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>playing anything other than an S tier character with overwhelmingly favorable match-ups
>in the year 2014 Summer of Smash no less

I seriously and truly, from the bottom of my heart, hope that you guys don't do this.

Smashmains thread.
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>>260705752
The only favorable matchup I know is a good player against a bad player.
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who fucking cares what tier your main is at
i play my main because they're badass in my eyes not because they're the most op character
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Playing anyone other than Fox and Falco is stupid, just look at those fucking ratios.
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>>260706210
>Nessmain detected

Staybad.
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>tfw Jiggly player
>mfw Melee to Brawl
You have no idea how bad it feels.
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>>260705752
You either play as S or B.
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>>260705752
>not maining Suicidechu
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>>260706792
Oh, but I do.

Big Jiggs for life.
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I like to be Kirby or DK and just SD with the person I'm fighting against. Am I the worst kind of person?
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>>260705752
Woah, since when is Kirby so low ??
I thought some pro player was maining him recently and its ratio went gradually better ...or was it in brawl/PM ?

and
>not playing your favorite character anyway
look at that fucking amsa and his yoshi
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>>260706792
>top-tier character goes directly to the bottom tier in the next smash game
Stop doing this, Soccerguy.
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>>260709114
Since forever.

Kirby an shit.
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>>260709553
>never played smash 64
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>tfw main Pichu
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Smash should not be played competitively.
It wasn't meant to be competitive, and the creator doesn't consider it competitive.
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>>260709835
Daily reminder that anti-tourneyfags are more elitist about their preferred rules than tourneyfags.
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>>260709835

>clearly defined win/lose conditions
>winner screen

If he really didn't want it to be competitive he'd just have "lol that was fun" after every match
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>>260709553
>Implying Kirby wasn't the second strongest character in 64
Only below Pikachu, and Pikachu had its own tier like Meta Knight. Then again everybody was kind of viable in 64, even D Tier characters.
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Mains:

64:
Captain Falcon
Fox

Meele:
Captain Falcon
Roy
Fox

Brawl:
Ike
Captain Falcon
Sonic

(Prediction) Smash 4:

Veterans:
Sonic (Reports say he is stronger and some of his moves changed animations)
Captain Falcon (has always been my main, hope he is buffed)

Newcomers:
Shulk (looks fun to play as, will probably replace my Ike)
Bowser Jr (If the leak is correct then I will always use the Roy skin. He also looks fun to play as.)
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>>260709741
>>260710218
>Smash 64 being factored into Melee tier listings

Well that's an interesting idea anons, you should propose that to the community at large and see how it's received.
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>>260705752
>tiers
It's like you hate fun
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Did you know? Pikachu, Ice Climbers and Meta Knight are the only characters with their own tier list, with Pikachu in S tier in Smash 64, Ice Climbers in S tier in Brawl and Meta Knight in SS tier in Brawl.
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>>260710590
And knowing is half the battle.
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>mained link in 64, gave no shits about tiers
>mained marth in melee
>mained snake in brawl
>gonna main robin in sm4sh
Man having variety a great
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That's an old list. Falcon isn't S anymore.
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I main whatever characters I enjoy most. I look at the tiers just for fun, doesn't influence who I play. >mains Ike Ganon and C Falcon
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>>260710360
Your 64 melee and Brawl mains are literally the same as mine. Good taste.
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I only play with Game and Watch in Melee and you can fuck off with your Mary-Sue characters.
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I main the Cap mostly. Played lots of Roy in melee and Marth in Brawl though. Planning on maining Falcon, with MU and Lucina as second mains in 4.
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>major resurgence of popularity in the smash community due to EVO 2013
>surely this tier list couldn't be severely outdated!

lmao

there's a million changes you can argue but the major ones are that falcon isn't S any more and yoshi should be in the A tier above ganondorf

also samus has excellent matchups despite her A tier placement
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>>260711968
Who are you planning on maining on Smash 4?
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>>260713095
We differ there. Robin and Falcon are my big ones. Interested in Greninja too.
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>>260712443

you could easily argue that there aren't enough tiers in the 1st place. The gap between peach/falcon is huge. So is IC/doc. Fox/falco/shiek should also be the only s tiers
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SSB64:
Pikachu
SSBM:
Pikachu
SSBB:
Pikachu
Snake
SSB4:
Pikachu
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I've been playing a lot of Melee lately, since my roommate happened to have an old disk lying around.

