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>majoring in computer science to make video games
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>>263114661
>not having a single diploma and keeping shitposting on an imageboard where nobody gives a shit about you, and not killing yourself
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>>263114661

Duh. What else am I supposed to major in to make vidyas?
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>anything academic for making video games
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>Going to college in the internet age
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>studying computer science and then moving home after graduating and doing nothing but play video games

I've got a job interview next week though
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>taking a game design course
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>going to Full Sail
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>STANDING
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>not getting a Ph.D. in biophysics then becoming a NEET and playing video games and posting on 4chin all day because you've had enough of working and ruined your youth by humping books and lab equipment

step up kohai
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>>263114661

>participating in Anime club
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>>263115603
I'll never do that again.
Took one course, one motherfucking course.
It was horrible and too complex, saw everything from algorithms, to graphics theory.

Jesus Christ
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But that's the right thing to do if you want to work with games. What'd you do, take a "game design" course?
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>>263114661
>making video games
kek no I just play them
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>going to college
LMAO
L
O
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>"Bachelor's of Arts"
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>>263114939
Game design at full sail.
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My college has a Computer Club
Should I go? What should I expect?
I just want friends
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>>263114661
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I'm majoring in software engineering, that's what I want right? To make games. Keep having this fear i'm going to finish college and find out it's not what I wanted at all.
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>>263115840
>not going to full sail and doing work for NXT
>not guaranteeing a job in WWE
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>>263116320
>Having fun and enjoying things
What a fag.
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>>263115150
this
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>>263116543
Yes, you should go, and you should expect virtual reality fap club. You will have all the friends.
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>>263116543

yeah
I'm in mine and it's usually just a bunch of us in a room doing homework or playing yidya
They also hold guest lectures, teach their own UNIX course, hold hackathons, and LAN parties
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>>263116692
Shut the fuck up nerd, the things you enjoy are gay as fuck
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Majoring in Cognitive Science, but focusing most of my free time on art. Maybe ill work in an art department some day
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>>263116597

what year are you and what courses are you taking?
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>pretending you can get a job without college
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>>263117146
Starting this year. In about 8 days.
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>tfw mid tier
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>>263116919
That sounds fun
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>>263116338
Funny, because that actually sounds better than the one in my town. All they do is make board games and games in Game Maker
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>>263117307

what courses are you taking. If you do a class or two and don't like it switch. It's not all games (last few weeks of my python class we learned how to make games using built-in python features, but those we're only pong and breakout) and when you get into higher level classes its more so about the theory of Computer Science.
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>>263117626
computer science is the same tier as math though
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>>263116459

>that feel when my math minor is only offered through the college of liberal arts an is counted as a BA
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>>263117626
>literature not in trash tier
>philosophy not at least top tier
>sociology and womens studies not in SJW tier
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I'm gonna major in computer science, not for video games though, just cause it seems like a good degree.

I suck in math though, wish me luck anons
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>>263116459
No joke, my wife graduated with a BS in Art.
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>>263117905

it should be

>god tier: actually interest in Computer Science
>go fucking kill yourself: video game Computer Science
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>>263115386

Fuck off Finlay.
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>>263117626
>Linguistics and literature in mid along with pseudo sciences
>Dude has beef with astronomy for some reason
>Philistines still ragging on philosophy in particular for some reason

I'll never understand
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>>263117626
What kind of shitty list is this?

Literature, art and women's studies should be in Kill Yourself tier. Get CS, neuroscience and astronomy out of there. Fucking /lit/ faggots trying to seem relevant.
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>>263117626
Every single time...
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>>263118105
>I'm gonna major in computer science
>I suck in math

pick a different major. seriously.

any CS degree that's worth a penny is filled with enough math to absolutely destroy you if you suck at it.
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>>263118105
Me too.
Good luck anon. What are you planning to go into?
I wanna program robots[/spoiler[
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>>263114661

Good Lord does this bitch make my autism go wild.

Seriously, million dollar budget and they couldn't find a way to dye her eyebrows so they'd match her hair? It just looks so fucking fake.
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>>263118160
Talked to a girl recently who's doing a fashion degree and it's a BS. I think she it was about the technology surrounding it or something.
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>>263117626
>Economics only in Mid Tier
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>Getting a job
>not living off social welfare.
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>>263117626
Oh and I just noticed medicine in low tier. What the fuck?
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>>263114661
>minding your own business
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>>263117626
>Motherfucking astronomy is the lowest
Why
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>>263117626
The fuck is wrong with Neuro?
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>>263118457
>One bracket wrong
Your robot has now executed hundreds of construction workers. Congrats.
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There exist people in the game industry with degrees in computer science
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>>263118457

>expectation
>Robots, Science fiction, lasers
>reality
>"today we're gonna talk about tables"
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>>263118393
I have to try, I can't really see myself doing anything else. I'm just gonna push through and do my best so I can have a nice life!
Most of my math issue is just cause I suck at remembering stuff, and that I stopped trying to pass it since 8th grade. I just took per-algerbira and passed

>>263118457
I'm not sure yet, I had one job in mind but I totally forgot the name so I'm back at phase one
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>>263117626
>linguistics in mid tier
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>playing video games
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>>263117754
Well it was in Hong Kong, one of the top ranked schools in the world. Was way too fucking hard for me. Had to code a Tetris game from scratch and do and Unreal Engine videogame for the final project AND had a final exam. Jesus. Also saw AI theory and tons of shit.
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>>263117626
Switch Low to Go fucking kill yourself tier, Go fucking kill yourself tier to Mid tier and Mid tier to Low tier. Also, move Biology and Economics down a tier.
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>>263115840
Floridafags know this more than anyone.

Fuck Full Sail.
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I'm majoring in computer science, but not to make games.
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>got a bachelors in computer science
>it's a shitty ordinary degree with no honours

I've had a few interviews for IT/developer jobs since graduating this summer so it's not like I'm completely unemployable.
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>>263118393
Are there any good computer-related things that don't involve math?
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>>263117759
But if I do it i'll be making games right? or I can go in that direction? I heard software engineering is the best thing to go for for that.
Or am I fucked and should change majors quickly?
I don't have the exact names but i'm taking basics for stuff.
Have a math class, a science class, and i think a computer science class. I'll be home shortly and should be able to check my exact schedule/classes at that time if this thread is still open.
It seems like something I really would like, don't think i'll have problems with it, just want to make sure it's what i want.
I see threads on /v/ quite often that makes me a bit fearful that software engineering isn't what i want.
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Psychology mid tier?? Are you fucking kidding me? That piece of shit degree is what everyone who has no fucking clue what theyre doing graduates with. Also Comp Sci is one of the only degrees that's in demand and pays well; a bachelors in biology or physics doesn't pay jack shit.
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>>263118907
How is Full Sail for other majors?
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>>263118393
Really? There was plenty of math in the year I tried computer engineering, but hardly any in computer science which I'm currently attending.
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>>263119015
>physics

No, they're in high demand everywhere, including business. They're seen as very similar to math.
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>>263116841
>neets contributing nothing to society but smug anime girl images.
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>>263118731
A man can dream.
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>>263118919
Graphic design. Its very rare math or programming is ever used. Most professionals won't work with either of those unless they specialize in something. I know that you can use photoshop for medical purposes and that requires some math and programming to accomplish.
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>>263118919
labor work

Even wrench wielding engineers need math anon
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If you are a good programmer you're not wasting your potential on fucking videogames.
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>>263119089
Its a for-profit college, what the fuck do you except? Its probably even more dogshit for art related degrees.
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>>263117626
>Getting a job
>With pure math

Nope faggot.
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>>263114661
They are offering a game design master in my city at a private college for about 5k Reichsmark per semestre. Should I go for it?
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>>263118961

you CAN, but honestly if you are just doing Computer Science to make video games for a living, switch majors. You can learn to program games off the internet and do all the shit you do for them. I would suggest taking the computer science class and if you are interested continue on, but if you find yourself bored or don't like it, switch immediately. It sounds like you are in your generals so switching won't be a big deal.

pic related
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>>263119256
I can't draw for shit though, isn't that an over flooded field like most art stuff?

I need something solid and viable.
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>>263118919
Network tech/system administration stuff.
IT rather than engineering.

>>263118737
Not that guy but the math you're going to encounter in a good CS curriculum is much much different than the "math" you have done up to that point.

