quite as great as your first time delving into something.
2. It bolsters 2 of my top 3 favorite weapons in the souls games. Guillotine Axe and dragonbone smasher. My 3rd favorite is Demon's spear due to it's great range and strong power at low levels.
3. Has some of my favorite NPC stories in souls series and arguably the best villain NPC should you decide to become an evil being.

Just my opinions on why it's my favorite.

Dark Souls 2. Can't handle the shitty cont own a PS3

>>264866935
>Polished, quality game
>Polished
>Broken lighting system
>Areas that make no sense in geography
>Takes place on the opposite side of the world but still tries to constantly imply Drangleic was built on Lordran along with other DS1 callbacks.

Dark Souls 2 looks nice and runs better sure, and I enjoy it a great deal, but the lore in 2 is uninspired Dark Souls fanfiction.

Dark Souls 1 was the one I had the most fun with.

Everything just felt right.

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FAVORITE ARMOR TIME:

DeS: This sexy beast and Dark Silver.

DaS: Brass, Favor and Witch. Ciaran and Paladin Helms were sexy as fuck.

DaS2: Heide Chainmail + H. Greathelm, Archdrake and Visible Aurous.

>>264862303
Demon Souls level design.
Dark Souls PvP and sets.
Dark Souls 2 performance and servers.

Best souls game would be combination of those.

>>264866935
yeah, right

>>264867787
Fluted
Wanderers
Havent played in ages and forgot

DaS2 a shit

Demon's souls and DaS gotyay tier

This is a fact

>>264868025
Yes.
By the way remember to buy PS4 and Bloodborne.

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>>264867824
>Play DS2
>Enemy swings at me
>Attempt to Parry with shield just as they're about to hit
>Does nothing
>mfw

>>264868232

Honestly, I wont do that. It's not that I don't like it so far, it's that I don't like buying in things early. I like to observe things and then eventually go for it if i like it at all.

I'd rather just watch youtube videos of it

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DeS>DaS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Skyrim>>>>>>>>>DaS2
DeS is the best by far, currently replaying it for the 4th time.
DaS is great but feels rushed towards the end, i just wish they had time to finish it properly. But ptde was a good redemption.

Dark 1. Can't say enough good things. Love the level design with a big interconnected world, where every new area seems big and imposing, but seems small and simple once you know the area. Love the story and setting. Love the satisfying and simple RPG and combat systems.

Demon's is definitely close, but it's on the short side and I think it's too easy to become completely broken early in the game. It's a lot less refined in gameplay: a good example is the health system, with consumable grass and fairly forgiving HP totals.

Dark 2 is okay.

>>264868716
I hope you've bought a PS4 goy!

>>264868263
You can thank From for not making more Zones than World and Japan in matchmaking.

>>264862303
Dark Souls 1.

>>264864889
All of his moves are highly telegraphed. Use magically upgraded equipment, whomp him after he attacks. Use the I-frames on your rolls to dodge his attacks if you're too close.

He's rather aggressive. I found baiting out his dunk to be the most efficient method of getting attacks in, as it has a lot of cool down frames.

tl;dr git gud

He's surprisingly easy though. I played through Demon's Souls for the first time earlier this year and I remember everyone bitching about Flamelurker when the game first came out. But I downed him in maybe 5 tries. Now the fucking Maneaters? FUCK those guys. 30+ attempts.

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>>264868263

>Swing weapon

>Model passes through enemy

>No hit registered

Demon's Souls

Why not make a strawpoll OP?

Dark Souls would win

>>264868921
I've been really lucky with the Maneaters, never died to them once. I know they can decide to instantly kill you if they feel like it by spamming the charge move, but I've never seen it happen.

>>264864889

you can hide somewhere in a cage and shoot him with arrows and he just gets stuck on the other side. or just do hit and run with rawling and abusing the stairs

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>>264869020
>Swing weapon
>Model passes through enemy
>Hit sound
>No actual hit on the person

>>264869020
>swing weapon
>hit sound
>no damage dealt

>>264866935
This is a good post.

>>264865091

das is harder than des (if ur patient des is easier at least), im only at painted world das but des has a really cool artstyle too. Des has better music, and the tower of latria 3-1 and 3-2 are the best maps I've seen in my entire life

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>>264868845
December when i'll buy it, nice meme>>264868791
>>264869071
DaS pc fanbase brought us a whole new level of memelords, of course it will win,
>>264869020
You're talking about the dogs right? Yeah, DaS2 is broken as fuck.

>>264869252
>>264869320
well this is awkward

>>264869427
>that pic
fucking christ

>played dark souls
>get my shit handed
>18 hours and still couldn't get past spider fire tits
>install DS2
>holy shit this is easy (see: casual)
>bonfires on every corner like starbucks
>every important NPC in majula

Got almost 50 hours on it and still haven't completed it.

>>264869427

Actually I'm talking about humanoid dudes pretty early on but it was a problem I kept encountering

>>264869656
Jesus christ, the trip through Blighttown to Quelaag is like 90% of her difficulty, how do you not beat her?

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>>264869427
>Photoshopping an already fat ass.

The movement and other mechanical improvements in DS2 makes it hard to go back to the others.

>>264869071
I wanted a thread with discussion, not just people voting in a poll.

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<<My answer

>>264862303
>Faagam armor

Reminder that Alva was supposed to be on the cover, but the 3D trailer team wanted the Skyrim audience.

>>264869787
She took lol no damage and kept blowing me up.

>>264867787
DeS: Yurt's

DaS: Iron helm + Brass armor + Paladin's gauntlets and leggings

DaS2: Imported hood + Leydia Black Robe + Imported Manchettes + Elite Knight's leggings

>>264869551
>ass so big it bends the light around it
it's a shop

>>264869903
I play DS2 more now because it has more of a community and it runs way better overall and with the DLC it's probably the longest of them.

I loved DS1 and 2 has it's flaws but when you don't look at it like a sequel to DS1, the game is a solid 8, still the weakest souls game however.

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>>264869656

Wait so you haven't finished Dark Souls 1?

