There's a lot of strange contradictory information slamming around here about the leaks. I just want to help spread some truth in the wake of this leaking panic.
Here's what we know:
>DHD/Shulk/Dark Pit/Dr. Mario/Bowser Jr are pretty much confirmed
>MOTHERFUCKING LEAKER is a fake and was proved to be so by Vaanrose
>the image of Solo/Multi he got wasn't from him, it was from one of Vaanrose's insider guys who gave it to him to prove that he was the real deal
>MOTHERFUCKING LEAKER then turned around and posted the cipher on here claiming the image was his own
>Vaanrose is a public figure who has inside knowledge and can be trusted. He supported the original DHD/Dark Pit etc text leak which is why some people call it the "Vaanrose leak"
>this means that the DLC leak is FALSE and is MFLeaker's trolling (as he admitted)
>this means that the Mach Rider/Impa/etc leak is FALSE and is just the trolling of someone without a source
(For more on this look up Vaanrose's comments on Smashboards. There are some screenshots of his statements floating around here too but I didn't save them)
>any screenshot information by "All Star" (Pokemon Rep/DK rep/other franchise rep) is false. All Star tried to post fake pictures of Chorus men and was proven to be a faker
>another statement from July 27~ is that Ridley/Chorus Men/Mewtwo/Dixie are in
>while not false this is speculation that is tied to the original leak
>the original text leak was DHD/Pitoo/Dr. Mario/Shulk/Bowser Jr and predicted his Koopa car, alts, etc
>this had no mention of Chorus Men/Ridley/Dixie/Mewtwo
>however the original text leak stated that there may be more characters
>the all star mode is still locked in the screenshots so this contributes to the assumption that there may be more characters
So MOTHERFUCKING LEAKER and All-Star were fake, huh?
I guess this means we'll be in for a big surprise when this game hits shelves.
Look, if RIdley isn't in, I'm not buying.
They already took away any competitive aspets, made the game slow as all hell, nerfed old veterans, and kept Ganon a slow clone. Today, we were insulted with Dark Pit and Dr. Mario just because. An exclusion of Ridely wouldn't be my only reason for not buying the game, it would just be the straw that broke the camel's back.
>DLC characters and the extra secret newcomers were fake
Figures, i said earlier today this morning that it was too good to be true and would redeem the roster so it was probably fake.
I'm not even surprised, just disappointed.
This is pretty much how i feel, minus the Ridley thing, i don't really care about Ridley. What i do care about is Sakurai ignoring all the popular fan request characters and then adding niggers like dark pit.
Also Wolf was my main in Brawl and he got cut, the disappointment is palpable.
I think there will be some sort of DLC or extra character by looking at the ui, there is room if you move the roster around for 5 more characters. The only reason I suggest it is because the back ground is plain black, why would sakurai do this? because the final roster was supposed to cover the whole background.
its a shitty theory but its either that or we have not seen the final ui for character select on 3ds
Yeah, but have you ever made a game?
On a serious note, I don't know why he feels the need to shun not only the tourney community but the entire community by actively ignoring character requests and clone fixing that has been around for two games. That's just being an obstinate little shit. I don't even know why Sakurai would spurn everyone in that manner, it doesn't make any logical sense.
ITS SHIT IF IT AINT MELEE 2.0 NO MATTER HOW MUCH IT IMPROVES FROM BRAWL
>Ignoring that Doctor Mario and Dark Pit are in the same boat as Lucina, not taking anybody else's spot and is just a bonus
If they werent there, you werent gonna get another character in their place, they are literally free bonuses that took no effort, so fuck off
agree with this 100%. not putting in ridley would just be an insult, especially when you wasted time on dark pit / lucinia / dr mario etc.
its literally indefensible, but some people (nintendrones) will try
MOTHERFUCKING LEAKER posted this, this morning during all the video shit
To the leakfags:
Look at this pic and ask yourself "Is it easier to believe that leaker got a copy from ESRB or whatever, leaked shit, and got shut down by Nintendo or to assume he's full of shit?"
Unless we get some solid evidence from Nintendo itself regarding the leak's veracity, it should not be considered as definitively true or definitively false.
Sakurai hates making Smash games but Iwata keeps forcing him and guilt tripping him into doing it, plus his massive autism doesn't let him abandon the series, so he copes by fucking and torturing the fanbase.
Videos are only marginally more reliable than screenshots, and I'd still prefer to get independent proof that what we see in the videos is correct instead of taking it at face value like so much of /v/ is doing.
he posted DLC list saying Lucas Ice CLimbers, Snake, Wolf, Chorus Men would be DLC but he admits he was just fucking with us
the other characters on the top are the final newcomers
I don't give a fuck who takes credit for what, I believe what I see. If there are two leakers at each other's throats, fighting for attention, I can just wait it out and see the final game. But I don't believe for a second, based on official promotional material, that Ridley isn't in. Not without proof.
So, my final question is this: Do we know if this is the same individual who posted the videos. If it is not, then this isn't verifiable and my money to buy a WiiU and Smash is going into my PC and PS4 support fund.
You have to admit that some of the pictures and the videos especially do look convincing. Sure we don't know anything for sure until get official confirmation but it's not hard to believe they're real at this point.
No one knows, he wasn't unlocked in the video if he is playable, and if he is not playable Pyrosphere is only on the WiiU version and the video is from the 3ds.
