It's not even a challenge for Maxwell.
>Microsoft ruining the franchise.
more like 343
For an unstoppable "flood" of little scurrying shits that steal bodies and tech, they kinda do fuckall to shields.
You'd think the forerunners would work on getting really good shield technology, on a cosmic scale, instead of creating a set of doom bomb planets, on a cosmic scale.
What awful writing.
343 thougt they could make a good halo if they try a call of duty
343 learned at least, they want to change now and i think they can
Microsoft just let them to do what they want
i blame nintendo for this shitty smash roster sakurai a shit
>literally just ripped of nids with less variation and intelligence
>slower weaker than nids
Wait, didn't the Flood beat the Forerunners by corrupting some of their AI buddies?
The only good Halo games were 1 and 2. 3 was a letdown for any long running Halo fan and after that it was all downhill.
Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that the story of Halo 4 is a disgrace to the cannon?
Elites, and masterchief, have shields that pop after taking a few dozen infection forms.
The issue isn't that, the issue is the forerunner race focusing their efforts and technology into building a set of universe exploding bombs, instead of perfecting the shield technologies that clearly fucked up the flood so easily without requiring any effort.
I'd guess a plant like lifeform would be able to beat the flood. No nervous system to take over, relatively little biomass if infected, non/semi mobile. Plus, plants are really good at adapting defensive abilities.
>Halo 4 ended up being better than Destiny
yes, exactly that
in the short stories halo book, there was a part that went over what happened with cortana when she was with the gravemind, and the gravemind literally made her be able to have human senses and feel and touch things, and then made her go through the pain of all the species the flood had tooken over
>Halo, Halo 2
>infection forms are just weird onion things that jump on people and cause them to fall over after a while
>they leap at someone, and the guy will struggle with it, trying to get it away, before it forcibly bores a hole into their chest and mutates them from the inside as he screams in agony
I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. Hell, I'm not even talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'M NOT talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. I'm talking about SAGE MADARA FUSIONED WITH ELDER GOD DEMONBANE LEGENDARY SAIYAN ABOVE ALL MADARA
Oh god you're right
What a sad time we live in
>the fight that starts after that cutscene
You are five different kinds of retarded.
Pic related, Tyranid units pre-1998. Starcraft releases in the US in 1998 and guess what the next Tyranid set looks like?
It looks like fuck you 7/10 for getting me genuinely mad.
>liked star trek from an early age, preferred borg over other factions
>got int WH40k years later
>liked tyranids, next to orks as favorite race
>lets try out starcraft 2
>zerg are almost instantly my favorite
>realize that all of them are basically hiveminds
why does this always happen
Hell if I know, we're all attracted to certain things. I have a friend who plays Ogres and Tyranids, I guess he just likes the thought of his armies eating people.
As for me, I played Orks in 40k, now here I am playing Lizardmen in Fantasy. I guess I just traded Greenskins for Blueskins
If you want to get technical, the flood is still an alien race. Just because it's a parasitic race doesn't change that.
The flood is a single plague, and can create environments where other forms of rot and decay can thrive. Nurgle is ALL OF THE PLAGUES, if he can't control the flood through being fucking nurgle or through warp interference with the gaymind, nurgle can literally just turn the flood's ideal environments against them.
>Millions upon millions of walking things requiring bullet therapy
>Going across the universe, infecting and taking over everything living
>Every race throughout time has tried to fight them
And no one thought to call the most Serious person in the world
The way AI's work in Halo is the 2 categories
Smart AI and Dumb AI
Smart ones were based on a human brain while the other category is just coded from scratch like AI's are today
Voyager's Elite Force
any of the PC's from RE in 4 and after
any cosmic entity from any game and the corresponding protagonists that defeated them
Let's list the things that can defeat everything
No0 Powerman: powerman's power is being better than anyone else for the sake of ending nerd arguments and therefor wins every one of these threads
No1 'God' from most religions, literally cannot be beaten, perfect in every way, only can be beaten by powerman
No2 Maxwell from scribblenauts, can freeze time and rewright the rules of everything, like god but only sees linear time by default
No3 God Empreror of Mankind at his prime AKA superman AKA Batman with planning time AKA whatever character, given a certain situation or circumstance can win anything
This is true.
