I'll accept Falco, since he's actually a prominent Star Fox member and plays tangibly different.
I'll accept Lucina, since she's at least a different character (and gender) from Marth.
But this? There's no excuse for this DeviantArt palette swap dark-n-edgy bullshit. I don't even care if he is a different character, he's just fucking Pit with black hair and a tunic you can't wash with bleach. If Sakurai actually adds him as anything but a palette swap, I will personally fly out to Japan, take a shit on his porch, spray paint it black and place a little sign over it reading "dark smash bros. wii-u"
>Falco, Ganondorf, Pichu, Young Link, Roy, and Dr. Mario all get free passes
>Lucas, Wolf, Falco, Toon Link, Ganondorf, and Snake all get free passes
>Falco, Ganondorf, Lucina, Dr. Mario, and Toon Link all get free passes
But not Dark Pit. Seems rather odd your tolerance stops at one specific character.
Also who the fuck is Snake a clone of, you retarded anime bimbo?
I agree with you both but that wasn't my point. My point was that people are whining about him just being a recolor put in as a clone, but they don't know hes an actual character
>implying any of those characters got free passes
>implying people weren't complaining about Brawl's clones even before the game came out
>implying no one complains about falcondorf and Toon Link to this day
Dark Pitfags really are this retarded.
Who gives a shit? I guarantee his character is mediocre at best and removing him from Kid Icarus wouldn't have made the slightest difference.
You know how I can tell? Because he's a literal palette swap of Pit.
You're only reinforcing my point. Dark Pit is not s recolor. He is his own character. Whether he's a good character or not is subjective but the point remains that anyone complaining about him being a recolor has an invalid point.
What personality? He has a scene or two where he helps Pit just because and that's it. He's barely in the fuckin game and in every scene he's a fuckin asshole. Great game , but who seriously gives a shit about Pittoo.
>doing exactly the same shit as what you're lambasting but going "durr look at me"
>hes barely in the game
Stop taking what other posters have said and pretending you've played the game. There was a WHOLE LEVEL where you played as Dark Pit in order to bring Pit back to life. That doesn't sound like a 'minor' character who 'only appears a couple of times' to me
>Dark Pit is not s recolor
He is, by all literal definitions, a recolor.
Dark Pit was literally the least interesting character to me. I know clones take less effort, but I honestly would have rather seen no character at all than fucking dark pit. Hades would have been bitchin'.
Luigi is taller and thinner than Mario and can be distinguished by their silhouettes. They are more different than just a palette swap. This shit, on the other hand, is literally identical to Pit but black instead of white.
Who gives a shit? Shadow the Hedgehog has more of a personality then Pittoo.
I don't even care about this whole clone thing (for all we know he'll play differently) , I just think they picked the wrong choice. I would have loved to have seen Medusa or Hades (HERP DERP HES TOO BIG...right. He can change size.).
Dark Pit gets Viridi as his goddess. That automatically makes him better than Pit
>>262104146 Depends on the leaves then, are they sycomore? oak? palm? Maybe their tunics are different material. Maybe one of them got their tunic at hollister and the other got theirs at walmart. I guess he isn't a recolor after all...
Well it's done now Anon so it's not like I can do anything about it. Also If I'm paying all this money for the 3DS/Wii U versions and a Wii U Console and Potentially an XL , you bet your ass I want Tuxedos.
>I will personally fly out to Japan, take a shit on his porch, spray paint it black and place a little sign over it reading "dark smash bros. wii-u"
But you wont, because you and anyone else is just going to complain like a 12 year old on /v/ for a few weeks and continue to play Smash like everyone else. I dont know why you would even act like this would make any difference to Sakurai at all, hes going to continue to do what he wants. Dont like it? Deal with it, until this guy stops directing the Smash development its going to be the way he wants it to be.
His character art actually features it, so I'd bet at least his neutral special is unique.
ITT: Cancerous Rosterfags saying retarded shit
If Dark Pit plays good, then I'm happy with him. Your Goku or whatever isn't getting into the game and there's nothing you can do about it, faggot.
Shadow had the benefit of having his backstory explained in the game he was introduced in. Dark Pit is literally created infront of your eyes in the game then he starts being super goddamn edgy talking about serving gods like a puppet ect.
by all means Pittoo is the definition of a shit character since his personality is not so unique from pits as well .
