Devil May Cry is actually the epitome of 'artificial difficulty'

buzzword

>>263259040
b-but muh le cuhrazy meme ;-;

DMC thread? DMC thread.
What do you want and what do you expect in a new DMC game?

>>263259483
fun

>>263259625
It's dead, Jim.

>>263259040
Elaborate

someone post that image that shows the players power compared to the enemies power in borderlands 2
thats artifical difficulty and bad design

>>263259658
No.
It can't be.

>>263259880

capcom probably isn't going to put out a legit dmc 5

dmc 1 / 3 / 4 still exist though, and mitsurugi kamui hikae

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>>263259880
It really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPKHxbOg19s

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>Devil May Cry
>One of the few series that adds more enemies, new enemies and gives existing enemies new moves as you increase the difficulty rather than just giving them more HP and damage.
>The epitome of "artificial difficulty"

Fuckin' kek. Are you getting your shit stomped on easy or some shit? That's embarrassing.

>>263259661
It's not enough to simply 'win', you have to crank up the Style meter through variation and creativity, forcing the player to constantl alter their approach.

>>263260416
How is that artificial difficulty?

>>263260416
I think you misunderstand what artificial difficulty is

>>263260416

>Finding multiple ways to approach one situation is artificial difficulty

Time for a healthy dose of /v/

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>>263260416
>giving the player optional positive feedback for mixing up their approach is 'artificial difficulty'
I smell casual

what

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>>263260416

This is your complaint? One of the mechanics that makes the game a million times more fun because it forces you not to spam the exact same move over and over because it's the strongest.

heh....heheheheh...pfft....pfffthahahahahaha.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Please stop playing the game, you're not worthy.

>>263260416
>you have to
No you don't.
Also the purpose of the style meter is supposed to make you feel good, makes you feel like what you're doing is stylish.
What's next, you gonna call it artificial fun?

>>263260416
You also have to speed run every Sonic game

>see Dmc series on sale on Steam
>"well i loved ninja gaiden this is supposed to be kinda like that"
>buy dmc4
>as soon as the tutorial fight starts, cringe-core fag metal starts playing
>it never stops
>uninstalled

>>263261316
>not replacing the soundtrack with the SlamJam mod, or any fucking soundtrack you want.

It's like you've never played a PC game before.

>>263261316
THE TIME HAS COME AND SO HAVE I

>>263261624
well i can assume dmc4 is the first dmc game he's ever played, so he's definitely casual as fuck.
doesn't really excuse how dumb you'd have to be not to know you can do that though.

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>>263261316
HOURS IS LATE AS KINGDOMS UNFOLD
SINGS IN DISARRAY, YOU FIGHT IN LOATH

>>263260416
DMC3 is actaully pretty easy using Rebellion triangle combos. You just need to learn how to dodge.

>>263261996
I'M MOTIVATED

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>>263260416
the 1991-8 generation is here.

>>263261316
>not turning down BGM

>>263260128
Spanish makes everything funnier

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>>263262134
YOU'RE NOT WORTHY AS MY OPPONENT

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>>263261996
fukken saved

>>263262384
I never turn off BGM.

I don't care what you think.

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>>263261316

>>263262669

Well that's your problem

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>>263262391
SCUM

>>263260416
Jesus christ OP. You made my day.
It's made as anti-button mashing
It's literally the OPPOSITE of artificial difficulty

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>>263262518
CUES OF SILENCE SPARK MASTERY
KNIGHTS REVOLT TO DEMONIC TREACHERY

>>263262867
YOU'RE GOING DOWN

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>>263260128
was that a fucking boss fight?

>>263259040

It's actually one of the few series which does difficulty right, nothing artificial here

If you want artificial difficulty go play a JRPG that you literally need to grind to beat

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>>263261316
>hating on DMC OSTs

>>263260985
>it forces you
No. Nothing is being forced.

Style meter doesn't even fucking do anything.

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>>263261316

>plays ninja gayden
>tries to mock DMC

Just no

>>263260416
Why don't you go and play your shitty dark souls casualfag

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>>263262391
You'll not forget this devil's power.

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>>263263496

>he actually believes this

style affects the damage of your attacks, it also gives you more orbs and a better mission score.

Sure you can play the game through and get a shit score if you want but most people want to get gud instead of bitching like you.

>>263259040
you're the epitome of artificial faggot but no one seems to point that out either

thats's because no one gives a shit
cant beat artificial difficulty?

git gud

>>263263640
>style affects the damage of your attacks

It actually doesn't. It only affects style moves in 3 and at most all it does is give you an extra rotation on prop shredder or an extra shot on point blank. There is no damage buff from style meter in any of the DMCs.

