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>consecutive string of mediocre to awful sequels and spinoffs after 4 released
>a remaster of the two best games is released, and it manages to be worse than the original games
>2 nor 3 are on Steam yet for some oddity
>a really mediocre film that's after a pretty good film
>a sequel being headlined by two shitty writers

it sucks to be sh fans
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I still have hope kojima might be able to make a good one, especially with plenty of ito influence, but this is literally the last chance.
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>>259275859
I hate Konami more than any publisher there is.
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>>a really mediocre film that's after a pretty good film
>after a pretty good film
Other than that, yeah, it has been pretty shitty to say the least.
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>>259275859
try resident evil. those awful movies destroyed any hope of the franchise recovering.
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They have the best waifu though.
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>>259276505

lel and those 5 shitty resident evil movies and shitty re6 is any better? Kojima Hills looks way more promosing that anything resident evil can shit out this decade
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I don't understand people who say they like the first Silent Hill, it's completely forgettable and filled with to the brim with stupid fucking moments, it even shoves in Pyramid Head for no reason.

Sure, it looked pretty at moments, and had nice music which was taken from the game, but holy shit, just because Revelations was bad it doesn't mean the original gets a free pass.
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>>259275859
>mediocre

nigger i'm playing silent hill 3 right now and the gameplay is beyond mediocre, it's abysmal.
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>>259276871

*the first Silent Hill movie.

Is what I mean, obviously.

Don't hit me.
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You mean a fucking awful film right faggot?
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>>259276871

eh I enjoyed the first movie. Don't really give a shit if pyramid head is in the movie.
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>>259276871
It managed to nail the atmosphere pretty well and had Laurie Houlden in tight leather pants so it could have been worse. Story was retarded and the Sean Bean scenes were pointless but it was one of the better film adaptations of a video game that's been made.
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>>259275859
It doesn't really help that Silent Hills looks nothing like a Silent Hill game. They should let the series rest in peace.
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>>259276339
>>259277076

yeah the first sh film was good for a game film

i mean they could be worse, they could be the re films
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>>259276339
If you went to watch Silent Hill: The Game: The Movie, it was shit, no arguments there.

But if you just watched a horror flick name Silent Hill it wasn't half bad.
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>>259275859
>>259276336
>I hate Konami more than any publisher there is.

>awesome series of 2D side-scrollers that gradually evolved over time and gave a name to whole [sub]-genre "mertoidvania"
>amazing achievement in spoken genre with SoTN, decent follow ups with GBA/DS games
>then suddenly Konami, seeing the scuess of the series, completely ignore the factors of why it was so successful and wants to appeal to wider audience of casual by making it 3D
>every 3D castlevania barely makes it, starting from N64
>they keep pushing it
>finally the completely ruin it with LoS2 as expected
>and this is probably not the end

This is why I want to kill people
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>>259277419
>shown nothing from the game yet
>Kojima said the PT is completely different from main game

Stop being a fucking faggot. We know nothing yet.
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>>259275859
>Tfw all i wanna do is play 1 2 3 4 on the ps3
is there any way without the collection?
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There's a handful of good games, I don't feel that bad for them.
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>>a sequel being headlined by two shitty writers

How does being a retard feel?
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are the HD releases really that bad? I heard a patch fixed most of the problems people had with it
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>>259277419
>being this stupid
kojima said pt is not like sh
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>>259277769

1 is on PS1 classics, and if you really want to torture yourself the patched SH HD is much better than the original product. otherwise no
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>>259277925
I didn't know del Toro was a writer. As a professional and passionate one.
Otherwise I'm a writer too.
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>>259277928

I have it on the ps3 and it plays fine. Just faggots crying over little things.
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>>259277928

Apparently the ps3 got more love than the 360 release. Either way, the games are playable on the PC so why bother shelling out money to play inferior forms of the game?
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>>259277726
I really hope it will trun well but the demo didn't looked like Silent Hill at all, there even was a fucking jumpscare in. I really hope the game will be nothing like PT but godamn, it's worrying.
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>>259276871
It's a vidya movie. Expectations were extremely low. Then, we got a director that sort of "got" it, and tons upon tons of studio interference. I can promise you that the studio execs pushed for Pyramid Head to be in there, among other things.
Hell, I'm surprised they got away without a happy end.
Also, check out Jacob's Ladder, it's the movie the Silent Hill aesthetic is based on.
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>>259278243

this is obviously bait, but when you have the original creator mocking a shitty remaster, its a shitty remaster
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>>259278174
yo wat m8
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>>259278572
>but when you have the original creator mocking a shitty remaster
Now hold your horses there anon
thjis would require a srouce link
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>>259278698
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>>259278345
>I really hope the game will be nothing like PT but godamn, it's worrying.

That's exactly what it said in the end
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>>259278243
>I have it on the ps3 and it plays fine. Just faggots crying over little things.

It is easily, EASILY the worst version of them all.

I mean, the games have been released on the PC, for fucks sake. Just play that version instead, everyone has a PC that can run it by now.
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>>259278691
Twas an attempt at sarcasm
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>>259277928
It was developed by a mobile games developer, without any affiliation with the original developing team or willingness to pay loyalties to the original voice actors. That's how much Konami wanted to cut the budget.

