Sakurai about when the SSB (N64) roster leaked on the net directly before the release.
When the hidden character info leaked on a certain board before SSB was released, I got really mad. (To the extent that I thought about suing)
>Upon being asked by Sakurai if "he ever made a game" the man responded with his own question "have you ever made a good game?", immediately Sakurai opened his mouth to speak only to stop before words formed, his expression perplexed as if searching every wrinkle of his brain. After a good five minutes, Sakurai whispered, but no one heard, when asked to speak up Sakurai screamed in a fit of rage "NO", repeatedly, tears streaming down his face, his voice going hoarse. After his tantrum, Sakurai was asked to reiterate "No" he said "I have never made a good game".
I sorta slightly agree with you, it pisses me off how almost all vets got zero new moves except minor tweaks, along with almost everyones Final Smash being the same garbage. And then you have cutting characters for "potential" DLC, only to put in more clones. And then theres... Lucina... I'll never forgive him for that.
I wonder how Sakurai is reacting to the leak? I feel bad for the guy. He just wanted to make vidya games
>tfw Sakurai delays smash because of the leaks so he can change the roster
>tfw Smash Bros is delayed for two years
But anooooon, smash isn't a fighting game, it's a party game and we must all enjoy the slow ass casualised gameplay
>He just wanted to make vidya games
Yeah, for himself.
Serves him right for being an arrogant faggot. First lesson about Smash Bros is actually making polls and knowing what people wants, not just shoving your ego all over the game.
>make polls and know what people want
Thats just a recipe for disaster. You're going to end up getting all kinds of crazy shit. Worse part is people will blame the polls being "rigged" or something and still hate Sakurai for it.
You can't please everyone.
He did make a poll for Brawl though.
King Dedede(5) - CONFIRMED!
Diddy Kong(4) - CONFIRMED!
Ike(4) - CONFIRMED!
Captain Olimar & Pikmin(3) - CONFIRMED!
Animal Crossing MC(2) - in BG of Smashville stage
Lucas(2) - CONFIRMED!
That seems like something a fish would do. I think at most a certain Brazilian will get judicially analprobed by Nintendo.
I could see him having logged into his Google account without any protection.
you mean like 64, Melee, or Project M?
yeah, that would be nice
He probably shouldn't have been such a biased, self-serving faggot then.
>Says no clones this time
>We get six clones
>Says he isn't going to play favorites with his franchises
>Kid Icarus gets three reps, Fire Emblem gets four
>Says Namco-Bandai isn't getting any special treatment because they're co-developing the game
>Pac-Man gets included anyway
>Other fighting game developers don't do this shit.
IIRC WWW came about in the early 90's/late 80's, but before that there was still internet, just very shittily organized by index. I think it was called gopher or something
No if it was fish, he would cancel the game and tell everyone to choke his dick
Greninja will probably be better, Wolf is pretty much a clone, it wasn't Sakurai's choice for Snake to be cut, and Lucas is a clone too.
Why, why couldn't of we had him? Everyone wanted him because of that animation.
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>squirtle - genuinely feel for you, I liked Red
>Wolf - clone
>Snake - DLC before Nintendo did DLC. no surprise he didn't join for round 2.
>Lucas - clone. better than Ness imo but still a clone.
you played mostly clones, you only have yourself to blame. in other news, theres more clones than ever in smash 4 so you should be happy!
Hey man, Decapre is fun as fuck to play.
I don't even care that her looks and normals are ripped straight from Cammy, she has a totally unique playstyle and she just clicked with me as soon as I tried playing her for the first time.
>wah the director made the game he wanted to make instead of pandering to me specifically! this is an outrage!
>it wasn't Sakurai's choice for Snake to be cut
Actually it was, Kojima said no one at nintendo approached him about using Snake, and said "mr sakurai pls use snake if you can" or something along those lines.
The only relevant smash game is melee anyway.
All the rest might as well be forgettable mario party-esque one offs.
Melee built a "community" from the standard "fanbase" most games have.
And /v/ hates melee lol
The only thing I'm mad about is the use of clones when sakurai said no more clones (then changed it to clones aren't alts. shoulda seen it coming).
He likes to play so many games with Japan Time but the internet is a different place than it was 5 years ago. most people were more upset and impatient with it this go around. thats what caused the leak and how the fans are happy about his buttpains over it.
Understandable. I assume there is a fuckton of work to decide who to add in a game like this since most characters have unique skill sets and it'd piss me off too if some gaylord spoiled the roster before the game comes out.
shut the fuck up, hes a clone. the concept of clones doesn't mean they are carbon copies, just alike enough to NOT warrant their own slot.
Did you like all the Koopalings taking all those spots in MK8 too?
So what's the leaked roster?
Are we really getting the Duck Hunt Dog?
Have Ice Climbers really been kicked?
