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Are you implying that Contra 4 killed the franchise or are you said there hasn't been a Contra game since 4 depending on your answer you might be retarded
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Run & Gun general?

>Favorite Contra?
>Favorite Metal Slug?

>Anything new... at all?
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>>259235491

4
X

Nope. Genre is dead as fuck.
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>>259235904
What a shame...

Contra: Hard Corps
3
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that challenge mode is how I got gud at Contra
why don't more hard games have stuff like that?
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Shattered Soldier might just be one of the most metal games ever made, and I'm saying this as a Ys fan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvrMIJLRLpM
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>>259237029
>Ys
>Metal

Go fuck yourself. No really. Go fuck yourself. Splatterhouse is metal. Dragon's Dogma as a fighter or Warrior is metal. Ys is shitty 80s glam rock
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>>259237285
Damn' son, you shouldn't mouth off to things you know nothing about.
A+ for the Splatterhouse shout out though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8RmEqQ3wmo
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>>259235491
Hard Corps
3

Nope, deadest genre sadly.
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>>259237987
>has a badass boss in one game
>thinks this makes the whole game and or series metal

You're fucking retarded. EXTREMELY retarded.
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>>259238189
>One game
Like I said, you know nothing son.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v50uV3x4uA4

But speaking of M
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>>259238189
Nice going edgelord.

>>259235491
>>259237029
Any of the PS2 and beyond ones play nice with an emulator? It would be absolute shit to have slowdown in a run n gun.
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>>259238605
*-etal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoAUhD4CcqM
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>>259238605
You're still not making any valid points. Having final bosses that are badass doesn't count for shit. For every Galbalam and Darm there's a Nygtilger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaeHnLwr6VE


Your series isn't metal. Get a fucking grip you fucking faggot.
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Oh man, that reminds me, my friend was really into Contra and he was hyped for it. I bring it up every time I see him.
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>>259235491
sup /vr/

also hard corps is the best contra
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>>259239034
>Normal
>My series

Nyggler, why you so mad?
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>>259239461
Because you're calling a fucking generic ass action rpg with bland JRPG designs and themes "metal".

In fact, you think it's SO metal that the fact that you're a fan of it means you know from metal games. You're a faggot. Fuck off and get some common sense.
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>>259233781
I thought that game flopped because everyone pirated it.
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>autist complaining about metal

You should have grown out of that by now anyway.
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>>259239658
>Knows nothing of Ys or its history beyond a hurtburt google search
I bet you haven't even played Lords of Thunder.
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>>259239836
I bought it.

It was fucking amazing. But I'm such a casual I was only ever able to complete it on easy mode. It's a great game though.
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>>259240330
History? History has NOTHING to do with it. The ONLY metal thing about them is some of the music. And I've played three of them so fuck right off with your nonsense.
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>>259240330
>bringing up lords of thunder
>to try and defend Ys as "metal"

Holy shit. I'm with the other guy, you're fucking brain damaged.
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>>259233781
What a gay idea was using 2 screens.
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>>259240518
>Buhhh, it's generic and you're not allowed to like it
>I've played three of them

That's just sad...
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Has Wayforward ever made a bad game?
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>>259240660
Or you might just be younger than me.
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Neo Contra doesn't get enough love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPOt2kFysSU

>>259240518
Shut up tryhard
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>>259240927
No.

Mostly mediocre ones, though.
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>>259240785
>Buhhh, it's generic and you're not allowed to like it
You can like it as much as you want. It's not even remotely metal. You pretending like being a Ys fan makes you a "metal games" aficionado is infuriating. Do fans of "Avatar: The Last Airbender" pretend like they know from martial arts? Probably not.


