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Hey, /v/. I just got pic related in the mail. What should I expect? I've never played a Dragon Quest game before.
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>>261657068
A flying bed.
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>>261657068
An unremarkable below-average quality RPG.
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>>261657068
Is that Dragon Ball Z?
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Why on earth would you ask such a stupid god damn question after already buying the game. Play the motherfucker and see. Who gives a fuck what answers you'll get here.
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>>261657068
>What should I expect?

an epic adventure. although I don't think I'd rec VI to someone as their first DQ game, doesn't really matter I guess, have fun.
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>>261657974
But mah /V/ culture!
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>>261657632
>>261658150
Is it really that bad?
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>>261657068

Return it and buy Dragon Quest IV
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Its pretty solid and since you've never played a DQ game before then you can go and start with the worst and go up from there.
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>>261657068
If you've never played a dragon quest you'll love it, its ok for a DQ game but not a bad RPG
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It's a great game, don't listen to the DQV/DQVIII shitters.
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Do the DQ games on DS have furigana?
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>>261657068
Pretty good, Murdaw will rape your ass even when you're supposed to win. It's not as good as most other DQ titles but it has some of the better characters, along with some of the most boring.
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Expect this song to not play nearly enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P3zlKbBcVk
>>261659108
>Murdaw will rape your ass even when you're supposed to win.
Jesus fuck this. What an dick.
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>>261659108
>some of the better characters, along with some of the most boring.
Set them up from most best to most boringest.
I'm gonna knock your ass down harder than Garland ever could.
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>>261661183
Doesn't get more boring than Nevan
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>>261657068
Looooads of filler that artificially expand the lenght of this game
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>>261657240
Completely uncessary considering it becomes obsolete not much latter in the game

Still a much more solid DQ than IX.
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>>261658342
>>261657068
As far as I know, VI is still pretty good as far as games go, but for a Dragon Quest game people seem to consider it to be one of the weaker entries (I think the reason being a change in development teams or something). Not to call it bad, but you should look into playing III, IV, V, and VIII as well if possible.
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>>261661502
Fuck you, Nevan was mah nigga.
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>>261661741
>reccing 8 over 6
This is how I know you're a faggot.
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>>261662217
I'm not recommending it over VI, just that he should try to play those other ones as well, regardless of whether he winds up liking or disliking VI. If he dislikes VI, he at least gets to see if there's another in the series he likes rather than dropping it (seen people do that for various series, dropping them after one game without giving any others a chance), and if he likes VI, more games in the series for him to enjoy.
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Is this one fun?
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>>261662723
No. I really wanted it to be though.
Thank god 10 did what 8 and 9 tried to, but RIGHT.
YES, EVEN BEING AN MMO.
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>>261657068
It's alright. Not sure why you chose that one as your first DQ though. All I remember about it though was grinding a lot to get the overpowered abilities the end-game classes give you
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>>261662723
Yeah, more so if you have experience with the series to see the references. rip free dlc
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>>261662723
It's okay. Probably the worst game in the series after the original and II. Probably the best thing it does is the massive amounts of fanservice for all of the other games.
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>>261663505
No, fuck you.
References don't make a game good.
Especially not one with fucking horrendous balancing like 9 (and 8).
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>>261662723
Worse than 6 in my opinion But all dragon quest games are great
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>>261663798
But the balancing was fine? The only broken shit is post game shit. Grinding for drops can be ass but autistic japs figured out how to RNG snipe things within weeks
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>>261664139
>But the balancing was fine?
No, it fucking was NOT.
Most weapons and classes were completely worthless compared to others.
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>>261664297
You can use anything you want anon. About all you need is one paladin once your cameo bosses are way too strong at like lvl 30+. Even then you can use whatever you want for the other party members.
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>>261665023
>Even then you can use whatever you want for the other party members.
You really can't. There's no fucking point to most weapons at all.
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>>261657068
ssj2 gohan on the cover
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>>261657068
5>4>3>7>8>6>9>1>2
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>>261665763
Those power rankings are outrageous, anon.
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>>261665763
How bad were 1 and 2

Was it at least Jojo 1 and 2 bad
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>>261657068
mmmm
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>>261665867
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>>261665516
Except for the part where you fucking can. I did so I know you can too.

I had my MC as either gladiator or paladin use swords and axes when hunting metals, a martial artist who looked like Alena using claws, a sage who was my heal/buff bitch and my 4th character would change jobs depending on what I felt would be more useful for a particular boss but she was usually paladin if MC was glad or luminary or something if MC was paladin.

You can use what you want, you dont need 4 sword users wearing falcon swords to beat the game or mega bosses, you just need strategies that work for what you want to use
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>>261666113
>Jojo 2 bad
what are you smoking?

1 & 2 are still bretty good. They don't have stupid cut-scene. There's no hand holding, you figure out what to do by talking to npc which pretty cool.
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I'm thinking of emulating Dragon Warrior 1-3 (GBC) on my smartphone after I finish IX. How do they hold up?
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My first and only DQ so far was IV and it was excellent. I've heard V and VIII are the best ones, with III, VI, and VII(assuming you have a spare 150 hours) are the next best. Then IX is meh and I and II are ancientbad tier.
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>>261667041
The first two games are noticeably dated, but the first game is short and fairly easy. The second game is a bit of a slog, but it's alright. DQIII is amazing though, easily one of the best games in the series.
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http://na.square-enix.com/us/blog/message-dragon-quest-creator-yuji-horii

haven't even read it yet, lets react together
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>>261666861
I meant as in if the game doesn't know what it wanted to be, has poop graphics that gradually become stylized and stopped being relevant from 3 and onward.

I wouldn't read all the way to part 8 if I didn't like 1 and 2
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>>261667379
I can get down with that. Do the early ones play like IX where you just kind of wander around and talk to people to figure out what to do? That's what I'm liking about IX so far.

VIII is the only other DQ game I've played and beaten fyi.
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>>261667487
It's a video and IT'S FUCKING NOTHING.
>the remaining iOS games are also coming over
Yeah, we already knew that.
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>>261667970
Pretty much all of the DQ games follow that formula. DQIII presents itself as kinda streamlined in the first parts of the game, but once you get the boat you can pretty much go wherever the fuck you want and find shit to do.
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>>261657068
One of my favorite DQs
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>>261667487
>Please be excite for our mobile games!
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How long are these games typically? Specifically 4 and 5.
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It's my favorite in the main series apart from X.
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>>261665763
>5 fags
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>>261668285
35 hours
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>>261667487
>remaining ios games
>pls buy 4 and 8 mobile
>no mention of ignored titles

Horii is on a leash
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>>261668285
Depends, but 40 hours on average.
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VII > III = IV > VI > V > VIII > IX > I > II
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>>261668285
30-40 hours. 8's a bit longer and 7's 100+ hours
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>>261668381
shut the fuck up, my wife is in that game
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>>261668575
He's dying.
Also
>here's a message guys
>a short interview asking two questions that HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED CONSTANTLY
>any last comments
>"buy the mobile games"
I wouldn't be surprised if he was held at gunpoint.
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>>261668529
>>261668603
Is this some Final Fantasy shit where I'll end up fighting some God by the end of the game?

Please excuse my ignorance. I've just never really looked into this series much.
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>>261668737
Congrats, your taste is terrible.
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A game that is literally 10 hours of good content, at most, with a good 20 or more hours of pointless filler slapped on. It's hands down the worst in the series besides maybe 2 or 7.
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>>261668889
>opinions
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>>261668860
There's only one game where you fight God (7) and that's only as a bonus fight and he even implies he's not even taking you seriously, especially when he tells jokes in battle to make you laugh.
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>>261668860
No, the bad guy is almost always a devil lord.

