>Game cost $60
>DLC costs $12 for 50% more content
So why are people complaining? The Price per track value went down.
Ok, i'll admit I thought it was only 2 characters, but still, IMO, Dec should be free since I already gave Nintendo some hadd earned shekels, they shouldn't want more because they made more tracks, we already gave them money.
I so fucking hate DLC
Charging extra for characters that should have been in the game sucks so much.
DLC should be about extending the life of the game, like expansion packs used to be years and years ago.
>characters that should've been in the game
>Link, Villager, Isabelle
>karts representing other franchises
>shitty reskins that are basically thrown in as extras
>extending the life of the game
>somehow adding another game's worth of tracks isn't extending the life of the game
Faggot go home.
So people are finally starting to realize the truth
Entitled pricks like you give me so much hate for the world.
Buying this right away because I know I will anyway. Also I get those new Yoshis and Shy Guys.
I just mocked this up.
More than likely, yes. Adding character skins or something for compatibility with people who didn't purchase them is one thing, adding entire new tracks is a whole 'nother matter.
>6 characters(not including the Shy Guy and Yoshi recolors)
>8 new vehicles
>16 tracks, 4 cups worth
That's an incredibly good deal. Why should it have been free? I mean, if this was Microsoft or Sony, this would probably be 20-30 bucks.
Based Ninty, I swear man. This is how you do DLC.
>people defending cut content because it's Nintendo
>Make a new mario kart with less content than previous versions
>Charge money for new versions
ITT: DLC is okay now because Nintendo is doing it.
They seriously need to sort out the space issue on the Wii U. What happens in 5 years time when they no longer support downloads?
32GB just isn't going to cut it for all the games that might have dlc.
>There are niggers on this board that will shitpost this to the death, but defend shit on other non-Nintendo games for doing the same
You can still play the old courses just fine. Once the "NEW DLC" smell wears off people will stop playing them so much.
But yea, I agree that it does suck for people who don't wanna buy it at first.
Its ok if it is done right.
>NSMBU and NSLU
$20 DLC with 120 new courses(And new physics)
$15 for 6 courses. Base game price was dropped $10. Still had more content than any other Mario Golf
This isn't $5 for 3 cars or $10 for 3 new maps. Or worse Costume DLC.
I'll gladly listen if you can name DLC that has come out
and cost moneythat matches up to what nintendo is doing now.
I just want to know if this will be usable online
I can see characters going online just fine, but people not having the tracks is gonna destroy the community if you cant play with people who dont have the DLC
>Diddy Racing expansion pack
>Kirby's Air Ride expansion pack
>F-Zero expansion pack
how would you feel
>people saying that Nintendrones defend DLC because Nintendo is doing it confirmed for having not played the game
The game has 8 full cups and a shittonne of characters. $12 after the fact for more courses and fan favourite characters is totally worth it. We're not defending the DLC because it's Nintendo, we're defending the DLC because it was done right.
>rips content from main game
>"don't fear goyim, here, you can a have a good selection of characters and tracks for just a few more bucks"
>"thank you based nintendo, please take my money"
Because they probably are using the current info they have.
3 characters+4 karts+8 tracks~1gb(Probably less so a round up)
MK8 is 5gb itself with 30 characters, 32 tracks, and the backend
Consumers are retarded so its better to talk in smaller words.
I work for a computer repair company, its 10x simpler to just use whole numbers like "This file takes up 1gb" instead of "This file takes up 988mb"
I've only seen this kind of thing happen in one other game, and it was Sony Smash. Online random matches were able to select the dlc stages even if you didn't have them. It's when you wanted to do inhouses do some rounds with a few buddies in the same room that you were required to own the stages.
Hopefully Nintendo isn't dumber than the incompetent fucks at Superbot and SSM.
>Isabelle from Animal Crossing got into Mario Kart 8
>King Boo and Petey Piranha didn't
The problem is this is how it always STARTS
DLC didn't start with day one weapon skins and like one multiplayer map for $20. It started as things like this
The end of the day, you just got to draw the line somewhere and people drawing it here are in no way less correct then those that draw the line at mapacks
The real mystery is why do you care so much that they're not supporting it?
