Is there actually a good reason to use a mechanical keyboard for games? as people seem to hype them up.
If you type a lot, I'd recommend it. Plus, mech keyboards feel a lot sturdier and will last you forever if you purchase the right one for you. I'd recommends everybody have a good mouse though.
I bought this and it's premium as fuck and easy to clean since the keys are raised. I love it and I got it for $90.
inb4 >$90 on a keyboard
I make an extremely good living off making games.
There's a difference in keys in general.
I used to have a crappy old laptop, but it's key's were PERFECT for casting spam.
I bought a new one and the same actions just don't execute the same.
When I was reading about them the only benefit that stuck out to me was that they're heavier because my current keybard which is very light and has laptop like keys can move about a bit with use.
>Do you own a gaming mouse?
Gaming mice provide extra functionality over standard mice, extra buttons, weight/size adjustments, DPI settings.
A mechanical keyboard, unless it is a mechanical gaming keyboard provides no extra gaming functionality over a standard keyboard. Mechanical are great if you are a typist, they are meh if you are mostly a gamer.
This. With my current keyboard I can't even SD and number keys. I have to drop one for a second to cast a spell while moving in WoW-type games like Tera or something like that. I'm fast enough to do it pretty seamlessly but I more expensive keyboard would be better for precision and min-maxing damage against harder bosses.
Unless you're playing RTS there probably isn't really any kind of advantage you get by using one.
I got one a few years ago though and it's spoiled me.
If you type a lot (programmer/writer or something) it will change your life.
keys require much less actuation force for any switch but blacks, meaning you can press keys more easily
really, the end result of that amounts to 'it just feels better' so if you think what you have now feels not fine but actually good then don't worry about it
If you have a sufficiently crappy keyboard, you won't be able to press a lot of keys simultaneously.
For example, I kept getting rekt in Risk of Rain because I couldn't press up, left and space at the same time.
>>Is there actually a good reason to use a mechanical keyboard for games?
It's really relative. It's mostly do you like the way they feel. Mechanical boards feel different to type on then standard plastic-dome keyboards.
They're generally built more solidly, and should last longer then non-mechanical boards, but considering the price of mechanical vs plastic-dome keyboards that probably isn't much of a selling point.
So are they better? It's really up to how much you like how they feel.
I own one (Cherry MX Brown switches) and I love it, but in addition to gaming on it I do a lot of typing so it serves that purpose for me.
I'd say go try one out see if you like the feel, and then decide for yourself if that feel is worth the money.
I will never have to own another keyboard after this CM storm whatever mechanical keyboard. It has cherry blue switches which feel sexy as fuck, but bad for gaming ultimately. At least I won't have to worry about it dying like the last of my 16 keyboards and I've had it 18 months so far.
I would never invest that much money into one, and for one reason: I'm in an ass backwards city that doesn't sell that much models if any at all, and the only way to listen to how a keyboard sounds is youtube. Considering youtube is unreliable and sound to me makes 80% of the keyboard, I'd say I won't get one any time soon.
>real life: clankety plasticky shit
Yeah, sound is not worth the upgrade.
I have the red version of this one, doesn't have the satisfying click but I feel it's better for faster movement. I fucking fly on this thing. Prefer the blue LEDs though but that's superficial.
>what makes them better for typing?
I like the shorter stroke, and the spring weight on mine. It feels more solid and I can type faster with it.
>that type of keyboard has always been more difficult for me to type on.
That's cool, different people are different surprise. You have to find what works for you, which is why these "X is superior to Y" type threads are so pointless.
Logitech is developing a new gaming keyboard, and I'm going to be a beta tester. What would /v/ like to see in terms of features? Obviously I can't actually talk about the product itself, but I can pass along your ideas
The keys are full sized. The shorter stroke is a result of the keys having a raised actuation point compared to a membrane keyboard. You can still bottom out if you like, but you don't have to
I just want more cheap keyboards with anti-key masking. It's really sad how low the selection is for these sorts of keyboards.
i have a keyboard with cherry mx blacks
games that have functions bound to double taps i can pound out a lot more accurately, and do shit like terran macro cycles or zerg inject cycles a lot faster
and there's nkro, so you never miss keystrokes
My question is do they come in any model that doesn't sound like the coming of the apocalypse?