Because it's in the middle of a bigass thread on smashboards and i'm on my phone. There are screenshots floating around on here and on /ssbg/ though. Hopefully someone will post them
Do you even understand that Smash is a Japanese game made for Japanese players first and foremost, and they don't give a shit about Ridley and K Rool and whoever?
He takes character requests, but mainly from Japanese polls.
Oh my god, it's a picture of Ridley from Smash64 fucking amazing find.
Plus, he have doesn't playable version. All he has is a DVD made for an ESRB rating. It's why the video suddenly cuts to other modes and why it has no visible border between the screens.
He's definitely at minimuma boss, but then again:
>clone ridley and regular ridley are two separate characters
>we saw dark pit and gameand watch long before they were revealed
We basically have no idea until the japs unlock everything in smash.
MOSHI MOSHI OKINAWA JESUS DESU OKAIRIA GOMENASAI GAKI YAMAMOTO CHAN NII NE SAN SAMA OMAE WA SHINDEIRU
Not true. King Dedede was cut from Melee so we could get the 6 clones instead. With the 5 other spots there are more potential clones, so all the clones dev time together could have been used on a unique character.
Why so? A single video proves nothing except that the leaker has a video camera. Show me a second leak from a seperate source that also confirms Shulk, Bowser Jr, and the rest and I might reconsider but until then the ball's in his court.
I don't care how convincing they look. Either they're true or they're not, and until we get official confirmation I'm not buying it. Sorry to rain on your leak-filled parade, but not everyone can be convinced that it's real just by watching a semi-decent video.
Plus, notice the following:
>Link's down air
>Links up-b as his down b
>Marth's edge recovery attack
>Link's foreward smash
>only unique move is mode change
Doesn't it seem odd that the character with the most potential for an unorthodox fighting style (for a swordsman, at least) has all those ripped-off moves?
>Doesn't it seem odd that the character with the most potential for an unorthodox fighting style (for a swordsman, at least) has all those ripped-off moves?
>meanwhile in Ganondorf
>Doesn't it seem odd that the character with the most potential for an unorthodox fighting style (for a swordsman, at least) has all those ripped-off moves?
Actually, no, it does not surprise me at all because Sakurai is a fucking hack.
>Doesn't it seem odd that the character with the most potential for an unorthodox fighting style (for a swordsman, at least) has all those ripped-off moves?
It does, but in a game where Ganondorf is a Captain Falcon clone of all things it sure wouldn't surprise me.
I'm not saying you'll have to believe them, I'm still skeptical myself, but at least admit that even if they are fakes, they're pretty convincing ones.
What happened to his whole "I can see the future" gimmick? It was only a key plot point in his game as well as a gameplay mechanic, after all.
I did say that, but on essentially every smash thread but this one I was told that I was in denial and also a ridleyfag. Like it's my fault that I like to have more proof than most /v/irgins are satisfied with.
Have you played the fucking game Shulk is from? He literally has a move called Air Slash that looks just like it does in the leaked video. So why would it be a ripped move if the attack originated from his own game?
Then why do you seem to be fighting it so hard? This is some pretty convincing evidence. If the multiple videos and all of the images leaked weren't enough, Nintendo shutting everything related to it down should be very telling. They even went as far as shutting someone's dropbox down in ssbg.
Anon, clones dont take a characters spot
We arent gonna suddenly get another character if Dark Pit, Lucina and Doctor Mario werent put in, they are literally bonus's
>IGNORING POPULAR FAN REQUEST
>What is Megaman
>What is Punch Out
>BUT MY ONE SIDED CHARACTER
Ridley is still up in the air since there is more secret characters, shut the fuck up
>Nobody wanted Duck Hunt Dog
Nigger, he's my favorite reveal so far. I've always wanted him. But like Fawful, I never really talked about him because I assumed NEVER EVER. Duck Hunt/Mario Bros was my first vidya and everyone's wanted to shoot that fucker in the head for 30 years. That + his art style is going to make him one of my mains, right behind Yoshi and
the Big Guy
Being convincing is not enough in my eyes- either it is confirmed or it is not, and for the moment it's the latter. I will gladly recant my opinions when (or if) it is confirmed to be real, and until that time no amount of browbeating or arguing will change my stance. Is that so hard to understand?
>some how convinced a dude to give him valuable footage
>lied about dlc twice
>apparently even responsible for that Palutena fake from spring
he was some next level troll to be sure
Just fucking get this over this, my expectations for the big bike has been all over the place from being deconfirmed in April to confirmed to neutral as of now.
Dixie and Mewtwo are pretty much guaranteed at this point though.
>guy explicitly says he doesn't care about ridley
>Anon, clones dont take a characters spot
Is wrong, regardless of how cheap it is to make a clone character, it still takes time, effort and man power to make them. You cannot know if a character got cut because of them, for all you know there was some character that got cut because 3 clones was better than that one 1 unique character. You don't know, i don't know, no one knows.
>remove characters that were made popular by smash, and could have been saved
>add in Mario in a different shirt
>add in a recolor of pitt
>add in a character who isn't even in Mario Kart anymore
>add in a character that has existed for all of 4 seconds
>the city of you
>This leak is on a bunch of random shit like Metro and Entertainment Weekly
But Sakurai wanted to keep it a surprise!