And he is just there, he doest matter much, what matters is the journey.
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>"hurr filler" fags
Explain then what you even consider filler, because there are quite a few DQ games with filler, and 6 doesn't even have that much.
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>>261668737
I dont care. 5 and 8 fags are obnoxious.

>>261668902
The hell are you talking about.
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>>261669039
>>261669054
Thanks guys. So should I get 4 or 5 for my first game?
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>>261669286
4
Play the zenithian trilogy in order (4-5-6)
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>>261669054
>he doesn't matter much
Depends on the game.
I'd say the least "threatening" were Nimzo and Corvus
Everyone else fucked shit up in some way.
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Does anyone else think 4 would be much better if you just started as the Hero? I having to play the first 5 levels, which are the most repetitive and grindy, 4 times over. Everything past the boat is great though.
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>dat pixel animation
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>>261669374
Thanks man. I'll get on it.
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>>261669286
4 is like the series crash-course and one of the quickest to beat.
5 is different from all others and not a good representative of the series as a whole.
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>>261669617
Keep a separate save and quit being a faggot.
4 was one of the first games to even do something like that. If you had just MET everybody and started from chapter 5, there would be no impact to it.
Also
>chapters 1, 2, and 4
>repetitive and grindy
Your faggotry is off the charts.
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>>261669593
Psaro is my favorite final boss.

>>261669617
No, I love the chapter system
>grindy

You dont know what gind is
Grind to beat the game was completely removed from DQ starting with DQ4DS
If you have to grind post that game to beat the story you just suck dick at the game

I can complete Ragnar chapter without grinding at all, not a single battle, this cant be done in the PSX version though where you have to grind a couple of levels to complete Healie´s cave
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>>261669669
I think it's rotoscoped 3d
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Soon
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>>261670202
No, it's just tweens and body parts.
Pretty good tweens and body parts (especially since they swap in some for the actions), though.
I think it looks "off" because of the resolution differences coming from the PS1, while still using a similar engine.
Dragon's Crown had its sprites done similarly. I was fucking stunned at how many body parts Rannie was composed of, because looking at the animation in-game, you'd think there were ALOT less.
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>>261670298
>shorts/spats
>no pantyhose
NOT SURE HOW TO FEEL ABOUT THIS
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>>261670910
Where is that pic from.

And yeah its weird that theyd change her legwear but I like both.
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>>261670712
That's pretty amazing then
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Try to make some sort of compelling reply to the youtube video or blog post or both. I'm sure SE is going to look at hits and comments to judge if DQ has 10 fans or 10,000 fans in english
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>>261669374
Wait, there are more DQ games that share a continuity? Fuck, I thought it was just 1 and 2.

I only have 6 (and 9, that I already finished). Everything else is almost impossible to find.
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>>261671483
1-2-3 and 4-5-6. All of the other games are unrelated to each other.
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>>261671483

Loto trilogy 1-2-3
Zenithian trilogy 4-5-6

Thats it.

Well there is a implied connection between 1 and 8 but its very small
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>>261671483
1, 2 and 3
4, 5 and 6
The trilogies. 4-6 are more loosely related though, they all have the cloud kingdom
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>>261669374
If that's the case then it's 6-4-5
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>>261671827
Chronologically sure, but its better to play them in release order.
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>>261671181
I do, too, but fuck man.
At best they could meet me half-way and give her sheer/tan pantyhose along with the shorts.
>>261671219
Yeah.
Here's what I mean for Dragon's Crown:
http://www.spriters-resource.com/other_systems/dragonscrown/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTiGov4k_yo
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>>261672156
>tfw we didn't even get this in america
>we didn't even get abel's anime in full in america
feels bad
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>>261657068
I enjoyed it. the story in V was the best, but VI had the best characters and atmosphere to me.

Just wish it was expanded a bit more story-wise.
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>>261672516
Even if Ashlynn wasnt developed much that ending still got me.
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>>261672156
Holy shit this anime could seriously scare kids
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=artG-GooLOk
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNA5i1Svc3s
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>>261662217

8 is the best in the series, gtfo

inb4 hurr you only played 8 !!!1 look im an elitist faggot i pretend the game everyone likes is shit
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>>261675704
No it isnt. 8 is one of the worst ones.
Only 1 and 2 are worse than 8
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>>261675704
>8 is the best in the series, gtfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
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>>261675704
You some kinda babby?
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>>261675993
I'd honestly put them above.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suUPr-lbzC4
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>>261669742

What makes 5 different ?
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VI is great, you've got at least a sixty hour game ahead of you. It's a tad bit generic though, but exploring is super fun.
OH, and don't tell that guy he's a monster.
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>>261676364
>That bell in the background

Holy shit amazing the atmosphere it makes
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>>261676269
>>261676118
>>261676261
>>261675993

all this shit taste
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>>261677028
8's good but its not the best DQ.
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>>261676364
>my fucking face when the estark battle video
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All those saying DQVI is bad are irredeemably retarded and extremely gay.

OP, if you haven't playd DQ before then I think you'll like it (if you're into JRPGs, of course)
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Best older and newer DQ to emulate?
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>>261677412
Post it I cant find it.
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>>261677330

Maybe, I think III hits the formula perfectly in a way. But theres this anti-VIII hipsterish culture in every DQ thread that is fucking obnoxious.
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Man I wish I had my carvercomic.jpg handy.
>I checked the maker's site again
>both Carver and Amos were in the upper 60s
JESUS FUCK
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>>261677802
8's got a lot more railroading going on than a normal DQ. So while the world is huge you can only go to a few places. Even once you get a boat you can land at like 3 spots
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>>261677752
All are good

>>261677802
No such thing, everyone on /v/ praises 5 and 8 when they arent that good.

Its just like FF7 it has nothing to do with being hipster you retard.
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>>261677802

DQVIII has easily the best production values, an incredible soundtrack, a great sense of adventure, beautiful art style and a charming world.
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>>261678025
which one is usually recommended to start at?
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>>261677802
There is nothing more obnoxious than 8 fags.

>>261678071
Every game in the series has all that except the production values that only make that game slower.


>>261678153
4
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>>261676593

Prease answer.
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>>261678153
1 play in order
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>>261678220

No you're the obnoxious faggot shitting all those threads with your "dont be a 5/8 babby" every time someone says something good about those games.
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>>261678259
Not thay guy and no idea what he is talking about.
5 is very standard.
Its has its quirks like every game, in its case marrying and monster allies
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>>261678434
No, saying good things is fine as they are good games.
Praising them like they are the only good ones in the series is not.
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>>261678153
I'd prefer people start at 1, but 4's another good starting point
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>>261677802
>hipsters
>not the people who think 8 is the best
Nigga please.
>>261677786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-6tSChgXWo
This isn't the one I was looking for, but it's similar.
>8 fucking people
Goddamn.
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How many of you own slime related merch?
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>>261678645
Sorry, I tried going through 1 and I couldn't make it.
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>>261678684
Nice but thats not Estark thats primal estark or somehting, I wanted to see classic Estark.
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>>261678845
Play the snes version, much less grind. Play the nes version later on to experience the pain and wonder
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>>261678758
A few small plastic slimes and one jewel slime
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>>261678758
I bought a plushy slime in Japan.