>>263118457
Start getting into robots right the fuck now.
Very little of the things you learn in CS classes is going to prepare you in any way for working on actual software projects.
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>>263115840
I'm British and even I know that Full Sail is a shit school. That and they film based NXT there
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>not majoring in History so you have a diploma that basically allows for a job with anything

I shiggy diggy

inb4
>history doesn't lead to jobs!! worthless degree!

Nobody gets a History degree to get a History job. It's just a nice and well-rounded degree.
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>>263118737
>I just took per-algerbira and passed

what is that?
i'm not american, so i'm not familiar with your education system


most relevant math stuff for comp sci:
>formal logic
>binary arithmetics
>probability theory and statistics

depending on your field you might also need
>multivariate calculus
>vector calculus
>advanced linear algebra

and a ton of other specialized shit i'm too dumb to even know about
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>>263119527
>Network tech/system administration stuff.

What do you major for that?
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>>263117626
My major isn't even on here
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>>263119413
I feel dumb. Is computer science the same as software engineering? (the latter being what i'm majoring in)

also my courses:
problem solving theory
computer structure and logic
added to what i posted above.
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>>263119573
I've got a CompSci degree but I regret not doing History at a least A Level. It was one of my favourite subjects in high school and the subject I did best in.
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>>263117626
>Top tier

I expected no less.
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>>263119573
>Going into arts
>Love history
>Fuck up so badly during course registration I didn't get to take any history courses

Fucking why
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>>263119225
Yeah its in high demand, but only in unrelated topics to physics. You either have to go the accounting route or the programming route which are both totally unrelated to physics.
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>>263119573
Keep telling yourself that. People with history degrees are aiming to get into a law program. And this world doesn't need more lawyers.
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>>263117626
>Women's studies higher than Computer Science

You know that without CS there would be no 4chan on which to post your horrible bait, right?
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>>263114661
>majoring in computer science instead of applied mathematics
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>>263118543
you're right, it should be in trash tier
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>tfw top tier
Should be god, but i'll take it
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>>263117626
I guess Business is too low to even be put on the list.
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>>263119650
Not him but from what I was told if I wanted to work in video game company I need to start from there which is bottom tier
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>>263119587

not OP, but I am a second year and I am taking

>Probability and Statistics for Engineers
>Vector calculus
>Data Structures and Abstractions (intro to Java)
>Elementary Computational Linear Algebra

the math isn't too bad, it's mostly logic based stuff, but things like 3D Graphic Design are really Calculus based
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>>263114661
>not making a candy crush clone, earning 10 milions and becoming a NEET gamer forever
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>>263117626
>mfw chemical engineer
>working for one of the top 3 oil companies in the world
>making over 200k per year
>living alone
>just come back from my job every day
>turn on the computer
>spend the rest of my day on 4chan
>sleep and repeat until I die I guess

I should have gone Arts, I'd probably be happier.
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>>263119015

Biology guarantees you a job anywhere and physics is godlike for business
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>>263119830
Computer science is about the science of and theories computation. It's very broad.
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>>263118913
>bachelors
>expecting to get hired

masters is minimum

>>263119015
>Psychology mid tier?? Are you fucking kidding me? That piece of shit degree is what everyone who has no fucking clue what theyre doing graduates with

funny, that's what they say about business-students in my country

>>263117626
>biology
>not the business/law school equivalent of natural science
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>>263119991
I'll fight you, anon.
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>>263119830
Different anon here, I'm doing Computer Science & Software Engineering, Maybe our units are similar. Units are:

Computer Systems Structure
Fundamentals Of Computer Studies
Introduction To Software Development
Principles Of Programming
Concepts And Technologies Of Artificial Intelligence
Mobile Applications
Object Oriented Programming And Software Engineering
Systems Development And Modern Database Practices
Comparative Integrated Systems
Research Methodologies And Emerging Technologies
Social And Professional Project Management
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>>263119573
>MUH DEGREE DOES EVERYTHING
Like any employer wants to some punk ass kid who can tell all about transsexuals in classic Greek history. You are better off getting degree in something relevant to the work you want to do.
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>>263119650
Honestly you're better off just finding an entry level IT job and working your way up.
If college is somehow a better route for you (government throwing money at you, parents paying, etc) then just an Information Technology degree.

Still start actually doing it as soon as possible.
College doesn't prepare you for shit.
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>>263120071
yeah but the money anon
that will make you happy
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>>263118919
>Are there any good computer-related things that don't involve math?

'computer related' as in 'uses a computer at work' ? a ton.
you can also do stuff like maintenance, IT, graphics design, 3d modeling, sound guy, pretty much any 'art related work'...

but the higher developing positions are more engineering-like. and you NEED a sound understanding of math for that.

after all, computers are just machines that do a lot of math very fast
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>>263119871
>a bachelors in biology or physics doesn't pay jack shit.
>a bachelors in physics doesn't pay jack shit.
>Yeah its in high demand

You're fucking unintelligent
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>>263119952
>not doing a double major in comp sci and math and then working in finance

Top kek
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>>263119830

software engineering is kinda an emphasis in computer science. In my school, at least, you can focus of software development in your upper-level classes. You can also focus on things like 3D object design, cryptography, Theory, Big Data, and much more. Intro CS classes tend to cover very basics of all these ideas to get you interested in what you like
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>>263114661

>muh dragons
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>placing importance based on college degree
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>>263120071
A friend of mine did really well in his chemistry major but ultimately winded up into a soup factory doing drone work. If you're not bullshitting that's the kind of money everyone wants
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>>263114661
>even bothering with a degree if you're planning on just making video games or going into software engineering, let alone anything other than CS

Enjoy your debt you fucking retard.
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>>263120175
>Honestly you're better off just finding an entry level IT job and working your way up.

I'm sorry anon, but I really don't get what you mean.

I would love to not do college and just like...do an apprenticeship and work my way up.
But from what my parents told me I need some sort of college degree to do anything.

I really appreicate this insight though
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>"Im studying English literature"
>"I am going through a librarian course"

Those were the best ones I heard
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>>263120280
This is what I'm trying to do.
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>>263117626
>No education or history
Fuck you too buddy
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Where is a diploma in digital antomation going to get me?
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>>263120071
>Making over 200k a year

Shit nig you're loaded. Do you raffle off vidya a lot?
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>>263120175
>Honestly you're better off just finding an entry level IT job and working your way up.

Yeah, have fun with that unpaid indentured life.
>so do you have a degree?
>no i but I did do a bunch of unpaid work
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>>263117626

>Psychology higher than anything
.medicine not at least top tier


Nursing fucking prints money
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>>263120452
being a librarian would be a chill as fuck
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>>263117626
>chance to actual employment arranged from lowest to highest
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>>263119830
Comp sci graduate (who ended up doing a lot of engineering papers because I stupidly made my degree choice without understanding the difference)

Comp Sci is theory
Software Engineering is application

Generally you want to go for software engineering.
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>>263120395
>he live in a country where higher education is not free.

Stay mad clapistani
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>>263120071
Yeah, money isn't worth it unless you have someone to blow money on/with

Adopt a kid..
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>>263120452

I knew a chick who was majoring in French Romantic period literature

how fucking esoteric can you get?
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College is bullshit guys.
The sooner you realize this, the better.
Don't get caught in the trap of going to graduate school.
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>>263116287
Are you me?
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>>263120549
the toll booth
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>>263120482
>always think about doing education
>realize it will never be like my chinese visual novels
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>>263120697
For most science you're pretty useless unless you get a masters at least.
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>>263120457
No trolling, it worked out well for me.
But the main thing is that you have to have a good work ethic to get a good graduate job.

Make small websites in your own time, even if they're shitty tumblr clones which you never actually use. Show initiative.
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>>263120697
>this is what high school failures actually believe
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>>263120071

>Being sad despite making that much money

>Not fucking the living daylights out of your dream girl
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>>263119830
>>263120289(me)

also, here is the list of courses you would take at my school during your junior and senior year if you wanted to be a software engineer
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>>263118384

>Literature, art and women's studies should be in Kill Yourself tier

Literature and art really shouldn't. Or rather, maybe they should, but it's honest to God not the fault of the Humanities in and of themselves that they've been co-opted in academia by SJWs and Cultural Marxists.