Fucking this, it's especially annoying when people get mad as hell when they add new clones but get just as mad when they remove old clones. Make up your fucking mind you fags.
WAIT A MINUTE.
Pyrosphere is Wii U only?
What if Pyrosphere is like the Spirit Track's level. By that I mean Ridley appears as a boss but if someone is playing as Ridley, something else will show up instead. Just like how in the Spirit Tracks stage the conductor changes if someone is playing as Toon Link.
are you fucking retard?
we got a whole photo album and full length videos about bowser jr and shulk and ganon by the leaker
If this were a Kojima game, I would have no doubt that the leaks were all part if a bigger ruse orchestrated by Hideo himself.
Unfortunately, I don't think Sakurai is as big of a ruseman as Kojima, so these leaks are legit and unplanned. Sakurai is probably the 2nd biggest ruseman out there, but there's a huge powergap between Kojima and Sakurai.
Vaanrose has gotten more correct then Gematsu's ass. The detail he goes into on these characters is unprecedented, and pretty much everything he states is confirmed in the gameplay videos, except maybe the Koopalings alts, but even that seems likely considering there's a trophy with Larry in a Clown Copter.
i dont think you saw the imgur album you delusional faggot. good luck disproving all those pictures
>Images are revealed
>SHOW US GAMEPLAY VIDEOS FUCKING LEAKER FAGGOT
>Videos are revealed
>IT'S EASY TO FAKE SMASH GAMEPLAY YOU CAN DO IT WITH PROJECT M
Not if you keep insisting that the leaks are the literal, undeniable truth and that I'm a denialfag/ridleyfag for not being as easily persuaded as you are.
I'm not going to stop you from believing your leaks. I will merely warn you that there's a chance you'll just be setting yourself up for disappointment. I lose nothing if I'm wrong, after all.
Not my fault that they assume a leaker speaks the word of God and set themselves up for disappointment when he falls short. Just look at Gematsu- it only took one mistake to bring his whole leak crumbling down.
You're fucking delusional and should probably get off /v/ and do some introspection.
You're kind of guy who said that Bloodborne was fake and was just an elaborate ruse
>i have nothing to lose by hoping the leaks are fake
you lose all common sense and rationality, you sound like a moron.
these leaks are the realest things ive ever seen in my entire life, for you to even begin to think they could be faked is just delusional.
>Cut from 2 fucking Mario Karts
>In Smash Bros
>Dixie and Mewtwo are pretty much guaranteed at this point though.
After bringing back Dr. Mario there's literally is no reason not to bring back Mewtwo and the lack of a DK newcomer would be a bad idea in the wake of Tropical Freeeze and Returns.
Ridley and the Chorus Men/whatever RH character is what really throws me off in the various leaks, especially the one from July 27. That could easily be someone riding in the coat tails of the Vaanroose leak or another insider.
Either way there's no doubt there's more characters.
>Ice Climbers cut
>9 Mario Characters
>NINE MARIO CHARACTERS
NINE FUCKING MARIO CHARACTERS
I'm gonna' hold this leak is fake because its simply too shit to be true.
Why do they hate her booty so much
So do the leakfags if they end up being wrong. It looks real enough, I'll give them that- but until release I'm not buying it. I'm not discounting it completely, but I will err on the side of caution, which the majority of /v/ seems to be bitterly opposed to. Why must I act as if these leaks are the undeniable truth or be met with lunatics screaming denial just because I won't give into peer pressure? Is it so wrong to reserve one's judgment without letting high expectations get in the way of one's better judgment?
>implying the best Nintendo series SHOULDN'T get a fuckton of reps
>My friend is bitching that the game is still floaty and slow
Is it beyond the realm of reason to assume that, perhaps, Sakurai included an option that alters the gravity/speed of gameplay, much like how damage ratios and other options were available to toggle in previous installments? Could that be a thing?
There's a difference between healthy skepticism and being overly cautious to the point of ridiculousness. Regardless of the content within the footage the fact that Nintendo had it taken down is proof enough that it's real.
The Bowser Jr is really, really convincing.
I have to admit though that Shulk's animations are terrible. And I'd feel more comfortable if there was footage of Duck Hunt, a character who would likely be way harder to "fake".
Not necessarily. Any idiot can pretend to be a corporation and file a DMCA. It happens all the time on YouTube. Even I could do it.
And I'd rather be too cautious than set myself up for what could very well be false hope.
Ganondorf too, yeah. Except I'm willing to write it off to the dev team's incompetence.
If it is fake though they did a great job on Bowser Jr.
You know what's cooler? Giving characters there own fuckin moveset instead of adding more clones.
They are definitely inherently bad in this situation, when there was a clear other option over inflating the rooster.
Making a character takes a long time and they might end up really shitty like Ice Climbers or Metaknight or Pokemon Trainer. It may be that they simply cant come up with a good kit for Gannondorf.