>Orbs and missions score

The game is almost a decade old, I beat it 5 times over and have maxed out my orbs, why should I care?

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>>263261996
>>263263142
NOW YOU'VE REALLY CROSSED THE LINE
YOUR HATE FOR ME IS DIVINE
MY LOVE YEARNS FOR YOUR SUFFER
ON THE GRAVE LURKS MY PROSPER

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>>263263559
Hmph, how boring

>>263263640
>bitching like you.
who the fuck is bitching? what the fuck? are you retarded?

>>263263640
How is that forcing you? Do you need to use it? Can you complete the game without using it?
Then stop bitching

>>263260416
>It's not enough to simply 'win'
But it is? You can completly ignore the style meter and still beat the game.

>>263263640
>someone points out that you can play the game completely ignoring the style meter
>you sperg the fuck out and rage at him
Maybe you should just kill yourself

git gud

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>>263263752
KILLED BEFORE A TIME TO KILL THEM ALL
PASS THE DOWN THE RIGHTEOUS LAW
SURFACE THE JUSTICE THAT DWELLS IN ME
LIFELESS CORPSE AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEEEEE

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only on DMD

>>263263640
You're retarded and no one likes you.

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>>263259040
Artificial difficulty? No

DMC is still simplistic shit where all the "complexity" comes from glitching and animation cancelling, not to mention 99% of the shitty fanbase can't even do it themselves

The first one was good, third one was mediocre and inevitably shittier than NG that came out around the same time, and DMC4 was straight anime pandering trash with generic ugly environments and bosses

coming from someone who has them all (except DmC

Gonna buy DmC ultimate if they actually make that version for PS4, atleast they had the decency to put all the fucking controls into one scheme instead of retarded "styles" that would have been acceptable in DMC1

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>>263260416
So now good game design is artificial difficulty?

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>>263264309
>Jump Cancel is a glitch

>>263264510

technically it is. It's a glitch from Onimusha that was carried to DMC1.

Weapon switching was also an oversight, there was supposed to be cooldown but they forgot when they sent out the demo discs. People sent in footage of them playing without weapon cooldown and the staff loved it to the point of keeping the weapon switch as is

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>>263264510
No retard, but the developers sure as fuck never intended people to endlessly animation cancel with it (which is apparent with all their "crazy" marketing videos where nobody ever does it)

>>263264510
In 1 it was. Jump cancelling got the bunnyhop treatment.

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>>263259040
only if you are bad at video games

>>263264596
>>263264645
Yeah ok. granted. But from 3 onwards it was intended.

>>263264634
You aren't meant to spam ANY attack. You still can but your style would suck. It was meant to keep you in the air.

does anyone have that image of dante sitting in front of a computer snickering?

i've been trying to find it for days now

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXbHJtKcoKc

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>>263265043
It was never fucking intended to be used while repeatedly attacking, its just fucking incompetency on capcoms part, which just shows how fucking shallow DMC games really are, you have to use glitchy mechanics to get anything out of the combat system built on an original to be resident evil game

>>263263750
>I beat it 5 times over and have maxed out my orb
>Only 5 times
Nigga I've beat DMC3 at least 20 times, how about trying to actually get gud.

>>263263918
Yeah, if you're bad

>>263264309
>third one was mediocre and inevitably shittier than NG
Well, I guess there has to a be a NGfag in at least ever DMC3 thread.

>>263265338
it's only a glitchy mechanic in DMC1, it's intentional in 3 and 4.

>>263265338
Trying to apply anything you just said to games past DMC1 is ridiculous.

>>263265528
Some of the most stylish shit I've seen didn't break A rank, and you get SSS just for doing Jam Session. The style meter is nice but it isn't the end-all be-all.

If I'm not mistaken the term articificial difficulty is for games that increase the difficulty of their monsters as you increase the power of your character.

>>263265373

I...I have 300 + hours on my Virgil file alone.

It's just so good

>>263260128
Jesus, the spanish Succubus is so quiet, it's hilarious.

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>>263265338
You can't be serious

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>>263265713
Are you actually denying NG is better? DMC3 is fucking mechanically left behind as fuck, it cant even fit all the combat commands into one system so it has to resort into using swappable styles, which DMC4 did slightly better but still shittily

The environments are bland, enemies are mostly reskins of each other with different weapons, weapons and styles can only be swapped at certain points, pacing of the game is ass especially to newcomers

Only redeeming qualities were the vergil fights, the third one started to be unfair bullshit on the same tier as Dante fight on DMC4 where he reads your button presses and immeaditely counteracts them with shit

>>263266081
Don't you understand? Jumpcancelling itself is a mechanic, the talentless hacks at capcom never intended it to be repetitively used because they dont have the fucking talent to test their games (so there is a window for jumpcancelling in the air for a minute while continuously attacking)

Same shit with switch cancelling and buffering

>>263266127
>Some of the most stylish shit I've seen didn't break A rank
cool? Isn't that heavily subjective at that point, and you have nothing to show for it. And the fact you knew the score means you didn't ignore the meter.

