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Do they not care about SMT anymore?

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Do they not care about SMT anymore?
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>>259113369
A fucking mainline game got pushed to B-team side-project status. How much do you think they care?
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Companies go where the money is, and it's a Japanese company.
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I used to like persona but now I hate it for killing SMT

Also how are people not sick of the P4 cast yet
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>>259113632
regardless of you considering Maniax team "B-team side project", it didn't make SMT4 any worse for wear.

Supposedly said team is hard at work on their next project, but we might not hear anything until next year
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>>259114006
Autists can't deal with change
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>>259113369
Fuck Atlus
Not a single SMT game on the PS3 and they put a mainline game on the 3DS. All they care about is fucking Persona
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>>259114006
>Also how are people not sick of the P4 cast yet

How long have they continued it?
>Persona 4
>Persona 4 Golden
>Persona 4 Arena
>Persona 4 Arena the Ultimax
>Persona 4 the Animation
>Persona 4 Golden the Animation

For fucks sake. I liked P4 at the start too but so fed up with it now. I don't even bother gong to the threads anymore. I swear it's reaching KS levels
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They've released more mainline SMT games in the past 6 years than mainline Persona games.
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>>259114006
>Also how are people not sick of the P4 cast yet
Good question. They're easily the most obnoxious and idiotic gang of dorks in the series and they've managed to stretch them out longer than any of the other casts.
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>>259114825

Too bad P4 threads went to complete shit years ago. I remember when P4 threads where basically SMT threads
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Even when I prefer SMT to the Persona line, I can understand why they're ignoring mainline SMT.
You need to go where the money is.
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>>259114006
>Also how are people not sick of the P4 cast yet
People like lovable idiots apparently, given P4's Cast is 50 variants of P3's Junpei.
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>>259113369

Persona happened

Unless they really do some renovations on the SMT series I can't see it being as popular

Also
>No waifu simulator
They need to put waifus in SMT, then ppl will buy it
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fuck persona
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>>259115201
>implying
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>>259114992
That doesn't really matter since they don't make SMT chibi crossover games and dancing games and fighting and anime
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>>259115548

She just wants your life stones bro
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>>259115557
Do you really want shit like that?
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>>259115628
It's an even better and more accurate waifu simulator, I rest my case.
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>>259113369
Didn't they release IV 2 years ago on the 3DS?
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>>259115658
No, I'm just saying "more mainline games" doesn't really work as an argument since Persona have like 7 spin offs and re-releases
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Just recently played SMT4.

How was it received by earlier SMT fans?

Are the other SMT more or less dungeon-crawly? I liked it for the most part but it did get repetitive after awhile.

I wish they made a game with more story than SMT4 but less story than Persona.
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Because SMT sucked and always will suck. Why do you think they're tacking it on with Fire Emblem? They probably think that Fire Emblem's popularity will save it.

It's better just to focus more on Persona and newer games.
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>>259114825
You forgot Perona Q and Persona 4 Dancing all Night
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No More Tears

Only Marie Now
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>>259115948

Waifus can save SMT
It saves all games
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>>259115948
>Because SMT sucked and always will suck

Persona babby detected
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>>259114006
SMT killed itself, stop deluding yourself.
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Not focusing on =/= killing. SMT4 sold well, SMT x FE is in development and the Maniax Team is working on something. They milk Persona since that's a consistent seller, but mainline SMT is still alive.

The only thing I'm more worried about is that we don't see any new SMT spin offs any more. DeSu2 3DS seems to be dead, Raidou is even more dead, and one offs like DDS are probably never coming back.

>>259114430
SMT4 was pandering to old S/MT fans, so they went with the console that had nostalgia fags.

>>259115090
But SMT4 made pretty good money in Japan and in the US.
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I really wish they would make more unique games like Catherine

one of my favorite last gen titles
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>>259114430
>>259116218
Is there a way to play 3DS games on a TV? Fuck portables
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SMT IV came out last fucking year. games take time to make faggot
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>>259116732
No
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>>259116218
We might get one after the Persona blow-out, if those Devilizer/Devilizer trademarks Atlus filed in November are anything to go by. Rumor on 2ch is, that's what Kaneko's been working on ever since he came up with the concept for SMT4 and then left the project.
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If you could bro it up with one demon, who would it be?
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>>259116738
Autism waits for no man.
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I don't know why people keep saying it needs waifus.

DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PEOPLE YOU CARE ABOUT IN SMT?
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>>259117094
It's only the Persona babies saying it needs waifus.

Namely, ones from Persona 4.
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>>259117043
Here's hoping. As long as they aren't phone games they're gonna be phone games then I'll be there.
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>>259117094
>>259117323
Also every fucking SMT game has waifus already
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>>259117589
I love Isabeau. She's so cute.
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>>259114036
>Supposedly said team is hard at work on their next project, but we might not hear anything until next year

Aw, fuck yeah!

You put me in a good mood anon, I can't wait to see what they come up with.
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>people complaining about no waifus in a video game
>these same people say 3DPD, relationships are shit, women are whores, love is retarded etc.
>Atlus makes spinoff of SMT called Persona so they can put high school interaction and dating in it
>why doesn't SMT have waifus? put waifus in SMT!!
>shut-in persona fans say say SMT is bad for not having teenage social interaction in it

mfw
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>>259117714
>Robin will never give you a P-E-E-K
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>>259117808
Persona 1 and 2 didn't have dating
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Yuriko can fucking get it.
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>>259117053
Let us go, son of man.
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I just got a 3DS today and Atlus 3DS catalog is on sale?