>cut original characters like snake, ice climbers, and wolf
>add shit like Doctor Mario, Dark Pit, Lucina
>make shulk a clone of marth
>make bowser jr. a clone of diddy kong
ridley a clone of charizard
>keep ganondorf a clone
is this the fucking laziest roster of all time? it's like they completely half assed everything and cut original good characters like ice climbers because they were "too hard to implement"
>really shitty like Ice Climbers or Metaknight
That's not exactly what people mean when they call it floaty. They mean that your attacks lack impact and don't feel rewarding, nor can you further capitalize on a successful attack. This is attributed to a lack of hitstun, slower falling speed for all characters, throws going way to far, or being blown back at low percentages while only really being vulnerable to KO at high percentages. This makes the game into a hit and run contest. Get a solid hit in, go on the defensive, wait for another opening. It's viable on a competitive level,
Brawl is actually deeply competitive game if you know the scenebut not that fun to watch and gets boring fast on a casual level.
Did you arleady see the Bowser Jr. gameplay footage? Just about 95% of his moves couldn't be faked.
>The clown car being able to open its mouth and lick to attack
>The clown car having a hatch open in the front to shoot a cannonball
>His up tilt is the paintbrush
>The clown car's boxing gloves
Pretty much the only move he does that could be "faked" is his recover, as people have pointed out it seems similar to Diddy's, but that doesn't really mean anything. Megaman and Sonic have the same recovery as well.
I've seen people come up with movesets for them everyfucking where.
How the hell couldn't people payed to come up with movesets not think of one?
Here's an obvious one. Make Toon Links final smash him summoning a controllable tornado.
It could be. So far, only the characters in the screens are in, so we don't know if Vaanrose means what he says about those 4 or if he's playing us like a fiddle.
My best guess though is that Mewtwo and Ridley probably are in regardless.
>No one have a shit about the Ice Climbers until they were gone
Robin Williams all over again.
There are empty slots on the character selection screen dude.
5 of them to be exact.
Each row is 9 characters long.
Second to last row is 8 characters long.
Last row is 4 characters long with the random box making it 5.
So the second row has room for one character, while the last row has room for four more.
One plus four equals five.
If there was no empty spaces, the screen would be entirely filled.
The name of the NoA Employee fired and sued is Daan Koopman. He Leaked the game to a circle of friends who then leaked the images and videos further. This is straight from a friend of one of the guys who leaked images.
Except that's wrong motherfucker. Sakurai has said on multiple occasions that ANY new character, clone or otherwise, has to be playtested for hours upon hours to make sure there aren't any game breaking bugs. Ignoring clones, especially multiple clones, means adding a unique character is a viable alternative. And yes, I'd rather have a single original character than 3-5 clones. Fuck padding the roster.
Same shit happened with Mewtwo in brawl. NOBODY even fucking used mewtwo in melee, I've never even heard of anyone using him as their main. At least ice climbers were top tier broken and people actually used them.
Honestly the stage and character news thus far has been really disappointing, and despite pre-ordering the 3DS version ages ago I just ain't hype any more. But again, that's just me personally. I have no interest in Little Mac, Megaman, or any of the Fire Emblem animu characters. Pacman was something of a delightful surprise though, I'll admit. Aside from that though it's been a whole lotta nothing.
I really need to see more stage footage and at least one more newcomer to get me excited again. Make it happen, Sakurai.
I don't believe there will be DLC, but I also do not believe that the final roster is going to leave all that empty space at the bottom and have Yoshi directly in the middle of the Mario reps.
To me, this seems a lot more likely to be possible than the imgur post. Anyone can make that. This one was posted a month ago and EVERYTHING in the post is true so far.
>But all we saw was a photo! That could easily have been photoshopped
And gameplay footage with Bowser Jr. was also photoshop? The leak is real and there's a 99% chance Mewtwo, Ridley, Dixie, Shulk, Impa, and Ridley are in as well.
Then there's the fact screen shots show's that All Star mode is in the game, but is locked. All Star mode is only unlocked when you have unlocked every character. This is further proven by the fact that every roster looks nice and tidy. Looks pretty. Why the fuck would the 3DS Roster have 4 rows of 9, a row of 8, and then a row of 5? There's clearly more characters to be unlocked. and we all know who they're going to be.
Yes Captain Falcon has a good moveset. But when you make him slow as molasses suddenly he can't full take advantage of his moveset. Besides, they made up movesets for Fox and Captain Falco when they had NOTHING to reference for. They could've easily made up one for Ganondorf
It was the same fucking case we have now with Marth and Lucina, and probably Mario/Dr.Mario & Pit/Dark Pit.
Get fucking over it with your small diferences with Fox, Falco & Wolf.
>yfw Duck Hunt Dog turns out to be an Olimar clone, but with ducks
>tfw I know a guy who said it's probably all modded through Brawl
Does nobody not know how fucking janky most custom movesets on Brawl Vault are
Even Roy in Project M leaves a bit to be desired. Mewtwo less so
Fucking Bowser Jr's animations are perfect
>huge roster with over 50 characters
>pac-man, megaman, mario, and sonic are all playable in the same game
>people still complaining because their precious purple dragon isn't in it
>made because one character OUT OF 50 isn't in it
you guys are all spoiled whiney children
Is anyone else fine with the roaster if this is what it ends up being? I am, Ice Climbers, Snake and Wolf getting cut sucks but they added a lot of cool characters. There was no way they were gonna satisfy everybody, anyway.