As for the thread, I'm a bit torn. DSII has a consistently good base game, and doesn't have anywhere near the drop in quality that Dark Souls has with Lost Izalith/the Bed of Chaos. But ultimately it's much less memorable as it is a retread of DaS' plot with much less ambition. The DLCs are dope.

Dark Souls is far, far more memorable. And I don't just say that as having played it first, but the seamlessly blending world along with the variety of enemies and wonderful atmosphere. DSII had a fine idea: It's the Age of Man now as opposed to the Age of Fire and we're exploring a continent instead of a 2 mi sq tract of land. Execution could've used work.

I started DeS a month ago but haven't had time to play it, but I can already tell it'll be far more memorable than either DaS or DeS.

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Pick your favorite between Demon's Souls and Dark Souls (and still enjoy the other)
>"dark" "souls" 2
lel

>>264870061
Alva looks like garbage though
It's like a shitty cross between Havel's and Elite Knights

Anyone here gonna be playing Crown of the Ivory King tomorrow?

>>264870461
The general over at vg is.

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>>264870239

This. DSII doesn't deserve near the flak it gets on /v/. A solid video game, but not the sequel everyone wanted. Needs more fanart too.

>>264870461

Delayed until the 30th.

>>264870583
Fuck off Vaati, literally no one but you (because you make money off of it) and your subscribers actually like Dark Souls 2.

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>Faraam armor appears in the cover
>character is seen wearing the Faraam armor in all the trailers
>in the game you don't get it until you visit drangleic castle, very late into the game
>the armor is a piece of shit at that point
>the downgraded lighting makes it look flat and awful

>>264870592
Why the fuck did they delay it so close to release?

>>264870763

Dunno.

>>264870670

I like Dark Souls II. Solid video game, not the sequel everyone wanted is all; there's really nothing so bad about it that /v/ gets its panties on a knot over it.

>>264870763
Bugs most likely.

>>264870670
DaS2 is fine, but it has no identity of it's own. It's literally Demon's Souls and Dark Souls put together, and that's it.

>>264870968
>linear levels
>shit hitboxes
>what is poise?
>Yui's idea of difficulty is how many enemies he can put into a room

>>264871342
so...the same as demon's souls?

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Am I the only one who likes them all, each for different reasons?

Demons' Souls has best level and enemy design, but worst overall combat and variety of usable weapons.
Dark Souls has best boss fights, and best early game, but falls flat after the halfway point.
Dark Souls 2 has best combat system and best PVP, as well as best variety of usable weapons, but poor level and enemy design.

Demon's>Dark>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DS2

Everyone who thinks Dark Souls 2 is better than the first 2 deserves to be gassed to death. Filthy casuals.

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>mfw I could not save Siegmeyer

He lived through the fight with the Chaos Eaters. I don't understand.

What's a fun build to play with in DeS? I started playing again after some time, made a faith build but got tired of it pretty quickly, I wanted to make a shieldless dex build but I already used curved swords on my magic character and katanas are not my thing.

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>>264869868
The more the better anon
>>264870583
praise le sun xDD
>>264870968
>/v/
It's not just /v/, everyone who's been playing the games for years is complaining about all the big pvpers and all the lore fans.
Everyone who actually likes the games is complaining.
And again, is not a shit game, but it's broken and disappointing.

>>264870592
Moonlight Greatsword sucking depresses me. It had such a good thing going in DaS.

>>264871191
The DLCs redeem it and lend to it some identity of its own but the base game made it clear that the B-team were content with making a combination of DeS and DaS.

>>264871534
he must live with at least 50% of his HP

>>264871635
>The DLCs redeem it

DLC does not redeem SHIT because it's DEE EL SEE

The level design, enemies, lore and overall atmosphere in Dark Souls are better, but the gameplay mechanics in Dark Souls 2 are better in my opinion. Demon's Souls I still haven't played since I don't have a PS3, but eventually I'll get around to it. For me, Dark Souls is 8/10 and the sequel is 7/10, both are really good games.

Dark Souls, though I've never played Demon's Souls because I don't have a PS3. 2 was kind of a disappointment for me since I clocked so many hours in 1.

>shit lore that's only vaguely related to the first game and could've easily been it's own stand alone thing
>terriblely easy boss fights that attempt to be harder with awful gimmicks like having multiple bosses at once
>shit texture work, dark souls 1 had such amazing texture work that could only be unlocked using DSFix on a PC but DaS2 just fell so flat with their graphics.
>backstabs ruined, pvp becomes a game of auto attacks
>soul memory

>>264869959
>going for smough first

I SHIGGIDIGY

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>>264871342
>linear levels

Not inherently a negative quality; Demon's Souls and Dark Souls had linear levels as well.

>shit hitboxes

More so than Dark Souls, aye. But it's not as bad as everyone makes out.

>what is poise?

Oh fuck yeah they really fucked tank builds those fuckers.

>Yui's idea of difficulty is how many enemies he can put into a room

DeS and DaS had this as well.

Again, it doesn't deserve anywhere near the flak that it does get. It's a game, games have flaws.

>>264871552

Yeah I agree with that.

>>264871837
I think someone left the gate open to the autism factory again.

>>264871534
>save Siegmeyer

You only delay the inevitable.

>>264872075
:^)

>>264866601
Why is opinion in quotes? Are you implying its a fact?

>>264871837

>The same people who say this will defend saying that the Dark Souls 1 DLC improved Dark Souls

Good helm for Black Kight armor? Doing a second run through DS1, the armor looks sick but the helm is so shit with those horns.

Itlooks good with artorias helm but that doesn't protect much.

>>264871437
Here's a fag who never played the game.
>>264871534
He has to kill the last one, and you have to leave before he kills it.
If you stay there he suicides.

Atmosphere: Demons Souls
Lore: Dark Souls
Gameplay: Dark Souls 2

I think I would give the edge to Dark Souls 1

>>264872304
AotA wasn't cut out of the base game for the purpose of seeling it in a season pass two months after release.
Base Dark Souls was also GOOD, unlike Dark Souls 2.

>>264872384
>atmosphere: demon's souls
lol

>>264866601

I like the way wake up moves were changed as well as the backstabs.

There are far, FAR less backstab bullshits going on than EVER in Dark Souls. Getting one feels great instead of cheap.