>>259240996
Age has nothing to do with objective qualities that define a genre. Having a handful of metal SCENARIOS does not a metal game make. You need to have metal atmosphere and characters wall to wall.
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>>259241195
You're so young it hurts
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>>259241371
Are you really just gonna give up and resort to 0/10 trolling attempts like that?
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>>259241195
I'm not saying "I'm older, therefore better than you", I'm saying that I was there at the start at the CD-Rom revolution when Ys Book 1 & 2 and Lords of Thunder was the most metal sounding games out there. Also
>Implying Glam Metal isn't metal.
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>>259241958
You listen to Dragon Force, don't you?
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Both Contra: Rebirth and Hard Corps: Uprising were somewhat recent and pretty good games. I still have hope we'll get a new Contra game within the next 3 years.
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>>259241958
>I'm saying that I was there at the start at the CD-Rom revolution when Ys Book 1 & 2 and Lords of Thunder was the most metal sounding games out there.
Okay so is Arnold Schwarzenegger still Mr. Universe? Or is he just a flabby old white politician? Times change faggot. Don't be a fucking retard about it.

>Implying Glam Metal isn't metal.
It's hardly metal. The differences between Glam Metal and Hard Rock are nearly non existent. It's the lightest metal possible. It's fucking aircraft grade aluminum.
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>two faggots on /v/ arguing whether a game series is "metal" or not

Now I've seen it all
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>>259242136
I haven't played any of the new contras, but I don't really like the style in pic related. I love the gritty art style of alien wars and hard corps
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>>259235174
piracy killed the franchise
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>>259242136
Hard Corps: Uprising is the best Contra game. That is fact.
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I'm still waiting for the Contra teased at E3 2011.
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>>259235491
How does the 2nd game in the 1st row called?
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>Sees trailer for Contra 3D
How come no gaming news site has reported about this thing? Looks awesome. Finally, a 3D Contra done right.
>It's a pachislot game
Oh...
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>>259243235
Alien Soldier, underrated Treasure gem.
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>>259241195
Kill yourself.

You're a stain on video games and metal.
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>>259240678
It took some time to get used to, especially the gap, but was pretty good when you got accustomed to it. It allowed for gianter bosses.

>>259240927
The Adventure Time one
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>>259243568
>Alien Soldier
thanks
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>>259243568
underrated because we never got it in america, for some dumb reason
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>>259235491
>Batman & Robin on the Genesis
>Not Pocky & Rocky 1 & 2 on the SNES
Pleb
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>>259244187
That's more of a straight shoot em up than a run n gun
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This shit right here. Das it, mane.
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>>259244014
Didn't know that, shit sucks then. I preferred it to Gunstar Heroes.
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>>259244364
You run and shoot. What other criteria is there to be considered a "run and gun"?
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Dumping some manual scans from the Famicom Contra
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>>259244667
Not him, but I usually associate jumping or limited platforming with RnG's. I don't think it's required, but it's really common and is the one thing that separates them from shmups.
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>>259242634

Contra: Rebirth is pretty similar to Contra 3. Maybe a little too similar but it's still fun. Worth the $10 if you have a Wii or Wii U.
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>>259244453

I read that as "Murican", and got sad when I realized it wasn't that.
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>>259244909
run n gun = contra
shmups are not run n gun. They're stuff like thunder force, MUSHA aleste, ikaruga, bullet hell games, etc.
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>>259244667
Well they are pretty similar, but the left to right view rather than overhead can lead to a lot of differences between them.
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Contra had a pretty cool story until SS ruined it. I never did understand who Red Falcon was though. Was it the heart in C1 or the face with tentacles you always fight (which seems to have another name but I can't remember it).
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>>259239034

>Giant centipede

Not metal

Not only are you retarded and know nothing about Ys, you know nothing about metal as well

Also
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>>259244667
Jumps
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>>259245645
>Contra had a pretty cool story until SS ruined it.
The localization of the early games did a pretty good job doing that first.
>I never did understand who Red Falcon was though.
The Red Falcon Organization was just the name of the terrorist group in the first game that was under the alien's control.
>Was it the heart in C1 or the face with tentacles you always fight (which seems to have another name but I can't remember it).
The heart is called Gomeramos King
The giant alien face from the end of Super Contra is named Gava (pic related).
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>>259242921

It's only a fact in your autistic bubble world, Hard Corps: Uprising doesn't even qualify as a Contra game because of how shit it is
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>>259245645
SS was the one continuing the story. Getting locked up in a hyperprison until the year 4444 is pretty fucking metal
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Uprising is my fav contra
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>contra
>story

come on, people. the story is just there as an excuse to shoot giant robots/aliens/etc
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>>259246862
There's no reason it can't be good though.