SMT IV $20
Code of Princess $15
Devil Survivor $15
Conception 2 $30
Soul Hackers $15
Etrian Odyssey Untold $15
Etrian Odyssey IV $15

I have $50
The only Atlus game I've ever played was Trauma Center
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>>259113369
SMT4 is only one year old, what the fuck is wrong with you
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>>259118163
It's not even out in Europe ye and they already have SMTxFE announced
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>>259118081
And they were all the better for it since they let the characterization happen through the story, rather than through optional sucking-up to characters when you're not in a dungeon.
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>>259118142
SMT IV and EO IV
Have fun
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>>259118142
smtiv and devil survivor overclocked
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>>259118313
They made it into a gameplay aspect.
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>>259118142

Whatever you do DON'T BUY CODE OF PRINCESS

SMTIV is pretty cool, sort of like a PS2 JPRG but in a handheld.

Etrian Odyssey Untold and IV are both good, but they are classic, first person dungeon crawlers, so you should know what you're getting into before you buy it. It might not be your style.
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>>259118142
Pick up SMT IV and see if you like it, then go from there. If you like first person dungeon crawlers EO may be worth your time, pick up IV first. I'm not a huge fan but if you like SRPGs then Devil Survivor might be up your alley.
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>>259115948
FE wasn't the series that was at death's door until recently.
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>>259118313
brown's character development and reason for why he is who he is is literally "i shit my pants in school and got made fun of"

man I miss the old characters
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>>259118307
>already
Anon...
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>Digimon World 2
>2000
>has 3d models and shit
>P2 IS/EP
>2011
>no 3D models
>Strange Journey
>2009
>no 3D models
>Soul Hackers
>2012
>no 3D models
>SMT IV
>2013
>no 3D models
Nocturne is the best game in the series point.
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>>259118625
>tfw restarted 6hrs in just to not have Brown in the party
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>>259118414
I second this anon
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>>259115948
>Fire Emblem's popularity
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>>259118649
IN terms of gameplay, you're right. But 3D models isn't what makes it the best.
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>>259118414
>>259118418
>>259118503
>>259118572
I got a 3DS specifically to get me out of my gaming comfort zone (FPS, sports, and 4x games).

I think I will go with SMT IV, EO IV, and Devil Survivor

3 different kinds of RPG

Thanks anons.
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>>259116218
But you can make far more money with pandering products like the Persona franchise, in the same way Bioware became wealthier than god thanks to their romance-focused WRPGs.

If I were Atlus' CEO I would focus every single effort into Persona and similar products, disbanding the SMT teams.
As I told you before, we're here to make money.
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>tfw years ago some girl made me play persona at her house saying it was the best rpg she ever played next to kingdom hearts.
>I wasn't a fan of KH, but ok, let's give it a go.
>full of dialog, high school setting, have to literally go to school, fuck this

So I'm playing Nocturne now and it's been pretty good so far, any heads up about this game? No spoilers please.
Also, what game do I play after it?
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>>259118612
But it was?? Awakening was almost the last FE game we would ever get. What happened to that was a MIRACLE!
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>>259119219
Persona is just a bell cow to allow other games. They can both exist and be successful especially with Sega and Nintendo marketing power and supply chain.
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>>259119219
Following that logic, why is Bioware making DA:I and that Shadow realms game if Mass Effect is so popular and more known for them?
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>>259119038

Good luck, anon. And remember, if SMTIV seems too hard, just keep pushing onwards, it gets better after the Medusa boss battle.
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>>259119320
SMT games are games in which buffs and status effects actually matter. They are very important as opposed to games like DQ and FF.
Having trouble with a certain enemy? Then try inflicting status effects.

Build a balanced team. I assume you already know about the press turn system (hit weakness/crit, get more turns) and how it also goes for enemies. Building a team that's resistant to a certain something is good for specific bosses, but unless you use guides there are times when you won't be able to find out what the next boss's speciality is. So balance is key.

Str build is better in the long run than magic, but magic is still very much viable.
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>>259119219
Variety, dipshit.
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>>259119350
FE Awakening also came out with a lot of advertising

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxiEcWYmxr8

That was on Adult Swim and Comedy Central every night for like a month.
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>>259113369
Persona 3 and 4 attracted to many autists that they realized it's far better to focus on the casual obsessive market rather than to make interesting games. Like Nocturne or SJ.

I didn't even mind 3/4 I thought they were pretty fun light RPGs but weren't as good as 1/2. '
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>>259119038
>>259119552
And here's a helpful hint:

USE

BUFFS

Buffs/Debuffs are absolute game changers in these games.
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>>259119506
Mass Effect 4 is being developed right now and Dragon Age is a pandering WRPG.

What is this Shadow realms thing? time to check the internet.
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>>259119552
Thank you, now just gotta wait for downloads.

>>259119813
I'll remember.
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>>259119710
Thanks, will keep all that in mind.
That first boss was a piece of cake, all with having two demons with thunder magic, but I know SMT is known for being hard, so I'll try to balance things out.
Also I already have Jack Frost in my party, he looks cute.
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>>259118762
>Hating on brown
absolutely deplorable
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>>259113369
>Do they not care about SMT anymore?
>Released SMT4 last year
>Persona 5 in the works
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>>259120034
Also, fusion is very important.
Fusing demons > leveling demons.
Don't get attached to demons, you'll only end up hurting yourself. Letting go is hard.
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>>259120023
No problem. A lot of people get to the first real roadblock (you'll know it when you get there) and underestimate just how useful buffs can be, get frustrated, and give up, and as a result, don't get to see 90% of the game.
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>>259120202
Oh boy, I already kinda got attached to that first pixie fairy, she recently "evolved" too.
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I live in a PAL region
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>>259120378
Also, I just know realized I spent a good portion of my 13/14 years of age playing FFX, and didn't even know SMT existed.
What have I done with my life.

