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The Painted World is the only level that comes close to any of the levels from Demon's Souls, and that's only because it was made first when they had money.
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Okay.
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>>261218576
Thanks for listening.
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Eat a dick
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>>261218468
I just wish there were more places like this and Ash Lake (not even near as playable, but with tons of effort in design and thought put into it) that just makes you stop a wonder for a while.

I was really expecting something close to it in DaS 2, only to be utterly dissapointed.
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That makes zero sense as Demon's was made with a shoestring budget.
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>>261218468
Painted world is one of the easiest areas though.
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>>261221313
Demon's is for casuals, after all.
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TOP TIER
Undead Burg/Parish
Darkroot Garden/Forest

HIGH TIER
Anor Londo
Dukes Archives
Catacombs
Depths

OKAY TIER
New Londo
Blightown
Tomb of the Giants
Painted World

BAD TIER
Demon's Ruins
Lost Izalith
Crystal Cave
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>>261223064
New Londo is my absolute favorite.

I really like Blightown too. Yeah, it has serious fps issues at times but it also gives you this feeling that it's not only the enemies that wanna kill, it really is the world that wants to kill you. Very few levels ever achieved that

Demon's and izalith are clearly rushed
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>>261218468
Bullshit, im half way through Demons souls and so far pretty much every level has been bland and boring looking apart from tower of latria and the first part of shrine of storms, nearly every part of Dark Souls was more interesting than Demons Souls
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>>261218468
Quite the contrary, they made the painted world last or close to the end to shove all the shit in that wouldn´t fit into the main course of the game.
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>>261223064
sens fortress dickhead. where is it.
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>this land is peaceful, its inhabitants kind
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>>261225464
This is wrong, painted was indeed the first area made.

From what we have seen, Nito was to be the area boss in the earliest builds.
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Anor Londo = Sens > Painted World
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>>261223064
>crystal cave in bad tier
>sen's not even listed
Did you even invade people? I doubt it.
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>>261226596
I don't get the joke?

Is that a meme?
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>>261226701
l2google
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>>261226701
It's better that you don't. You must be younger than 25
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>>261226743
not him but dude don't do that, he'll get in grouble
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>a dark souls thread moving this slowly.

This doesn't feel right

what class do you like best?

Thief reporting in
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>>261226701
yeah dude it's a funny meme, go look up some vids online, fucking best memes there is.
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>>261226838
>Caring
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>>261226596

oh haha, why is ray gold.

Oh god... I remember now.

Kazaa... 2001....

ohhhh goddddddd
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>>261226929
just tell him dued
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>>261226951
"Hey that name looks funny, kinda like leetspeak. Let's see what kind of videos he makes."
"OH FUCK NO"
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>>261226853
cleric all day every day

i just love sunbro'ing, performing miracles, wielding blunt weapons, etc
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>>261227214
>>261226951
TELL ME THE MEME

PLEASE I NEEED TO KNOW THE MEME TO SHARE WITH MI HOMBRES PLS
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>>261218468

Really? Well thanks for talking me out of my plans to buy Demon's Souls. That place was the worst level in the game.
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>>261227380

just google it, its not that bad. Go into incognito mode if you are that worried.
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>Anor Londo
>good

after the initial "whoa" you realize that the zone is pretty much a corridor.
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>>261226853
Do classes even matter in Souls games? I've played Demon's Souls and Dark Souls as a Knight. Starting equipment is pretty good I'd say.
Still playing through Dark Souls, around Sen's Fortress.
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>>261227446
No problem, Demon's Souls is a really average game with one good level, Latria.
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>>261218468
I want to put it in Priscilla's butt.
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>>261227508
THIS
everyone goes on about how awesome it is but its pretty much a straight line, one path off to the painted world building, then a bit of fucking around in the castle thing
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>>261218468
Fun fact: The Painted World is a leftover level from DeS, the Albino Dragon girl that's serves as the area's optional final boss was supposed to be the Maiden in Black of DaS.
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>>261227456
no tell me the meme ok? i am mexican i dunno get what the mem is tell me pls.
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>>261227508
>>261227749
oh. i know why you guys are this mad about anor londo.
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>The Painted World is the only level that comes close to any of the levels from Demon's Souls
Nigga, Blightown is basically Valley of Defilement 2.0 minus the retarded bird-people and the ambush-squads got replaced with "le poison yagua blowmen".
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>>261227568
>Latria
Only the first area was good. Best overall was Boletaria no doubt.
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>>261227869
Thats the other thing i dont understand, i just held my shield up and killed the first one, then ran over to the second one. i never got knocked off the edge once. i was full strength and heavy armor though, i dont know if that helps or anything
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>>261221313
>those infection motherfuckers
>wheel skeletons at the bottom
It wasn't that easy, certainly not one of the easiest zones.
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>>261218468

how do i priscilla's tail
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>>261228079
that's hogwash. I liked the second area of Latria as much as the first. However, Boletaria is probably the best, I'll give you that
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>>261228118
theres a really easy trick for the archers you know, you just have to run up quickly to the middle where you are covered and then ________________git gud________________
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>>261228118
poise matters so much.

Anor Londo a best
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>>261225617
fixed this
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>>261218468
After all, Dark Souls was causla rip off of Demon's Souls.
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Post a place better than the Dukes Archives.
Protip: You can't.
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>>261228740
Latria better than all location in Casuals Souls and B-teeam Souls.
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>>261228740
Tower of Latria

ownt
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>>261228740

that entire area was fucking awful

hurr WHOAREYOU dancing faggots that spam spells from perches you cant reach so epic XDDDD

Sens Fortress was the best section in the whole game.
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>>261228601
hey thanks anon. i like it
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>>261228740
Best part about Duke's was invading, turning the jukebox back on and black crystaling out.
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>>261228740
>Post a place better than the Dukes Archives.

How is Dukes even one of your favourite places?

Darkroot, The Great Hollow, Ash Lake obvi, Sens, AL, Tomb, Kiln, Royal Woods, Townshit, and the Chasm were all better than Dukes imo
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>>261228740
Duke's Archive blows fucking chunks
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Tower of Latria is the best Souls level/world:
>Cool enemy designs like the mindflayer, prisoner horde and man centipede
>Great level design
>Varied scenery with a dank prison, looming swamp and a tower high up in the sky
>2 of the best bosses; Maneater and Old Monk
>Best atmosphere found in a souls game
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Demon's Souls has:

- actually well designed, finished areas
- weapon paths which aren't utterly useless
- NPCs which names you actually remember and cordially care about
- unforgettable bossfights with soulful music
- endings which wrap up the experience satisfyingly

Dark Souls has:
- Covenants
- Uh, poise?
- Praise the sun guy

Dark Souls 2 has:
- Gender change
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>>261219928
I think he meant that they made it when they had all the time in the world
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>>261228740
there are so many better places than Dukes'

It only realy looks cool
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>>261229079
Because bookshelves and atmosphere.
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>>261223064
>mfw 'Invading world as dark spirit' in New Londo
>nobody ever invades there
>host freaks out
>win 100% of the time
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you insert coins into miyazaki's asshole and then comes out a level
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>>261229153
0/10

Try to sound less biased next time
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>>261229153
>- unforgettable bossfights with soulful music
leechmonger intesifies
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>>261223064
>crystal cave
>bad-tier
Fucking kill yourself, you horrendous pleb.
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>>261229153
Dark Souls 2 has viable Caestus which, while not redeeming the rest of the game, is an addition I'm happy with.
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>>261226853
>glorious knight master race. first thing you do is grab that master key and rape havel sso you can mid roll
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>>261229240
Most times I tried that the hosts had two twinked phantoms with them.
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>>261228740
Lighting in that place was awful.
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>>261227456
Holy shit the guy was part of a pediatric charity?
Holy fucking shit
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>there are people who cut priscillas tail
>there are people who killed priscilla
why would you ever do this
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>>261218468
I'd play a Souls game that was nothing but a bunch of disconnected levels like the Painted World, each boss gets their own level. I never really gave a shit about the tacked on RPG stat mechanics.
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>>261229741
wanted it for my life hunt scythe build
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>>261229741