>>261678947
Hm, you're right. I tried the NES version. I'll give the SNES version a shot someday.
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>>261664139
The balancing was completely busted if you used tension at all, ever.
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>>261678758
Slimes are casual as hell.
Platypunks/Monjars are where it's at niggas.
Spooky and Dracky are also acceptable.
>>261678845
Congrats, you're a slime.
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>>261678684
>they only have 2 gladiators
>their healers getting wrecked

hah
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>>261664297
Wrong you can beat the game with any class
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>>261678865
Here we go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvzJlSLSh28
>>261678947
SNES version is almost as bad. GBC is the fastest.
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>>261679089
Until enemies have so much defense you have to use tension to damage them
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>>261679089
>tension
>in post-game
hahaha nope. Unless you're in a party of all real people, you're gonna lose tension at the drop of a hat, given how much post-game bosses love using disruptive wave.
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>>261679103
>Congrats, you're a slime.
I surprisingly fine with that.

>>261679395
>SNES version is almost as bad. GBC is the fastest.

Guys, make up your mind or I'll have to wait for a remake.
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>>261679395
I'll take the beauty of the snes over the gb version.

>>261679552
Any is fine. Nes lets you farm a chest for infinite gold pretty easily which removes most of the grind
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>>261679395
Amazing thanks
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How is Dragon Quest X? I've heard mixed things about it.
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>>261680004
Fucking amazing.
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>>261657068
>What should I expect?
just play the fucking game you retard
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>>261680004
I bought it but soon they reinstated Japan-only access. I started with a fish-dude and it was fucking slow. I started again with a warrior and, although it still was slow, it picked up speed in just a couple of hours.
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>>261679395
Haha holy shit and this is at 1:41
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>>261679434
Use debuffs
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>>261680951
Sap was my mortal enemy in IX, it hardly ever worked for me.

>>261680004
It's really good, probably the best MMO created, I'd sub immediately if they localized it. I say that as someone subbed to FFXIV

>>261680435
You can grab a free vpn to keep playing if your free time isnt out yet. I almost jumped on the all-in-one when they removed the ip block
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>>261657068
Trade it for DQV.
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>>261682452
Thats retarded, every DQ is good.
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>>261679359
That doesn't make them less shit compared to others.
You will NEVER need to use a minstrel once you get to alltrades.
You will NEVER need to use a priest or mage when you get a sage.
NEVER need to use martial artist or warrior once you get a gladiator.
NEVER need to waste time with Ranger (like I did) or Thief or Luminary.
NEVER need to use an Armamentalist once you get at their skills maxed.
So what does that leave you with, class-wise?
Gladiator, Sage, Paladin. And you don't even really need to use a paladin unless you really want that "limit-break" that makes you temporarily invulnerable.
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>>261682718
>every DQ is good.

But DQV is clearly the best.
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>>261679759
>I'll take the beauty of the snes over the gb version.
Enjoy your start up lag every battle and shitty translation job.
Also ugly ass DQ5 engine sprites.
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>>261683003
Not really.
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>>261682928
I dont see your point.
I play as whatever class I feel like playing and never had a problem. This is not a competitive game. In every single single player game there are things that work best than others.
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>>261682928
I used a mage all the time, even beat all the legacy bosses to 99 with it.

.
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cont from >>261682928

Weapon-wise is even worse. They tried making most weapons not suck by giving them alchemy upgrades, but even then there was no fucking point to most of them, especially since you couldn't use the item-powers of unequipped weapons and armors or swap between equipment mid-battle.

Swords - no point of any other sword except Uber Falcon and this is by far the best damaging method for anything NOT a metal slime-type enemy which is 99.9% of all enemies
Spears - versatile and effective, easily the best utility of all weapons
Knives - completely pointless, basically a shitty version of swords
Wands - pointless for anything except casters and worthless for physical combat
Whips - totally worthless because of the enemy number limitations, meaning you will never be overwhelmed by numbers, even then there are plenty of other weapons that do single and multi-target combat better, especially single combat because whips suck at that
Staves - spears' retarded cousin, but worse because their only multi-hit runs off a shitty formula of strength and magical might that weakens it more than it should
Claws - a shitty version of swords again
Fans - would be worth it if disruptive wave weren't so common, nullifying their one good skill. And hustle dance is a shitty pinch-heal compared to those that specialize in it.
Axes - This one pissed me off the most. Axes were quite effective in DQ8, but worthless in 9. Spears shit all over them in 9, and their ultimate attack, whopper chop, doesn't even work properly. It says it deals a "critical strike", but it's not a critical hit and uses magic as a modifier, meaning its worthless against anything you'd want to use it on. Helm Splitter is still nice, but honestly, that's not enough reason to use Axes over spears.
tbc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CM87DWVgFQ
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>>261682928
martial artist is a faster glad, why would you stack 2 slow classes when you can have a fast person
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>>261683883
And I used any weapon I wanted and never had a problem either.
You wasted your time with that wall of text.
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>>261683883
How 2 cry, a lesson from anon
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>>261679395
Uh, what? I've played all three versions of DQ1 , and SNES no where near as s;ow as NES. GBC MIGHT be faster (Although I recall both taking me about as long to beat) but it can't be that huge of a difference, plus the SNES version has very pleasant graphics and music. Not that the GBC version is bad or anything, but still.

Now if you're talking about DQ2, I haven't put forth enough time in it (made good distance in the SNES version but lolZSNES messed up my save somehow). I could be wrong when it comes to that game.
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cont from >>261683883
Hammers - surprisingly decent, especially compared to the big nerf axes had. Bagsy Last can be alright, and there are plenty more material enemies than plant types. Crackerwhack makes hammers worth giving a fuck at all. However, it's not worth using over swords or spears in boss combat.
Boomerangs- suffer the same problems as whips. Gigathrow is worthless on top of that. Metalicker is pathetic compared to other metal-killing options. Really, it's just as bad as it was in 8, but worse because there's not even big groups to make them worth a single fuck.
Bows - they're basically the retarded love child of spears and wands. No point to bows over either of those two.

So in the end, your best options are: the uber falcon sword, spears, wands for casters, and maybe crackerwhack/bagsy last hammers for random battles if you really like hammers, if not than just the first 3. Everything else is worthless in comparison.
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>>261682928
My party was minstrel, mage, martial artist and thief

never changed once
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>I didn't have a problem with x class or y weapon
That's not the fucking point.
You can use what you want, but there's no fucking point to not using the best shit you can.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-d26evxikM
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>>261684256
snes and gbc remakes are the exact same in xp rates and gald. he's just trying to troll people to play the shitty gbc versions.
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>>261685137
This happens in every game ever.
Its only a problem if the weak stuff is useless to beat the game. this is not the case in any DQ game.
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>>261662723
bad for a first game, its got no real characters, all party members are self made, and quests are very episodic
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8crZBHfrLIM
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>>261685432
And you're trying to troll people to play the mediocre as fuck snes versions.
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>>261685779
What's the deal with this bitch? Is she like the shantotto of DQ10?
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>>261685432
I thought so, but I was just covering my basis in case he was being dumb (which is still very well true)

Also:

>Gald
Consider making a Tales thread to rid yourself of that mistake.
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>>261685710
Sasuga western fans.
Not saying your opinion is bad or anything, its just so stereotypical.
There are 2 kinds of DQ games