And the absence of SH4 is completely unjustifiable, given that Konami was the one that decided to include the title with the franchise.
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>>259278956
Sarcasm doesn't translate well through the internet.
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>>259278854

>muh fog

literally autism
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>>259278937

even on a pirated copy the installation process for SH2/SH3 is a biiiiitch for PC. emulating the games through PCSX2 is much better
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>>259278854
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masahiro_Ito
>In 2012, Masahiro Ito stated on his Twitter that he would be willing to work on another Silent Hill game with Hideo Kojima.[3]

HAPPENINGS
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>>259279147
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>>259279147

HD Collection babby detected.
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>>259278970
well i still have a ps2 that works, so i take it i should just get 2-4 on that? My PC can run it but I would like to have a physical copy of these games
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>>259277065
I just finished it and the gameplay was pretty good
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>>259279147
>>muh fog
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>literally autism

literally autism
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What is really sad is that Shattered Memories were nothing like other sequels para siting on SH franchise and foundation and yet it was damn good concept and game.

The developer probably ate their own fingers while making it, after they realized half-way through what they are shaping this into and why it is so bad it had to bear SH name on it

Fucking Konami.
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>>259277769

>tfw PS2 ISOs upscaled on the PS3 is better than the HD collection

It's sad, really.
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Silent hill being handled by kojima is the best possible thing that has happened to this series for a while.

Come on now, or would you rather have them to give the franchise to some random western chuckfucks developers?

I'm a bit scared since Koji doesn't have any terror in his history but they have Del toro to cover that up.
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>>259277065

I bet he likes the new resi evils
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>>259279772
>Silent hill being handled by kojima is the best possible thing that has happened to this series for a while.
Can't argue with that.
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>>259279772

i'd rather let the series go the way of bomberman
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>>259279532
Yes you should. I have 1-4 on the ps2 and I love it.
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>>259279772
Kojima already killed Castlevania. Silent Hill is dead.
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>>259277065

>abysmal gameplay

Speak for yourself, the combat is tight for me. I never get tired of shanking niggas with the knife or getting perfect strikes with the maul.
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>>259275859
>Silent Hill fans are fucking unfortunate
More like obnoxious and toxic as fuck. When you're represented and influenced by those dickwad autists at Twin Perfect you deserve all the shit Konami throws at you.
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>>259279235
>even on a pirated copy the installation process for SH2/SH3 is a biiiiitch for PC

You serious nigga? I remember installing it about 8 months ago straight from thepiratebay, and it was as straightforward as I could hope. SH2, by the way.
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>>259278956
>Twas
Faaaaaag
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>>259279772
>ywf kojima has to save every Konami franchise they managed to beat to death

>>259280068
>Kojima already killed Castlevania.
After the fiasko with LoS2, a developer from Mercury leaked some info on breddit, mentioning that Kojima literally (and yes, i sue this word properly here) had nothing to do with both Projects, he was just there for the sake of the name. He never contributed anything or revised anything. Nor the heads of MErcury wanted him to.
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>>259279772
>I'm a bit scared since Koji doesn't have any terror in his history
Neither did the creator of the Silent Hill series before making it.
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Playing through SH2 now and i don't understand the hype. it's been mediocre at best so far.
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>>259279235
>>259279235
>>259279235

Only if your a retard.
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>>259280319
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Kojima has wanted to make a silent hill game for a long time, i think his track record more than proves he is capable of making a great game. I think he will put more pressure on himself for this to be good than we are. Its in good hands
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>>259280437
Mercurysteam developed Lords of Shadow as a new IP. Konami was about to can the game until Mercurysteam showed a playable demo in a meeting at which Kojima was present. It was Kojima's idea to rebrand the game as a Castlevania title, that's why his name was attached to the title.
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>>259275859
It's not that Silent Hill fans are unlucky, it's just that the survival horror genre, or just horror as a genre in general, died with the Playstation 1. There was such an oversaturation of the games instead of a slow trickle that by the time they realized they had something on their hands the genre was already dead.

It sucks, but what can you do about it? Short of just having the whole industry and everyone making games now and in the future to stay off the genre for a decade or two, so the next horror games are actually legitimately scary. People just aren't as easily scared by that shit anymore, and once that inevitably happened, sometime after Silent Hill 2 released, the genre was dead.

The worst part is that to make a successful horror game, you have to walk an extremely fine line.
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>>259277458
Only good thing about the first movie was that they used the original soundtrack. The plot was fanfiction tier with awful characters, edgey melodrama, and copy pasted monsters with no connection to the story. It should have the best game to do an adaptation of but they gave it to the wrong people and there's almost no chance of a good remake.
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>>259278345
Silent Hill had jump scares. Jump scares are useful for horror. You cannot maintain fear on atmosphere alone. No matter how creepy something looks, if there is never any surprise, the player may trust his surroundings at face value. That trust often eliminates a player's fear, as the unknown is the best source of fear.
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>>259281350
Yeah, and? His involvement was minimal starting from the first title
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>>259281953
He fucked the franchise in the ass with that brilliant decision of his.
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>>259282221
>don't get involved more than putting your name all over it
>He fucked the franchise in the ass with that brilliant decision of his.

damn, i forgot it is /v/, the source of autism and cancer
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>>259281780
>You cannot maintain fear on atmosphere alone

You can stretch the atmosphere longer than you think if you pace it well enough. The really fucked environments can be placed much later on
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>>259282701
Are you dense or what? He called a shitty stand alone game that was about to be cancelled Castlevania and Konami went on to publish it. Not only that, but it had a shitty sequel and 3DS game, too.
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>>259280165
the way you say it makes me think that silent hill is similar to monster hunter. oh wait, i just played the alessa bossfight. it's beyond awful.