You're fucking retarded. Those differences with Fox and Wolf or more than small. I shouldn't even have to go into detail as to how they are different USE YOUR FUCKING EYES His smash attacks are different, his tilts are different, his normal A combo is different, his aerials are different and the properties of his B moves are similar but in the end are DIFFERENT. Lucina's moveset, both A and B, are EXACTLY the same as Marth but they have different properties.
I think the reasoning is that if they play even slightly differently than the original character, they would have their own slot (Lucina plays similarly to Marth, but a few differences let her have her own slot).
If every single Koopaling played exactly the same, and they could considering they'd all be using the clown copter anyway, they can be justified as only alts.
>>people still complaining because their precious purple dragon isn't in it
But he IS in.
This roster is pretty much perfect. I would have liked K. Rool and Isaac and some NEVER EVERs like Fawful or Rawk Hawk, but what can you do.
I'm satisfied with Pac-Man, Little Mac and Mega Man, so anyone else that looks cool is just gravy. I didn't really want anyone in particular so I'm not too fazed by the recent leaks. Bowser Jr. looks fun as hell though.
What sucks about this leak is that it clearly shows why this game's Japan Time wasn't as in depth as Brawl's: It had less content to show. They showed off the interesting newcomers people wanted or were surprised by, showed the huge changes in characters like Bowser, to get everyone hyped.
Problem is that they didn't put NEARLY as much effort in the things they didn't show.
Bullshit. That Bowser, Kirby, Pikachu, they're all flawless too
People gotta learn what they're talking about before making arguments like that
I'm alright with it.
Mach Rider would have made my year but I guess it's hopeless now. I will still miss Wolf but to be honest, while I liked him way more than Fox/Falco, he's not a big priority for me. I also feel pretty bad for Lucasfags and Ice Climbers (I never used them but I enjoyed their company).
I also hope Dark Pit isn't a 1:1 clone and has at least a few different b moves or something.
All other big names would have just been cake for me, but Mach Rider was really the only one I would have gone crazy for.
So where is Ridley, Mewtwo and Impa coming from?
I mean they aren't in the leaked pictures, there's no mention of them in that quote on the forum, and MFL proved to be a troll with his DLC stuff. I know there are probably more hidden characters, but if they know who they are why don't they leak them in a picture as well?
Check the video again, his up tilt is his paintbrush.
The koopalings alt is probably not true.
Which is funny, since it seems like half of the people excited about Bowser Jr. at all are only excited about those alts.
Is anyone else totally surprised that Bowser Jr. isn't just a faster/weaker clone of Bowser?
As soon as I heard he was in I was pretty much convinced he was going to be a clone, but now he's got his own very unique moveset and all the koopalings as alts. Good on you, Samurai.
I feel bad for Ice Climbers, Golden Sun and Konami. Other than that my main, which was more likely to get cut, is in. And I'm still dying to play the game as Robin, Villager, and now Dog.
So how does an ESRB member know that Ridley, Mewtwo, Dixie, and Chorus Men are in the game if they weren't shown in the videos?
Did they just make that shit up because people would believe it since everything else was true?
>Is anyone else totally surprised that Bowser Jr. isn't just a faster/weaker clone of Bowser?
Pretty much everyone saw him using his paintbrush to do paint attacks of some kind.
Him using the koopa clown car is a cool idea as well.
This whole thing reminded me of how people were calling that Rosalina would just be a Peach clone if she got in. And we know how that turned out. People just need to give Sakurai more credit.
IF she gets in, the third one in this pattern will be Dixie Kong. People have been going on and on about her and how she would just be Diddy with a ponytail. She is pretty much 100% guarenteed to me that if she gets in, she won't be a clone.
They act like so autistic when they talk about Ridley
>hurr no ridley no buy
They fucking makes entire delusional threads of how can Ridley be in the roster yet with "proof" that even themselves can't believe
True. They're all taken from his allies Paula and Poo. Aside from PK Flash. That said, his main ability is named by the player, and even though Rockin' is the default name, I can see why they did it. I'd still liked to have seen it though.
I was totally against BJ at first but that fucking video made me a believer
goddamn the clown car looks hype as fuck
The point is Sakurai said characters who play even slightly differently would get their own slot.
The question is why do the Koopalings and Alph not have their own slot when they have clear differences.
It also would draw into question why Sakurai even made Lucina slightly different from Marth when he could of made her just an alt
The whole point of the conversation is that if the characters have ability differences they'd be different characters completely
See goddamn Lucina and Marth
The paintbrush is a jr exclusive ability/weapon
So why is he bunched with the Koopalings?
Because it matters so MUCH to them that Metroid gets another rep!
...despite only ever having ONE major recurring character feasible enough to be playable, so much so that there are TWO fucking versions of her in Brawl and Kerfuffle just to have another.
I fucking love Metroid and I fucking love Ridley but Ridleyfags need to fuck off already
what it bothers me is that Ness doesn't look like this, I hate the no neck clay model like Ness
Lol, prove what, retard?
>An exclusion of Ridely wouldn't be my only reason for not buying the game, it would just be the straw that broke the camel's back
>An exclusion of Ridely wouldn't be my only reason for not buying the game
>wouldn't be my only reason for not buying the game
> it would just be the straw that broke the camel's back
Control your autism, son.
Photoshop...but if you line up all the fighter on the screen, you have 5 more space so my guess is...