>"It's ok when my squeaky Nintendo friends do it!"
Nintendo fans are the fucking worst.
nintendo: its ok to do DLC, AND force you to buy extra hardware to support this DLC
blizzard: here's a different colored mount, of which you can get by the hundreds for free already in game
which one was hated with pure vitriol?
>It is now possible to play offline races where 2/3 of the entire race is made up of Mario and Peach
>dlc done right
Remember when MKDS added 16 extra tracks, a mission mode and bossfights? Remember how it didn't use this as a justification to jack up the price?
Now MKU adds 16 tracks (after removing boss fights, missions and battle courses) and suddenly that makes the game worth $77
You gotta understand the jewish mindset. All downloadable content, even after the game has been out for a while, is retroactively known as a fact to be content cut from the main game just so they can sell it to you for more than the base price.
This content is an integral part of the main experience and they're only making it separately so they can charge you for it. DLC is always bad no matter how much it adds, because adding more content obviously means they took that content out from that completed full game before they released it, every time.
If you're going to shit post, do it thoroughly.
>criticizing Nintendo fans with an Arino reaction image
>nintendo stoops to dlc and even offers preorder bonuses for it
Where did it all go so wrong, bros?
No you idiots. Read what I'm posting.
I don't mean "it" as in DLC itself but instead when you draw the line. You make excuses, "this is worth it" "this isn't" I mean fuck even looking at horse armor, it was garbage but some of the other oblivion DLC wasn't.
The point is so long as you consume it expect more. Good? bad? that's unclear, probably examples of both are on their way
Both from Nintendo, the company many swore just a bit ago and even supported by some simply because of the lack of DLC. Now they got it and some will say its okay others wont
Again, the real issue is why get upset? If someone doesn't like it that's just as fine as you lot enjoying it
>get on the subway
>fee is 5 dollars
>gladly pay, as it will take you to your destination
>halfway there the train stops
>everyone who doesnt pay the extra 2 dollar DLC price get off, you are no longer allowed to ride the rest of the way
>its ok because the train is nintendo
>6 new characters, 8 new vehicles and 16 new tracks.
This is DLC done right. I don't know why you faggots are complaining. EA would have charged $30 for each pack and $50 for a season pass.
Why the fuck aren't the mario kart, party, and sports games just Nintendo themed instead of just Mario? I kind of get before Galaxy, but now the Mario games are so varied that the spin-offs seem unnecessary when we get Mario in different flavors like 2 or 3 times a year.
>Enjoyed the idea of Honey Queen in Mario Kart 7 but preferred lighter characters
>Mario Kart 8 is incredibly unbalanced toward the heaviest of characters
>No more Honey Queen, just Bowser, Morton, and Wario.
I want Honey Queen back.
Yeah but "DLC is DLC" according to /v/, and it's all bad no matter what.
There can be GOOD DLC. Every company releases good DLC from time to time.
People are giving Nintendo shit for something that the rest of the industry has been doing for an entire generation.
This whole "It's only okay when Nintendo does it" is retarded. Nintendo is capable of making both good and bad DLC, just like everyone else.
For a Mario Kart game, which typically ships with 32 tracks, 12 bucks for 16 more tracks is a fucking great deal.
>Green Baby Mario
>Pink Gold Peach
>Baby Space Peach
And that's not even including Fat Mario, Fat Peach, and Fat Baby Peach.
Because they've actually started adding enough shit to the Mario universe and drawing from obscure enough corners of it that we get an interesting variety. The Koopalings seem like a nice start to me, even if there are kind of a lot of them to include all of them as characters.
I am completely fine with and proof that Nintendo knows what the fuck they're doing.
Mario Kart 8 has the same amount of tracks as most previous Mario Kart games, as well as about the same amount of racers. Sure, the Battle Mode is gone, but still, I'd say Mario Kart 8 was a finished product.