But you know what? I actually want to believe 343 will do a better job with the next one.
They just have to remove sprint, and perks, and basically anything that dumbs down the game to CoD.
I thought anything that wasn't organic could defeat them? I forgot what made Chief and Johnson invulnerable to Flood Spores... but if humans had discovered that earlier they could've rigged more people to be like that I guess.
I forgot almost everything about the Halo lore so forgive me :(
Wouldn't anything with even a basic hasmat suit beat these things? I mean I've never played any of the halo games but seems like you wouldn't be able to do much against something you can't infect.
>all that I see
>I shall devour
Considering these things could wipe out a species that was basically flying liquid, infecting a metroid would be impossible.
>but the ing possessed them in prime 2!
1: possession by ing is different than infection by flood
2: those were the weak ass Tallon IV metroids. I'm talking the SR-388 metroids that even the space pirates new better than to fuck with.
and we all knew they had vapor for brains.
I dont think Grunts can be infected. The Flood needs a host body that has a nerve system and enough calsium to support the infection form. This is why creatures like Lekgolo cant be infected.
Also any healer in a fantasy game with a cure disease spell.
Also anyone smart enough to give the people fighting low level poisons and drugs.
Also any species that actually functions in the real world "Accelerates Evolution" my ass. Where does that genetic information come from? The same place the Hulks extra mass?
>he thinks extraterrestrials conduct their life like humans do
Well, they're gone for Arena multiplayer. It hasn't been confirmed whether other gametypes like BTB will have them or not.
Grunts and Jackals get used to make Carrier forms or just general biomass to use fo spraying flood poop all over everything
Everything in Halo universe looks like sprang from a children coloring book which was rejected because people who prepared insisted on packing different hues of shit instead of crayons.
Every mention of the removal of those things is always followed by "Arena". There might be a casual mode that has those things.
Either way, I'm just happy there's a no bullshit mode.
Yet am I right in thinking that even in the 40k universe, humanity is soon-to-be-absolutely fucked?
Like the whole setting that we know of is of the final last gasp of humanity before something, most likely tyranids, or necrons, or something, just wipes them all out.
Not when you have a lot of these.
The Imperium of Man survived both the rebellion of the Men of Iron and The Harrowing. The Flood should be a piece of cake for them.
Pretty much this. Nothing the flood can do can ever be worse than the shit that humanity deals with constantly in the 40k universe
The Flash can run fast. How fast? He can run so fast he can appear everywhere in your field of vision. And I'm not just talking illusions; he can accelerate so fast that the seconds it takes for him to be there and not be there simply do not happen. He's always there. I'm not just talking about Earth either. He can appear in every conceivable point in the universe instantly if he so chooses. No ground you say? Fuck ground. He's running on Speed Force. If there's a direction, orientation, angle or spot in the universe not occupied, the Flash he can be there.
But we're not done. Moving so fast Flash gains another ability called the Infinite Mass Punch. I won't blow your brains with science, but once something accelerates past the speed of light it gains infinite mass. So now we've got infinite Flashes, all with Infinite Mass Punches wound up. You cannot block infinite mass, it would crush reality.
But we're not done. The Flash can also traverse time and dimensions (see CoTE), so now he's gone to every possible conceivable point not just in physical existence, but in the 4th dimension such that he is at every conceivable yoctosecond you ever existed. In every single dimension, everywhere, all at once with Infinite Mass Punches.
But we're not done. Just to make sure he lands every hit, all those Flashes can slow down your speed to the point you cannot move a single electron. You weren't fast enough before, but now you can't even think to dodge.
Now you're done. There is no defense in any universe that could stop this. It's absolute bullshit at its finest. And it is completely possible for him. Infinite everything, what are you even going to do? You're gonna stand there and stop existing. The first punch completely erases you from existence.
Never make another power level thread for the rest of your life. The answer is: The Flash.
