Do you want more romance or more friendships in persona 5? Does the series already strike a good balance between the two to you?
I want neither.
Fuck the emphasis on social links. Scrap it and build a new game mechanic that doesn't turn the story into a metric ton of waiting around doing nothing with its inclusion.
I want characters with some depth and who are not just perfect, boring waifu bait. I'd rather romance where you are not the only eligible bachelor so it doesn't turn into more wish fulfillment. You're in a city, that just wouldn't make sense if all the cute girls lust after you alone.
I want to romance a guy just like Tatsuya did in his game.
P2 sucks as a game, but has good characters.
Pretty much anyone who played it either played it years and years ago, or suffered through the shitty ancient gameplay for the characters.
Best story and characters in the series, sadly P2 is one of those games were you have to explore a lot to see the characters many facets.
The gameplay is not that good but at least has hand made dungeons instead of randomk generated shit.
Hopefully we'll get the best parts of each game. P3/4's gameplay, P2's characters, and P1's dungeons.
I want actual dungeon crawling, like the Labyrinth of Amala from Nocturne.
Stop having long stretches where nothing happens in the game.
Your original Persona is actually useful and integral.
More like P3 or P2 soundtrack, fuck P4.
>Is it not popular enought?
Atlus doesn't even think about the games anymore.
P3 had references to old people on a TV show you could see some nights.
P4 pretty much dropped the references beyond the Blue Butterfly.
No. It got some short anime in P2 EP special eddition.
P1&2 are basically non canon since P3&4 doesnt even work by the same rules. Also ATLUS retconed them out of excistance.
Its nothing when you have played games like FF2.
You forget the most important game-tying reference.
I really want it to have everything BUT the combat of P2.
take one look at that protag and tell me you don't believe that p5 will feature the first canon homo-romance option
the SJW's have won. either that or the yaoi fangirls have.
>P1&2 are basically non canon since P3&4 doesnt even work by the same rules. Also ATLUS retconed them out of excistance.
Please stop saying stupid shit like this. I noticed despite what people say about P1/2, the persona fandom has a huge penchant for spreading rumors.
They are still connected but Atlus doesn't want to do anything with the old games except tease the fuck out of the older fans.
I'd just play SMT if that was what I was hankering for. It's gone the way it has because that's what they want out of the Persona spinoff. Hopefully they make more SMT games for you if that's what you want, anon.
you telling me you don't want to romance waifus as the world's girliest lumberjack?
That's why I said tease. It doesn't mean anything until they actually make confirmation.
Also if it is Nanjo he could be the other #1, who knows. Maybe zero. We will never know because nothing will ever come about it.
I think they struck a really good balance actually, but all the same i'd like more emphasis on the combat system this time around, if not in presence then just all-around improvement.
P3 and P4 were great games but their combat was really basic and did nothing but simplify as time went on. I'd be down for more of a meta-game and maybe some light stat building this time around.
does anyone else think it would benefit from semi-active turn based combat? (think Paper Mario, legend of dragoon)
You say that as if actual Persona fans don't want that. Everybody wanted to fuck Teddie's boypussy. Everyone.
Not him but
SMT DeSu2 break record fucking when?!
Raidou 3 fucking when?!
SMT IV for Europe fucking when?!
There never going to do any of these things becuase of fucking persona. Jesus christ there is a dancing game for persona 4 now. What the fuck?
>Everybody wanted to fuck Teddie's boypussy. Everyone.
Teddy is too annoying
Jun is the only Persona boy that I would
I want the romance and friendship paths for the girl S Links to be more distinct. Being able to actually choose whether or not you wanted to date a girl in 4 was an improvement but it was still not done well. Some like Yumi and Rise are awkward as fuck if you want to just be friends. They should only be hot for your dick if you choose the romance path, not by default.
I would seriously hope there are just multiple teams handling different games since they're so different from each other, but I have no idea. Your concerns are definitely valid though, like I said, I do hope more SMT comes out.
Especially the issues EU keeps having, that's just obnoxious.