I still like FFXII though.
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>>259118649
>>SMT IV
>>2013
>>no 3D models
toppest fucking kek
I really like the graphic style for this game.
Shame there's no Kaneko though.
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>>259120378
You can fuse pixie, but remember what demon she's inside of.
Even if you fuse the demon that came out of pixie+another demon, remember the demon that pixie is inside of.

Even if you fuse the demon that came out of the demon that came out of the demon of pixie + ???. Always remember which demon Pixie is inside of. If I remember right, that demon is always at the top of your list no matter what. This is important for something.
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>>259120440
so do I. That didn't stop me from getting SMT4
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>>259120162
>P5 is a SMT
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>>259120440
Then you have something to look forward to.
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>>259115794
No, 1 year ago
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>>259114006
That was entirely Atlus' fault for killing SMT
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>>259120772
Right!
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>>259120378
If you keep her or any demon that came from her at a certain point, she'll turn into uber pixie, maxing out 3/4 of her stats
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>>259120691
He was referring to the enemies you nitwit.
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>>259121082
>That was entirely Atlus' fault for killing SMT
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SMT 1 just came out in English for the first time earlier this year

...just saying
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>>259121480
And Same for MT1.
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SMT was never that big a series though.

It only blew up with persona. Persona is personally to thank for the abundance of SMT titles being localized now.
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>>259121564
SMT is the 3rd most popular RPG series in Japan
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>devil survivor overclocked
>soul hackers 3DS remake
>SMTIV for fuck's sake
>devil survivor 2: break record - coming soon
>SMTxFE - tba

They dabbled a bit with Sony and now they're back to making games on Nintendo systems.
BOTH SMTIV releases - Strange Journey which was supposed to be SMTIV before the name change, and the real SMTIV - were on Nintendo handhelds.
Stick with Nintendo if you want your SMT.
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>>259121546
Wait, really?
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>>259121692
It's really not.
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>>259121564
>SMT was never that big a series though.
k
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>>259121397
>tumblr
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>>259121692
bullshit, anon. I know where you read that misinformation and while it's a nice primer on megaten that particular snippet is wrong.
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>>259121767
The Megami Tensei 1 and 2 SNES remake got a fan translation. The version 0.9something was released days ago.
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>>259121692
FF, DQ, and Monhon take the top 3.
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>>259121692
That's bullshit and you know it
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>>259122037
Monhun is RPG?
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>>259117705
her fucking her though ugh. i was expecting a pony tail in the back but no just a fucking bowl cut with side burns
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SMTIV fucking sucked. It wouldn't surprise me if it was the last mainline entry for a long time
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>>259122240
They need to make another game like Strange Journey
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>>259121546
>MT1.
This question just came to mind, has anyone here read the original novels?

What did you think of them?
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Has Fatlus USA announced anything about SMT2 on iOS yet? I fucking hate playing games on my phone but I'll keep buying the ports and suck it up if I get to play If... in the next century
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Devil Survivor 3 when?
DS2 3DS is taking forever
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I want to fuck Mirai
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>>259122521
Yes, they do.
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>>259118142
holy fuck that 3ds i want it
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>>259122680
They said on reddit that there's more chance of seeing If... translated than 2
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>>259122521
Well the creators of SJ made a new game for PS3/Vita called Lost Dimension. Too bad it sold like shit. It looks like Valkyrie Chronicle to me in terms of play style
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Can anyone find SMTIV sales numbers? How do they compare to Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga?
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>>259122791
That makes no fucking sense at all. I don't understand why they would translate SMT I but not II Not like I care since I already played it but still
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>>259114430
Why would they put a niche series on the PS3? Persona is at least popular enough to warrant the financial risk.
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>>259122770
I put a see through shell on my DS Lite but I can't find any for 3DS
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>>259123173
According to VGChartz it sld around 500K units.

Nocturne at 380K
DDS at 130K
DDS2 at 80K
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>>259123520
>dat source

Still those SMT IV numbers are without Europe
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>>259122894

>There's a random traitor in every playthrough!
>Get excited
>But instead of playing mind games of paranoia, you just read minds and shit
>...
>Also if the traitor gets voted to die he dies giving a grand speech about how he is the traitor instead of you having to live with the paranoia of him/her still remaining in your group until the end

It had good ideas, but the devs couldn't be subtle and interesting if their lives depended on it.
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>>259123520
I'm pretty sure a shitload of people was expecting something like Persona.

There's no way in hell that SMT V is going to sell that much with Japan and Murrica only.
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>>259123449
Why are Nintendo so willing to give sweetheart deals but not Sony?
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>>259124061
Because Nintendo needs 3rd Party support to break the black PR. Sony doesn't, since they make the black PR.
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>>259124061
Because Sony wants the Call of Ruty Tuty Point and Shooty audience now.
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>>259123520
Yeah Atlus said DDS underperformed hard especially in America, same thing with nocturne when it released
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>>259123970
In Japan SMT4 beat all previous first week SMT main and Persona releases except P4 on PS2.