Doesn't confirm it but heavily implies it due to the fact Lemmy is usually on his ball in the Mario games, not in the clown car. This points towards it being a trophy of him in game since if the leak is true he would be in the clown car
Let's say, hypothetically, that the Koopaling and Alph alts turn out to be real.
Is the announcer just gonna say BOWSER JR. and OLIMAR? Because that'd be pretty awkward.
It doesn't matter if the paintbrush is Bowser Jr's exclusive weapon, Sakurai could give it to Lucina for all it mattered. Any canon or established character gets thrown out the window when it comes to smash. The koopalings don't need to play differently when they're in the clown copter, and Alph is exactly the same as Olimar aside from personality, similar to Male and Female Wii Fit Trainer.
>And Pittoo has his own weapons
I'm going to laugh if Pittoo isn't just a straight clone. I still would've preferred a better KI rep, but that'd at least redeem him as a character.
I only count seven, my friend.
But she'd just be a clone of Shiek
And it'd probably be the Skyward Sword version too, which would be pretty weird next to TP Link, Zelda and The Dorf
Maybe Zelda has a best girl alt and Dorf has a Demise alt
A red herring to make people think that the leak was fake and possibly save the leaker from legal issues. Or that guy was possibly fake. Up until this morning I thought this leak was full of shit. The only reason I don't mind it is because supposedly there are more characters that need to be unlocked. Need my big guy in there after all.
So what's Shulk/Duck Hunt Dog/Bowser Jr./Dark Pit/Dr. Mario's final smashes going to be?
Yeah, because I originally agreed with you and I was pointing out to that autist >>259895035
that nobody was throwing a bitch fit solely because Ridley wasn't in. I'm >>259894868
Its a good point, but Sakurai already stated with Lucina that he had to choose between adding Chrom, or adding Robin, so he chose Robin, and filled the extra space with Lucina cause "he already had her as a alt for Marth"
So yes, originally Sakurai was going to have it to where you win with Lucina and it says:
AND THE WINNER IS.......MARTH!
But even with this, this is just lending itself to my theory that there won't be any alts that turn you into someone that would have a different name as a different person then you.
>In April 2014, Bandai Namco Games posted a recruitment advertisement on a Japanese career job opportunity website. The recruitment page consisted of a listing for programmers for Super Smash Bros. 6, which is expected to be released in 2015 for both the Wii U and Nintendo 3DS. The page noted there were 120 game developers working on the project at the time, and that the Bandai Namco expected that number to increase to 200. However, shortly after its publication, the page was taken down.
W-What happened to Smash Bros 5?
Chain Attack with Reyn and Dunban leading into MUH NADO BUSTAH
or just straight up MUH NADO BUSTAH
Shooting just like Snake's FS
Turns into Shadow Mario? Commandeers an Airship? Megaleg?
Lightning Chariot because him using the 3 Sacred Treasures would be fucking dumb
although Wolf using a Landmaster was pretty fucking dumb so who knows
Spawns a giant bottle and traps those caught in it, drops pills on them
but probably the same as Mario's and you know it
Shulk? No Clue, never could get far enough into his game to know much about the character.Duck Hunt Dog? Snake's from Brawl, but with a lightgun instead.
Bowser Jr? Final Boss fright from Super Mario World, flying around freely and dropping fire and bowling balls
Dark Pit? ..I got nothing. Bit Uprising fan here, and I legitimately don't know what they'd do for him. Lightning Chariot maybe?
I want to believe the Doc would have Pills rain down from the sky, but I'm honestly expecting no more than just a reskin of Original Mario's...somehow
It would be more than just the announcer saying their name, they'd need specific sound effects for when they're battling as well. Just having the announcer say a different name correlated to a certain costume wouldn't be difficult at all.
>please continue to enrage that other gentleman.
Evidently it's not taking much at all, besides, he's clearly had enough. I guess autism doesn't speak ALL the time.
Look i dont give a fuck, i just want this game now to spread all the sauce
I saw him use some kind of buff that made his feet glow blue in the video though. Later on he uses another one that makes his hands glow red. Looked like the buff works like a slot machine since I saw a bunch of kanji characters of different colors above his head until it settled on the blue one.
Mach Rider is the one I am still gunning for. If he gets in, I don't care what shitty clones made it: I have all the characters I could ever want in Smash Bros.
Considering Sakurai has expressed wanting to add him since Melee, having his music in the games, and says he is his favorite Nintendo character, I am not counting him out just yet.
The blue one looked like Monado Speed and the red one was probably Monado Enchant
Makes him faster and stronger respectively. Cool because a large part of his playstyle in Xenoblade centers around buffing your party
>Mfw "What if X is just a clone" is going to be the new LE EPIC MEME XDD JOKES just like BABBY METAL MARIO XD SO FAHNY JOKE
>duck's fly him like Snake's up-b
>since he's a dog, he buries a rotting, dead duck with his down b and it explodes because of its decomposing gasses when someone steps on it
Nintendo of America destroy all the evidence, what do you think they take it down?, Smash 6?, reggie porn videos? are you fucking retarded?
No lie, I would be down for zapping niggas like motherfucking Killua Zoldyck
I had the theory that Metal Captian Falcon in this pic was really mach rider since the detail on his boots and helmet are different. Mach Rider looks a lot like that too.I could see them making it a half Falcon clone.