1,2,3,9,10 Japan prefer this
4,5,6,7,8 The west prefers this
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No this is.
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>>261686245
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So DQX is coming to USA 3DS only? That's bullshit
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>>261685779
>dat sword
"That thing was too big to be called a sword..."
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>>261686523
No where did you hear that?
That wouldnt be possible anyways the 3DS version just streams the game
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>>261686035
Japan only likes 9 because they can actually co-op and canvass over there with ease.
I'd fucking love 10 (actually I already do) IF IT WAS ACTUALLY IN LOCALIZED IN ENGLISH
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>>261686867
And because they love 3 style.
Theyd love it the same even if 9 didnt have any kind of multiplayer
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>>261686035
FWIW, Yuji Horii has said that DQ5 was his favorite game in the series to work on. Also, a lot of people in the West seem to like 9 the most, although I suspect that it being the first DQ for many people is a huge part of that.
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>>261686791
>That wouldnt be possible anyways the 3DS version just streams the game
This.
>the 3ds version doesn't even have the game in it, just a code to download it and some extras
My fucking face when I found that out.
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>>261686996
Except 9 was like a shitty version of 3 in comparison.
They fucking love powerleveling though.
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>>261687432
You are insane
9 is a perfected version of 3
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dq4: could not get past the first chapter because of the goddamned cockney accent in ragnar's story
dq5: first dq i ever beat. it was awesome.
dq6:
dq7: good. probably the best one if you have xxl nostalgia goggles for jrpgs.
dq8: i still can't get into it.
dq9: absolute shit. not to mention how slow the game is with constant sluggish framerate

opinions.
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>>261686867
It's too bad DQ9 was made before Streetpass's were a thing. Getting Streetpasses in the west is tough enough in the west but at least possible in the right cities (mainly metropolitan) or locations (College/University, Cons) along with the relay pass thing at AT&T hotspots. Finding a person by chance in America with DQIX in canvas mode would be impossible nowadays, and was probably really tough even back then (except at Cons or so I heard).

The only place I know that does frequent DQIX canvasses is some group that meets at the Nintendo Store in NYC once a week. It's kinda cool knowing they're still doing it after so long.
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>>261687557
and i totally forgot 6 because i haven't beaten it yet, but i've had my fun times with it. ashlynn's my nigga
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>>261686035
>1,2,3,9,10 Japan prefer this
dq8 is the highest selling ps2 game in japan at 3.6 million
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Any chances of Dragon quest 10 coming out outside of Japan?
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>>261687708
And? You should compare to other DQ games

9 shits all over it with 4.5M
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>>261657068
I think it's cool blue haired Gogeta is on the cover.
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>>261687297
It's for taking advantage of those fans that REALLY like a nice box on their shelf. Nippon people are even bigger on this sort of thing than Burger people, for a game like DQ it's not surprising.
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>>261687897
Every thread.
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>>261687479
>perfect
HAHAHAHA OH WOW
>can't transfer spells and stats between class changes
>skills clog up the selection list if you learn more than a few
>no personalities
>can't equip other weapons mid-battle or use non-equipped weapons and gear as items
>no fucking pachisi or casinos
>REMOVED spells such as the entire zap line
>never enough monsters per-battle to make various multi-foe targetting weapons, spells, and skills worth a fuck
>unavoidable battles due to enemy and path ratios not allowing you to pass by without a fight, to the point where monsters will literally spawn on points to go between areas
>completely shitty dungeon design (no, grottos DON'T make up for that)
>focus on retarded power-leveling
>class and weapon balance is shit in comparison (I say that, and 3 had Jesters and Merchants, so you KNOW I'm serious)
>story was weak as hell, along with bosses
>plus alpha translation
10 is a far better contender to 3 than 9 will ever be.
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>>261687780

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/09/04/square-enix-love-bring-dragon-quest-x-west/

Who knows Anon. I'm sure SE is just talking out of their ass to please fans.
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>>261688779
>can't transfer spells and stats between class changes
Good that way classes stay unique
>skills clog up the selection list if you learn more than a few
Why is this a problem?
>no personalities
They were useless
>can't equip other weapons mid-battle or use non-equipped weapons and gear as items
Yes you can actually
>no fucking pachisi or casinos
Yeah that sucks but I never used casinos personally
>REMOVED spells such as the entire zap line
Nah they added a fuckload of spells who cares about zap
>never enough monsters per-battle to make various multi-foe targetting weapons, spells, and skills worth a fuck
Yes its easy
>unavoidable battles due to enemy and path ratios not allowing you to pass by without a fight, to the point where monsters will literally spawn on points to go between areas
Better than random battles
>completely shitty dungeon design (no, grottos DON'T make up for that)
Yes they do
>focus on retarded power-leveling
wat
>class and weapon balance is shit in comparison (I say that, and 3 had Jesters and Merchants, so you KNOW I'm serious)
3 had worse balance
>story was weak as hell, along with bosses
no story was good as always
>plus alpha translation
Not the fault of the game
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>>261688919
Nah, both of those guys are serious, but the higher ups are probably being fucking faggots again.
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>>261689369

Well if they're serious about localizing VII 3D and X I'm glad. I just wish they would DQ in the West another chance.
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I love Dragon Quest so much. I just wanna play the new games. Gimme the games, SE. Please.
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>>261665516
Are you actually this bad at vidya games? My sister beat this shit when she was like 10 and i know she didnt know what the fuck she was doing.
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>>261657068
should've just played it on snes
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>>261692412
>No party chat.
>Grind.
>Worse animations.

No he really shouldnt
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>>261657068
I still don't understand how the story ties in with the rest of the games.
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>>261690408
no
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>>261693059
At the end you see an egg hatch

Thats the Zenithian dragon from 4 and 5
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>>261693304
Oh, it's a prequel even though it's the 6th game. I guess it makes sense now.
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>>261693639
Yeah just like 3 is a prequel to 1
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>>261665763
5 was good but I prefer 4, the pacing was better.
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>>261662723
play XII you won't regret it.
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>>261695731
Are you from the future?
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>>261688919
I want to believe. DQX seem like the only MMO I would be willing to sub for.

Damn SE you are so fucking willing to throw money at almost everything but when it comes to DQ "too risky"
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>>261697013

Me too Anon. I really regret buying a month of FFXIV.
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>You will never go on fun DQX adventures
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>>261687780
If we kick and scream loud enough, maybe.

It would make a shitload of money if they do, but they're fucking stupid
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>>261697537
I did
For the week they lifted the IP ban.
Ill be able to say that I played DQX
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>>261697827
Almost everyone agreed it was because of the 3DS version. Either it fucks with it or so travelers can play it everywhere in the world. Doesn't mean a damn thing in the west.
>>261697428
I'm still shocked people care about FF after all this time. For the past 10 years it done nothing but shit the bed.
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Saw the rpggamer owner tweet this earlier. Rev up them twitters and retweets
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>>261698341
>3DS version

So why is it back again then?
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>>261698476
>Rocket Slime on the bottom
Adorable
>>261698774
Is it back up? Thought they took it down.
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>>261699492
its back up
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>>261699492
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>>261698476
>we'd like like you
>Marketing is also crutial
Might want to fix this.
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>>261698476

I've tweeted SE's NA account a couple times. I plan to write an email soon.
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>>261699694
I didn't make it. I think its from the gamefaqs thread
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>>261700131
I sent them an email earlier.