>>259279545
i wonder what is shit gameplay for you. must be a short list.
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>>259283124
>Are you dense
judging by the rest of your post and angry repleisi n general - you are the dense person here
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>>259278937
>>259278937
>>259279235
>>259279235
>>259279762
>>259279762


I could run SH3 on a dell not-gaming laptop from 05 at like 3000x3000 at 25-30fps and it looked incredible.
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>>259275859
So where's the aftershot?
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>>259283603
Is that like your counter argument? Konami and Kojima are the reason Castlevania got fucked up.
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>>259277458
>>259277535
The first movie is shit where the only redeeming quality is how hilarious it was to see PH skin that girl and bits of music from the games. It wasn't "good for a game file' because that is' just admitting it's shit. It certainly doesn't compare to the greatest videogame film ever Mortal Kombat
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>>259283971
No, i don't argue with insane basement-dwellers on 4chan when I see one. I tried, but your response was more than enough to don't give a fuck
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I think that Team Silent is the most overrated dev team ever assembled. Yamaoka is half of the game and he isn't even part of TS + whoever was in charge for technical stuff.

Gameplay is shit, map design is copypasted, lore is iffy, english dub is laughable, puzzles ... there are several good puzzles. There are very many mediocre and downright puzzlingly bad ones. Silent Hill 3 is among the very worst games that I've played when it comes to mechanics.
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>>259284860
He's right though. Castlevania is dead due to Kojima.
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>>259285082
A vile attempt, anon. I do not idolize Kojima, not dislike so all your efforts in vain.

Kojima has nothing to do with it. Retarded Konami and their choice to let Mercurysteam to tinker with it was the reason of downfall.
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>>259285485
>http://www.siliconera.com/2012/08/02/hideo-kojima-turned-lords-of-shadow-into-castlevania-lords-of-shadow/

Right.
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>>259285707
>Right.

>>259281953
>Yeah, and? His involvement was minimal starting from the first title

>>259280437
>He never contributed anything or revised anything.
>>259280437
>he was just there for the sake of the name


Again, if you did bother to read.

It is not Kojima's fault game is shit. Decision he made is not related to quality of new Castlevania, it is shit because MercurySteam is a shit and mediocre developers, who simply jizzed themselves once they got hands on this license.
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>>259285707
http://www.vg247.com/2014/02/28/castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-dev-discusses-troubled-development-blames-director-for-mediocre-game/
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>>259286465
>>259285707
>"He explained that he experienced a degree of “hell” during Lords of Shadow 2 development, and stressed that Hideo Kojima actually had little to do with the first game. “He came by, set a seal, visited the studio, signed some things and that was it. He had even less to do with Mirror of Fate and LoS2,” they claimed."

Wow, fucking Kojima, signed that damn thing and made a shitty castlevania game

What a fag! Dear /v/ please support me in my hate crusade!
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>>259282728
Does what I said imply that you can't?
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>>259286465
>>259286308
It's Kojima's fault that shitty game became a Castlevania game, though.
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>>259286882
No, it is Konami's fault they wanted to steer away from old good track and what made castlevania awesome and try to appeal to wider western audience with their shitty attempts at God of Vania.

Nobody from old TA complained about SoTN clones every year or two, only retarded snobs from so-called "game press". I fucking loved every GBA and DS game and I wouldn't mind more.

fuck this shitty peasant 3d shit
fuck koname
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>>259275859
There are much much worse franchises to be fans of
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>>259288015

like Neptunia!
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>>259287735
>http://www.siliconera.com/2012/08/02/hideo-kojima-turned-lords-of-shadow-into-castlevania-lords-of-shadow/
>Cox says that Konami gave the Castlevania license to MercurySteam, only to take it away soon after, as the publisher’s upper management considered the proposed new direction for the series “too radical”.

Konami kinda didn't want to do it in the first place. It was Kojima's decision.
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>>259288165
what
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I long ago accepted that SH was dead. If Kojima misses the mark, he might still give me something close to a really creepy Eternal Darkness. He's good at fucking with the player, so I'll be fine with accepting this new take on things, it won't erase the old games.
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>>259278075
>patched SH
how good is it?
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>>259275859
SH:SM was great eat shit.

Agree on everything else.
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Guys, Silent Hill or Fatal Frame?