I always loved Link, he may not be the objective best, but he's sturdy and has a lot of fun tricks.

Back in the old days, me and my best friend from highschool would have little Link vs Marth duels for hours on end, that was always fun.
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>>260713448
i've always liked the idea of the tiers being "viable/mostly viable/somewhat viable/trash" but yeah, i agree. you can have a tier list with the same idea anyways, always viable nearly always viable with work, etc. etc.
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I play Yoshi for Egg Juggling. Come at me amateur Furfags.
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>>260705752
Fuck off tourney fag. This game is not for you
http://mynintendonews.com/2014/08/29/sakurai-wants-super-smash-bros-to-appeal-to-everyone/
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>>260714271
it says in the title everyone, not casuals.
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>>260715246
"We want to appeal to a wide audience" is dev slang for "we're dumbing things down".
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>>260713448
A lot of top players are seeing marth as a great counter to spacies in the current meta, and I would have to agree.
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>>260715246
Yes, but not for tournament fags who need to tier everything and only play the best character and have to have the game catered to them.
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>>260715748

I feel like marth vs spacies is too stage oriented to be a solid counter
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>>260715859
"everyone" includes tourneyfags
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>>260716139
True, but all you need to do is get one good round in and if you end up losing you get that counterpick stage and FD is pretty much a free win for Marth against the spacies.
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>>260706792
>tfw Marth player
no problems here
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>Playing characters based on tier lists
>Not just getting good with your favorite character so you can wreck people who don't expect it
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>>260717343
Have fun with Kirby.
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>>260717531
I do.
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>>260715859
But the don't have to have the game cater to them. why don't you retarded brawlfags realize Sakuai did everything he possibly could to piss on competitive players with brawl?

Melee, 64 and 4 didn't cater to competitives but they also didn't try to fuck them over.
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>mfw wrecking noobs who think they can into Smash because they learned to Wavedash and play Fox by just dash chaining them with Dr. Mario into back throw
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>>260717343
Yeah, good luck. I'm sure you'll show M2K how it's done with Bowser because he "doesn't have practice against him". Tier lists are there for a reason dip shit. They aren't just arbitrary bullshit. You might be able to beat your friends with Ness, just don't expect to have fun against people who are actually good at the game.
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rate
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>>260706792
>Main Ness in 64
>Main jiggs in Melee

I know how it feels
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>>260718001
You have absolutely incredible taste.
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>>260717782
>Being this mad that I don't play with the best character from online tier lists
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>>260718001
Good stuff, but why are you abandoning the D?
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>>260718775
Still going to use him a lot, but probably not as much as Samus.
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>>260718859
But why? Samus didn't really get anything impressively new in Smash4 did she? Other than the Zamus split.
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>>260718562
Costanza main reporting in.
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>64:
Ness
>Melee:
Ness
>Brawl:
Ness
>PM:
Ness
>Smash 4:
Ness
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>>260718952
It's more like I'm not a fan of gordos replacing waddle dees. Waddle dees were hilarious.
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>>260719181
>tfw no more disposable projectile shields
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>>260705752

>kirby dead last

fuck

i hope he's good in Kerfuffle
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I guess I should post this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITyOLHilZtM
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>>260719329
Kirby was in the grand finale of that official Smash 4 tournament. That should mean something.
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>>260719329
He's one of the characters that got buffed by a huge margin supposedly.
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>>260719441
That's because Mango was being a camping bitch
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>>260719441
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>>260719329
He was high tier in Brawl
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>>260718001
I like you, you're a cool guy.
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>Sakurai lowers the skill entry/floor
>WE FUCKING WON, WE CASUALS FUCKING WON
>WAAAAH SMASH IS DOOMED

Every time.
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>>260705752
what the fuck, i thought kirby was somewhere around the middle last time i checked
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Oh man time to rev up those opinions.
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>>260719598
I'm sure you meant H-box. Mango wasn't even there.
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>>260716668
Ken said Marth got nerfed to shit in Smash 4
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>>260719865
how did he lower the skill floor?
Remvoing wavedashing? that only lowered the skill ceiling
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>>260720015
I thought Mango was invited. But yeah, I think I meant H-Box
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>>260719997
>ganon main
I want to play with you.
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>>260720042
>wavedashing
>skill ceiling
:^)
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>>260705752
I play who I like to play and I play with people who aren't sperglords that need to win at video games to have a sense of superiority and validation about their lives.

