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Smash Bros. for 3DS Roster

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Hey everyone, I'm sure everyone on the fucking planet knows about the smash bros leak, and I know someone who has access to the game and sent me this. I know it sounds vague as hell, but with all the shit going down, I don't want anyone losing their job over this. Also, sorry for the quality, I'm just posting what was sent to me. If I get anything else(or anything of better quality) I'll be sure to post it here. Believe this or don't, I just wanted to get this out there.
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i don't want to be THAT GUY but the wolf portrait looks like it came straight from brawl

also the dixie and mewtwo portraits are kind of ugly too.
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Not bad
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>>260389474
To be fair, so does Falco.
Still not buying it though, Dixie does look kinda weird.
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Is that Impa? There was a leak yesterday showing max KOs and had that Wolf and an Impa head too.

Nothing on Ridley, Dixie or Chorus Men though.

>no Mach Rider
;_;

>>260389474
Naw, Brawl Wolf's mohawk is thinner.
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>>260389474
The Wolf from Brawl's roster is facing to the side.
I agree about Dixie and Mewtwo though. Dixie especially looks jacked up something fierce.
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>>260389721
Yeah, Dixie looks like her Tropical Freeze render with Diddy's Smash Bros. render's mouth copied onto it.
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I can't find the ridley or Dixie renders holy shit...guys?!
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I'd like to find a leaked smash roster that isn't under a blur filter.
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Hey guys my dad is soccer guy and i can play the game early look at
>pic related
its the final roster.
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Okay so it's blurry as fuck but where's the tilt?
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Dixie is straight out of some promo art.
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>Ice climbers removed because "Double characters would be too complicated in smash run" or some shit
>Choir boys come in as a triple character
I mean I'm really happy that they might get in if the leak is real but I'm still not over ice climbers getting the boot
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>>260390092
no tilt, confirmed real
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>>260389964
You're joking right? Looks like he just flipped diddys model for Dixie and just added shit to her
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Looks actually legit.
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>>260389760
Ah here we go.

Would be nice if we could get a better look at the Impa render on this CSS.
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>>260389224
> Ridley

Fake.
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Looks good, except for the Dr. Mario and Jigglypuff portraits looking exactly like the ones from the recreation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVf-r2gZlDk
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>>260390385
Wasn't this debunked by basic math?
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>>260390620
No because you can scroll the pages to see the other fighters, otherwise the roster of fighters would be incredibly small, anon.
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Them chorus boys
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>>260389224
>No Lucas, even in fake leaks
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Where's Bowser Jr???

FAKE
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>>260390580
Jiggly looks bit different, but Dr.Mario yeah.
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i had a dream last night where i watched a smash trailer revealing zero from the zero escape series

that means it has to be real, right?
right?
why me
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>>260389224
Has /v/ really become dumb enough to believe any blurry tilted picture posted now because that one leak ended up being real?

Ridley aint going to be there, sorry
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>>260390021
>final roster
But there are clearly two spaces below Falco and Young Link, maybe there's still two characters?
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Fuck /v/ and fuck these leaks.
You telling me that you add three Chours Men but remove two Ice Climbers?
What the fuck?
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>>260390812
I meant Lucario's adds up to 34 when it says he has 33 total.
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Idiot, the full roster looks like this.
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>>260390812
Yes you fucking moron but look at lucario ko number for all the fight kos he's had. It says 33 when on that page alone he has 34 when added up
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>>260390250
If it is, I'd be surprised because it's too weird looking to even be palatable for promos.
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>>260390812
The number in Lucario's KO total is 33. The numbers in the row add up to 34.
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>>260389224
Looks believable actually.
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>>260391131
>>260391228
>>260391239
>games never have bugs

inb4 DAMAGE CONTROL
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>>260390812

I think he was talking more about the KO values being more than the total figures on the same image.
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Whats under the cursor? Could that be baby bowwow?
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Guys I just got the latest leak
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>>260391216
Oh, shit!
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>>260391216
fukuck u
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>>260390021
>that gap between Mario and Luigi
>all that misalignment
top fucking LEL
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>>260389224
SO fake.

Just wait half a month god damn. Leak threads are getting annoying.
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>>260391216
I can't wait to play as Glare!
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>>260391613
Mitch master race, reporting in
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>>260389224

>No Krystal

HAHAHAHA KRYSTALFAGS BTFO

B
T
F
O

But really, I'm glad that piece of shit didn't get in. I wonder how Krystalfags are handling this anal devastation.

On the plus side, FUCK YES Jigglypuff is back! I'm glad Sakurai kept him/her/it in. But was there any real doubt it would be removed? Hopefully it will encompass some new Fairy type moves.
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>>260391491
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>>260389224
>ice climbers still cut
>Chorus Men, not just marshal
yeah no.
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>>260391613
>>260392016
>Not maining Butch

Seriously, it's almost as if /v/ was full of fags or something.
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>>260391613
>doesn't even have him

dropped
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>>260389224
This is just fucking in.
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Every time I see one of these photo leaks, I can't help but imagine the one who took it get all surprised about finally seeing the roster and then goes "I HAVE TO SHOW THIS TO EVERYONE" while casually stuffing a potato in the camera's lens and pointing a flashlight into the screen and proceed to take the photo.
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>>260392294
You're the fag for maining butch
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Any leak with Ridley as playable is instantly fake as fuck. It's not even a funny joke, he isn't and never will be playable.
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>>260390280
>>Ice climbers removed because "Double characters would be too complicated in smash run" or some shit

i wish that was even a good reason

look at fucking rosalina and luma
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>>260389224
Damn it OP why.
Tell your friend he is an unprofessional asshole.
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If all the extra, questionable information pertaining to the leak ends up being true, this is by far the worst smash roster, and perhaps even the worst roster ever made for a fighting game.
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>>260392294
>Butch
Prfffff it's like you like to lose
Blossom Z master race here
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That Mewtwo render is HORRIBLE
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I wish I could say I'm happy we only have two more weeks of this shit, but those fakers will move on to blurry shots of dlc next.
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Well lets see here.