Because achievements.
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>>261229741
Why wouldn't you? The bitch is piss-easy and you get a trophy out of it
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>>261228601
why do people like ash lake. there's nothing there other than some shitty dragon covenant
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>>261229741
nigga did u even use the lifehunt scythe? shit was wack.
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>>261229923
LOUD MUSIC
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>>261229741
It's time for Pygmys to rule.
Just kidding, I let her live, I killed every god, though.
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>>261229741
Souls, bitch.
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>>261230015
>killing gwyndolin
you're just as bad
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>>261229741
>there are people in this thread who killed Gwyndolin the perfect waifu
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>bought Demon's yesterday
>beat phalanx
>Be in tower of Latria for the first time
You weren't kidding,this place is amazing, does the game look half-assed at any point like DaS post O&S or is everything just as polished?
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>>261230081
>screams HERETIC! like a kid who got told
>not wanting to kill him
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>>261218468
I liked Dark souls as whole

except new londo
fuck new londo
I hate these places where you can get easily lost
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>>261230081
>not killing the one guy who's essentially forcing you on this journey so that HIS people can continue worshiping him
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>>261229923
The first time you get there after going through the piece of shit that it the Great Hollow is really awe-inspiring, probably enhanced by it being the only area in the game with background music.

But yeah, you're right that it's actually pretty shitty from a gameplay perspective once you've done everything.
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>>261229741
Because Platinum trophy.
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>>261230483
>new londo
>hard to navigate

better get some glasses
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>>261230483
how did you get lost in new londo? it's a straight line
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>>261230081
>Not killing miserable trap
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>>261230161
The final bosses of each world except the first one are all pretty bad gameplay-wise.
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>>261230508
actually that reminds me, how did anyone even find ash lake, it's behind 2 walls one of which you have no reason to even be near
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>>261230483
>new londo
>get lost
Really? It's a spooky place, for sure, but ain't no maze.
The most spookiest location however, is Dark Anor Londo
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>The entire half of the game after bigge and smalls
>good in any way
Also I didn't know there was even an underground/sewer section in the Painted World until somewhat recently.
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>>261230764
>that wonderful feel when you assume the boss of a certain level is going to wreck your shit in so hard, so you're afraid, as your trudging through the level to actually get to him, and you realize you've run out of all your important shit to defeat the boss, but you fight him anyway, and defeat him on your first try
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>>261230884
but to leave you have to go in there and pull a lever
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why DS 2 is such shit comparing to 1?
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>>261228740
Dukes was my favourite invasion spot.
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>TFW you'll never camp out at Firelink Shrine.

It hurts /v/, it's my happy place.
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>>261231065
B-team
>yfw A-team making Bloodborne 2 and B-team making Dark Souls 3
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>>261230884
>he doesn't like skeleton party zone

sigh
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>>261229334
Hands of God, they were the Caestus of Demon's Souls, and they were viable.
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>>261231129
Doesn't look like that.
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>>261230973
not demon souls feel but
>fighting iron golem.
>great scythe breaks
>out of pyro spells
>hit him with dung pies
>spend next hour and a half running around whilst he dies of toxic
>realize I have repair powder
>commit Sudoku
I'm posting this as a skellington
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>>261231161
Bloodborne 2?
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>>261229741

She's so perfect.
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>>261231129
>That theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2llS87avh2w
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>>261231278
Yeah, after Bloodborne
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>>261229334
>using caestus
>not using your bare fists
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>>261231169
he's probably one of those faggots who didn't have a lantern
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>>261230483
>Not farming Slabs on New Londo by killing Wraiths

Do you even Blacksmith
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>>261231087
Brotherrrrrr
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>>261231406
>I don't even like that meme but this is gold
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>>261231406
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>>261231406
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>>261231161
>yfw A-team and B-team working together on something different, but both inspired by Souls and Bloodborne
> It turns out to be so great, it cannot be peaked again
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>>261231461
>ever needing more than 3 slabs per runthrough.
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>>261231251
The Iron Golem is prone to status effects??!
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>>261231406
>Y-you give warm
>Y-you give shiny
>Dark Souls 2 final lighting system
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>playing souls games
>not playing clearly superior Diablo 2
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>>261229334

There's a hack that lets you use a crazy set of attacks that weren't implemented for some reason. Possibly meant to be included in future DLC.

It gives you crazy Heihachi move sets including a leg sweep, a fireball and a drop kick.
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>Didn't notice the lever in the sewer the first time I came here
>Accidentally do the jumping attack on the legs, causing them to stand up
>Spent 200+ hours doing this every time I went through the painted world before someone telling me about the lever in the sewer
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>>261231646
>not upgrading all the weapons and armors in the game
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>>261231684
yup. the only thing it resists are physical attacks
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>>261231714
From Software is even better at cinematics than Blizzard.
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>>261223064
>Sen's Fortress not even on the list
What the fuck are you doing
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>>261231753
W-wha

Which lever. Is this a joke?

Why
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>>261231743
I've seen a webm of those, they looked fucking sweet.
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>>261231849
lever in the sewer to get the door to open to get legit access to boss room
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>>261231646
>Not updgrading a full set, weapon and shield with slabs

Are you even trying
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Does anyone have the two Dark Souls 2 comics with:
>player invades Licia and gets WoG ohko before he's able to move
and
>player tries to take a sippy, but the process of taking a drink is so slow the estus is just about to touch his tongue before the Sinner is in his face?
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>>261221313
If you wear full havel's armour, maybe
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>>261231849
There's a switch you can pull in the sewer that opens that big door in the arena below the dragon
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>>261231880

It's fucking radical. I think the leg sweep is always a cofirmed knock down, the kick hits multiple times and if you press L1 R1 RT RT you get a sick fast combo. And the fireball fucking HURTS.
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>>261230986
no you can kill the undead dragon, attack the feet to make them magically stand up, and jump down the bridge to the boss fog
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>>261223064
I fucking hate the forest
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>>261231775
>ever upgrading armour
>ever wearing armour that can be upgraded.
>ever having more than 3 weapon in your inventory at a time
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>>261232007
Are you kidding me? I can go through naked just fine.
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>>261232081
ur shit
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>>261231962
>needing to use any shield
what are you? a Casul
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>>261226596
>>261226701
Pretty sure it's CP, dunno why people are being sekrit klub about it.
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>>261232218

>not beating people to death with shield

Casual.
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>>261232081
>I hate the fact I can't parry
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>>261230854
I found it on my own on my first time through, lucky as shit.
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>>261232218
>casul
It's casual, newfriend, learn to english language. ;)
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>>261232383
>correcting casul to casual
you are clearly the new one here, pal.
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>>261232119
Even the hollows do a lot of damage. Wheelskeletons will stunlock you to death if you're unfortunate.
The harpies deal a lot of damage and poise break.
Xanthuous King

also
>running in the snow naked

It's not an easy area without a shield, especially on NG+
Depends on the weapons you use, I guess. I usually use a longsword.
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Tfw want to play demons souls but playing games in 720p at 30 fps with framedrops triggers my autism
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I didn't rekindle the flame,should i feel bad?
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>>261232113
It's like you hate fun.
I allways try out new sets and it would be a pain to go back to a bonfire and take my equipment from the box every time I have an idea.
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>>261232383
>he didn't know about my maymays