I tried a razer one but took it back for fear of the skeleton mating calls it was making when I typed
i got one because my keys get greasy and shiny
mechanical keyboard means i can replace the keys
i know you can do this with regular keyboards but theres always the issue of compatibility
What? N-key rollover is the only thing I can think of that you may be referring to, but I've never heard it called that
Any particular reason?
You want Cherry MX Browns
There are plenty of mechanical keyboards that aren't flat like that. I'm using a Das Keyboard Model S right now
forgot to mention that i also wanted a tenkeyless
"N-key rollover" is just a marketing buzzword like any other. It's more common with mechanical keyboard marketing, while "anti-ghosting" is the more typical term used with non-mechanical keyboards that try to minimize key masking. And this is despite the fact that ghosting was only ever a problem with really old keyboards from the '80s and early '90s. Input masking is what happens with modern designs, not ghost inputs.
I've had mine for 6 years and it's still going strong. I hate when the keys get scratched and the letters are gone. I am planning on getting this keyboard in my image with red switches because fuck all that loud clickity clack
plan on getting this in about a month when I get my PFD.
funny enough Razer did the same shit to blackwidow but really didn't change much other then giving normal blackwidow the colors.
>I hate when the keys get scratched and the letters are gone.
Yeah, that's my only real complaint with it. Once I realized rubbing off stains and bits with a bit of moisture was the way to go though--instead of picking at them--the fading rate for the acrylic coating on my keys slowed dramatically.
I'm tempted to get a mechanical keyboard but the explanations I've read about why they are better sound so fucking silly I usually just forget about it.
"Oh, you have to use less force to press down on the keys"
That's ridiculous, how big of a difference can there be? That's hardly worth 90+ dollars.
Was the person who told me this an idiot? Are there any REAL advantages of mechanical keyboards?
Typically yes. However, you can increase the input number through virtual device software - which is what you are paying ridiculous prices for when buying a "gaming" keyboard.
The only good reason to use a mechanical keyboard is that they feel really good to use. All of the other features are just hype. That being said, I do not wish to return to using rubber dome keyboards; they're just that comfortable to use. Pic is what I'm using.
>Are there any REAL advantages of mechanical keyboards?
It will last longer than a rubberdome and they're nicer to type on. The nicer to type on advantage is something you'll need to experience for yourself and preferably with different switches, but that might be hard as most brick and mortar stores only carry blues if anything.
They're not as sticky. I don't really remember a difference in pressure when making keystrokes prior to switching over but I do remember shitty rubber dome keyboards had this annoying stick to them. It's definitely not worth an upgrade to "improve your gaming" but it's nice and if you can get one on the cheap or your company foots the bill why not?
It took a while to get used to. There's an embedded one, but it's really wonky to use. The big upside is that I can fit my mouse on my keyboard tray. I can always get a separate tenkey if I really want one :^)
I use my numpad any time I'm putting in numbers outside word composition, which is often. I always map inputs to it any time I'm playing a game without mouse control, which is most 2D games and most emulation.
Everyday at work. Pretty often for personal use. For gaming, it depends on the game. When I emulate all my functions are there and when I play racing games they are shortcuts for shit like fuel rate usage and tire pressure stuff.
Corsair K70 with brown switches is the best keyboard i've ever owned
Raised keys so a blast of compressed air cleans it out completley, browns are perfect for typing and vidya
no regrets, can't go back to normal keyboards now
>tfw I'm going to shill >100 for the RGB version to match battlestation
>people buying corsair keyboards
lamo. might as well buy logishit/razer gamurguy garbage
Personally, I find that since my fingers are on the home row anyway, it's faster to use the numbers at the top than a dedicated number pad. I will use it when I'm doing lots of data entry though, which isn't often
I guess I don't see the appeal in mapping functions to the numpad. I have more than enough mouse buttons and if that's not enough, the plethora of keys within easy reach of WASD plus modifiers is too many to assign commands to.