>there are xenos lovers on /v/
It is a sad time to be man.
They can get infected just fine, and they get turned into carrier forms. Elites, Brutes, and Humans are good for making combat forms.
And the reason the Hunters aren't able to be taken over is because they're a colony of worms in a big suit of armor
Comic book characters are never consistent in their powers and thus shouldn't be included in power level discussions.
Pretty much every race manages to counter the flood once they get set up. It's just hard to do. You see the problem is they are very infectious and in most cases it's the initial scare effect. That being said they almost always get a good infection going.
I've not played Halo 4. Does anybody have the time to lay out why exactly it was so bad?
Lots of things can defeat the flood, lots of things can't. The problem is that in each game's universe there would have to be some kind of introduction and a planned final for the flood.
Technically speaking just about any video game character could probably beat the flood if it was introduced via the proper methods.
RE: A meteorite lands on the planet, Umbrella operatives try to examine it and the scientists become flood, quarantine happens and your guys go in to get the research materials. Finale is a thermonuclear explosion to sterilize the plant.
DMC: Flood gets summoned through random demonic portals, Dante has to kill them all and break the demonic entity that summoned them, which will cause all of the flood particles and entities to get pulled back into their original location in space.
Etc. Anything else is just a fanwank of "MY POWERFUL RACE COULD BEAT YOUR POWERFUL CHARACTER!!!!"
Assuming Big E was back at full strength, then yes.
Good luck with that though. Corpses gonna corpse.
In a single display of psychic might, the Emperor obliterated Horus, body and soul. The blast reverberated in the warp like a nuclear explosion and for one fleeting moment, the chaos gods knew fear. He stopped time locally, only for himself and Jaq Draco when they conversed.
Emps is way above some xenos hivemind in terms of power.
If he's such hot shit, how did he got his ass kicked so many times by so many people?
More or less any threat in the Metroid universe could take the Flood, barring the Space Pirates themselves (they'd be too busy trying to weaponize it or feed the little infection forms).
The X Parasites, the Ing, Phazon, Metroids in general, shit, fucking Samus could take the Flood.
Chief was just protected by his shield. If an infection form touches you with your shield dropped it instakills you.
In Johnson's case I think he had a severe disease that fucked up his nervous system.
Actually, that was just a cover story to hide that Johnson was actually a Spartan I. They had very few enhancements and apparently some of them were genetic because a few could be passed on to their children if they had any.
They are exceedingly rare, and whenever one arises, a Culexus assassin or two are sent to retrieve him/her to be fed to the Golden Throne.
I always wondered that in my mental head-canon, if an Alpha Plus psyker appeared, would they be drafted in as a weapon, or simply fed/slaughtered to the throne?
>tfw love the setting of Warhammer 40k and cannot get enough of it
Would still be completely obliterates by this fruit loop.
The only things I like about Halo are the Hunters and the Elites.
And even those are pretty cliché.
Seriously, Halo was never great, first one was pretty good, then everything else was decent at best.
Damn, those goes my 3-hour daydreams during my deadend nightshift job of my OCdonutsteel insert of an Alpha Plus psyker being dropped into the 40k universe and becoming a hero of the Imperium.
Now I need something else to daydream about for hours.
Halo was a 'Fuck yeah, Humanity!' story. It was about humans nearly being wiped out and through determination and the will to survive humanity survived barely and in a final ditch effort won a war that seemed impossible to win.
Then 343i turned John's luck in to a superpower and the UNSC is somehow more powerful than it was in the war.
Might try that, it's quite nice to just put some psytrance on and zone out for a few hours while getting paid.
That and lucid dreaming each night, means I enjoy zoning out.
The problem with Halo fanbase is that they eat up everything that Bungie/343I says is canon, even thought the whole thing might be retarded. That, and that they are possibly the most butthurt fanbase there can be. One visit to Waypoint forums proves these 2 things.
>The problem with Halo fanbase is that they eat up everything that Bungie/343I says is canon
343 is disastrous with the canon.