>>263264869

>Atomic

IRRONICALLY

>>263260416
So something that is completely, blatantly optional that is related to nothing more than expressing how WELL you did in any given fight is artificial difficulty. Jesus fucking christ.

Rets see you pray Regendary Dark Knight mode on duh PC and say dat.

>>263266357
>Pacing of the game is ass especially to newcomers
Someone got their shit turned

>>263266357
(so there is a window for jumpcancelling in the air for a minute while continuously attacking)

i don't think you understand what jump cancelling is

or you've never played a dmc game

>>263266363
>cool?
Yeah, pretty much.
>you have nothing to show for it
You have some fucking stylish gameplay. If that means nothing to you, then we're not playing the game for the same reason.

>>263266357
>Are you actually denying NG is better?
Yeah, because even in Black, all you have to do is spam flying swallow over and over and over again. And there is nothing to discourage doing this like there is in DMC3.

And like I'm gonna take anyone seriously who is butthurt they have to pick and choose their moves for their playstyle. I'm sure you'd like DmC, lots of "pretty colors", no lock on and one clunky fight system all in one scheme. Enjoy.

>>263266357
>the third one started to be unfair bullshit on the same tier as Dante fight on DMC4 where he reads your button presses and immeaditely counteracts them with shit
Ah, it's all starting to make sense.

>>263266928
>You have some fucking stylish gameplay.
Well unless you show me it, all I can say is cool. So I'll just assume what you did was super super stylish.

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I've only played 4, are there fights as fun as this in the earlier games?

>>263265294
Anyone? This is an appropriate time to post this.

>>263266951

Just ignore the retard, Ninja Gaiden IS artifficial difficulty

>>263266976

>Having trouble with anything in DMC4.

>>263260416
>you have to crank up the Style meter through variation and creativity, forcing the player to constantl alter their approach.
You can actually just use a rotation and you would get high scores anyways.

>>263260416
You disappoint me /v/. This is the most obvious horseshit ever.


Or did you react as a means to make me react?

>!
You crafty fucks....

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>>263266357
>vergil 3 is unfair
>dante 2 is unfair
>JC is a glitch cuz you can't do it

Oh wow ok for second there I thought you actually knew what you were talking about.
Now It's pretty obvious DMC just kicked your ass and you're buttflustered.

>>263267108
As a general rule, the best fights in any DMC game are against other human sized bosses.

>>263267108
Vergil is a more fun boss, I think.

>>263259040
in the new DMC, and others before it, when you start on harder difficulties even the rank and file enemies would often have an "enrage" or some type of knockup/stagger immunity at low hp. Even if everything does more damage that's what harder difficulty is you pleb. It rewards better plays and sicker combos lulz

>>263266357
>NG is comparable to DMC3
ur a such a fuckhead. im a NG fan, and they both are great in their own respects; NG for making you play flawlessly and DMC3 for making you play stylishly. its like you dont want to play more than one game. in that case, dont play any of the DMC games. ur not welcomed

>>263267108

Most of DMC3 is nothing but fights like that after a certain point.

Play 4, 3, and maybe 1. Play DmC, too, just so you can realize how shit Western devs are.

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>>263266865
>>263266976
>>263266879
>>263267260
>You never played it and oh you suck

I would post some gameplay from me if it wasn't shit recorded with a phone, but I can assure I'm better than all of you shittalking retards at these games, and I don't even particularly like them because especially DMC4 is anime pandering shit

And you must be a special kind of stupid to not understand the pacing issues in 3 to newcomers, not saying I had a problem with it since DMC4 was my first DMC game

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>>263267179
Is this what you're looking for?

>>263263760
I am the quantum ranger

>>263267372
>I'm better than all of you!
sure anon

Did most actually care for the Story in DMC1-4?

Or did you give less fucks and kept on it for the gameplay?

>>263267108
Vergil is more fun than Credo, DMC3 is a better game than DMC4.

>>263267372

DMC3 was my first character action game, and first game for the PS2 as I was never a console baby before...felt fine. First level is great intro. Only problem is Cerberus is a huge bitch (hurhur), but tough love is still love.