>The character I liked isn't in the game, Sakurai should die for this!
Bowser Jr and Shulk without a shadow of a doubt.
Ganondorf still being a clone.
Pictures of Dr Mario, Dark Pit, Duck Hunt Dog.
Text leak of Ridley, Dixie, Mewtwo that may or may not be true.
I'm hoping Duck Hunt Dog plays the same as iceclimbers so they can be an alt skin. they should make that brawler just be the 'retro' and have all the alts be retro buddy teams. make one of em mario and luigi from the original mariobros that was just about hitting pow boxes and pipes and shit.
They're on the same level. We never actually saw him in action, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. At any rate, I can't see him being more of a clone than she is.
Not one of these butthurt fags whose characters didnt make the cut, but the roster is far from perfect. If the leak is real, ill be terribly disappointed. The only redeeming character is Bowser Jr and they put him in a clown car. Duck Hunt and Dr Mario (cant remember the other shit choices) are looking to make this the most lackluster roster in Smash history. Even Brawl had a much more well rounded line up
Casuals shit on the rosters as much as competitives shit on the gameplay, if not more.
Melee did something better than the others dude.
Not saying the others aren't good, they are just riding the community that melee built for them
Never. Sakurai will personally make sure to destroy the announcement material.
He will also go to work today, take the hidden vodka bottle from his desk drawer and wreck the shit out of his office in a drunken rage.
>Says no clones this time
He never said that.
Also FE isn't his franchise, though he did call FEA's cast "rich"
leland say that he enjoyed it, so it's still playing favorites.
What I AM mad about is that he proceeds to cut clones that WERE unique, like Snake, Wolf, and Lucas...and proceeds to add clones that are almost exactly the same.
Surely he knows you can't really prevent them, right? If the ESRB really are the ones who leaked this, they can lube up nice right now, 'cause I'm pretty sure Sakurai and Nintendo are gonna fuck them in the ass.
It's getting way more than it needs, at least character wise. Dark pit and lucina should have been alt costumes. If clones were a must, actually relevant characters such as impa, black shadow, alph, daisy, etc could have been clones. Instead, Sakurai picks and chooses which characters will be alts and which will be clones, and that breaks his stupid fucking rule of no alts that change a character to someone else.
>First lesson about Smash Bros is actually making polls and knowing what people wants
Yeah, blizzard took that kind of stance of giving the majority what they wanted.
Sure made WoW a great ga-oh god the tears and vomit won't stop
I think he's butthurt and wants melee 2.0
Makes no sense, melee was the best selling game on the gamecube and is still bringing on hundreds of thousands stream viewers for competitive play 13 years later.
So yeah, who would want melee 2.0?
>No pic of the day
>Just a message that says "Tune in tomorrow for an announcement regarding recent events"
>Everyone expects newcomer reveals
>Next day, stream starts
>Pic related, but with Sakurai and the leaker
>moveset and slot transfered to another FE:A character
can´t wait for his reaction.
He might post on miiverse about canceling the Wii U version and comit sudoku.
Because most of it is speculative unconfirmed bs from what ive read. I havent been on here in like 2 days so I've missed the latest Smash news too. Not that guy, but has the leak % 100 been confirmed or is it still just taking the guy whose uncle works with nintendo or ersb's word for it? Any links?
>Shulk was a playable character but after the leak i was forced to demote him to just a trophy, here's a picture of him doesn't he look cool?
>we actually added details to the soles of his boots but you can't see those anymore because he's a trophy
>implying it isn't going to be sakurai hanging himself
>Implying the leak is the real roster
>Implying Sakurai isn't coming out and speaking about it to make a red herring
>Implying when the game releases, it won't have an entirely different roster
Sakurai is a master ruseman. I'm sad that you all are falling for the trap.
thats why its pathetic. for your own well being stop being interested in things just because you hear the word brazilian. especially on the internet, it will hurt your national and personal pride very very strongly.
you don't need to spoiler the obvious
>Nintendo devs want to make people happy
Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Oh my fuckign god, you cannot seriously believe this.
Not a single company out there is looking out for you, they're not your friends, they don't care if you're happy. All they want is dosh dosh dosh dosh, Nintendo is no different.
Okay let's try. Here's 19 characters, none are clones, assume all vets are returning:
Prince of Sable
King K Rool
Tell me why this roster that I thiugh up in two minutes is better than the shit one Hackurai gave us after years of dev time.
its still dads uncle at nintendo tier, but thats just because no one wants this to be the final roster and sadly it looks like it will be.
there is some, although very little, evidence that this is real but even that is speculative.
but its real anon.
It's disrespectful to the man who made the game. Everybody could have found out the roster in a mere two weeks if he hadn't done this.
Who says I "like" the leak? It's information, everybody is going to post and discuss it regardless of whether they think it was right to leak it or not.