>Yu should have had kiss scenes
Anon please. I know the truth hurts, but quit saying it.
He had one with each of the 2 best girls
In fact I'd like some more elements of SMT to trickle back into persona.
I'm glad persona branched out enough to make an identity for itself but it could benefit from some more complex and rewarding SMT gameplay elements.
During a school field trip there where some french Canadians in the same greyhound as us and my french friend was talking to them, later I asked her how different is their french from her french, she said its something like gutter peasant speech.
I wouldn't go that far.
At least he got some delicious Jun ass inbetween all the terrible things, though.
I just want it to be a little dark like the first 2.
I actually just realized it's not your fault anon. Now I'm upset I pretty much forgot 2 years worth of French.
It sucks, because Raidou has the potential to be a great action/RPG series with detective elements, but Atlus half-asses almost everything about it.
The combat is limited due its slow nature, and it's retarded encounter rate.
Detective shit was annoying because you're constantly attacked by demons, when you just want to look at shit.
Why can't a competent team just help out with the execution of these ideas
it really is
i live out in the boonies of montreal and work at the value grocery store of the neighborhood
any quebec that isnt downtown / student montreal is bad quebec, dont come here unless youre going to montreal
Well lucky in the sense that he most likely tapped that.
I want school life parts to be more interactive. Like you can see kids in each classrooms, maybe there being an actual schedule, stuff like that.
I realize it could be pain in the ass for some players though.
I enjoyed P2 IS the best because theyre all so dumb its genuine
You are right. Best taste my brother nigga.
Also when they "face themselves" unlike P4 cast, they have ACTUAL fucking problems.
Lisa whoring herself to old men and a druggy for one. Compared to "I dont want to work in my familys well established inn! Nvm jklol"
>Live in a giant state
>Only one place to go where you're not surrounded by idiots and vast amounts of nothing
You guys are just like the states!
>Ulala will never, ever appear in another game or spin-off
Social links are half-assed and hurt P3 and P4's design as a whole.
Thanks to the calendar system and social links, the long periods of nothing happening in the plot become mandatory so the player can build social links, and in the end, that sticks us with no real plot development until the last two/three months of the game.
It becomes worse in P4 where the social links are used as an outlet for character development within the investigation team, making even their character development optional. Worse is that, even with this, completing their social links makes zero impact on the plot. Everyone still behaves the same way.
Fuck, no social links in the game, bar the mandatory ones for Pharos/Ryoji and Teddie, make any impact on the plot. They're so superfluous that it hurts. I could love these things more if Atlus figured out how to make them seem less tangenital. Somehow.
But in the end it ammounts to nothing because she realises that wasnt even a big deal to begin with.
SMT 4 has been out for a long while while just this year like 4 Persona games were announced.
*Meant last year.
Real Persona game or not Persona is getting more games while we havent got new Megaten spinoffs or continuing series in a long while.
Stop being delusional Personadrone.
Nigger, bitch can say no, she was just to much of a wimp, then she does a 360. compare that to Tatsuya, was so tramatized his whole personality changed, and he forgot what the hell happened. You really cant say P4 cast's problems are any near as bad as P2's problems.
and only one is worth caring about.
I'd rather have quantity<quality, especially when it comes to SMT.
If making persona and spinoffs gets atlus the NEET money they need to make better games, I think it's worth the wait.
>possibility of one homosexual S-link option while it wasn't done in P3 or P4
>waaah the SJWs have won waaaah
I don't get it. The people whining about them are more annoying than the SJWs themselves, damn.
"oops i overreacted" thats not character development. Even less when its fucking optional.
In fact most P4 SLs ammounts to the character not having problems at all just being overdramatic wimps.
yes sure as long fuckers don't shoved down my ass I am cool with it
also I wish the game was a little bit open world also that you can use different kind of clothes other thing I want is good dungeons and a cool story with no friendship shit but doubt that will happen
Ehhh, I don't know about all that, I don't think a gay route would ruin the game, just don't go down that road if you don't want that. If they can pull it off well, which shouldn't be too hard, then we all win.
unless you're a homophobe in which case good for you.