Get good, baby.

>>263267416
Yes, thank you. It serves as a good summary for the current discussion.

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>>263266357
>>263267372

Oh my fucking god

>>263267372
Anyone who thinks you shouldn't use JC and that dante 2 was hard cannot be a good DMC player. Go back to your casual easy difficulty NG.

>>263264309
the autism and seeping from this one

>>263267260
>vergil unfair top kek

>>263267372
Go to bed, Baitman.

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>>263267747
You people are obviously fucking retarded. I never said you shouldnt use JC, I said its retarded glitchy animation cancelling that was never intended like this on crapcoms part

>>263267575
>Get good
coming from these kids who all get an SSS rank and start screaming because of how good they are

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>>263267372
Everyone is laughing at you, please just leave and save yourself the embarrasment

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>>263268080
>S..shut up guys, I'm not retarded, YOU ARE.

that fucking camera is artificial difficulty

>>263268221
DSP go and stay go

>>263263760
>Playing dmc 3 pc (Have to delete music to run)
>Dialogue and attack sounds in game stay
>Laugh at how bad Virgils mid battle sounds are
He sounds like the lollipop guild men from the wizard of oz

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>>263259040
>>263260416

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF8rdHz2wZw&list=PLA225E25C69EE9BC5&index=5

DMC1 is the best

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High skill ceiling =/= artificial difficulty

I suck at DMC now, but even still I can recognize that you are terrible at video games.

Welcome home.

>>263267532
The story is like B-movie tier. It's there but you're playing/watching it for other reasons like gameplay/gore/cheezy action.
Though I will admit, the first game had the best atmosphere.

>>263267532
I have played every DMC game extensively and I still cannot ascertain any story, even after watching every cutscene. The only one I can get a possible read of is 4, and even then all I can figure is Nero wanting his gf + some sorta ancient evil awakening.

>>263268660
I love anything that gives me Dante's banter, so the cut scenes and story were great in DMC3.

>>263260416
>through variation and creativity

I hope most of you guys posted ironically and are aware how tongue in cheek the post is being.

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Man why didn't I use this idea and call fightan games artificial difficulty when I didn't like them

>>263267562
4 would have been better if it took a note from DMC 2 and but dante and nero on separate disks with 20 missions each so you don't use a character you don't like for half the game

>>263268830
its 3 > 1 >4 >>> 2 in terms of story

>>263265528
And? The player still won.

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>>263266357

Wow. You really fucking suck at Devil May Cry.

Look, I like NG more personally myself. Even nailed the 100% PotMN on Ninja Gaiden II when it came out, but you're talking about of your ass mostly.

>>263267260
Virgil 3 is the best fight with royal guard or trickster
>best practise for guarding and easy s ranks because royal guard fills style fast as hell
>With LV3 trickster it becomes DMCZ

>>263260416
>>263259040
Jesus christ, the shit I read here sometimes.

Power ranking of the DMC games and PC ports while Capcom Steam sale is on.

Truth be told, I ONLY ever played DMC2 on PS2, and despite everyone saying it's the worst, having nothing to compare it to, it was its own game which I managed to enjoy immensely. What do the newer titles build on that 2 lacked? Etc

>>263268683
I miss Capcom Science! threads.

is dante fucking trish?

>>263259040
>Devil May Cry
>Difficulty
Choose one

>>263268975
Or if, you know, they finished the fucking game and didn't slash a year off the development time. That was the first in a long string of mistakes modern Capcom has made.

>>263267575
>character action
Stop.

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>>263268080

>>263268080
>I said its retarded glitchy animation cancelling that was never intended like this on crapcoms part
not in DMC3 and 4, it's 100% intentional in those games.

>>263263730

>Artificial

Maybe he's an actual

>>263269391
They slashed a year
I thought it was few months

>>263269317
No she doesn't have the fire to be Dantes babe

>>263269317
Trish is literally a demon made to look like his mom, no.

>>263269317
No, Dante is pure

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>>263269430
I believe the more pressing issue is
ARE YOU PLAYING WITH A FUCKING KEYBOARD?

>>263268006
>>263269180
Guy's I know I was disagreeing with him.
Was that not clear or something...?

>>263269246
3 is the best, 4 is great too.

3 and 4 build on pretty much everything that 2 lacked (which was pretty much everything), but the main improvement is the gameplay which is really fucking great in both.

Emulate DMC3 and pick up DMC4 cheap, it's worth it.

>>263269246
DMC3 is the best game, HD remaster is considered the best because the PC version needs to be heavily modded.

