Will I ever feel this way in an MMO again? Are MMOs dying?

They're already dead. Now they're inhabited by zombies who only care about what you're wearing.

They aren't dying, they're dead.

>>262388490
>dying
they're already dead anon.
mmo's were great because of the sense of community.
people overlook that now in favor of streamlined mechanics.
casualizing gameplay just made things even worse.

>Will i ever be 14 again?
No.

We have 2 mmos to look forward to and both are so off ahead its depressing.
Star Citizen, assuming it ever becomes what they advertise, and Everquest Next.
The MMO market tried to pander to casuals and thats what killed it, but now people don't even want to bother with MMOs instead they prefer to to make MOBAs as they are cheaper/easier to make.

Shroud of the avatar
Second life
Gmod RP servers
Warband RP servers

You cant expect to get new things while only looking at wow

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>>262389051
I know a lot of people in WoW care a shit ton about transmogging, but I honestly don't give a shit.

Level 89 on my first toon, getting 90 this week. I'm in it for the world, not the shitty cosmetic shit. Those faggots who care (and shitpost furry shit on /wowg/) are retarded.

Having just started WoW this summer, I suppose I am biased, but still, play for the world. It is definitely fun, despite the passage of time.

I still play RuneScape too. 9 years and counting.

>>262389368
>>262389239
>>262389051
I don't want to believe this ;_;

>>262389728
What is even known about EQN? 40 classes? weird digging in the ground combat? Over the top art style? I have a feeling this is going to be a huge letdown

>>262390443
It likely will be, but I have to at least believe in something

>>262389863
>not caring about what you look like
>using a custom mount instead of flight form on your druid

ok bud

>>262389863
>I still play RuneScape too.
opinion discarded. also the only reason you can enjoy WoW now is because you don't know how good it was in it's prime.
vanilla and TBC era where fucking glorious.
I would skip lecture just raid Khara with friends and end up having to spend days at the library catching up on missed info.

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Remember when people were touting ArcheAge as the next great sandbox? Or when they mysteriously stopped talking about Black Desert?

>>262392045
Remember when they said WildStar would be the savior of MMOs

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FFXIV

>>262392646
It was fun for a while but I quickly was able to get to end game with full raid gear and never even joined a guild or even befriended one person because there was no reason to.
I will play it again when the thief class comes out though
But, the queue system as much as I love it, kills mmos because it kills any sense of community

>>262392646
That game is garbage, just like every other themepark.

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Beta Tera with /a/ and /v/. I'll never get to see those times again.

>>262392646
I played for 2 months and stopped.
I liked the overall world but the fact that every fucking zone is instanced kills all immersion for me.There is no open world pvp. Invisible walls aren't as bad as people say but they are still annoying and really disconnect you from the wold. You can't even swim. That same fucking music every time you enter combat..plus there is pretty much no builds other than choosing between abilities. I was disappointed in this game

They died ever since they all turned into gigantic virtual theme-parks. No sense of community, just "get through the content as fast and efficiently as possible so I can get that bigger carrot".

I tolerate GW2 in spite of it's failings, but I know a better game could be made quite easily.

The things MMO's MUST address:

1. Stop playing D&D.
2. Emergent Gameplay (EVE is supposedly good with this, the players themselves drive the "story")
3. Let players play a role. I might actually be interested in a game where it wasn't all about combat, like becoming the merchant, selling stuff to other players, and managing your shop. Perhaps going out with a friend to guard you while looking for loot.

Otherwise if people want theme-parks, why not let them build it themselves? It could be like a mix of Dungeon Keeper, SWG (I heard players could actually build their own cities), and physics based combat like most brawlers do, with some Legend of Zelda elements thrown in.

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>>262388490

I just miss my rogue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzYrXxVUvwc

>>262388490
nostalgiafags infest /v/ like heartworm

Currently playing Vindictus myself, but there is very little sense of community, and so I will eventually get bored, probably when I get a couple alts to 50 or so.

