What happened to JRPGs that were just about amazing adventures?

>>263462132
adventure don't sell anymore

>>263462132
>Chrono trigger
>Typical actually nobody cares game

Go back to mario faggot

The genre's just stagnating.

I don't know op I'm playing etrian Odyssey 4 right now and it's amazing and I can still have a party of only loli.

>>263462379
What

>>263462132
Because the gameplay of JRPGs is fundementally boring. Now that people have already played adventure JRPGs, the only people who are still interested in the genre are turboweebs.

>>263462132

You should have bought more copies of Chrono Trigger DS.

Every one just wants boob jiggling waifus

>>263462132
I miss road trip RPGs. Sick of saving the fucking world from ancient evil.

yes I know you do that in CT as well but it's almost secondary to the rest of the game

>>263462132
alot of JRPGs still is about the adventure. we live in a linear generation now. and they do have to make money somehow.

And People just moved on with MMOs

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>>263462132

>why are there no good JRPGs!

Because you are only looking at the most popular or advertised JRPGs. Play different games. There's plenty that focus on adventure and gameplay.

>in before he claims Dragon Quest sucks when it does everything he's asking for

>>263465615

That's what the whole game is about you fucking idiot.

Nothing is wrong with JRPGs, you were retarded as a child and you are retarded now.

>>263466640
Shame that these days Square-Enix gives no shits about localizing the newer Dragon Quest games like the ones on the 3DS. Not when they can just shit out a mobile port and reuse an older, pre-existing localization. Honestly makes me think they don't like bringing the series west.

>>263465615
>but it's almost secondary to the rest of the game

No it fucking isn't.

>>263462132
I'm just waiting for DQXI
>confirmed not mmo
>confirmed being made solely for home consoles

>>263467334

>confirmed being made solely for home consoles

Except it hasn't. All Yuji Horii has said he he would 'like to see it on a big screen'. And stupid gaming sites translated that into 'OMG DRAGON QUEST XI CONFIRMED FOR CONSOLES!!!!!'

And even then, who cares? We won't get it outside Japan.

>>263466807
But it was practically secondary to the character arcs, dipshit. Lavos was little more then a giant insectoid end to the game. The game was about your party, their interactions and their effect on the world around them.

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>>263462132
you aren't looking hard enough. You're like the people who say all modern anime are shit and the only good anime is Cowboy Bebop and FLCL

What are some good adventure/road trip RPGs? Besides CT of course.

>>263467870

>secondary to the characters arcs

No it fucking wasn't.

Shut the fuck up/

>>263467969

That game is almost a decade old. You aren't really helping.

>>263467625
>states it isn't being made for mobile devices
>states it isn't being made for handhelds
you do the math retard

> We won't get it outside Japan.
>just because the one MMO wasn't localized that suddenly means the next single-player DQ won't be localized.

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>>263468216

Dragon Quest (any)
Suikoden I-III
Seiken Densetsu 3
Mario RPG/Paper Mario
Valkyria Chronicles

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>>263468389
fine, then have Ao no Kiseki that came out 3 years ago and Sen no Kiseki II that will come out in 11 days

>>263462132
>I just want a fun adventure, /v/.
I played Penny Arcade 3-4 and they sort of filled that whole.
I'd like something that takes it a little bit serious though.

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>>263468497

>states it isn't being made for mobile devices
>states it isn't being made for handhelds

When did Yuji Horii ever say any of this? Please provide a source.

>just because the one MMO wasn't localized that suddenly means the next single-player DQ won't be localized.

SquareEnix hasn't allowed any Dragon Quest game to be localized in over 5 years. Even when Nintendo is offering to cover the cost. That's 7 different games in the last 5 years. And there's nearly 14 Dragon Quest games we haven't gotten in the west since the SE merger.

Man you're an idiot.

>>263468778

Oh wow sure do love moonrunes

>>263468778
>swag-ass environments and shit
>characters look as generic and bland as humanly possible.
why do japanese games do this so much?

>>263468216
Dark Cloud and Dark Chronicle are more dungeon crawlers but they have good adventurefeel.

>>263469090

Making interesting character designs would not appeal to the otaku market.

Even Kiseki games pander to otaku.

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>>263469051
>not knowing moonrune

ok we can say that it's mostly fanservice kusoge that gets localized to English, but there are still good stuff coming out that will never ever get localized

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>>263469090
Because ears

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Play Kichikuou Rance

>>263468216
Ni No Kuni
Only recent game that feels remotely close to being an oldschool rpg "adventure".

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>>263462132

>>263470031

>Ni no Kuni
>a Dragon Quest game without any of the things that makes Dragon Quest good

Also, you can hardly call something an adventure when it tells you every single thing to do.

>>263470191
>all anyone ever talks about is waifushit

No thanks

>>263470235
It doesn't do that though.

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>>263462132
>It seems the only options these days are "Super Kawaii Slice of Life Cute Girls Doing Cute Things: The Game" or "The Edge of Darkness: Dark Like My Soul Edition".
I know that feel, man, I haven't played an enjoyable JRPG that wasn't fanservice-y "UGUU~ KAWAII DESUNE!" bullshit or Grimdark Over the EDGE stuff since the PS2.

>>263469047
>When did Yuji Horii ever say any of this? Please provide a source.
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/06/12/dragon-quest-xi-development-will-made-home-consoles/
>SquareEnix hasn't allowed any Dragon Quest game to be localized in over 5 years.

>What is DQM joker 2
>what is DQVI DS

So just because they haven't localized the MMO, a few minor spin-offs, and the VII remake, they're automatically not going to localize the next mainline single-player game in the series?

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>>263469601
know where I can download? I can only find Rance Quest and Sengoku Rance on nyaa

>>263470405
The waifushit is a relatively small part of the game. How much effort you put into it is your choice.

Am I the only one who was a bit disappointed with CTs ending?

>>263462379
You need to make bait less apparent, anon.

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>>263470583

"'ey, this girl seems sad. Maybe you should find one o' dos Pieces of Heart!"

