Did anyone else kinda sorta like Subspace? I really enjoyed

It was cool, but Intense mode made me hate Rob because of all the fucking enemies based on him in the bomb factory

I really liked that they were able to convey a lot of shit going on without people even talking.

Nes and Lucas were the closest thing we are ever going to get to a new Earthbound game

>>263911520
intense mode was great and the cutscenes were actually good

the cutscenes were cool. thats about it

The cutscenes were top notch but the gameplay was absolute garbage. Even melee's adventure mode was better

I liked the cutscenes. The gameplay wasn't very good though.

>>263910484
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6PNIjgjU_o

Don't mind me, just the best thing in all of Brawl coming through.

>>263911679
Just like Kid Icarus, right?

>>263910484
I loved Subspace

>>263910484
I loved it. It managed to connect the Nintendo franchises with some form of coherency and it played out like some sort of fanfiction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaAKKfZVSWw

One of my favorite cutscenes of all time

Cutscenes and story was cool.

Gameplay wasn't that great.

Tabuu was a great concept and fight.

>>263911972
>Not princess peachy Keen
>Not Sheik Punching the fucking airwing
>Not let's all just enjoy some tea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQec6eEcXyc

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The gameplay could have been better, and there should have been more non-OC enemies, but it was worth it for the cutscenes.

I can't believe they're BOTH gone.

I liked how my mains Ness,Luigi, and Dedede teamed up towards the end

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>>263911972
Oh lord, I forgot about the end of that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JePPps4D8aM

I still can't get over the fact that solid fucking snake was in Brawl and that it will never happen again

>>263912961
The canon ending team:
-Dedede
-Kirby
-Luigi
-Ness
-Sonic

>>263910484
I did.

>>263912614
fuck, I don't even know how that fit into the story AT ALL, but damn was it cool.

Who do you guys think were being carried in each vehicle?

Snake was probably Samus's co-pilet. I bet you they banged while they were dodging enemy fire.

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>>263912898
Pokemon Trainer will always be my favorite character.

He was never good.

I was never good with him.

But I still think he was the coolest fucking addition smash bros has ever gotten.

>>263912845
seriously why is peach standing there like a fucking retard as if nothings happening
bitch is fucking useless

>>263910484
>Not linking the best cutscene in any video game ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKHQXuXE8qc

I loved SSE, especially the cutscenes. Watching the various Nintendo characters interact in their various ways was super fun and epic.

> Mario and Link nearly throwing down
> Shiek and Fox nearly throwing down
> Meta-Knight and Lucario nearly throwing down
> Halberd kamikaze'ing against the Subspace Army and watching all the iconic Nintendo aircraft spring forth from the explosion
> Kirby's epic Dragoon kamikaze attack
> ROB's change of heart

Could you imagine if SSB4 had a SSE2? We could've been moving into cosmic-level, TTGL/Shin Getter territory. It's truly a sadness we'll never get a story mode like it.

>>263911889
>>263911949

these. The single player modes for both melee and brawl were incredibly awful. The cutscenes and situations are cool but trying to make a beat em up platformer out of the smash gameplay just didn't work.

>>263913517
you're late
>>263912614

>>263913447
>Everyone praising Sakurai
Boy, how times have changed.

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It was fun to play through once and only once.

The story was retarded but some of the happenings and character interactions were entertaining.

>>263914041
Not really. Everyone was being faggots around this time too when the full roster was leaked.

>WOLF LANDMASTER? REALLY? WHERE IS GENO?

I actually liked the gameplay, it was pretty much a Kirby game with Smash characters instead of copy abilities. But the cutscenes were absolutely amazing, its too bad we won't get anything like SSE in Smash 4, it was the best part of Brawl.

>>263911972
My favorite is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKX9V0lAF8w

The way the waddle dees run at 0:58 always cracks me up.

>>263911972
Still makes me smile 6 years later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHcb9eA03zE

Always a personal favorite

Cutscenes were the only good parts and even some of them sucked
>all that nodding and running
>all that retreating by running after nodding
>OC donut steels as majority of the enemies
>their designs were fucking stupid for the most part
>very few from Nintendo series
>had different physics from the main game
>recycled boss fights
>recycled environments
>what little there was of the story made less sense because most of it was cut
>Master Hand being someone's bitch
>Great Maze being the most half-assed thing ever
>not enough Peach making everyone tea

>>263914041
except not really

everyone was really mad when the brawl roster was made clear

>muh three landmasters

Cutscenes were fun, but it was very much a "one-time through and then never again" because the levels were usually boring as shit. I would have traded all of it for one extra character, but appreciate them trying something new.

>>263914041
>THREE LANDMASTERS?
>LUCAS IS A CLONE?
>JIGGLYPUFF AGAIN?
>GANONDORF IS STILL A FALCON CLONE?
>NO RIDLEY?
>NO MEWTWO?
>NO ROY?
Nothing has changed.

>>263911972
>that weak as shit punch
SSE was full of disappointments

It gave me everything I expected from Melee's tease of an intro. Best parts were Snakes total confusion at everything.