In a fair world, Lit and Art would be demanding degrees that required actual technical skill in writing and painting/draftsmanship, as opposed to the hugboxes they are now.

That's also why Music isn't a low tier degree either. You have no idea how demanding and technically focused (to the point of overdoing it, even) the atmosphere at a conservatory is.
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>>263120693
I think 19th century indian underwater basket weaving wins that contest
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>>263120379

He probably went calculus monkey mode (this is how we used to call it back in the Uni).

You HAVE to either be extremely smart in the research areas or have a manager-like behavior.

If not, engineering will make you become only a calculus monkey, a trained drone that only obeys and calculates shit for other people.

This is the major engineering tip I can give.
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>>263120114
ah okay. nah computer science didn't seem to be what i wanted, so i went with software engineering. I just want to make games, so any finger in the right direction is helpful.

>>263120167
Seems close. Differences obviously.

>>263120289
That makes sense. Thanks, I want to end up in software development. Was told to go to software engineering to get there. So i'll stick with SE for now, seems to be where I want to be.
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>>263120169
That's the thing though, History isn't just about history. It involves many courses in math, science, politics, and writing. Not as part of Gen. Ed. either, a History degree requires much more of those classes than standard Gen. Ed..

The most important thing your employer knows about you is that you are good at reading and writing, which is a very highly sought after skill for many jobs.
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>>263120445
I kinda buy into the "college is useless in internet age" jargon but then again nobody claims on their resume they graduated from google, and the ones that did became laughing stock.

Don't take /v/ advice, you're here because you can filter info and choose what's best for you.
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>mfw from family of poorfags
>mfw I worked as an artist and made decent money for what I did
>mfw I realized artists need rich parents to subsidize their lives.
>mfw I had to go back to school
>mfw computer science major
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>>263117626
>not going to trade school
>getting student debt
>not learning something practical when the petro dollar is on the verge of failing
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>>263117626

>tfw changed CS to economics

W-well
Atleast I like it far more than CS, atleast I can give actual fucking tips to friends and dont need to hide or describe exactly what CS is to normalfags
I will probably go to a bank tho
Im glad im not american tho
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>>263120660
>Living in a country with no top 100 Universities

Even the Canadians are laughing at you
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>>263117626
>astronomy
>neuroscience
>garbage

They're literally the only interesting fields of study on the planet.
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>>263114661
Hey! that's me back then.

I ended up programing for an insurance company though.

>pic related if you know what I mean
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>>263119413

>Implying Liberal Arts major is worth anything

>Implying CS isn't.

In the future, everyone will be CS or unemployed. Liberal Arts will just be unemployed sooner.
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>>263121083
>"says here you 'studied on the internet'?" how exactly does that make you qualified"
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>>263119650
look at community colleges/two year colleges. They usually have this kind of IT stuff.
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>>263116523
haha, good one anon
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Anymore CS or SE grads here? Kinda wanna know what you thought about it before I start my Computer Science & Software Engineering course...
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>>263120697
I'm getting a CS associates solely to get the one true benefit of a degree:

Something to wave around for employers to see that I can actually apply myself

Actually getting a CS job is laughable because I can only afford to go to super cheapo college, so of course they only teach you simple syntax, and never bridge that gap between "Here do this tiny math problem that makes these words go on the screen" and "How to make something another person would actually use"
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>>263114661
It probably helps
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>>263120901
You mean it actually works? Thanks for the good news anon!
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>>263115150

>thinking you will ever be anything
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It seems to me like no matter what course you pick, somebody will always say "This will never get you a job". It’s honestly stressing me out as somebody who's 18 and on their last year of high school
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>>263120882
That's why you look at where the demand is in your country, and work towards getting402 high paying job there instead.

Unlesss you're A material, you're not getting a job in the pure sciences.
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>>263121295
>What is a portfolio?
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>>263117626
There is literally nothing wrong with computer science considering there are a shit ton of jobs out there for graduates in the UK.

Wish I had done it instead of Electrical Engingeering
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>>263121045
Then why don't you get a degree in journalism, english, or an accounting related major? Why go for a jack of a trades degree that is overly inflated in the current market? If you want to get into management even a pleb business management degree is a better option.
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>>263117626
where does audio production and music fit in there?
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>>263121318
I'm actually in a community college right now.
But I'm the one majoring in Computer Science.

I guess I should try to talk to an advisor?
Man this is so confusing and uneasy, and it's real stressful cause you don't want to go to far, waste too much time or money in a field you hit a brick wall and realize you're just not capable of
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>>263120998
That's actually very insightful

What define manager like behaviors? Are they born sleazebags or something?
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>>263120656
Thank you. This thread has helped put a few fears to rest. Just hope I can handle it, should have no problem. Thanks anons.

>>263120932
This actually seems like what I want.
So many majors are too similar. Excited to start college. On the way to do what I want to do in life.
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>>263121456
...So you studied architecture on the internet?
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>>263121443

everyone on /v/ just likes to give each other copious amounts of shit. Just to what you are passionate about.

That being said, getting something outside a STEM based degree won't get you a job
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>>263121539

Its on the
>I hope you got contacts
tier
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>>263121456
>"your portfolio says you 'made some sick scripts that totally fucked up someones facebook i think', how does that work exactly?"
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>>263121174
I went to Concordia University in Montreal, all was paid through grants ad gaming the system.
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>>263115150
>Thinking reading Wikipedia once in a while makes you educated
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what's with the psychology hate?

i mean i get that there are a bunch of stupid cockmonglers among them but it seems to be interesting

i mean everywhere are people talking nonsense
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MChofImMAY8
>LOOK MA I'M A DOCTOR
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>>263121456
That doesn't speak for every single major
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>>263119413
The professor gave a valid response without going into detail why this guy is just baiting or whatever.

CS is not about playing vidya and google. This is the reason why 99% of the people drop out by Logical Programming or anything similar.
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>>263121646
Check my github you fucking faggot. Hire me.
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>in college now
>majoring in history
>mfw anyone ask my major
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>>263121639
guess i'm fucking set then, got networks out the ass due to fraternies and recording industry clubs
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>>263114661
FUCKING TOP KEK

Comp SCI is the best program if you want to make vidya
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>>263121394
Hope it works out for you too.
currently making £55k in London 3 years after graduation, with bonuses at least equalling my salary. That's what you can look forward to if you're good.
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>>263120867
>Male
>Want to go into middle school specifically, the one no one WANTS to do
>Getting a teaching degree and certificate in Illinois
>Basically means I'm qualified to teach in any state
>History major secondary education with a something or other I forget the term in English
>Bachelors in Science too cause lolart
>Gonna try to teach English to 3rd world babbies for the peace corp
>Mfw all this marketability
Imma be swimming in job oppurtunities and I got hella connections
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>>263121443
Literally no degree will get you a job. That used to happen in the past because going to college was way more rare, but now that never happens. You won't graduate and have people call you asking you to accept a job anymore.

You have to show passion and skill during an interview now to get a job, despite having a degree saying that you have both.

That's just the way it is.
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>>263121443

Lol yeah funny how no one ever said that about fields like "Medical Doctor" or "Petrochemical Engineer"
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>>263121654
That's not the same thing as university for free you dumb son of a bitch.
Anyways
>Concordia
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>>263117626
>STEM trying to justify their shallow lives
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>>263117626
>CS
>Makes just a little less than chemical engineering
>Kill yourself tier
Seriously, how dumb are you?
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>>263121810
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Anyone else do some of their gen eds at a community college. Shits way fucking cheaper.
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>>263115150
better be one of those pathetic garage biologists huh?

muh million dollars molecular labs
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>>263121556
I knew someone who majored in biology and is now teaching english to korean kids

You can also major biology and land in a film studio, your career only goes as far as you're skillful
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>>263117626

>physics

Physics is just knowing complex things for the reason of knowing complex things.

It's like math with nojobs.

Bazoomba-tier.
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>tfw 4.0 with 3 semesters left in computer engineering degree at a decent (for public) school
>awarded for being top 1% of college academically

>nobody in interviews has ever even mentioned this beyond "oh cool"
I just want all of you to know that are starting out, grades are a waste of time.
Just make cool shit, build up a portfolio, and fuck the grades.
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>>263121818

Develop a great personality and speaking skills, and do a shitload of networking, and you'll easily be employable.