If he's unique then even worse
That means that faggot Sakurai spent even MORE time on dark shit instead of something else. I'd much rather he spruce up ganon with a few new moves rather than push a crappy pallet swap clone
b..but hes is such a qt
especially when their together. smash relationship options when?
Smash Bros always sells well. The 3DS has an exceptional install base now and basically the entire wii u userbase will buy it. Combined it may be the highest sold Smash, which currenly is
You and I both know he'll be a clone. Just look at Lucina.
Based on what?
Because you dont like it so far?
Most people who have a wii u are going to pick it up just because of the name alone. Even if its nothing like their favorite one in the series.
Prove me wrong.
We literally saw the bare minimum of Ganondorf. His, like, up special and a few smash attacks are returning. That's all we know. If you actually expected Ganonsword, get your autism checked.
So that's why you must settle for socks. Sure, a suit would be nice, but that would require more time, which you don't have. It's not perfect, but at least they'll keep your feet warm.
I think the answer speaks for itself.
>Based on what?
Based on the fact that the Wii U it sold far worse than the Wii alone. The 3DS will most likely sell more.
>Most people who have a wii u are going to pick it up just because of the name alone.
That is hardly evidence.
No, but they are a stupid idea
Even if some crazy new highly-requested character like Ridley ended up being a Charizard clone, it'd be fucking lame
Dark Pit got in over your most wanted unconfirmed character and there's NOTHING you can do about it.
Wait are we talking about the roster now or the ability to buy shit? I'm content with the roster. Dark Pit doesn't ruin shit for me as much as I think he was a terrible choice. As far as buying shit goes , just gotta save that cash dawg.
I got Smash 3DS and Comic Con next month. I'm fucked haha.
>ITT: People who haven't played Kid Icarus Uprising complain about something they don't know shit about.
That's funny, because the vast majority of people who played Kid Icarus Uprising don't know shit about Kid Icarus.
>The 3DS will most likely sell more.
So like I said people will still play it. I dont know what you were trying to go for with this statement.
>That is hardly evidence.
How isnt it? Smash is one of Nintendo's hugest IPs. Most casual players have played one of the games, at some point. There is no way you dont already know this.
>Why are Kid Icarus fans always so fucking gay?
gr8 b8 m8. The protagonist is literally the most innocent underage boy. The creeper gays will flock to that like you straights flock to your animu loli rpg quests
I also would like to add that melee was one of the most sold (if not most) games on gamecube, and it was a launch title, so of course both versions are going to sell really well.
Are ridleyfags still mad that a series that introduced a bunch of memorable characters in one game gets more slots than metroid where the only new interesting character added after the first game is that one black guy
hey. dont be mean ~~
im not gay pittu i s just a major qt, you are gay if you cant see this.
>tfw when u will never have the lewdest threesome with pittu and dark pittu and then we all go out to get a mcdonalds together and i have a vegetarian wrap
>Playing a fucking game that require alot of quick movements of your 3DS Nub sticks.
Its like you fucking people are asking for your 3DS to be destroyed.
>I have no clue where those are kept in these kinds of cars.
In compartments in the engine block. Which is at the back for any proper supercar. So yeah, that's most likely oil or coolant.
fuck you haters
i'd fuck em both
I never played KI:U but I just don't give a fuck. Like, big fucking whoop. It's not like he's stealing a slot away from anyone. I don't care that he's a recolored Pit.
I'm just trying to understand where you guys are summoning this hate and discontentment from. Why does it fucking matter.
Go be gay somewhere else man Iam trying to be mad a shit character got into a game I like.
i wanna be in the middle of this
>WALUIGI MORE FUCKING POPULAR THEN DARK PIT.
good character really good character.
>just because he was popular doesn't mean that people wanted him in Smash
Do you fucking read what you type before you post? That's an actual list of characters that people wanted in the new Smash game when it was announced that they were making one.
>a hurr de durr :^) there will NEVER EVER be a Kid Icarus rep besides Pit
>Kid Icarus doens't deserve more slots, instead we need more characters in much more important franchises like F-Zero or Metroid.
>Magnus? Who is that faggot? Some schmuck who appeared once in the game? Nope, nope not Smash character material. The people have spoken, we want Isaac from Golden Sun, not this obscure shit homobait.
>Hahahaha oh god he put Palutena in. TWO Kid Icarus queer anime characters and still no ridley! Sakurai is playing favorites! After all, Metroid is much bigger and more important than Kid Icarus!