Which one is better and why?
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>>259289579
>that fatal frame 4 on wii

No series will ever escape downfall

The only FF games that worth to be played is first 3, the rest is boring rehash shit
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>>259289526
If only it wasn't released under Silent Hill title we would have a whole new survival horror franchise with a decent base.
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>>259290382
Fatal Frame U looks very promising though, hopefully it will be localized
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>>259290536
SH:SM is not the sort of thing you can make into a franchise. You can really only play that card once and make it work.
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>>259275859
>kojima
>shitty writer
Great bait, dude.
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>>259290737
I was talking about the concept itself. They had to shrink and shape it down to meet the whole SH1 remake, but the original idea and base could be worked out differently into something bigger.

We will never know the truth, but i have a feeling Climax had to scrap and re-do their only decent project and make SH out of it. A sad story that happens to such developers often.

Fucking greedy publifags fucking hate them. Fucking Jowood. FUCK THEM
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>>259290935
no anon you are the baits.

>>259291126
theres lods of games that get scrapped into franchises. Happens all the time.

What was their original idea?
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>>259285060
Gameplay is fine what are you talking about. How the fuck is the lore iffy? English dub is also fine. Silent Hill 3 had the best mechanics out of the four.
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>>259293156
>valuing any game outside of first 2

Opinion discarded.
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>>259293603
The first four games are all good, after that it gets shit.
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>>259293603
Silent Hill 3 is the best out of the four tho.
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>>259285060
It's early survival horror. The gameplay is SUPPOSED to be shit.
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>>259294073
Face of /v/
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>>259294996
The first 4 are all great games I just prefer the 3rd one after having recently replayed them.
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>>259275859
>a really mediocre film

you misspelled piece of shit
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>>259295252
Unfortunately I only have these two
:'c
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>>259275859
>Del Toro
>Shitt Writer
>Not having watched Cronos,The Devils Backbone, Pans Labyrinth, Hellboy 2, Pacific Rim
Wow you have shit taste faggot...
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>>259295584
yeah, he's pretty creative, hopefully he doesn't fuck anything up

my expectations are at 0% though
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>>259285060
So everything you just said but opposite is your real opinion
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>>259296110
Aim low and you're never disappointed
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>>259281713
Actually, you're forgetting about the set design and cinematography that mimicks the games. I somehow get the feeling that everyone except the writer of those SH movies actually played the games. It's like they had fans of SH work on the movies but they were given the shittiest script ever.
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>>259294380
nigger you say as if Mikami never existed. Silent Hill is the retarded version of RE, it always went with 'muh atmosphere' (admittedly great) because they could never mimic Mikami's design well.
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>>259297836
...the combat in sh1 was better than resident evil...
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>>259298291
...go away
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Anyone who thinks SH 1 movie is even alright should watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyRhHPxOxQ8
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>>259298629
No seriously, not that either one was particularly good, the combat system in RE was so poorly implemented it almost behaved like turn based combat when it came to melee weapons
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>>259298629
He's right actually, but it didn't emphasis it.
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Do people play Silent Hill because it's scary, or is that secondary to the writing and atmosphere?

I think the teaser showed that at the very least, the fundamentals of horror in the imagery and sound design are there.
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>Everyone saying how brick shittingly scary PT is and how silent hill is saved
>Go play it
>Jumpscares

NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO
WHY DOESN'T ANYONE KNOW WHAT A HORROR GAME IS ANYMORE
FUCK
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>>259300141
I don't know about most people, but I play it for the writing and atmosphere a (which adds to the scare factor) with scariness a close second

What worries me about the silent hills demo is that it seems to rely too heavily on jumpscares instead of the writing/context and disturbing imagery providing the scares like silent hill used too

Since the scares aren't quite like they used too, the atmosphere is very haunted house-like, it's in 1'st person, and a good story has not been confirmed, this could be setting up for a disaster
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Silent Hills is interesting and I imagine the final product will be pretty cool, but I doubt it will fell much like SH.
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>>259300141
I play it for the writing and the psychological aspect.
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>>259300675
The jumpscares are really cheap and shitty, I agree, but I still think it shows that they at least have an idea of what they're doing. It isn't subtle because they've got a hallway to work with and that's it, but they're at least paying attention to the basics. Lighting, grit, and the repetitive household sounds means the boxes are ticked. Every corner, there's something vaguely humanoid shaped sitting there in your peripheral vision.

Again, not subtle, not amazing, but at least they've got a clue.
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>>259300675
Silent hill horror: Disturbing imagery, tension, uncanny valley monsters, atmosphere

Everyone else's horror: JUMP SCARES

kill me now
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>>259300141
the writing is mostly the scary part
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>>259301701

>You will never play through a slow character driven story about people ending up in a foggy town made up of increasingly disturbing imagery whilst gradually piecing together the history of the town and why you ended up there as you descend slowly into madness ever again
>Instead you'll walk into silent hill and BIG LOUD NOISE AAAARRRGH BET THAT FRIGHTENED YOU! PEWDIEPIE APPROVED SCARY OMG PANTS STATUS = SHAT
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>>259275859

Who says Silent Hills will be bad? We don't know squat about it aside from that Norman guy being in it.

And Kojima and Del Toro are hardly shitty. One's mediocre at best, the and the other has some pretty good original ideas at times
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the plot seems to be more of a rip off of SH4 than all the other sequels, which were sort of based on SH2, which is something different at least. SH4 was shit, but the story was great.