Eh, different strokes for different folks
I played with that at PAX last week.
It was fucking mesmerizing. There's a setting where you can have the lights default to off, then they make multicolored waves outward from each keypress.
It's actually pretty nice. You can just hit the macro keys with your thumb, instead of moving your whole hand.
I'm still trying to find a mechanical keyboard with them in that placement. Tesoro makes one, but I don't know if I can live without volume control on my keyboard.
I regret buying a razer keyboard, might as well just put my money for an extra cheap mechanical keyboard. I know I was so fucking stupid, you don't need to tell me.
If you are considering a razer keyboard, DON'T, it's shit.
>used a membrane forever
>pick up some generic mechanical gaming keyboard
>typing speed explodes to greater heights
I don't play MMO's, but a buddy has that keyboard solely for the thumb macros because he'll binge on whatever MMO he's currently playing.
I've been trying to find a mechanical keyboard with thumb macros for playing shooters. So I can have some keys to press while keeping my fingers on WASD.
was it like one of those 50$ rubber domes?
i'm pretty close to finishing my battlestation. i have hd558's, a quickfire TK with brown switch and a 2013 deathadder, feels good man.
For a hardcore gamer, I assume there's a pretty big difference. I end up typing almost the entire day for work, and there is a definite difference between a membrane and mechanical keyboard. The force of pushing the keys on a membrane keyboard, amplified over hours of typing, definitely puts more strain on my hands. I have to stop more often and used to have to ice my hands when I got home some days. I've also found that with membrane keyboards, I often have to replace the keyboard relatively frequently: I used to go through a keyboard in 2-3 months pretty easily. Mechanical seem to be much sturdier: I've had this one for a good 8 months now, and it's still going strong.
For the average gamer, I'm sure it's not a huge difference. For a hardcore gamer who will spend hours upon hours playing every day, there probably is in aggregate.
MX Blue masterrace
I need a new keyboard, what's a good tenkeyless that isn't ducky under 100?
Haha, no. I'll probably have carpal tunnel by age 30 though.
But really, it's not that different from someone who has to consistently lift heavy things at work or something. I take very good care of my hands: I don't sleep on them, only type with the correct hand position, do exercises specifically for my fingers and a bunch of other things. Gotta take care of the things that rake in the dosh!
Mechanical is for typing.
It's not good for holding down keys.
If you play shitty point-and-click adventures (assfaggots included) then go for it.
If you play real video games then don't.
It's actually a re-branded Filco, someone did a teardown and proved it, that's when I bought mine, lol. I don't know about the 2nd run or not, but the originals were all just Filcos.
>I'll probably have carpal tunnel by age 30 though.
Why? Because you use your hands a lot? Please stop buying into and perpetuating this myth. Carpal tunnel syndrome is caused by repetitive, -strenuous- wrist motion, such as operating a lever constantly, and even more importantly, genetic risk factors.
My mechanical keyboard is lit up and it helps me while I play in the dark.
I can turn the lights on and off if I wish. Regular keyboards also feel weird to type on to me now that I've owned my mechanical keyboard.
In short, they're not really needed, but have a few benefits. if you want to blow your money on it, that is up to you as always.
>want an expensive mechanical keyboard
>look at my current keyboard
>spent $20 on it six months ago
covered in dust and crud
if I got one, I'd need to get one of those rubber covers like you see the guys at the mechanics use.
As long as you have a soft rubberdome, then no, there isn't. I have a cooler master storm stealth with cherry mx reds, which is the best one for gaming there is. Of course I wouldn't go back to rubberdome keyboards, but I had this very soft rubberdome once and it worked wonders.