>huuuuuur :^( Why Dark Pit? Waste of a slot! Whrer is wolf??? Why does that shitty niche series nobody cares about get 3 characters and Earthbound only gets one? :((((((
>That's an actual list of characters that people wanted in the new Smash game
Except it's not. You're just parroting shit you see from /v/.
>likes Kid Icarus more than Metroid or F-Zero
everything in this old sakurai tweet came true.
WE DIDN'T LISTEN!!!
I think this bitching and moaning about Dark Pit is completely and utterly retarded but you're just greentexting things you disagree with but making them sound stupid
Fuck off shitposter
>Palutena that low
>Fucking Waluigi on the list at all
The magazine let people vote for whoever they wanted in Smash. Of course most japs are gonna go for the characters that were already in the previous games and were almost guaranteed to be in the next one. Because they happen to like those chars a lot.
It varies, but popular characters appear in multiple polls.
I'm not defending shit, it just doesn't fucking matter that he's in
It's not just that. Dark Pit is just the straw that broke the camel's back. There are a bunch of problems with the roster.
>Mario gets 3 extra reps
>DK gets no extra reps
>Zelda gets no extra reps
>Metroid gets no extra reps
>Kid Icarus gets 2 extra reps, Pit's special moves get completely changed, Palutena gets 12 completely unique special moves for no real reason
>Lucas, Snake, Wolf, Ice Climbers, Squirtle and Ivysaur cut
>Mewtwo still cut
>Toon Link still a clone of Link
>Ganondorf still a clone of Captain Falcon
>sakurai wants people to stop thinking everything he tweets is smash related
>everything he tweets is smash related anyway
I would have preferred Magnus or Phosphora, but thinking back to the way I was treated for merely suggesting those two, I think this serves you right.
>Lucas, Snake, Wolf, Ice Climbers, Squirtle and Ivysaur cut
I played Uprising and I still hate Dark Pit as a Smash fighter.
i don't like having to go all the way back to hospital every time an eggplant wizard so much as sneezes on me, ok? i nearly beat the gb one because it controlled better, just on the final level in it
>people actually think Sakurai is going to let Dark Pit stays a turboclone like Lucina
Fun fact : he's probably going to have an entirely different FS since he doesn't use the Sacred Treasures in KI:U. And that is while Zelda ans Sheik keep the arrow of light, Link and Toon Link the Triforce Slash, Fox and Falco the Landmaster.
Okay, but what the fuck is up with the duck hunt dog?
God damn why are vocal Uprising fans such fucking faggots? Why does Sakurai love fellating his own creations so much? Why is it that for every good thing in Smash 4 there's one incredibly retarded thing to make up for it?
>but i don't see a way to turn the arwing into a final smash
really? You could just take that one Starfox match from Melee's adventure mode where they're all shooting at the stage but make the player invulnerable to the shots. Easy.
>3 characters: a veteran with huge overhaul, newcomer with 12 completely different moves to choose form, a clone based off a Brawl palette
>6 items (ALL FROM UPRISING)
>2 assists (ALL FROM UPRISING)
>16 enemies (13 FROM UPRISING)
>This isn't even the tip of the iceberg
Dark pit will probably use boss weapons (Fitting, how he himself is a boss) which may likely alter strengths, weaknesses, speeds, and cooldowns of his attacks.
This would be what makes him different, and causes him to have his own slot
>the clone corner
Such a thing didn't even exist in previous Smash games. And he has his staff, that's a predominantly long-range weapon class. I think people just want to believe he's a clone because they underestimate Uprising so much that they think it doesn't deserve a third moveset.
I think it would make much more sense to give him a moveset based around combining shots with dashing and dodging. So we can have a moveset that actually resembles Uprising gameplay. That shit would be so fun. A man can dream.
I wouldn't exact say he's Mr. Edgelord. I mean in the game, all the god's are kind of assholes, Palutana is a bit of a bitch who thinks highly of herself, Hades is Hades, and Viridi wants all humans dead to make a new world order. Pit is kinda a drone when it comes to Palutana, and does what she says regardless if shes wrong, Darkpit; despite his name, really just does what he does.
Why is Uprising so hated here? I love the game, it's excellent, and if you're not an utter casual you will master the controls within minutes. And it reminded me of the good old times with Perfect Dark, Sin&Punishment and Jet Force Gemini. I really don't get it.