I actually used to work as a janitor at Nintendo of America and they were always happy and coming up with new ideas to make fans happy. Of course money is part of it but they DO want to make us happy. Sakurai would've released Smash 4 months ago if he didn't want people happy. He could've just made Brawl with a skin. They care.
Now that's a pretty good roster. Much more preferable than the one we have now.
Fuck off the roster is fine, it's just /v/ being obnoxious.
Except there's new characters, stages, mechanics, fixes, and honestly I like Smash 4 more than Melee. He's stated before that he wants all the games to be their own things, this is why he doesn't just make Melee 2.0.
Did leaker say it's the final roster? ERSB just has to see the most objectionable content for its rating after all. DLC also has to be rated separately.
>DH Dog because potential animal cruelty if the violence is too realistic
>BJ because weapons
>Shulk because blades can be violent
You know what is disrespectful, putting in a character no one asked for, just to spite the fans. And then making a fuck ton of clones.
Sakuria needs to know that we pay for his goddamn paycheck at the end of the day, and I certainly won't be paying his paycheck for this one.
>inbf you'll buy it anyway huehuehue
Read this, get caught in an endless loop, and kill yourself.
Just because you're a world-hating bastard doesn't mean everyone is. Some people genuinely enjoy their jobs.
Sure, doesn't mean they're not out to make money, but if you can make people happy whilst you do it why the fuck not? They're not EA.
Yes, i can tell. Sakurai ignoring the multiple fan favorite characters(not just ridley) and wanking his own dick with kid icarus and just adding whatever random characters he wants because he thinks it's funny and then bloating the fucking roster with clones, Not to mention the spiteful way in which he treated tourneyfags with brawl by making the game as casual as he possibly could shows that he cares a lot.
Fuck your fucking face.
"Nani?Ore wa watching Cookingu showu desu"
"Hidoi news Samurai san.Subete leaked"
"Hai Samurai san, subete. Gaijins are aware of Daaku Pitoo"
"It cant be helped, cancel the game"
"Hi, this is Sakurai from Nintendo,Fuck your mother , goodbye to your father, game is cancelled".
hurr durr they have the same final smash so they're the same character!
give me a fucking break, please.
the blaster projectile functions totally differently, the upB is about as similar to Fox's as Lucario's, and the sideB is totally different too, you can't even hit people on the ground with it.
does the fact that none of their smashes, tilts, aerials, jab, or throw are at all similar just not matter to you mouth breathing retards?
or are you like four year olds that only use B moves when playing?
Even if you don't give Sakurai a dime, millions of others will and don't give a heck and at the end of the day he and Nintendo are still rolling in dosh.
I tried the whole "vote with your wallet thing" with Bravely Default but it really didn't do any good. An incredibly minority isn't going to make a huge difference unless the game is really, really, niche, like with NIS' games. It's certainly not going to matter for guaranteed million sellers like SSB.
Well i too am very happy that every game is worse than melee even if this one is slightly better than brawl, thank you sakurai.
>honestly I like Smash 4 more than Melee
That's because you're a fucking casual, or retarded.
This is false. If you cancerous meleefags were to disappear from the face of the earth, Smash and its real fans would be fine, if not better. Let melee rest. No this iteration wont be like it, nor was that the intent. All you meleefags do is make people not want to play Smash because muh floatyness. This is detrimental to the fanbase overall and you guys constantly telling us how melee is what it should be like is sad. I used to like melee but meleefags kill it for me
>Sure, doesn't mean they're not out to make money, but if you can make people happy whilst you do it why the fuck not? They're not EA.
That's like saying "mussolini wasn't that bad, he wasn't hittler or anything". I'm not even saying Nintendo is bad, i'm saying you're fucking retarded for thinking they give two shits about your happiness.
>Sakurai makes games for customers
That's why we have Ridley in right?
This. He comes off as a fucking control freak with all of his values in the wrong places. You'd figure he'd be proud of the fact that something he created brings joy and entertainment to so many people, but no. He's gotta bitch and whine and play favorites. Fuck him.
>not spending your hard earned money on a game you think is shit is now edgy
You and all your loved ones can go die of fucking cancer, is that edgy enough for you you dumb piece of shit?
Well, I certainly wouldn't want to get on the bad side of Sakurai.
Smash would be akin to motherfucking mario party without a competitive fanbase retard.
Melee is what elevated the franchise. Casual assholes play the game for a week and forget it
No, the tripe about Sakurai not deserving to be paid for the incredible amount of work he's put into the Smash series just because he added a few characters/clones you don't like was edgy enough.
So again, see >>259842182
i didnt think you guys were being serious
Nothing, I never said it's bad. Every game should be it's own thing. I don't want a Melee again, because we already HAVE a Melee.