I play to have fun because I'm not autistic.
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>>260719791
You can still play PM in PAL territories if you use a usb loader.
Just load up a NTSC iso of Brawl and make sure to have Gecko codes turned on.
Homebrew is your friend.
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>>260705752
>not seeing pikachu blow the fuck out of fox
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Characters that need buffs:

>Captain Falcon
>Ganon
>Zelda
>Link
>Yoshi
>Samus
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I haven't played Brawl or Project M.
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>>260720020

they took all his good stuff, except tipper, and gave it to lucina.
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>>260710148
>Peach literally says "That was fun" when winning a match.
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>>260710369
>kirby is shit since forever
Hence why he said something about Smash 64.
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>>260720395
It's a lot of effort to have a game I'd have no one to play with.
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>Marth S tier
>Roy B tier
>Kirby last
wut
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>>260720964
Marth's grab range is enormous and his tipping mechanics make him way better than Roy.
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>>260720752
>since when has Kirby been so low? (on Melee tier rankings?)
>Since forever. (indicating that Kirby has been low on Melee tier rankings since their creation)
>SUH-SUH-SMASH 64 DURRRRRR

Clearly copious amounts of alcohol would have to have been guzzled as a fetus in order for a person to think bringing up Smash 64 rankings is appropriate when the topic of conversation was Melee rankings.
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dayum, dr. mario went up
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>>260720964
>Roy
>good
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>>260705752
>tiers
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>>260720256
why wouldn't it be?
you don't need to learn it to learn the game
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>>260721341
> girlfriend ONLY plays roy
> always saying stuff like "ugh my sword went THROUGH you"
> "I pressed down B!"
> continues to main a shit character

ehuehue
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>>260721583
>girlfriend

Normalfag gtfo.
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>>260705752
>tfw mewtwo main and was pretty good at it
>tfw mewtwo wont be in the new smash
>tfw even if he is Nintendo won't overhaul his moveset to make him suck less and not be a 'clone' of Lucario
>tfw I'll wait another 8 years for the new smash and mewtwo still won't be in
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>>260721328
and people wonder why nobody gives a shit about smash autists
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>>260718562
You can't play as mii in brawl
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>>260710148
>>260709835
>>260720580
>winning can't be fun
Like lets not have this discussion each time, in the end no one fucking agrees with eachother
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>>260722036
Srsly. They have the mental capacity of infants.
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>>260710148
Smash 4 victory screen confirmed.
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>>260717782
Implying you will ever play against m2k
Implying the character you choose will matter against m2k
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>>260719441
>Kirby was in the grand finale of that official Smash 4 tournament. That should mean something.
That´s because he exploited that lil mac stage with his upthrow.
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>>260709835
see>>260719398
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>>260722087

>moving goalposts

The discussion is whether the game is competitive or not, which it obviously is due to it's very nature
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>>260721583
As a g&w main, it actually is extremely frustrating when your attack animation goes through someone and does nothing and they proceed to punish you for something you should've actually been hit by.
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Who else is praying for a character they personally like that sucked in Brawl to get a huge buff?
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>>260721806
>mewtwo
>clone
filtered
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>>260722569
Come on, Jigglypuff, back to your glory days...
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>>260706110
Then you are very naive
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>>260722554
Mario Kart is competitive, should it be played at a comp level?

Sure I agree with you when we're talking SSB64 or Melee, but Sakurai just does this shit on purpose in Brawl resulting in the lowest attach rate of the century.