Honestly, it doesn't matter tremendously what your degree is so long as you are a master networker.
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>listened to /v/ and my parent's advice about what to study
>ended up picking accounting because science and math 2hard4me
>realize accounting takes more memorization than basic high school science (which i barely passed)
>other business fields require me to be social, which i cant do

neets dont know how good they have it. i guarantee im failing out by the end of this semester
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If you are not STEM get the FUCK out of this thread you basic unemployed bitches.
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>>263121524
>overly inflated in the current market

Computer Science and Business are literally the top majors at most colleges surrounding me. The scales are tipping, and soon the Liberal Arts majors will b e back in demand.
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>>263121346

UK CS 2014 grad here.
If it's anything like ours, first year is just getting everyone up to speed (don't expect Haskell, don't expect anything challenging if you know Java reasonably well)

2nd year is alright, take optionals that you really don't know (not web dev, something like German or whatever) it's the only time you will.

3rd is where V-TEC kicks in (if you're a scrub). I did a lot of 'pure-CS' stuff, algorithms, FP, compiler theory etc.
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>>263119238
If you're not a doctor, or a scientist of some sort, you're not contributing to anything.
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Is Literature really that bad of a degree? I'm 18 and I have no idea what to pick. Deadlines are approaching and Literature is the only thing I'm remotely good at.
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>>263116597
>Keep having this fear i'm going to finish college and find out it's not what I wanted at all.
It's cool, I had exactly that happen to me this year. I did a masters in computer science with games development and after doing ten times as much work as the guys on the regular computer science masters I decided it wasn't worth it. Having decided that, I was so worried about after graduation that I ended up drinking half a bottle of vodka a night just to get to sleep. Then I got a job after like 3 interviews. Provided that it's a good course, the stuff they'll teach you will be really easily transferable to any kind of computer science job. Don't worry too much about it.
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>>263121851
Exactly this. The thing is, most people spend so much time with exams and course work they can't do anything that show's they're passionate about their field. It's a legitimate trap created by older generations so they can keep their jobs longer.
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>>263117626
demigod: biophysics

exploring stuff with lasers n shit
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>>263121869
I was not him, just saying how the Canadians university sucked. I agree with you. Anyway, I now have a nice job in Ottawa working for the csis
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>>263121872
i love coming into these threads to see faggots like you who know nothing about employment opportunities offered by STEM majors
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>>263117626
>Computer Science

Jokes on you, I'm Computer Information Systems master race. You can't outsource network security to India, unlike programmerfags.
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>>263121941
>being a gen ed
>finally stop being a faggot and pick a fucking major
>find out you took too many bullshit classes that aren't relevant
>cheaper
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>>263122087
I think thread was started to spite you fucks
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>>263116692
animu fag

have a nice life. good luck in the work force, neet
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>>263119238
Whatever you say granddad. There is literally no reason to go to college at all, we are well and truly into the information age. You could learn any skill you desire right now at the click of a button with no strings attached and if a career is what you are after build a portfolio as you learn which far beats out a certificate as it shows experience outright. Hell, there isn't even a single certificate outside of medical certification that can't be acquired online either.
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>>263122087
muh stem
Kek someone has to manage you autists
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>graduated with a computer science degree
>half the jobs I've interviewed for only ask for you to be educated up to GCSE or A Level

I've been thinking recently that I should have considered doing an apprenticeship. Uni was a mixed bag and I got really bad marks (D gets Degrees and all that).
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>>263121757
>stoll

do you even speak german? do you have an idea of who this guy is?
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>>263121818
People always go for degrees to get them jobs in those fields. History majors are different, they get a degree that opens up to many fields.

This is, of course, at the cost of having no specific career path in mind.
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>>263114661
>having goals in life

oh wow what a loser

fuck off OP
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>Be 18 years old
>Go to college, pick Programming/Engineering
>Most of my classes are about complicated stuff that I've never even heard of
>Teachers just give you a brief summary, tell you the what you have to do and what date you have to present it and then start being lazy cunts during the rest of the classes, not giving your advices/explaining how you're supposed to do that shit or anything.

Fuck.
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>>263122142

it's useless. Sure, I think it is important to be well read and understand it on a deeper level, but in terms of the workplace, nobody is going to pay you $100,000 a year to read Great Expectations and give me a 15 page essay on Pip
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>>263121443
A degree isn't what gets you the job. It certainly helps (just having a degree shows you can sit down and apply yourself), but it's not all of it.

If you go into something where this is applicable, your college classes can help you build a portfolio to show off things you can do. College is also great place to start networking in your chosen field and also a place to experiment to see WHICH field you want to go into. Sadly if you're a poorfag (like me) you don't get that luxury and you have to find something and stick with it to the bitter end, liking it or not.

The only way a degree would really net you a job is if you go into something like anesthesiology.
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>>263121602
College is hard.
But try to have fun while you're working.

I didn't and I regret it.
too busy shitposting on 4chan
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>>263122091
You are totally delusional dude, heres a recent Georgetown survey. https://www.cgsnet.org/ckfinder/userfiles/files/Unemployment_Final_update1.pdf

Wheres your stats man? Oh that's right you're a humanities major.
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>>263114661
>hey guys i wanna make vidya
>I-I ONLY UNDERSTAND DESIGN NOT CODING
>W-WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT CAN'T BE IMPLEMENTED
>W-WHWAT DO YOU MEAN DO IT YOURSELF

Please. Comp-Sci is the ultimate for people taht want to actually make games, you get all the kills you need, and merely by existing you give artfags a purpose. You are literally a god.

Game design isn't taught, its a completely subjective experience, because remember that most corps think good game design is what makes them money, not what is actually FUN
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>>263114661
>going to uni
Do I fucking apprenticeship you drains on society. My biggest regret in life is going to uni instead of doing an electrician apprenticeship.
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>>263120071
You're an unhappy person though, so you would never have done a art major.
That's the thing, you have the cause and effect wrong, you aren't unhappy because of the degree, you got the degree because you are the kind of person who would put money above happiness.
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So what is the best course for a career in the game industry? CS? Software Engineering? Game Design? Game Development? Rank em.
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>>263122091
> and soon the Liberal Arts majors will b e back in demand.
Okay anon, you have five minutes to justify this outlandish claim. Keep in mind I am currently majoring in French and minoring in English
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>>263122015
You know nothing about physics but I forgive you
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>not learning a skilled trade
>giving money to the academic jew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60_YQbPBoV8
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>>263122028
>build up a portfolio

This so fucking much.
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>>263121563

> Pro-activity
Not that bullshit you write in your CV, but being known as "that guy who gets shit done", which is less than you are expected to be if you become a manager.

> Problem Solver
Be that guy who looks for shit to fix and to get straight. You sniff trouble and FIND A WAY TO FIX IT. (pairs with pro-activity)

> Be Good With People
I don't mean be a TV host, you can be quite shy, but you HAVE to know how to behave and communicate in a way that people will like you

> Knowledge
Know your shit, know everything, a manager is supposed to manage many people with different jobs. Many engineers become specialized in one thing and know this thing only: this kills the manager.

> Don't Deliver Shit Late
Just do everything in their time and be iffy about your schedules.

This sums it up pretty much. You also need to be able to deal with a shit ton of information coming from all directions and to be able to lead in the mess they make.
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>>263122397
>tfw spent 90% of my time on 4chan

Good times.
Good times.
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>>263122226

Struggling to give a fuck, I'm drinking with the money earned from a job that uses my STEM degree.

We're having a mild circlejerk here, and that's how it's gonna be, son.
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I'm going through EMT right now and Paramedic after that. Mostly, I just want to be called PARAMEDIC, but the extra money is nice. I sure can't wait to have 12 hour shifts of chaos and frequent callers for only 38k a year. But if I have a heart attack, at least I'll probably be in the ambulance already.
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>mfw majoring in criminal justice
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So has anybody even supplied an explanation as to why you would not major in computer science if you wanted to make games or are you losers going to listen to this hightime FAGGOT who posts internet taunts?
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>>263122213
You can't outsource any project to India. The only time it actually works is when you outsource to a company for the project's entire lift time.