>>259246405
How was Contra's story messed up? I don't know much about the Japanese one.
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>>259247206
>How was Contra's story messed up? I don't know much about the Japanese one.
Basically the series used to have two different continues. In Japan, Contra was always set in the future, but in America the first few games (Contra, Super C and Operation C) were set in the present. So when Contra III came out and was set in an obviously futuristic city, they came with the excuse that Bill and Lance were actually their descendants (Jimbo and Sully).
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>>259239178

>mfw you can pre-order on amazon
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>>259248775
>mfw it turns out to be another MercuryStream shit like that 3DS Castlevania.
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>Calling yourself a Contra fan
>Not knowing who half of these characters are.
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>>259250705
is it all contra characters?
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>>259250705
Animal Contra is the only character you need to concern yourself with.
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>>259252421
Every game with a Contra name and Hard Corps: Uprising.
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>>259235491
Metal Slug

I love it everytime i play
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>>259246034
>look it has badass bosses
We've been over this
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Contra had some badass music. The level 1 music of the original was tight.
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>>259246405
Might as well dump the rest.
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>>259257136
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>>259257453
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>>259235491
go buy Gunhound EX and Gigantic Army
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>>259257643
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Thanks for all these scans. They're pretty cool (and metal).
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Anyone still do peashooter runs in Contra?

I did one in Super C a while back. No continues, but I think I died once or twice. Always to those mouths in the floor.
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does broforce count as a run and gun?
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>>259259103
Yeah, but it's a pretty shitty one.
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Dumping the Nintendo Power's guide to Contra III.
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>>259263007
Last one
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>>259263178
Thanks a lot, good stuff. Makes me miss Nintendo power.
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>>259233781
CASUAAAAAAAAAAAALS
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>>259235491
>general
>>>/vg/
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>>259235491
God those bring back memories, time to fire up the emulators.
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>>259262104
But that's not kimkoh
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>>259264695
Might as well dump the Operation C section from the Nintendo Player's Guide to Game Boy
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>>259267703
Yeah, they messed up the names between localization.
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>>259238737
Neo Contra on PS2 is one of few games that's completely unplayable on PCSX2. It always crashes at some point on the first level. It sucks because the game is really good.

Contra 4 should play perfectly. Contra ReBirth should also play perfectly but the game is shitty so don't play it because it's awful.
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>>259268959
>Contra ReBirth should also play perfectly but the game is shitty so don't play it because it's awful.

I've watched playthroughs of it a couple times trying to get hyped enough to buy it but it just looks dumb. The part where they're jumping between trucks and pink robot camels looks so silly.
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Contra IV was as good a sequel as we could have hoped to get from the Contra III / Hard Corps days.

Pixel Art
9 Stages
Stage/Enemy/Boss Variety
Tons of unlockable characters, including the Contra III characters and Probotector.
Unlockable Contra and Super C
Extensive and difficult challenge mode.
Tons of unlockable concept art from the whole series.

It was the real deal and it is a crime that it didn't sell better. I would say its only real flaw is that Fang from Hard Corps wasn't playable.

The death of Contra is particularly sad to me. That E3 teaser got me way more excited than it should have and it seems pretty much dead at this point.
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>>259270148
Game is shit. Contra with only two fucking powerups?
Ugly as fuck visuals that look like a bad flash game.
Bad remixes for the music.