Now, this DLC is literally what it is: downloadable content. You get more of the game if you enjoyed the core experience, which was not ruined at all by the way.
>For a Mario Kart game, which typically ships with 32 tracks, 12 bucks for 16 more tracks is a fucking great deal.
What if it came out 6 moths later with 48 tracks
That would be a better deal
>Because they've actually started adding enough shit to the Mario universe and drawing from obscure enough corners of it that we get an interesting variety
oh yeah, love those NSMB games
>Not Kirby who has had his own racing game
>Not Captain Falcon who has had nothing but racing games
>Dry Bowser of all the Mario characters they could have chosen
Isabelle, Villager, and Link are cool though
This fucking hypocrisy.
>oh my god DLC done right
>I hope Nintendo is rewarded for doing dlc so well
>any other company would charge double!
>I can't wait to give Nintendo my money!
Nintendo fans are literally the worst.
Sadly that's an example of a rare exception and far from the norm. People constantly bitch and moan that Nintendo doesn't act enough like the competition. Be careful what you wish for.
I don't follow the logic. Games don't get better the longer they're in development. They aren't fucking oranges.
The only reason they're even making DLC is because the game sold very well.
>Nintendo doesn't do DLC
>wahh gotta wait for another title for more content
>Nintendo does DLC
>wahh muh promises, DLC should've been free
Come the fuck on, Nintenbros.
>get on the Nintendo subway
>fee is 5 dollars
>gladly pay, as it will take you to your destination
>"If you want, we can take you to a tropical resort, give you food to go along with it and some bitches to fuck too! Remember, it's 2 extra dollars and completely optional."
>Other companies' trains
>halfway there the train stops
>everyone who doesnt pay the extra 2 dollar DLC price get off, you are no longer allowed to ride the rest of the way
Some are but I'd say this is an example of DLC done right. Given the release schedule, this is clearly new content that they're working on. I'll gladly pay for DLC like this along with some other good ones like Far Cry Blood Dragon and RDR Undead Nightmare.
They clearly have several of the assets ready. How does finishing up eight tracks and three characters take six months when pretty much everything else is already done? How the hell did the three Mercedes cars take two months?
>implying they aren't saving that for future DLC packs
I might just be Ridleyfagging, here, but they even had teased at Kirby in Mario Kart in one of the trailers for Smash Bros (oddly).
I love expansion packs.
This is an expansion pack that adds as many tracks as Mario 64 did, only for 12 dollars.
For the first time ever, I get to add new tracks to a Mario Kart game without having to wait an entire generation for the next Mario Kart title.
This is what DLC was supposed to be. This is okay, because Nintendo is doing it.
>Games don't get better the longer they're in development.
>Game development does not follow the rules of timespace.
It was implied by your stinginess and unwillingness to pay for something you would enjoy. You may not value it as much as somebody who likes MK, but it does seem worth it for a lot of people. You sound like a poorfag.
>/v/ makes a billion threads on why Smash roster is shit
>/v/ makes a billion threads on how the Snash roster is fake
>/v/ makes a billion Zoe Quinn threads (I understand it's important but having 5 threads dedicated to one thing is retarded)
>/v/ makes a billion sales threads
>/v/ makes a billion twitter threads
>/v/ makes a billion Sony BTFO threads
>/v/ makes a billion anti-weeaboo threads
>now all these threads even though it's DLC done right
Why do I even come here any more? This is all /v/ has been these past few days.
>Bringing up completely unrelated Smash Bros stuff as "teasing" something else entirely
Yup, delusional enough to be Ridleyfagging alright.
The Rosalina trailer was because Kirby is star themed just as Rosalina and Luma are, and Mario Kart 8 was coming out soon which Rosalina is in. That's all.