He only added 2 other KI characters, and Kirby has 2 characters too. He doesn't add all of the characters we want because then he'll run out for the next game. He doesn't think it's funny, and clones are NEEDED. They were originally skins but he didn't want people thinking that Sonic would have a shit ton of skins of say, Shadow. I loved Brawl too. I loved Subspace, I loved everything. Also tournyfags are maybe 2 percent of the entire fanbase. He would rather please a shit ton of casuals than a few tourneyfags.
Faster doesn't mean better you fuck. The graphics, mechanics, moves, characters, stages, everything is better. Just because I can't use wavedashing doesn't mean it's worse.
How many casuals know who Ridley even is?
People who actually want ridley in are an extremely vocal, but small minority.
Also, people like you who are always bitching about wanting ridley in are the reason WFT happened
I know, but as someone who wants to get into the entertainment business, (anything really, comics, movies, I dont care), it bugs me to hell that there are people who simply DO NOT listen to their fans.
If it's going to sell millions regardless of how shitty it is, why not just appeal to the vocal minority who actually GIVE A SHIT about the game, then everyone wins.
But no, fuck the fans who really care, we'll get enough money anyway.
Do you really think that many casuals have played Melee? Brawl only had Ridley and people just moved on thinking it's just a boss for Brawl or just a boss from a game they don't care about. Melee didn't have many sales.
I too wish tourneyfags would catch ebola and bleed out their eyes. Melee's a fine game. So was Brawl. So was the original. So will this one. I can play any and enjoy them immensely.
Fucking butthurt tourneyfags can't keep their mouths shut. You love Melee so much, go play it and stfu. Nobody's interested in Melee 2.0.
do you see all those letters you typed?
worthless. you are wrong. its okay though, we are all wrong sometimes. you are wrong now, and you are the only one arguing your stance, and multiple people arguing against you. you need to realize when people use the term 'clone' for this game just seeming close enough is enough to qualify. fox falco and wolf are the same characters, their model is the same, their moveset is the same, their style is the same. just because the programmers change a variable so fox kicks 1m and falco kicks 1.1m doesn't make them seperate.
please stop. your investigations into their movesets makes you all the more sad when all you see is minor variations when everyone else seems the same thing. its literal autism. not joking, not meming, not buzzwording. what you are doing is literal autism.
>it's ok that he took a shit on tourneyfags because there's only 2 of them
You're a fucking retard.
>He only added 2 other KI characters
Plus a billion items, enemies, trophies, i'm sure you've seen the picture so don't even play the fool.
>He doesn't add all of the characters we want because then he'll run out for the next game
That's a fucking bullshit excuse, not to mention that he is REMOVING CHARACTERS FROM EVERY GAME.
>and clones are NEEDED.
Clones are not fucking needed.
>I loved Subspace
I did too, but Sakurai in his usual manchild spiteful demeanor decided that he would never do it again because the cutscenes leaked online.
>How many casuals know who Ridley even is?
Not only has Ridley been in every smash game to date, but he was voted in the top 4 for Brawl in Japan AND every single discussion EVERYWHERE about Smash ends up talking about Ridley, i'm fairly sure that by this point EVERYONE knows who Ridley is.
>Faster doesn't mean better you fuck.
Typical fucking ignorant response from someone that doesn't even play videogames, you probably just play smash drunk with your friends and don't even pay attention, because if you did you would know that BRAWL DOESN"T EVEN HAVE FUCKING COMBOS YOU UPSIDEDOWN NEANDERTHAL
I actually misread your post and didn't see you were talking about you personally buying the game.
But, I feel less stupid in comparison to you after a post like >>259842891, so it's okay.
Mac, Megaman, Wario and Ike.
OH WAIT THEY ALL MADE IT IN. Stop trying to assume things and strawman stupid retarded arguments because you disagree with me about Sakurai not being a flawless game dev.
>I know, but as someone who wants to get into the entertainment business, (anything really, comics, movies, I dont care), it bugs me to hell that there are people who simply DO NOT listen to their fans.
You're acting kind of entitled. You're asking Sakurai to change who he wants to put in who would appeal to the majority to satisfy a very small minority. It's going to have 99% of people playing it say "literally who". He'd rather put in loved characters that EVERYBODY knows than alienate the main audience of the game.
>But no, fuck the fans who really care
If you really cared you'd play the game and have fun with it even if that character you wanted isn't in.
Awesome roster, although I'm not a fan of Groose. If Zelda were going to get another rep, I would easily give it to ALttP-style pig Ganon with a unique moveset. Kind of disgusting that it hasn't already happened.
Don't like a specific character being in or not in the leaks? Can't believe Sakurai would stoop so low as to put in Dr. Mario and Dark Pit? Subscribe to my convenient theory (>>259806598) and everything is all better!