"Look son, this guy is super happy! Maybe he has a piece of heart!"

"You know that piece of heart you just got from that guy? Maybe you should use it on this sad girl!"

Then the healed girl tells you exactly where to go next. And you watch a 2 hour story cutscene.

Repeat 10 times until you fight the end boss.

>>263470919
>>263470919
>The waifushit is a relatively small part of the game.
I'm not falling for that shit again, you probably say the same shit about Personas 3 and 4.

>>263467139
Dragon Quest doesn't usually sell very well in the US

Probably because they come out way later.

>>263471106
And what if I told you I dislike Persona for that exact reason?

>>263470031
Ni No Kuni could have been so much better than it was.

>>263470191
I just realized that lucina is on that image, and it's not chrom's leg.

>>263467139
The mobile port has a new localization, dork.
It just retained a few old elements.

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>>263462132
Back in the 90s, JRPGs weren't great because of any special element. Japanese consoles and developers dominated the market worldwide. They had the best technology, best talent, the connections and business strategy to make it all work. JRPGs in the 90s weren't great, they were just one of the best games because there wasn't any strong competition against them.

Now, the western development scene has grown by leaps and bounds, in AAA and in indie, where JP development has floundered.

But we've seen big western bets that aren't producing on either the critical front or sales front: TESO, Watch Dogs, Destiny, and Titanfall. If western devs being to flounder themselves, JP development may have an opportunity to fill in that space. Then again, so could any other single developer.

>>263462132
>What happened to JRPGs that were just about amazing adventures?
Play the Tales/Ys series, granted its always been about saving the world but the adventure was there.
Last game i played that was more nostalgic to older rpgs was Resonance of Fate.
But other than that >>263462692 has it right.

>>263470816

The link you just provided is exactly what I was talking about. Nowhere has Yuji Horii ever confirmed he's making the game for home consoles. He mearly said 'I'd like to see it on the big screen'. That article also claimed he definitively said he isn't making the game for handhelds. But then you look at the article they linked as a source, and all he's talking about is Smartphones.

Its the epitome of bad gaming journalism. Making assumptions and reporting them as facts.


>What is DQM joker 2
>what is DQVI DS

Two games Nintendo had to bring over. And they did them over 4 years ago.

>So just because they haven't localized the MMO, a few minor spin-offs, and the VII remake
>so just because they haven't released any Dragon Quest game in years, that means they won't do it for a main series game?

Most likely yes. Until we hear otherwise.

>>263471638
That's Marth.

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>>263471475
I'D CALL YOU A LIAR LIKE ALL THE REST OF THEM

>>263462132

What is Xenoblade

Bravely Default was made to appease you, OP

Play Xenoblade if you haven't already
IT's basically about a pair of bros going on a genocidal road trip and picking up some other people to help them on the way.

>>263462132
I agree with you OP

>>263471638
Chrom's leg is just bent, look next to Lucina's face and you can see his foot.

>>263471638
Her face is at her Dad's crotch, where it belongs.

>>263471689
>JRPGs in the 90s weren't great, they were just one of the best games because there wasn't any strong competition against them.
Thats incorrect. JRPGs were more prevelant in the market due to FF mainly. A lot of people wanted to get in on that money thus we got Xenogears, Front Mission 3, Valkyrie Profile, Vagrant Story, Star Ocean 2 etc. The Main problem that happen was companies mistreating their employees or practicing bad business habit thus causing merges. When Squaresoft became SquareEniux that was the first sign that JRPGs wouldnt be the same to me.

>>263470816

>So just because they haven't localized the MMO, a few minor spin-offs, and the VII remake

So, nay Dragon Quest game? Also, fuck you for implying the remakes and Rocket Slime aren't important.

Tales games are still like that.

>>263470865
http://arunarutranslatescrap.wordpress.com/2014/09/13/kichikuou-rance-english-translation/

Contains the whole game

>>263471638
No, Chrom just has a leg perfectly shaped to look like her.

>>263472269
What if he cut it off and used it to masturbate?

>>263472204

>When Squaresoft became SquareEniux that was the first sign that JRPGs wouldnt be the same to me.

But Square is doing the exact same shit they always do. Focus on big budget Final Fantasy games and let their other IPs die. This was the reason they had to merge with Enix in the first place.

Don't keep assuming the merger killed them. We're still getting endless Final Fantasy games, while Square is blocking Enix games from coming to the west. Square's obsession with Final Fantasy has always been the problem.

>>263471806
Really though, if you have a 3DS, give the demo a go. The story's pretty good, and the combat is great. Frederick op

>>263472204
You're not even explaining how its incorrect. There wasn't strong competition against JRPGs, which head many fundamental advantages in the video game industry at the time and therefore flourished.

>>263472226
thanks dude, I'll give it a shot

I hope it's not as complicated as Sengoku Rance, I dropped the Sengoku since I'm too scared of wasting my turn with bad choices and fucking up

>>263472479
You do realize Enix games do come over west? They have and people don't buy them.

>>263472360
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

>>263472207
>fuck you for implying the remakes and Rocket Slime aren't important.

Jesus christ. They aren't. They're remakes and spin-offs. Are you even trying to help support DQ where you live by spreading the word or or anything?

Every DQ fan I meet is too busy playing other games than being informed or interested in talking about DQ games.

>>263467139
>That DQ1 mobile port
>Not good

It's not as good as the GBC version in my opinion, but it's the second best version of the game.

>>263472884
be aware that there is an early battle against the Helman army - which whilst winnable is meant to be lost.
It's like the fourth turn of the prologue

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>>263473413
Fuck you, it's awful.

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>>263473604

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I've got a good adventure RPG for you
It's called Black Sigil Blade of the Exiled
It's a Canadian legally-distinct Chrono Trigger made by a company that went immediately bankrupt

>>263473604
I never bothered with DQ games because of ye olde English

>>263472479
Squaresoft did focus mainly on FF being in the front lines because its been the main thing thats been able to combat against Dragonquest.
Reason why they chose to make the decisions that made back then was broaden the spectrum on the JRPG world more or less. So i cant believe you could really say Square back then is how Square would act now. Squaresoft understood balance Square now is afraid of change.