>>259124061
What? The mainline SMT audience is usually on Nintendo in Japan. And considering how much SMT4 was pandering to the old games (that were mostly on Nintendo games)

>>259124360
Japan is a crater for console development, so I don't blame them.
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HERES HOPING WE BOTH SEE EACH OTHER ALIVE AGAIN
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>>259114006
>I hate superior games for killing a boring franchise
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>>259113632
smt4 costs more than persona 4 golden, why do you think it's made by a b-team
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>>259124331
>>259124360
>>259124373
So the secret for SMT seems to be letting Nintendo handle advertising. Featuring heavily in Directs, doing another deal like buy SMTIV and FE:A and get $20 back.
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>>259124798
It cost more because it comes with a music cd and a book
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What are your hopes for this?
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>>259124931
It cost more becuase it came on a higher capacity 3DS card at a time when Animal Crossing literally couldn't be pressed fast enough.
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>>259124931
the digital version doesn't
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>>259125079
My favorite SRPG and JRPG

What could go wrong
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>>259125079
plays like devil survivor, but without bullshit unbalanced fights
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>>259124931
>>259124798
And because Atlus is testing out a new 10$ tax for their games since they know that their fanbase is willing to pay for it
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>>259125362
with their constant sales, who the fuck would buy atlus games at full price?

hell, I just bought every single persona game on vita for less than 49 dollars
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A friend lent me his DS to play and SMT4 is one of the games he has for it. Should I be prepared to be disappointed? I've played nocturne and DDS 1/2 and liked those
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>>259125586
It's really fun.
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>>259125586
No, it was easily the best JRPG released the last 2 years.
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>>259124590
WELCOME TO THE CATHEDRAL OF SHADOWS


NOWWWWW
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>>259125586
You should because SMT4 is a piece of shit.
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Not gonna lie most of mainline is boring as fuck garbage outside of Nocturne and DDS. Ooooh I get to fight God or Satan?! HOW ORIGINAL!

At least in Persona there's a Lovecraftian horror who's the root of every shadow, Greek deities (which are as over used as god and satan) and other things as well.

They've got to make more Nocturne and DDS' or no ones gonna give a fuck because Satan vs. God is fucking boring at this point. Hell bring back Raidou.
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>>259125586
Now its easily one of the best RPGs in the last few years. most of the people bitching is all the kanekofags
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>>259119776
1/2 are fucking terrible games in comparison to 3/4 though. You can set IS to play itself and win against almost every boss that isn't Nyarly or those five alien things I forget the name of. Hell I beat Shadow Tatsuya in two turns just spamming the best spells.

2 has the best cast and villain though there's no denying that but all 1 has going for it is a JRPG hipster bait battle system and Mr. #1 our lord and savior Nanjo.
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>>259125079
A little something like this
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>>259125748
>tfw no Raidou 3

I just want to be a detective again
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Fatlus is having an eShop sale (what a fucking surprise)
Is Overclocked any good? I never got around playing the DS version.
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>>259113369
no
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>>259126460
Very good, well worth $15
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These games have some of the worst music in an rpg series I've ever heard.
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>>259126284
I want a Raidou 3 and a Sam and Max Style game starring Raidou, Katsuya, and Naoto. Also I'd want Platinum to handle the battle system for a Raidou 3
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>>259126661
this is bait
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>>259126661
SMT IV has one of the best video game soundtracks of all time
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>>259126661
>I want you guys to post SMT music

Just for that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdLt-oydrxE
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>>259126661
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What SMT games should I play? I want to get into this series.
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>>259126661
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>>259127110
Nocturne, SJ and IV.
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>>259126661
eat a dick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE_xGNg0JS0
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>>259126661
music time faggot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUK3ZnH0_ZU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3qbHpWMByM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZYJ-5sLazQ
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>>259125727
hahahahahahahahahahaha holy shit shut the fuck up
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>>259126661
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHhpFGmmUMU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1qS9LMuK8M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtRzDYYBuY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgCvnkg4ncY

No

>>259127110
For SMT, 4 is the best place to start since it has the smoothest gameplay. Strange Journey is a prequel to it in terms of gameplay, but it's way more dungeon crawling than 4 or 3. 3 is the most popular one of mainline SMT and where most started out on. It's rougher to play since you'll be missing out on a lot of gameplay tweaks and improvements, but it's one of the better games of the franhcise.
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>>259127529
name something better. i cant in the past 2 years
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>>259119813

I love how ailments dont work in bosses tho
it makes them quite useless
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>>259126995
SMTIV has the most bland and unoriginal music I've heard in a JRPG since the SNES era. You're a fucking delusional fanboy, there isn't a single tune in the entire game worth a damn
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>>259127656
Bravely Default
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>>259127110
Nocturne (PSN $8)
SMT IV (eShop $20)
Strange Journey (DS game ~$20)

Side games
Devil Survivor (SRPG, eShop $15)
Soul Hackers (eShop $15)
Raidou 2 (action RPG, PSN $4)

Persona blah blah(PSN)
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>>259127257
>PSP port redid all the music with jpop shit
Why did I buy that release.
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Playing SMT 1 on iOS. I'm right after Tokyo is destroyed. And you are in that void world. God damn those two guards are annoying. Guess I just have to find more demons with Zio.
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>>259127747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHhpFGmmUMU

Please stop talking.
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>>259127747
The only SMT game with good music is Strange Journey. All the others just have shitty EPIC GUITAR RIFTS or jpop
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>>259127656
not him but while I loved SMT4 Etrian Odyssey 4 was better

>>259127751
lol
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>>259127751
>FFV's gameplay system with a story that repeats itself 4 times over
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>>259127751
bahahahahahahah

not even close.
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They care
The fans do not

It's an important distinction.
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>>259127992
Has Kanye West sampled this yet?
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>>259127992
That song is terrible, and your taste in music (and games) is utter shit.