Well Smash for Wii U is pretty much done and they were working with Bandai Namco for that. Pokemon is being worked on by Game Freak. The only other confirmed winter game they have is Captain Toad and maybe finishing up work on the amiibo.
yes, we are. FE:A doesnt count because of the time between its japanese and american releases; of fucking course it was going to have DLC by that point and the fact that they gave away the first few maps for free shows that they understood the right way to DLC
Tell me about it. Who the FUCK is gonna be retarded enough to pay so much fucking money just for some shitty characters and shit. $12 is TOO motherfucking expensive. Some of us have bills, kids, medical and car insurance, mortgages, pay taxes. Shit, with $12, I could refinance my car AND my home! That $12 could go towards my 401K AND my retirement fund!
There was a time when DLC was actually something that was actually meant to enhance the value of the game which you purchased. It's only been since the last generation or so did companies decide to cut games into pieces and call it "DLC."
These days, ANYTHING that has any sort of DLC is vilified on /v/. So much so that a lot of people have forgotten that there was actually a meaningful purpose for it a long time ago, and it involved extending the life of a game and enhancing it's value.
Nintendo is doing this right. Nintendo is a company that doesn't follow trends. That's why people both love and hate the company.
Fucking imbecile, don't you realize that the economy is in a downward spiral, companies are laying off THOUSANDS of employees due to outsourcing, our fucking president is BLACK ( I shit you not), and we're soon to go to war with the North Koreans?
Save ALL of your money for future generations, if you want them to survive the America of the future.
>You'd need to buy the game to get enough space to use all the weapons.
I bought the game in 2007, doofus
It came with the Orange Box and I've gotten endless free content ever since.
But apparently TF2 does dlc wrong and Nintendo does it "right"
double dipping on the first NA release?
All the dlc content was finished by the time FE came out in NA. Its ridiculous that it wasn't included and even more ridiculous that people will defend it.
>Mario Kart Super Circuit
Right, because reusing the same courses from Super Mario Kart in 2D is the same as modeling and designing new courses in 3D
They do it from selling keys for crap that you're supposed to be able to unlock. Also, they take maps and item models from fans and sell them back. Incremental updates and DLC are not the same thing.
By attaching a price to it, they're set to get it finished at a specific time. When it's free, they get it done whenever they feel like it.
The characters are just the head-turner, the real attraction is the half a game worth of tracks
If you don't count battlemode gone, having 2/3 of the roster of 7, incredibly lazy shit like babies, and ignore that all the "new" content was just idea stolen from Sonic All-Stars Transformed, yep it's the usual amount.
What if Mario spin-off games always had other Nintendo characters in it from now on?
I'll be honest, MK8 is the first Mario Kart I've owned since Double Dash. Excuse my ignorance, but boss fights and missions sound stupid and really out of place in a Mario Kart game. How did those even work?
The amount of work it takes between the two is worlds apart. Your argument is still nonsense because they already had the other tracks done. Done as in they already knew the layout, they knew what to put in, they used assets from other levels they designed; the work was already done. They just had to work it in.
>How did those even work?
kind of a shittier version of world tour mode in SASRT
It was basically there to help you master the mechanics and the stages through various challenges.
Is it literally just Link in the pack? Or are there other Zelda characters?
>all superior racing games
>all dead forever
>all that's left is Mario
Where's my Captain Falcon?
>ignore that all the "new" content was just idea stolen from Sonic All-Stars Transformed
Actually, Sonic All-Stars Transformed just took the "Land-Sea-Air" mechanic from Diddy Kong Racing if you wanna play that number.
I could not help but notice your png was not optimized anon.
I have optimized your png.
Your png is now optimized.
I kinda figured that was the case. I also suspect that F-Zero GX gets hyped up so much around here largely because of its reputation as a difficult game that's punishing to newcomers.
Well aren't you bold
But I prefer it this way
Please explain to me out of all DLC we've gotten that Nintendo is suddenly the bad guy for doing it correctly?
We've had Horse Armor in Oblivion, on disc characters for SFxT, large amounts of day one DLC for Bioware games, and so on.
How is 16 tracks for 12 bucks a bad deal?
Explain in detail.