I don't know how to feel about it, but still
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>>259302823
see:
>>259301153
>>259301634
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>>259275859

Could be worse they could be Sonic fans.

Or Half-Life fans
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>>259303021

Except it has been fucking confirmed that what was shown in p.t WON'T be in SHs at all. Half the reason it has jumpscares was to be like Slender and those other walking games, and to throw us off for the big surprise.
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>>259302354
I guess I'll just be stuck to replaying silent hill 2 and fapping furiously
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So is anyone else afraid this new SH will be another rip off of SH2?
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>>259303281
don't you know that hope is dangerous! get back in your box, there is no hope for a silent hill fan
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>>259277604
But theres still yu gi oh.
And mgs
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Whose writing the new one?
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>>259275859

>The first SH film
>pretty good

It had great visual effects, but calling it a pretty good movie is a stretch. Hell, giving it a 6/10 is generous.

>Revelation
>mediocre
>not abhorrent beyond the mannequin part

I'm really starting to question your taste in film. Like, I'm not even a movie guy, but seriously.
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>>259303615
so far, the known plot is some guy murdered his family, and his/their ghosts are haunting a house

sounds more like sh4 to me
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>>259304248
satan confirms
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>>259304248

Sweet, I'm all for haunting-type ghosts, but not those annoying invincible nigs
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I hope the plot isn't some variant of "I murdered someone I love but i couldn't come to terms with it and the monsters are my guilt"
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>>259303952
Well, there aren't any official credits out yet, but at least Hideo Kojima and Guillermo del Torro
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>>259304248

That's the plot of the demo, not the game.

Who knows, maybe you play as the fetus that was murdered.
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>>259304893

This. I'd be fine if the guy has some skeletons in his closet, but has already accepted what he's done. Not like the town is out to make you own up to shit
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>>259304893

I'm hoping the series does return to its roots by adding at least some occultist elements.
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>>259305348
OR, OR, OR, what if we play as the psycho killer?
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>>259305724

But that's the obvious one, that's what you'd do in any other horror game
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>>259276336
>killed contra
>killed castlevania by turning it into a literal god of war reskin
>killed zoe
>killed gradius
>killed silent hill and won't stop raping it's corpse
>killed rumble roses
>refuses to stop putting out awful metal gear games, easily their worst franchise which are more films (bad ones) than games, any gameplay is really awful
>killed suikoden

It amazes me how /v/ is MGS dicksucker general. Just another testament to how bad /v/'s general taste is.
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Someone once told me that the voice acting in SH2 was intentionally bad. Why was that?
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I just wish Silent Hill was scary.
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>>259305987

We don't fucking know, you're the one who made up the fact.
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>>259305987

I feel that's overstating it a bit. I think the story is that in utilizing everyman characters like James, they got everyman kind of people to voice them. Not professional actors, just normal guys voicing normal people. They went into stupid levels of detail with SH2 and 3.
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>>259305823
>any other horror game

After I typed it I realized that most sh protagonists are killers, but what if it was more like we saw played through the killings in a symbolic way, like the monsters were people, or we saw them as bad people, or by completing seemingly non-violent puzzles were actually killing people

Idk, just something different than the usual sh2 rehash please

also, why is your image a 45?
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>>259305987
I thought mary and the little girl were the only good actors.
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>>259276871
Visuals were neat, I liked the SH1 throwback when Rose first enters the nightmare world. And that's about it, the rest of the movie is garbage. They reduced the whole Cult story of SH1 into some church weirdos that burn witches.
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>>259305987
not intentionally bad, but intentionally awkward
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>>259306560

Eddie's was pretty good too. His slow descent into madness and insane ramblings in the meat locker room was great.
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>>259305987
Did tom Hulett tell you that?
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>>259306554
that's not a 45
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>>259307296

The subtle emotional touches were generally well done across the board. It's just that the acting itself was suspect. I'd say it was reasonably well directed in light of the lack of raw talent, and that the devs probably got what they desired out of the acting.
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>>259275859
>>a really mediocre film that's after a pretty good film
>revelations 3d
>mediocre
>not fucking horrible as both a film and a vidya movie
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>>259307516
I still don't get it[\spoiler]
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>>259289526
>no gameplay
>cringe dialogue
>walking simulator
>rapes story of first game
>rapes characters of first game
>comedic scenes (wheelchair) (sex tiger conversation)
>robot movement from characters
it's shit and gay
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r34 of the PT ghost chick yet?
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>>259307980
also western, and tom was behind it.
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>>259302354

DEY GOT YA BOI WIT DAT ONE!
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>>259305987
That was Mary Elizabeth and Tom Hulett shitting on everything Team Silent did. James was the only one I though sounded a bit weird at times, but Guy Cihi is not a professional voice actor, in fact he went into the auditions to audition his daughter for Laura's part and he ended up getting the role of James.