Out of the ReBirth games it seems like it was given no budget and noone involved put in much effort to make it.

Castlevania the Adventure Rebirth and Gradius Rebirth are much much better.
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Rebirth was fucking great, Konami should seriously just contract out M2 for a full-length Contra 5.
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>>259270337
>Unlockable Contra and Super C
More importantly, unlockable NES Contra and Super C.

The arcade version of Contra 1 is fine, arcade Super C is complete shit though. The NES versions of both are much better.
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>>259270680
>The arcade version of Contra 1 is fine, arcade Super C is complete shit though.
Always thought the arcade version of Contra was complete shit myself, while Super Contra is quite a nice improvement over it. Been considering single-credit clearing it recently actually.
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>>259268959
>Contra ReBirth should also play perfectly but the game is shitty so don't play it because it's awful.
I'm pretty sure anyone who says Contra ReBirth is a shitty game is just mad they can't milk out extra lives like in the earlier games. Git gud.

>>259270148
>I've watched playthroughs of it a couple times trying to get hyped enough to buy it but it just looks dumb. The part where they're jumping between trucks and pink robot camels looks so silly.
It's really more of a parody of a previous games than a legit entry. I'm surprised they didn't remade the Game Boy version (Operation C) like they did with Gradius and Castlevania.
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>>259271023
The only thing good about Rebirth is the gimmicky level and boss design.

Everything else about it is awful. The lack of weapons was a retarded idea, especially when they're using the Contra 3 system where you can hold two weapons. Two out of fucking three.

One of which seems to have been put in specifically for no other purpose other than to be 'that' powerup that pisses you off when you get it.
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>>259270337
>Unlockable Contra and Super C
It's kinda shit they don't have proper co-op though.
>Tons of unlockable characters, including the Contra III characters and Probotector.
Too bad the default characters are just palette swaps and you can't mix different character types in 2P mode. It's such a wasted opportunity if you ask me.
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>>259270497
I am a huge Contra fan and was pretty disappointed in ReBirth. Like you say there was almost no weapon variety, plus the game was what, 4 stages? Maybe 5, I can't remember. On top of that you have the terrible cutscenes which you can thankfully skip.

The playable lizard character was cool though.
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>tfw can only play the Japanese version of Hard Corps
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>>259271835
Ah you're right, I forgot about no co-op on the NES games and forced 2nd player character choice. Those would definitely go in the flaw category.
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>>259235491
I dont really like Ranger X
it looks great but it kind of plays like shit
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>even having anyone to co-op with
How do you fucks do it. Contra 4 and Metal Slug 7 both should have had netplay.
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>all those people that pirated Contra 4 and didn't get the lovingly written manual
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Fuck Contra, where's my Metal Slug 8 already you lazy faggots? Goddamnit you caught lightning in a bottle and proved conclusively that you've got what it takes to make a great game again with 7. Give me more!
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I can't even play Contra 1 or 2 on the DS. The screen is so tiny I can't even see the bullets. I appreciate they included them as unlockables, but it wasn't really effective.
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>>259274042
I've had no trouble one-life clearing them both into multiple loops before getting bored, not sure what your problem is.
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>>259273398
SNK and Konami are in a weird semi-death where they can release a game once every 2 years or so and only that one game.

Seriously, what happened? I guess they're both pumping out Pachinko and Pachislot machines to stay alive or something?
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>>259274304
SNK should just rebrand themselves as The King of Fighters Company already so I can stop wasting my time on them.
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>>259274304