So details I think need to be clarified:
1. All Star Mode is locked in the leaks, and that typically means that all of the characters aren't unlocked yet.
2. Nintendo would not release a game where one of the entire modes can't be unlocked until they release DLC for it.
3. According to the "GUYS THE LEAKER GOT CAUGHT" articles, the person that uploaded all of this stuff was someone that was suppose to be in transit to deliver these things to the ESRB.
4. Which means it was NOT the ESRB that leaked this stuff, it was some other person.
5. Which means this other person had access to the ESRB video copy, AND probably a copy of the actual game itself as well.
6. Now you may be wondering, "how does this change anything?"
7. Well, whats the first excuse you hear when you say "what's stopping all the characters from not fully being unlocked yet?" Most of the time, you would get answered with "Its the ESRB, they HAVE to have everything unlocked so they know every little detail before they give their rating!"
8. If we add all of this up together, this is the story we get:
Some guy is given this stuff to deliver to the ESRB.
At some point, he starts playing the game 100% blind. After all, he has no guides, he has nothing to go on for how to unlock characters.
He unlocks up to the point that he has unlocked, and takes screenshots of everything.
He hands over the video and game copy to the ESRB to review after having deleted his save file.
He takes the screenshots, and gives them to friends, to upload in a attempt to get away with not being caught.
Basically this makes a good amount of sense, and I am about 95% sure that the game still had characters to unlock, and one of them could easily be the Ice Climbers. Only muh patterns say that they have to be on the starting roster.
One of the reactions, seven years ago.
Time sure flies.
Is Nintendo really so naive as to send out copies without expecting a leak? And with a game as big as Smash? It baffles me, to the point where I'm hoping this was all some elaborate plan by them. But that's not even possible because so much was leaked. What the fuck, Nintendo.
Why is there more organized information about the fucking morons doing the leaks instead of the leaks themselves?
I have to scan threads for embedded videos and images trying to find all this shit. /vg/ is absolutely a fucking shithole and has none of the information up in the OP. Do I have to sign up for some lame-ass forum to get this info, or are you any anons compiling this so it's easily accessible? Where are these screenshots I keep hearing about?
>Nintendo of America destroy all the evidence, what do you think they take it down?, Smash 6?, reggie porn videos? are you fucking retarded?
Of course we don't but would you be surprised? He kind of looks to be smirking too, unlike Falcon.
>So mad he had to drop his trip
Look, I'm sure you've shitposted in countless roster threads. I can't tell you how many times I've had to point out all the obvious signs pointing to fishy business associated with Ridley that faggots like you actively ignore. This isn't my first rodeo, let's just skip to the part in which I forget about you and you feel good about lowering the quality of discussion. M'kay?
Lucina was on the same team as him and friendly fire was probably off, anon.
captcha: fleger Monads
Honestly I can't fucking wait until Sakurai officially reveals him so we get some more insight on how the Monado works in Smash
The only way a character gets "cut" in favor of clones is development time.
Someone else already said something about it, but Dedede was considered for Melee until they realized they could make 6 clones (of varying popularity) in the time it would've taken to make everything for Dedede.
If Ice Climbers were cut, the clones were put in as compensation because they didn't have enough time to implement them so they could work properly, not the other way around. It's shitty compensation, but still compensation.
This sounds plausible. There are two things that it doesn't explain though:
-Why there isn't more pictures or footage, such as the very beginning roster?
-Wouldn't Nintendo be able to just over-ride their game with some sort of developer or beug mode or something and just unlock the entire roster at once? This would save them the trouble of handing it off to some guy to play through the game.
>Motherfuckerleaker makes a cypher with a cropped image claiming characters are in (but no pictures)
>Actual leakers say that it was a trap and they were waiting to see if he'd run to 4chan and post it before sharing more information. "He doesn't have the full picture. The cropped one was one we gave him to test him."
>Gets BTFO by the source of the images, undisputed proof that he was full of shit
>Yet people still defend him and the leak at the same time just because he said Ridley was in
This board I swear
I think the reason they looked terrible is because they weren't officially confirmed. Once they're officially shown to definitively be in, they'll look a lot better.
With all this talk about characters, if they end up being really fun to play and the balancing ends up with them being WORTH playing against other characters, who fucking cares? Bowser Jr. wasn't at all a character I was hoping for, but when I saw the screenshot of him in the Clown Car, I knew Sakurai had come up with some goofy, fun way to make it work. And sure enough, the video shows him doing some cool fucking moves and some fun animations.
Now Bowser Jr. is one of the first three characters I want to play as when I get the game. And if the rumor of the Koopalings being the seven alts is true, holy fuck, then I'll really play the shit out of the character. It seems reasonable enough, given the same animations could be used for all the Koopalings, it would be a simple model swap, right? I'll hold on hope out that because it'd be fun to play as Lemmy in the Koopa Car using extended punching gloves on Shulk.
If Mach Rider does get in, the only way I'd accept him is if his playstyle revolved around playing the character on and off the motorcycle, summoning it through a special move like Wario. Give him a new set of moves on the bike and he'd be awesome.
Oh, and give him the laser equivalent of a sawed-off shotgun, Mad Max style. Fires nasty spread shots with great knockback and near immediate activation, but has to be reloaded with every two shells.