Ironically, the new HD voices are bad, and I don't think it was intentional. Troy Baker did a horrible job as James, but I mostly blame the director (Mary) for that. Still, I hate him for blaming Cihi with the whole royalties issue.
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>>259308518
I think Troy and Mary both acted really unprofessional over the whole deal. I used to like them a lot but it really soured my opinion on the both of them after the shit they said.
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>>259305930
This. This is the one thing I've never understood from /v/. The general gobbling of Kojima's meatstick (just because he doesn't give a fuck doesn't make him god), and the Metal Gear Solid fandom.
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>>259302354
>what is pathologic
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>>259309120

what is this game
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>>259308518

They really tried too hard to emulate the old actors while being more "professional". If this had been the first game, it might have worked, since the acting in that was pretty corny. But SH and 3 are special cases since every scene was acted out with the actors themselves, THEN recorded, so their tones and shit were genuine.

>>259308823

Have to wonder how much of it was really them and what of it was Konami's money filled cum dripping from their mouths
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>>259305930
>killed Rumble Roses
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU REMINDED ME
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Let us all remember the man who brings us so much anguish, the amazing Tom Hulett
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>>259310267
Somehow Konami found the one person hackier than Tom Hulett
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>>259310267

>saved Homecoming from being bad anime tier bullshit
>but turned it into Silent Hill 2.5: Muh murdering amnesia returns!
>helped localize Steambot Chronicles
>an underrated gem
>Fucked up the backstory for the entire SH series
>Even claims the original stories of 2 and 3 were shit

Was he insane?
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>>259310715
yes
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>>259310515

who?
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>>259311193
Kojima
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>>259309310
knock knock
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>>259311447

>Kojima
>hack

He's not a great writer, but he's far more competent than Tomm could ever be
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>>259277069
I would imagine it saying:
>COME IN HERE AND FUCK ME
>FUCK MEEEEE
>FUCK MEEEEE
>COME IN HERE AND FUCK ME
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>this thread
>kojima is a hack
>silent hill has better combat than resident evil

why must every thread revolving around community be full of assholes?
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>>259281713

Eh, they really overdid it with the soundtrack. Several parts just felt like they slapped it in, music video style
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>>259312820
welcome to /v/ motherfucker
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>>259281713

Yeah, using pyramid head in the sh1 movie undeniably infuriates me
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>>259278375
> Jacobs ladder
> literally "he's dead and they're in purgatory" the movie
Fits the shitty "horror" genre just fine.
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>>259314959

>Jacobs Ladder
>Shitty

Get a load of this underage
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>>259314340
His redesign is better than the SH2 version though you have to admit. A manlet with a wheelbarrow on his head isn't exactly threatening.
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>>259315924
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>>259316084
>toonlink

opinion discarded
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>>259315924
can u not?
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>>259316325

still would be considered more valued than your shit opinion. No one liked the movie version of PH
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>del toro
>bad writer
American retard detected.
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Ehh, not for me really. I still play and enjoy the original 4 titles every once in a while. Sure, the later games are whatever, but they don't sour the original ones for me.

Actually tried speedrunning the first game recently. Got it down to like a bit over an hour. Wonder what the record is;
>35 minutes
I'm trash.
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Silent Hill has been dead since 4, but I think Kojima can spice things up again..

>a really mediocre film that's after a pretty good film
>implying either of the films are good
They had very little to do with SH aside from a girl named Alessa. Did they even play SH or SH3? She wasn't evil, and certainly wasn't the devil or whatever the movie tried to convey.
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>>259309120
Knock-Knock is the only Ice Pick Lodge game I haven't played. How is it?
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>>259316496
>>259316545
>sh2babbys thinking their toxic opinions matter
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>a really mediocre film that's after a pretty good film

No, they're both pretty terrible.
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>>259317031

>shifting the goalpost this hard

Shitlord, plz
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>>259316642
>that cover
>james is manly, has huge muscles, looks fierce
makes me laugh. James has barely a drop of testosterone in his body
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I'd agree with OP. But I don't consider The Room as even being canon.

The series has been dead since SH3. The only thing that even resembled it's roots was Origins, bugs and all.

I don't have high hopes for this next installment, but I'm keeping an open mind in spite of myself. I guess I just miss Silent Hill.
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>>259317031
>sh2babbys
>implying 80% of the fandom isn't sh2babbys
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SH2fags are the worst fans, they all want every game to be another SH2, Tom Hullet is a hardcore SH2fag too and wanted the same thing with all his games. Think about that for a second.
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Can Del Toro pull another piece of great work like Mimic or The Devil's Backbone?

Then again, who knows what exactly his involvement is? Might just be monster design, since he's known pretty well for his designs.

P.T. showed a bit of Lynch inspiration (albeit obvious). Blue Velvet was an inspiration to Silent Hill, so who knows? I'm a bit optimistic, but I can't feel an extreme emotion one way or the other until we see actually concepts and actual gameplay footage.
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>>259317353

>liking SH2 makes you a fanbaby

Shitposters, plz
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>>259317395
>Tom Hullet is a hardcore SH2fag too
Didn't he want to change the script of silent hill 2 and 3 for the HD collection, and talked about how both games weren't scary and had shitty combat and voice acting?