>i'm not going to read your post because it's easier for me to cover my ears and go lalalalala like a retard
That's ok, if you're this stupid then it's pointless to even talk to you.
Thank god i'm not a kid/teenager in this fucking shitty era.
Where's the magic of playing games? Unlocking new characters and discovering shit yourself? Gone forever because kiddies don't have the fucking patience to figure shit out on their own. Even if you avoid spoiling yourself on the internet, everyone will damn make sure you hear it one way or another.
Now, everything is shown even before the damn game hits the shelves. There's no intrigue or mysteries left in gaming. No wonder it's dying.
What's the fucking point of not revealing all the characters if everyone is going to find out about them before playing the game anyway? Not to mention the games comes first in japan and only for 3DS too.
I'd like to see Ridley in the game at some point, but as I don't want his size or strength compromised I'm not overly sure he'd work, or at least work very well.
Maybe, who knows.
>less than stellar job
>a few character choices you disagree with in a huge, fun party fighter with tons of modes/stages/items/characters/secrets/extras
I guess your ego is so massively inflated that you assume when you don't like something, everyone must not like it.
But the majority doesn't give a fuck about who is in the game, they're going to buy it because it's smash bros.
I guess I do feel a bit entitled, i've been a fan since the 64, and every smash iteration just seems worse and worse.
>If you really cared you'd play the game and have fun with it even if that character you wanted isn't in.
Except I've been doing that for every past smash game, and i'm just done.
>tfw you want both shulk and Chrom in
>tfw shulks fans are nicer
>tfw you want Chrom in more
Hating Sakurai is the worst fucking thing you faggots started. I don't even like the Duck Hunt Dog, but it's a logical choice.
"bwaahhh my childhood character isn't in, instead he put popular characters!!!" Fuck you.
Fuck Mewtwo, he's a shit character that people only want because of nostalgia, there's already THREE Pokémon from gen 1.
Fuck Ridley. I like him, but ridleyfaggots are the worst. He's a difficult character to make and is good as a boss.
Stop crying because YOUR personal favorite character isn't in. If you dislike Bowser Jr just because he replaced the Koopalings (muh mario world) or doesn't even know Shulk you don't have the right to complain about the roster. It's a Nintendo game, if you don't know shit about Nintendo fuck off. There's a better place for faggots like you guys, it's called Youtube. Post "remember dis if u r 90s kid", you'll fit.
Sorry can't defend him now only because Ganondorf, that shit was unacceptable
>Typical fucking ignorant response from someone that doesn't even play videogames
Not him but the only ignorant here it's you, Street Fighter 4 is the slowest game in the series, yet it receives just as much praise as the previous games. SFxT is a much faster game, yet it got shitted throw at it.
Oh so are you going to spend extra time to please a VERY small amount of people?
Yea, there's like 8 at most. And enemies only matter in Smash Run anyways. Also trophies don't matter in the first place.
>removing characters from every game
False, he's removing clones and replacing them. With a few exceptions like Snake, but Snake doesn't even fit in the game in the first place because it's a much lighter game.
That's because he put a shit ton of care and work in them, he doesn't want people to just watch cutscenes and not buy the game, because that's actually what lowered sales.
The only people who actually research into the games are already fans of them. Casuals don't do polls, they don't vote, and they don't discuss. Not everyone knows who Ridley is.
I never did combos in the first place though, and yes it did with certain characters. I don't care about certain small aspects that affect competitive play, I just want to have FUN with my friends. Instead of wanting a non competitive game to become competitive you should grab some friends and actually play with them with items on and everything.
Because it adds to the roster and fixes certain things on certain characters, and then you use either on of them depending on your tactics.
Look at this fucking board.
Look at all the post shitting on this game.
People think this new game looks like shit, deny it all you want, keep telling yourself thats its only a few people, but it's the fucking truth.
Are you seriously this ignorant nigger?
There have been people all day that have said they're okay with this roster. There are people all over the internet that are saying they're okay with this roster.
You're ignoring them and noticing only the people going "HOLY SHIT WORST ROSTER EVER 0/10, GET FUCKED SAKURAI" people.
There are people that have issues only being Dark Pit and Dr. Mario and maybe Duck Hunt but are generally fine with the roster.
>I would be mad to if my shitty roster was leaked. I remember when the SSBB roster was leaked and I was happy with it but this roster is noticeably shitty.
B-b-b-but its the same roaster plus new people. So for you to be disappointed is to be disappointed before.
When people don't like something they post loud and often. I suppose nothing logical I say can convince you so we'll just have to wait until the shitstorms cease, people start playing the game, and then we'll see just what the verdict on the roster is.
why do you fags act like Sakurai is the only person who works on these games
Ok, let me rephrase.
Here on /v/ for some reason that i cannot understand, the majority of anons give Sakurai a free pass on almost everything. I honestly do not understand this mentality especially here where any mistake any other developer makes results in most anons crucifying him for it.