My nigger! Uprising was a lot of fun to. I wouldn't say it's hated, it's just some angry people wanting another rep from their favorite franchise thinking Kid Icarus get's a special treatment.
actually, it kind of does
They're both his fucking games and Kid Icarus is popular in Japan. If you don't like it there are plenty of Smash clones you can play, and maybe they have rosters you actually like?
Are you absolutely sure you're not just imagining that because you don't like Uprising?
>Dark Pit got in
>Dark Link is still a costume
Sakurai really knows how to summon the tears of his casual fanbase.
>clones are only okay if they're from series I like
And that's how I know you're a hypocrite. You'd still complain if Magnus was playable instead of Dark Pit, wouldn't you?
>aw man this cake has cherry on it, i hate cherry
>WOW THEN GET A NEW CAKE FAGLORD???
I can dislike parts of a game while still liking it as a whole.
>It's a fucking clone.
>implying the only thing I was talking about was Dark Pit's inclusion
Nigga I've got 90.8% completion in Kid Icarus. I've played it for over 50 hours. Stop perpetuating this "only uprising haters dislike the ki:u stuff in smash!!!" bullshit.
Yeah, I know. That's the point. Costumes like Doc and Lucina (and fucking Dark Pit) get turned into newcomers, who already had a sizable amount of playable characters, but a series with 1 character who has an alt that could easily be a different character gets jackshit.
>series with a single character vs a series with 2
I don't even like Pikmin or F Zero.
>Nigga I've got 90.8% completion in Kid Icarus. I've played it for over 50 hours.
Then why do you insist the game doesn't deserve a few cameos and more than two playable characters?
>But guys, what if
Pit, Dark Pit and Palutena have some wacky bonus dialog and hijinks if they play matches together?
That wold be horrible. Kid Icarus Uprising had absolute shit-tier humor.
Even the first fucking Golden Sun game sold more than Kid Icarus Uprising.
>already has a shitton of content
I got pretty tired of seeing KI stuff in Smash after the 6th item reveal and the 16th Smash Run enemy, when some franchises still have no items or assists revealed.
>a big franchise
>one well-selling game means you're on the same level as a franchise that has been pumping out games consistently since the 90's
I wasn't arguing for Force Deity nor Dark though
Though as far as I know Force Deity wouldn't fight anything close to link in the first place
Is it too much to ask for a Toon Link and Regular Link using different sets of weapons?
>people can't buy games outside their release window
Why can't you KI:U fanboys just accept that your boythighs aren't for everyone?
It's not the worst game I've played, but I did not like the awkward controls, hated the stale japanese humor, and the camera was awful. I played it for a day and regret doing so.
I don't care if you like the game, but don't tote it around as though it were a flawless masterpiece that deserves praise from everyone.
>I did not like the awkward controls
They only seem awkward to you if you have "problems".
I'm serious, if it actually seems difficult for you to enjoy this game due to its controls, you might be a retard.
>Comes with that little stand to make the game more comfortable
>The fucking thing is so small that resting my palms on the desk to use it push my fingers way up above the buttons
And I have baby hands. How the fuck are you supposed to sue that thing
Why the fuck wouldn't it make sense you moron, her snake hair would hardly drop the frame rate when we have relatively high poly shit like Palutena, Robin and Shulk running around fine. Sounds to me like you're pulling shit out of your ass.
The most frequent complaint about KI:U is the controls.
You might be delusional.
Which is a distinctly different character
If Dark Pit ends up being a completely different character (or at least in the style of Ganondorf), complaints will probably cease.
There isn't one.
If each stage only gets 2 tracks in the 3DS version they'd better be good fucking tracks
You've got be fucking kidding me, it's called a poly budget, if she slowed the game down they'd just simplify her model until the game could handle it. This applies to everything in any game, fucker. Consider waiting until you're 18 until you post here.
There's always small yelling fans of any character, even garbage like Dr. Mario or Pichu or Wolf or whatever. It was an outrage when Wolf was announced (and was a clone) for Brawl.
Lucas is less of a clone than most, but I can give you that. If Dark Pit is a Lucas/Ganondorf-type clone (i.e. different enough) then I'm fine with it.
>many players hate a game for legitimate reasons
Oh, so you can come up with -legitimate- reasons to hate Uprising now? Cool, can't wait to hear all about them.
>I'm too impatient for the controls!