>>263472703
I meant JRPGs battling around each other. as far as shit going on in the west to rival it that correct we didnt have shit. But in Japan it was there.

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>>263473604
>It's a bad translation because in this version that one NPC didn't specifically say he hoped you'd do well.

That's one hell of a thing to condemn a port for.

>>263473804
What's the problem with this one?

please save us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOYaiR0obRc
please be good

square just this once

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>>263465615
>I miss road trip RPGs.

Same.

The best road trip RPGs were always Nintendo's though. I don't know why they haven't been able to replicate what they did with PM, TTYD, and Superstar Saga in the new Mario RPGs.

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Ys series do give you a great sense of adventure even if the recent ones lowers the difficulty significantly

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>>263473976
It's like that for every single text though, jackass.
On top of that, the visual effects are non-existant, which were even present in GBC, making it literally almost as bad as the NES version.

>>263474367
Because there haven't been any new Mario RPGs aside from Dream Team and that one wasn't about adventure

>>263474127
If this flops Square is fucked.

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>>263474120
If you have to ask what's wrong,I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you.

Have this as a bonus though:
Slime > Slime

Red Slime > She Slime

Dracky > Dracky

Spooky > Ghost

Magician > Prestiditator

Scorpion > Scorpion

MagiDrakee > Drackolyte

Skeleton > Skeleton

Poltergeist > Fightgeist

Eyeder > Lunatick

Drackyma > Drackyma

Wyvern > Chimaera

Wolf > Bewarewolf

Wraith > Skeleton Scrapper

WoldLord > Scarewolf

Werewolf > Tearwolf

Magwyvern > Hocus Chimaera

Star Wyvern > Cosmic Chimaera

Metaly > Metal Slime

Droll > Droll Drone

DrollMagi > Droll Diabolist

EyederLord > Raving Lunatick

Stone Man > Stone Golem

Golem > Golem

GoldMan > Gold Golem

Metal Scorpion > Iron Scorpion

Rogue Scorpion > Death Scorpion

Shadow Knight > Dark Skeleton

Dead Knight > Skeleton Soldier

Specter > Spitegeist

Armored Knight > Knight Errant

Mad Knight > Knight Aberrant

Axe Knight > Knight Abhorrent

Dragon > Green Dragon

Blue Dragon > Blue Dragon

Red Dragon > Red Dragon

Druin > Legerdeman

DruinLord > Vis Mager

>>263474457
>Every single text.
Only a few, really, and thankfully nothing important.

>>263474398
Which YS is this? Oath?

>Thread about looking for modern JRPGs with a focus on happy team going on a big adventure.
>ctrl+f
>no mention of Xenoblade Chronicles

Shameful, /v/. I expect better than this. Everyone who likes games that give off that inexplicable "Chrono Trigger feeling" really owe it to themselves to at least give it a shot.

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>>263474639
Thank God.
Then everything will go back to what it should be.

>>263468240
Yes, it was.

>>263474639
Well yah, which is why a lot of people will buy it to avoid that. Also KH is a soild back up just in case this does. As much as i hate to admit it KH can rake in some cash.

>>263474491
>Because there haven't been any new Mario RPGs aside from Dream Team

There was also PiT, BIS, SPM, and Sticker Star, and those were all not really adventures either.

>>263471106
If you seriously thought waifushit was a big part of P3/4 and isn't massively exaggerated (discussions on /v/ notwithstanding) you're retarded

>>263474905
It's Ark of Napishtim

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>>263474898
>Only a few, really
I beat the entire game. Everything is changed.
There's a tiny few that are for the better, but everything else is frivalous as fuck.

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>>263474905
Ark of Napishtim, the first of the Ys games with that engine

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/6290070/Ys_VI_The_Ark_of_Napishtim_English_WinAll

>>263475060
There's a PC port for it right? Is it good? I know I've seen torrents for the PC ver.

>>263462132
But there's Bravely Default, anon. Maybe the story's not as amazing as CT but it's still a fun JRPG.

>>263474967
I didn't count SS because it's not an RPG by any stretch of the imagination and the rest are hardly new

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>>263462132
Skies of Arcadia is exactly what you're looking for.

>>263474919
Your ctrl + F is broken.

>>263475138
>PC port
A hurr durr durr

>>263471823
>What is Xenoblade

A shitty overrated game only for weebs.

>>263475026
Not that guy there wasn't that much else in P4. It was a lot of waifushit, a little murder mystery, and way too many randomly generated shitty dungeons.

I didn't play P3. I only played P4 because I'm a Megaten fan and my girlfriend begged me to play it.

>>263475165
It's also ugly as sin, even for a game that old.

Where do I start if I want to get into Ys?!

>>263475095
Oh, you're talking about them changing the dialect, not about missed information like the knight in the first town.

Why the fuck would you care about that?

>>263475095
oh god make it stop with that ye olde English

was the Japanese version written completely in Kansai-ben in comparision?

>>263474949
Wouldn't Enix be kill too though?

>>263475132
>http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/6290070/Ys_VI_The_Ark_of_Napishtim_English_WinAll

Ah there it is, thanks mandingo. Is the PC ver. any good? I had it for PS2 IIRC.
>>263475231
Isn't it a port?

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>>263474949
>tfw there wont be another Valkyrie Profile on the Ps3 revolving around Hrist
>Tf when Star Ocean is dead
>Tf when Enix wouldn't survive on their own unless they teamed up with Nintendo or Namco.
Fuck.

>>263475164
>the rest are hardly new

They're still "since TTYD", which is what I was talking about.

>>263475279
Then your definition of waifushit must be retardedly broad

>>263475304
You start by playing the games.

>>263475304
Origins.

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>>263475293
The graphics really aren't that bad. If you let a thing like that deter you, you'll be missing out on a fantastic game.