In the PS2 days we had quantity AND quality, not so much these days that everything is just Persona.
Stop being delusional.
Wich P2 characters are yet they are better handled.
The problem is that whatever ATLUS do with Persona the fanbase will eat it up and wont make ATLUS try to do anything more unique.
Ms. Toriumias the MMO link was nice, too bad it didn't bleed into her real-life dialogue.
>Sayako could have been such a nice gf.
>It also would have been awesome if you could convince Eri to leave the man and kid and shack up with you. Would have been doucebag move granted, but dat milf pussy tho.
In P5 I'm hoping for at least one romancable milf S.Link. Just imagine:
>New qt 28 year old teacher arrive at school, has a fiance.
>A third of the way into the link, her fiance beats her up while he's drunk because she confronted him about cheating on her with some slut at his work.
>Potter-kun is at her apartment picking up homework or some shit when it happens.
>You step in and fuck him up if your courage is high enough.
>She becomes scared of men, but spending more time with you makes her realize not all men are bad.
>She starts to realize more and more that you are her ideal man.
>"P-Potter-kun... What do you think of me...?
>You're my friend.
>I'm in love with you.
Please God, let this happen!
>The problem is that whatever ATLUS do with Persona the fanbase will eat it up and wont make ATLUS try to do anything more unique.
And Atlus will ignore the older games and bring about a new P4 game.
Last E3 I think? They just said they are on schedule with the game but the dude that was talking to the interviewer said he cant say anymore or he will get fired.
I really want this game to happen, SMT is my favorite JRG series and Fire emblem being my second.
>Elizabeth just gets memories and dreams of her kissing Door-Kun
fuck can't help it guys to feel bad about her and Aigis
All the same, I'm not the least bit worried about SMT.
We still get regular releases and there's no shortage of news on stuff in development. Just right now people are hyped for the new persona, and Atlus finally has something they can milk with certainty.
I'm betting that once the P4 spinoffs are out and P5 is close to release, there will be more SMT to come.
also I openly admit that persona got me interested in SMT and I bought SMT IV because of it. Planning on playing digital devil saga next.
It's not that it's super amazing or whatever but it's a well done romance, I mean as compared to other homosexual romances of the time and after it's time.
It's not in your face. You don't have to participate if you don't want to, and there is some cute back story with them.
If there is a gay romance, the other guy will probably be the top. Fujoshits prefer to self insert as the bottom.
Tatsuya is bisexual master race. All the other protagonists are either filthy monosexual peasants.
They droped that bomb literally at the end of them game though, like the last last true last boss of the game was like, oh if you hadt had done this I would have destroyed the world because that's what you guys really want.
>mfw no female party members
>it's the ffxv of persona except it will actually come out
Holy shit, I hope a milf teacher becomes a party member!!!
Wasn't P4 the one that made westward hype even stronger? I think it'll do alright based on that fact. They probably made P4 more casual to appeal to more people so they could bait more people into buying P5, which may or may not be greater than, equal to, or less than P4 in terms of casualness.
>blah blah blah shitty plot blah blah you've been playing for like 60 hours, most of it irrelevant "friend" social link bullshit
>oh by the way I'm gonna destroy the world
They didn't have any clue about that during most of the game though.
It goes along with the theme of truth.
They were pretty much living their lives in ignorance, but discover the truth behind the TV world etc by the end of the journey.
nope I think it will be good also hope they reach a million sales
the series itself is a good idea but so far Atlus have end up short of how to execute it
you have millions of stuff that will work with this game but Atlus just tries to play it safe and keep the lame as formula and I hope P5 breaks this since they are now working on the PS3
Can you even imagine how the IT would respond if they met Philemon? I can't imagine anything intelligent coming out of their conversation.
>Waifu/Husbando crap = ban rule
Persona 4 is literally the hipster equivalent of a vn, the
bazingaof visual novels if you will. Strip it of waifus and husbandos and it's a piece of garbage.