>Mewtwo
Decent render. Not half bad. Could be real.

>Chorus Kids
Also rather decent. I was expecting something along the lines of super ugly and fake as hell. They have the power to make those kinds of faces.

>Wolf
Yeah, looking at the google images now. LOTS of these have him with his head close to that position. No wait, I found a couple that look EXACTLY like the roster pic. Yeah, no buying it sorry. Sucks too, cause I was a Wolf main.

>Dixie Kong
Decent. Some notable aspects I have found. Every image I have found of her head in that direction has her with the yellow side bangs highly visable. I am looking very VERY closely at the roster pic, and I am not seeing the yellow bangs, which means this model is some kind of hybrid of the Tropical Freeze model, and the DKC2 model. Which makes it pretty believable for me.

Now for what I find is arguably close to the WORST ones of these five, with obvious fake Wolf doing better.
>Ridley
Before I begin, I just want to say I would be 100% fine if all of this turned out true. I really really would, so no holding anything against me ok? Ok.

Its terrible. For one, people need to keep in mind that on google, Ridley renders are so plentiful because so many people make them hoping for him to get into smash. Him having his mouth gaping open like that just doesn't look like the fierce determined Ridley you would expect. Also, there is usually something that sets the real renders completely apart form the others. Its usually the render can't even be found with the head in a similar position, or the render is previous iterations combined or something. It just isn't that good of a Ridley to me.

Let me repeat, I would be 100% fine if all of this was true, but I just don't believe the Wolf and Ridley renders.
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>>260389224
>Link with sunglasses in the upperleft next to mario

what the fuck is this?
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>>260390949
We're bored and it helps keep us away from the stupid Zoe Quinn and Anita shit.
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>>260392598
>using weebshit

You're even worse
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remove wolf and thats the roster

trust me
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>>260391613
>Clones fucking everywhere
Just terrible.
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>>260392392
I love you
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>>260391613
>No Him.
Fake.
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>>260392581
This thing if real means another Zelda, DK and Metroid rep. What the fuck are you still complaining about?
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>>260392746
That's Luigi.
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>>260391613
> 6 clones of the same character
Absolutelydisgusting.jpg
The rest of the roster makes up for it. Amoeba Boys all day erryday.
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>>260392581
Let me guess, your favorite character didn't get in so you don't like it.

Get off your high horse and realize that this is the most diverse set of newcomers by far.
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>>260392943
not blurry or tilted enough
heres the real roster
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>>260391613
>no Him
>no Femme Fatale
Fake and/or gay.
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>>260393063
Buttercup and Boomer are semiclones tough.
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>>260389224
Isn't this the Wolf render?

>tumblr I got it off of Google
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>>260390385

>Starlow is a copy and paste of her DT artwork when she has a 3D model in the same fucking game

nigga this isn't paper mario
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>>260392967
Dixie Kong will probably be just a clone.
Lucina we know is a clone.
Dark Pit will probably be a clone.
Dr. Mario is guaranteed to be a clone.
Duck Hunt Dog was never asked for and they could have put someone better.
Sakurai played favorites with his own series.
Rosalina is just the thing Nintendo puts into nearly everything.
Bowser Jr is a terrible Mario character.
Shulk is just another anime swordsman.
Wii Fit Trainer was a stupid addition.
Same for Ridley.

>>260393071
>implying diversity=quality
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>>260389224
This blurry ass shit...
Ok I'll bight; whos that next to Yoshi? Rosilina?
Who's next to Shiek?

>Falco still in
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>>260389224
>four Fire Emblem characters

Fake.
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>>260393631
Not even close
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>>260393631
Nah, that Wolf Render has a full on white furry mouth.

Looks more like Wolf from SF64.
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>>260393786
>Ok I'll bight; whos that next to Yoshi? Rosilina?
Yes
>Who's next to Shiek?
Toon Link
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>>260393670
I'm not entirely happy with the roster either but with this kind of reasoning you just sound like you hate everything. What kind of character would you even have liked?
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>>260389224
>Yoshi still in the middle of Mario reps

One job.
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>>260392069
Krystal never had a chance to be anything more than a trophy. The only people who thought otherwise are delusional furfags.
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>>260393786

Yeah, it's Rosalina. Ganondorf is next to Shiek.
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>>260389224

Why is Duck Hunt's nose piercing Falco?
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>>260392967
>Zelda
What are you talking about? Falcondorf?

This is a good roster though. i hope its not a fraud
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>>260394034
He's just that important
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>>260393992
Realistic roster choice or unrealistic?
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>>260392392
Five stars.
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>>260392943
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>>260389224
>Dixie

Well, better than nothing, but worse than every other options.
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>>260389224
this would literally elevate the roster to best-case-scenario-tier
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>>260389474
Also, Dixie's portrait came straight from her Tropical Freeze art.
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>>260394226
ridely?
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>>260391813
Epic :^)
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>>260389224
>3 2D Chorus Kids/men
>Other M Ridley (when the original Melee intro would be the one playable if it happens)

Otherwise, not that bad a fake. Though isn't Impa supposed to be in that 'leak'?
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>>260394272
>Krystal
No, it can always be worse
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>>260389224
Whos next to ganondorf, not sheik the other one you fag.
what the fuck is up with Dixie's mouth? Is she autistic?
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>>260394503
>"Epic :^)," the thing that used to be said to Gematsufags and Ridleyfag theory pictures
>now said to people who show how easy it is to make fake roster images

/v/ has truly fallen.
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>>260394359
If it did, then show me the exact render in the exact post.
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>>260394659
Talkin' bout DK reps here, fag rag.
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>>260389224
What's the full list of characters that one actual leakfag said? Did I miss anything new since he posted the random pic with a list of names?
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>>260394681
Toon Link is next to Ganondorf
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>>260390385
BANDANA WADDLE DEE FAGS
T
F
O
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>>260390021
>Four Pokemon reps
>Mr. Literally Who

Nice try
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>>260392465
You mean Rosalina and 5 triangles?
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That's the Tropical Freeze Dixie art with an open mouth added onto it,
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>>260391613
>Himfags BTFO
He's always been too big.
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>>260394272
better than funky at least
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>>260395004
FOR YOU XD
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Can someone please post the webms of bowser jr/shulk/ganon and lucina please?
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>>260389224
you should have copied this wolf and idna leak from recently.
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>>260389224
I'll bait. Who is this left of DK? K. Rool?
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>>260391131
>No because you can scroll the pages to see the other fighters, otherwise the roster of fighters would be incredibly small, anon.