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It was a neat concept but the execution was total ass. On higher difficulties that shit just felt broken. And don't even get me started on the Great Maze.

Those cutscenes made up for it though.
>That one where Mario, Lino, Yoshi, Kirby and Pit team up to save the fucking day
>That one where EVERYONE storms that giant battleship

Shit man I'm getting chills just thinking about them

>>263914649
I love the unusual pairings they did with SSE.

>tfw Snake will never again team up with Anubis and Zoro to save princesses

>>263910484
No one did. If you did, you're stupid.

>>263915283
>Lino

Fucking autocorrect

>>263915283
>We'll never have any of those hammy as fuck cutscenes with Little Mac, WFT, Shulk or the Duck Hunt Dog
Shame. it could have been interesting.

>>263914379
>>263914820
>>263915068
Everyone in that image was praising Red, at least. Absolutely none of the newcomers for Smash 4 were met with that kind of unanimous praise.

People didn't like Subspace?
Dude I was a little preteen when this came out and I loved this game just for the story. After I finished the story for the second time I just went back to melee for multiplayer. Not a tourneyfag, but I just liked the way melee felt more.

SSB was a cool concept that wasn't executed very well.

The gameplay was pretty bland and that final level was pure bullshit. I also disliked the fact that 90% of the enemies were OC and not from the various character's series. It would have been much better with that kind of shit. Tabuu was a pretty fun boss fight though, and I liked the idea of bosses in general.

Too bad spoilerfags ruined it for everyone. I didn't think it needed to be taken out, but just improved. Seeing all those Nintendo characters together was amazing and it had some great moments. If they made a combination of Melee's adventure mode and SSE, it would be amazing. I'm still hoping for at least something like that in the Wii-U version to make up for no smash run.

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The levels were boring, the new enemies were dumb, some characters got way more screen time than others, Sakurai had to explain the plot on the Dojo, and it has probably the worst final level in a video game.
>>263915509
Except, you know, fucking Mega Man and Little Mac.

>>263915509
megaman you fucking retard.

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Truly the ultimate team.

>>263915509
I see you weren't here when Mega Man was shown. Red was nothing compared to all the blue.

>>263915668
>Little Mac
ALL HE CAN DO IS PUNCH
Granted, that did calm down a bit after the reveal, but I remember a lot of people mad about it.
>Mega Man
The closest to unanimous love. All I remember is the one guy who said he looked awful and soulless.

>>263913259

I wish we got cockpit shots.

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>>263915857
>tfw we will never get the White Bomber to compliment the Blue

>>263915509
>unanimous praise
Red didn't get unanimous praise
People bitched about him too, you're just finding it convenient to filter out the negative

>>263914476
based DDD

>>263915915
>All I remember is the one guy who said he looked awful and soulless
And I remember someone saying Red looked like a faggot instead of the original art
We going to keep cherrypicking?

cool cutscenes, terrible gameplay

melee adventure mode was better

>>263910484
It was a selling point for me, and I'm disappointed no equivalent exists in the 3DS/Wii U edition.

>>263916086
>>263916265
Fine, I'm wrong. I'll admit it.

>>263915952
>a shot of a couple of characters sitting comfortably in Falcon's ship
>the next shot is some other characters squished into the Pikmin storage on olimars ship

Fuck that would've been funny

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>>263913447
>Rot in hell furfag.
>Lucario will not be in brawl and you know it.

>>263914792
What did you expect half of Nintendo characters don't even speak

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Eh. The fanservicey cutscenes were nice.
The game was a poorly-done Kirby. Whoever came up with the idea of using trophy stands should be shot in the dick because of Meta Ridley.

I liked SSE, was alright with the gameplay too. Let's face it, only casuals couldn't handle making it through on intense.

The cutscenes were fine, I guess.

I especially like the scene when Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong roll in. It was that cool little chase scene and they play remastering of the first song from DKC. My favorite part, at that. That got me so excited the first time I watched it.

The campaign itself? Garbage. Even the bosses were no fun.

Wasted Potential: The Movie

Co-oped it with a roomate recently, shit wasn't nearly as bad as I recall. That doesn't excuse it from the bland enemies and poor level design, but it felt like playing a poor mans kirby game with a nice dose of fan service. Plus it gave you a chance to find additional music and beat the shit out of various bosses.

I think I'd be genuinely excited if they had another go at it for the WiiU version.

>>263915068
wait people hate jigglepuff

when was that a thing

>>263917367
>when was that a thing
Since before Smash 64.

>>263916661

Ridley is the new Lucario in that regard

>>263917367
It's a giant eyeball

>>263913461
Peach doesn't give a fuck. Never has, never will.

I liked the part where it turned out that all of it was Mr.G&W fault

The cutscenes were the only thing that saved it from being fucking garbage.

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I played it with a friend at launch. It was a fucking chore and I've never played a game where I wanted the gameplay to be over so I could see the next cutscene.

Played it once, never thought I'd play it a second time, but I'm playing it through with my gf, mostly because she just finished mother 3 and we're riding out that Lucas high.