>It goes along with the theme of truth.
Hey, you can stop kidding yourself with this talk about Persona 4 handling its 'theme' at all. It bullshitted its way into a hamfisted mess of trying to force it into relevancy, and it came off as cheap and shallow.
The whole "hey, gonna destroy the world" bit is a meaningless bit tacked-on at the end of the game. The cast couldn't have been "living their lives in ignorance" about something that they didn't know about.
What can Atlus do to fuck up this game that would make you not want to buy it?
Do you really think that matters?
It's not gonna be some canon thing.
>The cast couldn't have been "living their lives in ignorance" about something that they didn't know about.
Oh god what?
So who will be P5's persona?
>P3's persona was Orpheus because he liked to listen to his ipod
>P4's persona was Izanami because he's Japanese
>P5's persona is __________ because ___________
Both Orpheus and Izanagi's stories involved them gong to and from the underworld in order to save their loved one.
If they continued the same pattern we could not only figure out the MC's persona, but also take guesses at the rest of the cast's because they would probably belong to the same mythology
Zeus Because blue flames
isn't that what /v/ is anyways
>They were alluding it for most of the game.
Do tell. Show me how, throughout the entire game, it's alluded to that the whole world is at stake through the investigation team fumbling around in their precious little TV world.
Daniel Radcliffe because he ???·????
Don't you mean
you want to be romanced by a guy just like Tatsuya?
P3 launched in 2007 and it looks like a launch PS2 game.
No, considering Persona as it is, is an extremely mediocre series and the only reason it got popular is that they nailed waifus with 4.
Just a reminder that if you type "Nyarly" instead of Nyarlathotep, you're a dumb faggot from tumblr.
this will be my first Persona game that I'm going to play when I'm not actually in high school.
Should I be getting a console just to play this game? I already planned to waste my money of GTA 5 for the PC.
hmmmm the only mythological figure that I can think of that has an descent to the underworld myth is Ishtar/Astarte from Babylonian/Canaanite mythology, which wouldn't really fit since the MC is a dude
>Thor will never get to nuke the world again
How bout making an actual decent RPG instead of shoving in romance and turning it into a dating simulator?
No? Everyone who plays Persona is a neckbeard faggot with shit taste who can't stand playing a Japanese RPG without a waifu? Alrighty.
Wafius aren't supposed to be good. The P4 girls are "waifu" in that they are generic anime girls with nothing remarkable about them at all and no flaws to speak of. They nailed them in that regard
I love Persona and I FUCKING HATE the waifu bullshit.
I just like the well written characters and storylines but these fucking weaboo faggots ruin it for everyone by making personafags look like faggots or somethign
You really can't grasp how retarded the sudden jump is from "we're saving Inaba" to "oh hey btw the world is going to be consumed by the fog" all within the final dungeon of the game? There's not even any real sense of urgency when that's brought up to the player - they don't show you how dire the situation is. They tell you how dire it is. They do nothing to give the reveal any impact.
It's like some rushed, hackjob attempt at making things seem more significant.
>post yfw Persona 5 Golden/Platinum/whateverthefuck rerelease
P5 protagonist persona will be Prometheus because of the fire and his theme as the holder of knowledge (mc seems like very intellectual).
This sounds like huge bait. Just the way it is typed, I dont know.
I feel P2 did great in that regard, you felt the urgency, hell you actually stopped going to high school.
How come Yosuke gets so much shit when he's one of the better written characters?
Guess what most teenagers are kind of assholes who would be uncomfortable around a dude they think is gay.
>Why would want to finish a game where the protagonist dies?
This seriously is the only reason I'm playing the game. Sure it's a hell of a spoiler but it's pretty interesting to see what happens.
we know is going to happen but i am tired of all the milking
He's kind of whiny.
He comes off way better in the anime.
>Guess what most teenagers are kind of assholes who would be uncomfortable around a dude they think is gay.
Most of the guys I'm friends with thought I was gay because I haven't had a girlfriend for such a long time.
That and I act like a faggot.