Literally Casul
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>>261232489
Learn to english language, then come back to this board, buttblasted fellow.
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>>261232536
it literally doesn't matter
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>>261232540
I enjoy fun. but I prefer being able to change my weapon and armour quickly. if I want to try new sets I just do it un-upgraded. I can't try too many sets anyway because I'm a dex build with barely any strength
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>>261221313
Rangedfag detected
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>>261230119
>>261230015
>>261229741

I killed all of them Gwyindolin, Gwynevere and Priscilla.
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>>261232520
I don't remember there being very many instances of framedrops at all, maybe when bearbugs explode.
Your eyes will get used to 30fps and then when you go back to 60 it'll be even glorious.
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>>261232823
>Gwynevere
lmao how?
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>>261231829
>caring about cinematic
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>>261232536
it dies out anyway. you're just keeping it going for a couple thousand more years

>>261232621
I know english fine. you are just too new to know le dank casu maymay
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>>261232891
Bow
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>>261232891
ranged attack makes her disappear
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>>261232970
>>261232976
you can't shoot an arrow across the sea that far bro :^ )
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>>261232976
>>261232970
you realise that's not her it's just an illusion of her
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>>261232184
It's just annoying as fuck that there's so many open areas AND such a short viewing distance
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>>261232806
You can rearrange the inventory. I moved the ones I frequently use to the top.
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>>261232968
>le dank casu maymay
Did you have an aneurysm or a stroke when typing?

>>261233070
>>261233092
Uh, yeah. That's why I said "makes her disappear". I know I replied, but don't lump me together.
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>>261233218
You are clearly too new/stupid to understand. I would tell you to go back to reddit but I'm pretty sure there's an age limit there
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>>261232968
>you need to know our in-game memes to be accepted here, b-buddy, or you aren't from our league "smugface"
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you pyromancy motherfuckers are cheap, with your bullshit circle of unblockable flames that do 800 damage
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>>261233406
>my mature memes for the mature gamers such as myself XDDDDDDD
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>>261233406
No. I just don't shitpost and say crappy lingo like the dumb piece of shit you are. Holy shit
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>>261232113
>Not swapping between a variety of different weapons during PVP to give your opponent a chance.
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>>261233413
I'm not saying he's not accepted just that he shouldn't critisize other people for it
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>>261223064
Darkroot is plain and flat, should be okay tier.
New Londo, Blighttown, Sen's and Painted World should be good tier, while Depths and Duke's should be okay tier.
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>>261233624
I'm a level 170 something and I always let them hit me and if they don't do too much damage I switch to thorn set and a wood grain ring to annoy them. it's hilarious getting invaded in the burg by some level 12 shitter doing 3 damage per hit
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>>261223064
Blight Town is honestly my favourite, though I played through it on the PC version with no framerate drops.

Just the sheer atmosphere and the feeling of terror as you navigate the vertical maze of dilapidated town not knowing whether you'd be ambushed or not. And if you got invaded, well prepare for the most tense experience ever.
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>>261233624
some guy gave me a bunch of titinite shards and slabs then kicked me praised the sun then dissappeared

i love the pvp in this game sometime
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Firelink Shrine, the Catacombs, Undead Burg, Undead Parish, Darkroot Forest, the Depths, Blighttown, Sen's Fortress and Anor Londo might be the best designed world in any Metroidvania I've ever seen
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>>261227508
Nearly every level is a straight line if you trivialize it like that. It has as much to explore as any other level.
It's the cool architecture and the intimidating hugeness that makes it good. Also the shortcut is pretty cool.
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>>261233876
>tfw I went in through the master key route and got so confused I worked my way up to the depths gate and posted here asking for help
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>>261232509
>if you're unfortunate
You if you suck at the game
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>>261234021
how is DaS "metroivania" ?
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>>261233876
Blighttown doesn't get enough love. It's awesome how far you can see everything, like the light coming from above and the walls of the burg. Flies were annoying though
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>>261233867
I personally love getting people down to a sliver of health, taking off all my gear, and punching them to death with my bare fists.

It's even more fun in DaS2
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>>261234103
Sh-shortcut.
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>>261234159
because it has a persistent, inter-connected world instead of linear stages?

What other qualifiers are there exactly?
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>>261234202
>tfw moving through the game so slowly by the time I'm good enough to feel confident enough to invade PVP will be as dead as DaS1's is
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>>261234192
The trip down from the Depths to Blightown was probably one of the most memorable parts of DaS for me
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>>261234391
It's already really dead except for the arenas.
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>>261226853
is Zweihander a class?
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>>261234391
Are you playing on console? PC DaS is packed.
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>>261234159
Item-based progression
Highly interconnected areas
Focus on exploring the environment
You become more powerful through better equipment
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>>261234460
stuck in the 45m ghetto?

Its pretty lively once you start using CE to get around Soul Memory
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What's the best starting class for a guts run in Demon's?
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>>261234529
casul class
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>>261234454
I went to Blightown first time from Drake's Area.
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>>261234454
>mfw taking the shortcut to Blighttown
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>>261234192
It's kind of like New Londo. I think they're both severely underrated areas and their biggest flaw is annoying enemies.
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>>261229140
completely agree, that's why Boodborne will be the best game of this generation.
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>>261234671
install DaS
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>>261230119
>Gwyndolin
The first time I made it to Gwyndolin, I noticed the player made messages left around the boss fog.
>Amazing trap ahead
I know this was one of your guys' doing. kek'd
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>>261234713
>light for its class
>literally floors everything but Havel
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>>261234671
Knight
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>>261234926
>floors everything

casul
a
s
u
l
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>>261234391
It's absolutely full of awful players right now, you should try it. I was mediocre at best at DaS PVP and in DaS2 I'm winning something like 9/10 fights. Hang out in the Belfries, they tend to be much easier than the arenas.
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>>261235035
>Not parrying Havel with your bare hands on a SL1 run
Full fucking casual ITT
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>>261235035
you want to show me your rapier/dagger build?
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Undead Burg is the best stage in DaS
This is beyond question
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>>261234885
>right before princesses chamber door
>Amazing chest ahead
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>>261234560
no I'm on PC but I've done 3 playthrough 100% in human form and I've got invaded 6 times. invading in the burg I understand soul memory now and it's a good idea just done adly is awful because It's always some fag on NG+23 OHKs me with wrath of the gods. Im usually over leveled from doing toher bosses because fuck O&S by the time I get to anor so no invasions for the rest of the game
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>>261234391
>>261234560
>console DaS is dead
Nigga I play on the 360 version DAILY and it's still got tons of people playing.
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>>261235185
>instant death
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>>261235196
NG+ cant interact with NG
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>>261235185
are there more of these?
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>>261235156
sure, and you show me your zaphander build ;)
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About finished my first playthrough, killed all the optional bosses and finished the dlc but I'm kinda freaking out. If I beat the last boss am I forced into NG+? I'd still like to run around and pvp a bit and stuff before my next playthrough but I do want to see the ending.
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>>261235348
Talking about the first Dark Souls.
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>>261235141
Nobody in DaS threads walks the talk, it's fucking funny.
Beat Havel parrying with your bare hands
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>>261235332
If you get caught in the flames when you first trigger it at an appropriate sl for the burg then yes, instant death.
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>>261235417
yep forced straight in. you finish the credits and it sends you right back to the asylum not even a menu. remember to kill every npc for that sweet humanity
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>>261235385
>implying I use builds
>implying I don't just use a zwei and anything that will still make me fast roll
>having to use builds to get by
babby
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>>261235417
yes. NG+ begins immediately and there's no way back. I suggest hanging around now before you end it untill you get literally sick of it
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>>261234192
Yeah I loved that about Blighttown. I always thought it was night out, but then I looked up and realized that its still light out and the darkness iwas just from how deep you were in the ground. I also liked seeing the lower foundation and support structures of the Burg integrated into the level like the bonfire in the cove

Also, as far as those mosquitos, I found the most luck dealing with them by using throwing knives, i carry 99 when i first go down into blgihttown
or (perhaps the best way)
git gud

>>261235195
Oh god, how could I have forgotten about that one
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>>261235216
i play it on ps3 and everytime i get into blight town there's some pyromancer waiting to invade,it's like they live down there
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>>261235668
they do. because they're an NPC
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>>261235546
Anon, please.
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>>261235748
What are you talking about fag
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Nah, Dark Souls had a lot of great locations, enhanced by their connectivity with eachother. DeS meanwhile was a place I remember having a couple of cool buildings but full of bland dark places with little in the way of scenery and especially lacking in variety.