DMC4 has the best gameplay and can play at max settings on virtually any computer. Its one of the best ports ever.

DmC is shit and is basically Heavenly Sword 2, but at least its 60 fps on pc.

>>263269775
I just said it was my fave fight

>>263269430
kb > gamepad

You get so many more options for fast combos.
Look it up. A lot of godlike DMC4 players use kb.

>>263267532
The story in 3 is actually ok but it really doesn't show its hand until about 2/3rds into the game. A story above growing up and accepting who you are.

>>263269805
Pc heavily modded is worth it though
>INB4 0X0 res image

>>263269959
meant for
>>263269746

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>>263269959
I'm not good enough dude, not even gonna try.

>>263269246
Dont get the PC version of 3, DO get the pc version of 4.

>>263267532
The only story (actually more the general lore) worth paying attention to is DMC1.
Everything else is just shit. Funny and over the top, but in the end shit.

>>263269805
>ports

MTframework games are first made for pc then ported to consoles. This is why it's painful to see Dragon's Dogma stay and suffocate on consoles with muddy textures and fps drops seeing how it's made with MTframework.

Just throwing that out there.

>>263269534
Nah, it was a year IIRC, cut a third off the development time.

>>263269959
FUCKING THIS

I beat both games on DMD using my keyboard because of my poorfaggotry and by god is it better.

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>>263268092
>>263268192
>you are j-just bad and you actually dont kno anytihng..

This is how the DMC kids argue, but I'm sorry I'm still better than every single one of you at the game I don't even like

>>263269073
And on it goes

>>263269430
You really are fucking stupid, how many times have I said the fucking jumpcancel itself isnt a glitch, but fucking attacking and then jumpcancelling and attacking and jc and attacking and jc and so fort was never intended with the small as fuck/buggy windows for it?

Fucking stupid kids

>>263270283
For fucks sake capcom

>>263269796
>>263269805
Thanks for the tips.

The only thing I see is people mentioned 3 being one of the most garbage ports ever, such as not even being able to quit to desktop from in-game.

Anyone with experience on the ports of 3, and 4 comparitively since it's hailed as best port, care to spare a few words?

>>263270228
>MTframework games are first made for pc then ported to consoles.
Then why did it take 2 years for it to show up on PC? If the development turn around was that easy, why not a universal release?

>>263270225
DMC3 was alright.

>>263270608
Because Capcom?

>>263270552
3 needs like 14 mods to be god
4 was hand crafted by white mages

>>263270647
DMC3 was actually the worst.
No wait, that is not fair, 2 is still the worst.

>>263270702
Poor excuse

>>263270608
muh piracy.

>>263270608
Because it needed some tweaking apparently. They just made it with MTframework which runs better on its home turf but the playable version was compiled firstly for consoles.

As for
>if the development turn around was that easy, why not a universal release?

Because capcom hates money.

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You're all faggots.

>>263271009
He would say "Boring" while waving his arm dismissively.

>>263270720
> 14 mods to be good
Shit, still less than Skyrim. The question then: is it easy to apply the mods or is it a real fucking circus of jumping through hoops for it to still maybe be shit? Modding is no trouble, really.

>>263259625
>new DMC game
I dont trust capcom with DMC anymore

>>263271197
no they are not easy i had to reinstall it 3 times because I kept fucking up

>>263271095
Wasn't trying to impersonate him.

>>263270996
>Because it needed some tweaking apparently.
But it was made for PC, it doesn't take 2 years to add one new game mode.
>Because capcom hates money.
still a shitty excuse, its a port.

>>263271009
Beowulf Dante versus double God hand Gene

Who wins?

>>263262174
Oh comeon 1980's fag thats one person. Stop generalizing like a dumb cunt.

>>263260416
Holy shit, you fucking suck.
Getting style is optional as fuck. You can beat the game getting straight Bs and sti have fun

>>263261809
>casual as fuck
>loves Ninja Gaiden
I dunno man, Ninja Gaiden gets way harder than DMC even if there are some bullshit things like blind spot rocketspam in NG2

>>263271406
Gene. Every single time. Wouldn't even need the devil hand.

>>263271329
They still have Itsuno, they just have to give him control of the game

>>263262174
woah woah woah, m8, those are some heavy implications you're packing.

>>263260128
if DMC5 does happen i want to have Dante with a mustache,Trish and Lady telling him to shave it off trough the game,and then have it get burned off/cut off when he is evading an attack.

>>263271347
Cool thanks bro

Looks like DMC4 only. Fuck you Capcom

Just bought DMC4 which i've played extensively on xbox (ugh)

and I also bought revelations. What am I in for with revelations

>>263271932
Bud, be sure to get DMC3 eventually, it is the best DMC game and one of the best games of the 6th gen easily. Just get the HD collection for PS3 or 360, they're like $12.