>Link and Villager
>F-zero is just a cart
You know what, I'm fucking done. Fuck you Nintendo. Fuck you for not including god damn Captain Falcon, and fuck you for for only acknowledging F Zero's existance through a shitty kart racer. God damn I mad.
>I also suspect that F-Zero GX gets hyped up so much around here largely because of its reputation as a difficult game that's punishing to newcomers.
You couldn't be anymore of a retarded faggot, dear god just kill yourself now.
Not the creative tracks designs? or the plethora of content? or the pumping tunes? Or the fact that we're still discovering secrets about it (like the legitimate way to unlock of the AX tracks)
These are probabyl coming from the same retards who say the gamepad is forced as well, despite the WiiU having more and less shitty controller options than the PS4 or the bone.
That's total bullshit. They act like Assist trophies that you can level up.
>I'm sure it's a good racing game but I still think that the difficulty level is part of the reason that it's popular on /v/.
Seriously fucking kill yourself you faggot. PLAY THE FUCKING GAME.
It's praised because it's a fucking amazing racing game with shit loads of content and a balanced learning curve that rewards skill. Not because "HURRR ITS HARD XD"
Is this the first time that Nintendo has ever done DLC? Is it the first time that they've ever done DLC that you have to pay for?
To my knowledge, they've never done anything like this before and I think Nintendo of all people are huge fucking faggots for charging for the DLC. Considering how MK8 is so short, this shit should be free bonus content. Nintendo should be like Valve and give us shit all gameplay bonus content for free.
>an evil doppleganger of a mario recolor
>tfw the sheer stupidity of this character just hit me
People hype up F Zero GX because saying that you play it gets you cool points on /v/.
It's just like people in fighting game threads that dick ride Third Strike or Guilty Gear.
>DLC comes out months after game is completed and released
>content is not on disc and was actually created after development on game was done
>does not dramatically change the experience so that those who opt out of it have a lesser one
>is reasonably priced
This is how the idea for DLC was originally conceived. You take a game that is already completed and out on the market, and if people want additional content, you create some extras and allow those who want it to purchase it. It was only in the seventh gen when publishers started doing pre-order DLC, disc-locked content, and developing DLC alongside the main game that it got the stigma it now has. This is DLC done right people.
Wario isn't much better.
Wario is actually nintendo's lightning. He's had three separate series based on him. none of them reached much sucess and have been devolving in quality lately. He's been shoehorned into more games than Rosalina ever was too.
Wow, you are fucking lazy with that hedgehog recoloring. You could've zoomed in and meticulously went around every quill and could've omitted the blades of grass in front of the hedgehog and then the recolor could've looked decent.
But, I mean, if that's the best you can do, I just feel sorry for you.
>Nintendo's first time doing DLC
>forgetting about New Super Mario Bros U
>forgetting about Fire Emblem: Awakening
>forgetting about Pikmin 3
>forgetting about Mario Golf World Tour
They've done it with
>Fire Emblem Awakening
>New Super Mario Bros. 2
>Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Gates to Infinity
>New Super Mario Bros. U
>Mario Golf World Tour
And I'm pretty sure others.
Do you enjoy sounding retarded?
If it's anything like Mario Golf, the DLC courses will just be locked if every player doesn't have them. Characters will be small file sizes, so they should be selectable regardless
But you know the extra maps will be about as good as the ones already in MK8, for a fraction of the price per map.
If you thought MK8 was good fun for your buck, Nintendo must really drop the ball in the simple task of doing more what they already did for the DLC to be worse.
Given how fast we see CoD/Forza/etc releases, it would have been a new $60 game.
The fact that we live in a world where $12 for some extra tracks is a good deal really pisses me off. Specially because if this was PC in the glory days, everyone would be playing tracks they made and shared.
So you think Nintendo made 160 tracks? Also, isn't waiting six months to release the first DLC kind of a really fucking long time if they were actually doing what you said?
I guess I shouldn't care because this is obvious shitposting, but holy fuck this is dumb.
>tfw White Wii U owner
What are my options?