Cutscenes were great, levels were alright, camera only following one player is annoying considering the game is built on a camera that tracks a lot of shit at once.

Best part is ZSS/Pikachu fanart

>>263913259
>I bet you they banged while they were dodging enemy fire.
why am i so hard

>>263918307
Oh and the way they revealed the lyrics to the main theme was kinda neat and tied it all together.

>>263918443
I wish this image would just leave the internet forever.

Or at least the unfunny faggot that spent time making this.

Lucas tripping was the stupidest fucking thing in the game and didn't even make sense
Like the story

>>263913547
The problem was that the story took itself way too seriously. If it had the same concept as the initial pitch (all the characters riding a bus to the Smash stadium with Snake in the back inside his box), it would've been way better.

The silly newcomer trailers (Rosalina, WFT and Little Mac) are the best because they don't take themselves seriously at all.

>>263918832
Lol how the fuck did his foot get stuck under the root?

>>263915668
>>263915707
>>263915857
I remember plenty of people complaining about megaman myself included

>>263915509
>he wasn't hype over SUPER FIGHTING ROBOT

>>263918814
not him but
>getting this mad over a god damn image

ow the edge

>>263910484
I liked it, lots of eye candy and it was really cool seeing them interact with each other. Some of the scenes were really cool too. Like Peach and Shiek sipping tea on an airship. I dont know why some people hated it so much, it was just a fun single player experience, something fighting games are doing more and more of.

I don't think getting rid of the adventure modes was a right answer.

The game has potential to be fun, but I think the levels were WAY too long and a lot of the enemies were more annoying than actually hard.

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>Diddy Kong dragging Fox to help him
>He does the same thing to Falco when he shows up

Shit like that is what made it

>>263918814
Whereabouts on the spectrum are you?

>Lucas and PT having a notable plot in SSE
>cut
Snake being cut hurts too even though his role was smaller, because he doesn't have any acknowledgement in 4.

>>263910484
Watching Nintendo characters interact was awesome. Playing SSE was miserable.

The cutscene where every character piles into the various spaceships and bumrush the enemy base is especially memorable.

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>>263915509
>hurr I wasn't here for neither
1/2

>>263919454
>Captain falcon spots the subspace platform carrying DK
>smiles and looks at Olimar
>Olimar shakes his head and tries to back away
>Falcon grabs his ass and jumps off the cliff
>Olimar just panics the whole way down

I fucking loved every minute those two had together.

If SSE was just the Great Maze (or just a straight Great Cave Offense clone) with actual Nintendo locations and more enemies, it would've been way better.

I know it's going to be impossible, but I really hope that Smash U has a fighting game inspired Classic Mode that has intro cutscenes, rival fights and endings, because Smash really needs to take more advantage of it's crossover aspect.

>>263919348
Mainly because it just wasn't fun to play. Too long, worse gameplay than the regular game, took itself way too seriously/

I hope they just throw in some cool cutscenes kinda like the newcomer videos for every fighter.

Like if you get get so many KOs or clear classic under a certain criteria with Mario you get a Mario trailer.

SSE movie when? it needs to be made, just like the AVGN movie needed to be mad

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>>263920010
2/2
Snake and Sonic were additions just as good as Mega Man and Pac Man.

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>the Subspace Army in general
>the gameplay is slower than other modes for some reason
>levels are too long and boring
>It was me, Literally Ta-who?
Don't even get me started on this shit. How do you fuck this concept up after Great Cave Offensive and Amazing Mirror?

>>263919009
I don't think that was a problem at all. The only problem was the fact that the gameplay was sorta bland due to the lazy level design, linearity, poor enemy design, and lack of mechanics unique to the story mode. Bosses were pretty tight though.

The idea of the Smash characters riding a bus to the stadium sounds fun, but without anymore detail, I'm happy we got SSE.

>>263920032
>Too long
So this is a complaint now? Video games are too long? The whole point was for it to be this big movie fan service piece. Unless you mean the gameplay made it too long, in which case i'd agree. As for taking itself seriously i dont even know how that's a criticism. Lots of it was being silly and just trying to be cool, not acting like an oscar winning drama.

The only thing I didn't like about SSE was how HUEG Pikachu was in the cutscenes

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>>263919769
At least Sakurai acknowledged one team.

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>>263920010
>tfw everyone who had that reaction is now dissapointed as fuck

>>263920284
Great cave offensive was fucking horseshit and boring as fuck.

>>263920383
>Unless you mean the gameplay made it too long
I'm pretty sure he meant the gameplay since most of the cutscenes weren't even a minute long.
>character shows up
>WHAM [character name]
>oh shit, something's going on
>now beat up Primids for ten minutes

>>263916143
DDD badges ended up saving everyone. DDD was the hero we deserve!

>>263920230
OH MAN
I'M A MEME

>>263913205
Man I'm going to miss the Metal Gear music.

>>263920383
Yes, there is a thing as too long, specially when levels just dragged on and weren't fun to play )or look at).

And the story was definitely serious, or at least it was trying to thanks to having Nojima's stupid ass writing the scenario.

>>263920843
SSE managed to be ten times worse.