Now i'm not saying that everyone should just blindly hate Sakurai in the same way that everyone blindly hates EA and Bioware, but Sakurai in my opinion, has been making an assloads of mistakes since Melee(as in, he made mistakes with melee too), from gameplay mechanics, to roster choices, to other bizarre decisions he makes, but when someone points them out there is always a group of people that try to rationalize it and try to give Sakurai a free pass.
Basically Sakurai has a dedicated defense force here on /v/, on top of that since Japan time with the Brawl Dojo because of the shitposting wars we had with the smashboards tourneyfags mainly Dylantnga or whatever his name was, now there's this stigma here on /v/ against tourneyfags, and while i do think it's ridiculous that tourneyfags are so serious about fucking smash out of all things, i think it's stupid that they're treated like this unhappy boogeyman shitposter whenever someone disagrees or dislikes something that the new smash game is doing.
You know why you faggots are dissatisfied?
Because it was a terrible anticlimactic leak. All of these characters had their fancy reveal coming up to excite you with, but just seeing them all in a list like this is not going to get anyone excited.
Reminder that the game has fucking Mega Man in it. Probably the most anticipated character possible. It was a mistake to reveal him so early, as people have already forgotten him.
That shit was stupid. In hindsight, Im surprised that edgy shit didnt make me hate Geno (and I wanted him in too.)
The only reason Id like Geno to be in the game in now is for the Forest Maze song
Him wanting to not have leaks and keep things a surprise for the player is fucking horse shit.
Everywhere outside of Nippon gets it late so they don't get to have a perfect flawless spoilerless experience either way. There's nothing wrong with us leveling the playing field so that we can know the leaks, considering how we'll get spoiled anyway. Not to say that we need to be salty and take away the Jap's enjoyment from them, but if they're not going to give a shit about us in this then we have no obligation to them either.
i was born in 85, with the NES being the SECOND system i owned (atari being first).
Duck Hunt is well ingrained into my memory and I'm glad this very odd pick for a roster slot is getting in.
sf4 doesn't punish you for fucking approaching. SF in general has always replaced mechanics. SFxT was also slow as shit and plagued with timeouts. Besides that, the major reason it got shit on was because it was half a game with unreleased, disc locked content for half a year. It' a somewhat decent game with the patch, but the damage is already done
>Fuck off. I'm happy with the roster. Period.
-A man eating shit
>where any mistake any other developer makes results in most anons crucifying him for it.
Are you blind? Kojima and pretty much any small japanese developer (like Compile Hearts) gets a free card from /v/ for making shitty decisions regarding games.
Ridley is just like Geno. It's a fucking fad to want him in the game. They heard someone say they wanted them in, and suddenly this character they would not have even thought about otherwise they wish was in the game.
The same thing happened with Shulk. Practically no one played his game, but there was buzz about him so everyone wanted him in suddenly.
Upon being asked by Sakurai if "he ever made a game" the man responded with his own question "have you ever made a good game?", immediately Sakurai opened his mouth to speak only to stop before words formed, his expression perplexed as if searching every wrinkle of his brain. After a good five minutes, Sakurai whispered, but no one heard, when asked to speak up Sakurai screamed in a fit of rage, clutching his Palutena dakimakura "NO", repeatedly, tears streaming down his face, his voice going hoarse. "NO NO NO!" After his tantrum, Sakurai was asked to reiterate "No" he said "I have never made a good game".
>because we got to see nintendo characters interact with each other.
The character intros do a better job of that since we don't have to play a bunch of boring shit to see the handful of good moments.
That's right, I'm from Reddit because you said so. That completely proves I'm wrong and you're right, even though your answer to my first post was "you're a shitposter" just because I don't agree with you.
>an favorite characters(not just ridley)
The footage looks convincing enough, but I'm inclined to not believe all this nonsense because of all these obnoxious shitposters.
I wouldn't want to group myself with all-caps, BTFO, and
Like seriously, I thought that people were supposed to be over an age to browse this imageboard.
Nothing to do with a loud vocal minority of faggots spamming their hatred over and over again, right? How much of the gaming populaton do you think /v/ makes up? Really? The rest of the internet won't even talk to you fuckers.
Read what I wrote retarded meleefag. Melee was a good game. Smash 4 should have/deserves a competitive fanbase. All im saying is that you meleefags should get meleed by melee's dick in silence. You are Smash's cancer. You arent getting another melee
>Yea, there's like 8 at most. And enemies only matter in Smash Run anyways. Also trophies don't matter in the first place.
Oh excuse me, i didn't know you had autism and you would interpret my post as literally meaning "there is one billion items from kid icarus in smash"
>False, he's removing clones and replacing them
Snake, Mewtwo, Squirtle, Ivysaur, Ice Climbers, all removed, all not clones.