It's dragged down a lot though with the somehow even WORSE netcode resulting in "I was fucking 10 feet away how did that hit me"

>>264872037
You bring good points. The main thing that irritates me is how easily staggered you get in DS2, and how it can happen by getting hit with a Ladle.

I dont understand soulsfags
>DaS released
>OMG BEST GAEM EVER
>DaS2 released
>OMG THIS GAME IS SHIT! I WANT ANOTHER DeS! DeS IS THE BEST GAEM EVER

>>264872452
>>>/r/eddit

I like demons souls for aesthetic and music far and above the other two

Dark Souls for overall gameplay and experience, world layout etc.

Dark Souls 2 is like noticeably the worst in the group but not terrible?

>>264872467

...Maybe you should read the thread? DSII wasn't nearly as ambitious as DaS. It changed some things like adding dual-wielding, changed backstabs, but in level design it falls short compared to its predecessors. It's textbook one step forward two steps back.

>>264872037
Dark souls 2 is so fucking shit i'm not even going to bother writting all the reasons. I'm so disappointed I don't have the energy to explain to you why you have shit fucking taste

Shitpost all you want, i'm off to play DaS
Now THAT is a fucking souls game

jesus christ das2..

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>>264872418

I fucking told you this would happen

Darksoulsfags are so fucking predictable.

>>264872580
Yes, i prefer the DeS world layout myself but that's just a matter of preference.
All worlds are independent of each other but all the sections are connected.

>>264872459

Foreal I mean when I killed Raime I wanted to really use his Ultra Greatsword. Ring of Giants +2, still get staggered.

I put on full fucking Havel gear along with the Ring of Giants +2 and I STILL got fucking staggered it's fucking ridiculous how bad tank builds got fucked.

>>264872452
Tower of Latria mother fucker

>>264872467
>"If we bitch hard enuf then Miyazaki will come back!"

Dark Souls 2.

It has the most responsive controls, most balanced online and general gameplay, most replayability, most builds, most mechanics, and honestly runs great while generally looking good, whereas DaS 1 was a blurry mess.

Dark Souls is okay, but it runs wayyyy too fucking badly. I can't enjoy a game that runs at 20 fps most of the time, whereas DS2 runs at 60 fps all the time. There's absolutely no excuse. There's also no real reason to play in NG+ since the game is exactly the same except the enemies are more difficult.

The game also barely works with KB+M, whereas Dark Souls 2 has actual KB+M support.

I'll take Soul Memory over >INVADING/SUMMONING FAILED 50% of the time.

Haven't played DeS but since it runs on an older engine of DS1 I'm going to assume it runs even worse.

DaS1 for me

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>>264872691
Damn... I guess I'm wrong about Dark Souls 2 being shit then, since I'm a fag and all.

>>264872625
>>264872625
It's what happens when you put a monhun director to work with a souls game.
Miyazaki puts the "souls" in souls games.

>>264872758
>generic fortress at night
woo

>>264866935
is this the new copypasta?

>>264872304

Because it did? AoTA was incredible, and made up for the shit that was Lost Izalith with wonderful level design and three incredible bosses (well two I don't really dig Kalameet).

>>264872418

Base Dark Souls had Lost Izalith. Base Dark Souls II had the Black Gulch, but the Black Gulch was nowhere near as long as Lost Izalith and didn't have an awful boss. The DLC for DSII has been leagues ahead of the base game of DSII.

>>264872795
Looks like somebody didn't download DSfix, I had exactly zero problems with it, except for a barely noticable drop up in Blighttown.

>>264872938
>The DLC for DSII has been leagues ahead of the base game of DSII.

I already told you it doesn't matter how much better it is. It was cut out so they could sell it to you two months after release.
It's not okay, it shouldn't be okay and if you bought the DLC it's literally your fault.

>>264872625
Did you even read the post?
The funny thing about soulsfags is that essentially everyone except the 3 or 4 xbox players are retarded
PC players literally ruin the games for everyone with cheat engine
PS3 players literally do nothing but give mindless praise to DeS and stillborne
All parties also randomly bash DaS2 without providing any legit reasons whatsoever.
>muh item descriptions and elevator :(

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>>264872687

Okay. Bye I guess.

>>264872795
>most balanced online and general gameplay

Nope. The PvP manages to be worse because there are far more instances of "I was way too fucking far for that to have hit me."

>whereas DaS 1 was a blurry mess.
>Dark Souls is okay, but it runs wayyyy too fucking badly. I can't enjoy a game that runs at 20 fps most of the time, whereas DS2 runs at 60 fps all the time. There's absolutely no excuse. There's also no real reason to play in NG+ since the game is exactly the same except the enemies are more difficult.

What is Dark Souls Fix.

>The game also barely works with KB+M, whereas Dark Souls 2 has actual KB+M support.

Yeah I'll give you that.

>I'll take Soul Memory over >INVADING/SUMMONING FAILED 50% of the time.

Those are completely different things you imbecile.

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>>264872418
>Base Dark Souls was also GOOD

You lovin' them 3 Asylum Demons, Capra, Taurus, Gapie Dragon, Seath, Bed of Chaos, Pinwheel, Iron Golem, and Priscilla, son?

Let's not forget all the great levels. Love that Demon Ruins/Lost Izalith/Catacombs/Tomb of Giants/New Londo/Duke's Archives :)

>>264862303
Demon's > Dark 2 > Dark 1

Demon's being the most original, Dark 1 being the most shallow.

>>264872795
Your whole post is shit.
>most balanced online
Everyone is either a cleric or a hexer.
Everyone just raise stats to get the weapon they like and just buff it.
>most builds
see above,DaS was awesome, there's always the minmax faggots but i've seen some amazing original builds.
>most replayability
That's DeS
>runs great
your only point in your whole post.

>>264873145

>b-b-b-but I can mod it to make it better!

I bet you play Skyrim. :^)

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>>264871342
>Yui's idea of difficulty is how many enemies he can put into a room
In my experience, this was only valid in one room.

>>264873145
>complaining about phantom range
have you played dork souls? the phantom range and warpstabs are much worse in 1

>>264873079
>It was cut out so they could sell it to you two months after release.