In other words there's a fighter not visible that he has 1 ko on
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>>260391613
>no him
Fake.
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>>260392465
Nah, cause Luma doesn't have it's own AI, it's literally just an extension of Rosalina. Ice Climbers needs Nana to have a separate AI to work, so w/four Ice Climbers the 3DS has to control eight separate programs at once. Compare to Rosalina, which is four programs for eight models.
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>>260389224
I really want to believe
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>>260395083
How the hell does that DS Lite still work?
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>>260394928
Dixie on this and Dixie on the box art are at different angles fag
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I don't know if I should feel sadness or pity for people who spend time to make a believable fake leak but don't have the brain ressources to understand that ridley instantly invalidates their hard work. It'd be like playing poker with a 12 years old, you're glad you win every game but at the same time you miss out on the thrill of the game
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>>260395137
They could have just drastically altered them. Nana could just copy all of the player's inputs and only require an AI to get back to to Popo, just like Pikmin, They made changes to Olimar, Pit, and Bowser, so I can't imagine why they wouldn't make changes in order to get them to work rather than just cutting them.
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>>260394187
Realistic, someone you mean would make sense to include.
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Look at Diddy's mouth.
Now look at Dixie's mouth.

For Dixie, it doesn't even look like a mouth.
It looks like someone smeared literal shit over her portrait in a way that it looks like her mouth is open. Dixie is such a obvious shop that it literally destroy's the whole picture's possible credibility it could have had going.

Basically, Dixie kills the picture, Wolf turns it into a zombie, and that horrible looking Ridley kills the zombie.
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>>260395187
All operations are done on the bottom screen.

All hardware (excluding the top screen) is on the bottom half.

Why not?
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>>260390860
>ROB in all obvious fakes and supposed legit leaks
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>>260395074
2
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>>260395362
Fox is so shit in Sm4sh. Played at best buy and holy fuck he has no KO power any more.
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>>260395126
How does it feel to be stupid?
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Even if all these character leaks are fake, I can at least say how I hate how bland and plain the 3DS select screen is.
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>>260395095
mr game & watch
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>>260395362
>32% KO'ed by a recovery attack
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>>260395362
...What the fuck

That's fucked up. And they fully intend to keep this in the game, don't they?
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Why do some of these fakes always use Brawl Ridley? I know no one WANTS Other M Ridley but if he got in, that would undoubtedly be the design they'd use.
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>>260389224
Thanks OP, I believe it but I guess we'll see once the game comes out.
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>>260395074
3
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>>260390280
No was cares about ice climbers, I'm so glad those faggots got the boot
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>>260395362
>32 percent KO
You fucked up, Sakurai.
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>>260395487
I guess I just thought that it still needed the top screen to still even turn on and function. But... that's neat, I suppose.

I guess that technically means you could still play regular DS games, but only with no top screen.
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>>260395614
It's what happens when you want a non-scrolling select screen with >40 characters and on such a small screen.
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>>260395545
holy shit
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>>260389224
>dat wolf
>no impa
>that ridley and dixie render
"i'm from nintendo" leakerfags are getting desperated
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>>260395702
keep what?
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>>260395702
Zelda's been shit since Melee and her new attack is garbage. She at least deserves to have a few viable tools.
And how often are you even going to hit with that recovery move anyway?
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>>260395907
Fox basically being completely fucked over. Who the fuck dies at 32%, and from a recovery move?
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>>260389224
how to do you make a shit quality image like this?
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>>260395992
a light character who is right near the blast zone
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>>260395978
Goddamn.
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>>260395779
I'm going to pretend these are fake because I hate the yoshi's island stage.
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Great job retard, you took the remade icons instead of the actual ones.
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>>260395907
Probably the fact that you can KO a heavy character at 32% with a recovery attack.
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>>260396124
>fox
>heavy
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>>260391421
Games never have bugs that involve a computer failing to perform addition of integers.
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>>260394791
>Kiddy
>Baby DK
>Mario Kart Wii Online
>Candy
>the Jungle Beats
>Xananab
>Those OC Kremlings in Barrel Blast
>Those bear fuckers
>Tikis
>Twintails Dixie
They're all worse options, man.
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>Impa will probably be a Shiek clone
>Dixie will probably be a Diddy clone
>Lucina IS a Marth clone
>Dr. Mario is guaranteed to be a Mario clone
>Dark Pit will probably be a Pit clone
>Fuck even Ridley might be a Charizard clone knowing Sakurai

So much for lowering the amount of clones.

All hype for me is gone.
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>>260390021

If Mewtwo is playable, why is Mewone not playable?
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>Palutena and Kirby in the center

It's legit.
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>>260395978
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>>260395978
I see the magnetic edge from Brawl is back at full force.

Bowser wasn't even fucking close to that ledge.