I loved the shit out of SE. Plataforming wasn't very good, but bosses were great and cutscenes were triple fucking A.

However, I do feel that Smash 4 trailers were better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ2hmPqvGss

Having those short videos showcasing the new characters and the others interacting is really cool, more akin to Melee's opening.
And they were all revealed slowly to us. Directs, E3s, suprise streams... It was wonderful.

Here's hoping for a Bowser Jr. and Duck Hunt intro videos on the full game.

>>263920230
>Awwww shit, here comes Pac-Man...
I laughed way too hard.

I can play it multiple times

>>263911972
Olimar would've have been overpowered as crap if ROB didn't murder most of them

>>263913205
Snake was so fucking fun to play.
RIP

>>263921198
I can too, until the great maze

>>263921198
So can I. It's called playing the great maze once.

I didn't like how inconsistent the Pokemon were

Like you have Pikachu, who acted like a fucking cat

Then there's Lucario, who was some kind of Monk or some shit

>>263922050
and then you have Pokemon Trainer catching trophies
and Ivysaur was in some random ruins because

>>263921038
My favourite is still the Rosalina one because it has the best character interactions out of all the videos, but the Little Mac, Robin and Shulk (synchronized Marth/Link attack was fucking badass) were also pretty good.

Also, since the PotD is going back to doing more silly pictures for a while, I hope we get more stuff like the little Peach storyline that was running for a while.

>>263922206
>and Ivysaur was in some random ruins because

every character was in random ruins really

marth was in some random ruins

I only liked it for being a much deeper adventure mode.

>>263920445
Meta Knight's fucking huge. Is he mushroomed?

The scenes were good, but the game mode itself was overblown and I never felt the need to play it a second time.

They never explained what Snake was doing in the Smash world. That would've been funny.

>>263922327
>>263922206
they even brought it back a little bit in the megaman and charizard/greninja reveal. all the other reveales where in actual locations, except those.

It was inoffensive, passed the time, and was good for unlocking the characters.

>>263922254

>the little Peach storyline that was running for a while.

What?

>>263910484
I liked it.....Until the fucking repetitive maze at the end...

megaman is shit
the megaman games are shit
all fucking 100 of them

>>263922741
>was good for unlocking the characters.
this and the cutscenes were the redeeming parts of it really.

>>263922952
lenin's on sale again

>>263910484
>>263915372
I like it, but thanks to people who believe it was too grimderp, Sakurai removed it.

Yes I quite enjoyed it

also this got me pumped up like no other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_m5AsTPaPw

Sometimes I like beating up multiple
weak drones. So yes

>>263922684
>they even brought it back a little bit in the megaman and charizard/greninja reveal
It's a generic desert. That's like saying the Mega Man trailer takes place where Mario and Link chased Bowser because there's a cliff.

>>263923145
Sakurai removed it because everyone gushing over the only good part of the mode uploaded the cutscenes online.

>>263922952
K whatevs

>>263923150
I saw this one, but it was just as good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf5qQARxGm8

I thought the story was like one of those crossover fan-fictions that everyone wrote when they were kids.
It was fun as shit though
But if it had to go to make room for motherfucking Smash Run, I can understand.
I cannot wait for the glorious Kirby Air Ride days to come back.

>>263923194
fine it wasnt ruins, but the same thing applies of having characters randomly be in nondescript places

The Marth/Ike/Meta Knight cut scenes were the ones that got me pumped the most
And this one made me feel sad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih-YQID7F38

>>263923381
I think that's horse shit. People complained that it was garbage and they figured it wasn't worth the development time.

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>>263921038
>Reggie and Iwata's battle
Every fucking time.

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Post yfw this nigga of all people saved the Nintendo universe

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Imagine how great it would have been if it had been in this game instead of Brawl.
>glorious animations
>characters look like they do in their respective games
>fighting Master Hand, Crazy becoming the core instead of that crappy Taboo
>Lucina meeting Marth
>the Mario characters going to space
>Palutena's reveal in the game's style
>Jr. and Bowser in clown cars terrorizing the heroes
>Mega Man and Pac-Man interacting with Nintendo characters
>Duck Hunt Dog laugh track

>>263924414
:^)

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http://www.smashbros.com/wii/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea01.html
>yfw this update

>>263924414
Well, you know what they say...
Sega does what Nintendon't.

>>263924205
You're an idiot then.

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>>263924414
It felt rushed as fuack, specially knowing he was a late addition, but still wondering if that's true tough

>>263924414
I sometimes forget Sonic is in two Smash games
>>263924613
I was excited until I saw the stupid Kingdom Hearts thing at the end

>>263924481
>Dark Pit crashing the party
Would you really?

>>263924830
Would I really enjoy it? Yes.
I don't throw a fit every time I see a character I don't like. In fact, I'd love to see him argue with Pit. Maybe even have Sonic make a joke about Shadow.

>>263924687
He definitely was rushed in, everything points to it. Even his victory theme is ripped from another game.

