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this game ruined RPGs for me. No matter what I play, whether

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this game ruined RPGs for me. No matter what I play, whether some generic SquareEnix title, or a generic western rpg, nothing compares to the experience I had with Nocturne. Everything else seems so shallow. Not to mention the stylized graphics blow away even the "best" AAA titles today

Recommend me something that will restore my interest in rpgs that is not Shin Megami Tensei or Persona
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Breath of fire, and dragonquest

also check xenogears.
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>>261268582
isn't breath of fire a little too generic?
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>>261269283
some will say it's a "classic"

most notably 3 and 4

If you do get around to playing it, play 4 first and then 3, they arent related story wise.
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One thing I love about Nocturne (and DDS) is how FAST the random battles are. Even if you manually cast a bunch of spells and buffs.

Every character just does their thing super fast and it's your next turn again.
I especially miss this during Pokemon horde battles. Every goddamn move takes forever.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y2MI7uMr6k
There is not a single battle theme in any game that evern comes close. Prove me wrong.
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>>261268235

How about some actually good writing?
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OP did you try DDS?
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>>261270670

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu1LCUJMnF0
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>>261268235
Why is it that seemingly no other JRPG can make the random encounters actually fun and not annoying as shit?
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>>261269689
I've played 1, 2 & 3 so far. haven't played 4. Though i have to say BoF games seem hit or miss for me. They have some interesting elements but tend to drag and become realy tedious with unfocused plotlines
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Vagrant Story
>some learning curve
>lonely adventure through an abandoned town
>well presented story, well written dialog, camera work
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>>261272941
this, kind of mad I played ff8 and ff9 so much as kid and never got into this until much later.
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>>261268235
>Nocturne
Niggah did you even play SMT 1 and 2?
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>>261274507
Yes, both of them, I finished 1 but not 2. They're good but I think 3 is a more refined and overall better experience. But I wish it had the cyberpunk elements like the previous games
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>>261274507
>I enjoy dating sims

That's cool, I guess.
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>>261276305
>SMT 1 & 2
>Dating sims
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Dragon Quest V is better than Nocturne

Strange Journey, SMT 1 and 2 are better than Nocturne
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>>261276442
I think you meant persona 1 and 2 there. None of the core SMT games have any dating aspects to my knowledge.
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>>261274507
They're hilariously broken. 1 at least.
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>>261268235
I really like Xenoblade Chronicles. the combat is kinda shit but the story, music, and world all make up for it.

combat is just very slow at the beginning. towards the end when you can string more attacks together, use more Monado arts, and use chain attacks more often it's way more fun.

make sure you emulate it with the HD texture pack though.
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>>261268235
Xenoblade Chronicles is pretty good. Other than that, I dunno.
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>>261276651
Persona 1 and 2 aren't dating sims either.
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Fire emblem 7 ruined awakening because its to easy and brain dead by comparison

>>261277357
I'm sure I got into a relation ship in P2
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Suikoden series is my fave
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Can anyone givs me advice for emulating? Pc is a toaster btw
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>>261271657
Are you pulling my leg here, friend? I hope you are.
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Persona always seemed like really boring to me, but i might give one a try. Is the 3ds one any good?
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>>261278760
Post you specs.
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Dragon Quest Monster games if you loved demon fusion.
I've only played the two Joker games (2>1, but play the first anyway and play it first) but I've heard great things about the gbc games (which got DS remakes but weren't released in the west because HAHA fuck the west ;_;)

Assuming you've played SJ then look into the EO series. Hardcore dungeon crawlan.
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>>261269959
it gets even faster when you use the speed up function the emulator have,even grinding feels like blast,similar to the disgaea series
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>>261276736
There was something very satisfying about stunlocking the god of thunder with thunder spells.
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>>261279317
2 got fucked over as well, Professional is still nip only.
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>>261277043
I can feel myself getting more british for every second I play it
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>>261277459
That doesn't mean it's a dating sim. Just because there are puzzles in God of War that doesn't make it a puzzle game.
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>>261277043
>make sure you emulate it with the HD texture pack though.
Does it fix the faces? Currently emulating it and the only thing that really bothers me are the faces, they look hideous
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>>261279567
Wasn't there a partial (because SE doesn't like westerners translating their games) translation patch out for professional?
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There's a certain snappiness to combat.
Especially the bitch-slap that DemiFiend does when you select regular attack, it has a good SFX and everything.
On top of that the enemies can bribe you, join you whether you want them or not, give you a gift for proving your strength, etc.