But is being able to escape fights a bad thing? You could never really get away from a close quarters battle in previous Halos. And its not as if everyone playing the game can just sanic out the door when their shields drop - by the time they try to run, its usually to late.
And can you explain why having larger maps is bad? I understand that bigger =/= better, but if they're designed with sprinting in mind, is there really a problem
>Destiny's campaign was literally a slightly improved version of Spartan Ops
I'll be honest I did not see that one coming at all
Hopefully 343 can actually make Halo 5 decent, they seem to actually be backpedalling like hell
I dug the armor abilities in Reach, I wouldn't mind keeping sprint as one of them. It was pretty cool and added a lot of depth to the gameplay. In terms of multiplayer, Reach was by far the best.
Sprint should not be anything more though
If you died in Halo, it was most likely your own fault. By having sprint, you can now avoid death by running away, thus causing a better player than you to lose a deserved kill.
As for bigger maps? Well, Halo hasn't really been a game filled with large maps, since 4v4 has been the most popular gametype in all Halo games, and vehicles are pretty much forgotten in BTB because of sprint.
Is this picture relevant to the topic? And who the hell is Sam
Halo 4 had really good music.
Not really. They were also terribly mixed into the game.
The only good tracks were by Kazuma.
>Arrival doesn't loop
This is one of the worst sins committed in Halo 4. That one small section where you actually feel like a super soldier, it was almost perfect but it needed a time limit.
They're all 46. Plus Linda is the best Spartanfu Kelly ashit.
>entire game is structured like aliens 1986
>sergeant johnson is sergeant apone reincarnated
>lines taken directly from aliens
>marine body armor from aliens
>PoA from aliens
BUT WAIT, parasitic alien lifeform?
those designs look like total shit
it's like those doodles made elementary schoolers touched up by professional artist
Monster engine or some shit
>the Spartan 2s finds out Serin ordered the assassination on Halsey
>they find out Palmer was the one who was ordered and wanted to killer
>Kelly and Linda beat the shit out of Palmer
If Halo 5 is just a loop of Kelly and Linda punching Palmer then Halo 5 has done well.
>mfw I just read about how the Emperor will soon be dead
"As the 41st Millennium drew to a close in 999.M41 during what many pessimistic Imperial historians have begun to call the Imperium of Man's Time of Ending, the Adepts of the Adeptus Mechanicus discovered to their horror that the Golden Throne's mechanisms were slowly failing and that they lacked the knowledge to repair its arcane technology. Unless something is done, the Golden Throne's life support systems will eventually malfunction and the Emperor of Mankind will die, surrendering his spirit to the Warp and throwing all of Mankind into darkness once more -- or setting the stage for humanity's final salvation."
>fun fact: Blizzard has to pay GW to use "Space Marine"
What do you mean? Blizzard has never put these two words besides each other, and the concept is as old as a concept of space travel
Anon it doesnt mutate them from the inside, It litearlly forces itself into their body, Then taps into the spine and takes control, Making them a prisoner in thier own body. And /THEN/ it mutates them. And starts getting comfy and moving where it wants to be.
>4 carrier forms
>plasma grenades blowing the fuck up sending shit everywhere
>carrier forms and dead aliens fly all over the fucking place
That's what I loved about CE. One well placed grenade could do more damage than anything else.
Hunters are multiple beings forming into a one. So they could form one planetsized worm and just fly the fuck out. Or slap the fuck out of flood.
this picture is so upsetting
i am just now remembering that entire section of the game
it was so cool
i loved halo 3
i will buy an xbox one just to re-experience the game and play with a new community online.
i dont even care.
>not posting power man.
It's OK anon, I got ya.
Wait, MLP has powerlevel threads?
How does that even look like?
>everything in halo beat their shit up
Yeah by killing everything in the galaxy, and the flood is still out there. The first Gravemind that started the whole mess is still out there
they won't kill the Emprah
they simply won't, because if he dies for good the mankind is boned
if he gets reborn, the hmankind wins
nobody can win
they've written themselves into a corner
Unfair, but true. The flood wouldnt even register to any of the playable races in 40k. Even the tau would just squish them as an afterthought.