Kagutsuchi, son of Izanagi and Izanami. He's the reason why Izanami died because he was literally made of fire and burned Izanami during birth. Izanagi killed him in a fit of rage.
So basically it was literally Daddy Issues No Okami.
I didn't even think Yosuke was an asshole outside of his shadow confrontation honestly, definitely nowhere near Junpei levels of douchebaggery and I don't get why he gets so much hate
Prometheus confirmed for mc's persona.
Yeah maybe it's better if P1/P2 stay dead.
What the fuck is "3 months" worth after Adachi's dungeon? You don't even play through those months.
The only things between Ame-no-Sagiri's battle and Izanami's appearance are event scenes and running around town talking to people and saying you don't want to go home. The latter being the only 'playable' segments in that part that require more player input than choosing dialogue responses.
>everyone constantly acting like a bitch and whining about their insignificant problems
>never thinking (openly bringing weapons to a mall, great plan jackass)
>always whoring around
Mr. Morooka started out as a bright, young teacher with a passion for learning who wanted to make a difference in this small town. He ended up a jaded, cynical bastard in the grim realization that every student is as bad as the shitty-ass Persona 4 cast. He gets all that unwarranted hate in the game, people are happy he's dead, and they still poke fun at him after his gruesome death.
Persona 4, not even once.
>Prometheus was one of the Titans to side with Zeus and his siblings in the great war against the Titans, the original occupiers of Mount Olympus. When Zeus won the war and banished Prometheus' brethren to Tartarus for eternity, Prometheus and his brother Epimethius were given the task of populating the earth with creations. Epimetheus, who created the beasts of the world, gave his creations all of the gifts that could be bestowed, leaving Prometheus with nothing to give to Humanity. To compensate, Prometheus stole fire from Mount Olympus, incurring Zeus' wrath. However, it wasn't until he taught mankind how to trick the gods that he was given his ultimate punishment. Chained to a rock for all time, his liver was eaten every day by a great eagle sent by Zeus. Immortal, he could never die and his liver would regrow. And so he suffered, until the Greek hero Herakles freed him from his torment during the course of his famous Twelve Labors.
I think you just don't appreciate the slow burn P4 was going for. The game doesn't even need to spell it out for you. The fog was far more dangerous than it originally seemed. And how is getting trapped out of the true ending relevant? That is the whole hook of that twist.
Except everyone seemed sympathetic after his death...
First was when I was 15, she was my aunt but no blood relation so it would have been all good, I just couldt belive it and thought there was no way, looking back she really wanted the D, second was some drunkbitch and third was a slut.
I asked out like 2 girls my whole life and both times I got not even friendzoned, but brother zoned, dont know how that is possible my new approach is now going to show off my wealth and get bitches like that becuase after working with my dad I learned like, 90% of all girls are sluts looking for money. Hell the first girl I asked out said once she would only date rich guys. Worst part is that its actually working.
It's not a "slow burn." It's poor pacing, and bad writing.
It, like P3, suffers from the plot not moving forward until the very last portions of the game. At least in P3's climax, we're shown what kinds of things happen when Nyx appears, as brief a demonstration as it is through an anime cutscene. Come P4's climax, it's some underwhelming blunder thanks to things being described rather than shown directly.
When someone is nothing but an asshole to you you're not going to suddenly respect or like them once they're dead. When they are gone all everyone they know is left with are memories, and when those memories are all of him being a cunt it's kind of hard to be sympathetic for very long.
Makes sense though, you as tatsuya never hanged out with her until the start of the game, or atleast that is what the game was saying, hell Tatusya never had any friends really.
P2 is depressing.
Yeah i mean they dont even try to make new characters, look at the P4 female cast:
Rise: An idol that loves the MC to death just like Lisa from P2.
Yukiko: The most popular girl at school just like Lisa from P2.
Chie: Tomboy that knows Kung Fu and fights with your bro just like Lisa from P2.
Naoto: Literaly a copy paste of Growlanser 1 Julian.