>>259128018
>>259128021
>>259128030
Bravely Default was completely mediocre and yet still better than SMTIV
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>>259127747
youre really going all out with the bait anon. heres your reply
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>>259127895
I know it hurts anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAgJKJbD0sE
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Probably wrong thread to ask but I'll give it a shot.

Did they improve P2's battle mechanics on the psp version? I'm stuck in the original version, I can't stand that tarot cards system and the battles are dull.

I loved the story and characters but can't force myself to play it.
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>>259128182
I would honestly love him if he sampled it. Could've made a decent Yeezus track too.
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>>259128018
>links to shit music
>hurr stop talking lol!
You're cute

>>259128209
>everyone you disagree with must be trolling
SMTIV has terrible music. Even Nocturne had better music with that stupid yodeling in the background.
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>>259128190
see
>>259128209

>>259128334
no its virtually the same just better ui. you speed up attack animations at least so the battles go faster. tarot cards arent needed either really. you can get through the game with just everyones original persona and their revolutions
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>>259128306
I just need to finish it off so I'm done with it. Not even sure how long the title is.
Just entered a temple area beside a casino in an area with a bunch of wigged folks.
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>>259127992
that sounds like shit
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>>259128431
I just found out Good Life is sampled from P.Y.T. today

Sample this too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikjJIdqDSQM
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>>259128470
did you mess up your quotes there or something
calm down man
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>>259128015
>EPIC GUITAR RIFTS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqKWbj7mgmw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQshvU18RDw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrc8uts-fpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0MEIzRlM8s

Where?

I do know that SMT4 had mad guitars in the battle themes, but saying that that's all there is in it's soundtrack is bullshit
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>>259125079

It will be SMT with waifus

So it will finally revive the series
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>>259128774
>calm down
time to grow up kiddo
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Anyone read Digital Devil Story. Which is the books the SMT games are based off of.

So far reading it and man Nakajima is a fucking moron.
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>>259128015
What? SMT IV has the best unlicensed hip-hop/urban music in any recent game I can remember.
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>>259125317

>Having to buy a wii U to play it

There
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anime
buttrock
cashgrab
guitars
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So who were the guys that were talking to you when you named your character in 4? the whites?
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>>259128985
I ordered the recently released book based on Digital Devil Saga but I never read the original

>>259129140
Bought one for Tropical Dong
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>>259129140
>Gamepad would work perfectly for SRPG
>Hating it because it's Nintendo
Yeah alright.
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>Autists crying about SMT being dead
>Since P4 release we've gotten 2 mainline games (with SJ being the best mainline imo) and one with a very mainlinesque thematic (Devil Survivor)
>Still complain that the series is dead

You can shout SMT IS DEAD at the top of your lungs however much you want but it won't become truth.

The worst part is that when IV came out it was really discussed and seemingly enjoyed by the board but most people now pretend they didn't like it to (my guess) spite P4? This board truly has a goldfish memory.

Altough I'll concede the future is kinda uncertain, even P5 is getting undoubtedly delayed by now.
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>>259129323
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11595923-digital-devil-story?ac=1

Only 1 and 2 are translated sadly. But KMT 1 is meant to be a continuation of the second book.
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>>259126284
I just want more devil summoner games in general.
Soul Hackers was the tits.
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>>259129097
It's OK Son of man. We're just working to satisfy the masses. Once you play the game, I'm sure you'll understand the ways in which we must approach the general market.

Persona is the future.
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SMT IV is to videogame music as Drive is to movie music
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>>259117589
There's a big difference between having cute, likable girls in your game and having them exist to be romance options.
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>>259129325

>Hating it because it's Nintendo
>Meanwhile I have a 3ds

What?
I just dont wanna buy a console that have a collection of games that does not attract me at fucking all
Hell I would rather buy a ps4 than a wii u because atleast I know ps4 might have a shit ton of weeb shit one day

>inb4 zelda, mario and other nintendo shit
No I dont like that shit
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>>259128702
SMT4 has a lot of good stuff that could be used in music as samples.
>>259129097
>SMT IV has the best unlicensed hip-hop/urban music in any recent game I can remember.
The hell? It's more 80s like synths and guitars than anything. P3 is the urban one (and I love it)
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>>259129519
Do they plan on translating all of them?
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>>259129842
Don't know. Honestly they are not really good. It's your normal 80's shitty horror book. But I personally like those books. A guilty pleasure of mine.
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>>259129810
>The hell? It's more 80s like synths and guitars than anything. P3 is the urban one (and I love it)

I guess it depends on what artist it makes you think of. A lot of it reminds me of Prince and MJ.
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How do you feel about Atlus milking EO too?
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>>259129770
That's fine but arguing that it's a shitty game because it's on the Wii U is dumb.
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>>259130219
I'll give it a download.
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>>259130524
You will really hate the main character Nakajima. He's just a fucker that feel should just die.
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>>259130379
>A lot of it reminds me of Prince and MJ.
..which a lot of is synths as well. SMT4's music goes for an "80s cyber punk" feel, which does so perfectly.
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>>259130749
Shinji-kun?
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>>259130828
I can't wait for the uptick in SMTIV threads when yuros get it
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>>259130893
I actually liked Shinji in Eva. Hell he was one of the only main characters that I actually liked weirdly enough.
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>>259130509