Your in a middle of a genocidal war that you are losing and it's impossible for you to capture and study one of the things. Killing everything not them and putting your safe in statics is the best thing to do
the imperium of man would exterminatus anything they touched.
No, no, you are immesurable resources to construct device that kills everything besides the fucking thing that threatens you. That's beyond fucking logic and it's there only because otherwise Halo wouldn't have a plot, just like Mass Effect..
Then it would be flooded with every elite troop physically possible to stop/contain the threat.
Highly unlikely, as even the Necrons can't get close to the place.
In the extremely unlikely event that they do, though...
Again how can you make a giant pulse device that kills the target you know nothing about? Can't capture and study it so you have nothing to go by
But what if they make it to the golden throne
How do you know he will object? Look at his current position, anything is better then that.
What if he wants to get infected and then take over the flood through his infection. Thus becoming the gravemind that leads the flood
That's not how you do crossovers. A single space marine would try to climb some stairs despite warnings from his comrades, only to get trapped next to a Flood thing that would then take him over
>Again how can you make a giant pulse device that kills the target you know nothing about? Can't capture and study it so you have nothing to go by
It's fucking organic so it dies to organic wiping pulses. Not much info needed.
>But what if they make it to the golden throne
I mean really, what the fuck would the Flood even do?
>has a visor, does not need oxygen
>can run 40 miles per hour
>can move so fast the process of time stops
>can move so fast he can passively deflect bullets
>sword cuts through anything
>robotic body so strong and tireless that he can stand on a moving stealth bomber, hold his sword up in the path of another stealth bomber and cleanly cut it in half
He could defeat the entire Flood by himself
Actually I think anyone in Star Trek could science the Flood to death.
Space Orks would probably end up becoming immune to them because WAAAAAAGH!!
Multiplayer is barely decent.
Campaign is fun, but too short.
They fucked up the lore. No more mysterious Forerunners, Didact turned into the shittiest kind of bad guy
Press x to win ending
Dropping bombs becomes harder when they infect your tanks and space crafts.
It's an organic that infects everything. Machines included, your going to need to study that shit through and through.
>pure from xenos influence.
Yet his webway looks an awful lot like the elders. Besides after seeing how badly humanity has been fucking up for the 10 000 years he hasn't been there I think his view of things might change
no it doesn't, Bungie's policy was always:
games > instruction manuals and other Bungie written documentation(Conversations of the Universe/Halsey Journal) > books > other 3rd party shit like Halo Wars > merchandise material (ie action figure blurbs)
The Beta really are not much of a threat. They get beaten by scantily clad anime waifus in mecha and rely almost entirely on numbers. The Tyranids from WH40K for example shit all over them in both individual ferocity and in numbers.
My friend Bruce from social studies.
Master Chief controlled by the player
DooM guy. (Can't die, is actually capable of fighting his way out of hell reliably when killed)
enemies from Muv Luv
cookie cutter evolver race in cookie cutter "organic beasts vs high tec humans" situation except now they infest earth and humans can't really get rid of them
they are fucking pathetic compared to things like Zerg and Nids though
>It's an organic that infects everything. Machines included, your going to need to study that shit through and through.
This aint no ME3 synthesize ending, the organic shit controls machines while interacting and going inside it. If the creatures wipe the machines "die" unless they know how to program viruses but then they are merely machines without hosts anyway.
Are you talking about The Emperor? The Emperor didn't mind some aliens, but his motto regarding them was "play nice and no funny business or I'll smash your face in."
Most of the friendly Alien races were killed by the Men of Iron, though. Afterwards it was mostly ass holes like the Orks and Yu'vath who were left.
The Emperor would be fucking furious at the Imperium if he was to suddenly come back to life. It is almost the exact opposite of what he wanted. You know, it's supposed to be an ironic twist of fate that everything he was working for was fucked up and twisted by the very people he tried so hard to protect.
>posting other m samus that would get triggered at the sight of a bird that see saw many times
I never said they weren't, you said books > games that is wrong.