I honestly wouldn't give a fuck about paid DLC if I knew it would be permanent on my retail copy unlocked. Some day the console will break and nintendo will stop the download serivice, and I will have an incomplete game left.
You do know what you said typically applies to all video game franchises right?
At least 20% to 40% of cut content from one game gets placed in the sequel.
The only difference you're going to pay another $60 to access the rest of it.
I seem to remember a lot of clamor for this guy. Are any of you happy he's in?
>giving you 50% of the original game's content for 20% of the initial cost
I don't care how much you Nintendrones try to defend this shit, paid DLC is trash no matter what. Why couldn't they just add this stuff to the game before it was released? Or why not just give it away for free to all your loving fans who made you what you are.
You already got your money's worth, you dipshit. You bought MK8 at the time, as is, for the money you spent.
You don't need to pay more. You got what you paid for. Nintendo doesn't have a gun to your head saying 'buy this pack'.
Fucking retards like you people shouldn't be breathing my oxygen.
>MK7 comes out and introduces air, water and land modes
>All stars racing transformed comes out and rips it off
>MK8 comes out and does what MK7 did
>Somehow MK8 is ripping off all stars transformed.
are you fucking kidding me? what the fuck do you think these dlcs are? they're EXPANDING the content of the game. you got a full game's worth of characters, kart parts and tracks already. now, 6 months after, there are more tracks, characters and kart parts to EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE GAME. you're bitch about what it's supposed to be, when it already fits the description. i swear to god, some of you people try way too hard to complain about everything. fuck off.
How do I even get the mercedes DLC. I'll wait to buy this stuff till later but I know the Mercedes stuff and patch comes tomorrow is it an auto gift or do I have to redeem something somewhere
Wait... Nigga this IS extending the life of the game!
What does 50% more tracks mean to you?!? The game is about racing on tracks you are literally getting more life out of your game jesus shit.
>thing I want
>has extra stuff with it that I'm not particularly interested in
>guess I'm not getting it
well idiots will be mad. Ignoring Smash Falcon. Ignoring that design of that "kart" is based on SNES F-Zero. (Did you see wheels? cause I didn't)
Yeah, get more mad. Punch someone cause of your own stupidity. It'll help you, for sure.
A pack ditching the characters, reskins, and karts with just the tracks for $6 would be welcome. But I don't want to pay extra for content I don't want, period.
No they said they will never make on disk DLC or DLC that adds no value
By that logic you shouldn't have bought the base game either since it forced you to get a bunch of characters and karts in addition to the tracks instead of giving you the option to buy a cheaper version with only Baby Daisy
I know you main her, faggotin it.
I did say 'pay extra'. I accept what's in the base game for what it is. But additional DLC packs of assorted content where you're forced to pay for things you don't want just don't seem like a good deal to me. I'd actually like to try the new tracks, but I can do without if it means forced bundles.
And no, the baby characters are awful.
>16 tracks doesn't worth 12$.
Well, I don't know anon. Let's forget about karts and characters.
If they are worse than original MK8 ones - maybe price doesn't worth it. If they are on level of the MK8 tracks - hell yeah worth it. Cheaper than 1$ per track. Seems alright to me.
Even without considering constant bonuses via Deluxe promo.
But just wait till footage of tracks is there.
It's literally an expansion pack for the game, it makes sense that it adds a little of everything the base game has. Hell, they're even releasing a pack of karts for free, so you know they're not adding to the price for that.
You must have some serious autism to take issue with this one very specific thing. I'm surprised your not throwing a fit about not being able to buy each track individually.
Planned =/ Finished and cut for the sake of making it DLC
as a note the cup icons aren't even the same as the 'beta icons'. It's a Triforce, Animal Crossing Leaf, Yoshi Egg and Cat Bell.
From what we can assume, it's half new tracks and half retro.
The Zelda and Animal Crossing cups will be nintendo themed tracks like Zelda's Lost Woods, F-Zero, Excite Bike and Animal Crossing.
The Egg and Cat Bell cups will probably be retro cups. We can confirm that there are retro tracks as you can see Wario's Gold Mine.