Do you have proof of this?

>>264873118
>PC players literally ruin the games for everyone with cheat engine

Baseless generalization; I've got hundreds of hours logged into the PC Dark Souls and have nary encountered a hacker. DItto for Dark Souls II.

>PS3 players literally do nothing but give mindless praise to DeS and stillborne
>Stillborne

Wow man real mature on your part. Christ I really can't believe you said that oh my god are you fucking twelve?

>All parties also randomly bash DaS2 without providing any legit reasons whatsoever.

Worse netcode, worse hitboxes, worse level design/setting.

>>264862303
Demon's without doubts. I liked art direction, gameplay, story and characters lodsa more compared to the other games. Das1 was very enjoyable. Das2 destroyed any build reducing errything to a bunch of halvel\smelter players. Meh

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>>264862303
>Gameplay and PvP
Dark souls 2 (If you can adapt to SM instead of SL)
>Map and atmosphere (OST and lore included)
Dark souls

DS is my fav, but I think its mainly because of SL meta and first sould game syndrom. DS2 is superior in many ways to DS.

>>264873167
>Capra, Taurus, Gapie Dragon, Seath, Iron Golem, and Priscilla
>Catacombs/Tomb of Giants/New Londo/Duke's Archives
Nothing wrong with them, what's your problem?

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>>264873302

Never touched Skyrim. Nice deflection I guess.

>>264873415

I have. I still do. Phantom range is far more consistent in Dark Souls than DSII. Falls short with far more instances of strange backstabs.

>>264873419
What is it about two months after release you don't understand?

>>264872969
I don't care about DSFix. I don't rate games based on how good they are after you apply fanmade patches to them. What I got when I purchased the game is what forms my opinion.

>>264873145
>What is Dark Souls Fix.
See above.

>Those are completely different things you imbecile.
I agree. A game where the online works and one where it doesn't are two completely different things.

>The PvP manages to be worse because there are far more instances of lagging
I noticed as many instances of those in the first

>>264873164
i like the top left concept, if only..

>>264873594
So you deliberately played a game in a worse condition than you could for the same price?
You deserve yourself I guess.

>>264862303
>emerald herald>slut in black
>Faraam armor>EK>can opener

>>264873167
>You lovin' them 3 Asylum Demons, Capra, Taurus, Gapie Dragon, Seath, Bed of Chaos, Pinwheel, Iron Golem, and Priscilla, son?

The only thing wrong with this is the 3 Asylum Demons and perhaps the Bed of Chaos; I don't see the big deal about the BoC myself.

>Love that Demon Ruins/Lost Izalith/Catacombs/Tomb of Giants/New Londo/Duke's Archives :)

Lost Izalith is the only one that is objectively bad.

>>264873590

Oh right fuck you're right.

>>264873594
>See above.

Yeah I can agree with that I suppose.

>I agree. A game where the online works and one where it doesn't are two completely different things.

No you idiot. Soul Memory has nothing to do with the fact that DSII uses dedicated servers.

>I noticed as many instances of those in the first

And here's where our anecdotal evidence fails; I still PvP in Dark Souls regularly and there are just FAR less instances of bullshit ranged attacks than DSII.

>>264873730
Where did I say that?
I'm just saying I rate Dark Souls based on how it is out of the box, not how it plays after I install mods.

>>264873164
What is that?

>>264872795
Hilariously enough, Dark Souls 1 runs monumentally worse than Demon's Souls. Dark 1 had the real B team. It missed everything that made Demon's so unique, and instead chose to actively shit the bed every chance it got, and wasn't even completed time. Let's not forget every covenant not working, SUMMONING PHANTOM/SUMMONING FAILED INVADING WORLD AS A DARK SPIRIT NOTHING HAPPENED, PvP being reduced to firing the bass cannon, dark magic out the asshole, or a gimmick build, and of course the fucking shitty memes. Dark Souls was a huge step down from Demon's Souls, but the babbies here flocked to it because m-muh mustard race. All the bosses were shit, and the ones that weren't were copy pastes of Demon's. Dark Souls 1 was factually shit compared to even 2.

>>264873925
concept art of Majula

>>264873167
Catacombs duke's archives, new londo and tomb of giants were great, I dont get the hate for izalith besides its short and the dragon asses before patch.

Seath was gimmicky but ok boss, Iron Golem was fair and cool.

Yeah, some of the bosses were weak or just had too much health, and the repeating bosses in demon ruins were lazy and cheap, but I take that instead of the 9999th knight boss with the same fucking moveset.

>>264873164
Except for the upper left one, the rest look like the shitty bland game that DaS2 is.

>>264873981
Fuck that, that's the fucking fishing village from Nier.

>>264873921
>I'm just saying I rate Dark Souls based on how it is out of the box, not how it plays after I install mods.
Why though? This isn't a competition of devs, we're not rewarding any of the people who made it ITT, just discussing what game's our favorite and it's weird to disregard a mod that everybody can and does use.

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>>264873145
>What is Dark Souls Fix.
The worst embarrassment in vidya development history. Some random guy in his mothers basement fix the whole game for a team of FROM programmers in his spare time between watching naruto and faping to trap porn. How fucking incopetent are those dirty gooks?

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>>264874367
>incompetent
you should be banned right now
From is not only the most competent but also the most respected dev studio of all time

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>>264874502
yeah m8, I can see you keking behind that blalant bait.

>>264874481
Remove collapsing floors and add multiple levels to the room, with more seeds you have to destroy before getting to the core

>>264873932
>Let's not forget every covenant not working

But they do?

>SUMMONING PHANTOM/SUMMONING FAILED INVADING WORLD AS A DARK SPIRIT NOTHING HAPPENED

Aye, but the thing is it was one step forward two steps back: It's easier to invade/summon in DSII but there's just more instances of shitty ranged attacks and lag.

>PvP being reduced to firing the bass cannon

That's not true. Stop basing your assumptions on fucking youtube videos.

>dark magic out the asshole

Pendant, rolling.

>or a gimmick build

What's wrong with this

>and of course the fucking shitty memes

That's not indicative of the quality of the actual game you moron.