>"Everything that Bungie has ever approved is canonical. But even then, certain things trump others. In order of canonical influence:
>- The games rank first
>- Published materials (books, comics, soundtrack liner notes etc.) rank second
>- Marketing and PR materials third
>And there's one codicil: the more recent items trump the older ones. So, for example, if some aspect of Halo 3's fiction contradicted Halo 2's, Halo 3's would be the gold standard."
So do you honestly think he would be against the idea to turn the human race into a hivemind where he is the leader?
Not surprising, I'm certain 40K lore has been rewritten many times. as I understand it, humans were part of a Star Trek like Federation with aliens long before the Dark Age of Technology, where most of the fighting was done by The Men of Iron, who were basically Terminators.
The Men of Iron rebelled, and began wiping out organic life, including various alien races and nearly exterminating mankind completely. Some kind of virus was made that devoured metal which was used to defeat the Men of Iron. Afterwards, AI's, now known as Abominable Intelligence were outlawed and robots were replaced with Servitors.
Almost everything was gone, most of humanities technology was lost(which is why it's so important to "discover" forgotten human technology) and mankind had to rebuild. this was the Dark Age of Technology.
Enter The Emperor to rise humanity back to it's former glory. Most of the friendly aliens were gone, so the Emperor had a strict "play nice or fuck off" policy. The Emperor had several goals.
1. Rediscover/Reinvent their lost technology.
2. Spread humanities seed to every corner of the galaxy, so it's numbers may never be extinguished again.
3. Find a way to bypass Warp Interference for space travel. The short term fix was the Navigator Gene, the mid-tier fix was taking all ready existing tech(Eldar Warp Gates) and reverse engineering them, the unrealistic long-term solution was to rediscover or reinvent pre-fall Lightspeed Travel technology, but this would rely on a huge amount of luck or miraculously remaking technology that took humanity over a thousand years to develop.
The organization that would later twist to become the Adeptus Mechanicus had an almost identical plan to point 3 without the Emperor telling them. The Mechanicus would eventually become completely stifled by politics and rigid laws where only the highest level magos could "invent" anything and reverse engineer and "purify" any alien tech.
And look where he is now. I would like to say 'Who is laughing now' but frankly nobody is laughing.
Nope, nuthin' to laugh about....
No wait I was wrong,Chaos is laughing.
I don't get 40K. Right now, humanity is in a stalemate with xenospecies, right?
Then in the past before they deemed improving technology heresy and were advancing and knew how their shit worked, should humanity have been much more powerful? So if it's a stalemate now, in the past it should have been a victory. Why didn't humanity win?
It's funny because it's The Word Bearer's fault The Emperor is deified when The Emperor hated Religion and thought Gods were a crutch for the weak.
Because the "death" of the emperor. he was the single driving factor for the whole crusade. When the Horus Heresy came around, the Imperium descended into stagnation and lost any sort of direction guidance.
He could have handled the situation better. He could have told Lorgar to Stop but noooo he had to order the Ultramarines to destroy one of Lorgars cities and then force Lorgar and his legion to kneel to him, Guilliman, and Malcador the Sigilite
>deemed improving technology heresy and were advancing and knew how their shit worked
About this. It's not that exactly, though there are varying laws and opinions on it because the Imperium is so fucking gigantic... It's mainly a combination of respecting the technologies function over understanding it and only the highest level Tech Engineers being trusted to reverse engineer or invent anything.
The Adeptus Mechanicus, that is, the guys in charge of humanities technology, are utterly stifled by their own in-fighting and politics, and even when there are a few people allowed to make any actual scientific progress and discovery, half the time politics is getting in the way.
Like, one tech priest wanted to reverse engineer that Plasma Reactor blueprint they discovered, so he sabotages/besmirches the guy currently doing it so he can have HIS chance, but then that shady business is discovered by another tech priest and he manipulates events so the Plasma Reactor reverse engineering is put on hold so he can start a completely new experiment he's convinced everyone is a better allocation of time and resources. Meanwhile, another tech priest is hatching his own scheme... ad infinite.