However, if you play games where you need to repeatedly press a key, such as rhythm games and the like, then there is nothing like the ones with red keys like mine. You just barely need to press the key for it to activate, which means you don't have to go all the way down AND the required force for it to activate is naturally way lower, so hand strain is really something that's not going to happen and you can repeatedly press a key like a mad fucker on LSD. However, even then, put your priorities in check: if you have something urgent or if your pc is kinda shitty, then don't pour money on something so expensive as a mech keyboard.
Pic related, my keyboard and mouse. This mouse, however, is shit, but I've grown way too attached to the side buttons to use anything else.I prefer palm grip, so this one sucks for that since it's too small. It's a razer naga molten. Avoid razer the fucking plague itself, I only bought this one because I was playing mmos back then, although it works just fine for any other game and the side buttons make everything extremely convenient, even in single player games.
I use the K50 (membrane K95) on desk for everyday use+gaming, it's still really good. For long typing I use a Model M and take a Poker II to College.
Somehow the K50 feels so different to any other Membrane it's so weird. Maybe it's the high-profile keys but they feel smooth but with a tactile feel. It's so strange because all membranes are pretty much identical switches.
Corsair mech keyboards are extremely overpriced for what you get and they have shit build quality. The leds die very fast and quite often, plus some keyboard don't have full mech layout, such as the k90.
They just look good, that's it.
not for any 0-9/a-z characters, but I do for certain keys that I don't often use such as print screen and such.
Sometimes the F1 - F12 keys because I don't use them all the time either.
I use this piece of shit
and yes i do play on pink for some weird reason
>all this LED lit +$100 garbage
Pfft, I bet you can't even roll that keyboard up.
>mfw using a palm rest for the first time
Can't play without one now
Why didn't neural interfaces ever take off? I remember reading about a bunch of peripherals that used that for games in old 90's PC mags. Why are we still using fucking plastic/rubber buttons when we could be using our Minds?
>Not just using this
No LED bullshit, decent price, cool duck logo. What more do you nig nogs want?
I've been thinking about getting pic related. Anyone have experience with Tesoro?
Although I'd really like one with a volume control on it. I have one on the Logitech G510 I've been using and I love having it right there.
Honestly, the logo is what sealed the deal for me. The duck on their normal line doesn't look as good. pic related
Fuck forgot the picture.
Personal experience..I find the mechanical keyboards only good for the anti-ghosting stuff. Those gaming keyboards aren't fucking durable as promised either and the paint on the keys fade off too easily.
Is that a removable numpad?
Man it might seem like a neat idea, but it really isn't. I had a keyboard that let you change which side you had the numpad on or remove it entirely and it ended up just making the keyboard itself shoddy.
I've also got the sidewinder x4. The other anon that said the wire is shit is dead on.
The pad on the front is also really good at accumulating dirt and muck and all kinds of gross shit while being really hard to clean.
You're using it for hours on end each day. Buy a good keyboard.
Regardless of if it's actually better or not for games, mechanical keyboards feel much better to use and you use a keyboard for a lot more than video games.
It's the same thing as a mouse, shitty mice where you have to mash the button to register a click, it's just stupid to live with that shit.
The quality of life upgrade you get from a better keyboard and mouse is fucking huge.
I'm using red switches, you? also, why wouldn't you mark that sweet ass duck as a bonus? Either way, nice taste mang
>been using this since I got it
>even have two now
It just werks
As much as I like the TAKATAKATAKATAKATAKA A mechanical gives me its loud enough that my landlord told me to get rid of the fucking thing cause it was waking up the neighbors.
Opinions on topre keyboards? I doubt many here are willing to drop 300+ on a single keyboard, but I'm curious if anyone's ever used one. I'd like to know because I am considering buying one in the near future, as someone who types fairly frequently and for my videojuegos
great for build quality, awful for me because I have red switches and it's a moot point that they're silent because I bottom out all the time and smash right onto the metal and it makes a ton of noise