I expect nothing.
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>>261700131
Email Nintendo and Phil Rogers (CEO of SE of America and Europe). That's really all we can do sadly.
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>>261700295
Never said you did. But if you're going to be twattering it then you might want to fix it.
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Anyone know SEoJ and america's address for fan letters/mail? I'd like to send them some real letters, apparently that had a good effect on one of the producers
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>>261700838
You mean that French guy. Yeah that was awesome. On my phone so I can't really search it. I wish I knew Japanese so I can write to SEoJ to say how much I would love to see the games released here.
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>>261701198
I have some friends that know Japanese so I could probably get my letter translated. It wouldnt be the best but it would be something
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>>261701417
Do it please. It it most likely have more of an impact on them than just a random email from a fan.
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Waiting for DQ.
Thats all I do.
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I noticed someone already posted the latest blog post where Yugi Horii was allowed to talk to the fans. And some of you shrugged it off like it was nothing. While it is insulting that all we are getting is iOS ports, you still need to respond on SquareEnix blog and twitter that you want the other games. Remember, the SE rep claimed they would localize Dragon Quest VII and X if 'there was enough of a demand from the fanbase.'

This is not the time to act cool by ignoring the people who keep ignoring the fans. Everyone needs to go on their blog and twitter and bomb the hell out of them with reqests for all the DQ games to be localized. This is the first time SE has actually aknowledged there may be DQ fans outside Japan. Show them there are.
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>>261704362
I've done what I can aside from a letter.

I'd like to email horii and other producers though, only public email I know bout is phil rogers
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>>261697734
speaking of kicking and screaming heres some people to kick and scream at
and a bunch of twitter accounts to tweet at
https://twitter.com/oprainfall
https://twitter.com/YujiHorii
https://twitter.com/SquareEnixUSA
https://twitter.com/SquareEnix
https://twitter.com/SQUARE_ENIX_EU
make noise on twitter
cause look :http://operationrainfall.com/2014/09/03/square-enix-cries-dragon-quest-vii/
they're paying attention
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>>261705039
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>>261700131
heres the CEO of NA/EU SE:philrogers@square-enix.com
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>>261658342
I really like the story, never read anything like it.
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>>261705039

>mfw DQVII comes out and sells even better than Bravely Default in the west
> SquareEnix claims 500,000+ sales was poor and it was a wasted effort
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>>261706462
as long as we get the game let them bitch ill keep screaming for more
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>>261660010
Get the fucking fire claw from upstairs before you go to his boss room
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>>261662723
I really liked making my own characters, felt pretty fresh compared to the mediocre characters elsewhere in the series stuck with one role.
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>>261705039
I don't even have a twitter account.
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Is the Thief in 3 supposed to be made of steel? Mine has 171 defense and 110 HP at level 17, I'm baffled.
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>>261707205
I think you can sign in with Facebook if you want and other wise its not hard to make one.
extra tweets aren't hard and every sing one helps
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>>261707205

Just make a trash account just to post for this. Its worth it to have one more vote against SquareEnix stupidity.
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>>261678465
I really like 6 and its the one I started with. Playing on patched English SNES rom
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>>261707205
Make one
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I hope enough people annoys SE enough that they finally agree. This only mobile shit is really pissing me off.
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>>261705039

Thanks Anon, I'll send all these accounts a tweet later.
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>>261707242
Mystical thief
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>>261664005
that's odd, in around 2011 I was wondering to get either DQIX or DQVI, I bought IX and emulate VI later on and I much prefer IX.
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>>261707832
the only SNES version i can recommend in goo faith over their remakes is III cause its a better version if the GBC port just without the unholy shitfuck that is the medal collection quest
maybe I & II as well
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>>261708370
same
though i might get IV mobile if only for the party chat
the lazy assholes who left it out of the DS port translation should have their shoes stolen
THE MAIN CRUX OF THE GAME WAS IS DIVERSE CAST AND YOU CUT 90% OF THE CHARACTER BUILDING!?
FFUCK THAT
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>>261708775
But you liked our puns and accents right!
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>>261708775
i didnt actually mind them
i mean theres puns aplenty in the Japanese versions and for VI at least the accents helped reinforce the "heroes from around the world" thing thats central to to the game
i didnt even mind it TOO much in V but some were just too much like Sancho who was damn near an ethnic slur
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>>261709110
NO I DON'T! It was a stupid idea than and it's still a stupid idea now. Not only that but they changed other things like character names and enemy names. For no reason but to fit their stupid jokes.
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>>261710015
whoops meant to link to >>261709110
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bg6uIbocPU

This is a thing
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>>261710058

Don't forget the head translstion producer is now claiming they may not bring over DQVII because of the 'cost of all the changes'. The idea we may not get the game because of their own translation issues is just...wow. its like a movie company not releasing a movie overseas because they insist half the scenes need to be redone for a new audience, even when the audience is pirating the original movie.
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>>261710948

God damnit Anon, that video was too good. It made me laugh and feel sad at the same time.
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>>261710948
it certainly is
like i get where it comes from and i appreciate the effort on their part
but im not sure if it sends the right message
"release the games or we'll attack you"?
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>>261711550
What's worse is that a shit ton of reviews said that while DQIV was great their one major gripe was the accents and things Plus Alpha added. So not only all the fans said to abandon Plus Alpha's localization but to just to a normal basic localization. One where it will take little work to actually do.

SO PLUS ALPHA IS STILL FUCKING US OVER EVEN AFTER THEY ARE LONG GONE!
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>>261712282
then tweet that too
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>>261712282

I honestly didn't mind the accent. It reminded me of my britbong friends. But if the accents get in the way localization, then they should just definitely get rid of them.
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>>261710948

Those were obviously joke subs and very funny. Howevr I don't like how they're putting the blame on Yugi Horii. He has been the biggest advocste for bringing DQ games to the west, going back to the first game on NES. No , the blame is clearly on SE execs like Noriyoshi Fujimoto.
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>>261712282
I like the accents.
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>>261713132
Do you like them enough to not get a game localized because of them?
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>>261712801
It already did. IV took out Party Chat because Plus Alpha didn't have time. They spent so much time think up a accents they couldn't do the Party Chat. Also accents in written form should be rare and have reasons. Hagid from Harry Potter is a nice example. His accents is meant to show his upbringing. Also it shows he's an important character since he talks differently than others. Having everyone have accents just makes reading everything a chore. And annoying trying to get through since there's a lot of annoying slang and some here really heavy so you couldn't just read it quickly like you should wish NPCs.
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>>261713412
If you don't want accents play the PS1 game.
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>>261710948
That video pissed me off a lot.
Horii has no say in localizations at all.
Fucking idiots.
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>>261713806

> if you don't want accents, only play Dragon Quest games before the SquareEnix merger

Excellent suggestion. Why not go with the clsssic 'just learn Japanese herp derp'.
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>>261714115
How does the SquareEnix merger prevent you from playing the game?
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>>261714367
Square only wants FF to succeed in the west
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>>261714367
Considering it's Square that's stopping us…
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>>261714458
>>261714496
Just emulate it then, you have no excuse.
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whos in charge of Classics getting on PSN
cause i could totally see someone trying to assuage fan complaints by putting PS1 DQVII on PSN like they did with the Persona 2EP port not coming over
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>>261714367

The accents in the west started with Dragon Quest VIII. The first DQ game brought over after the merger. And because of its success, they kept focusing on accents for future titles.
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>>261714496
>>261714458
Its like you faggots forgot the DQ famine of the early 90s.
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This is the best JRPG I played since Lunar 2, 8 years ago.