Also you're gonna want to play with a Dual Shock or a controller with the same layout for DMC4. It makes style switching way easier.

Anyone tried this yet?

http://www.nexusmods.com/devilmaycry3/mods/1/?

I'm hype as fuck for style switching in DMC3, and it looks like the guy also included a bunch of shit to make the PC version suck less.

>>263272341
Yea but you need to take a bit of time to work controlls out for it

>>263272309
>HD collection
>Kalina Ann's grapple is busted, doesn't pull enemies
Fucking dropped

>>263263525
>>263261316
I felt the same.
I thought the redesign was making him an edgy metal lord but they just seem the same apart from the weeb white hair. Who the fuck just charges into a church and kills their leader with nothing but a shit eating grin on his face while listening to metal?

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>>263260416
10/10 you got me. Hook, line and sinker.

bullshit aside the epitome of artificial difficulty is either Megaman X6 or Kung Fu Strike.

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>>263270447
>JC is a glitch and oversight by crapcom
>No wait I meant canceling attacks for spam is uhhh

nice backpedal m8

>>263269317
Probably, they live together in 4.

>>263272731
As opposed to everything being busted in the PC port?

Alright, Anon, if you want to be that anal about it, get the PS2 special edition.

Troll thread is troll thread.

>>263259040
How can that be the case if it's not difficult in the first place? Yeah yeah, DMC3 1st ed. blah blah, it's actually mderate once you stop sucking.

>>263272731
That is a bummer man, how did that even happen?

>>263259658
>>263260128
Capcom listed DMC as a pillar of their company going forward.

It's got hope.

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>>263272341
>I'm hype as fuck for style switching in DMC3

You should be

>>263270447
>attacking and then jumpcancelling and attacking and jc and attacking and jc
>glitch
Are you really so retarded that you can't tell the difference between a game mechanic and a player's playing preferences?

>>263262174
Oh, look. The retard generation is here!

>>263273378
Not him, I've got it on PS2 and PC. I was just disappointed to find that one of my favorite attacks doesn't work in that version.

>>263273821
No idea man, it just doesn't work. It hits and does minimal damage, but doesn't pull them in.

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Can Hayabusa defeat Dante?

Can Hayabusa defeat Raiden?

>>263263142
Man, Kaneko made some prety Devil Triggers. Weird how well his style blended into the game.

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>make thread with retarded opinion
>don't justify why
>3 billion posts
>every time

>>263274594
We're not even on OP's subject though.

>>263264309
>"complexity" comes from glitching and animation cancelling

some of the funnest gaming mechanics come from bugs, like marios walljump in SMB to keeping enemies airborn with bullets in DMC

>>263273852
Capcom is dead too, son

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>>263260416

>adapting to new situations is artificial difficulty

Was your favourite game DmC by any chance?

>>263274414
DMC3´s Devil Trigger are the worst actually if you ask me.
They don´t fit into the world at all and look stupid.

>>263259040

People saying artificial difficulty are casuals

all difficulty is artificial

But what about the last remnant, anon?

>>263259040
Did you mean Dark Souls? I think you meant Dark Souls.

>>263276185
Obligatory git gud

>>263274367
>Dante
No.
>Donte
Yes.
>Raiden
Also yes.

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>>263260416

>>263276280
NO I SHOULDNT HAVE TO FUCK YOU YOU ELITIST RACIST MISOGYNIST COMMUNIST

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>>263276329
Can he really beat Raiden? That nigga throws around Metal Gears for fun.

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>>263274367
Thats like asking if Batman can beat Superman

so yes

>>263276672
Ninja magic, son.

>>263263142
>dat "you're going down" line delivery

Shit's fucking intense, much more intimidating than a fuck you or bragging about your penis size.

>>263259040
Go back to needing save states and quick-saves to play your games

>>263276672
If you played the modern Ninja Gaiden games you know he can.

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>>263274367
Think of it this way, Hayabusa can counter fucking anything while Dante could block anything
It'd be more of a battle of endurance than anything
He'd probably mop the floor with Raiden because of his speed and ninja magic though

>>263260416
kek/lel

>>263278292
>block anything

You do realize you can halve Belial's health with royalguard Dante.

>>263278292
Is Hayabusa actually faster than Raiden? Raiden can also run on walls and shit like that.

>>263260416
Jesus Christ that's enough of /v/ for today.

>>263262174
yes, please take some 50cal aspirin. The world will be better off for it.