Wolf, Lucas were both luigified clones, they had different specials, different stas like weight and speed and strength and most if not all of their normals were different. Both cut.
In the case of those last two it wouldn't be such a big problem, but it is because he is replacing them with more CLONES.
Lucina, Sakurai himself said she is just like Marth but without the tipper damage, this already makes her inferior to Wolf and Lucas.
Toon Link, he took Young Link's place and while Toon Link is also luigified to some extent, he isn't as luigified as Wolf and Lucas, and yet he is still here, same thing applies to Falco.
On top of that, we got Dr Mario now, who has no excuse for being a separate character when we have alt costumes now and we have Dark Pit who by all means he could be a unique character because of all the items that are in Kid Icarus Uprising, but as far as we know right now, he is a clone too in the same way that Lucina is, which also makes him worse than Wolf and Lucas.
On top of all that we have Characters like Ganondorf being a clone of Captain Falcon after 3 fucking games, he is fucking Ganondorf for god's sake, he is the third most important character in Zelda and he gets worse treatment than characters from fucking Fire Emblem.
So yes, he removed clones, but he also removed original characters, and he is not replacing all of them with original characters and on top of that he is adding more clones. And if those "clones" result to be "luigified" they may still be removed in the next game, and we'll be here in this same argument again.
Why the fuck does everybody want Ridley in? Do you ACTUALLY want Ridley in or has it just become a le epic maymay so people follow it blindly?
He would be like fucking Charizard except less known.
People who cry about Ganondorf are almost worse than the people who cry about Ridley. Honestly, I MUCH prefer him giving magic infused, bare-knuckle beat downs on people over OH BOY HE HAS DUMB LITTLE SWORDS. I don't care if he's still a Falcon clone. Plus, I'd be straight up mad if they took away the Wizard Choke, Warlock Punch, and his upward dive that could either end in an uppercut or a magic rape. Face it. Him using swords is a lame fit. The one he pulls out for his taunt is puny and pathetic and the giant one he had from his Melee victory is just dumb GIANT SWORD SO EPIC AND BADASS shit. If they ever changed his moveset, I'd rather see them give him pig Ganon's trident but even then, I'd still rather see him stick to hand to hand.
I'm so glad samuri didn't cave to the legion of retards wanting him to ruin ganondorf's moveset.
the only suggestion that I could have lived with was to shift the old heavy cap playstyle onto black shadow, and give dorf a new fighting style.
This so much, and even then 3DS players get it before Wii U players, so the only people who are going to get these characters as a surprise are japanese people buying the game on 3DS.
I don't care if he's a Falcon clone either. But, I care about him being Brawl tier shit. He's too fucking fat and too fucking slow while also being too fucking weak. That is unacceptable.
He really hasn't. You might have personal gripes with Brawl because in your eyes it wasn't as good as the predecessor, but it was by no means a bad game. It had great graphics (for the wii that is), great music, played
funand had a large amount of content.
>Do you ACTUALLY want Ridley in or has it just become a le epic maymay
>asking this on /v/
The fuck do you think.
>bug ridden melee
>brawl has more bugs
I hope I have finally escaped this shithole before then.
Seriously, they should just put "ABANDON ALL HOPE YE WHO ENTER HERE" on the fucking front page of this site.
You hate everyone here. Everyone hates you. Everyone says stupid shit. No one cares about facts when debating anything. 90% of everything is shit posts. And yet you never fucking leave.
We don't need another Melee. Melee is fine just the way it is. What we do need is an actual good Smash game that can outlive it's predecessor.
The fact that Melee lived on and Brawl fucking died is an embarrassment.
We don't know what tweaks and buffs he got for Smash 4 though so complaining about that now is a moot point. We can't judge shit from the video leak because it was coming from a shit level CPU. Bowser was fucking trash in Brawl and Melee and we all so how improved he was. It's likely that Ganondorf got a balance overhaul as well.
A good, balanced diet of quality posting and shitposting is necessary to a stable and happy internet life, anon. I never try and have serious discussion on here. I do it all on SA, since blatantly ignoring facts just to instigate will get you probated/banned.
I wish there was more variations in hand held weapon users.
Rather than swordsman, how about spear uses, axe users, battle mace users, trident plus net users, scythe users, etc
Well, I dunno if that's so much happily giving him a free pass or begrudgingly accepting that doubling your blood pressure online isn't going to change x or y. Without asking everyone we'll never know. That must be what it comes down to, cos yeah I agree there's been plenty of mistakes in every Smash game, but it's just not worth killing yourself over when games are supposed to be fun. At least there's now four iterations, so most peoples' preferences should be fairly well covered since they're a little different to each other.
lol well like you say they do themselves no favours. I know I can't be arsed wasting time on someone that has a rage-on over a video game, especially when they have something like Project M catering to their tastes pretty damn well. I roll my eyes whenever I see one post, and their posts are always so aggressive, holier than thou etc....cos obviously if you're not a hardcore tourneyfag you're of course a casual, right?