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>>263475328
>Oh, you're talking about them changing the dialect
>Why the fuck would you care about that?
I quit. Go fuck yourself.

>>263474781
>Names are changed to fit the names used in every other version post Warrior-to-Quest switch.
>Original names weren't 100% accurate to Japanese version either.

What, are you upset that they changed Healmore to Midheal too?

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>>263475352
PS2 version has some extra features like a new series of dungeon that lets you get more gold exp and resources, a new delicious fairy to guide you through that dungeon, some cheat codes, and changed sprite graphics to 3D, as well as that infamous CGI opening

>>263475304
I say release order but personally I started with Seven and went nuts with the order

>>263475304
The first one?

>>263467139
>Shame that these days Square-Enix gives no shits about localizing the newer Dragon Quest games like the ones on the 3DS.

They've genuinely tried. For some retarded reason Nintendo keeps saying no, even when Square America said they'd pay for the localization efforts themselves.

>>263475487
Which one?! There's so many.
>>263475540
Cheers.

>>263474919

Try again, retard. I saw this posted a couple of times.

>>263473017

>don't give Enix games any marketing
>put 300 million dollars into advertising Final Fantasy VII and XIII

Gee, I wonder why Enix games don't sell.....

And even then, Dragon Quest as a series sells better than most JRPGs over here. Between 400,000-1.5 million copies. SquareEnix just has totally bogus expectations that every game has to sell better in the west than in Japan. Which the only series they have that does that is Final Fantasy. Yet Chrono or Dragon Quest selling over 1 million is considered 'bad'.

>>263473829

Squaresoft was funneling money from its other series (Chrono, mana, saga, Xenogears, etc) to make some of the most expensive games in gaming history during the PS1 era. And aside from Final Fantasy VII and VIII, the other games didn't meet their rediculous sales expectations.

Instead of diversifying their games and making a dozen different series, they started to quickly kill all their other IPs (named above) and focus even harder on Final Fantasy. And this led to massive issues and caused them to have to merge with Enix.

And then after merging with Enix, they continued to kill all their other IPs and focus even harder on Final Fantasy. So yes, Square's policies now are the exact same as before the merger.

>>263475660
Try production order!!! Except for the ones that have remakes..!

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>>263468216
>good adventure/road trip RPG
Grandia

>>263475339
>was the Japanese version written completely in Kansai-ben in comparision?
Literally nope.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/nes/563408-dragon-warrior/faqs/42955

>>263462132

This is what FF9 was until the last disc. The first disc was my absolute love of gaming. I played it over and over again also because disc 2 fucked up for me but so what

>>263471392

DQ9 sold over 1mil overseas alone

dunno why square enix hates us but there's clearly a market

>>263474781
>Eyeder
Druin you fuck.

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If you want a fun adventure play Breath of Fire III and IV.

>>263473310

>Jesus christ. They aren't. They're remakes and spin-offs.

Translation: I only care about main series games.

>Are you even trying to help support DQ where you live by spreading the word or or anything?

What the fuck? I have gotten tons of people I know into Dragon Quest. What does this even have to do with your original argument? Are you just deflecting now?

>Every DQ fan I meet is too busy playing other games than being informed or interested in talking about DQ games.

Just like you are proving you don't know jack shit about Dragon Quest? And you don't care about any game in the series except Dragon Quest XI? You really are the last person who should be talking.

>>263475628
I thought you were complaining about the translation actually being bad, not about them not reusing the exact same script they used before.

>>263468216
Skies of Arcadia is probably the best "adventure/road trip" RPG I've played.

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>people actually defend painful faux-old-english translations
Toppest of keks.

>>263475642
Oh what the fuck? Is it superiour to the PC version? CBA getting the PS2 version.

>>263476208
It is bad.

>>263475304
I don't know what's the perfect order, but I played I&II>Oath>Origins>Ark and it was fine. Origins is connected to I&II by location and the rest by protagonist so choose what's more important for you. But tbh, as long as you play I&II first it's cool, there isn't really any story connection between the games (except that Origins happens 700 years before I&II and explains some shit). Some say it's better to play Oath before Origins, because other way around you would play on the inferior engine second (Origins), but that's up to you to decide.

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>>263476252
>Complaining that a game about dungeons and dragons uses "thou".
>Baneposting
>Too much of a beta faggot to even quote the posts you're complaining about.

>>263476383
But ark came before oath and origins, you fucknut.

>>263475293
Nigga what? It's not a graphics powerhouse, but that's because it was released on the fucking dreamcast. And while it may not be GRAPHICALLY noteworthy, it is downright dripping with STYLE, which is far more important.

>>263475654
Pretty sure some people at Nintendo have been trying to get them to bring them west but Square-Enix keeps ignoring it in favor of doing fuck all.

>>263475941
If Square-Enix would just do some fucking marketing for the games like Nintendo did handling Dragon Quest IX I'm pretty sure they'd sell pretty dang well. Then again, you still have to deal with them having way too high of expectations for what "successful" means to them.

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>>263475660
best order in terms of gameplay progression
Ys Chronicles
Ys IV the Dawn of Ys
Ys V the Lost City of Kefin
Ys VI the Ark of Napishtim
Ys III the Oath in Felghana
Ys Origin
Ys Seven
Ys Celceta
Ys 5.5 (not released yet)

>>263476538
>a game about dungeons and dragons
Except it doesn't do that in the original, jackass.
see >>263475842

i just wish devs would quit making shitty real-time action games and just calling them "RPGs"

call them "action RPGs" so i know they're shitty casual fuckfests that anyone with a brain would stay away from

>>263476538
Who are you and why are you projecting?

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No matter how many people on /v/ bitch about its name, I am earnestly excited for Mother 4 because it looks like this type of game and nobody fucking makes them anymore.

>>263476208
Please stop arguing with him.
He's a NES era DQ fanboy, and is just as pedantic and irrational as you'd expect. He will never recognize that the differences are minor and refuses to accept that people who have different opinions aren't automatically shit.