In short, the guys in charge of technology are a combination of religious morons and big fucking babies.
Pretty sure he's a joke/meme character. He is da boss because he is da handsomest or something.
>are all tech priests fucking doc oc's?
Not all of them, but a lot of them are because having multiple limbs is just really fucking useful.
That's not entirely accurate. I'll let someone smarter than me speak.
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Adeptus_Mechanicus#Why Everything is so Grimdark
>Why Everything is so Grimdark
>"The Mechanicus does NOT have the technology. They haven't been living on some fancy paradise planet since pre-Fall. Mars is an anarchic nightmare shithole the moment you leave the safe zones into the kilometres of labyrinthine corridors beneath it full of rogue machinery, self-aware and malevolent AI from before the Fall, and the daemon programs of the Heresy. EVERYTHING in the databases is fucked. The databases are fragmented over the entire surface to the extent that it would be impossible to see one tenth of the total files in the ludicrously extended life of a Magos even assuming that they are completely safe to visit. And they are not.
>The files have been corrupted into madness by the Fall, and the unleashing of the most potent informational warfare systems ever to exist to defeat the Iron Men. Nearly all of Mars was rendered uninhabitable, what they live in now is built on the top of the ruins. They send archeotech expeditions in to find shit, nearly all of them never come back. The sheer number of rogue war machine running around in there is sufficient to rape the mind.
>Then came the Heresy, which was not earth-exclusive. Mars as the second most critical planet in the Imperium was the site of fighting nearly as ferocious as on Terra, with Mechanicus loyalists and Hereteks fighting tooth, nail, and mechadendrite everywhere. Ancient machines were unleashed, viruses both normal and daemonic unleashed into all the computer systems. Nearly every single stored record on Mars was rendered unusable, and those that survived are half the time self-aware and don't like you, or daemonic and actively try to kill you.
If you come back with a schematic, it is almost certainly gibberish, and if it isn't, it's probably corrupted into uselessness. If it does come back whole it was probably malevolently fucked with so that instead of a Lasgun power cell it's a fucking grenade set to detonate the second you finish building it.
>Why do you think they want off-world STCs so damned much if they had them all here? The fucking Heresy is why. Off-world they only have to contend with the Fall's war and its effects on the machinery plus twenty thousand years of degradation with no maintenance. But at least off-world it'll probably just not work instead of actively seeking to kill you.
>Why do you think they seek to placate the Machine Spirit? It's because it exists. The fragments of trillions of self-aware programs, flourishing during the Dark Age of Technology and shattered by Man in his war with the Iron men, imprisoning the few who had not set themselves irrevocably into the machinery, a prison smashed wide open by the Heresy. Everything that can hold programming in the Imperium has a shard of a program in it. EVERYTHING. And you'd better fucking please it or it will do everything in its power to make your day shit.
>Sure, if it's a Lasgun it'll just not work or start shooting off rounds by itself, but if you piss off a Land Raider you can say bye-bye to half a continent. They apply these principles to things without spirits by habit, since they're so used to dealing with tanks that if not talked to just right might go rogue and annihilate the Manufactorum before they can be killed.
I could quote the rest but go read it yourself.
You're stating the barebones version. The Flood were able to use Precursor technology to completely wreck the Forerunners. I'm talking about weapons and constructs able to literally form matter cables called star highways to ride across the universe. They could tether together entire systems in order to have a giant ass society.
A Precursor Gravemind is the one who corrupted Mendicant Bias, the Forerunner defense grid AI. Everything went to shit after that.
I'd say both what you quoted and what I said were largely accurate. They're both different things really.
Over the thousands and thousands of years, the Mechanicus has either fallen to dogma or pettiness.
Technology is regarded as both sacred and highly dangerous, and usually only the most trustworthy and highest ranking Magos are allowed to study and replicate it.
There has actually been some reclamation and progress achieved.
Pretty sure they've even re-discovered the Iron Men SCT at least once which was cause to scramble the fuck-jets.