>>263259040
Apart from the fact it isn't really hard?

>>263278780
He's definitely faster than Raiden.
MGR was slow and shallow

>>263261316
I played dmc 4 while listening to something else on my headphones, and it was for the most part a decent game except for all the fucking backtracking.

>>263279774
>MGR was slow and shallow

Do you regularly play games like Ikaruga or are you baiting?

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>>263276672
raiden isn't strong compared to other cuhrazy heroes

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>>263278663
>>263278292

>>263280084
So Dante>Hayabusa

>>263280291
Bayo>Dante>Hayabusa>Donte>Raiden

>>263280423
Is Bayo really stronger than Dante?

She just appears very slow in comparison. And has overall less tools.

>>263280423

Bayo a shit, Kamiya is just mad as fuck that Itsuno made a better Dante than him. We haven't even seen Dante's level 2 devil trigger yet except in the concept art, this implies that he has multiple levels of devil trigger making him the Goku of video games.

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>>263280752
Absolutely not.

>>263280423
bayo cant do shit to Dante,and Dante cant do shit to Bayo,they just fuck

>>263280752
Magic bullshit and Kamiya confirmed it

>>263280801
unlike Dante, Bayo is alive
rip in peace ;_;7

>>263280967
Bayo can die and get hurt. Dante cannot.

>>263280995
>kamiya confirmed it

But Kamiya can go fuck himself anon. He is irrelevant when it comes to 3 and 4.

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>>263280423
Where does Gene stands?

>>263280967
well there is that

>>263281093

>Dante can't die

Pretty much this, if you can survive a claymore and katana being bored through your torso into your heart and shrug it off like it was a bad case of heart burn then it's fair to assume Dante is immortal.

>>263281401
was meant for
>>263281093

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>>263280967
>>263281401
it's canon
dante styles on bayo who can't do shit and rapes her

she likes it

>>263281356
Between bayo and dante I'd say.

>>263259040
Then point out how it is, m8

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>>263272715
>Yea but you need to take a bit of time to work controlls out for it
how did you get it working? My wired 360 controller's shoulder buttons both activate when I hit one of them.

>>263281356

Dante>>Bayo>Hayabusa>Raiden>Gene

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>>263280423
>>263281356
What about Str...err, Hotsuma?

>>263281606
i require sauce

All of the delicious bait in this thread. Its a meta sort of comedy, but its fucking amazing that anyone engages with any of this.

>>263282007
Not that anon but I think it's this

http://exhentai.org/g/181009/1f3471aed1/

>>263270552
>such as not even being able to quit to desktop from in-game
false as fuck

>>263279972
I regularly play games like Ninja Gaiden Black, NG2, Razor's Edge, DMC3 & 4, Bayonetta and Vanquish and no I'm not bating it's the truth. Was MGR your first action game?

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>>263275454
It was cool how it changed shaped with different Devil Arms, though. I liked Dante's Devil Trigger in 4 the most, I just wish they kept his flight attacks like Air Raid and Vortex.

>>263281484
Maybe cutting his head off would work, though good luck trying.

>>263283371
Dante can move much faster than the speed of light and seems like he has absolutely complete spatial awareness.

>>263283371
You can also empty his health bar and remove his gold orbs :^)

>>263283617
He probably gets drunk just to make fights more entertaining.

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>>263278292
I want Anarchy Reigns to be Metal Gear Rising canon just so Doug can advise Raiden in future games.

>>263283693
Well if that's the case he can always chug some holy water on your ass :^)

>>263283617
speed of sound I mean.

>>263260416
Holy shit this better be bait.

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>>263281962
I think he can tie it with Hayabusa and be above Donte and Raiden.

What about Misa though? Those that played MKH know that it's basically glorified royalguard simulation.

>>263265310
What an asshole

>>263262174
Don't lump me in with these children you faggot. I bet you're one of those "le wrong generation" fags yourself.

>>263259040
I honestly cant believe how can people make me cringe so hard when they describe dmc3 dante
>le partay man
jesus fuck its a demon tower in the middle of his city does he really need any other motivation to go fuck it up

>>263284193
She seems hard to hit but kinda limited offensively.

>>263260128
>Sabes cual es tu problema?

>Eres una Lapa!!

>>263284193
Tied with Nero when he isn't using his demon hand.

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>>263259625

>What do you want

DmC2 with better gameplay.

>and what do you expect in a new DMC game

Fanpandering DMC5 in a desperate effort to get money, raping even more the original DMC series.