>>263921038
Little Mac and Mii Fighters trailers are the best ones
Palutena is the worst, but other than that, they're all good

>>263924414
How the fuck DID he get into Subspace in the fight against Tabuu anyway? Did he hitch a ride under the Blue Falcon while Cap wasn't looking or something?

>>263925025
>Maybe even have Sonic make a joke about Shadow
You are right.

>>263925263
He ran so fast he walked on water and jumped in, duh.

>>263925263
bad writing

>>263925025
Kinda sucks that Kid Icarus Smash Taunts don't seem to be in the 3DS game
Sonic comparing DP to Shadow would be great at least.
I really wish there was a Smash Bros manga or comic series, since the only place I can get funny character interaction like that is in fan art or fanfiction, and god knows that's a crap shoot to deal with regarding quality

>>263924481
Nah, just having Snake interact with Nintendo characters alone makes Brawl's much more worth it.

>>263925263
He went so fast that he phased into a different universe.

>>263925263
Sonic was already there waiting to be in a good game

>>263925326
Dark Pit's response to Sonic: At least I actually got in the Smash roster and didn't end up as a shitty assist trophy.

>>263910484
i liked it a lot. Wish they would have opted for an episodic release of subspace with smash 4 rather than scrapping it entirely because "muh internet leaks" i'm still mad that he used that as an excuse, rather than just saying they wanted to focus more on the core game.

>>263921915
God I fucking love this cutscene. Especially olimar's ship

>>263925915
He's made it clear that he doesn't like people spoiling his games (he even mentioned it in a Dojo update regarding online modes), which is why all Uprising promotional material used pre Hades stuff only.

>>263925025
That white angel again, of all places!

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>>263913447
>>263920010
>>263920230
No other series does this to /v/
No other series causes this much happening on /v/
Why is Smash Brothers the best game of all time?

>>263910484
Fuck /v/. I've always loved Subspace.

Stop trying to act fucking cool for the losers.
>kinda, sorta

>>263925915
>excuse
He's actually really anal about spoilers.
He wanted to sue when the first Smash had its roster leaked. I wonder how he felt when everyone tweeted him the leak images.

>Mr.G&W is detrophy-fied
>Peach makes a scolding sound and wags her finger at him
>G&W looks sad
>Peach gives him her parosol
>G&W happily dances around

I still can't figure out wtf this cutscene was trying to convey. Was G&W sad that he wasn't 3D?

>>263925263
Remember that huge black hole that ate Sonic in the end of Sonic Colors? Turns out he ended up in Subspace, kicked Tabuu's ass, and then knocked out until he was saved by Wisps which transported him to his own universe.

>>263910484
Subspace would've been good if not for the lazy as fuck Great Maze. Shit pissed me off.

>>263926636
So he went back in time?

>>263925481
good writing

>>263920230
>JIMMY FUCKING NEUTRON IS CONFIRMED FOR SMASH
lel

>>263926939
writing

I fucking loved subspace. I even liked the maze.

Who didn't like it?

>>263926565
The asspull explanation is that Game & Watch doesn't know the difference between wrong and right so he had no idea what he was doing when Tabuu extracted the shadowbugs from his body to use in his army
Peach was scolding him for being bad
10/10 fanfiction

>>263927169
Most of the people in this thread, for very good reasons. It was a good idea, but god the execution was horrible.

>>263926840
More like Sonic Colors was a prequel to Brawl.

As barebones as melee adventure mode was, i still can't believe how superior is to subspace turd.
Quality>quantity

You now realize that Mr. G&W never got a splash screen.

>>263927169
A lot of people felt the level design was lazy and the maze was padding up the ass. It's not hard to see why.

>>263927169
>Who didn't like it?
plenty didn't like the gameplay portion, some didn't like it once they found out the game had a lot of cut content and subspace took up all the space

>>263927274
How the fuck was I ment to get all of that out of

>beep boop
>"Bah!"
>beep
>ticktockticktock
>hahaha

>>263927818

Morse, you dolt.

>>263920832

All the scrubs yes, not me, I actually know how to play him.

As in, not play him like he's samus.

>>263928207
how do we play him, based Pacbro?

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>>263927169
>Who didn't like it?
People who haved played good Kirby games.
>>263927818
>not speaking Nintendese
You should see Sakurai's explanation of the story where he talks about all the scenes that got cut like Dedede and Meta Knight fighting on the Halberd before the Subspace Army attacks, informing Dedede of the RRoD, leading to him making the badges. It was a mess.

>>263927274
>G&W is some morally ambiguous shadow figure made of special magic bugs

That's so fucking stupid

>>263928207
Agreed. First I played him wasn't fun at all, everything sucked.

Then I started getting good and I honestly can't remember the last time Smash Bros was this fun and satisfying.

>>263928207
It's not about him being bad, I know how to play him too. Infact I'll work to main him. But compared to the others he is dreadfully subpar.

>>263928509
not as stupid as two worlds where one is ruled by a hand and the other is ruled by Tron DESPITE THERE BEING ANOTHER MORE CORRUPT HAND THAT COULD HAVE BEEN THE VILLAIN

http://www.smashbros.com/wii/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea17.html

This Dojo update pretty much confirmed what I thought about SSE at the time I played it. It was a god damn mess that barely made sense and was way too serious for it own good.