Let's be honest: Mach Rider is a mix of Kamen Rider and Mad Max. It's best to embrace that.
why does it look like the dog and the duck are friends i mean innt that niggas job like to pick up the ducks that get shot i mean damn
I was gonna guess september 2-3, but the leak might change that if Nintendo decides to play damage control
I was expecting a Nintendo Direct with the last trailer, but who knows
Hmm, who knows at this point? Probably sometime within the coming weeks, seeing as we don't have much longer to go till the Japanese release. At least one or two more.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sakurai announces another one out of the blue like with Robin/Lucina because of the leak.
As fucking cool as the Koopaling alts sound, the implementation bugs me. The Koopalings run from Bowser Jr. Sized to practically Bowser. Unless they take some super liberties with size (and it is Smash after all) I feel like the hit boxes would prevent it from being possible
That is, unless Bowser Jr. isn't part of the hotbox, just the clown car, in which case they could totally go hog wild and Roy will continue to be my boy.
So how mad would you guys be if Shulk, Duck Hunt Dog, and Bowser Jr. are just Assist Trophies and if Dark Pit and Dr. Mario are just alternate costumes, and if Ridley is just a boss like he was is Subspace Emissary?
First part answer: Probably just screenshots of what he wanted to take.
Second part answer: Keep in mind, its a video AND the game.
What if the video was for the ESRB with everything unlocked, but the guy couldn't play it for some reason? Like, if it was encoded and needed a password to be played, and only the ESRB had it?
And the game itself was just so the ESRB understand what the game is and how it works?
Just the idea that this wasn't leaked by the ESRB but by someone else should be enough evidence to prove that its not the final roster, there is more to unlock, and lets not forget All Star mode still wasn't unlocked yet.
fuck you DIO shouldn't you be posing shirtless like the fag you are
The only thing that could possibly make me made is if Nintendo did something outrageous like make Donte a playable character.
Oh, and make sure the character has to rely on both modes to function properly, so as to avoid the Zelda/Shiek debacle Melee and Brawl had.
For example, on foot, Mach Rider can have a chain whip recovery move similar to the Pikmen Ladder move in Brawl. The key difference is that this move can also be used to grab items and drag them to you, and grab airborne enemies and slam them down. It can also be aimed by holding up+b, then tilting the control stick in the direction you want (He could have a badass swinging chain idle animation while aiming.) then release to throw. Decent attack, mediocre recovery.
On the flipside, Mach Rider's bike recover move is a badass burning wheelie that is jet boosted upwards. By jumping during the wheelie, Mach Rider can leap out of the motorcycle to cover more ground. It'd be a huge recovery move, but would cost you the bike for a while.
Finding when to use each mode would be key to making Mach Rider awesome.
Ganon was an alt of C.Falcon?
And why not playable Alph? The whole alt turned character point is bullshit cause it works for any character that can have an alt thats another character.
I think we need to take this entire game
back to formula
I always admired that about Sakurai's games, how there's so much that's left for the player to find in them.
I still to this day don't understand how he managed to keep two thirds of fucking Kid Icarus under wraps until release
Has anything else been leaked since the imgur album, or anything added to that since it first went up? I've been out all day. Last thing I heard was that the leaker got sued/fired
i was there when the original leak happened. the leaker said the duck and dog are friends and play like banjo and kazooie with the duck riding on the dogs back and assisting with certain moves and his recovery. he also implied the reason for this drastic change is that nintendo is developing a banjo kazooie style collect em up with duck and hunt as the two main characters. like the drastic genre shift and reboot of kid icarus.
You know, if there's only one good thing to be gleaned from Dark Pit and the abundance of KI stuff,cit's that maybe hopefully codec calls will return via Pit/Dark Pit.
I fucking loved the banter in KI:U and it'd be so perfectly appropriate for Smash.
>nintendo is developing a banjo kazooie style collect em up with duck and hunt as the two main characters.
I could get behind this, honestly.
If only it were actually Banjo and Kazooie ;_;
I don't think the ESRB ever receive a copy of the game, just videos. From the HowStuffWorks page:
A minimum of three game raters are responsible for rating each game. These raters receive special training, and their identities are kept hidden to preserve the integrity of the rating process. The ESRB also requires that the raters have no connections to the game industry.
When a publisher plans to release a game, they submit an application to the ESRB. Then they send a video of footage from the actual game, including the most extreme examples of potentially offensive content and overall game play. The raters view this footage -- they never actually play the game -- and assign it an ESRB rating (for example, E (Everyone) for a game that is suitable for ages 6 and over).
It's starting to look that way, but there's still a glimmer of hope that there are unannounced characters and that Ice Climbers might be among them.
It's about the spirit, my friend, not the characters themselves...
That said I'm not sure Nintendo has it in them to make a good old fashioned collectathon.
don't worry friend. it will be better. just look what sakurai did to kid icarus. he make anything amazing. all these people are bellyaching about characters and clones, but the day the game comes out everyone will shut the fuck up and appreciate the masterpiece that is smash 4.
>Banjo and Kazooie were originally planned for Smash 64
>this is the spiritual successor to that
>in 4 years we'll get Duck Hunt: Uprising for the. Nintendo 4DS
>it's the Banjo Threeie we never got.
Never ever. Why does Nurutu gotta get such fucking sweet games and HxH gets nothing?
>tfw only four more