Programmers will never have to worry about losing their jobs to outsourcing.
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>>263122458
CS
software engineering
scam
scam
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>>263122567

Are you going to Law School?
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>>263118475
Blondes having brown eyebrows is pretty normal, m8
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>>263117626
>astronomy in go fucking kill yourself tier
I advise you to consider a timely demise. Thank you, Earthling.
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>>263121850
>WANTING to do middle school

So I take it you've lost all will to live, but find that you aren't worth the sweet embrace of death?
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>>263122028
Yup.
Where someone went to college is useless now.
It's all about what do you have to show outside of that.
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>>263114661
>going to college period
>not making hundreds of thousands a year with the family trade
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>>263122216
I have a major. I'm just finishing my gen ed at a community college this semester because the credit transfers in, but the grades don't.
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>>263115386
Youll get something, took me about 4-5 months
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>>263122091
In demand to do what

Teach more chumps liberal arts so they can spend thousands on college and have no useful skills?
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>>263122196
Canadian universities in the grand scheme of things are pretty fucking good though.
>Csis
Fascinating, tell me what you majored in/how you went about getting a job there
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>>263122458
Software engineering if you want to code.
Be generally good at art if you want to do other things.

I have absolutely nothing against CS majors and genuinely enjoyed every class I took that was more CS focused.

But I have seen so many CS majors close to graduating that cannot code worth shit.

Nobody cares if you can describe how data structures work.
Can you actually fucking implement them and use them to make more complex shit?
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>Do absolutely awful my first year at uni
>Only pass one paper
>It's not even what I came to uni for (botany)
>End up enjoying it a lot
>Make it my major
>Get conditional enrolment into 2nd year, only if I retake a few papers and get good grades
>Fast forward to this year
>4th year Botany major with a minor in Ecology and Zoology
>Getting B+s and As easily
>Decide I want to continue onto a masters degree next year
>Get told I should wait for this semesters results as I need a B+ average to get it
>Freak the fuck out and think it's the average for my entire academic record
>Do the maths
>My average is a C
>Holy fuck my first year is dragging me down what do i do ohgodicanthandlethis even if I get 4 A+s this semester it wont be enough
>Lecturer calms me down and says it's the average for your third year papers only

God that was stressful, I almost had to change my entire life plan
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>>263122449

I actually just enjoy chemical engineering. I never asked for this.
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>>263122610

the only worry I have is companies are losing IT departments because now entire companies exist to be the IT department of multiple companies. So instead of hiring 5 IT guys for one company, the company just pays for the service of a company that is like 30 IT guys
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>majored in computer science
>don't want to make video games, but mobile games are very profitable
>get a job making mobile apps, form a team on the side to make mobile games
>life is great
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>Second year Economics major

I never thought I would actually know some of the stuff about business that seemed too confusing. I like it too, whenever asks they act like I'm crazy but it's just basic math/graphs and looking at do$h
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>>263122087

>Science
Arguably the best one out there
>Engineering
Can be automatized
>Math
Can't
>Technology
Depends on the first and second and has a low risk of getting irrelevant due to the introduction of perfect AI's some point in history

Its not untouchable really

Its like contributing to your own unemployment
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>all these people in thread claiming college is useless when the internet exists.

Well? If college is so useless then what job do you have with knowledge gained only from the internet? Are you currently an engineer, a lawyer, a doctor, an accountant? Of course not. you either have no job or are working for minimum wage and waste the rest of your day shitposting on /v//
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>>263122513
>have been a manager in the past
>my spaghetti prevents me from the good with people part
Luckily i'm so good at the problem solving and pro-activity part of being a manager that people want me, Knowledge is easy and so is the last part.
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>>263122458
CS and software engineering.

Consider the rest irrelevant unless you're interested in gay shit like art.
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>>263122458
Anything to do with games is shit.
Systems architect looks nice. So go with something like that I guess
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>>263122569
You WOULD major in computer science if you want to make games. But just because you want to make games doesn't mean you SHOULD major in computer science.
There's a lot of math involved in getting your degree, and what you learn is more on the technical side of game design, which may scare off some people with a lack of STEM skills.
If you only want to make video games, try a digital arts degree.
If you want to program anything, and have the option to make video games, then yes, go for a computer science degree.
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>>263122807
>cannot code worth shit
>this is the fault of the students
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>>263122091
>Liberal Arts majors
>demand

yeah, i bet the Liberal Arts industry will be on the rise, creating large amounts of jobs requiring a Liberal Arts education
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>>263122886
>second year

so young. so naive.

get out while you can
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>>263114661
I majored in Computer Science to fix computers, and cry into my sleep each times people bring me a computer with 1,2k+ spywares on them.

I majored in Computer Science to build 20-30 PC for schools or cities for an easy $25k in one week.
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>>263122251
Yeah and having that degree could mean the difference between making 40K a year and 70K a year.
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>doing CS at a community college
I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT I'M DOING
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>>263122996
god i love coding
it makes me feel like a wizard
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>>263122320
yes, i only watched some of his videos, it's tiring but also funny sometimes

why are you asking?
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>>263122918
>>Engineering
>Can be automatized
How do you figure? You're saying a computer is able to completely design space shuttles and shit? Who do you think designs them>
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>>263114661
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>>263122936
>having a job making money while others are putting themselves in student loan debt to work a job they hate

k
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>>263122886
>mfw economics majors
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>>263122469
Everyone is afraid of getting a "useless degree", you need no more proof than this very thread.

When people want a "useful degree" they are instantly pushed towards Business or Computer Science because they are booming.

You can just guess what the fuck is going to happen in about 10 years: CompSci and Business grads will not be able to get any jobs because they are all full from the current boom of previous grads.

The choice is yours, get a degree that the majority of college grads will have, or get one that you know they won't have and will teach you things they could never learn.
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>>263121178
Dead job market, at least for astronomy.
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>>263121627
LOL
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>>263122807
Some schools (my own as an example) has software engineering integrated with computer science, and just calls the major computer science.
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>tfw started CS a few weeks ago and already starting to regret it

God damn it, why didn't I go for math/physics. I can already program so I'm bored out of my ass right now.
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I'm doing a BA in English & American Literaure with Creative Writing.

Can I write video game stories?
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>>263117626
>getting paid $33/hr over the summer for doing comp sci as a 20 year old in college
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>>263123085

>tfw second year economics student

wh-why??

Econometrics?
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>Reading TV Tropes articles is actually more useful when it comes to writing than fucking English.
Get rekt.
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>>263123274
Yeah? Then prove you can get A's
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>>263122886
>>263123195
Isn't economics just a crap shoot where people basically have to just guess at what works and what doesn't?

There's too many variables to actually track any of it.
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>>263123119
How does it feel getting paid to fix something, that some schmuck could fix by using google and posting on like toms hardware
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>>263123134
same here, it's been a passion of mine for many years. I love it when all the components of a program come together to make it work
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>>263123218
Oh come on anon, the Faculty of Arts is almost always the largest of any given university, right next to science. And they're not getting any smaller.
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>>263123012
How can you graduate with a fucking masters and still not be able to do something as simple as a fizzbuzz?

There is no excuse.
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>>263123085
I've been uneasy about itsince nothing extremely troublesome has come up yet. Tell me what I am in for, please master senpai
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I'm going to be starting a Bachelor of Arts with a Major in English next year, been working a gap year to prepare myself financially. I'm super excited to get back into an academic environment, blue collar work really numbs the mind
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>>263123147

Physicians and Mathematicians can fullfill pretty much most of the engineer roles
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>>263122458
None of them.
Getting a career in the game industry sucks unless you're voice acting.
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>>263122918
>Can be automatized
I don't think you understand what engineers do. They aren't the guys turning the wrench, they are the guys who design the wrench.
>Perfect AI
Stop smoking the ganja carl.
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>>263122807
It largely depends on the institution they graduated from. CS is a largely academic field with little practical work involved and that is how most universities teach it. If one were to go to college to take a software engineering course, the opposite would be more likely.
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>zero IT qualifications
>work as a sub contractor for home user and small business IT support
>change 120/hr for data transfer, ring ISP because people forget their passwords and run malware bites to remove all the ride-alongs and trojans they download
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>interview for a job
>told I need more experience
>need that job to get more experience
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>>263123331
>Reading anything in english improves your english

No shit
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>making connections is everything guys
>STEM is everything guys
>when you have crippling social anxiety and have never initiated a conversation with someone during 5 years at university in a non STEM major

fug
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>>263121346
Software engineering is cool.
Comp Sci is theory heavy but ok.