>>263468679
>suikoden
>RPG

More like scripted-you-lose-battle-simulator

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>>263476275
PS2 version has more content, but I prefer PC version's sprite graphics

and I heard that PS2 version is not running at 60 fps

>>263476746
Why do people go berserk every time Mother 4 comes up anyways?

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>>263467139
>square enix will never resurrect brainlord and beat the shit out of zelda.
To hell with jrpgs, give me back my top down adventure/dungeon crawler.

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>>263476650

it's funny because they're giving us bravely second saying default exceeded expectations when it sold less that 9

>>263474639

Dude, it's not gonna flop. It's fucking impossible, Square has hyped this game up literally too much.

And even if it did, you know what will NEVER flop and will make back every goddamn penny? KH3. Time-space itself would have to warp and twist itself in order to create an alternate reality where that game wasn't a massive success.

>>263475703
>Squaresoft was funneling money from its other series (Chrono, mana, saga, Xenogears, etc)

Stop pulling shit out of your ass.

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>>263476802

>2 scripted battles
>OMG ITS FORCED GAMEPLAY!

You're an idiot. Every RPG has at least one battle you lose because of story. And Suikoden doesn't come anywhere near something like Square or Bioware games in that regard.

>>263476796
>replying to yourself

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wait for Sen no Kiseki II which is pretty much the Russian Communist Revolution in reverse featuring illuminati

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All I'm hearing is "JRPGs aren't exactly like they were when I was a child, why don't they make more of the games I played as a child even though I'm not a child anymore and children today wouldn't play them?"

>>263476275
I don't know much about the PC version, but I have heard the PS2 one is MUCH better than the PSP port at the very least (which, unlike Chronicles, Oath, and Seven, was not handled by XSEED).

>>263476658
>Ys 5.5 (not released yet)
Expert?

>>263476546
Well fuck me then, I'm retarded. I'd still do Oath before Ark, because is kinda closer to I&II, cuz Dogi is there and all...

>>263474127

Yes Final Fantasy is dead.

>>263476746
This, I don't care if it's fanmade it's something actual devs haven't been making in ages.
That reminds me, when's the Goat-Mom game coming out? That was good too.

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>>263475703
>. So yes, Square's policies now are the exact same as before the merger.
I see your point. I concede. I'm not happy with it but i have no hard facts to prove my point at the moment.

>>263477132

With more girls on top f it,so it's exactly the same as every other JRPG then.

Also jesus christ that retarded weapon design

>>263477082

Many people left Square because they were doing it. Masato Kato, Ito and Brownie Brown have all pointed out how Square took money and resources from their projects and put them into other Final Fantasy games.

>It seems the only options these days are "Super Kawaii Slice of Life Cute Girls Doing Cute Things: The Game" or "The Edge of Darkness: Dark Like My Soul Edition".

>"Super Kawaii Slice of Life Cute Girls Doing Cute Things: The Game"

It's like you can't even read the OP's fucking post, dumbass.

>>263477132
>All those animoo girls
I'm so fucking bored of this goddamn shit.

>>263477060
I'm just glad that when Default did well, someone at Square in an interview said "oh shit, you guys like classic jrpgs? Why didn't you just tell us?"

>>263477082
Not him, but it's a known fact that some money from XG was taken to finish FF8 on time, and FF9 was severly limited in scope because they were making Spirits Within at the time.

>>263476875
So its just more content, not anything vital? Cause if so I'll just roll with the PC ver, I enjoy the sprites too.

>>263476796
Fuck you nigga, I don't care for the NES-era except for 4, and the best translation of the lot is the GBC.
>the differences are minor
Take a pike up your ass, cuntrocket.
I've gone in detail as to how the mobile port is even worse than the past variants.
https://archive.moe/v/thread/263277518/#q263289781

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>>263476976
>To hell with jrpgs, give me back my top down adventure/dungeon crawler.

Rest in Piece, i'll miss you.

>>263477373
Are you aware that JRPGs are from Japan?

>>263476976
Developer's dead, nigga.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Produce_%28company%29

the Masoukishin series is probably a better case of the old "going on an adventure that turns slowly into saving the world" type of jrpg OP misses.

But they'll never leave Japan. Shame for OP, dat music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY75oR77pf0

>>263477582

Are you aware that origin doesn't excuse shitty design?

>>263477115
Not him, but that doesn't happen in every JRPG. I remember in Tales of the Abyss that it's possible to beat Asch during the first fight with him (provided you have a decent level, skills acquired, items, and know what you're doing; NG+ can be helpful towards that end) even though he can easily kick your ass and is more than expected to do so, and winning even changes the scene afterward a bit. But yeah, those do happen pretty often.

>>263477060
Square-Enix just seems to pick and choose what a game doing well means to them. For some games, they seem to consider a few hundred thousand sales great, while for others getting a million or so it's considered inadequate (and in the case of Chrono Trigger's DS port, and million sales worldwide wasn't considered enough of a potential market to make more games in the series).

>>263477386
>choking FF9 to fund spirits within
I know hindsight and all, but wow was that a mistake

>>263477163
No, he means the one coming out for Vita and PS4.

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>>263477449
Alma's dungeon in the ps2 version has some exposition, but I haven't played it so I don't know how it ties into the plot. PC version feels complete already

You can always use cheat engine for maxiumum gold and emelas since the last upgrade is a huge grind

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>>263477582
Are you aware there are Japanese games without shitty Animoo girls plastered all over them?

>>263476728
>Projecting
Yes, I am projecting that he is Baneposting.

>>263477341
Good luck finding any interview that even remotely suggests that.

>>263477386
>it's a known fact that some money from XG was taken to finish FF8 on time

No, it's bullshit rumor concocted by butthurt fanboys over how shitty disc 2 is. Takahashi is notorious for going past deadlines and over budget. The game he directed right after Xenogears had even more cut content without the FF8 boogeyman to resort lay blame on. He's even admitted that he tends to give up and stop trying halfway through projects while making Xenoblade. All of Xenogears faults rest with him, not some shitty lie.