Can't we just get someone else working on Smash? geez
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>>260722589
But Mewtwo is a clone, Anon.
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>>260722087
I'm just saying that there is a "lol this is fun" line in the game.
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>>260722567
honestly, I wish people would start picking up SD remix
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>>260722569
>>260722640
Not really, I'll just play PM.

I guess Bowser is nice. I'm hoping for a Yoshi buff too
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>>260722776
Mario Kart was actually at EVO a while ago.
It's entirely possible to play it at a high level.
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>>260722640

jiggs got fucked by physics more than anything. When everyone floats and recovers forever, jiggs is kinda pointles
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>>260722640
Jigglypuff got a different render and posing in the Smash 4 leak. No more retarded tradition! SAKURAI IS GIVING A SHIT ABOUT HER!
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>>260705752
Good thing that's melee only and is now obsolete
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This fucking thread. People posting mains and other people complimenting them instead of getting shit on. Minimal shitposting.

I'm proud of you /v/

Will you try a new character or an old main first in Smash 4?
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>>260722776
>>260722950

MK wii had a comp scene but it was for teams
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>>260722997
>HER
Jigglypuff is a man, anon
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>>260723081
Going random vs random on a random stage with a friend online.

>>260722997
I wonder, I wonder.
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I used to kick ass as yoshi and D.K. back in Melee
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>>260723126
That's why she wears hats that only female trainers do...right?
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>>260722950
>>260723095
I'm aware of the 5v5 and 6v6 comp scene, but it´s still RNG filled. It´s like Pokemon on a comp level.

It´s a joke.
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I play games to enjoy them, when I win it feels good, when I lose I get to see my friends happy.

Tiers and builds are the reason games are boring to me nowadays, everyone is either A or B with an exact copy of moves/equipment/patterns. No creativity, experimentation, or fun allowed.
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>>260723126
Jig is canon female in the smash games. Just like there's a shiny pikachu.
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>>260723126
>man

It's a cartoon, weeb
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>>260723779

there's legit strategy involved in both. RNG doesn't inherently make something non-competitive. Dota, TCGs, etc. all have "rng" elements. Managing possible rng outcomes is a skill to a certain extent.
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>>260714271
says it in between brawl and melee
plays exactly like brawl

Fuck this guy
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>>260710590
Ice climbers have their own tier in melee as well (B tier)
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>>260724309
>plays exactly like Brawl
ha
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>>260724484
Not anymore they don't. They S tier now.
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>>260724328
FELCON PAWNCH!
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>>260705752
Wait wut...is this a new one or pulled from someones ass?
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>>260724328
How much did playing CF hurt in brawl?
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>>260724753
Every time I played it.
I never played anyone else.
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>smash bros
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>>260724883
I feel you anon. Here's hoping he's better in Smash 4.
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>>260725095
Momentum doesn't carry when you jump
He's still dead
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>>260722589
I put ' besides "clone" for a reason Anon
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>>260725095

he won't be
no momentume
little hitstun
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>>260724618
weird, the list on the wiki is outdated
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>>260725224
>>260725375
I know but I'm not giving up hope yet.
Maybe Sakurai will turn it all around at the last moment.
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>>260710148

competitive became a buzzword for "played for money/eSports"

Smash is very competitive
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>>260717782
>Implying competitive smash is fun
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>>260725732
>competitive became a buzzword for "played for money/eSports"

I think the term you're looking for is "Professional"

>>260725983
yes
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>he plays black Marth
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>>260726297
>playing marth at all

Enjoy your not getting grabs and getting uthrow uair'd
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>tfw will never be good enough at Melee to inspire this sort of hype
>Prog and D1 will never commentate my play

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHhVPpSUh_E
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Main fox and yoshi in 64, mained falco and mewtwo in melee, main falco and luigi in brawl. I wish yoshi remained as badass as was in 64 throughout the series. As far as ss4, probably will stick with falco and I am very intrigued by pac-man, might main instead depending
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>>260726571
See you at Final Destination punk
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>>260725983
Yes
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>>260726994
More room for me to run and bait your grabs son.
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>>260706792
You think you got it bad? You don't know shit.