For fuck's sake.
Yeah, because that's a good idea, amirite? So she looks like she belongs in a PS1 game? And she'd also be the only one with a looping animation for her hair so the snakes can actually look "alive". Just shut the fuck up.
>controls so bad the game requires purchase of additional accessories to play effectively
You sure convinced me. KI:U is actually the best game ever made.
Dude, I can use the stylus with both hands. Granted, I tend to fuck up more with my left hand, but still.
The game's controls are not difficult to master. The control scheme is also 100% functional and not glitchy or otherwise malfunctioning in any way. If you conclude that this game has bad controls, that just speaks for your own ineptitude.
I already did. You forgot about them already.
These are all legitimate reasons to dislike any game.
I also thought the game was repetitive and became boring too quickly.
I have an XL. I bought it brand new and it didn't come with a strap.
>using the c stick in smash
The new 3ds was a dick move by nintendo, but at least the c stick is hardly needed to play smash effectively.
>Dark Pit added to the game
>Dark Pit added while series mainstays like IC and characters with unique movesets like Wolf and Lucas are dropped
I mean, I literally could not give less of a shit about Lucas, but really? And dropping a character from a series with little representation to add to a series which doesn't need more representation? Sakurai is out of his god damned mind.
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I don't care about Dark Pit but looking at him he looks like the took a week at best to create and he's really popular with kids (similar to how Dark Link was popular when we were kids) so I don't care, it's not like the entire roster has to cater to me specifically, Smash is a popular game that reaches a lot of demographics. As for series being more "deserving" of new characters than KI, they've put an emphasis on new characters this time which makes sense. Kids these days don't know who K. Rool or Ridley are.
>Snake and Lucas will never be in another Smash.
What the say? Did you just say fuck me about? You bitching a little? I’ll have you graduate I know top of my Seals in the Navy Classes, and I’ve been raided in numerous Al Quaeda secret involvements, and I have killed over 300 confirmations. I am a trained gorilla. In warfare, I’m the sniper arm in the entire US force tops. You are targeting me but I’m just another nothing. I will fuck you with precision the wipes of which has never been liked before on this scene. Earth, fuck my marking words. You can get away with thinking that shit over me to the Internet? Fuck again, thinker. As we spy I am networking my secret speaking across the trace and your IP is being prepared right now so you better storm the maggots. The wipes that storms out of the pathetic little thing. You call your life? You’re fucking dead kids. I can be any time. I can weigh you in over seven hundred kills, and that’s my bear hands. Not only am I extensively accessed by trains, but I have no arms for combatting the entire arsenal United States, and I will use it to to wipe your miserable ass. You shit the face off of the continent. If only you could have commented what unholy cleverness your little “retribution” was about. To bring down upon you, maybe you would have fucked your tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re holding the pay, you goddamn idiot. I will drown in shit fury. Sincerely, Your dead fucking kiddo.
>HEY GUYS REMEMBER THIS GUY?! YOU SHOULD REMEMBER HIM, IT WAS THAT CHARACTER YOU ALL FOUND SO ANNOYING!! LOOK AT HIM LAUGH!!
Unlike Edgy Pit and Dr Mario, he doesnt look like a clone, but some still question why he was considered given he literally did nothing.
Inb4 Zapper, YOU, the player used it, not him
>H-HE'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT GUYS, I SWEAR!!
>Only difference is having an edgy personality and using a long ass 360 degree no scope sniper rifle that's somehow called a staff
>Despite this, he was the result of the Mirror of Truth making a CLONE of Pit
>I'll accept Lucina, since she's at least a different character
>There's no excuse for this DeviantArt palette swap dark-n-edgy bullshit. I don't even care if he is a different character
Literally fuck off.
>DP uses 6 different weapons than Pit
>His Final Smash can't be the Treasures because reasons
>Worst case scenario he is a wolf/luigi style clone
>'He looks like him! He's gonna be exactly like hiiiim!'
>Sakurai isn't directing the next Smash Bros
The emphasis is that a literal clone is his own character despite how easy it would've been to make him an alt skin/palette sway, which hilariously enough he was in Brawl before Uprising existed.
You might as well throw in Dr. Luigi because he's totally different from Luigi.
Not understanding context
I wouldn't mind one or two more Kid Icarus characters being playable.
Fuck "franchise representation" bullshit. KIU has a shit ton of characters that would be great for Smash.