SNK has been releasing a lot of mobile shit. Maybe thats working out.
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>>259274304
>Seriously, what happened? I guess they're both pumping out Pachinko and Pachislot machines to stay alive or something?
Yep, see.>>259243567
Even the last few Goemon games were pachislot machines too. Their only game development studios they have left are Kojima Productions (inb4 some autistic smartass makes a "Metal Gear is a movie" joke).
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>>259276194
So what happened to Konami to get them to this point?
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>>259277489
I'd say whatever it was that made the "Goemon team" who worked at KCEK finally leave the company is probably the straw that broke the camel's back.
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>>259277707
I always found it weird how Konami went from being one of the most prolific Japanese game developer during the PS2 era to basically farming out all their properties to westerners. I guess they didn't adapt well to the HD era. At least Capcom still makes half of their games in-house.
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>>259242726
i paid 70 canadian dollars for contra 1 20 years ago
please shut the fuck up
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>>259233781
I bought this game a few months ago but it went into my backlog along with Radiant Historia and Castlevania OoE. I need to get working on them.
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>>259278517
Still worth every penny though.
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>>259278828

Go finish it now, casual.
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>>259278828
The game is like an hour long, just beat it.

Order of Ecclesia is overrated
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>>259258947
Hells yeah, I used to do those all the time in Contra. Usually I could get through the whole thing without dying once. It was so programmed into my head though, since I would play at least a couple of times each day.
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>>259279994
Shit, I was looking forward to it. Contra is next then.
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The final boss in Contra 3, the brain thing with the spinning choices around him, is there a definite strategy to picking the good choices or it is pure luck based?
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>>259280716
Just abuse the pause function and try to calculate what attack mode it will trigger.
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>>259280330
OoE is still a good game, but the people who say it's the best Metroidvania even the best one on DS are either waifufags or idiots who think that being more difficult alone makes it better.

It's got the best bosses but the rest of the game feels like filler.
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>>259280716
It's not luck based at all, with proper timing you can pick the attack you want every time. I prefer to aim diagonally in the direction of the spinning and wait for it to slow down. One time I managed to get nothing by the power-up dropping attack for the entire fight.
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I don't get it. Why does everyone love Contra 4 so much and not Shattered Soldier?

I mean granted I've not played Shattered Soldier much but there were so many awesome moments in what little I did ("Did that submarine just fly?") while Contra 4's most not-boring segment was riding a rocket, which we totally haven't seen before in Hard Corps or anything, right?

Can people not get over the edgy plot twist or something?

Also, might as well post some obscure run/gun type games (Dunno if the Outfoxies counts as a run-n-gun since it's versus but...)
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>Tfw no new Gunstar motherfucking Heroes in over 10 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl36SRRZPtc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxdkRNluilw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGRxveGBJZ0
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>>259282276
Who cares, it's mediocre as fuck to begin with.
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>>259282195
I liked both. People hyped up SS to be the hardest fucking game in existence but I think I S ranked it the same weekend and I'm no game god. It was pretty fun all around, but it's definitely a boss-rush style Contra, which I know some people don't like.
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>>259282553
In terms of difficulty, I would argue AC Super Contra (on its highest difficulty) is the hardest game in the series, followed by the US version of Contra Hard Corps and Contra III on hard. Shattered Soldier and Contra 4 are pure memorization games.
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>>259244014
We did, it was just released through the Sega Channel, though. So we never got a physical release
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>>259243894
The second adventure time game.

The first one was decent
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>>259284506
The Sega Channel thing was just dumb though.
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>>259282553

But boss rushes are the best games.
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>>259288172
Shame Metal Slug 3 has so few of them, and most of them suck though.
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>>259288172
Depends on how well it's done I think. Pic related is one of my favorites.
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>>259240927

Some of their shat out in three months shovelware is exactly what the schedule and budget allowed for, so don't take their name as a guarantee, but yeah they're pretty good. Also the Regular Show game was supposed to be powerful bad with dodgy hitboxes and the like.
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>>259240927
Yes
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>>259240330
you are embarrassing to share a board with
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>>259272452
>needing help
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>>259294601
I always found playing co-op was more of a burden in Contra anyway.
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>>259295279
I agree, same with Metal Slug. Getting a player who's as skilled as yourself though and you're in for some fun times.
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>>259233781
>tfw nobody knows what happened to Nazca
>tfw nobody even knows for certain if Nazca developed Metal Slug although it's very likely
>tfw no Neo Turf Masters 2
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>>259240927
I thought Contra 4 was decent but unimpressive. MSF was mediocre too.