>Dark Souls was a huge step down from Demon's Souls

More weapons, improved mechanics, seamlessly connected world, expands on the story of Old King Allant in the form of Gwyn wonderfully, etc.

>All the bosses were shit

Nice opinions man.

>>264874367

Yeah the thing is if you followed the chain you moron I conceded that point.

>>264874367
I love trap porn. Also, From is very incompetent. Play literally any From game, they're broken and have the same issues, whether it's Dark Souls, or Tenchu. Their prime difficulty strategy is surprise 99 enemies and stunlocking.

>>264874367
>How fucking incopetent are those dirty gooks?
Very.

>>264873932
Confirmed for never pvp-ing, just watching ebin Only Afro vids.

>be told how hard dark souls is
>die about 30 times in the first few hours
>start to get good gear, game becomes noticeably easier
>find havels armor, upgrade his dragon tooth, get shield of astorias
>kill everything in one to three hits with my fuck huge hammer and tank bosses like they're fucking hollow
Sure is hard guys.

>>264874481
Make it do what it was intended to.
Be an actual boss, one that can move, scream at you, and die normally.

>>264874735
>Cheese the game
>WHY ISN'T THIS HARD?

>>264862303
why is the faraam armor dude doing the fuck you pose

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>>264874735
>the point of Dark Souls is being a hard game

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>>264873375
after careful assessment this room can easily be taken over if you bring down the barrel dudes with you.
Also is that some Gut's build I see?

>>264874594
Yeah, mind pointing your psot to me? I am not following all that crap. Also before you do, cant you not be such fanboi? Your last post is pathetic and as a DS fan It sickens me. The game have some problems and its ok for it to have them. Problems are to be accepted and learned from, not excused and ignored.

>>264874481
delete it, make another tower gargoyles clone boss

>>264874875
it is the main selling point

>>264874735
So it was only hard for more than half the game before you wore fully upgraded best gear and learned how to play?

>>264874964
And? Just because Namco like to use diffculty to market the game, doesn't make it its focus.

>>264874481
make it so ceaseless drops the orange charred ring then make the centipede demon the main boss of lost izalith

>>264874735
The Souls series isn't meant to be hard. It just doesn't hold you hand and expects you to handle it yourself. The people who exaggerate it being difficult are those who barely played it and quit before they beat the Taurus Demon.

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>>264862303
Demon's Souls for leveling, as convenient as the bonfires were.
Dark Souls for the armor. Seriously, Elite Knight not just looks good, it's easily one of the best armor sets in the game. Especially the leg and hand parts are extremely well optimized and commonly seen in PvP builds for a reason.

>>264874875
I didn't say that was the point.
It's just all I ever heard about the game, how hard it was. But it's really not that bad. Difficult in some places yes, but not impossible like I was lead to believe

>>264875131
>just because it is the focus doens't mean it is the focus

>>264874725
>Confirmed for never pvp-ing, just watching ebin Only Afro vids.

Incorrect, I PvP'd a lot, mostly with Shotels. The fact that people still fell for that a whole game later really showed how shit the community was. People generally just used cheap bullshit because the PvP mechanic got really bad from Demon's, where everyone was zipping around with every spell in the game and 3 gazillion stamina and life, making fights last hilariously long. It was a battle of wits, rather than having a sword that does 12 million damage, and if that failed, a spell that packs enough punch to kill you 18 times over. OnlyAfro a shit.

>>264875235
Namco is the publisher, not the developer.

>>264874937
>Yeah, mind pointing your psot to me?

Fuck off you're a big boy it's not difficult you idiot.

>The game have some problems and its ok for it to have them. Problems are to be accepted and learned from, not excused and ignored.

Yeah, I agree completely. Things like Lost Izalith are shit, however the things that anon pointed out were dumb and worth defending.

>>264865560
DeS controls almost identical to DaS.

The way you move around in DaSII is fucking retarded, you can't turn around in place and you have to walk in circles instead. This is so fucking stupid and feels bad to play.

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>>264875295

And here's where anecdotal evidence once again fails; I've had nothing but a positive experience PvPing in DaS.

>>264864516
Fatty ahead.

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>that feel when I love Demon's Souls and Dark Souls to pieces
>that feel when Dark Souls 2 was so "meh" I didn't even bother finishing

I want Bloodborne but there aren't many PS4 games I want.

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>>264864689
>that dragon

DeS > DS2 >>>>>>> DS1

>people still abbreviating dark souls 1 & 2 with an "a" inbetween

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>>264875231
Come on, anon. Why are you posting that crap? DS is hard compared to modern games, but its not its selling point. Also you can get OP as fuck in the first ¨10 minutes (farm the black knight halberd, let NPCs kill bosses for you, be overleveled and over equiped while jogging throught burg.

>>264875401
I am not reading all that shit to read your fanboy tier shitpost m8.

But you are full of shit and anon raised good points which you only look excuses for.
>Let's not forget every covenant not working
gravelord, WoW sure were good functional covenants
>SUMMONING PHANTOM/SUMMONING FAILED INVADING WORLD AS A DARK SPIRIT NOTHING HAPPENED
truth
>PvP being reduced to firing the bass cannon
well PvP is full of faggot build and you know it
>dark magic out the asshole
Dark magic was shitty implementation and you know it, they got it right in ds2
>or a gimmick build
that everybody uses them

other points are opinions and I dont agree with them

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Anyone else sad that there wasn't anything like Solaire in Dark Souls 2'
I mean, I guess Benhart is the closest we get because you can summon him for a lot of boss fights.
Benhart is alright, but Solaire is the best written fictional character of all time. Can't From just make something as good as Solaire again?

>>264869959
I want a portable game like this, focused on 8-directional movement and switching between directional and strafing movement instead of lock-on.

>>264875889
I don't understand how people had any difficulty with Anor Londo's archers. I spent more time looking where to go than actually getting through the area. You can just run past everything.

>>264875938
But solaire is only good because of his madness for sun. How would you make a character like that again, without copypasting it? It would be incredibly cheap if there were solaire alike.

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>>264868263
>play any Souls game
>use parry
>land parry, instant win
>miss parry, take huge health loss
>think "Why didn't I just attack or circle for a BS?"