>>263477767

I know the movie itself is bad, but visually it STILL looks really good. That is an unbelievable accomplishment for a 3D film, especially one that was trying to make realistic-looking characters.

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>>263477605
THAT IS NOT DEAD WHICH CAN ETERNAL LIE

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>>263477732
Gotta pander to them otaku and fujoshi, nigga.

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Hardly rpg, still an adventure non the less.

>>263477770
Well then, I'm off to play the PC ver. Thanks lads.

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>>263477582
>It's Japanese so there has to be anime girls in it!!
No.

MMORPG is the next step anon just take it.

>>263477909

Too bad that doesn't make it good.

Just like visuals don't make new final fantasys good.

>>263477770
>470 damage
>214 max hp
Oh, Ys.

Currently playing Xenoblade and that is pretty much a really huge adventure.
The scale of that game is crazy.

>>263477770
Falcom was not responsible for the creation of Alma's Trials. So it's not canon.

>>263477961

Jesus christ.

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>>263477863
Say that to my face Bane.

>>263477770
I wish recettear's dungeon crawling was like this.

>>263477768
How is that 5.5 when it isn't set in Xandria and has nothing to do with Kefin?

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>>263476948
Starmen-tier faggots think the title is "disrespectful" or something.

Literally no other game fanbase is that autistic, but I guess it comes with the territory when an acclaimed fiction writer comes along and makes a game franchise that's the closest anything in videogames has come to having artistic/literary merit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY35y2iL1d8

>>263477213
Undertale? They're still working on it.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1002143342/undertale/posts/970358

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>>263478120

Yes but at least film has the excuse of being a visual medium first and foremost.

>>263478073

Yes, and?

>implying Cosmic Star Heroine won't save the vidya

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>>263478312
I had no idea i could like a game like this.
Also Fortune Summoners was really good.

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>>263477992
happy trails, you might want to consult a guide for which dungeon to go since Napishtim can get really obscure at times

you can go to almost all dungeons early on, but you won't be able to kill some enemies due to level differences or needing certain items

>>263478437

Instead of naming it Mother 4 when it fucking isn't, he could have came up with his own name while taking inspirations and cues from Mother 4.

So yeah, I'd be pissed too.

>>263478403
The game is set in-between Ys5 (Kefin) and Ys6 (Ark). On top of that, there is a game called Ys Seven.
It's about all we can call it, since we don't know the official title, but especially because there are about 3 or so years that happen between 5 and 6.

>>263478646
>people like to claim it's a celebration of capitalism
>she's doing it literally because the only other option is child slavery

>>263478602
>Zeboyd
Can I just shoot myself instead?

go and play Xenoblade, I got that adventure feeling from it and it didn't try to be all deep or edgy (though it does introduce some philosophy near the end)

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>>263477961
God fucking damn it.
>>263478437
>Undertale? They're still working on it.
Cool.
>>263478448
>Replicant
>Canon
>Anime girl
>Anything other than something to fap to and never bring up again
Nah, Gestalt's best Nier.

>bitching about SoL cute girl games being all there is now
How many are there outside of CHshit, garbage unlocalized Vita games, and series like Atelier which have been around since the PS1? Don't even know what the edge comment is about.

>>263477717

Mah nigga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZNp9zidauM

>>263462132
Bravely Default doesn't fall under any of those.

The actual adventure isn't anywhere near as fun or grand as Chrono Trigger, but it's still good.

>>263478935
>judging Replicant when you probably haven't even played his game
>saying it's not canon when it's Yoko's preferred of the 2 Niers
>not playing DoD3 and finding out that both Niers are canon because of the ending, it's just alternate timelines

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>>263478691
>he could have came up with his own name while taking inspirations and cues from Mother 4

It's a literal fangame though.

>>263468778
>Kiseki

God fuck Falcom for making only these games now, their old output used to so much better and more diverse

>>263478935
>replicant
>not canon
Guess which Nier is in official Drakengard artworks that feature all the characters from the franchise?

>>263479223

Don't care, the Halloween mod doesn't call itself Mother 4.

>>263478920
What's wrong with Zeboyd games?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E87VBBnB4Z0

>>263479198
>>263478935

Aren't Replicant and Gestalt just different ages of the same person? Because young Gestalt looks exactly like Replicant.

>>263479005
Nigga wont die; Also the only Villian./protagonist to Fuck with Black Hole Tech. Truly is a person you dont want to fuck around with.

>>263479001
I have a better question, how many games like Legend of Legaia, Final Fantasy IX, Vagrant Story, Mother or Chrono Cross exist now amongst the anime shit?
>>263479198
>>263479251
>Japan hating on Gestalt
No fucking taste, no wonder their games industry is stagnating.

>Western games are drowning in men in suits and social justice bullshit
>Japanese games are drowning in pandering and mediocrity
Save us based Slavs.

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>>263479223
So is this garbage

>>263462132
Since Chrono Trigger, the only game with adventuring that satisfied me was Xenoblade and DQ8.

How many years has it been already.

>>263479562
>I have a better question, how many games like Legend of Legaia, Final Fantasy IX, Vagrant Story, Mother or Chrono Cross exist now amongst the anime shit

Utterly cliche-ridden games?
Everywhere, they just never leave Japan.

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>>263479238
Falcom did make Nayuta no Kiseki which is pretty much Zwei 3 with Kiseki name for brand recognition

we don't know what they'll make after Ys 5.5. Mostly likely Kiseki Calvard arc.

>>263462132

Just play Trails in the Sky on Steam or GoG.

>>263479714
So there is a game in Japan like Vagrant Story? If so let me know what it is so i can import it.

>>263479714

>look at me I'm a contrarian faggot

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>>263479858
You'll either send him to eternal Winter 2014 or motivate him to learn Japanese.

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>>263479714

>>263479562
>hating on Replicant

Gestalt and Replicant are the exact same goddamn person, you'd know that if you actually played the game.