>>263913205
Holy shit this would have been such a great reveal if they never had the trailer for him.

>>263921915
chills good, man

>>263928879
What the fuck were they thinking?

That fucking ROB cutscene

My fucking feels

>>263928879
>Tabuu takes notice of the peculiar qualities of Mr. Game & Watch’s body mass. He uses these particularities to create a nearly infinite number of shadow bugs, which he then uses to create the Subspace Army.
Uh

>>263916143
>>263920897
>>263914476

Sakurai knows how to write DDD

>Up to mischievous things
>Think he's the bad guy
>Nope, he's the one man who knows whats going on, doing his damnedest to stop the ultimate evil.
>Saves the day by letting out the other heroes when they were needed most
>Only real sin is not bothering to explain how he's going to save everyone, and thats what sets Kirby off in every fucking game too.

>>263929435
Exactly.

>>263929346
God knows.

Am I the only one who understood subspace pretty well?

And I was a teenager at the time

Hell yeah, subspace was/is awesome.

>>263929435
>However, since Mr. Game & Watch does not have any concept of good and evil, he is unaware of the effects caused when he is used in this way.
every time

>>263928879
>>263929672
Why are you surprised? It was written by Kazushige Nojima.
You know, the guy responsible for things like Final Fantasy VIII and Kingdom Hearts.

>>263929689
It's like KH in a way (makes sense since Nojima is a writer for it as well). Easy to understand, but it's presented in a way that's more confusing than it should be.

>>263929873
You forgot the brilliant FFX drama where Tidus kicks a bomb thinking it's a blitzball.

>>263917672
Rot in hell scalefag.
Ridley will not be in Smash 4 and you know it.

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>>263929873
>>263930002
>He is best known for writing several installments of Square Enix's Final Fantasy video game series—namely Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy X-2, Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII and Final Fantasy XV—and the Kingdom Hearts series

>>263930402
>>263929873
The actual FF7 was fine for what it was, and I can't really hate it. Most of FF8's problems come from the bad translation (still doesn't fix the whole orphanage thing though), and 10 was fantastic. After that though the guy can fuck off.

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>played through it and appreciated the simple yet engaging plot
>mfw Sakurai posted that in-depth rundown on the story and I found out Subspace Emissary had the deepest lore

>>263931018
>engaging plot
I need that laugh

>Lucas was depicted as a fucking crybaby even though he grew past that

Yeah, no.

>>263931147
>all the Nintendo heroes (as well as the villains later on) working together and going on adventures
>not engaging

>>263915509
/vp/ didnt existed at that time, so all hat hype was from /vp/oreons
>none of the newcomers for smash 4 were met with that praise
>what is megaman
>what is little mac
>what is robin

>>263910484
asdasdasd

>>263931331
Needed an excuse to give Lucas something of a character arc in the game.

>>263910484
most of it was just ok, but i loved the boss battles. great chance for more fanservice, too. stage bosses just aren't the same.

>>263931331
>Olimar is depicted as some weakling coward

And he's STILL shown as a weakling in the Greninja trailer

>>263931331
Yeah, none of his arc made sense, and kinda made him look like a bitch

I actually got Brawl BECAUSE of SSE, so I greatly enjoyed it (and I played through it twice).

The factory levels are the only ones I despised, the Great Labyrinth at the end wasn't as bad as people painted it but I'll admit it was sort of dull.

In fact, I think that I enjoyed SSE more than the multiplayer battles in Brawl.

Anyone got that video that was basically the first smash trailer, but was replaced by gameplay clips of KI:U instead?

>>263910484
>broing
You misspelled boring.

>>263920013
>all those times when wario was a massive cunt for the sake of being a cunt
It's literally the only reason I started playing Waaah.

I would be totally down for a SSE2

>>263922952
Capcom pls go

>Brawl was written by the lead Final Fantasy writer
>Original theme and other parts of the score by the lead Final Fantasy composer
>...No Square reps in the game at all

>>263932254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Yt0IYMVLXQ

>>263932408
I would too, if someone else wrote it.

is it weird that I actually like certain characters a lot more now just because of subspace?

>>263932520
All it needs is better level designs

>>263932517
Thanks anon.

>>263932389
>Wario wears the Ware clothes

I'm still fucking pissed

>>263932517
All those delicious tears.

>>263928504
>People who haved played good Kirby games.

Are you implying SSE is one of those?

>>263932520
Like Sakurai himself? He apparently wrote the entirety of Uprising, and that's one of the most entertaining Nintendo stories ever (though most of the quality comes from the localization since it had a ton of freedom regarding the translation and dialogue.

>>263921915
So many fucking lasers

>>263933107
>Who didn't like it?
I think he implied the opposite.

>We will never see the sequel to the greatest cutscenes of all gaming again in smash 4

the writer for subspace wanted to make it funny

sakurai made him change it

it's in an iwata asks

So Dedede actually saved the day and planned this to happen all along?

I'm glad Snake was around for it at least. It was cool to see him so out of his element.