Bait harder fag
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>>259316920
only played it for an hour, it's simple enough yet it constantly adds content / symbolism until you start to piece the story together. you might even say it's not that far from PT despite being nowhere near as bare bones.
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>>259317395
SH2 epitomized SH for a lot of people. Just because it wasn't your ideal installment doesn't mean SH2 fans are comparable to Tom Hulett.
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>>259317491
No, I meant the majority of a fandom can't be babbies for something. sorry
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>>259276336
This. I like MGS, but I dislike Konami. Kinda hypocritical, but oh well.
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>>259317726
He REALLY should post it online, since he's not with Konami anymore. I bet it's funny as hell, even if it's simple word changes.

Whoever has it should also release the original plot for Homecoming. Fucking asshole Tomm took it away from the world, and it could have been the funniest story ever.
>>259317758
Damn, really? Sounds neat. I gotta check it out soon.
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>>259284431
This guy gets it. Mortal Kombat is the greatest video game film of all time.
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>SH2 had good plot, but was a little forgettable
>SH3 was fucking gold
>SH4 had a great setting, but the plot was a little eeeeeh
Still my favorite horror franchise though
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>>259318106
Someone should tweet tom asking for his edited script for sh2, not only would it get him a ton of shit if more people knew he wanted to change the script, but if he actually released it, I would fucking die of laughter

I don't have a twitter though...
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>>259318854
What about 1?

Play 1 you fucking faggot.
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>>259318936
Fuck it, I'll try.
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>>259318985
Already did.
Failed a bit on creating an atmosphere in my opinion, though the plot was fine, and the gameplay worked.
Puzzles were great too.
Last boss fight was fucking shit though
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>>259319120
Pls deliver if he responds, I'll be your friend forever
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>Buy Silent Hill off of PSN in July
>After a couple days get to Nowhere
>Almost at the final boss
>Shoot at a couple enemies
>Suddenly a high-pitched whining comes from the TV
>Don't know what's going on but the sound stops when I change weapons
>The fuck was that
>Look up "Silent Hill sound glitch" on Google
>First result is the problem I have
>Forum posts in the link are five years old
Jesus Christ they can't do anything right.

I managed to beat it this week and bypass the glitch by toggling the audio around in the game but seriously, how can that shit fly?
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>>259308518
Wait do you mean Mary Elizabeth, as in Death Proof Mary Elizabeth?
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>>259277604
Classicvanias are not Metroidvanias.
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>Says Silent hill movie was pretty good
>capable of calling any writer shitty
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>>259319667
Disregard that I suck cocks.
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>>259319120
Samefag here. He's denying it.

Welp, that's all the effort I can make.
>>259319318
I definitely agree on the final boss. If you have at least 1 ampoule, maybe like 2 health drinks or something and 8 rifle shells, you can literally stand still and mash fire until it dies.

Lizard guy actually required you to move since it had a 1-hit kill.
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>>259319928
Dammit, post a screenshot m8

Denying to post it or denying that he wrote an alternate script?
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>>259319443
Oh, my bad. Here.

I can just ask for a game to be made, right? I can dream, right?
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>>259319928
After trying for like an hour and a half to kill the boss I said "fuck it" and emptied out all my ammo before the last fight, and waited for him to die on his own.
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>>259320209
Quick, someone find that interview where McGlynn says he rewrote the SH2 script and how it was sooo amazing.
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>>259320571
He's just going to say she's mistaken or something.

And Contra 5 will probably never exist. Now I'm depressed.
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>>259320692
There's gotta be somewhere where he actually said it, Goddammit.
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>>259320209
God what a fucking asshole

Well, Mary Elizabeth Mcglynn said he did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G9xj1Ur-90

Mentions the script: 1:40
2:40 "Tom wrote a whole new script so that it would sink in great and really, not change the context at all, just finesse the motion capture and pacing of things, make it a little more natural."
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>>259321357
Couldn't hurt to mention this, twitterdude.
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>>259321357
This thread is fucking golden
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I just noticed this but wasn't the Void from Downpour rip off the Silent Hill 3 Haunted Mansion part where the same thing happens?
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>>259324727
probably
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>>259324727
No because Downpour should be regarded on its own merit and anyone who says otherwise is just a fanboy hater who wasn't willing to give it a chance in the first place, says out lord and savior Tomm AKA the literal dickhead.
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>>259305930
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>>259275859

>>a sequel being headlined by two shitty writers
>>two shitty writers
>>Kojima and del Toro
>>shitty
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>>259324080

We need to go deeper
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>>259276310
If Kojima is good at anything, it's making incomprehensible silly things happen.

Let's hope he can reign in the WORDS
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>>259281512
>horror as a genre in general, died with the Playstation 1.
Shit posting this bad.
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>>259280437
And we still won't get ZoE3.
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why is heather the best waifu?
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>>259300675
There was one jumpscare.
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>>259333146

Because sassy, short-haired girls always are waifs material.
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>>259335076
This man knows that's up.
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>>259333146

Because she actually looks like a real girl.
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>>259336967
A real girl with a huge mouth.
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>>259277458
>>259277535

With a shitty plot like that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyRhHPxOxQ8
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>>259336967
a real ugly girl
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>>259333146
the bestest
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>>259337015

For you

>>259337619

Says you
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>>259337496
These guys have good production values, but why do they come off as such huge fags? Is that intentional?
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I've been playing P.T. for an hour now, and it's getting too much to handle.