No
Its because I need to buy a console that I dont wanna buy
And I know for sure im not the only one who wouldn't buy a wii U just for SMTxFE

I would buy a ps3 just for P5 tho
Why?, its not because , omg I have persona dick in my throat
But its because if I want to play other games on that system, I know I will find many stuff
>>
Why is there so much infighting in the Mainline fanbase? It always seems like everyone is shitting on at least one of these games for no real good reason. Every mainline game is at the very least a good game.
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Would Atlus really just waste the SMT IV engine?
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>>259131139
No one should ever buy a console for one game. Just saying bashing SMTxFE because it's on the Wii U isn't stupid.
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>>259131567
>Nocturne fags
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>>259131567
I do agree with you that it's stupid to bash any of the mainline games. However I do agree with a lot of people that says IV is the weakest of the 4 games.
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>>259131109
i always found shinji fuckable
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>>259131139
I think you're missing a point of what he's saying. You can hate SMT x FE all you want, but hating it just because it's on Wii U is stupid.
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>>259132212
Agree. I really need to watch those movies. Heard they are pretty good.
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>>259131950
I would rate them

Nocturne
IV
Strange Journey(?)
II
I
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>>259132410
Only 1 and 2 though.
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>>259131604
I wouldn't be surprised if SMT4 ran on a heavily modified EO4 engine, since SJ ran on EO's DS engine.
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>>259131950
I loved IV but I feel like I can agree with that. As a game, I would put it above 1 but it's weaker than itin terms of story. It just seamed like patched together events if that makes sense. Plus there's the DLC and $50 price take. The former has no place in any Atlus game and the latter is silly.
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>>259132434
I haven't played SJ yet. Heard really good things however.

Me it's
II
Nocturne
I
IV
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>>259132696
The story being weak was done intentionally so you'd have to find it yourself through NPCs. The DLC is stupid though, I agree. And gameplay wise, even if demon fusing is way better, Nocturne has a better combat system.
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>>259132576
Is 3 (I think that was the one that came out) that bad?
>>259132696
I just felt IV was so fucking boring. SMT 1 felt more pieced together. Not great but better than IV.
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>>259129640
But Drive had some good music.
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>>259133147
I feel you can have a solid story while putting yourself as the MC. It also wasn't the story was weak but it was boring. As soon as you got to Tokyo I felt like I was just stumbling around looking for something to cling to but nothing came.
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>>259133152
I hated it, don't know people's general idea about it.
But I thought it was as bad as Eva can be.
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i like persona 543
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>>259132628
SJ was also a dungeon crawler you fucking retard
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>>259132434
>nocturne
>better than anything
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I didn't much care for Nocturne's story (mostly because the world felt nothing like Tokyo) and I love SMT IV's battles for how much faster they happen. I also like that the mazes aren't as ballbusting and I have a map at alltimes.
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>>259133612
I'll still watch it in any case. I really haven't even touched Eva in almost 10 years. I feel so fucking old.
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>>259132628
EO and SJ were made by the same teams.
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>>259133959
Oh sure, watch them all, ya gotta go all the way anyway.
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>>259133959
I heard the main theme yesterday and realized how long ago it was I first watched it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX462lGeoXs
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>>259133147
The NPC thing was great, I wasn't knocking that. In fact, I'd like it if more games had you go out of the way to have you piece the whole thing together. The problem is it just feels like an episodic tv show. One where only a few episodes contribute to the greater plot. Sorta like Cowboy Bebop.
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>>259133858
My main problem with Nocturne is how you never spend time with your friends. At least in SMT 1 you spend enough time to feel they are friends. In Nocturne you only talk to them for 5 minutes and than you hardly ever talk to them. You never really build any connection to them which really hurts it in my mind.
>>
>playing IV
>ng+
>guy in your dreams asks if you'll help him this time
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>>259133612
3.33 is really polarizing. In the kind of way where you like it on a rewatch or don't like it at all. No middle ground.

It was a really strange way to advance the plot.
>>
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/megaten/megaten.htm

Do these articles spoil the stories?
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>>259134338
is this like a movie or something? what's it about?
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>>259134338
God damn the memorizes. I remember watching it 10 years ago in college. Also I always feel so out of place because I really did feel Shinji was the best character in the show. I hated almost everyone else.
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>>259120130
Brad? You know what time it is
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>>259134375

Now that you mention it, I liked the episodes of Cowboy Bebop where they just dicked around (Toys in the Attic, Mushroom Samba) much more than the ones related to their past or the stuff going on with Vicious.

Maybe that's why I liked SMTIV's plot so much, it's pretty much "Find the black samurai while dicking around in Tokyo, then dick around some more"
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How is SMT dead? SMT IV just came out a year ago and sold the same as Persona Q and P4G did in Japan. I don't understand what you guys want. Do you want this to be a yearly franchise? Stop fucking overreacting.
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>>259134904
we gonna play the persona game?
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>>259134789
It's a anime series that starts out as a monster of a week series and ends up somewhere crazy.