>>260396297
>Why is Mewone not playable?
Because Mewone isn't Nintendo's Lightning.
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So is anyone gonna try to debunk this shit or prance around it and act like a bitch.
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>>260396029
>take image
>open in photoshop
>select Filters > Look Like Shit
>Click "Add pointless glare"
>Click "Add tons of grain"
>Click "Darken everything"
>Select Save as...
>Save under "Legit Sm4sh leak"
>Post to /v/
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>>260396280
Nope.
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>>260395362
>tourneyfags complain about living for too long at high percentages
>Darkrai fixes this by having characters get KO'd at lower percentages, making the game faster
>tourneyfags still bitch and moan
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Smash leaks are like bigfoot now
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It's fake
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>>260391813
>metroid
>not daft punk

we need conan in here
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>>260396291
>Fuck even Ridley might be a Charizard clone knowing Sakurai
his tail looks useful for pinch and sword-like stab attacks
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>>260391613
>No Him
Goddamn
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>>260396476
No one gives a fuck anymore. Everyone is in the acceptance stage.
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>>260390385
>How many times has Pikachu made Zelda KO?
shitty and fake
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>>260395362
The teleport is kinda a shit to aim, so if its a super powerfull attack im ok with it.
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>>260396550
>wow the icons look like a replica of what we know the icons look like
>therefore it must be fake
got anything else?
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>>260396550
no duh, the wolf render looks like shit and the ridley/mewtwo render is too obvious.
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>>260396579
Oh enough with the tail autism, I've heard enough of it ever since the Ridleyfags came back.
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>>260395978
Shit like this is why people hate Brawl, it makes everything too easy for babby. If shit like that comes back in 4 I might lose some hope, that's just disgusting...Theres no "ITS IN DEVELOPMENT T_T" excuse at this point either because its getting near release.
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>>260396632
these additional characters would make me go from disappointed acceptance to satisfied acceptance though
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>>260396781
Actually, the icons in this supposed leak look like the recreated icons, as seen in >>260390580

They should look more like the icons in the actual leak, shouldn't they?
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>>260395701
>>260395702
>>260395816

Why complain? The alternative is everyone living past 100%, which is one of the many reasons that Brawl was so hit competitively.
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>yfw next smash game only adds baby mario baby luigi and baby peach
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>>260396975
Too low isn't any better than too high, anon.
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>>260396937
they look like the recreations of the actual icons

which means they look like the actual icons
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>>260395992
>muh fox

Good riddance.
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>>260396847
geez, sorry, i didn't know you want too hear anything Ridley. You should of let me know beforehand.
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>>260396550
>using the photo that was photoshop someone made of the roster to prove a point that a roster was fake as evidence that another roster is fake
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>>260396923
Cool blog.
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>>260397119

Considering this is only one, hard to land recovery move on a notoriously shit character? I don't agree.
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>>260397157
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Why the fuck is Game and watch next to DK, he should be right in front if ROB and Duck hunt dog
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>>260390280
>>Ice climbers removed because "Double characters would be too complicated in smash run" or some shit
>Multi-man is still in the game, with possible coop so that would mean we could still have two rosalinas or two Pikmin&Olimar or two Chorus Kids and still have 5-6 Multi-men on screen
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>>260396492
How the fuck are Xananab and the Tikis and Kiddy Kong and Kalypso not worse than Dixie? How the fuck is the Dixie clone not worse than Dixie?
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>>260397406
Cool deflection m8
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>>260393670
>I'm a massive pessimist and I'm gonna direct my pessimism toward this leak
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You're all fucking stupid
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>>260391613
>Rowdyruff Boys
FUCK YES.
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>>260397514
>still thinking R&L and P&O are the same thing as IC
No comment on Chorus Kids since we haven't seen them in action
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>>260396291
>Fuck even Ridley might be a Charizard clone knowing Sakurai
Charizard is a fucking manlet. I doubt Ridley wouldn't be as big as, say, Giant Pikachu or something, and I also doubt he'd have something even close to Rock Smash. "Knowing Sakurai" is just using Ganondorf, who is the only outlier for clones.
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>>260397978
How are they not the same thing?
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>>260397836
>not liking clones and shit is pessimism
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>>260397157
nigga what
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>>260392368
>Vivian got in along with /v/
>neo-/v/ got in as a stage boss
damn...
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>>260395545
>>260395247
Why are JR.'s physics and Rollout ripped straight off Jigglypuff?
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>>260392943
top ridley
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>>260397927
Are you dumb? Have you seen Greninja's render and his art?
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>>260398154
> hating against original characters isn't pessimism, guise!!!

Nah, you're just a pessimistic fag.
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>>260393631
>tfw no edge 64/OG wolf
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>>260389224
I noticed something. Look at how the clones are at the end of their respective franchise.
If anything this helps solidify that this might have an ounce of truth, since nintendo always pays close attention to minor details.
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>>260398154
>Everything is either clones or shit
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>>260398132
Ice climbers have always been literally 2 different characters at the same time. Both Popo and Nana had different damage%, and could both hold items. And if you get them separated Nana becomes a CPU and goes around and hits shit
Luma just copys what rosalina does, no matter where it is
Pikmin are literally just items that Olimar uses
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>>260398259
Why's Bowser Bomb the same as Yoshi Bomb? And Egg Roll the same as Rollout?
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>>260398204
uh stop.

You are talking about neo-neo-/v/

you ARE neo-/v/
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>>260393992
Not him but I wanted Andy, Krool, another f-zero rep, isaac, chibi robo, and a pikmin clone character

The only one with even the slightest possibility was andy and maybe a pikmin clone, but the roster still pisses me off to no end due to lucina, dark pit, toon link, etc
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>>260398489
>original
>clone
Pick one.
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>>260395487

But the speakers are on the top screen as well. That thing wouldn't have any sound output unless you used headphones.
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>>260394658
>Other M Ridley
That is clearly Ridley's Brawl model. Samus got her Other M design, and unfortunately so would Ridley.
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>>260396550
Fraid I can't let you do that Starfox....
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>>260398132

Luma is a lot less complicated than Nana. Nana actually has an AI. Sure, it'd be fine if there were only one pair of Ice Climbers on the screen, but 4 pairs on Spirit Tracks with Pokeballs would probably kill the framerate.

Basically, an aspect of the game was held back due to the fact that the 3DS can't do something the GCN can do. The 3DS version was an awful idea. The Wii U version probably won't have the Climbers either because MUH VERSION PARITY (even though the Wii U version is more expensive, comes out later and doesn't even have crossplay with the 3DS version)
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Chorus Faggots can stay out of Kerfuffle.
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>>260398885
That's the fucking point though, retard.