Yet they keep putting it in the games. It and backstabbing serve no real purpose, when normal combat is far safer and more effective, but they just keep trying.

If they'd just make the fucking system less effective, and more like blocking someone, except it drains their stamina more, or regens yours or something, it wouldn't be so god damned hard to implement.

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>>264874735
>find havels armor
One doesn't just "find" it. You peaked online, didn't you?

>>264863459
This. Dark Souls 2 is the best game in the series, no contest.

>>264876084
Check out youtube, its fucking hilarious. I too was incredibly lucky with them everytime, but some people realy got fucked there alot and it wasnt even their fault.

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>>264875938
>Solaire is the best written fictional character of all time

This is fish.

>>264876089
Solaire is pretty much confirmed to be an immortal god, so it would make sense that he was still alive

>>264862303
>Demon's Souls
9.5
>Dark Souls
10
>Dark Souls II
8.5

Why does everyone say Dark Souls 2 has the best gameplay?
It feels slower to me, also the fucking rolling shit is awful.

>>264876259
>10/10 for a game that isn't even finished

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>>264862303
Bloodborne

>>264875889
>gravelord, WoW sure were good functional covenants

...Gravelord covenant was functional though? The Rat Covenant improved upon it greatly but the Gravelord Covenant was indeed functional.

>truth

Yeah. I didn't deny that. It is indeed one step forward and two back. Can you not fucking read?

>well PvP is full of faggot build and you know it

No, it's really not. This is where anecdotal evidence comes in. I've been PvPing regularly since fucking '12 and it's not full of faggot builds holy shit. I was in a fight club the other day and it was fun as shit.

>Dark magic was shitty implementation and you know it

No I don't actually. I dodged through that shit; it never bothered me. DSII did better on it though ye.

>that everybody uses them

...But DSII has that too. I don't understand.

>>264876329
well because your opinions are subjective. Seriously its ok to like DS gamepaly more, but saying that its better than DS2 would just be lying.

>>264876356
ITS N-NOT FINISHED CAUSE VEE TOLD ME THAT XD
and im including the dlc in my score because im a faggot

>>264876158
Or a phantom showed them the hidden area.

You're probably right, though.

DaS1

>>264876514
>ps2 graphics in a fucking PS4 game
no thanks

>>264874817
>BUT IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED THAT WAY!
Jesus fucking christ, are people who play video games supposed to be retarded? Most players are going to figure out their own strategies to solve problems. It's just that a lot of smart thinking breaks the game, even as the game showers you with means to make things rather easy.

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>>264876514
I realized the thing I don't like about Bloodborne.

1) All the enemies and even your character feel to tall, but that's probably because of reason 2
2) The camera is a lotttt closer in this game compared to every one Souls game.

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>>264876657
>that one guy who says literally any game with sub-par graphics is "PS2 graphics"
not defending Bloodborne but god damn does this need to stop

>>264876686
the souls community is autistic
>if you use a good armor, a greatshield, a strong weapon or magic then you have no right to talk about difficulty! you are not playing the game the right way!

apparently, they think From wanted people to play as SL1 with no estus, no bonfires, no weapons and no armors

>>264876158
>illusory wall ahead
I bet you pirated the game.
Besides, you can see the staircase behind the fireplace.
And apparently pointless room wasn't a reason to suspect illusory walls? You reek of 7th generation.

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>>264876735
I remember when Grant was the shit until they nerfed it.

>>264876735
That attack looks so cheap. I love it.

DaS>=DeS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DaSII

>>264876556
>...But DSII has that too. I don't understand.
>if others is shit its ok to that my fav game is shit too
thats where you are wrong

>No I don't actually. I dodged through that shit; it never bothered me. DSII did better on it though ye.
Well, but you know, thats like your opinion, man. It was shitty because it was slapped in with DLC and had that half baked pendant and strenght shit mechanic.

>No, it's really not. This is where anecdotal evidence comes in.
Exactly, so why are you attacking his point?

>Yeah. I didn't deny that.
yeah, yo uwere only excusing that shit

>Gravelord covenant was functional though?
now you are only arguing for the sake of arguing. Nobody was gravelord in DS.

Did we pretty much established that every point is shitty and you shouldnt have excused it in the first place, or do we keep going with fanboyism?

>>264876984
it's actually really bad in 90% of situations because it's easy to miss and you can be backstabbed during the getting up animation.
Only worth using if you know it's going to hit for sure.
The running jump attack however is pretty good for some cheap fun.

>>264877070
Don't you mean DeS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DaS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DaS2?
I'm sure that's what you meant, since Sony exclusive games are always, ALWAYS better than anything else.

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>>264866935
Dark Souls 2 is a boring, unfinished, uninspired kings field derivative with a less imaginative director who didn't really know what he was doing.

Demon Souls was somewhat more realized and interesting, but still lacked focus and was generally uninteresting due to a huge rushed schedule.

Dark souls is a polished, quality game that bought back core values of what makes games like this truly special, and I for one congratulate the team and Hidetaka Miyazaki on accomplishing that.

>>264877272
creative

>>264876920
Treat the player the way game initially does, they are going to do everything in their power to make their own task easier. Give them the power to do so through all the equipment you get showered with a little bit later on and they're going to do exactly that.

I didn't even use heavy armor on my first playthrough, and stuck to elite knights which I couldn't even upgrade very far for obvious lack of chunks, but once I did a low level run I realized how ridiculously easy havel's set and giant's set can make things.

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>>264876735
Silver Knight Straight Sword.

Sexy as fuck.
Longest straight sword (?).
Hits very hard.
Very nice and powerful R2 combos.
Can be fully upgraded right away even if you find it on a NG.

>>264874647
From, while making a couple of games in a format I like, is full of dumbasses and incompetent workers. A large portion of their coders are just otaku basement dwellers they slapped on their pay, who barely know how to code, much less how to code elegantly or effectively.

Also consider how Japan in general has no concept of how to use a PC. They're obsessed with mobile devices and consoles. PCs are for working and excel spreadsheets. There aren't many homegrown coders over there, so the talent pool is already thin.