Try being a guy who mained Ganondorf in Melee
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>>260718001
What made you want to main Samus in smash 4?
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>>260722569
M-me...
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>>260727383
She is stronger in the deo
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>>260727302
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>>260727383
>actually using the appropriate splash art for each game
This pleases my autism.
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someone post mains template
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>>260728319
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>>260728319
Have you even looked at the first post of the thread
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>>260723847
This, you can play banned characters/stages as long as you don't exploit a fucking gimmick
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I thought Samus was bottom-tier?

Were some new strategies discovered?
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>>260724168
The RNG in Pokemon and Mario Kart is too prominent IMO. I'm not saying they can't be played on a comp level but it's still a stupid thing to do.

That's the same as playing RPS on a comp level.

I think Dota is different, since most RNG-filled things make sense to a degree.
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>>260705752

I played mario pretty much only because his fun as fuck cape attack. Too bad it's nerfed in Brawl, and probably still nerfed in 4
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>>260729014
Samus is bottom tier in Brawl and Smash 64.
She's always been pretty decent in Melee though. Missile Spam and a strong crouch cancel Down smash help her stay competitive.
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Who /boot/ here?
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>>260729556
>>260719997 here.
I like you.
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>>260705752
Dr. Mario Cptn. Falcon were my mains
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DDD mains where we at?
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>>260730547
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>>260730547
Right here nigga
>>260719791
DDD best D
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>>260705752
>ganondorf
>A tier

this guy takes forever to do one hit
All the B attacks are uselessexcept B+2
has a shitty hitbox
has even a shittier range

the hell?
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>>260731247
You better shut the fuck up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm73y4JXQfk
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In melee I mained Marth, Falco, Falcon and Dr. Mario. Sorry about the Dr. Mario being in A tier OP
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I stick with my boys. I just end up adding more boys each game.
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>>260731247
The tier list is outdated. But actually, there are some players who do somewhat good in tournaments with him. Most people agree that he is overrated on the tier list, though. Also, the letters are inflated, A tier doesn't mean good.
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>>260731417
I always new I was a filthy casual
but not this much
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>>260705752
>Mr.Game & Watch is low-tier

It's like they hate fun.
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Probably one of the few dedicated Ness mains.
I hope he's in Sm4sh.
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>>260732223
Tier lists have nothing to do with how fun a character is. I mained Game and Watch in Melee, but he's pretty shit.

Glad he was improved so much in Brawl.
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All I want from Sakurai is make peope fear Ganondorf's space. One mistake and you are dead. His downside would be the slow speed and being easily combo'd.
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>>260732223
Game & Watch was actually unfinished in Melee.
He could only L-cancel two of his aerials.
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Does anybody know where I can find the leaked videos of Smash for 3DS?
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>>260733801
They got pulled as far as I know.
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>>260734106
It wasn't uploaded out of Nintendo's reach anywhere?
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>>260734176
I have no idea sorry.
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WHO FLACO MASTER RACE?
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>>260735063
>mfw there are people who don't personally prefer the air
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>>260735221
i prefer the dair
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Who /ROB/ here?

Do we know if Robotic Operating Bro is being buffed in Sm4ash?
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>>260735548
> maining wall-e in 20xx
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>>260735548
He got cut.

He was totally absolutely not in the screenshot leak that was pretty much confirmed 100% real as of yesterday
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>>260735826
See >>260669078
Look below Little Mac.
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>>260735826

Read again, I asked if he was being buffed.
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>>260735826
>implying the leak is real
Stay delusional faglord.
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>Playing SSB or anything Nintendo
>2014
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>>260736008

I'm just gonna go laugh somewhere.
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>>260735548
Eh, I think he'll be pretty much the same but with nerfed recovery.
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>>260736078
>playing video games
>2014
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>>260735548
I main G&W/Toon Link/Falcon/ROB. Fun times!
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>>260736671
You're literally my nigga, those are 4 of my 5 most played characters.

last one's Dedede
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>>260715859
Making smash viable for tourneys does literally nothing to impact a casual experience. That's why melee was so popular.
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>>260736845
I have yet to see a really good DeDeDe player, but one of my friends is trying to main him. Still wreck him erryday with G&W though.
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