It is really community that makes or breaks a MMO for me (and others in this thread, it seems.)

Played WoW for so long because I had friends and made friends in it. When they stopped playing, I got bored. I am hoping Corecraft has a decent community, where I would be able to do stuff with cool people every now and then. If it doesn't, it certainly wont hold my interest for long.

>>262389863
>>262390872
>the only reason you can enjoy WoW now is because you don't know how good it was in it's prime.
vanilla and TBC era where fucking glorious.

I'm going to have to agree on this. Vanilla Wow and BC were fucking awesome. I had so much fun. The game is just so different from what it use to be. Leveling use to take MONTHS. You can level up toons so fast nowadays it's not even funny.

I played during all of the expansions and nothing came close to even touching how glorious that game use to be. MoP was my last one. Got to 90, farmed 10k dino bones for the albino raptor mount and then quit a few weeks later.

Once I get a new PC I can see myself actually playing again but only for PvP.... and only a level 19 twink rogue.

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>friends are all coming back in WOD

Will probably be fun for a month, doubt they will stay longer.

>>262389051
>>262389239
>>262389368
this

>>262389552
never been an excuse anon. my dad and my brothers used to have a clan and they'd all be varying ages in the clan and we used to have great fun in mmos.

>>262396643
this is always seems to happen.
me and my buddy got into MoP for a while, made a guild and attempted to do raids but it ended up just falling apart. one of us stopped playing as often and the other followed suit.

WoW was still fairly fun to just play by yourself since you didn't really need a group of friends for it but having those few friends who do play with you just elevate the experience so much more.

>>262388490

Everquest Next will save MMOs.

>>262389787
>second life
literally paying a subscription to join private 'rooms' so you can RP on a shitty engine with shitty people.

>Gmod RP
admins literally favour characters who paid 50€ for custom models. taco n banana being a good example of this.

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>>262396605

I've lost control over my life and almost memorized all roguecraft movies.

>>262396294
Level 19 battlegrounds were truly the greatest endgame content WoW had to offer.

>>262392646

Is complete shit. They should have just made a prettier FF11 if they didn't want to gamble on an MMO instead of copying WoW.

>>262392045
>Archeage
>sandbox

>UHH GUYS YOU GET TO INFLUENCE THE WORLD HOWEVER YOU WANT UHHH BUT YOU HAVE TO PAY US MONEY IF YOU WANT TO DO FUCKING WORK IN GAME LIKE MINING MORE THAN TWO ROCKS

>literally a pay2sandbox

>>262397485
It's true. End game PvP relied on gear way too much to be fun. Even if you did get geared out it still was never as fun as low level battle grounds were.

>>262389863
You'll care more about transmogging when you're level 90 and have nothing to do.

>>262394456
>(EVE is supposedly good with this, the players themselves drive the "story")
Bet your ass they are. I've been to fan fest and can assure you that more than half of those 'big fights' are staged. They discuss this sorta shit in person.

Don't be fooled that it's a "sandbox" though. All of this shit died in eve the second coalitions became a thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctVrpQ-orss

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>>262395354
>start playing WoW with four friends
>play a rogue
>friends play warriors, priest and hunter
>do long dungeon runs exploring every inch of the place with them
>help each other with class quests, professions, elites, gold, just about everything
>best time of my youth was spent playing WoW with my best friends on Skype/TS
>I wouldn't trade a second of all those hours spent gaming with them for anything
>have LAN parties at one of the friends house
>play wow all night, laugh at dumb shit, drink a million bottles of soda
>play with the same people until WotLK slowly shifts to Cataclysm
>only me and one friend of the original group of bros play WoW anymore
>everyone grew up
>careers
>school
>womyn
>see them rarely, a few times a year maybe
>drifting apart from my best friends in the world
>tfw only friend I have left is WoW now
Kill me please

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>>262398476

Endure, in enduring grow strong.