I took math as a second major because it was fun so didn't have time for opionals.
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>majoring in video game science to make computers
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>>263123407
Nope, it's a field ruined by politics.
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>>263123275
Overqualified.
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>thread about university and degrees
>my old uni is on fire right now
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>>263114661
>Start a 5 year masters program in computer science with the dream of becoming a vidya dev.
>slowly realize computer science is not vidya,
>feels bad man
>do bachelor thesis for a big oil company
>asked my mentor at the oil company what the starting pay in the company was for someone with a CS masters degree.
>94k/y
>feels good man
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>>263123131
Don't fall into the trap of what I did and not do very much at home. Granted I'm depressed, but thats no excuse to keep from applying yourself

They WILL NOT teach you how to code for a program that another human being will use. You have to make that jump yourself and you may very well be completely lost for quite a while.

Also, never be afraid to google how to do shit, because if you're making code as a job you're gonna be doing it on a computer with internet access.
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>not studying Law

Chaosfags get outta here.
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>>263114661
>Majoring in applied math to make a web browser
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>>263123147
He's a fucking moron with zero understanding of reality. Leave him be.
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>>263123407

Its probably shit-tier on america
Its goat anywhere else
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>>263123497
Then why don't they?

It's almost like there's a lot more to it than that
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>>263122795
Software engineering and nepotism. I'm just an office worker though, no spying for me. It's easy to apply and a nice job, just be sure to have your top secret security clearance before the interview, it will go smoother that way.
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>>263122996
Don't get into CS to make video games, do it because you like computer theory, coding, etc.
http://youtu.be/lGar7KC6Wiw
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>>263122491

You wanna' see something that never happens on /v/? You're 100% right. I don't know shit about physics, and I just wanted to shitpost a little while taking my NEET-frustration out over someone doing something a lot more complicated than anything I could ever understand. I genuinely sorry.

And now you're wondering if I'm joking.

I'm not.
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>>263123218
CS degrees are not the majority coming out of most colleges. Colleges are actually more female than male,

Males are over-represented in STEM fields in both college and actual shit.

If you actually look at the number of STEM majors, let alone Computer Science/software engineering majors coming out of college, we literally CANNOT MEET THE DEMAND of the industry

CS is like free jobs right now, and for the foreseeable future as the modern world becomes more and more digital, those who can code will be invaluable.
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>>263123274
You just wait till your little ass gets to Data Structures and Linear Algebra.
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>>263123280
>Being able to work anywhere in the modern world because comp sci is need everywhere
>Making only a little less than the "God tiers" on that list
>Lying about your job because it sounds nerdy and just saying engineer sounds a little cooler
Computer science is really only bad if you fuck it up, I think people think it's shit because a lot of gamer designers have a comp sci degree, so it drags down the average.
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>>263123124
Only if you're a retard that doesn't know how to sell himself. If you honestly believe a company wouldn't immediately hire somebody that has shown themselves to be the most qualified regardless of what certification they hold you are a mong.
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>op posts a true statement
>couples it with the shittiest show created by humanity

oh the dillema.
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>>263123553
I know that feel
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>>263117626

>tfw Linguisticsfag
>tfw no one will ever throw a shitfit about your major because very few people can pass the classes

Well I feel better now
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>>263123446
Feels funny. People are retarded when it comes to computers. I used to do it for $20/hour when i started. I know places that ask $60/hour to do that kind of shit.

Check Google, read manuals, most of the time.
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>>263121850
You've set yourself up great. It's a shame teaching isn't really for me, I'd definitely do something like you.

Good luck.
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>>263122267
Uhh, hope you have work experience or side projects.

I wouldn't hire anyone with a D or a C average.
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>>263121746
Certainly doesn't make you any less informed on a particular subject.
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>tfw I became a CS major because I wanted to build complex AI, hoping to become one of the first scientists part of a group creating the first actually sentient AI
>mfw I learn how much of a failure the AI field is, and how the "top" researchers of the field have their heads so far up their asses
>mfw the field is being encouraged to split up and specialize, even though that won't get us anywhere because the researchers will end up putting their knowledge to more practical applications
>mfw the only people who seem to care about the field now are Google, and they are shitting it up by making it more about data analysis than the studying of human cognition


>mfw I will never make 7th generation onaholes
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Let's get this started
>college is useless in internet age
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>>263118078
>>philosophy not at least top tier
Good luck trying to get employed with that if you don't want to become a priest.
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>>263115840
I work with a girl that went to full sail. 100% got the job because of her vagina. Disgusting.
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>>263123449
it feels so good to understand the mysteries that most plebs have not the slightest clue of understanding

Truly we are modern wizards
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>>263123475
One of the guys on my uni course graduated with a 2:1 and is now working for Lloyds bank. He didn't know what getters and setters are or how to use pointers and references.
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>>263123728
Well yeah, of course. That's not to say that you can't go on to make video games after you've majored in CS though.
I'm currently a CS major, and worked on video game projects for a couple of my classes. They turned out pretty decently.
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>>263123892
A bit late to the party mate
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>>263123510

Well the process of designing the wrench can be patterned and automatized

If you need upgrades, physicians can do that just as well
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>>263122373
The main point of college to to teach you how to teach yourself.
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>>263114939
Console sciences
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>>263123769
>linear algebra is hard
I didn't get an A but the course was just fucking with matrices and sets, etc.

How about pure computer theory? Wait for that, you fag.
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>>263121174
>UVIC
Hey I'd never think I'd see my university posted here
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>>263123269
That's mostly how mine works too.
There are several courses focused on larger scale projects however that are NOT part of the CS curriculum but are part of CpE at my school.

And this
>>263123526
is more what I was getting at, sorry if it wasn't clear.
That's why I said I have nothing against it.
But a lot of people don't even realize the difference until its too late and they don't know what they thought they should know.

This is totally the fault of the students, I'm merely explaining that here (along with several other people) in the hopes someone reads it and pays attention when they start signing up for classes or deciding a major to work towards.
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>>263122529

I could go for a good circlejerk.
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>>263123881
Sounds naive but couldn't you gather some homies and create your own little labratory to focus on that field?
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>>263123632
>Don't fall into the trap of what I did and not do very much at home. Granted I'm depressed, but thats no excuse to keep from applying yourself
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>>263123475
You'd have to have zero interest in your degree to not be able to do that.

Which still isn't the fault of the students.
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>>263123449
Nef pls go
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>>263123724
Man even lame ass Canadian spying still sounds like fun. I bet you have to serve in the military though or something. How is living in Ottawa? I've heard some people say it's a nice little city and some other people say it's a shithole
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>>263123624
>majoring in something when you don't even know what it is or what kind of job it will get you
>i am the 99%
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>>263123892
Those cookies look fucking delicious, how do I make them?
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>>263123785
Except I've seen them do this. Myself and one other guy were just as qualified for a job but I had a degree and he didn't. Guess who gets paid more?
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>>263118919
You could assemble them. Not much math needed there.
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>>263123274
As someone who has never seen code before I started class, my first couple CS classes were piss boring too.

They gotta start at a pace the slower students can catch on to.
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>>263123745
If you want the truth, I'm History major with a minor in CompSci because people scared me into thinking I'd have no future.
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>>263123881
I feel that pain, anon
I feel that pain
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>>263123769
i'm in data structures right now
Linked lists are fascinating
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>>263123986
Christ I didn't even get a third and even I know that shit. I should have tried more and drunk less.
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I'm majoring in Networking, what would that come under as?
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>>263114661
>Majoring in CS ever
>Not majoring in CE or math
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>>263124148
>Which still isn't the fault of the students

After four fucking years it is.
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>>263115150
I don't want to live in a box
It doesn't matter how much you know. it matters what it says on the 100,000$ piece of paper
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>>263123892
i like those fucking cookies
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>>263123892
Nobody said it was useless, just that autodidactism is vastly superior when you have thousands of experts and veterans at your fingertips willing to give you a leg up for free. Unless of course you're one of those "b-but muh qualifications mean everything, employers are robots and degrees are magic instant job passes!" faggots.
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>tfw wont be in college until at least next year because of fucking up life
>still have no idea what i want to do and feel constantly pressured on figuring out what to do
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>>263122918
>engineering
>automated

i don't think you know anything about engineering anon

engineering doesnt mean wearing yellow helmets and using wrenches to put screws in buildings
it's a creative design process aiming for a result that has to fulfill tight constraints and specifications.