The Press Turn system is really goddamn good.
I'm playing Strange Journey right now and while I love the first person dungeon crawling and better negotiations, the alignments being required for weakness-exploitation is kinda lame.

Also I like the music but Nocturne's and what I've heard of IV's completely blow it out of the water.
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>>261270670

I fucking love the theme now, I'll admit, but when I first heard it I was a little thrown by the dogbarking lyrics.
Grows on you.
Game had some great music though.
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>>261268235

What? This game is shallow as fuck, the only thing that has going for it is the 3d model.
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>>261280815
do explain why it's shallow
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>>261270670
How about a better battle theme
from
the
same
game?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GJ1d2X4ZFw
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>>261278760

even with my integrated graphics toaster i was able to emulate nocturne at 60 fps
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>>261281048
>not If...'s remixed battle theme from Akira's route
Get fucked scrub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-NbsUNCnck
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>>261280628
I can't help but hear "this place is for hookers" somewhere around 0:40.
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>>261269959
>One thing I love about Nocturne (and DDS) is how FAST the random battles are. Even if you manually cast a bunch of spells and buffs.
You've got to be kidding me. Nocturne is awfully slow. SMT1 and 2 are fast as fuck, but they have random encounters up the ass to compensate.
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Play Strange Journey. Also, try out Soul Nomad.
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>>261281749
>SMT1 and 2 are fast as fuck
You've got to be kidding me. I and II are awfully slow. Soul Hackers is fast as fuck, but is has random encounters up the ass to compensate.
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>>261281048
This is fucking beautiful.
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>>261281749
he played it on an emulator,the animations are simply too slow
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Etrian Odyssey
The Dark Spire
Shiren the Wanderer
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>>261282017
Dark Spire is way too hardcore for Nocturne babbies
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQuEwWJHYM4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qARF-r3M4FM

Nocturne had an amazing soundtrack
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>>261270670
>>261271657
Don't make me choose here.
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It takes an amazing amount of idiocy to actually like a game where every single fucking game mechanic relies on luck.

SMT fans seriously have to be the dumbest fuckers around. Try playing a game that isn't 99% RNG.
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>>261268235
best /v/ playthrough
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>>261268235
Do your own research, idiot. There's more to RPGs than "generic SquareEnix title, or a generic western rpg"
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>>261282643
B8
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smt games are the only JRPGs I play so I can only rec crpgs; Fallout 1\2 are fantastic rpgs.
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>>261268582
Agreed. Check out Xenogears, OP.
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Is this the one featuring DANTE FROM THE DMC SERIES?
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>>261283107
nah, thats persona 4
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>>261270670
https://soundcloud.com/thegameexplorer/shin-megami-tensei-iii-nocturne-normal-battle-town-medley
It's better in every way.
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>>261268235

>no compendium - have to note demons's location and grind them
>then grind them to level
>then know specifically which demons fuse with others to produce the desired result
>then use clunky GUI to get the spells you want
>almost the same for MC's personalization - magatamas
>pic related
>requires maximum level hindsight to be playable.

Could be fun, if you know your way around after replaying 2-3 times.
Guides don't count because they are cancer and no game should require them, and fags use that crap should kill themselves.
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>>261269283

Play Dragon Quarter. It's very divisive, but the one thing it isn't is generic.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKZq9xrY0XQ

This is my favorite battle theme ever. Even if the first 20 seconds aren't very good.
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>>261283316

Forgot pic.
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>>261283224
>Medley
Oh shit its fucking REAL
All the versions.