>>263270447
>You really are fucking stupid, how many times have I said the fucking jumpcancel itself isnt a glitch, but fucking attacking and then jumpcancelling and attacking and jc and attacking and jc and so fort was never intended with the small as fuck/buggy windows for it?
Who fucking cares, it opens up the game for more crazy options for over the top combos and rewards players with perfect timing

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>>263284616
Her countering is on par if not stronger than Dante's royalguard ingame though.

You can spend hours on harder difficulty fighting Suzuka or you could just counter her three times.

>>263260416
Well that's what everyone may call "Rewarding".

You can win. But by getting better at the game and use the maxium of Dante you will get more points.

I don't get your point, you can still win playing dumb and you will ake more time to upgrade. But why upgrade and have more moves and styles if it's enough with using those you already have?

You will get variety, if you use variety. There is no magic beyond that

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SO who wants to see some pages of this?

>>263285281
Is that concept artbook? With all the Nero designs?

>>263263496
It gives you more currency the better the score you get. Wich is anyway to get MORE skills and styles. Wich, for people who complains about having to change styles, is fine since they don't need it

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>>263285409
Yea

>>263265338
I bet you are one of those who still says the animation cancel in SF is a glitch after champion edition

>>263267279
>dmc3 jester

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>>263285281
I just remembered /v/ used to have a lot of fun DMC threads posting art and lore. Then DmC was a thing and I ran away from them.

>>263285580
I wonder why they dropped the idea of him having a purple theme. Maybe it was too obvious of Nelo Angelo?

I like him in that one white getup as well. Fuck DMC4 for being rushed and not providing alternative costumes like in 3.

I'm interested in the NGB gifs/webms since I still have a long way to go to play that game and I'd like something to look foward to.

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>We could have had dapper early 20th century Nero

>>263285884
Jester is an exception.

>>263286067
Blue Rose really fits with that classy style.

In his final outfit he looks like a random punk that robbed a gun from a museum.

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>tfw can never be stylish, average a C-A on most missions
>tfw no Brave souls to unlock more stuff
Feels bad man

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>>263285980
blue and red is kind of purple
and his coat is almost purple

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>>263285898
DmC really did ruin everything. Someone will ALWAYS troll ever DMC thread with it and half of the people posting will ALWAYS respond.

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Devil Bringer

Is there any kind of difficulty that isn't artificial?

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Wacky Red Queen designs up top. They even did cross sections of Blue Rose to show how it works.

>>263277214
Didn't help; him in death battle

>>263281895
>My wired 360 controller
only wireless 360 and Ps3/4 with DS3/4 tool work, sorry mate

>>263287407
I don't know what that is.

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>>263263525
>shitting on NG

You're both irredeemable faggots. Hang yourselves.

What are everyone's complaints with DmC? I actually somewhat liked it, although it did seem very VERY easy until the highest difficulty.

I kind of just accepted that it was supposed to be a completely different story, so that didn't bother me. What is it about the game itself that you guys hate?

>>263288167
Some youtube show where they take 2 characters and play top trumps for a bit and then do a animation of them fighting

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Some cooler looks for Credo.

>>263259040
Nope. You can potentially avoid everything. Artificial difficulty means there are things left up to the luck of the game to avoid. In DMC the player can plateau with knowledge and execution enough to avoid/parry everything.

Also this is coming from someone that DMD gives a fuck ton of trouble to so i'm not being biased. I'm more of a Ninja Gaiden player. Ninja Gaiden 2 is the closest thing in NG to artificial difficulty and that is mostly because of some frame drops and my believe chip damage has no place in NG outside of a few boss attacks.

>>263288436
I think the final design suits him better. He should look like a military general not a count like in the right section of the pic.

>>263268221
There are very few areas in DMC3/4 where the player can't control the camera completely. If you can control the camera it can't be below slightly annoying. Ninja Gaiden Black has objectively the best not completely controllable Camera.

DMC1s camera is really fucking annoying sometimes though. Nightmare fight 3 is light a tribute to bad cameras.

>>263286929
This is pretty sweet

>>263288853
I wonder if we would be able to fight him in his human form if the game was finished.

>>263264596
JC wasn't in DMC1. You could enemy step, but it didn't reset your moves.

>>263289218
>>263289381
Well I for one am glad they went with the Big Tits and Far Ass version myself.

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>>263289381
kyrie was such a fucking bummer in game

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The main man himself.

I just realized that DMC4 doesn't even have other costumes for Nero and Dante.
No, super costumes doesn't count.

Damn it, Capcom. Always with the unfinished shit.

>>263290212
Makes me wonder why wasn't there a special edition? I mean, it sold pretty well.

>>263290167
>No shirtless costumes for DMC4
Why live?