FromSoft is still a small, young company, and it shows. They have very little actual talent beyond some artists and a couple of their directors, who have to act like retard wranglers. It's mind blowing they released a game of the quality of DeS and DS1 at all, even as awkward and buggy as they were.

You can't give that format to a western dev team though. Stupid niggers will just shit out a clone that tries too hard to be gothic God of War with a claymore, and completely miss the fucking point.

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So....the official Dark Souls facebook page just posted that the reason why the DLC was delayed is because they had to remove all the snow effects because consoles couldn't handle it

>>264877248
Don't you mean DeS + bloodborne>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NEVER >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EVER >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DaS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DaS2?

>>264876735
Estoc

pre anor londo DaS > DeS > DaS > DaS 2

>>264877248
For what I case, Demon and Dark are at the same level. I prefer Dark because I like the setting more and I really dislike the tendency system Demon uses, or at least I dislike how they implemented it.
Dark Souls II is shit. Not completely shit, it has its undeniable nice componentsbut the whole package disappointed me. People say I had too high anticipations but I call bullshit on that. I played through it four times, didn't like it. I will try it again as soon as the last dlc appears and will give him another shot, but I doubt that sir Alonne will make things better all by himself.

>>264867439
I don't think you know what bolster means

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>>264877272
>invade
>it's an obvious noob with drake sword, boar helmet, knight shield and chain armor
>attack them
>no damage
Time for curses!

>>264862303
I haven't played DeS but I like DaS better than DaS 2. It's not a bad game but I does not have the same grip on me as the first one.

I think my hands down favorite thing in Dark Souls 2 was having 2 weapon attributes on one weapon.
>When people turtle I just take out my weapon with fire and lightning on it, chip damage on them until they die
They gotta learn to not use a shield for Dark Souls 2.

The white ring was loads of fun the first few weeks too.

>>264877090
>if others is shit its ok to that my fav game is shit too
>thats where you are wrong

But I didn't say that what are you doing putting words in my mouth?

>It was shitty because it was slapped in with DLC and had that half baked pendant and strenght shit mechanic.

That's just like your opinion man I guess.

>Exactly, so why are you attacking his point?

I like to use anecdotal evidence when others use anecdotal evidence to point out hilariously dumb it is.

>yeah, yo uwere only excusing that shit

No...I didn't. I am in no way shape or form excusing the SUMMONING/INVASION FAILED of DaS. Point out exactly where I said that, please do I'll fucking wait.

>now you are only arguing for the sake of arguing. Nobody was gravelord in DS.

Statistically that's absolutely not possible; the likelihood if that statement being true is really low. So yeah.

>now you are only arguing for the sake of arguing

No...I'm really not. You and the other anon implied/said the Gravelord Covenant was not functional. It is. What is your definition of functional

>and you shouldnt have excused it in the first place

I'm not excusing anything you moron oh my goodness.

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>>264877493
I don't own a facebook. Is this guy laying a trap in front of me?

Only played Dark souls 1 and 2 so I don't know if my words does matter but I loved DaS 2, fuck /v/ opinion I enjoyed every second of it

>>264877657
Play DeS if you can. It's pretty similar to DaS but it's a bit more tightly knit but also more casual fun for people who liked Dark Souls.

>>264876089
>But solaire is only good because of his madness for sun
I thought it was because he's a really good and friendly guy in a world of shit.

>>264877406
Not as long as balder side sword.
Doesnt hit as hard as balder side sword.
R2 combos not has powerful as balder side sword.
So can the balder side sword.

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DeS>DaS2>DaS

>>264876735
Large Sword of Moonlight in DeS. That shit couldn't be blocked.

>>264877493
>>264877861
Lets hope he isn't because that story sounds legit on one side, but on the other bullshit.
Why announce a DLC with such features if you aren't even sure the consoles can run it?

I lose all motivation to play DaS after beating O&S.
Everything after always felt tedious and Gwyn wasn't that great.
Am I alone?

Arty's DLC is pretty damn cool though.

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>>264875938
>but Solaire is the best written fictional character of all time
Sounds like somebody waifued too hard.
It's ok, it can happen to anybody.

>>264862303
Demons for the setting.
DS2 for the gameplay.
DS1 for the storytelling.

>>264878135
>Hey guys I beat the game up until the best part
>I've beaten the game a few times now
>Why am I getting bored?

>>264878135
I agree, though Gwyn was a good boss after facing the likes of BoC and Four Kings.

>>264877406
I wish this weapon was better balanced PvP-wise.
BSS is just preferable in almost any way.
>>264878041
You have to grind for slab though.

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>as we know, there are some npcs we can recruit: they are old guards of the king, and we need them to help us for a battle that takes place before the final boss fight. The arena for this "coop" action is called "the great chaos" or something similar, and the player&allies get attacked by many "black guards"; the previewer didn't manage to win this fight because he and his allies weren't many enough and they got overwhelmed by these enemies. What the devs wanted to create with this fight is something similar to a regular battle of armies.

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>>264876735
Scrapping Spear.

RIP in peace. ;_;

>>264870670
DaS 2 is not a bad game but its a step back from DaS. I could get over the copy and paste story but the shitty hitboxes and the soul level bullshit really made my butt hurt.

>>264876735
Zwei

Why do people always claim Dark Souls 2 is terrible while also not saying anything bad about the game?

>>264878462
>all those LOL SO FHAUNNY memems
wow demons souls players are the worst

>>264878412
>kill asylum demon
>get slab

>>264878135
Everyone seems to think it but I really don't. Anor is surely a high point, but I still think that both Archives and New Londo are very good, especially because of the Spooky Kings.
The catacombs are an amazing vertical area if you do them at the right level (which I suppose is somewhere right after the gargoyles), but I agree that the tomb of the giant is not very intresting on subsequent playthroughs. It was indeed a quite tense place to explore as a new player though. Nito as a boss is quite bad.
The only real area I really dislike is Izalith but not really because of the gameplay itself, it's basically a beta location quickly completed to satisfy fucking Bandai. It's short, uneventful and then you can move on.
Gwyn is a nice boss if you don't parry or use shield. Yes I know, self limiting challenges and such, but if you do it like that has his own moments. Dat music also.