Also full version of the other Battle themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gpMqNtHRvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gpMqNtHRvk
It's a shame the ingame music quality sucks.
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>>261283107
Yes. You can recruit him, but he doesn't do much in the long run. You can still beat Lucy without him.
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>>261268235
>Everything else seems so shallow
then stop playing shallow games
How about some actually good writing?
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>>261281945
dude.
I just finished my third playtrough of SMT 1 (got all the endings) and i just started playing soul hackers.
1) the fights are fast in both titles.
2) i fucking WISH soul hackers had more random encounters so i wouldn't be out of magnetite every single time.
3) Also no game has a random encounter rate worse than SMT 1. Really it's horrifying.
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>>261282656

Stop reminding me that I still need to do a /v/ playthrough of SMT2 anon, I want to forget and rid my backlog first.
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I just downloaded the translated MT 1-2 remake thing
How should I build my party?
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>>261283773
Just rip them from the japanese version. They fucked up the audio of the US release.
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>>261281048
>tfw punching floating skulls to the sound of this
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>>261283316
>>no compendium - have to note demons's location and grind them

you get a compendium after first fiend fight
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>>261280273
>The Press Turn system is really goddam good
Let's see...compared to the old system:
>removed 2 character slots because being able to move 12 times would make the system even more broken
>removed the extra human character the player had because always having a character with no weakness would also mess up the balance
>made the MC work pretty much in the same way as a demon because the removed character slots
>made every boss with a weakness a joke
>it also forced every boss to have a retarded AI that keeps hitting the resistances
All that for the ability to do free extra damage. It isn't good at all, anon.
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>>261283595
>having trouble with the absolute definition of casual filter
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>guess the weakness
>not shallow
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>>261283595
>no compendium - have to note demons's location and grind them
Why would you do that though?You should only be recruiting the demons in your area,there's no reason to go to other areas to recruit them unless you want max compendium
>then grind them to level
Levels mean shit unless you're trying to fight the secret final boss
>then know specifically which demons fuse with others to produce the desired result
you should fuse a demon with another to get a higher level one,it isn't hard,if you want a specific demon then well it's your problem
>then use clunky GUI to get the spells you want
I'll admit that having to reset to get desired stuff is a flaw
>almost the same for MC's personalization - magatamas
You get lots of magatamas just in the main story,not to mention you can buy lots of them in shops.
>pic related
Matador isn't hard
>requires maximum level hindsight to be playable.
It doesn't,you just have autism
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>>261284560
>They fucked up the audio of the US release.
How so?
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>>261284480
nerve bullets
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>No one mentioning DDS's soundtrack
Now THERE'S some good battle themes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o08Ir0Mf_qg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKJo4uC9o_o
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>>261285416
>MT 1-2
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>>261270670
This one does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56RmwwKxPzE
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>>261285605
This was one of the first games I saw reviewed on X-Play when I got cable again. It's a shame I can't find the episode...
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>>261285605
>Shoji Meguro shit
>good
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>>261282656

Got a link to it or something like that?
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That's the greatest Megami Tensei music right here
it's not from the Shin series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd3zX-acIoo
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>>261287137
Can't find it in the archive as I don't recall the title

Sorry anon
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Man, I want to play Nocturne, it sounds badass.

Only problem is, I don't have a PS2 or a computer capable of running games.
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>>261287757

I-I'm just a cancerous P3/4 faggot but what's the difference between Megami Tensei and SMT? Do they share similar themes and gameplay styles still?
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>>261268235
Check out xenogears, friendo
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Valkyrie Profile Silmeria maybe?

I just started replaying it recently and I'm still kind of amazed how good it looks for a PS2 game.

Its downright frustrating in certain aspects though, seeing as you played nocturne I think you will be fine.
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OP nocturne is my second favorite JRPG next to xenoblade

try it out
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>>261268235
>nothing compares to the experience
>SMT Nocturne
Let me guess, you consider action RPGs like Dark Souls to be real RPGs, right?
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>>261289505
oh please anon enlighten us to your superior taste
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>>261288889
They're similar in many aspects, like demon negotiating/recruiting, 1st person dungeon crawling (but no press turn system or allignments) and has some similar ideas with demonic imagery and was of Satan against God, though obviously later installments everything is more expanded and refined. The first Mergami Tensei is actually a little simplistic (and archaic) both in gameplay and especially narrative by today's standards but quite unique for its time. The second one intorduced more post apocalyptic elements and stuff that were later better explored in the Shin games.
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>>261291419
>I meant war of Satan*
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>>261289181
British people being loud the game
Played a bit at game when they had a wii out it was ok but I think i would need to own it for a better opinion
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>>261292765
I forgot to add at GAME
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>>261284560
Yeah tell me
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