>both just want to protect their daughter/sister more than anything
>both sold their bodies to make money to buy medicine for her
>both went on the same journey and fucked over the whole world in the ending
>both think fishing is totally bitchin

One is just a teen while the other is a middle-aged man (who when we see him in his teen, looks exactly like like Replicant)

>>263477451
I agree that the GBC version is the best, but you're absolutely irrational.

Changing the names to fit the current naming conventions of the series is a fucking non-issue, as is using dumb "ye olde english" as a throwback to early translations of the series.

The port has a few issues, but some of the ones you reported are actually erroneous. The Dragonlord only using fire is seriously just horrendously bad luck on your side: I had him alternating when challenging him on my first attempt. I actually had an attempt where he did only use fire, but that only happened once. His attack values being slightly bugged is legit, though.

It's definitely not on par with the GBC version, but I'd hardly call it the worst version or an abomination. It's far more bearable than the original.

>>263479352
But it uses the Mother name so it must be disrespectful!

>>263462132
SERIOUS GAMES

SERIOUS CASH

>>263479889
I wouldn't know, I never played VS

>>263480346
And the fact he's a middle aged guy makes his version so much fucking better.
If I wanted to play as a broody twink that goes on an adventure I'd play any other fucking JRPG I could find or Zelda.

>wanting a fun adventure
>not playing SRW

Yeah it's full of animu cliches out the ass. No shit, it has the plotlines and characters of mecha shows. It's also exactly what you're asking for.

>>263480432

No it doesnt.

Way to display your retardation for thousands of people.

>>263480507
Shame, i would recommend it but game play wise it didnt age all that well. The story is good though if you're interested in Ivalice.

>>263480702

Clearly not, it's filled with anime cliches out the ass.

>>263462132
Chrono Trigger is a one of a kind game. it was made by the A-Team of RPG makers in its time

>>263476538
>>263477863
>someone posts a picture
>starts shitposting
Autism.

>>263480669
>And the fact he's a middle aged guy makes his version so much fucking better.

Why? Why does his age make him inherently better? Give me a reason beyond "I hate teenagers/pretty boys", a legitimate reason as to why being older makes him a better person?

The only argument I've heard is "a brother can't love his sister as much as a father loves his daughter unless he's fucking her", which I don't like to project, but seems like it comes from people who don't have the best relationships with their own siblings.

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>>263480743
>retardation

Chrono trigger is basically the Bioshock Infinite of its day.

>walking simulator

>extremely dull and oversimplified combat

>convoluted plot about time travel and dimensions and shit

>2deep4u dialogue and gutted, censored story elements

Nostalgia is the only thing holding this game in its high graces

>>263480910
Did you play the games?

And you can't avoid the cliches when you use the shows that had the cliches. Especially shows that were intentionally designed to use every cliche in the book

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADagjDi7MqU

>>263481183
4/10

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>>263480507
>I never played VS
>Calls it "Utterly cliche-ridden"
>>263481105
Because it's something I don't see in a lot of JRPGs, it's a breath of fresh air to me and I find it more enjoyable.
I'm sorry I insulted your boyfriend, Anon.

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>>263481183
>alogue and gutted, censored story elements
>Nostalgia is the only thing holding this

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>>263480942

And even then, most of the reason it was so good is because Yuji Horii and Masato Kato were head of the story and development. The Final Fantasy team was mostly regulated to creating the graphics and game engine. Which they're very good at, but suck at story and gameplay.

That's why Chrono Trigger was one of the best games of all time. It was a Final Fantasy game where the Dragon Quest team was head of design and story.

>>263462132
>"The Edge of Darkness: Dark Like My Soul Edition".
I came here to say that this made me smirk.

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Maybe you're just not looking in the right places.

>>263481910
Not cool, Anon.

>>263481492
>Because it's something I don't see in a lot of JRPGs, it's a breath of fresh air to me and I find it more enjoyable.
That doesn't make him a better character, it just says you prefer him. You're confusing opinion with fact.

>>263480942

Unless you know, you've played Live-A-Live by the same team a year earlier. Then it doesn't seem as unique. Or as good.

>>263482153
Fine, if all I can offer is opinion, I'll confer to you Anon.
Enlighten me on how Replicant is factually superior.

>>263482308

It has a unique concept but I really wouldn't say it was better than Chrono Trigger.

>>263482389

He's not superior or inferior. That was the point I was making. They're the same character.

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>>263481492

Plenty of JRPGs have older characters. It wasn't unique to that game.

>>263482505

He's not the main character retard.


Name 5 JRPGs where the main chracter is above the age of 21.

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If you can't find jrpgs that have the stuff you want in them, then I'm sorry, it's your own goddamn fault. You're not putting in the effort to look for them, you're not scouring stuff like siliconera to see what is out then, and you didn't bother to learn moon.

>inb4 learning a dying language to play video games

You wanna play the games you like or not? Because I don't want to make a hipster-sounding statement, but generally only what's popular gets localized. Why? Because popularity guarantees sales, and companies don't like to take risks anymore.

>>263467969
Say, what game is that?

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>>263482673

>Name 5 JRPGs where the main chracter is above the age of 21.

Dragon Quest V
Suikoden III
Valkyria Chronicles
Nier
Any souls game

>>263483031
out there*

>>263483108

Hugo was under 21 though and was the obvious canon choice.

>>263483108
Geddoe best protagonist.

>>263483031

>just learn Japanese
>if you don't then you don't deserve to care about JRPGs

Stop making this stupid argument. We shouldn't have to learn another language just because Japanese companies won't bring [x] game over. Series like Dragon Quest sell millions. I'm not going to learn Japanese and support SquareEnix just because they're too greedy to bring the games over.

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>>263483031

Learning a language just to import expensive mediocre games with no onnovation is borderline retarded.

The real answer is you should all stop playing JRPGs and get some fucking taste.

/thread

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>>263462132

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOmgIZZuI68

Them feels man, the feels...