I remember crying while playing it. DQ 7 3DS is definitely my favorite dragon quest games and one of my favorite JRPGs.
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>>261714661
I know that but there's nothing stopping you from playing the PS1 version.
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>>261714651

Just emulate 3DS games and an MMO
> without translstions

just stop posting Square apologist.
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>>261714872
That picture isnt yours and you havent played DQ7 3DS you just want to make people sad.
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>>261714929
You're not making any sense, Dragon Warrior VII already got a western release on the PS1.
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>>261714651
>just emulate it
>emulate 3ds games
>emulate an mmo

Ok
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>>261714745
Enix of america died, not much we could do then.

My Dragon warrior VII book taunted me with the DQIV ps1 release for years
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>>261714876

I already played the PSX version years ago. I want to play the remake. And if they aren't going to do that because of their own translation practices, it is the biggest insult of all.

And if you still don't understand that DQVII on 3DS is a remske with tons of changes, you are an even bigger idiot than Square.
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>>261714661
The accents in VIII weren't fucking retarded like in IV though. luckily they werent as bad in V and VI.

>>261714876
PS1 version doesnt have the new shit
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>>261714872
Why is DQ VII always in English if they haven't localized it?
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>>261715321
Im talking about 5 and 6 on the SNES

Enix didnt localize them for the same reason SE isnt localizing now.
Low sales.
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>>261715207
The PS1 version.

>>261715346
And one of those changes includes accents.
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>>261715518
Go
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>>261715454
cause Japs love english text
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>>261715093
It's true though. Why would you be sad?
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>>261716071
Stop. Leave and dont come back to these threads.
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>>261716140
Why don't you leave instead?
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>>261716140
You're making me sad anon ;_;

Seriously though, DQVII is the game that made me thank heavens for learning Japanese.

And it's not even that hard to read to be perfectly honest, but I legitimately fell in love with the game in the first 10 minutes or so.
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>>261716480
And you are making me wanting to kill myself.
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>>261716480

At least you're not Honking Anon who posts his videos of DQX.
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>>261716632
...Why?

Can't you learn it? The whole game has furigana with kanji because of 3DS' extremely low resolution. Study grammar and you're good to go, you dont even need to memorize kanji, you just need a dictionary.
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>>261716738
There's a guy paying for DQX?

How's that going? I thought they didn't allow gaijins?
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>>261716938
Theres this thing called VPN
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>>261716834

99.9999% of people are not going to learn a whole new language just to play a game. And some of us are trying to allow for more people to play the games. If you know Japanese, you don't have an issue.
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>>261716480
Where did you start?
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>>261716834
i shouldn't have to learn another language and buy and import a game and system to enjoy a series i like and that a shit ton of other people like either
thats why we're all encouraging tweeting and commenting and signing and all this other shit
we shouldn't have to persuade a AAA company to release a title whose genre has had a big resurge, especially on the console it resurged on
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>>261717343
You know, I didn't learn Japanese to play one game, DQVII just happened to fall on my lap when I already knew it.

You'll end up using it for much more. We're talking about all future DQ games here, and the future of games in handhelds guaranteed, plus early games and whatnot.

>>261717541
I started with vocab, but if you just want to play dragon quest, just focus on grammar more. Learn what does what in a sentence. Since each kanji has furigana reading you can just pick up what they say and type it on a dictionary (you gotta know hiragana and katakana prior to do that)
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I hate fucking last gen and what seem to be the same this gen. PSX and PS2 era had a ton of fun localized games. But seem part way through the last gen it just stopped. Either shitty budget localization games or western games are all we got. And now it's still the case. Next year there's only 3 games we know for the 3DS next year. That is just fucking sad. SE can release VII and people will buy it just to play something.
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>>261717909
its was the homogenization of AAA companies. sales inflated and so so did companies expectations
titles can sell out printing and make huge numbers but if they don't make AAA numbers they aren't counted
the big thing is to buy and support what you like and, like we're doing, show support for stuff loudly and keep doing it so companies know
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>>261717909
Yeah thats why BD sold so much, the game is mediocre but JRPG fans are starved.
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>>261718609
imagine what a quality game like DQ VII would sell like
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>>261718598
Oh I know why. I'm just really passed off. They aren't looking for profits but numbers.

"Well we can sell 250,000 and make a nice profit of sell 6 million and hardly break even…6 million it is!"
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>>261718974

Only 200,000 copies. Because that's all SE prints.
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>>261718974
Depends if they bother marketing it or not.
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>>261719871
>SE
>Marketing DQ
Pick one.
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I have a boatload of fanart for a game I haven't even played. ;_;
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>>261719538
and you know the worst part?
SE is the only one we can really count on for this, despite other companies taking an interest in localizing this series they cant cause the licensing fee on the series is SUPER HIGH
the reason? so even though this series "doesn't do well" in the west because it ALWAYS sells in japan its considered AAA so they charge a AAA licensing fee! In all territories! HOW BS IS THAT?!
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>>261720997
Didn't Xseed want in on localizing it but SE said no?
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>>261719871
SE wouldn't but Nintendo would if they publish it
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http://www.famitsu.com/news/201409/05060693.html

run it through google
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>>261722228
what am i supposed to be getting from this?
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>>261721206
not sure but i wouldn't be surprised if it was money related
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>>261657068
DON'T TELL AMOS ABOUT HIS CONDITION
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>>261722518
Never ever
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>>261723046
care to elaborate?
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>>261722770
Could be. Xseed isn't that big. They normally do budget localization like Trails. Which is really good.
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>>261722228

> game looks like Dragon Quest XI fused with Star Wars Galaxies
> will never get it
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>>261723257
thats why they need region based localization fees
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>>261723530
>>261723046
wait what?
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>>261699694
Guy who created that here. Now I feel like a fool for not noticing those typos. Thanks for the heads up. Fixed it, so feel free to use it or whatever.

>>261699492
I uh...ran out of space and realized just as I was saving that I forgot to include Rocket Slime.
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Will the 3DS version of the DQXI also be IP blocked? I wonder if it's also P2P?
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>>261724029
No keep it like that. I feel it works well with Rocket Slime. And with what was written on Siliconera they feel they can try Rocket Slime over here which is awesome.
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>>261724240
Of course.
The 3DS version just streams the game.
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>>261724240
XI is gonna be a console game
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>>261724240
XI is going to be single player. And no one really knows anything about it outside that.
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>>261723790
>>261724850
>>261724913


Americans cant into Roman numbers.
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>>261725094
He asked about XI. X is the MMO.
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>>261724737
Yeah, I kept it. And the fact that they're acknowledging the fact that they know fans are vocal is great, as well as why I included why it's understandable why localizing DQX would be a much more daunting task than the 3DS ports and Rocket Slime.

Though, really, this should have been obvious when sales for Dragon Quest IX and Bravely Default in the west were apparent and how no one knew about DQIV or VIII were even coming to the west on mobile devices. SE is just really, really bad about marketing the series and pretty much set it up for failure.
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>>261725094
Yuropoor go back to bed
X=10
XI=11
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>>261724790
as much as people rag on that i still think thats super nifty
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I made Jessica in Dark Souls 2
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>>261725482
Yeah thanks for putting that in. Marketing helps a lot. They are too hush hush on the series which doesn't help. Your image is great and I tweeted it out with others.
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>>261726572
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>>261726572
>>261726913
Are there whips in Dark Souls?
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>>261726913
>>261726572
but can you Puff Puff?
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>>261727326
plenty
You can even get the best whip in the game early on if you give crows a petrified something
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Is VI legitimately bad or is it just not up to the standard of the other games? What are its problems?