Dark Souls 2 is just all over the place. A few places make me happy but it's a very few. Other places are way too straitforward or way too bland in their design. They tried to do the same all 1 map thing that Dark Souls 1 did, but it was extremely sloppy with geometry making no sense. For example, how the fuck did I reach the top of a windmill and then take an elevator up to a castle right outside a volcano? This shit has no build up.
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>>261235542
>>261235594
Dang, I really wanted to just have a character to mess around with but I gotta see the ending at least once. Thanks for the help guys
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>>261235196
I miss my SL1 dickwraith build
>Dingy gear
>Oolacile crown
>Chaos reinforced club
>Balder shield
>Black flame

I can do the same thing in DS2 with CE, but the magic is gone. It was so neat knowing that I could invade literally anybody in the game, including other dickwraiths
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>>261234130
No. I'm good at the game.
It's nice to know you like to go out of your way to belittle people anonymously.
No, really. It's a nice touch to uphold that "anonymous so evil" notion.
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>>261235546
there's a difference between using builds from the internet and using builds you made. you're usign a build right now.
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I'm playing Demon's Souls and while the art direction is even better than Dark Souls, and the Tendency system is a neat idea that never really gets well executed, some technical problems and design concepts mar the experience for me.

And by this I mean the Allant fight - trudging back to him takes significant time due to powerful enemies you have to take on carefully, then there's an elevator ride and a humongous fps drop during the bossfight. On top of all, Miyazaki's idea of punishing the player is making the boss delevel him. This shouldn't be hard to avoid, but sometimes my inputs get all jumbly because the framerate confuses me, and he teleports his grab when my roll finishes, depleting souls. That and weapons like scraping spear are pretty pointless design. I don't want a game that introduces more tedious crap, I just want a challenge. And by tedious crap I mean anything to do with crafting. Holy shit, did the Monster Hunter do it well compared to any other game. Yes, I'm aware of Stockpile Thomas exploit but it would further ruin the experience. Getting ores is such a pointless chore though.

Except for MH, did any game do crafting well, and didn't just use it as padding? Because it's the worst element of Souls games.

As for Dark Souls areas:

God Tier: Blighttown, Burg/Parish

High Tier: Depths, Fortress, ToG, PW, Catacombs

Mid Tier:
Darkroot, Londo (New and Anor)

Shit Tier:
everything else

Demon's Souls is way above Dark in terms of level design. And DaS 2 looks like something Blizzoware would make.
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You'll never fuck Melinda
You'll never fuck Roenna
You'll never fuck Solaire
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>>261235417
>watch ending(s) on YouTube
>stay a fight scrubs

>>261235536
It's never instant death. Never. Unless you walk onto the bridge with like 10 HP left.
>>
All of the Souls games are pretty close in quality, some excelling in certain areas more than others.
Anyone saying one is vastly superior than the other is either a nostalgiafag, waifufag or just a retard.
>>
What was it like to see Gwynevere and Ash Lake without guides?
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>>261235886
and people complain about soul memory when people like you are around

(no offence)
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>>261235925
That's what I meant.
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>>261235886
Isn't Dingy Gear literally the only thing you can't get in NG with ascetics?

from hates dickwraithes
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>>261235216
I play on ps3, and I get invaded at least once each level if I go through it unhollowed the entire time. The twink builds that constantly invade int he Perish get aggravating though. Because of that, every play through i do, I spend 1-3 hours jumping around to different high level areas to grab end game spells and gear, just so i have a fighting chance against invaders when i start doing the main quest thing. Like, I'll have wrath of the gods in the first hour or two of my faith build playthroughs.
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>>261235748
Maneater Mildred isn't a pyromancer
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>>261235886
>shield
>reinforced club
That's no fun, anon
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>>261235195
>Solaire's balcony in the burg
>the whole thing glows orange with Need holding with both hands
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>>261236035
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>>261236093
they're right to complain about soul memory
Anybody who wants to twink will just use CE or a mule, hell its easier than beating 4kings at SL1.

Soul Memory is like intrusive DRM. It only affects legitimate customers.
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>>261235876
what level are you? I went in as a level 93 and I still did most bosses first time. NG+1 is really easy
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>>261236035
>Mildred will never lock your head between her juicy thighs
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>>261236093
>keep soul memeory for new game
>level matchmaking in ng+

it's not that hard B-team, it's still piss easy to twink in DaS 2
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>>261236021
>sometimes my inputs get all jumbly because the framerate confuses me,
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>>261236021
>a humongous fps drop during the bossfight

What?
4 playthroughs and never experienced this. Are you playing on disc or downloaded version?
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>>261236278
That better be a female character because it looks gay as fuck.
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>>261236375
>>261236035

Fuck I just called Mildred Melinda
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>>261236361
>most bosses
except 4k right?
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>>261236341
>yes but it sucks being human at level 14 and being invaded by someone at the same level but has the best gear
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>>261236380
stop being entitled

From doesn't want you to have SL builds from co-op and pvp
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>>261236021
Negro, I had some serious fucking issues with Tendencies. The difficulty would raise the more you died and that's the games basis. There was a point that I died that much at Valley of Defilement that I had to start a new save.
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>>261236564
>stop being entitled

jesus christ
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>>261236556
soul memory doesnt fix this
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>>261236052
I get I can watch the endings elsewhere but it just doesn't feel right to put so many hours in and not finish the game myself.

Also, for a reroll character whats fun to play? Im just finishing up and the I mained heavy armor build with black knight greatsword for most of the game, was thinking about seeing if caster is any fun, something fast paced too maybe. Want to see if I can get into invincibility frames and parrying
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>>261231753
This is not a bug. It works way too well for that.
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>>261236529
I just put on iron flesh and tank their hits and take them out with about 30 seconds to relax until the next one comes up.
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>>261236035
>implying you don't join in jolly co-opulation before linking the fire in both your separate worlds
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>>261236595
world tendency only goes down if you die in human form or kill NPCs

Its not complicated, just stop using ephemeral eyes
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>>261236692
how does it not? I only get invaded by people with similar gear to me
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>>261236556
>People who are really good at the game will know what to spend their souls on and will make it through the game with a far lower soul memory from not dying nearly as much
It still punishes and makes bad matches for new players.
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>>261236767
how do you even get solaire to survive until the gwyn fight? he's always hollow by the time I see him at lost izalith
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>>261236941
Then stop being new, we all had a challenge with souls games.
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>>261236503
>Not humiliating your victims with a faaabulous appearance
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>>261236361
93 actually, don't know why I want to stick around so much. Now that I think about it if I have no bosses to fight and have memorized most of the zones its kinda pointless to run around. Im just having fun in the forest covanent now, dont want to wait to be in it again or facing ng+ people instead of scrubs.
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Zulie's set would be perfect if it didn't have that cut-out back or those ugly nails.
I wish there were different builds for male and female character models.
Demon's Souls had that, but the tradeoff was that there were less armors and some gender specific ones.
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>>261237073
you stay in it in NG+
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>>261236868
>how does it not?
Because anybody who went through the effort to become a Dickwraith at SL1 will go through the "effort" to fire up CE and change their SM to 50K