>>263483241

Doesn't change the fact that Geddoe was older than what you said. And Suikoden III has 4 main characters. Not just Hugo.

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>>263482673
Nier
Shadow Hearts
Lost Odyssey
Front Mission
Nobunaga's Ambition

>>263483567

I was just saying.

>>263482673
Dart from Legend of Dragoon was 23 if I remember correctly.

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>>263483241

Hugo was just the 'canon choice' to be the heir to the True Fire Rune. That doesn't take away the fact that Chris, Geddoe and Thomas are also main characters. A game can have more than one main character.

>>263482673

FFXII, Vaan was an irrelevant piece of furniture.

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>>263483946

Vaan was great and people need to stop shitting on him.

>>263483935

No need to be upset, I was just saying the plot heavily favors the younger guy.

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>>263462379

God, to think there's people who get up early in the morning to feed this faggot.

>I just want a fun adventure, /v/.
People here already give the game a lot of shit but I think FFXV will be exactly that.

>>263483406
you're not entitled to them either when shooters have a higher chance of profit in the West than obscure jrpgs without brand recognition

>>263483410
>people actually dismiss all non-english games or an entire genre
I wish I could be this close-minded.

>>263483598
Destiny of an Emperor is more of a JRPG than Nobunaga.

>>263482673

Rance 5D
Rance VI
Sengoku Rance
Rance Quest
Rance IX

but if it always being the same character doesn't count

Yakuza series
FF13 (you never said it had to be good)
Star Ocean 4 (yes, Edge is actually 21, he turns it during the game)
FFIV
Lost Oddysey
Legend of Dragoon
Tales of Vesperia
Tales of Xillia 2 (Ludger turns 21 in-game)
Disgaea 4 (ignoring that he's hundreds of years old, Valvatorez is physically in his late 20s)
SMT Strange Journey
Super Mario RPG
Parasite Eve
Shadow Hearts
Exit Fate

>>263483406
>blaming it on square

At what point did I ever say Square was the company in question?

>>263482673

>age is the only important factor in characters

Cecil in Final Fantasy IV is over 20 years old. He's still a shit character. So are tons of WRPG characters who are 'old'.

>>263484309

Nobody is ever going to stop shitting on that game just because of the way the characters look so it's useless to even bring it up.

>>263483406
Then pirate them. Not like DQ localizations are comprehensible even when they happen.

>>263484058
Its good to see that people actually payed attention to the game.

>>263484463

I said OVER 21, not 21 exactly.

But still there

>>263468240
Do your fucking homework, kiddo.

Maybe JRPGs would have more sympathy to older characters if the real older generation in Japan wasn't consistently fucking up the government and bringing down their lives.

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>>263462132
>adventure
>Not a nice story with post game
>Not about getting so strong that you will be able to fight the REAL final boss
SRPG's kicking JRPG's in the nuts.

>>263485248

Do my dick work bitch.

>>263485331

That shit is beyond retarded.

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>>263485331

While I agree, srpgs ARE jrpgs, they just use a grid-based tactical battle system. Outside of how the game plays, they are jrpgs in every other sense.

>>263485331
>Numbers so high they start meaning nothing: the series.

you want a good adventure? Play Ni No Kuni. no one ever brings this up. Also, give me some criticisms too.

>>263485546
I never realized the Freedom was so small.

>>263485668

We brought it up at the beginning of the thread and concluded it's for babies and not very fun.

>>263462132
Ni no Kuni
Dragon Quest

Especially DQ 9. The story is light and it's more about making your own heroes and then adventuring forth.

I feel the same way though. JRPGs now are basically anime episodes.

>>263485668
should have read the thread more, sorry

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>>263485668

AI is retarded
Game is completely broken if you know about the Dinoceros
Battle system is slow and has way too many times where you have to stop what you're doing
Story isn't particularly good. even if you don't see the twist coming
Plot honestly should have stopped at defeating Shadar, they didn't need to give the White Witch a giant sympathetic backstory

>>263485769

That chat isn't properly scaled. This is

>>263485331
DISISGAY

>>263486120
chart*

>>263467625
>“At the current stage, there are no talks about making Dragon Quest XI for smartphones. I believe that there’s still plenty left to overcome before we release a proper sequel for smartphones.”
http://app.famitsu.com/20131223_285498/
>He reiterated his previous statement that it is not being for mobile devices, but he also added that it’s also not being made for handheld consoles, but they’re currently developing it for the home console.
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/06/12/dragon-quest-xi-development-will-made-home-consoles/


If it's not coming to mobile devices or handhelds, and he wants it on the big screen, any dumbass can figure it out.

Stop being a turd.

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>>263484621
>muh fujoshi pandering japanese boyband protags
I really don't get why this is such a big deal, we're not even the target audience and this is nothing new. Besides, only one, maybe two of them looks anything like that.

>>263485579
>implying they mean nothing
someone needs to fight Baal.

>>263481094
>autism
Autism.

>>263462132
Go play Radiata Stories

>>263486609
>we're not even the target audience

You say that, but aside from the character designs it seems like Nomura wanted to make a FF of the style liked by the people that started with VII, his game.

Say what you want about his fashion style and his pretty boy characters, but Nomura doesn't make bad games. Sure they may have retarded plots (KH series), but they've always had solid gameplay.

>>263486609

I don't know and I personally don't give a fuck as long as we can actually fucking explore shit again.

>>263462132
They want the anime audience. So of course JRPG's are going to reflect the anime that's popular today.


A perfect example is Legend of Heroes. Look at the earlier games and look at the games now.

>>263484309
As long as it's not Hallway Simulator XIII.

>>263484058

Goddamn man, you actually made me do a slow clap irl.

>>263486609
I think we're definitely a large market when it comes to Final Fantasy, considering that between NA and Europe we usually account for around 50% or more of sales.

>>263487418
Remember when everyone hated Nomura and would go "belts and zippers" every time he's mentioned?
Remember how his games hold up way better than anything else Square puts out these days?