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>>262398476

I made most of my friends i still have today from vanilla/tbc wow but i lost contact with so many others, i really wish i had told them i had a steam account so they could stay in contact but most have just stopped or switched character.

I spent one night on Hydraxian isle in Azshara just dancing with our co-joined guild to Queen for hours and discussing things after a MC run.

All these memories.

i've gone back to old school runescape.. the game itself is not very fun to play but getting levels and drops is cool.. plus runescape did stuff a way no other mmo does.. no binded gear.. quest system.. be any and everything type of stuff

im gonna try archeage too but worried about cash shop

why does wow have to change? fuck all my best memories of wow were during the hundreds of trials i created with my friend, we would both make horde hunters, level as fast as possible to 10 then we would make the long ass trek all the way to the human starting point and gank till the 80s came running we would die, wait for them to leave and do it all over again

>>262390443
The chance for somewhat reasonable exploration. And not just once but forever.
Not being stuck in a certain class (it might be good, it could be GW but with even more options, it could also be fucking nothing).
And honestly, this is just me being psyched, but god damnit, have there been a few good looking buildings coming and the like coming out of their "the workshop" thingy. I hope its a quality that can stay ingame as well.

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I didn't even recognize the game when i played MOP, sure it wasn't as bad as cata but it didn't even feel like wow anymore.

>>262401871
The problem I have with MOP is that from a gameplay perspective, its pretty damn good. Everything feels tight, the classes are rather simple but kind of fun. However an MMO really should be about social interactions and WoW no longer has any of them. If people ask you something, nowadays its quite often for their own benefit and not for the benefit of both of you (compare request to powerlevel somebody to request to go in a dungeon of appropriate level with them). And with that transformation from social to not social, it also destroyed the feeling of the game being a world your character lives in. Instead it fully becomes a game and nothing more.

>>262389239
If Trion decides to get rid of the shitty P2W marketplace in Archeage, you'll be wrong.

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>>262401871
I never wanted that feel.

>>262388490
>Will I ever feel this way in an MMO again?
No, because WoW was your first MMO and also babbys first.

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>that feel when you played rogue in MOP

>>262389787
>warband RP server
This sounds really interesting. Recommend a good server pls?

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>Have to play Mobas for PvP now
Life is suffering

>>262397652
Archeage would literally be the best MMO on the market right know if they just get rid of all the dumb fucking pay walls.

>>262405843

It's not the same i don't even get a increased heart rate from it.

>>262406014
Its still better than MoP pvp

>>262390872
I think you meant Vanilla to Wrath.

>>262406193
I'm barely duelist range on EU but MoP PvP is alright, imo, especially when compared to Cata.

P.S.
Fuck LSD

>>262388490
WoW killed MMOs ages ago. This is your fault too you know.

>>262405843
Smite at least gives some of the arena feel for an assfaggot game

WoW is dead because they tried to cater to babbies, rehashed content, and ruined lore.

They removed all the fun shit like attunements and the element of the unknown and people are tired of Blizz's shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMvcglKzCgE

Times, they changed

;-;

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJESm-assss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ12VD2OUM0

I miss vanilla.

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>>262408163
Fuck you I did not need these feels

I hate all of you for bringing back all the glorious and horrible days of my childhood.

>bawh.

why don't more mmo makers copy wow gfx style, i fucking hate any other art style it looks trash and kanker

i'm pretty hype for corecraft though

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Even if a great new sandbox MMO came out, nobody would care because the majority of the people who try it would go "so uh, what am I suppose to do?" then lose interest.

Since social networking has become so fucking huge, the online communities and social aspects of MMOs are no longer appealing to people anymore.

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>>262409152

Take it all.

>have to resub now if I want CM shit and Green Fire on my other Lock account
>PC is fucked and I have to wait for parts


Get fucked Blizzard

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>>262409956

>>262410065
But its free until the end of month now

>>262410384
>Freee

what

>>262410384

Thats only for new accounts

>>262410384
What is free?