It's the only DQ I haven't beaten besides VII and X, and I want something to give me my Dragon Quest fix while I'm waiting for them to be localized.

If VII is as long as people claim it is I don't want to burn myself out on it so that I never want to play the remake.
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>>261727720
It's not a bad game at all. Certainly better than IX.
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>>261683968
Shitty defense for a front row fighter and unable to equip good gear.
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>>261726587
I'm actually surprised by how many people have gone ahead and retweeted it/passed it around. Though that's also mostly because, as someone mentioned earlier, Michael Cunnigham from RPGamer retweeted the image and caused others to take notice.

Honestly, it's ridiculous how SE just doesn't get how hype works. If you don't market something, obviously no one's gonna know about it and it'll sell poorly. Dragon Quest IV and V did poorly here compared to DQIX because they expected the first two to not do well and only did print ads, while Nintendo pushed IX with TV ads, store fliers and web ads.

Bravely Default, as well, did well because it had TV marketing involved. Had it not been for that, I'm pretty sure the game would've fallen completely off the radar.
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>>261727902
Well I sort of enjoyed IX so that's a good thing.
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>>261727720

VI is fine... it just isn't that memorable.

The best DQs are 3, 5, and 8.
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>>261727720
It's just that people compare it to the 3 previous games (3-5) which are some of the best JRPG ever made. And 6 is just good but not great.
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>>261728070
IX was fun for what it was and I'd like to think its local multiplayer stuff is what prompted Nintendo's additions to the 3DS with Streetpass and what not. Just a shame that it came sooner than the 3DS, as DQIX really could've benefited from StreetPass (aside from online play).
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>>261728034
You did a wonderful thing. I hope more big names tweet it to draw more attention. Hell if SE release it and keep up notice DQ could easily do well like ND did.
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>>261658342
expect a whole lot of grindan to raise up them jobs if you dont know which ones to level up.
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play DQ 5 on the DS, 7 on the PS1 and 8 on PS2

they are great and the best in the series
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>>261728420
The only thing is that if they do end up localizing any of them, we gotta hope everyone who's begging SE to release the games actually go and buy them. Lord knows we don't need a repeat of Golden Sun DS or Sin & Punishment: Star Successor, where people were on board for sequels and asked Nintendo to do it, only to then not buy them when they actually delivered.

Hoping people put their money where their mouths are if it happens.
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>>261728580
>5/8 fags
>5/8 fags everywhere
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>>261729035
Fuck off, they're great.
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>>261728070
The main problem with it is that DQVI's hook - the reworked job system mixed with monster catching - comes in fairly late and has a very annoying progression system that punishes you for playing reasonably. You raise your job's level by participating in fights that are considered a challenge for you - except that's defined by the area, and the level caps for those are strict to the point where someone playing the game normally will ram up against them very early.
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>>261727720
there are no in my opinion bad Dragon Quest games
just ones that are better than others
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>>261729093
V is mid tier and VIII is low tier.
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>>261729772
Your opinion is shit-tier
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>>261729227
>You raise your job's level by participating in fights that are considered a challenge for you - except that's defined by the area, and the level caps for those are strict to the point where someone playing the game normally will ram up against them very early.
I don't get it.

Are you saying that you get punished for grinding? Or that once you hit a certain level cap, you'll fight increasingly harder enemies?
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>>261727957
Just wear cameo gear. It's only slightly worse than the best gear in the game and takes no grind
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>>261728885
I feel as long as people keep up the hype and people wanting a JRPG which there is lacking it.
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>>261729772
I'm fine with your opinion, but what would you say are high tier DQ games?
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Never played Draogn's Quest. What's the best one I can emulate?
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>>261730060
III, IV, and VII.
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>>261730086
All
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>>261730086
All of them can be. Just be sure that if you do emulate the first three, avoid the NES versions. They have not aged well and have ports on the SNES and GBC that both fix these problems and speed up the gameplay.

>>261730021
Yeah, I've noticed that 3DS is pretty low on JRPGs, especially if you factor in what's available in the west. I'm honestly surprised I have more on my Vita than I do on my 3DS.
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>>261729976
>Are you saying that you get punished for grinding
Yes, although it extends to normal play because the area caps are too low. This is why it's a problem.
>Or that once you hit a certain level cap, you'll fight increasingly harder enemies?
No. You don't get credit for those fights so your job can't go up in level.
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>>261729093
Not saying they arent.
But they are massively overrated in the west
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>>261729976
If you actually grind, yes its punishing in that you wont be able to level up your jobs. If you just play normally though you won't have that problem.

You level up super fucking slowly in VII because they expected you to fight a ton. Also some areas don't have a cap on whether they count for job exp or not. Especially right outside of Dharma
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>>261658316
>/V/
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>>261731271
>replying to a post from 10 hours ago
>And not even a worthy reply, just a shitpost
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We should be expecting Dragon Quest to pop up on iOS and the Play Store this month.

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/08/30/dragon-quest-coming-september-new-localization/
>"This is new information that hasn’t been pushed out much, but we are going to be releasing (in order) from Dragon Quest I, starting sometime in September, and then we’ll be releasing subsequent games like Dragon Quest II and Dragon Quest III every month, maybe every two months," said Noriyoshi Fujimoto, producer of the Dragon Quest mobile series, in an interview with Siliconera. "In terms of pricing, it’s still yet to be determined – but because these are classic games, the cost will probably be lower than Dragon Quest VIII and Dragon Quest IV which are currently out."

>This is new information that hasn’t been pushed out much
What really bugs me is that this is coming from the producer. It's supposed to be his job to make sure people know this is coming out in the first place. You're not supposed to just drop the games onto the digital stores and expect people to know without telling anyone. Hell, people only discovered DQVIII was localized because of it popping up on New Zealand's online stores and DQIV after people noticed SE listed it on the App Store as "Dargon Quest IV."
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>>261732017
He just really fucking horrible that all of this. We the fans does a better job marketing DQ.
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>>261732391
Please learn English before posting again.
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>>261730204
Contrarian hipster.
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So, on the topic of online DQ, will X be paid online the 3DS, and is it ip restricted?
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>>261732391
Hell, Nintendo does a better job of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcL14iF6QAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVw14hLTAY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLREZtP094w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q31ANqDbvqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvJ6yS9zj1Y
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>>261734176
Yes and yes
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>>261730757
VIII was an entry point for a lot of people
its an FFVII situation, its a great game but it can be over hyped due to the fact that its a lor of peoples first and therefore fondest
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>>261735058
I believe that only happens if you are still under 20, I no longer think that the old games from my youth are the best ever and I can see beyond graphics or presentation when judging a game.

/v/ being /v/ I suppose, cant ask for more.
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>>261735776
Nostalgia is a powerful thing. Personally I feel 4 is the best mostly because I think I spent so much time on it on my NES back when I was young.
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>>261735776
The average gamer believes graphics > all in current times
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>>261736145
4 is one of my favorites if not my favorite in the series.
Because of the characters, really like all of them, good and bad guys.
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>>261736620
>in current times
It was the same in the past too.
>muh blast processing!
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>>261661502
How could you hate on Nevan? He was adorable and just wants to make his village proud. Slime Knight on the other hand was totally forgettable.
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>>261735776
to be fair VIII a GREAT game
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>never played VIII
>decide to go download ISO
>it's 2.6GB
>remember it's a PS2 title
>live in the boonies on 56k
damnit
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>>261737484
>2014
>56k

Anon plz
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>>261737616
US internet providers are the worst.
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>>261737616
believe it or not, there are still many places where good internet is unavailable.
the canadian wilds is one of them
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>>261737484
id play it legit or emulated if you can, the PS2 version has orchestrated music and voice overs and a few other extras.
the mobile port has non of that
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>>261737854
I prefer the japanese version because of the magic sound effect alone.
The voices are bad and the orchestrated music only made the game extremely slow
Not to mention that atrocious menu.
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How are the Dragon Quest games?