Commisar Gaunt found em, figured out they were corrupted by Chaos and blammed them. Later found the STC to the Castigator-class titan, a titan even bigger than the Imperator-class and equipped with way better tech, then figured out that way corrupted too and also blammed it.
Though I'm aware that a Land Raider isn't as tough as people say(a Baneblade shits all over it) some machine-spirits are capable of making machines go beyond their limitations and primary functions.
There is a "haunted" ship in the Koronus Expanse owned by a Rogue Trader that people think is haunted but it's just got a helpful Machine Spirit/s(AI) that sometimes helps out. Like warning the crew of something or strengthening the shields or making the laser turrets more potent.
It was an intentional move on the behalf of the Forerunner. The Precursors created Humans and Forerunners to be the shepherds of the galaxy. Forerunners wanted to be the golden child and named themselves to resemble Precursors as well as attempting to reach the same status of godhood. Eventually this led to all out war.
I like how this thread is now about Sci-Fi lore rather than a vs thread.
I'm aware of the fact that mighty Bananablade is actually designated as a light tank
in the STC.
Do you think the actual heavy tanks of golden age ever find their way back into Imperial possesion?
>(a Baneblade shits all over it)
Nigga a Leman Russ is pound-for-pound already the better tank, with a Lascannon and it's standard Battlecannon it#s a giant fucking threat to the LR. And you can prolly build a hundred for the price of one LR.
This doesn't even bring my own favourite tank into play, the Macharius, specifically the Macharius Vanquisher variant. This is my personal boomstick.
What is happening in this picture??
Are they cleaning the webway?
That was a comic about some Admech fucks finding a sealed tomb from the Fall or something. Turns out there's this terrible living machine in it that goes all unstoppable terminator on them, strong enough to slap Astartes around like nothing. They seal the tomb and the Magos stays inside to be mechano-raped for all eternity. That's about the whole story.
A Man of Iron has killed a bunch of people and kidnapped the Tech Priest to interface with his brain/data banks.
Pretty sure that's one page of many, and not stand alone, so it's understandable you wouldn't know what's going on.
You see. This is the shit they need to mention in the game. Jesus fuck halo get your shit together, i still dont know wtf happened to MC when he pushed that button and got baptized by the alien slut.
Probably arguing over who gets to look at it first.
Another Power-Level thread evolves into a 40k lore thread.
>what made them immune
from what I read they weren't immune.. granted I only read the books based on halo 1-3 and ghosts of onyx but from what I understood if the spore taps your spinal column it's gg. Cortana rigged Chief's shields to kill spores, only defense I know of.
The Reapers are shit, though. Thanks Mass Effect 3 for ruining The Reapers.
Sam was the first Spartan II to die in combat. He didn't get shot down like some pussy, oh hell no.
After snapping a bunch of hunters in half with his BARE FUCKING HANDS he taken a fully charged plasma pistol shot to the chest. Now, this was before their armour had shields, so it just melted straight through that shit. Problem was, their escape plan was "jump through cold vacuum of space", and that shit just doesn't work without your tank-grade space suit, so he volunteered to stay behind and punch the shit out of the Covenant ships reactor until it exploded and blew the fuck out of their invasion.
Seriously, every other Spartan sounds way much cooler than the Cheif in their stories.
It's ok, they just need the Orks to believe the emperor will never die.
A group of orks legitimately devout to the Emperor of Mankind would yield incredibly terrifying results
Over powered armor abilitys, sprint, loadouts, and Literally CoD perks. The old games didn't need sprint since you just had a base movement speed and the game was more focused on knowing the map and power weapons spawns than just twitch shooting.
Because the developers started coding the game on 12 computers
I want to see what a non internally devastated 343i can actually do.
so I heard if he dies he gets reborn, he stays alive now cuz he is responsible for humans being able to go through the warp and if he died the loss of warp capability for however brief a time would basically fuck over humanity as all other races would attack. But if he's supposedly so powerful that he can rekt shit when he's reborn... Why not just pull all defenses to holy terra and the closest worlds and pull the plug?