>technology
>automated

research and development of new technologies can't be automated either, anon.
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>>263124110
I've the female to male ratio is 4:1. Is that true? And if it is how do you justify being a virgin?
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Who else is studying /pol/itics and/or /int/relations here?
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>>263124167
>implying I ever even tried to LOLHACK
I just made mods for games I used to play
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>>263123483
>English

huhuhu
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>>263124349
>majoring in math
>ever

I want to have a job.
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>>263123829
>mfw my families desktop breaks
>offer to fix it (I was just going to google shit for a few hours and probably run malware bytes)
>they say no, "anon you probably broke it with those games"
>I explain I built my own pc and any shitty games on theirs was probably my little brother
>they still refuse and get some guy who is only a year or so older from bestbuy to fix it
>they charge like 90 bucks
>check it out when it gets back
>it runs fine, all they did was instal malware bytes and run ccleaner

I'd be mad but that fact you can run a business and make money doing that is something I gotta respect
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>>263124140
>homies

Once you get this far to realize how little the human race will accomplish in your lifetime, and how small the percentage is that you will have anything to do with those accomplishments, you have no "homies" left
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>>263115150
Thank you, I did not know that I could freely download the equipment and machinery that is needed for certain experiments in certain STEM majors to develop a solid understanding. You sure have taught me a valuable lesson, random NEET.
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>>263119180
Intro programming classes have very small amounts of math. Later programming classes have the potential to step it up quite a bit.
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>>263122267
Wait what? What are these jobs you speak of? Better not be retail, faggot.
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>>263124368
You can't expect me to believe you've encountered fourth-years who can't fizzbuzz.
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Are Software Engineering and Computer Science usually offered in a hybrid class or are they usually separate?
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>>263124180
No need of any military background for office job. Compared to Montreal Ottawa socks big time, everything is so boring but it could be worse, it could be toronto.
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>>263117626
>written by a physicist who can't even solve a simple three-body problem and wants to feel good about himself.
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>tfw you got into CS because vidya
>first year
>horrible programming grades
>bored as fuck
>"well...just gotta wait till later..i-it gets better..."
>Second year
>Can't still program shit
>Start to learn assembly
>Give up
>Go to economics
>Be happiest you ever been at college with B's and A's everywhere

Atleast I will not kill myself at 40 years old now
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>>263124047
A Physicist that creates upgrades is by definition an "engineer".
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>>263124047
>Well the process of designing the wrench can be patterned and automatized
But that's only because the wrench has already been designed. What happens when you need to design something that doesn't exist?

>If you need upgrades, physicians can do that just as well
>physicians
Oh god forget it, you're a baiting retard
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>take on a CS degree at an average university
>get a first class honours
>realise that I have no interest in programming as a career
>get completely lost thinking of other jobs I'd like to try
>end up getting a job in Software QA
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>>263124167
>Hating on Perl
Fucking little shit
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why oh why did I choose DeVry

i'm a faggot
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>>263122726
Surprisingly I like dealing with them and they seem to respond well to me with all the summer camp counseling work I've done.
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>>263124567
>This

Math is amazing paired with other shit as a double major. But by itself it's shit.
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>getting a degree to get a job

You realize that you are setting yourself up for failure as soon as you get into an interview, right?

>"Why did you major and Computer Science and why do you want this job?"
>I... uh... I- I wanted money??
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>>263119276
>wrench wielding engineers
You are either in the wrong line of work, or your employer is gonna get pissed when he realize you ain't doing your job
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>>263114661
>mfw EE major
>mfw it's actually pretty fun
Why do so many people bitch about Engineering? Building circuits and writing down results, working with complex numbers and applying functions to real life, it's so much fun.
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>>263119180
>>263118393
The largest amount of math you'll find in CS is from algorithm design. That's about it.
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>>263124567
There is a lack of mathematicians in the developed world. Move out of India
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>>263124571
reminded me of this
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>>263124654

Does he have a engineering degree?

If I had went different paths I would like to have gone down to physics
Its goat, but my fucking shit-tier physics education at high school never allowed this feeling to nurture
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>>263124575
m8 just having positions open for 'those passionate about the study of sexbots' will have have you flooded with applications in no time
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Fuck you OP I got my System Engineering degree and still cant make games ;__;

>>263124140
If you want it to go anywhere you need to do it full time, If you get someone's money sure get some "homies"
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Average bio student here, gonna be applying for my Masters next year. Thing is I found out it asks for two referrals, and I barely interact with my profs. What do?
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>>263124184
i was 18 when applying to collage, met any 18 year olds with an intelligence to be admired lately?
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>>263124804
There's nothing wrong with getting a degree because you want a job, but you should have a motivation beyond just that.
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>>263124731
People actually go to those schools?
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>>263122567
Court?
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>>263124731
get out fast anon. There are several places that require that you didn't get a degree from DeVry. Also

>He goes to DeVry
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>>263124714
He has highly intelligent intelligence and is very intellectual, anon.
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>>263118357
Philosophy won'y get you a job man. I'm taking a minor in philosophy because I find it genuinely interesting but my major in Engineering possibly branching into Physics if it takes.
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>>263124784

I'm majoring in computer science and minoring in Math. I don't wanna double major cause I'd have to take a fuck ton of physics classes and I am horrible at Physics (they make them as hard as fucking possible here).

Is..that..that good?
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>>263124191
The key word being just as qualified. If you put "degree" on your resume and some other guy puts down "30 years of practical experience" you can be damn certain they are going to give the snivelling child the boot. As a bonus I have seen the opposite of your scenario happen dozens of times. .
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>>263117626
Why is Medicine in low tier?
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>>263124349
Math is a shit major unless you become an actuary, then it's no better than CS
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>>263124550
I'm gonna make the most of what I get because after working a blue collar job for 4 years I know what awaits me if I don't try something academically
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>>263124825
Why not Computer Engineering Master Race? You get the best of both worlds! CS + EE!
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>>263124493
I don't think it's that extreme but yeah I've noticed a lot more girls than guys.

How do I justify being a virgin? Focusing on my studies. At least for the last 2 years I have been, now I'm trying to work on meeting some people. So now my excuse is that I'm a shut-in.
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>Go into IT, because I'm shit at math.
>Highest math I have to go to is Pre-calc.
>Do well in every math class.
>Get hyped for pre-calc.
>Getting an F so far.

Studying 2 hours a night just isn't cutting it. It's like my brain simply refuses to learn. It's even worse that there's no partial credit, the tests are all online, and we can't use calculators.

When will I even need to use this shit? Statistics makes sense. I got that. But why would I need pre-calc for web design or database development?

>>263124567
500k. STARTING.
Any job I want.
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>>263122807
A lot of colleges fall under the trap of getting all the theory and syntax done, but never application.

So you have a fuckton of CS students being released with no idea how to translate their degree into the skill that is expected out of it.

It's especially bad for the kinds of students who have a bad time learning on their own. I'm the kind of person who can stare at a book about a new topic and it'll be like I suddenly became illiterate. And then someone will explain it to me and I'll have a blank look trying to parse it, until it finally is repeated in a way where everything clicks and I can suddenly do the next ten chapters of the book with ease.
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>>263124645
>CS
>assembly
Shouldn't have panicked.
You never fucking need it unless you want to become highly specialized in embedded systems design and nobody enjoys using it.
Just reading it makes me ill.

Glad you're happier now though anon.
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>>263124804
>Not actually doing shit on the side while getting your degree so you actually have shit to put on your resume

Why do people assume this
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>>263123632
a lazy programmer is a good programmer
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>>263124731
I heard DeVry is the hardest school to get into.

Because no one can find the building
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>>263124645
how are you so shit at programming

also programming in assembly is probably the most pure form of procedural design and you'd have to be an idiot to not understand it unless it was doing bit-masking or optimization
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>>263123881
know that feel bro

I went ahead and studied AI pretty hardcore anyways when I was in CS. I think I'd rather have lots of money now than study it though.
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>>263125006
Yes but how does one escape this hellhole? Wouldn't that affect my loans and shit? I don't understand how this shit works

>implying I wasn't drunk when I picked my school
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>There are people on /v/ RIGHT NOW who are not in ROTC or at an Academy, studying a STEM field, with goals of becoming a fighter pilot.
TOP
FUCKING
LEL
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>>263124914
Really? You just found out you need referrals for grad school? Next youre going to tell me you didnt do any research.
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>that feel when nothing in university interests you

reading this thread and seeing how adamant and enthusiastic people are about their fields is depressing...so much so i actually think people are pretending to enjoy what they study so they dont suicide
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>>263120954

Even if the Arts weren't co-opted by SJWs, they would still be garbage.
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>>263124951
>>263124804
No you should just be motivated to bullshit. You know they don't expect you to be honest right?