The only thing SM accomplishes is killing SL build for co-op and pvp, unless of course you use CE
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>>261237073
and most the people still suck in NG+

>>261237174
I was referring to the covenant
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>>261237010
Your character must be struck by a sudden premonition and open the shortcut by the Spider Lady to kill the sunlight maggot before Solaire has the chance to go there and stick bugs to his head because he's sad.
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>>261223064
>tfw I loved lost Izalith.
Why do people think it is so bad?
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>>261224947
>Playing DaS first
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>>261236692
>don't use any soul clusters or kill any unessecary enemies
>finish forest
>kill dragonrider
>move passage
>get to iron keep
>get gold serp ring
>get ember
>farm manakins
>buy Uchi
>bellfag it to +10
>???
>ruin the day of a thousand fuckboys who aren't good at the game
>profit
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>>261237357
Dragon Asses, Bed of Chaos, overall reuse of other bosses
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>>261225617
>>261225617
Brume tower is was Kiln of the First Flame should very been.
> Black Knights rising from ash
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>>261237136
>I wish there were different builds for male and female character models.
I actually really love that it doesn't and you just get what you see.
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>>261237342
oh ok, fuck that. just to keep him live for the easiest boss fight in the game
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>>261237357
empty
shitty ennemies
that fucking lava lake that burns your retina
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>>261237439
whta's wrong with dragon asses
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>>261237452
>I actually really love that it doesn't and you just get what you see.

I actualy wish it was a bit more like that
the Desert sorceress set is mega gimped for males, it doesn't even reveal the butt and the boots are shortened
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>>261236595
I'm pure black character tendency and have no trouble with the game (except Allant) so far because I overleveled - not by grinding, it's just that Shrine of Storms gives a humongous amount of souls, and 1-3 and 1-4 are even more opulent.


>>261236490
Downloaded. It's very noticeable, especially when he comboes and I roll away from him. It does not render the game unplayable, but combined with his tankiness and the fact that around 28 hours in I still don't have a good STR weapon, it's all sorts of jarring. His moveset is fine, but some elements of that bossfight I highly dislike. He's the worst designed boss after Dragon God that I've met so far.
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>>261237590
They used to have insane aggro range, are still overall annoying to fight melee and scalies are dumb
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>>261237481
That's ok, I'm sure he'd understand, it's not like you two were friends or something.
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>>261237428
>load Mule save
>level to 838 with zero soul memory
>put on vanquisher's seal
>???
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TOP TIER
Artorias
Manus
Ornstein and Smough
Sif
Gwyn (unless you parry)

HIGH TIER
Sanctuary Guardian
Quelaag
Kalameet
Bell Gargoyles

OKAY TIER
Capra Demon
Asylum Demon
Taurus Demon
Gwyndolin
Four Kings

COOL BUT 2EZ TIER
Iron Golem
Gaping Dragon
Crossbreed Priscilla
Pinwheel
Moonlight Butterfly (if ranged)
Gwyn (if you parry)

BAD TIER
Bed of Chaos
Demon Firesage
Stray Demon
Moonlight Butterfly (if melee)
Seath
Centipede Demon

Someone do one for DaSII or DeS
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>>261237698
Three words mang
Slumbering dragoncrest ring
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>>261237615
I just like you can get them in a dress.
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>>261237761
>get cheat engine
>drop someone a +14 ladel in forest
>???
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>>261237698
I wasn't even sure they could aggro I wentthrough there at least 12 times fighting bed of chaos and not one of them aggrod on me
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>>261236451
Hey, it doesn't help that Allant looks like pic related and that bossfight runs in based MT Framework.
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>>261224947
delete this PCnigger
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>>261237428
>>261237892
>>261237761
bravo from

Thanks for killing SL builds
At least you stuck it to those lousy dickwraiths
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fuck biggie and smalls i can never beat smalls after he sucks up biggies life juice. i want his armor dammit
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>>261237837
For some reason whenever I looked towards that giant door in centipede demon's room I had huge frame drop (down to 15fps) and it made the fight almost impossible
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>>261237925
Did you go those 12 times during unpatched DaS1?
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>>261237837
>Manus
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How much time did you fags spent creating your character? I usually try to mold them to look decent but From Soft can't into faces. I did like the new features on DaS2. If only they had added body tattoos.
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Solaire never makes it to the sunlight maggots, I always develop a craving for his pimping armor at some point and he has an accident

I've actually done a run where I kill every NPC as soon as possible, a lot of them don't even drop stuff unless you wait to kill them later

Lautrec is the only one who is a bro and drops something useful immediately
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>>261238082
no I bought it in may and got to izalith in july
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>>261237357
That lake of lava that hurts your eyes and rapes your ears with WOOSH WOOSH WOOSH.
Having to equip that stupid ring every time you die.
Enemies are shitty statues and shitty dragon asses placed arbitrarily around the level, and those hilarious squiddy things.
Generally bland level design, not much to explore or look at.
Completely pointless Asylum Demon rehash.
Bed of Chaos.
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>>261237837
Capra is a much better bossfight than people give him credit for. It would be horrible if every boss was like Capra (die immediately, long walk back - this is the problem with La-Mulana) but he's a neat riddle piece on your first playthrough, really hectic. Stray Demon is also very good once you figure out what kind of damage he does.

Worst bossfight by far is Four Kings.
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>>261237653
I'm convinced the download version has framerate problems. I've played EU and NA disc copies and had drops only when rolling into a load of junk, yet my friend who downloaded it complains about drops during all kinds of normal situations. He's usually very reliable about this stuff too.

At least it can't be as bad as DaS on PS3
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>>261238119
DaS 1 about 30 seconds
DaS 2 I like to make waifus so about 3 hours
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>>261238119
3 minutes at most
1 minute to get a beard and thick eyebrows
2 minutes to make the biggest chin and jaw I can

>>261238190
Pre-patch Dark Souls 1 on console was a completely different ballgame and those dragon asses were huge cunts
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>>261238254
>Worst bossfight by far is Four Kings.
I assume you dont even count BoC?
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>>261238073
I beat Ornstein on my first playthrough, armor is really great unlike Smough's which is all bugged out and a huge dissapointment overall.
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>>261238119
10 minutes for the first, then I got down the formula for making a cute boy

I've deleted and spent so much time on so many grills tho, grills are hard to make
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>>261236021
>And by this I mean the Allant fight - trudging back to him takes significant time due to powerful enemies you have to take on carefully, then there's an elevator ride and a humongous fps drop during the bossfight. On top of all, Miyazaki's idea of punishing the player is making the boss delevel him. This shouldn't be hard to avoid, but sometimes my inputs get all jumbly because the framerate confuses me, and he teleports his grab when my roll finishes, depleting souls.
"I'm Bad: The Post"
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>>261238279
Don't know, I borrowed a friend's PS3 and don't have a disc. Biggest framedrop was when Dragon flies to perch above gate before Allant, but that has no bearing on gameplay. I still haven't gone to the Valley of Defilement so I hope it won't be horrible there. Allant is just such a bad bossfight for me because I don't like the concept behind some of his moves, and since I evade everything drops in framerate make me a bit lost and/or bored/irritated.
>>
>>261238119
Tattoos were a bad idea in general.
Also I hate that male characters can't have wrinkles or body hair, and females can't have long hair.
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>>261238127
But then you can't get his armor, which is pretty cool on its own and is one of the few sets that looks good with bits of the Xanthous set
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>>261238254
Well they're not terrible but I didn't find them to be especially outstanding bosses anyway. I put Firesage and Stray in bad tier because they're the same as Asylum mostly, though maybe that's harsh on Stray Demon.
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>>261238373
Well, yes, I guess I should count BoC but at least it looks nicer than Kings.