They have made several bad games though. Sigma Star Saga and Bloodrayne Betrayal were flat out bad.
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I'd legit hurl a puppy off a bridge for a sequel to <picture related> made by the same team.
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>>259296663
This thing never goes on sale on PSN :(
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>>259296986
Holy shit whatever they're asking it's worth it. It's really, really good. Easily one of the best download games of the last generation.
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>>259297540
I wouldn't go that far but I do think it is excellent and better than Contra 4.
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>>259240927
I found Double Dragon Neon to be a disappointment. I wish they had made a proper Double Dragon reboot instead of the stupid self-parody approach they took.
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>>259295746
>tfw nobody even knows for certain if Nazca developed Metal Slug although it's very likely
Yes they did you idiot.
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>>259297540
I think it's $15. I held out and got Double Dragon Neon last month for $1, so I'm hoping Uprising will get the same treatment in a flash sale soon.
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>>259296663

I wish you'd hurl yourself off a bridge
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>>259296663
Still have yet to get a single fucking achievement in that game. They're so god damn impossible. Beat the entire game without killing more than 20 some fodder enemies? Get out of here.
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>>259297829
As far as I was aware Nazca were bought by SNK before Metal Slug went into development. Nazca made the game but it's credited as just SNK so it's not 100% clear.

Also, don't google image search Nazca Corporation.
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>>259298316
I'll triple jump and double air-dash all over your bitch ass and this is the song that's gonna be playing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHZKM10qR8k
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>>259297756
I find it highly unlikely Wayforward played DD Iphone or DD Advance and then thought they could go shit up the series with that clunky-ass grindtastic combat.

It was hilarious and had great music but still, that's no excuse.
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>>259298537
Just read the credits dummy. Everyone important comes straight out of Nazca/IREM. I don't even think there are any SNK workers of the 16 people mentioned (except perhaps ones that freelanced at SNK every now and then while they were still at IREM).
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>>259299487
I will next time I finish the game. I'm super anal with arcade games and only allow myself 1 credit, last time I finished a Metal Slug game was MS3 about 3 years ago.

>people who credit feed
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>>259262598
Alien Wars' 3rd level is my favorite level from any game of all time. So much shit going on. The highway level is pretty fucking metal as well.
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>>259299112
>grindtastic
If you're shit at gleaming, sure.
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>>259300576
You don't have to be good at all. Just gleam and spam fireball for a retarded quantity of damage. That's just it. Because the stats vary so much, there simply is no meaningful balance in the game.
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>>259233781
>mfw all the bad reviews are because its too hard
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>>259300813
The game hands out extra lives like candy, especially on the final stage. I'm not sure why that IGN idiot had trouble beating the game.
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>>259302489
Because there's one single trick to git gud at it and it's easy to miss. It's not like Ninja Gaiden on the non-stupid-cheese shit difficulties where gudness is obvious and easy to understand but tough to execute.
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>>259301291
that literally physical border between the screens that covered shots was a son of a bitch though. Goddamn.
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>>259235491
Haven't played much contra aside from the first but it's fun.
MS1 will be the best MS game forever though, no contest. Later games have too much stupid shit. Metal Slug keeps it real.
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>>259303417
Metal Slug would be the best one if its controls weren't so stiff. Pity.
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>>259303106
I wish they had put an indicator whenever a bullet was between screens. What's the point of the blind spot anyway?
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>>259304712
Yo man DS! Dual Screens!
but yeah, it was fucked up and made for alot of angry moments.
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>>259305206
But is there a way to have a playing field on two screens without the gap on a Nintendo DS? I know Legend of Kage 2 had the same flaw.
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>>259270497
>Contra ReBirth music
>bad
u wot m8
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