People would probably respond better if tourneyfags weren't swinging right outta the gate.
>Smash 4 should have/deserves a competitive fanbase.
Smash 4 won't last a month competitively. You need some depth to the mechanics in the game so the skill ceiling isn't reached in a week and people get bored of it. The reason people still play melee is because people are still learning new techniques today.
Fucking nintendrones want a fucking rehash melee 2.0
Let the man do his thing. Je is the only good game developer on this dead company.
Get your head out your ass and respect the samurai.
I'd be fine with this just so long as Ganondorf's moveset doesn't become more fucking swords. I'm with these guys in that the trident would be better. >>259847198 >>259847579
>mfw I actually wanted Palutena to get in
>mfw based Charizard is no longer held down by FLUDD the turtle and Leafy McBulletseed
>mfw Greninja, Robin, and Little Mac look fun as fuck
>mfw Ike blew out Chromfags, Gematsufags, and patternfags alike
>mfw Bowser reigns supreme
>mfw Samus is no longer held down by ZSS
I'm happy as fuck about this roster.
Chibi Robo and Mysterious Castle are shit games. Get over it, autists.
>Implying it isn't just PM/Meleefags desparetely trying to discredit a man just because
Your roster is ass, faggotron
Hopefully he gets so assblasted he quits video games forever and goes to play with his Palutena and Dark Pit figurines in his closet, devoting all other spare time to writing his fanfiction.
The ruddy cunt.
Not really. I like it because I like fighting games and Nintendo characters. It being party just makes it more fun.
I like x1 without items too, and I agree Brawl wasn't that good for it as Melee, but it's a good game and my main problem with it were tripping and how powerful MK was (things I think Sm4sh changed).
Of course it was better.
More unique characters.
>b-but wavedashing is not a bug
Smash bros is literally a party game.
Cobtain your autism or kill yourself.
Just play melee if you want to play melee.
>doc mario's not c-coming back! he plays the same!
>lucas is obviously getting in fuck you man
I told you shit-eating faggots, but no one listened. Let me hear those tears, assgoblins.
Jesus christo. You miserable twats. You do realize we're supposedly getting DARK PIT, right?
Just had to make sure, because you're defending this so zealously you'd think we had the most wonderful, original characters revealed and that people were upset about it.
I'm a fan of KI and think Pit is a great character in Brawl/PM, and I still think this is complete bollocks if true. Especially after all that sobbing Sakurai did in that one interview about clones being bad for Smash.
I don't play either, I just wanted to call out obvious shitposting.
Is your only argument fedora? Fucking retard. My two minute roster is infinitely better than Sakurai's. Not just because clones. Le u didn't expect me gurl, le NES peripheral, tongue frog that should have been hawlucha, cut multiple original characters, overrepresentaion of FE and KI,and the wrong melee returning vet are just some of the many things wrong with Smash 4's roster.
I'm just going to live in denial until the game gets released.
This is a dream right?
>the rumble was shit
>the sound effects were shit
>color palette darker and edgier for the tween audience
>compared to every other smash brothers which was colorful and vibrant
>numerous removed single player features
>You do realize we're supposedly getting DARK PIT, right?
There is no definitive proof of that.
As for the rest of the post, try again WITHOUT the blatant argumentum ad hominem.
try again WITHOUT the blatant argumentum ad hominem.
No, it really isn't. You just listed shit people have been parroting for their dream rosters for years now. Just because you like the characters does NOT mean they would make interesting fighters. Tom Nook would not be a good fighter, you fuck.
I don't follow why people are dissing Duck Hunt Dog when the real focus should be going to Doc, Dark Pit, and Shulk. At least Duck Hunt Dog has the possibility for an interesting move set and isn't a clone or another fucking sword user.
Melee fans are cancer, they don't even know the fire emblem characters and call them weeaboo shit.
It's like the old dotards who had no idea of warcraft 3 and still played the tryhard pseudo-hardcore excuse of a game
Funny how Sakurai went out to not do SSE again because it was leaked on the internet and then the game that intentionally does not have something like SSE gets its stuff leaked anyway.
What an interconnected world we live in.
I guess if anything that is the lesson Sakurai should take from this.
You can't weaken the leakin'.
>Le u didn't expect me gurl, le NES peripheral, tongue frog that should have been hawlucha, cut multiple original characters, overrepresentaion of FE and KI,and the wrong melee returning vet are just some of the many things wrong with Smash 4's roster.
Not him but if you are going to dismiss Smash4 roster using those arguments, your roster can easily be dismissed by "LITERALLY WHO?" or
"no one asked for this this character"