I used the recreated one since the leak in OP's image uses fucking images from the recreated one. Can I make it any more obvious?
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>>260395734
b-b-bbut I think melee ridley looks the best and is scaled right
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>>260398801
Quit strawmanning, faggot. You just hate that your pick didn't get in, and if you can't enjoy the roster, you're gonna make damn sure no one else can with your shit opinion. Grow up.
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>>260399219
How the fuck am I strawmanning, gaylord? Are you seriously defending clones, which only exist to pad the roster and are a result from laziness?
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>>260398895
big deal, there are new characters to try
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I would love this roster, I trust Samurai a hundred percent.
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>>260399010
no u
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>>260395126
You mean -1, right?

Unless you're saying you never graduated primary school.
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Fake as shit. Here's the Ridley render.
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>>260395545
I haven't seen a single gameplay video of Sm4sh where the players didn't completely suck. I know those are almost all COMS but still
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>>260399418

Except Sakurai has said before that clones are just there because they're easy fast additions they can bring up at time crunch.

It's not "if we didn't have clones we'd have 5 new characters", it's 5 clones or nothing.
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>>260389224
>pit and dark pit on opposite sides of palutena
i like it
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>>260395734
>Why do some of these fakes always use Brawl Ridley?
>I know no one WANTS Other M Ridley

Well, there's your answer.
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>>260390935
which zero, anon?
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>>260399167
I think your full of shit but alright haha. And yeah you could have. "It's fake" , yeah real descriptive there ya fuckin dunce.
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>>260398748
>whining about clones because it's not the clone you want
For fuck's sake, man. I do think you will get your Pikmin clone character, Alph, as an alternate set of outfits for Olimar, though.
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>>260398642
>Nana's AI causes FPS drop
lol
Also there are few flaws in what you have said.
Once you use the luma shot the luma moves around the stage freely.
Also Pikmin have similar AI to Nana as they still need to regroup with Olimar when they get split up. Pikmin can also pick up items.
The only real problem with the Ice Climbers being in the game is because of her model. Having that many things running at 60 FPS could cause things to stutter.

>>260398895
>Luma is a lot less complicated than Nana. Nana actually has an AI.
>Nana's AI is causing FPS drop
lol
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>>260398895
>3DS version was mistake cuz one lame character got cut

hahahahaahaha
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>>260396975
>ignoring the Zelda living past 100%
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>>260397027
>they're all metal

Don't forget babby rosalina
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>>260399638
>>260395734
it's clearly other m ridley in the op pic tho
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>>260399860
>Pikmin have similar AI to Nana
nigga are you for real
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>>260399729
There is little difference between 5 clones and no new characters because clones play almost exactly like their originals.

Of course, in the new Smash fanbase clones are fine and totally add value to rosters.
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>>260399861
>inferior version on weaker hardware
>not a mistake
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>>260399729
Nothing is better than garbage. If Melee couldn't get away with clones of actual characters, why should this one get away with black recolours?
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>>260400230
I didn't say the same, I said similar.
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>>260399860
The idea is that Nana acts like another player, and double the data used when playing online. The Ice Climbers would cause lag, not FPS drop.
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>>260400120
Could have been me mis seeing it. It is blurry as fuck
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>>260399790
The point is that interesting clones like black shadow or impa are nowhere to be found, while literal reskin #1 and literal reskin #2 from 3 Game Series and Babby's First FE are shitting up the roster
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>>260400326
The clones are just fanservice which is what Smash has been since the start, there's nothing new about that.
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>>260400326

So, you would have less characters, in return for absolutely nothing?
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>>260399418
I didn't say a fucking thing about the clones. Pretty much half of your post was whining about the original characters. If we actually knew anything about them other than supposed 30 second video clips, you'd be a bit more validated. But no, you just whine about Shulk being a generic anime character, or no one asked for Duck Hunt. Yeah, no one asked for Mr. G&W and he's one of the most wanted veterans.

Just the same we have no idea about the supposed clones except for the fact we know Lucina, Doc, and possibly Dixie will be clones with minor moveset changes. Dark Pit could be completely different.

You don't wanna have fun discussing possible movesets for characters and would rather bitch and moan about them. You're a pessimist. Deal with it.
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>>260399860
>Once you use the luma shot the luma moves around the stage freely.
It still doesnt have its own damage meter, and I don't think it has actual CPU AI because it won't attack anyone unless you tell it do
>Also Pikmin have similar AI to Nana as they still need to regroup with Olimar when they get split up. Pikmin can also pick up items.
But the pikmin don't have CPU AI. They just do the things that Olimar causes them to do. If they get away from Olimar they chase back to him and hit any walls in the way. Also they also dont have a damage meter, and they cant USE the items, only pick them up and give them to Olimar
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GUYS
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>>260400345

Get away? From what? Who is the judge here? Is Melee going to be arrested because internet people are mad Ganondorf is a Cap clone?

It's a video game. It gives you the option to have Mario or Dr. Mario and you're getting mad that it's not just Mario as if the clone's existence creates a time space paradox that erases all the brand new guys in the game.
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>>260400647

So, Smash discussion has gotten to the point that people are crying that clones they wanted aren't in. fuck dark pit though
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>>260400664
Melee's choice was six clones or dedede

A similar choice could have been made for Sm4sh
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>>260400345
I can't work up the energy to even get bothered by most of the clones but Dark Pit offends me.
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>>260391613
>Moko Jono

oh my fuck
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>>260400664
No, just less clones.
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>>260400760
>No Uncle Fester
Fake as shiiit! He was even in the trailer you fruit cake!
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>>260400820
I absolutely hate clones. BUT if there is going to be clones, make interestingones at least
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>Chorus Fuckers
Stop it. This gives you no credibility.
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>>260401162

dude hes an unlockable i swear i just came from sakurais house its real
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>>260400753
>It still doesnt have its own damage meter
It does though
>and I don't think it has actual CPU AI because it won't attack anyone unless you tell it do
The luma moving about the stage without falling off doesn't count as AI?
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>>260400326
>Of course, in the new Smash fanbase clones are fine and totally add value to rosters
>new Smash fanbase
Clones have always been accepted, especially by the competitive autists and "muh og 12"
Jigglypuff, Falco, Ganondorf, Dr. Mario, Snake, Luigi, Toon Link, Wolf, and Lucas are all valuable characters and are on par with or surpass their originals, and if /v/ is anything to go by, the losses of Snake, Wolf, and Lucas show that yes, people do care about clones. Jigglypuff would have disappeared because she stopped being relevant after the fad of kids who did Pokemon shit just to fit in died down, and she stopped appearing altogether. Remember Royfags, by any chance?
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I am 99% sure that Luma and Pikmin being used over Nana has much more to do with the fact their CGI models are about as detailed as Bowser's foot than any AI
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>>260401385
>listing Snake as a clone
That joke's not funny anymore.
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>implying this wont be the final roster.
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>>260395893
impa being covered by cursor
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>>260389224
if this is real, then this roster is such shit
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>>260392294
>not maining Harold Smith
what a fag

EATCH YER PEAS PROFESSOR
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>>260401532
>ice climbers
never has there been a wronger person
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>>260401440
They're also both cuter "pet characters" than Nana is. Pikmin will pick up items and bring them to you. Tell me that's not the cutest shit.
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>>260401532
That is, without a doubt. The BEST roster Smash has ever had, which is why that isn't real.
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>>260397490

My thoughts exactly. Also, is that Bowser Jr. under the cursor?

I still don't buy any leaks including the Chorus Men, but I really wouldn't mind this being the roster. I'm happy enough with everything that's been shown so far and it'd get me Ridley.
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>>260401385
>jigglypuff
>clone
wut
>>
why is wario's icon so shit? it makes me not want to believe anything
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>>260398895
Makes me wish the version exclusive character thing was true.

Hell, I wouldn't mind version exclusive DLC if that meant the Ice Climbers could get on Wii U.
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>>260389224
>Lucas cut
>Wolf not cut
>Ridley
>Dixie
>Mewtwo
>Chorus Kids
I don't even fucking know anymore
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>>260389224
>no mii fighter

lel
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>>260401385
>Jigglypuff a clone

Am i being baited? I didn't continue reading past that.
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>>260402141

He's listed under the ? button
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>>260392862

This. Holy shit.
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>>260390580
The Dark Pit portrait looks exactly like the one in the leak though, and isn't just a shooped and mirrored normal Pit like in the recreation
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>>260401532
>Ridley
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>>260401745
>re-adding three clones and putting in Ridley
>best roster Smash has ever had
>implying Smash ever had such a roster to begin with
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>>260402387
If they didn't cut characters between entries and just kept adding newcomers every new smash would have the best roster smash ever had. If that picture becomes a reality it would have most characters from all previous entries plus newcomers.
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>>260389224
>IC's still cut
>Chorus kids are in
Fakity fake fake
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>>260401532
take out ridley and its pwofect
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>>260392464
not a ridleyfag but I sincerely hope he's playable for the sake of my boner so I can see people like you cry and make me harder
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ok, so have we proven OP's pic as fake yet or no? I just found this thread and am skimming though it.
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>>260402362
>>260402882
>Wanting characters to get cut
And the cancer that is killing smash award goes to these two chucklefucks.
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>>260403042
it is a mystery
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>>260403042
Eh, it's just fun to discuss the possibilities.
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guys this is fake as fuck. Look at Mewtwo's ear. it's moving into Meta Knights square.

Good shop for an autist
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>>260403081
Ridley not being in isn't a cut you ignoramus. He's never been playable in Smash, and never will be .
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>>260403081
but seeing buttblasted ridleyfags would just be too good. even better then the ashleyfag butthurt
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>>260403042
It is fake, /v/'s IQ is just as low as /s4s/'s now. At least they are self aware over there.
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>>260403248
yeah, i am hoping it's real, though. looks pretty good... minus a few characters though
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>>260403368
>>260403378
>Ridleyfags
You really are a cancer.
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>>260402060
>version exclusive characters in a pair of games that are meant to interact with each other
>this is somehow okay
Fucking end yourself. If anything, there should be a downloadable patch for the 3DS version that adds in what, 3 characters, when the Wii U version is released.
>>260402808

>If they didn't cut characters between entries and just kept adding newcomers every new smash would have the best roster smash ever had. If that picture becomes a reality it would have most characters from all previous entries plus newcomers.
If we're all gonna bitch about Dr. Mario and Dark Pit this much, we're gonna bitch more about Roy and Pichu and 9 fucking Pokemon holy shit nigger. If DKfags feel so vindicated already that a lesser series like Star Fox and Fire Emblem and Kid Icarus are given more reps, even if those three are filled with clones, then yeah there's gonna be some uproar. Sometimes cuts are necessary. I'm glad they cut the Pokemon Trainer in favor of just Charizard.
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>>260403525
stay mad ridleyfag, my opinion isnt going to change the roster
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>>260403525
are you this bad at reading comprehension or are you just desperate to bait?
either way, have some candy. maybe it'll make you less stupid.
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can we stop calling each other fags and shit and just try to figure out this "leak"? where did these renders come from? it isn't too obvious... can we use our collective limited knowledge to figure some shit out?
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>>260394503
yeah fuck original content let's keep talking about ecelebs and sjws
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>>260403708
>>260403738
>Not wanting a character in because other people want him
>Not wanting a character in because you want to see the anal devestation
You do realize the anal devestation would happen either way?
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>>260403904
/v/ isn't too smart, Everyone kept playing CSI ZOOM ENHANCE with the previous CSS leak, and STILL think that G&W is cut.
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>>260403329
No it's not. MK's shoe/boot has a natural glare on the bottom that has the same color as Mewtwo's ear. Look at the original leaked roster for reference.
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>>260399638
Look at the position of the wing and eye size. Definitely not the same render
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Why is Polar Bear in Smash Run if there's no Ice Climbers? It's like having Goomba but no Mario.
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>>260391813
Top fucking Kek.
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>>260403904
HOLY SHIT
IT'S
FAKE
IT USES RENDERS FROM A REAL LEAK AND PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY DEBUNKED IT

YOU ARE JUST AS STUPID AS EVERYONE ELSE
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>>260389224
enjoy my good friend shulk :^)
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>>260403904
I love the fact that in this entire thread, no one has been able to identify the Wolf, Chorus Men, Ridley, Dixie and Mewtwo correctly yet.

Just one posted image of a render that matches the photo would disprove it, but nope. We'd all rather just call each other faggots.
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>>260392069
She has chances post Brawl, she is literally the most popular Star Fox character after Fox, deal with it normalfag
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>>260403904
The P1 hand is different.
Huh, makes me wonder, sure adds credibility to this picture.
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>>260404538

This

Even now with the leaked images, we saw a Mother Enemy in Smash run
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>>260404886
>Krystal
>More popular than Falco

Yeah, suck a dick.
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>>260404886
nobody besides furfucks want to remember that krystal exists.
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>>260403368
Could you explain why he never will be? I'd like to hear your obviously deep rooted views and ideals regarding the subject. You appear to be well versed in the issue and far surpass my knowledge of the situation. So please, enlighten me as to why he shall never be playable, if you would?
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>>260401532
>Getting rid of Sakurai's ordering of series.
Shit roster.
Everything is ordered going left to right, top to bottom based on release order with four sections, multi-character franchises, single character series, clones, third party. Shulk is with the third party characters because if it were the clones the roster would look weird.
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>>260391613
>No Him
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>>260405505
too big
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>>260404847
THANK YOU! Someone with a brain! Also, nice pic!
>>
holy shit tho guys
what if sakurai used other m ridley as a base model because it was a clone of the original ridley
and had made ridley a charizard clone
clone character as a clone
it's exactly the sort of shit that fucker would pull
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>>260391613

>3 Clones of Mojo Jojo

Why
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>>260405607
I only ordered them by franchise. I don't really know the intricacies of Sakurai's ordering. If you think you can order it better, feel free.
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>>260394226
kek
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>>260391613

I just realized in 20fucking14 that Sedusa is a pun on Medusa and Seduce
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>>260406234
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>>260405060
>Falco
>Literally who
>A yeah, the copycat duck of Fox in Smash

>>260405156
Whatever dudes, that's why you haters still remeber her, and always claiming she ruined the series.

She is more popular that you bara wolf, bird, frog, rabbit or your dragqueen Leon

Stay Mad faggots.
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>>260406391
>T-THEY INSULTED MY FURSHIT WAIFU
>S-STAY MAD FAGGOTS
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>>260406391
She DID ruined the series.
I hate Kristal character so much
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>>260395137
>the 3DS has to control eight separate programs at once
You have no idea how programming works. Stop posting.
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>>260404886

I guess you don't know then huh?

Let me BTFO You right now.

She's a trophy. That's all. Possibly a stage hazard in the Star Fox stage, but she's a trophy.
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>>260394226
Legit.
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>>260407146
>she and fox also became romantically involved, but no idea if her telepathic abilities were useful there as well
lol
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>>260391613
>not maining Harold
fucking casuals
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>>260394226
dat corner
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>>260405902
I'll consider it pretty funny if at the end of all this shitflinging, absolutely NO ONE can post a single image that correctly matches the renders in this supposed leak (the Ridley pic someone posted doesn't match up), and the leak turns out to be real.

Honestly, /v/ is possibly the worst place to actually do an analysis on any of these leaks since everyone is a retard who's just like "lol ridley, confirmed fake", "muh ice climbers" etc.
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>>260396923
>T_T
Remove yourself
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>>260401565
>>>260393992
Then where's Toon Link?
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>>260407521
So what you're saying is that the picture is real?
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>>260395528
>was mad as hell when I first saw ROB on brawl
>I fucking love him now

Goddam he's such a bro
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Anyone have that fake Kerfuffle trailer with the horrible animation, and it showed Green Mario, Naruto, and Shrek?
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>>260406701
Nope, You just dont accept the fact that Krsytal is second popular character of Star Fox, and she has more chances to appear post Brawl

>>260407049
>Miyamoto becomes Dinosaur Planet into Star Fox Adventures
>Rare becomes kitty loli into mature vixen
>Namco doesn't make StarFox 2
>Star Fox 2 team screw Comand

Yes, sure, Krystal, she FUCKING MAKE the rest Star Fox games

>>260407146
I already know she isn't in Sm4sh, I just say, she isn't a odd option, I accept Wolf had more chances, but like I said, post Brawl she has more chances (female and original movelist)
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>>260401532
This is my bet, minus Ridley.
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>>260389224
>Still no Ice Climbers

Go fuck yourself
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>Ridley

INTO THE TRASH IT GOES!
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>>260407764
Looks like he's covered by the cursor, not Impa.

Look at that glorious gold hair.
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>>260408019
>post Brawl
What a faggot I am, I mean pre Brawl, I should stop posting here

____:^)____
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>>260408402
>>260401565
Impa was never a possibility. Anybody who believed the "leaker's" word about the 5 remaining slots fell hook line and sinker.
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>>260408630
Ridley's in though.
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>>260401532
This is why I'm glad Sakurai doesn't listen to you faggots. I bet you'd want Pichu over WFT too.
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>just found out there's a Direct tomorrow at 7 AM
I'm gonna wake up early so this better be BTFO-tier.
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>>260389224
Anyone else think the character select screen is the ugliest shit ever? It's just colourful boxes.
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>>260407849
No, I'm saying it might not be real, just everyone in this thread (and on /v/, really) is too busy calling each other faggots and stroking their own e-peens to actually try and find a render to just say "oh hey guys, OP pic is bullshit, go to bed."