How do they compare to, say, SMT or Final Fantasy?
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>>261738124
Forgot my pic
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>>261737956
i respect you opinion, but emphatically disagree
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>>261738124
Terrible, thats why we just had a 400 post long thread about them.

But seriuosly dude

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Quest
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>>261738124
More world exploring, more grindy, less or more basic story telling and less "edgy", the "Island of Dreams" quest in VI made me smile despite being really cheesy and DQ games are filled with moments like that, think Disney-tiered lessons. If you like to get comfy by the fireplace with a game or loose yourself during those boring bus/train rides it's the best.
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>>261737956
I do wish they didn't fuck with it too much. While I liked the voice work I would have enjoyed the normal music if it meant the game didn't slow the fuck down at times. As for the menu I felt the older version had it charm.
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>>261738124
>>261738220
different, i mean the basic JRPG set up is there, but the systems tend to be very different.
"classic" is a good word for them i feel, not as grindy or intensive as the average SMT but more freeform than FF
thers a bigger emphasis on interaction with NPCs than FF and most travel involves being vaguely pointed to the next destination and then being given the reins, so there a decent sense of exploration.
its hard to quantify exactly, but like each game feel very much like a Dragon Quest, while at the same ime feeling unique.
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>>261738771
Aw that sounds great. Which do you recommend starting with?

There seems to be some conflicting reports in this thread.
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>>261738771
Basically this. DQ is like a fun charming fairy tale game. Full of cliche tropes (some itself in wanted actually) but it presents it in a weird way to make it believable. It never tries to slow the game down with melodrama or other things that other JRPG seem to love to do. It's just one fun wonderful adventure that makes you want to play to know how everything comes to an end.
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>>261738778
>at times

The whole game runs slower than the JP version specially in battles where there is visible delay before a spell or skill is used, that stuff really adds up.

>charm
Its not so much the charm (which its there) but the functionality, the menu in the western versions is way slower and less intuitive.

And the removal of the magic sound effect is s crime, thats my favorite DQ sound effect.
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>>261737956
The only bad thing was the menu in the US release.
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>>261739412
So you are okay with a much slower version of the game?
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>>261738961
Because there really isn't a good place to start. Because it plays out so differently that you love them all in a different way. 1 and 2 are a bit too archaic in my opinion. 1 is about 90% grinding (more if you know where to go) and 2 is just annoying in a lot of ways. But 3 onward is a blast. Every one feels grand and wonderful.
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>>261739457
Music doesn't make a game slow. A game being slow makes it slow
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>>261739508
Awesome, that sounds great. Thanks for the help.
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>>261739135
i cant hate it cause that orchestrated music was goddamn sex to my ears
and over all the little problems didnt add up enough to recommend the IOS version to someone
especially since ive heard that it too has frame rate problems and stuff like that
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>>261738961
4. New enough to be a solid experience, old enough to let you enjoy the job and skill systems in other games.

Then 1 and 3 after 4 then whatever
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>>261739510
It was cited that it was the inclusion of the music what made the US version slower.

>>261739567
Oh I dont hate it, and the IOs version is total shit man Im talking about the JP ps2 version here
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>>261738961
VIII is a more traditional JRPG whilst maintaining that DQ charm, so that's a good entry point. IV-VI has the NDS ports and all try to mix the franchise stable a bit with a few new elements (IV with it's episodic format, V with the family concept and waifu stuff and VI with the two worlds). I-III might be a hard sell because they are a wee bit out dated, despite the GB/SNES version, you've probably heard stories about VII It's really long and without a guide you will take forever to finish the first CD alone and you kinda missed the boat with DQIX because of the DS online shutdown and it's more of an offline MMO than the other entries. Nonetheless I recommend playing these entries at some point if you enjoyed the others.
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>>261739612
While I agree that 4 is a great starting game I have to say play the NES version. Because those localizers are the worse people on the planet. At no point did they seem to understand what was so great about the series. Plus people looked at both localization and found the NES to be a closer representation to the Japanese version than Plus Alpha's version.
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>>261739712
I'm looking at JP game video and it's exactly the same delay between skills as in the english version.
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what if we get an eceleb to pimp DQ and the begging campaign
how easy are the 2BF or JonTron?
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>>261739782
>offline MMO

Why do people keep saying this? The multiplayer aspect was 100% optional and it makes it sound like the battle system has changed or something.
What a misleading term to use to describe 9
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>>261740062
Ask Markiplier. Earthbound is one of his favorite games and it's basically DQ set in the 90s
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>>261740062
Well JonTron just did that "Did you know" about Dragon Quest. So we might can get him on board.
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>>261740098
Because they somehow think it applies because it has multiplayer
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>>261740009
You are blind then.
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>>261740098
It has a lot to do with the huge number of sidequests.
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>>261740223
>character casts spell or psyches up
>camera stays on them for a second before doing the next action

Its the same in both versions anon
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>>261740132
>>261740168
yeah not to abuse the "Blind masses" trope but like i fell if even one of these dudes can mention it it'd be a HUGE boost
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>>261740325
Maybe we should point SE to this video, 392,030 views in 4 days is a very respectful number:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvCVAp2jE1E
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>>261740538
i guess, i mean it is already part of a popular series and its just trivia as opposed to a plea or something
Liam was in a thread earlier, but he left before i could ask
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>>261740325
I don't know how well he responds to fans but maybe someone can message him and ask him if he can he our cause. Maybe link the image someone here made and also link his video to show his love of the series.
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Is DQ IV worth gettin on IOS? Is it just the DS version
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>>261740896
DS version - PS1 version with new chapter, missing party chat
ios version - has party chat, shitty ost and loading issues from what i hear

Depends on how much you want the party chat
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>>261740896
Isn't actually better than the DS version because of one thing. Party Chat. Some strange reason they actually included it in the iOS version. Still a poor localization in my eyes but still a great game.
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>>261741212
It's actually*
Sorry edit.
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>>261657068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_TlZFCabiM
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Good DQ thread guys, see you on the next one.
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>>261742091
I want to fuck the slimes especially Jewel King Slime.
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>>261743205
Good luck catching those metal slime fuckers.
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DQ VI is a pretty OK DQ game. It's easy enough in the beginning but it gets pretty challenging around late game
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so about the dragon quest 7 remake
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>people are excited for musou games
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>>261746891
Musou is fanservice
Im a DQ fan
You bet Im excited
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>>261658116
What would you recommend as a first DQ game?
3?
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>>261747019
I just want actual dragon quest games
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>>261746745
Rev up them twitts, sign them petitions and email Steve Rodgers (SEA and SEE CEO), mail is on the bottom:
http://na.square-enix.com/us/blog/note-phil-rogers-ceo
Make some noise anon and hope they don't release that Musou DQ game instead of the titles we asked for just to mock us, like Bamco did with Rumble 3.
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