Kings are like a test in invincibility frames, and by introducing ADP stat whole series went to shit, I see them as a progenitor of this.
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>>261238427
Is this a mod? What the fuck
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>>261238616
>reached allant
>still hasn't STARTED world 5

You're going to 1 hit kill every enemy, why do you ruin the game for yourself?
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>>261238373
BoC was horrible but it did look cool.
4 Kings is the only boss which I think they dropped the ball on in terms of visual design.
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>>261238119
>make trap character to wear gwyndolin's stuff
>notice fine chin hairs in the face texture/bumpmap

kill me
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>>261238765
It's not my fault the game gave me so much souls, I didn't grind at all (I did grind before O and S but not in Demon's Souls).

How the hell should I know not to go somewhere on my first playthrough? I had trouble with Flamelurker so I went and explored other worlds.
>>
Crystal Cave is barely an area. It's two invisible bridges and a crystal platform with some lizards between them.
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>>261238757
nah that's just cheat engine magic

Some neckbeard at From spent like a whole week perfecting his Invader npc waifu to shame us all
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>>261238967
This is how reality works.
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>>261239021
That's the point, it's a fantastic PVP area.
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>>261238765
Don't worry about him, Anon. I'm sure he'll be shocked when he starts NG+ and gets his ass plowed all over again because the difficulty actually scales. DaS players never see it coming
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>>261238657
>Trying to make an old man character
>No wrinkles

>Try to make a girl character
>1 or 2 decent hair options and man shoulders for every body type
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>>261238427
>always avoiding eye contact
>breathes through her mouth
>those eyebrows
2cute, would invade mercilessly.
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>>261238119
depends on what headgear if any I'm going to wear on the character
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>>261239279
At least we have beards.
Maybe they're starting to learn something.
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>>261239215
About NG+ : since STR, DEX and similar stats stop scaling at 40, does that mean that you have a character that can do everything by the end of NG+? I mean if you have 40 STR/END in NG, you can build up 40 DEX/faith in NG+, right? Or do you go above 40?
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>>261236338
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>>261237136
Zullie's would have been perfect if femaled had pantaloons and not a fucking whore skirt with heels
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>>261239801
nice Mildred cosplay, forgot the sack tho
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>>261239801
That sun face
>please... kill me
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>>261235912
>run into the caves blindly
IM SO UNFORTUNATE

at worse you get 2 at the same time if you're not retaded, just sideroll and kill, jesus nigga
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>>261239801
You ruined my day.
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So what are some areas you all actually liked in Dark Souls 2
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>>261240221
Aldia's Keep and the rainy area before Drangleic Castle.
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>>261229153

Fucking genwuners.
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>>261240221
>generic cave with turd shaped stones and huge ass candelabras hanging from nothingness

is this a witcher age thread?
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>>261231349
This is a great song, and it gets extra nostalgia from me because it reminds me of Anxious Heart from Final Fantasy VII.
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>>261240221
Dragon's Aerie, that place was fucking rad.
Could have use a little more secrets and areas, but that's most of Dark Souls 2 though.
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>>261240221
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>>261231349

Hub themes: Majula > The Nexus > Firelink Shrine
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>>261240851
jesus christ
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>>261240820
Dragon's Aerie would be perfect if it wasn't for the completely random mummy guys.
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>>261240221
I liked Heide a lot, looks pretty fuckin neat to me, also Shulva has its enchant and Aldias
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>>261235185
>not parish
>>
>Play Dark Souls 2
>Power stances are the best addition for me
>Excited to finally use fist weapons for this reason
>All the fist weapons are absolute shit, only viable one is a caestus
>Hope DLC adds in more
>Still nothing

Fuck, all I wanted was 2 dragon fists for a Garnet build.
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>>261241250
that screen shot

LMAO
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Pate a best
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>>261241302
how can anyone side with Creighton?

Pate isn't exactly the diamond in the rough, but atleast he isn't a convicted murderer with no manners
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>>261230854
1) attack all chests because FUCK MIMICS
2) using a long weapon
3) reveal wall

Also, an area with such a shit item in the chest just screams "There is a secret here".
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>>261237338
>>I was referring to the covenant
You keep your current covenant and the items. As long as you don't go and change it you can carry on like before.
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>>261241473
But he is a murderer.
Only, he uses little Patches tricks instead of brute force.
At least Creighton is sincere.
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>>261239801

Would cuddle.
>>
Does anyone wanna give me some pure moon/dark moon/bladestone in Demons Souls? I want to finally platinum this game. I'm sl 100
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>>261241473
They're both pretty scummy fucks but at least Pate is voiced by Darth Maul
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>>261240221
I haven't gone through all of DaS2 because it takes me forever with these type of games to beat them, but holy fuck does DaS2 have more levels than DaS1.

So far I haven't really felt like I liked a particular area, (I'm in The Gutter, it's the only great soul left I need to collect). This game feels like a collection of level ideas, regardless if they make any sense how they connect with each other. Some areas are extremely short, at times I wished that there was more to explore.

From what I've seen, Drangelic looks kinda cool, so I'll wait until I get there. Some of the DLC also looks kinda neat.
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>>261241775
what region
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>>261240221
I loved the Gutter and No-Man's Wharf
The misty part of Shaded Woods was pretty amazing too
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>>261241302
the bird is the word
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>>261240221
The DLC areas all feel like what Dark Souls 2 should have been in the first place.
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>>261241873
US
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>>261242004
They change the combat so its not shit?
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>>261218468
>my nigga
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>>261241674
>Only, he uses little Patches tricks instead of brute force.
He never tells you a single lie throughout the entire game

It wasnt his fault he was born with a sinister voice
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>>261241920
It should go without saying that Ornifex is the best NPC in the game and best girl as well.
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>>261242045
sorry, can't help
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>>261242174
Thanks anyways.
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>>261240221
The new DLC area in Iron Keep is fantastic, but I liked Aldia's Keep, the road to Dranglaic Castle (and the mirror knight fight area and hallway).

Gutter was kinda neat because it was one of the few areas they kept dark.

Heide's Tower of Flame was ok.
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>>261241832
The Gutter is actually pretty cool if you take the time to explore it. Try to light all the torches and find the DaS pyromancer gear
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>>261240093
You're blindly implying that the skeletons in the big area don't come from both angles.
You can avoid it but if you're like me who likes to purge areas of monsters rather than past everything, maybe you can see my point.
>>
they should just make wearing heavy armour cancel out the ability to cast magic, fuck
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>>261242095
How about the gate in the forerst?
Or the fake treasure in the earthen peak?
He always sounds surprised when you come back alive, like he wasn't expecting it.
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>>261242246
>Heide's Tower of Flame was ok.

It looked nice but the level design was absolute trash. Just circular platforms with 1, 2 or 3 of the same enemy.

also this is pedantic but the DLC isn't set in past Iron Keep. It's present day somewhere else, some kind of ironworks forge for the Keep itself.
Solid level design though.
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>Power Stancing Dual Greatswords
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>>261242503
except he straight up tells you "hey, that's a trap. I wouldn't do it if I were you."
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>>261240221
Shrine of Amana
>>
best designed areas in DS2:
DLC
No Man's Wharf
The Gutter
Lost Bastille
Forest of the Fallen Giants
Huntsman's Copse

best looking areas in DS2:
Dragon Aerie/Shrine
Shrine of Amana
Black Gulch
Heide's Tower
Doors of Pharros
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>>261242687
>powerstancing the new iron chickenleg
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>>261242503
>How about the gate in the forerst?
He warns you

>Or the fake treasure in the earthen peak?
It's not fake.
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>>261218468
Too bad all of the DeS stages were linear shit.
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>>261219087
DaS had places you could see in the distance that you could actually reach.