I can tell that if they're not making something similar for this entry, they're slacking big time. It will be fun for 2 days tops. Autism will keep it alive with "competitive" smash bros.

>>263933384
Nah man. SSE was basically sakurai jerking off with kirby characters
smash 4 s the same thing but substitute KI

>>263933384
Never say never, there is an entirely different version coming to the wii u that we know almost nothing about.

>>263933451
It was still funny though?

>>263933574
Smash Run

>>263933647
Not really

I actually just rewatched the whole thing and the spotlight is pretty even, though Kirby and Dedede kinda are the ones who save the day

>>263933695
as in the tone

he had a premise where everyone was on a bus riding to the stadium and snake was tracking them or something

>>263933695
It had it's moments, but ti was still "serious".

>>263933857
>the spotlight is pretty even
they're on the halberd most of the time
dedede saves characters with badges
kirby swallows one and then saves the rest

Subspace wasnt fun to play

but everything else about it was so awesome

the cut-scenes, the co-op, even the stickers

all great ideas, but smash gameplay stuffed into kirby levels just wasnt fun

>>263933695
Imagine starting SSE and you see all the Smash characters riding on a bus
They tried too hard to make it "epic"

I loved subspace emissary, mostly for the cutscenes, but I kinda wish fox and all the other characters that could talk, would. It's hard to make a good story out of cutscenes that have no text or anything, and Nintendo tried, but overall it ended up being awkward

>>263934075
Those stickers were probably a pain to make, but I would replace them with the stat boosts in 4 any day.

>>263934268
>that cutscene where Diddy's trophy is consumed by the shadow bugs and Fox lets out a stupid loud wheeze

The Brawl cutscenes are why I can never hate nintendo. Something about them doing this with all of their most well known IPs and smashing them together in a way that is a love letter to the fans always makes me happy. I am just sad that there wont be any of these GOAT cutscenes for smash 4.

>>263920230
Was there a reason why this wasn't shown after the Invitational? Would the hype had been world destroying?

>>263934461
Well we have the badass newcomer trailers! But yeah a fixed subspace type of thing would be nice.

It felt at least as fun as playing with toys of all of the characters, which is exactly the void that the toys coming out is gonna fill.

>>263934461
The newcomer trailers are decent replacements. There just needs to be more of them.

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>>263913205

>>263934461
Honestly, the newcomer trailers are better than most of subspace. Too bad we won't get any more.

>>263934683
I think its because there was already plenty of hype at the invitational and they wanted to give everyone a 1 hour rest.

>>263914135
Someone should edit Red to be NigPit

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>>263921194
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8dRZ3atLW8

It was alright

Could do with some improvements

Too bad Nintendo took the modern game design way of "Just cut it out"

>>263935613
The improvements are Smash Run and the CG trailers.

>>263935613
Smush Ran

>>263910484
The fa that it's not in the new game ruins it for me

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>>263923150
I'm surprised I haven't seen more reaction images and gifs from the subspace cutscenes over the years.

>>263925704
underrated post

>>263936474
>my mario sense is tingling

>Ganondorf betrays Bowser
>The Dorf is more evil than the Koopa king

>>263936474
Saved

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>>263936474
Love these

what if the new sse was set in the smash manor?

>>263936997
The Dorf is like pure evil man

Bowser is just a jerk

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Falcon was the best character in Subspace. Took out the Pikmin threat before they could cause some serious shit.

>>263936997
>Fat Dragon who steals a princess isn't eviler than Dude who tries to conquer the world and is so evil he has several reincarnations of him being a dickass
There's probably more, but I don't know too much about LoZ.

>>263910484
Subspace Emissary was awesome! That's why I wish they would do another one for the next Sm4sh, but guess not anymore.

>>263912170

The creator has retired from everything. Mother 3's ending and open-ended bullshit everywhere just shows that he plain doesn't give a shit about the series anymore.
Let it go, anon.

>>263928879
just like a real cross over fan fiction

>>263937832
This.
Bowser only want the Mushroom kingdom, we have yet to see him straight up murdering someone or attempting genocide like Ganondorf.

>>263938364
If he didn't care, he would've let Mother 3 die with the cancellation of EB64.

>>263910484
I skipped it.

Then watched them on youtube

>>263918443
Why the hell do I still remember this?

>>263932476
Onion Knight when

>>263924617
underrated post.

>>263926413
Dark Souls II and one of the Halos caused a board-wide shitstorm.

I hated subspace and I hated the cutscenes.

The game took place in just generic dull fields, generic dull hallways or generic dull ruins. With lame OC enemies. And brawl's weird NO COLOUR ALLOWED bleach filter made it even worse.

I'd like to see a SSE2 but have the characters who speak in Nintendo games actually talk.

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>>263913447
>Free gay porn movies

>>263939768
>"Are you sure we should go towards that dark area?"
>"Poyo!"
>"Thanks, Kirby."

>>263936997
Well yeah http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwGpFoT3McA

>>263914649
Fuck yeah Pikachu with that SE Thunder. Eat shit Ridley.