The story is currently being retold through a series of movie releases.
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>>259135073
I think OP just wanted an SMT thread and started by stirring shit up.
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>>259134789
Wait you never heard of Eva? Who the fuck doesn't know of Eva?
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>>259135109
Who's that super-fly musclepumper? (It's, it's, it's, it's Brad)
>>
Is it strange that the only pictures of god that I know of are old white man with a beard and bald head yellow guy?
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Does this game ever get better?
I always hear people say good things about it, but I just don't see it. Why does Atlus milk it so much?
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>>259114825
>Persona 4 Dancing All Night
>Persona 4 Visualive
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>>259135340
I just don't watch anime very often, and when I do, it's the funny stupid kind
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>>259135513
Weebs like it.
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>>259135513
it's fun!
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>>259135782
Watch the original series
Then End of Evangelion
Then the current movies
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do you think is fair that i get to live with all this agony ?
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>>259135513
I have an idea on why Persona is a much more popular series and that's how both take their games.

Persona is more uplifting where you feel you are changing things for the better.

SMT is way more depressing in how things go. Where people you care about go more and more to their respected extremes. And the game is all about punishing going to the extreme.
>>
I didn't know this was in the game until I went back and listened to the OST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCCKSr8V5QA
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>>259135937
>End of Evangelion
Might have the best end of the world song ever made
>>
P3 music or P4 music?

To be close wins it single-handedly for me.
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>>259134906
I personally don't think that kind of narrative works for a game as serious and urgent as SMTIV but I respect your opinion.
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>>259136175
Forgot link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=didzxUkrtS0
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>>259135886
I thought P3 was fun, but this game is just boring and slow. And it manages to be even easier than 3 too.
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>>259136165
Oh that's amazing.

>>259136202
P3. The urban sound is still pretty unique in a JRPG, and it just sounds great.
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>>259136345
This is what I expected the White Ending to be like
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why should you guys get to laugh while i am force to cry ?
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>>259136005
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>>259135937
But I would like to know the story of this not reccomendations
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>>259136619
20+ years later we still don't know how to interpret the story
>>
>>259136619
Creatures come to Earth to kill the human race. Human built "mechs" (they are not really mechs) to fight them off. Really fucked up shit happens. I don't want to spoil anything because it really is something you should find out yourself.
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>>259136619
It's a psychological thing with orange juice that people still debate about to this day.
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>>259136796
I honestly don't think even he knows how to interpret the story. He actually just went insane near the start of Eva and no one seem to have to balls to stop him.
>>
Why don't Atlus ever get Yuzo Koshiro on a SMT game so he can finally surpass Streets of Rage?
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>>259136202
Both are really fucking good, but p3 edges out, in my opinion. Yumi Kawamura is just far better than that p4 singer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-CSZDbKuL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpNhxUIMXug
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>>259137049
EO work > SoR work
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>>259137049
Because he's on EO now.

We fucking need EO5 to bring back the FM. It's no real EO without FM (even of EO4's music was fantastic)
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Why do you get to enjoy the best life have to offer while while i get to choke on its leftovers
>>
>>259136619
The best part is forming your own idea of what happens
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>>259137175
I think my favorite lyrics come from iwotodai dorm
>unintelligible deep voice
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>>259137049

His EO work is really good. Except EO doesn't do FM anymore unfortunately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLFP17IvTno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlpVp-2fP6k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEsgRhIhHf8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw6Wc3VzNzE
>>
I'm currently playing SMT IV, what should I get next, Strange Journey or Soul Hackers?

I've played Nocturne, DDS, Devil Survivor, Persona, SMTII, and Raidou, and I also plan on playing both of these, but which should I get first?
>>
>>259115876
Why the fuck were you expecting Cave Story from SMT?
>>
>>259137553
Didn't he do FM versions of the new tracks of Untold?
>>
>>259137745
It was just the original tracks
>>
>>259136012
Except that it's only P4 that's substantially happier than SMT.
>>
>>259137745

Yeah but that's because all the music was already written, and there weren't that many new tracks anyway. Who knows if they'll do that for 5.
>>
>>259137694
SJ.
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>>259137553
I like the non-FM more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR67ERbu96o
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>>259137882
I really hope so, because cancelling the FM OST for 4 was painful for me.
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>>259115201
>put waifus in SMT
That's what persona is.
>>
You're a faggot Op

Hee-ho
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>>259137424
GET THE BODY WITH A BURNT LASAGNA

YEAH
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ANSWER ME THIS WHY DO ALL YOU MC GET THE PIZZA WHILE ALL I GET IS CRUST
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>>259137734
>caves
>dungeons
come on anon
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>>259138086
Isabeau is best waifu though
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>>259138186
alright i put off playing persona 2 to finish the snow queen quest in 1 on a scale of 1 to 10 how fucked did he get by the end of both games?
>>
>>259138323
I regret doing the other routes sometimes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMSmi8ZOSno
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>>259137049
He already surpassed Streets of Rage long ago.
>>
I wish I liked playing SMT/Persona games when P4 first came out. I just came here for Japan Time.
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>>259138395
I WISH I WAS A DOOR FUCK
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So what are some good SMT games I could emulate on my PSP that aren't any Person games?
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>>259138395
go finish them
I just did a few weeks ago

the depression is real
>>
>>259126239
>Mr. #1 our lord and savior Nanjo
I thought I was the only one that noticed. He felt more like the main character the the main character. At least let other's have some of the spotlight.
>>
>>259138847
SMT1 and 2 english patch.
Demikids
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>>259137829
The new tracks got FM versions.
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>>259138909
>that part where he talks some much shit on kandori that he gets ass blasted
>that part where he tells maki to man the fuck up
>on top of all that he's a great party member
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>>259138847
SMT1,2 and If
You can also play Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei too
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>English SMT 1 is never coming to android
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I did nothing wrong
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>>259139030
I believe you but what are some examples?
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>>259138292
What a fucking terrible image you posted, anon.
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>>259138186
Shutup Tatsuya, at least you don't have to reincarnated every time you die to witness the destruction of the world over and over again
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>>259139528
All I got was retarded, unlikeable characters, horrid dungeons, lack of gameplay, repetition, a bad combat system and catchy music.
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So how are you guys on the US server liking the new avatar appearance system?
Oh, wait....
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>>259139528
fuck you P3P was fine
I didn't get to play FES until after
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>>259113369
SMT's problem is that it's niche as all fuck. It just doesn't have the selling power Persona does. ATLUS wants money. Do the math.