Quck question: am I supposed to get killed, or does that mean I messed up? The zombie wife killed me, but I woke up in the starting room with my flashlight and I got to talk to a paper bag.

Was that supposed to happen?
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>>259337902

They think acting like those tards Tim and Eric is a good idea
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>>259338083

Yes, being killed by the wife is just part of the experience.
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>>259328373
>Kojima
>not shitty
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>>259339386

Hardly. And he at least knows how to write unlike Hulett
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>>259339685
Eh.

Don't know a lot about Hulett except for everything he's put his name to is an unmitigated disaster, but Kojima isn't a great writer.

He has ideas and a great attention to detail, but he loves his infodumps, sucks at dialogue, and couldn't plot his way out of a paper bag.

Good characters, good themes, bad stories.
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>>259311806
At the very least, Silent Hills will be emotional.

That's miles better than anything I can say about Hulett's stuff.
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Is it me or is PT very similar to the White Chamber?

If anyone's played that.
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>>259340318

Who said he was great? He's at least good enough, more so than the shithead we had to put up with for nearly 10 years
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>>259277458
The first Silent Hill film is good for nothing. The second one is just a travesty.
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>>259346435
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>>259342113
Well, I guess if you can put together a story that isn't completely retarded and actively contradicting itself, it'd be better than any Silent Hill in a decade.

I'm more worried about the monster designs.
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>>259346974
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>>259347932
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>People still worship Kojima after 4
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>>259348907
Not a whole lot of Kojima dicksucking in this thread.
Go complain about imaginary people elsewhere.
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>>259275859

>Del Toro
>Shitty

Kill yourself.
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>>259348907

Kojima quite adequately proved he couldn't write with MGS1. With MGS2 he demonstrated he had no idea what the utter fuck he was doing. 4 is a fucking masterpiece considering what he had to work with after 2.
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>>259349706
What? 4 is a bizarre clusterfuck that shouldn't have been made. 2 was a vehicle for a meta-narrative, and 1 was pretty straight-forward. Nothing wrong with MGS1's story.
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>>259350520

>Liquid's severed ghost arm inducing British accents and mind control is a major plot point
>Fortune turns out to be really magical and deus ex machinas everyone
>Roller skating fat bomber men
>Olga is a ninja because REMEMBER MGS1
>Vampires running up vertical surface
>President is a dual katana wielding octopus man
>MGS1's entire plot is a basic action movie rip where the writer makes things grind to a halt to present slide shows about MUFF and highlight how he doesn't understand basic genetics
>Spends 10 minutes ramming anti-nuke message with the subtlety of a claw hammer to the jaw

HURR RAIDEN IS A STAND IN FOR THE PLAYER. SO META. SO GENIUS. 10/10.
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>>259351584
>playing videogames
>not having fun
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>>259352241

MGS is actually my favourite series, but I'm not a pretentious retard that thinks a story about katana wielding super presidents is anything other than dumb.
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>>259305930
>rumble roses

Were those actually good games? I thought people only liked them for pic related.

And you forgot:
>killed goemon
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>>259309329
Did Rumble Roses actually have good gameplay or did it only have good T&A?
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>>259352473
There's nothing wrong with cyborg ninjas, vampires, katana wielding super presidents, walking beehives or fat rollerskating bombers. You can still have that kind of crazy shit in and still potentially be good, not everything has to be 100% realistic.

What's wrong is that the series tries to be something it's clearly not (a post-modern literary masterpiece) and ends up being a clusterfuck of shit instead.
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>>259340318
I can agree with this.
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>>259351584
>Roller skating fat bomber men
>Vampires running up vertical surface
>President is a dual katana wielding octopus man

How is that bad? Just because they're not "muh realism" doesn't mean they're the reasons for MGS2's flaws.
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>>259352473
>MGS is actually my favourite series

Just out of curiosity, why is that?
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>>259276871
more silent hill webms plox
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>>259354245

Not that it was trying to be a masterpiece. It had some interesting themes, it's that Kojima overdid. When a character talks about being a soldier, it's not just about the thrill of being a warrior, it's a filibuster about being a tool and no longer having the right to call yourself human or whatever
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>>259356262
Pretty much this.
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>>259280037
It should have gone that way after 4, but it didn't.
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>>259354245

It's nothing to do with realism. It's just shitty writing. When Liquid's entire motivation for being a villain is that he's an idiot who doesn't know what recessive/dominant genes are it's just plain incompetent writing. The fact that it's completely adolescent in its need to cram ninjas and robots in its heavy handed anti-war message is just the cherry on the idiot pie.
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>>259355361

It is a flaw when you're trying to make an anti-war message and you keep romanticizing the thing you're supposed to criticize. No kid played MGS and thought nukes were bad. They just thought REX was rad because the game is completely shallow in its presentation of what could've been an interesting topic.

MGS is of its time. It deserves praise for trying to do things that other games weren't doing, but it fails when measured by the criteria you'd give to any other media.
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>>259309329
>unironically liking rumble roses

You desperately need to get laid.
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