P5 will probably have a Naoto or Chie 2.5.
I hope P5's protagonist is already an established dude like Piercy. Piercy was not a new kid at school and he had his own gang of friends and acquaintances.
I don't want another "NEW TO SCHOOL. NEW TO FRIENDS. FOOL ARCANA!" protagonist again.
Yeah, I mean he was on a train, but he was also in a city, where everything is beyond congested and metro is kind of a necessity. He could very well be another transfer student, but he could also be like Yu before he left for Inaba.
Tatsuya was the only protagonist that was a third year.
It's a concept that could really have turned out amazing if the development team either had more time on their hands, or just tried a different approach toward it altogether. There's just something sort of sloppy about the way it ended-up being handled.
we will get another theme like burn my dread last battle again ?
Hell maybe he loses friends at the start, a kind of unwanted breaking of chains, and some people are like "Hey you're not uglier than sin, my name's matsuhara wackasmacka!" and he makes new friends.
or he could just be a loner.
I kind of disagree. Having all traita in one girl is overdoing it and making them overly complex whem they could make it nuanced for each girl. Yukiko was popular but she was a total goof. Chie is a tomboy but is still pretty feminine (also not a typically gigantic tomboy like in many anime). Naoto also has trust and failure issues.
I think it could've been better but maybe they put too much stock in the murder mystery. Another 5 months would have fleshed it out quite a bit, but the game is extremely long to begin with.
>wanting a loner
It's like none of you want him to be a guy with friends master race like Piercy. Friendless fags like Tatsuya and MC are shit tier.
Hence why I said friends. Piercy's friends were far from cumslaves, and some of them downright hated one another.
Difference is you already got your niggas. You know them and they know you. None of this "Well time to make new friends because I'm a loser/antisocial/new to this town."
That being said I liked MC's better than Yu's since at least MC's friends were jumping his dick 24/7.
I'd definitely prefer a game like P3 to P4. In P3 it actually felt pretty lonely. Many of your friends were unlikable and required you to just feed them whatever they wanted to hear, made you feel like you were really doing it just to level up your personae. Elizabeth even says something like that if you max all social links.
Examples: Magician, Emperor, Devil, Moon
it's no like what I want is more like of what the game is pointing on the character to be
He could be a loner or one of those guys who don't have that many friends
I'd say they were more soulless and annoying because what would be an endearing flaw just becomes their only defining feature when everything else is nonexistent.
Compare them to a character like Kenji in P3. He can be cool, but to progress you have to tell him that all the stupid shit he does is the right thing or he gets pissed at you. It's more reminiscent of something in real life, he's not just an anime stereotype.
But Tanaka never tried to be your friend, and he turned not such a bad guy after he realized what he did, not surprising since he came from a poor background. Kenji didn't seem like such a bad guy either, he was deluded with love. For Emperor the guy was more of just a student council member you knew and wanted to stand up for simple stuff he believed.
That's the point, Tanaka isn't your friend. You willingly let him scam you and then just hang out with him so he can rant to you and then you level up your social link. Exactly what I meant when I said you just tell people what they want to hear because all the MC actually cares about is getting stronger.
I wouldn't say that, he was apathetic to most things (especially at the start) but I'd say by the last part of most of the social links he cared about them, although he obviously cared about some more than others.
Minazuki and Sho become one and he swears he's going to defeat Yu one day. Margaret and Elizabeth say that he's going to be a guest that the VR and that basically Yu will be his senpai.
Also he gets a wild card. My guess is that Philemon just stopped caring.
Huh. Not that guy, but that kinda made the whole Chaotic/Neutral/Lawful ending about Chair-kun kind of make sense. Only time will tell I guess, I hope we hear something relatively soon.
Philemon has come to terms with the fact that he and Nyarlathotep are never coming back.
Can't wait for P5 The Platinum Arena Ultimax Dance Mix: featuring all the P3/P4 characters you all know and love
Jeez...it is always persona with you guys. Persona Persona Persona! Not even strong enough to punch a demon in the face and talk them into become your bitch.