>>263939768
>What do you think we should do next, Captain Falcon?
>I WAS BORN TO BE AN F-ZERO RACER

I want Smash to go back to the original Toy Story style. I want adventure mode to be in a kid's bedroom.

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>>263941097
>Samus, what do we need to do?
>THE BABY THE BABY THE BABY

>>263941537
I dislike the whole trophy thing. It would work better with plushies again.

>>263939768
>oh no! The subspace army is coming this way! What should we do, Link?
>Lets bomb some Dodongos!

>>263940795
Fuck the Kirby anime and mainly Sakurai for portraying him as a baby. Hated it. Kirby should be a silent protag at best, not some braindead infant.

>>263941735
At least they're moving away from that with RTD and 3D.

>>263941723
SQUADILLAH, WE ARE OFF

>>263940795
>"Are you sure we should go towards that dark area?"
>"Dark area?!"

>>263941075
>Thunder
>SE against dragons.

>>263939768
>Snake, we gotta go into the Subspace!

>Subspace?

>>263941723
>Mario, you have any ideas?
>OHOHOH, HERE'S YOUR PROBLEM, TOO MANY TOASTERS!

Or

CHECK THE ENCLOSED INSTRUCTION BOOK

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>>263941097
>Ara ara, I never expect the Hylians to be so hansdome
>HYAAA

I loved it. The gameplay was fine, it wasn't great but it was far from 'poor'. It'd be nice if they had more variety i.e. Star Fox esc moments, Metroid styled levels, moments that made you playing as a certain character seem more like you're actually playing that character.

>>263939768
>Wow King Dedede, good job with the brooches!

>AHEHEHEHE BROOCHES? I THOUGHT I WAS COOKIN UP A LIL OL TIME BOMB TO DO IN THAT BLASTED KIRBY!
*gay snail walks in*
>Ya really got a bang for your buck, sire!

My Music>Coin Launcher>Subspace Emissary>Classic>Masterpieces>Brawl

>>263942875
That would probably be way too much work, more things like Melee's Adventure Mode where you had to run through an F-Zero track or do a Metroid escape sequence would've been nice.

>>263939768
>Pikachu, we just got attacked by primids! Are you okay?

>OW MY FUCKING KNEE!

>>263939768
>Pika pika!
>Yeah! I'm really feeing it!

>>263915603
>They did bring back an improved version, it's Smash Run. Uses a lot of the concepts the SSE and turns it into a multiplayer romp.

>>263943452
>Feeling it?!

>>263910484

I though it was fine, it just should've been less floaty and have health bars rather than ring outs. It became frustrating bouncing all over the screen.

Bosses were great, too.

>>263943109
Yeah but it would be nice, imagine just quick fun F-Zero, Star Fox, Metroid sections. A section where you race through a landscape in 3D which then switches to typical 2D Smash gameplay for a fight etc, nice seamless little moments.

>>263939768
>Oh no! DK is dead!
>EDDIE! LET ME GO BACK TO MY HOME!

>>263944126
>Mama mia, DK I need your help to a save da princess
>Bananaaaa slaaamaaaaaaa

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>>263943070
>Playing coin launcher for fun

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>>263939768

>"THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE G-DIFFUSER!"

>>263920230
is there an image of 4chan when snake was announced?

>>263934268
it was especially weird with Snake

>>263944736
>haha! Those pasta pushers will never get me now!
>TIME FOR A BANANA SLAAMAAAA
>*DK suddenly grows horrifying teeth*

>>263944736

>DK we finally did it we truly are super smash brothers
>I shower you with my coconut cream pie

>there will never be a SSE2

I hope Wii U has something good to replace it

>>263945209
>>263945150
>>263944736

The Donkey Kong Country show should have its own reps.

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>>263942268

>>263945330
a proper arcade mode with intro and ending cutscenes

>>263932476
Geno

>The only one who speaks a line of dialogue that isn't a move's name is Snake

>>263945150
>*DK suddenly grows horrifying teeth*
What was the deal with that show? In one moment DK was totally toothless and in the next moment it grew fangs then in the next episode he had those fangs from the beginning to the end.

>>263910484
Me too.

>>263945895
Pikachu talks more then anyone in SSE

>Thinking Snake's gone

He's just keeping us waiting.

>>263920445
They were my favorite team

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN8_TnzLgIU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWf_nn8jFoc

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>>263918443

Here's one I found in my brawl folder

>>263910484
The idea, music, and cutscenes were great, but Brawl's physics kinda made the actual progression feel like shit. If it was in a non smash game as a sidescroller, then holy shit would it be 10/10, but its in brawl of all games, in a game where gameplay is 90% of the games merit.

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Subspace is only good for the characters interaction with each other, and the CG trailers kind of do the same (though obviously not as much).

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>>263942882
holy shit, gold

>>263915337
I thought SamusxPikachu was a nod to saving the animals in Super and Fusion

>>263939768
>Hey Sonic, what do you think we shoul-
>I FOUND YOU FAKER

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>tfw still no true HD cutscenes on youtube or anyplace

One of my favorite things about Brawl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNNvvymdceU