Anybody else here ever teach themselves a language via video games?
I had a few shitty German classes in high school, but I've always wanted to learn German still. I just found my old supercard dstwo, and loaded up Pokemon Swarze, and over the past week, I've been using it to learn German.
I use a German dictionary, and refuse to pass by any text in the game until I understand it fully.
I'm using the dictionary less and less now, and much of the dialog (and all of the battle text) I understand now.
This is pretty cool. I've never picked up any language this quickly before, and I know a few others (Spanish, French, some Russian, some Japanese). Why don't schools use some method like this?
I can't afford that shit. I live in Amurrikkka where education costs more than getting your teeth fixed.
But still, immersion is the best tool to learning a language, and video games are probably the best option outside of living somewhere where it's the primary language, given how it's an interactive medium.
>Why don't schools use some method like this?
there's a book about a method similar to yours called The Ignorant Schoolmaster by Jacques Ranciere
I'm actually studying to be an english teacher in an spanish speaking country, and during our philosophy classes we discussed this book.
language immersion is mch better than just classes, anyone knows this
except in cases like japanese or most other languages that don't use the latin alphabet, that shit is just alien
Wenn du wirklich Deutsch lernen möchtest spiel NICHT Pokemon. Das ist ein dummes Spiel für Kinder und die Dialoge/Story sind viel zu einfach und sinnlos.
Spiel am besten etwas mit einer tieferen Story und Dialogen z.b. Mass Effect, Dragon Age oder Warcraft 3.
Gruesse aus Stuttgart
so where these games effective at all? I remember trying the Spanish one when it first came out but i eventually lost interest in it and left it for a real game
Are there any other, more effective game based language games out there?
finally a thread i can post in!
> be Russian
> know shit all english
> play Myth
> mission with an horde of spooky skellingtons
> beat them after shitloads of effort
> learn that the objective was "Escape"
Well, obviously you need some sort of basis before jumping into immersion. You have to know the basics about grammar and shit first. It's good to hammer in vocabulary and context though.
I don't really give a shit about story and dialog here. I tried to jump into Das Glasperlenspiel and was pretty lost. Thought it would be good to start more simply.
Also, I did manage to read your entire post without looking up any words, and I don't think I would have been able to do that a week ago, so I think I'll stick with this for now. There's a reason that children first learning their native language don't start with Joseph Heller novels.
I think any more simple RPG would work just as well. Probably visual novels too (inb4 Unteralterbach).
Oh yeah, I get that, I was just clarifying that I don't think that you could realistically get by from the start with just video games, unless you're an actual genius, like that kid who taught himself 11 languages solely from different translations of the bible.
>$500 a semester
>$1000 if I do it online
>Not that expensive
Man, $500 is half a month's rent. I'm not a poorfag, but I'm not rich enough that $500 is something I can drop on wanting to take a semester of a language, especially when you need upwards of 4 semesters to get fluency, and even that's far from ideal because it takes 2 full years.
>Trying to learn Japanese
>Jouyou kanji and grammer giving me trouble
>Occasionally, the language sounds same-ish, bolstering the confusion further.
>Attempt to read something in Japanese in video games, but just ends in me skipping the dialogue in frustration.
Fucking hell, how do I do this, /v/?
doesn't work for alien languages, fuckface
works for stuff like german because you have a base idea of how the letter sound, and there's enough similarities between english and german
put the effort in, fuckface. Focus on Grammar, especially particles. Nouns, verbs, adjectives can be extrapolated or looked up.
Also playing something you already know by heart.. say Pokemon RBY makes it easy to understand
my college thesis is actually about how the simpler language and text techniques used in pokemon games help people learn other languages.
i will try using pokemon to learn japanese if i find a easy to use kanji dictionary.
but a easy to use kanji dictionary is kinda difficult to find
>mfw i can finally understand enough japanese to play super robot taisen without a guide
>take spanish 1 in 9th grade
>learn the very fucking basics at the beginning of the year
>rest of the school year is spent doing fucking nothing
>come to class and just hang and talk with my friends literally the whole time
>sometimes we had discussions as a class on random shit not pertaining to spanish and watched movies
it was fun but not productive at all. spanish is gay anyways.
Seriously? We (in QLD) learned German from Yr 4 onward, and once in highschool, the German elective involved doing everything in German. We'd watch dubs of movies, play games/vidya, and read books.
Maybe you just had a shitty school?
I plan to eventually.
>Villager banter good for conversation learning
Maybe get into VNs?
If the main focus is the text, it would miss the point to skip it.
That's how I learned Japanese, anyways, supplemented with Anki and grammar from Tae Kim.
You could try Baldr Sky. It has relatively simple language and it's also a very fun game.
I bought Tales of Symphonia in France fully convinced I could change languages. I had to learn it the hard way and ask my parents for every single french word I didn't know.
Taught me a shitload though. Try doing the fucking wind dungeon puzzle with the legs arms head and colours and shit.
JAMBE VERT, MAIN JAUNE, TÊTE ROUGE BITCHES
Yes, I learned English by playing Guild Wars 1. You could just press right Ctrl to change all the in game text to english from your language.
>educations is fucked and always will be
Abbott $$$ are literally sending me to go and study over in Japan for 8 months, all expenses paid with $4000 worth of reallocation funds.