Das II had skyboxes that could look nice, but everything was connected by magical tunnels that spit you across the island like crazy. Example: stand in Majula and look towards Heide's Tower of Flame. You can see the cathedral and it's fucking tiny, but the walk to get there is deceptively short for how big it actually is.
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>>261242867
>linear = bad
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>>261224475
Blighttown has no problem with a decent PC, which actually makes it a good zone in my opinion.
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>>261242938
DS2 has a bunch of isolated areas with elevators or big doors between them to mask loading times.

I don't understand why this makes everybody so angry
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>>261242938
Don't forget the invisible volcano and castle of Iron Keep
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>>261243195
>Don't forget
how could we?
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>>261242998
Definetely means worse than non-linear.
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Will Souls games ever manage a level that isn't an obstacle course? Enemies just stand and wait for you.
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>>261243276
No, it doesn't.
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>>261243330
As opposed to what? That's what allows for the great level design.
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>>261243276
why
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>>261243330
someone hasn't seen bloodborne
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>>261242046
The core mechanics of Dark Souls 2 were an improvement without a doubt in my mind. The souls series has always made the combat better through trial and error. The areas were the sloppiest part for me. Soul level and covenant design were iffy as well. Boss design was very often also disappointing.
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>>261243330
You gotta have obstacles to overcome in levels.
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>>261225617
What is the fifth area?
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>>261242691
He just says that he has "a bad feeling", as an excuse not to enter.

>>261242857
The treasure was nothing valuable as far as I remember.
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>>261243451
I hate the direction they took Dark Souls II in, I don't know how anybody who appreciated Dark Souls' combat can enjoy it.
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>>261243451
>The core mechanics of Dark Souls 2 were an improvement without a doubt in my mind
Are rolls a core mechanic?
Do you think DS2 did rolls better
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>>261243330
DeS did this the best. Most enemies had reason to be there and didn't just stand still. The best example would be the Mindflayer prison guards of Latria, but other enemies like miners in Stonefang all had activities
>>
Anyone want to give me some Pure Blade/Moon/Darkmoon stone in Demons Souls? sl 100, US region. I ran outta lizards and fucking skellies wont drop shit.
>>
>>261243568
Looks like Gaping Dragon arena, so The Sewers before Blightttown
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>>261243568
The Depths.
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>>261243450
>believing anything from shows after das2 trailer

what is wrong with you

also good luck having patrolling enemies and guarded secrets.
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>>261243683
yes, but that was because mind flayers patrolled narrow spaces.
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>>261243683
>Most enemies had reason to be there and didn't just stand still
>lists literally the only two enemies that do this

every enemy in worlds 1, 4 and 5 do this
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>>261243451
I thinking "oh shit" when they said you could get invaded while hollow, but I rarely even get invaded by players, I don't even think I have been invaded normally. The only time I faced multiple invaders was in that princes'/princess' belltower in The Lost Bastille.
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>>261243759
>>261243774
Oh, right. I kept on thinking it looked like the part of New Londo where you meet your first Darkwraith.

I always forget about the Depths. Probably because I usually skip it now.
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>>261243804
I never believed in DS2 because Miyazaki was never part of it, plus you didn't get to go to gamescon ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;)
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>>261229334
>>261231205
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>>261238863
>clusterfuck of a boss looks cool

>the ghostly versions of the darkwraiths from the lord of the rings dont


These new soulniggers, damn.
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>>261244008
>I usually skip it now.

Check this dork out.
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>>261218468

Meh. It's a pretty mediocre area
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>>261243415
>>261243336

>less complexity
>no sense of wonder and discovery because you know you are walking down a corridor
>much easier to design

DeS is miles behind DaS when it comes to world design, one or two shit areas nonwithstanding.
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>>261238119
about 5 minutes
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>>261244175
>Not skipping areas entirely by now

I can't remember that last time I went through Blighttown legit or even visited The Depths beyond grabbing the Large Ember
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>>261244226
>no sense of wonder and discovery because you know you are walking down a corridor
The only way you would know that a sprawling level like 5-2 has a linear path would be if you were using a guide
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>>261244175
Why waste the time? There's not any good loot to be had except the Large Ember, and that's before you get down into it.
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>>261244094
I just really wish the Bed of Chaos didn't die in one hit. It would've been so satisfying to just keep punching it over and over until it does die.
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Post yfw you completed all three Souls games at release, before they were patched and nerfed.

Feels good.
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>>261244358
>>261244430
Playing the game is wasting time?
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>>261239801
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>>261241302
>stupid murderer vs deceptive murderer
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>>261244525
Video games are a waste of time.
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>>261244525
Blighttown's got nothing I want that way aside from a longer journey to get Power Within
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>>261244525
If you really want to fight Gaping Dragon, I guess not. It's one of the easiest boss battles in the game, though, so I'm not sure why you would go out of your way to fight it.
>>
I want to touch Priscilla's tail
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>>261244698
Tail weapon maybe.
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>>261244698
>>261244684
The Depths and Blighttown are two of the best areas in the game.
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>>261244226
it's ironic that DeS levels are the most complex in the series
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>>261243642
Yes. Attaching an actual stat to it was a change I actually liked. It made it feel less like your invincibility "get good" move for pros and more like a piece of a build you might go for.
>>261243195
Worst example of level design in the game.
>Get to the top of a fuck huge rickety ass wooden windmill that you can see really clearly from the approach to it
>Fight a boss in a stone room
>Take a stone hallway to an elevator that lets you out of a castle in the middle of a volcano
All logic, all lore... just gone.
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>>261244846
Ash Lake is real pretty too, but I don't go there unless I need to.
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>>261242123
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>>261244805
Now that you mention it, I've never actually used it.
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>>261244050
it's about ethics ingrained in the company. from is disgusting, and they have started their DLC downfall route soon to be coupled with additional multiplayer fee only on PS4. play bloodborne over the course of a year and it's like you bought it twice. not counting DLC.
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>>261244375
It was a huge, poisonous swamp, right? At least right before the boss?

The road is straightforward as hell, from safe zone to safe zone.
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>>261244984
Tell me more
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>>261244520
The first Dark Souls was easy as fuck at release with all the ways to cheese shit.
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>>261244910
>DeS levels
>Any complexity at all

Sonygger elitists, please. I have yet to play DaS2, but DeS is just plain weak in that area.
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>>261245113
if you're fine with playing 5 dollars per month to play online on top of what you already paid for the game, go for it.
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>>261245216
Most games are easy when you look up ways to cheese them online.
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>>261244915
Yeah I found it to be sort of jarring the way the areas were just sewn together like patchwork. The weather, lighting, terrain, everything just changes sharply as you go through a door. When you look at that map in the mansion it doesn't seem at all like you have travelled as far as is shown.
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>>261245372
Or easily discover one of the many broken spells/weapons the game throws at you.
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>>261245526
Oh, ok, you just don't know what the word cheese means. That's ok, retard.
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>>261244094
Nah, 4 Kings design was a clusterfuck of spikes and twisty shit, it was far too busy and overdesigned. The magic attacks looked pretty generic too. And having every one of them look identical is lazy, as is making the arena just pitch black (yes, I know it's the Abyss, but come on).
>>
I pronounce Ornstein like Rammstein and Ciaran Siaran
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>>261245216
All the souls games are easy as fuck, people just don't realize it because they're playing for gamer cred and refuse to use more than one weapon despite having 4/6 whole slots for equipment on the fly and an infinite number of inventory slots after Demon Souls.
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Remember
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>>261245309
PCnigger please. Tower of Latria is more complex than anything in DaS.