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>>264878648
This was years back retard

>>264878457
This has the potential to be a great co-op fight. Also if it has a good soundtrack it might be pretty memorable.

>>264876089
It's not really limited to Solaire. It's just that the NPCs in Dark Souls II never seem to be up to anything.
Meanwhile, most of them start off somewhere and end up elsewhere in Dark Souls. They have their arcs, agendas and fates.

>>264871534
He'll go hollow if you save him. The only way to keep him alive is to kill the chaos eaters before talking to him and that will end his quest and you will not get that titanite slab from Sieglinede.

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Dark Souls 2's PVP system is so god damn retarded
>blue casuals need their rings on at all times to get help
>because of that hardly anyone summons help when invaded
>Brotherhood of blood needs a ridiculous amount of wins to get rewards
>losing takes away previous wins
>because of this people don't want to invade so much
>giving blue sentinels less chances to earn points themselves
>no unlimited invasion item means Brotherhood members need to constantly duel and win or pay 10,000 souls a pop
>because of soul memory people don't want to do this
>Blue sentinels don't have to worry about losing covenant points but need to be summoned in order to go to the arena in order to invade sinners
>because both blue casuals and sentinels need the ring on at all times this happens even less so
Why the fuck didn't they just make being part of the covenant automatically make you eligible for help?
I'm sure blue casuals don't ever think "hey actually I didn't want help with this invader, which is why I am in the specific covenant to get help"
Just doing that would give sentinels more chances.
And having losing duels not reduce wins for Brotherhood of blood would make that more attractive, leading to more invasions and yet more blue sentinel work.

God fucking damn it.

>>264878041
It looks like shit in comparison. You can only get it to +10 'right away' (requires you to go back to the undead parish), which will get you an inferior weapon. Even when fully upgraded the difference in damage is negligible, and I'm fairly certain that its R2 combos have better DPS (>Balder >combos).

>>264878740
Why are witches so perfect /v/ ?

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>>264877853
>But I didn't say that what are you doing putting words in my mouth?
Seriously?

that everybody uses them
...But DSII has that too. I don't understand.

>That's just like your opinion man I guess
Now you are playing this game? Grow up, nobody in their right mind can say dark magic was a good mechanic. It should have been normal magic with no other faggotry, but they rushed it.

>I like to use anecdotal evidence when others use anecdotal evidence to point out hilariously dumb it is.
>I like to use opinions to counter opinions
I noticed

>Statistically that's absolutely not possible; the likelihood if that statement being true is really low. So yeah.
Literaly? Are you playing this low? How many tiems were you gravelroded compared to invasion/coop?

>What is your definition of functional
You are just palying with words right now, it was shit. Everybody know it was shit and badly implemented. Why are you defending it? It was shit covenant second only to WoW that was absulutely no covenant at all.

>I'm not excusing anything you moron oh my goodness.
Oh god, I dont even know what to say at this point. You made 3 fucking posts full of excuses why DS1 fuck ups arent that bad.

>>264878660
Which is already in my Uchigatana. This was his point. No need for such a thing with twinkling titanite.

>>264878263
>The flames are not moving
0/10, not comfy at all

>>264877493
>snowy area dlc without snow
That would be like having to remove the fire and lava from Old Iron King, what the shit.

I prefer the gameplay of Dark Souls 2
I prefer the atmosphere and environments of Demon Souls
I prefer the enemy designs in Dark Souls

>>264878876
>uses slab on a katana
>admits to being a katana user
>implying worthy of the balder swag sword

>>264878880
>MOOOOOOOM, I NEED CASUALIZED GRAPHICS FOR MY EYES!!
>IF THE FLAMES DON'T MOVE MY POOR LITTLE PUSSY EYES WON'T FEEL COMFY :C

>>264878828
>blue casuals need their rings on at all times to get help
This is wrong. Way of Blue autosummons. It's guardians that need to wear their ring.

dark souls 1 is best lore and character building wise. DaS2 is bretty gud so far, the areas are interesting

>>264878329
>games have no replayability

>>264878740
so it was okay to overuse memes like reddit?
fuck off your demon souls shithead

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>>264878648
Newfag detected. That comic most likely predates the creation of reddit.
>>264878462
Getting summoned as the monk was confusing as hell.
>suddenly in a room
>cutscene
>that wrap
>hang around the room
>fighting noises
>target destroyed
>gj bye bye
>mfw the whole time

>>264879127
Playing a game casually over and over lessens replayability a great deal.
You have to set challenges for yourself, rules to self-limit, speed run, etc.

>>264879159
Fuck off newfag

I ordered DeS after playing DaS 1 and 2
What am I in for?

>>264878880
Obviously they're gazing into each others eyes so intensely time itself stopped.

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>>264879185
>DeS
>predating the creation of reddit

>>264879231
I don't know. Paying about $300 for a 15 hour game? But if you already had a PS3, enjoy.

Demons > DaS >>> DaS 2 but I think DaS is the better game, I just like Demons more.

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>>264876741
nigger you dont know tall

>>264878610
>no responses
I guess DS2 bashers are just parroting retards
keep it up b-team

>>264874591

This, with >>264875163 replacing BoC. Have it be a duel between the player and the centipede demon across multiple collapsing floors culminating in a fighting across the bottom level which is a lava bed.

>>264879556
>responding to shit posters
>2015
>ISHYGDDT

>>264879545
I want to play this so hard holy fuck

Can we at least agree that the theme of the Nexus is the best thing we could ask for? I don't even like Demons much but fuck.
http://youtu.be/aY-CEFD8X1Q

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>>264874934
>Also is that some Gut's build I see?
No, just a really unoptimized one.

>>264879750
He is responding to his own post, anon.

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>>264879801
u jelly?

>>264879367
Nevermind I'm retarded. Somehow I was under the impression that it came to existence in 2011 for some reason.
Anyways, paint comics using memes were considered acceptable in a time when the internet still wasn't oversaturated with them.

>>264879556
>No one responds to my obvious bait
>Better respond to myself
Yeah, fuck off.
>Ha ha! They responded now! I have won!"
Yeah, fuck off.

>>264876735
Longsword, in all three games.

DeS Knight sword is cool too.