And I'm not saying this as a Purseowner fag. Currently playing Nocturne and I just beat Hellbiker. Fucking loving the setting.
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>>259140206
The games sell fine in japan as far as I know.
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>>259140206
But PQ, SMT4 and P4G all sold about the same average in the first week. Atlus focuses more on Persona since it's more marketable.
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>>259140404
The games sell fine in the US too. There is nothing wrong with SMT. Persona is just even more popular.
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>>259136005
He looks like Sakurai
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>>259123504
fucking Nips, hogging all the cool shit.
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I'd like to see SMT IV's neutral path get an anime.
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>>259140856
It'll probably be adapted by Seiji Kishi and it will probably be a rushed piece of shit like all his other game adaptations.
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>>259138395
I'm waiting for the fan translation of EP PSP that will never come. So fucking annoyed they brought only one part over.
>>259140404
All of Atlus games sell well. They are super cheap to make so they never need mega blockbuster sales.
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>>259140676
does he?
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>>259121692
SMT is little less obscure in Japan than in thr west.
just a little
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>>259115876
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>>259144834
I just did this with SMT2 and am enjoying it.
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>>259122645
I read like 70% of the first novel. It's really trashy. I stopped reading it when I realized it's basically the little OVA verbatim, so if you watch that, it's EXACTLY the same, minus some narration points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9EmljYt7JM
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>>259115876
SMT I made my 'Murrka dick hard
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>>259113369
There hasn't been a NEW persona since the fucking PS2. Atlus cares, they're just slow as shit
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>>259145430
In effect, you could watch the OVA, then read Part 2, then play alternate Part 3 game and have a multimedia experience.
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>>259127976
Protip: Invest in a demon with Estoma. Trust me on this.
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Kaneko is too busy with that Evangelion remake.
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>SMT game comes out
>Personafags whine because its not P5 or another P4 spinoff

>Persona game comes out
>SMTfags whine because its more popular and claim its going to kill SMT

And the cycle continues
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>>259146618
>prog knife fingers

Is that more or less dumb then a stiletto stabbed in your face?
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>>259115729
underratted post
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>>259147002
About as dumb as putting an Eva in an Eva that can turn into a cat.
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>>259113369
Who's that retarded looking snowman?
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>>259114430
>All they care about is fucking Persona
Well yeah. Who knew that taking away the dark and psychological/cosmic horror aspects that defined nearly all SMT games in favor of brightly colored anime shit would be so successful?
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>>259147053
You wish
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>>259147720
There's plenty of horror games out there that still manage to be succesful than SMT without needing animu shit

You guys just need to realize SMT is mediocre
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>>259116218
>Raidou is even more dead
And I get sad every time I remember that fact.
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>>259147641
>tfw teddie is the new atlus mascot.
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Do they not care about Summon Night anymore?
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I just want a new __Maken__ game.
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>>259150302
Summon Night wasn't really made by Atlus.
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>>259150631
My nigga, and bring the DC game to PSN
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I played SMT IV last year and loved it. Magic build rekt shit so it was to hard though still pretty challenging.

Am I ready for nocturne? Or should I try Strange Journey first. Keep in mind that I've only played SMT 2 and 4 (and I fucking quit 2).
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>not milking the series = dead
And haven't the mainline games always been spread out time wise? The main line series only consists of five games, and it's not like it suddenly started to slow down either.
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Is it bad that the thing I love the most about SMT is seeing the MC's friends become such extremists and killing them?

Only SMT game I've completed so far is IV, I just bought Strange Journey two days ago.
I used to be a huge persona faggot until SMT4 released and loved it.

SMT4 had way better characters than any Persona game
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>>259150829
It might not be the best game ever from a gameplay perspective but I love how gloomy and "everything is on the verge of being fucked" the setting is.

Disease, the threat of nuclear war, suicide cults, Margaret Thatcher. Shit's fucked and it's great.
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Strange Journey on Wii U pls
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>>259153303
Let me make SMTxFE first, sheesh.
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>>259151576
Try Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2 before nocturne.
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>>259152471
SMT IV has no character development what so fucking ever
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>>259153771
thats exactly my point though
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>>259153708
k
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http://www.smt-dds.net/

Have you logged onto the DDSNET today
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is there anyway to play the ios SMT1 on my computer?
I tried the english patched rom and it was terrible
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>>259154660
Which english patch did you use? I have a rom that includes both patches, and a hack to enable quick map access with the L/R buttons.

http://www.smt-dds.net/smt1_fix.rar
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>>259154347
I really would love to know what went on in the MC's head after he learned his mom was eaten by a demon.

"Oh man almost everyone I love is now dead. All I have is my dog who came up to me and console me when I needed it.… well I guess I'm going to fuse him with a demon now."
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>>259155639

I dont think he cares anymore.
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>>259158203
Don't feel too bad.
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