NeoGAF or Reddit or something has probably already proved it fake for all we know. This is how shitty /v/ has actually become.
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>>260392069
http://smashboards.com/threads/krystal-for-ssb4-starfox-wii-u-confirmed.324255/page-134
i hadn't realized there was such a dedicated fanbase that actually believed Krystal would make it in
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>>260408998
it's gonna be all shitty 3ds jrpgs. it's japan only
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>>260409363
Krystalfags are worse than Ridleyfags.

When the game comes out and Krystal is deconfirmed as just a trophy or something, they will literally create threads trying to find some hidden hack or something that makes Krystal playable. They will try to search through the data to find any remnants or hints of playable Krystal. They will create and actually try long and ridiculous methods of unlocking Krystal that "no one has found yet".

At least Ridleyfags will just put their spiked tails between their legs and wait for Smash 5 if he's confirmed as just a boss.
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>>260400760
>All the locked characters are Mario
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>>260389224
>sakurai, the egotistical bastard, puts his waifu and bishonen at the center

Welp, that proves it. It's legit, alright.
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>>260408087
You might as well bet on Ridley to. I mean, why not? Muh face value?
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>>260392392
Someone make homer Donkey Kong in this
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>>260409818
I think I am going to go kill myself...
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>>260409818
Oh fuck that webm actually scared the shit out of me.
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>>260409818
>Think your filename is ironic
>Suddenly Krystal rolls in
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>>260409818
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>>260408278
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>>260409818
w-what the actual fuck
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>>260410403
>>260410283
>>260410227
>>260410205
>>260410179
you guys aren't ready for part 2...
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>>260391038
>He doesn't know about Giga bowser and master hand
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>>260410757
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>>260410757
This should be enough to authorize his execution.
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Every time I see Ridley in these roster pictures I just laugh because I know it's already fake.
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GUYS
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>>260390280
>>Ice climbers removed because "Double characters would be too complicated in smash run" or some shit

Can I have some source on this?
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>>260411426
is this legit?
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>>260404248

Those are the best part of any leaks.

Even if they do end up being fake watching the warped logic people go through to convince themselves of that is great.
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>>260411426
HAPPENING
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>>260391216
Is that you, Tien?
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>>260391613
No Mayor of Citiesville again? Ugh.
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>>260390580
>That Mother 3 remix
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>>260408019
>she FUCKING MAKE the rest Star Fox games
Read a book, you illiterate shit stain
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>>260411426
HOLY FUCK KNUCKLES CONFIRMED
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>>260389224
THIS IS IT.
THIS IS THE ROSTER.
EVERYTHING ABOUT IT FEELS RIGHT, AND EVERYTHING IS REASONABLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE KNOW.
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST.
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>>260411257
Why is that, anon-kun? I want to know why too! Please tell me.
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>>260391613
>Wanting him

Hes too big guys
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>>260411426
My Bloody Valentine confirmed!
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>>260407521
Yeah, but I'm hoping it is real. I am a Mewtwofag, and also just seeing Ridley in sounds like things on here will be hilarious for quite some time.
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>>260414254
Besides Ice Climbers getting cut for fucking Dark Pit/Dr. Mario, I hope it's true too.
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>>260415004
Keep the Jolyne love coming :3
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>>260395362
that shit is hard as hell to aim, so im fine with it doing massive damage. Especially since it's extremely obvious + if you miss you're free-falling into your opponent's lap to get fucking spanked. It's risky as hell.

King Dedede's hammer rocket in Brawl could KO at around 45% anyway, and people complain about brawl having way too high KO percentages
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>>260405060

She was one of the top most requested characters in Sakurais Polls, get fucked.
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>Dr. Mario is the same as in >>260390580 instead of the actual leak
Dumb fuck
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>>260416301
Which polls? Keep in mind the Brawl poll results were never made public.
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>>260416704

The Brawl poll he held during Brawls development, granted it was years ago, but I believe she still holds as much as Ridley, Issac, and a few others do.
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>>260416301
I really never understood the appeal of StarFox 64

how can a corridor shooter even be a full game? that's like minigame-tier shit, or at least an arcade game. The kind of thing that's fun for 5 minutes every 6 months. How do you make an entire game of just that?

In fact, it IS a minigame in a lot of games. Kingdom Hearts has the gummi ship which is the same thing, and that sucks complete dicks, but it's tolerable for the short amount of time you have to do it. The Wonderful 101 also has segments like that and those get stale before theyre even over, and they only last a few minutes
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>>260416301
hey, don't forget the Snes fags for Mario and Metroid
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Actually, I'm now a bit skeptical now that I see that the Dr. Mario in OP's pic looks like the recreated one. They're two completely different angles. How sad. I was really looking forward to this being real.
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>>260418874
it's almost as if full games are more fleshed-out than small segments intended to break-up the main gameplay
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>>260419190
>Super Metroid's fanbase
literally worse than bronies
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>>260409264
Reddit already proved it bullshit. Jigglypuff is from a Redditor's recreation.
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>>260389224
Fucking retard forgot to move Yoshi.
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>>260394658
>when the original Melee intro would be the one playable if it happens
That delusion.

Other M Ridley has the easiest proportions to work with.
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>>260395083
I always wanted to do that but i though the top screen was needed for the ds to work in in the first place?
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>>260420574
it is, my top screen broke off and the entire unit doesn't work anymore

also even if you somehow did get it to work youd get no sound
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>>260389224
how can you fuck up a simple photograph
put the 3ds on a table, light the table, take picture

it's a miracle you know how to operate a computer
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>>260394226

OMG GOKU CONFIRMED
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>>260391613
What a rip off of this glorious roster
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>>260397157
that hurt to read
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>>260422869
Gonna main the fuck out of Patchy.
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>>260418874
Rail shooters and shmups are fun as hell, anon.
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>>260420713
He's not the photographer. He's only leaking the photo.
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>>260422869
>2 spongebob clones
dropped
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