Oh, and don't play DaS 2.
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>>261245729
But people say Rammstein differently too!
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I just beat the Fool's Idol but apparently it just keeps coming back to life. Am I missing something or is this just something to go back to later on?

Also, where do I find sticky white stuff?
>>
>>261245858
Gotta kill that dude on the upper right balcony
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>>261245729
What about Smough...it's frustrating to say.

Smoff
Smo
Smaow
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>>261245852
Its a sh
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>>261245985
Wait, you mean that guy sitting on the bench looking at that hologram thing? Fuck. I just went and grabbed the key and thought he was alright since he didn't do anything. Guess all those messages calling him a lair weren't joking.
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>>261245831
>Tower of Latria
>Complex

It's a fucking corridor, just twisted a bit.

>PCnigger
Miss, DeS was my first Souls game. It's just subpar. I also played DaS on PS3 post-AotA, I heard that changed a lot

>Don't play DaS2
But muh sense of completion.
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>>261245372
The problem was when you grew some balls and just stood right up next to the boss, you could kill a very large number of them really easily. Cheesing it was as easy and being point blank.
Bosses this works for:
>Asylum Demon
>Centipede Demon
>Quelaag
>Priscilla
>Four Kings
>Nito
>Iron Golem
>Pinwheel
>Seath the Scaleless
>Sif
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>>261245997
Smogh, with a long o
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>>261243948
Nearly every "DeS is the best" argument boils down to focusing on one enemy or level that was exceptionally good and making it seem like it represents the quality of the entire game.
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>>261246203
>DeS
>subpar

Delete your post now PCNIGGER
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>>261246192
You can lock onto him, so that's a tell right away that he's probably not your friend
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>>261245774
>pic implies Earthen Peak is right next to a mountain
>when it reality it's in a completely open area with mountains miles behind it

try again
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>>261245774
See
>>261244915
Windmill clearly has no mountain
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>>261246324
Really? I could've sworn I could lock onto Patches when I killed him, but people were telling me he's useful later on.
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>>261246192
Strange you didn't believe them especially after his sinister muttering.

On the other hand, I trusted Yurt, though he resembled Lautrec. Good thing he only killed two no name NPCs before I talked to him. And how the hell did Mephistopheles warn him about me when she never even met me?
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>>261246302
It is. Deal with it autist who only has one platform.
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>>261244463
The problem with that is that you could still get hit by pillars of fire in the claustrophobic area.
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>>261246493
Patches is pretty useful, must have forgot you can lock onto him, but it's a little hard to call him my trusty friend.
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>>261246615
Guess I'm gonna be killing anyone who stutters, acts shifty or laughs.
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>>261246675
Yeah, that's true. If only you didn't, then you could take your sweet time with it and actually beat it to a pulp.
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>>261246813
>Killing anyone who laughs
>Killing 99% of the Souls cast
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>>261229741
>Unexpectedly slip through a portal to a hellish ice-world with no way out
>Fight through armies of the undead and insane (or both), entire area is covered in grotesquely-treated corpses, stuck on pikes, hanged, or otherwise tortured and left there
>Put a fucking smack down on everything in the zone. Finally meet Priss.
>"This land is peaceful, its inhabitants kind..."

NOPE. YOU'RE GETTING THE AXE YOU LYING BITCH.
>>
>>261246218
For a lot of those I wouldn't call getting close "cheesing" the boss. Some of your examples are just plain easy (Seath, Iron Golem, etc.) and others are meant to reward that kind of play (Sif, Quelaag, etc.)
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>>261246813
For some reason I attacked nearly every NPC so far and they drop shit all. Now I'm pure black character tendency. I guess it's not like Dark Souls.
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>>261246615
Mephistopheles is in the nexus, she just won't show herself to you unless you have black tendency.
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>>261245729
Orn-steen
Key-air-ren
Smoe-g
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>>261230081
>not killing Griffith

Shit son.
>>
>>261219087
When I first noticed Ash Lake from Tomb of Giants I looked at it in awe.
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>>261247010
It's like saying those rocks in Latria that block the path unless you have Pure White World Tendency aren't there.
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>>261247127
>killing the savior of humanity

b-b-b-b-but my autistic waifu
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>>261247018
Orn-steen
Key-AR-ren
Smoff
>>
>>261247127
GRIFFISUUUUUUU!!!
>>
>>261247383
Orns-tein
Cia-ran
Smough
>>
>>261247242
It's not really since the Nexus is a big place to hide in and she could just leave it whenever you're there.
>>
Gough is the best knight, prove me wrong.
>>
>>261243103
Because it's retardedly lazy design, they actually took a step back from DaS' design. It's inexcusable.
>>
>>261247580
What's a dragon slayer in a world with no dragons
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>>261247865
Sounds a man who got shit done.
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>>261247865
A carpenter.
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>>261247526
>It's not really since the Nexus is a big place to hide in

Just imagine her watching you, constantly positioning herself out of your sight until she's comfortable with meeting you.
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>>261247282
>savior of humanity

If you unleash a disaster on 90% of humanity to have the remaining 10 in your city so that they could be ruled easily, it's not 'saving'
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>>261243195
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>>261248096
>questioning god's will
muh autistic waifu
>>
best song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIW7Ho4xMa4
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>>261248212
>god
>literally created by humans

Sounds like a shit god. Do you worship Banjo the Clown too?
>>
Guy who posted earlier, just beat the game for the first time. Dat Gwyn theme, holy shit. Subtle and simple but powerful
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>>261248096
This so much. Fuck Griffith and his utopia, piece of shit
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>>261248152
People will really go of their way to defend this shit.
>>
>>261248282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBYLtyaGXP8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZmDLazLGks
ftfy
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Guys I just started a Soul Level 1 run on my shitty channel. Im using Pyromancies and the reinforced club oir whatever it is that you can buy at the first vendor. Any tips?
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>>261248694
*touches tail*
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>>261248785
I just. I think Pricsilla is my waifu. I fucking LOVE this npc. She's just so godammed adorable
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So what was the deal with the petrified blacksmiths /v/?
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>>261248949

niggas got petrified
>>
>>261248949
Same thing that happened to Straid and the other statue NPCs
>>
>>261247865
Ask Ornstein
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>>261248694
I would like to gently nibble on dem cute little horns
>>
>>261248694
Go make a fire great scythe. You're gonna be doing alot of running and dodging though.
>>
>>261249091
but Ornstein was apointed captain of the knights by Gwyn, Dragon slayer for him is a title of honour and not an occupation like Gough
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>>261249220
Wait a second? How the hell can I wield a great scythe when i cant up any of my stats?
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>>261249367
My bad.
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>>261247580
I think you mean the stupidest.
What other knight would assume he's blind because someone filled the slits of his helmet with resin?

>making a giant a knight
>ever
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>Still can't fucking skip the credits unless you're on NG+

Being forced to watch this every time I beat the game with a new character is pretty annoying.
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>>261249992
muh 1st world problems
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>>261248152
You and everyone who defends this shit are really, really pathetic.
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>>261249610
Maaan you got me excited. The Great Scythe was my favorite weapon in my first playthrough. Got that bitch to +15 and just wrecked everything.

I've rang the first bell already though. But since I'm playing and I'm commentating with my friend I cant fucking play unless he wakes the fuck up.
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>>261250291
>retards too fucking stupid to see a simple game mechanic
>people prove them wrong with a few screenshots and ms paint

>Y-YOU'RE S-SO P-PATHETIC
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>>261250697
Absolutely pathetic.
You have my pity.
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>>261250747
stop reacting fuckboy
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