Just give some generic answer like
>I like solving problems with a team and computer science seemed ideal for that
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>>263124804
Thats me. I want money. Is that so wrong? Do I need to bullshit and say that I have an interest and love computers?
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>>263120071
How old are you? lets be friends, im uninteresting poor guy
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>>263125118
I don't like working with actual computer soft ware too much, all physical. I wanna go into renewable energy or working at a reactor of some sort. Ever heard of an LFTR?
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What do you guys think about cisco networking major?
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>>263125342
>not TOP FUCKING GUN
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What's wrong with a psychology major?
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>>263125364
It's okay anon.
I hated uni too.
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>>263125364
what are you good at?
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>>263124571
It's funny, sometimes. You see old men bringing their pcs, with CP on their desktops, and browser memories visiting bestiality and incest sites. Them old men, man.
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>>263125025
Yes
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>>263117626
>STEM faggots think they are in charge of the world
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>>263122047
Keep trying, Anon. just don't give up.
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>>263124627
That's what I said when I heard it. I don't know if it's because of interview pressure or because they're looking for a cleaner solution in a short time frame, but it seems to be a common thing.

Lots of CS majors with even fucking masters can't program for shit.
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>>263120071

You don't spend the evenings alone because of the major you took in college. If you didn't have the job you do, you would be living the same, just with less money.
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>>263125284

>bit masking

Funny story
I quit after I had to do that and raged after a month of failure

I sucked at programming from the very beginning
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>>263125406
Oh yeah, definitely bullshit your way through interviews. I mean in general, if you have a personal motivation beyond just mad stacks you're much more likely to finish.
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>>263114661
I am graduating with a degree in computer science this year and many game design studios already have my resume sent out to them

I am well aware of how the industry works and know all the horror stories and problems that the current market suffers from.

it all doesn't matter

I promised myself when I was 6 years old playing on my SNES that one day I would help make the things I love and no amount of your shitposting will stop me
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>>263125121
>Cant use calculators in pre calc
I don't know what the fuck your pre calc class consists of, but we had to use calculators for some of that shit when I took it in HS.
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>>263125035
That's why you don't act like a hoitey toitey SOB just because you have a degree. No matter what your qualifications are there is always someone who is more qualified than you. However my starting pay was raised by quite a bit just because of the degree. It's like being an Eagle Scout and going into the U.S. Military. Gives you an extra boost.
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>not being NEET
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>>263117626
>not majoring in a foreign language.
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>>263125121
I'm going into calculus with trigonometry on my engineering course. I can get all of this but my calc professor is fucking terrible with explanations, a pure math major through and through.
HE can proof it twelve ways to sunday but not really EXPLAIN it.
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>>263125342
>Tfw can't because glasses
Fuck my family's bad genetics
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>>263123881
I remember when my CS professor told me how excited he was to get in to AI only to see they haven't really progressed that much since the 50s.
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>>263123147
Actually
Yeah. A computer will eventually be able to design the perfect space shuttle with the materials available to it. A computer will find the optimum technicalities and design it and go on to make more, perfect structures.

That's the end goal of technology.
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>>263124382
But even that doesn't matter anymore. Literally everyone has a degree these days. But there's no jobs.

Its all about work experience. Unless you are in a field such as computer science or the utility trade.

>>263122267
You're judged on you work ethic and experience. Nobody in the UK/Europe really gives a fuck about your degree.
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>>263125492
>What's wrong with a psychology major?

>psychology major
>a job well paying job
Pick one.
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>>263124047
I don't think you know what physicists (not physicians) and mathematicians really do every day

They're too busy researching new shit to have time to apply it to making designs, that's why engineers exist, they are in fact separate jobs
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>>263114661
>not getting a job in the financial sector
do you HATE money?
peasant.
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indie gamedev here

I minored in computer science and was frustrated by how disconnected from real-world tasks the low-level courses were. At the same time, the high-level courses had a tendency to require a math background that I did not and still do not possess. (Don't ask me how to calculate light and shadow on a bump map, the computer does that for me.)

So mostly I shrugged, got through the classes because they weren't very hard, and went back to screwing around with tools on my own. I'm really not sure how much, if any, my coursework helped.

On the other hand, I got the feeling that if I wanted to be hired by a larger company, a programming major might have been useful? My lack of formal knowledge of things steered me away from ever trying to get a job working for someone else.

Which in the long run was probably to my benefit because now I can sit back and laugh and keep all the money to myself, but there was a long road of starving indiehood to get here and not everyone ever will.

In conclusion, CS degrees are a land of many contrasts.
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>>263125121
Pre calc is harder than calc, so if you can get better, you'll have less problems later on.
Calc is the easiest shit ever.
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>>263124852
NO
THE THUMBNAIL IS ENOUGH TO MAKE ME RAGE
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>>263125338
Wow I feel sorry for you just get out before you become more in debt for a useless degree at a useless school.
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>>263125121
You're shit at pre-calc? Try fucking partial derivatives and integral decomposition or fucking series/sequences.

>>263125563
Yeah, I didn't have to do that (we only had to implement bubblesort in CISC at most). Assembly is hard to program in after 200 lines.
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>>263124575
With that attitude no wonder you're a downer who hasn't accomplished anything.
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>>263125343
Because I'm a dumbfuck who didn't make any plan Bs. I need referalls for getting into my second choice Masters program but not my first.
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>>263124603
Nope all IT or programming
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>>263123946
>implying philosophers aren't self employed and make money giving consultation and writing.
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>>263125364
Biochemical Engineering doesn't interest you?
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Why does everyone on 4chan have a superiority complex? I've never understood this. Is it just compensating for feelings of inferiority? "University Major" threads like this make me suspect the latter.
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I'm not good at math.

What are some good-paying majors for me?
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>>263125121
>tests online
why not just....use your calc without prof knowing
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>>263125691
but my american tvshows
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>>263123134
>>263123449
You guys understand it?
I work with decades old legacy code. It's still all magic to me.
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>really love Literature and plan to do it at Uni with maybe a Law conversion course after a year of Lit
>every class is feminist bullshit and has been since I was 11 years old.

Should I even fucking bother?
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>>263124382
>It doesn't matter how much you know. it matters what it says on the 100,000$ piece of paper

Precisely why I reject everything about college.

They don't tell students that the only way to truly succeed is through networking and connections. Not relying on that shit piece of paper to get you a job instantly. It doesn't work like that any more.
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>>263125669
Eventually. But certainly not in your lifetime. And probably not in the next thousand years. It's a moot point in terms of deciding which career to go into.

Still, until we have sentient AI, computers are only capable of doing what is told or create things with heavy guidance. They cannot design solutions to untried problems until then.
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>>263125654
As long as your eye prescription is worse than 8.00 diopters, you can get a waiver for PRK/Lasik
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>>263125519
>friend works for mom and pop pc store
>after half a dozen old man computers with cp he gets fed up
>next time he encounters a pc with cp
>deletes all of it and leaves pic related in is place
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>>263124645
But assembly is fun and even easier to understand than OOP.
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>>263125506
i wouldn't say i'm good or bad at anything. if i study i will do fine at anything but as the material gets more difficult, so does forcing myself to study
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>>263124938
This is what careers counsellors and teachers are for.
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>>263125587
Then why don't you make vidya?

Working in a dev studio isn't making vidya anon. Its being a worthless code monkey. At best you might be able get it on level design.

I don't understand you fags who want to make vidya but don't actually make vidya
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>>263125865
I want to feel powerful in terms of career and money. I wanna be the best and be superior over others and make them jealous
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>>263117626
>mfw my university got rid of its physics major since no one coming out of it could get a job

meanwhile 60-70k right out of school with comp sci majors
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>>263125519
Have you actually had people with things/dontclick/cp/cp on their computers?
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