>There are people who are falling for this after Gematsu and after it's been 90% proven fake
It has to prove that it's real first. And "just trust me on this one" isn't a proof of anything except that /v/ is gullible.
BTFOfags like you are scum, and you're going to be the death of this board.
>It has to prove that it's real first.
How the fuck are you going to disprove it when it's confirmed real, genius?
You're stupid. Quit being a retard.
Still in according to leak, not all characters are shown on screen
Still missing Dixie, Ridley, and Chorus Men
Theres no DLC
that we know of, that guy was someone else reposting the pictures on /v/, not the original leaker
Leaks can't prove that it's real, that's the whole thing of a leak.
also, keep riding on your denialstick. You're gonna go full damage control once September 11th rolls around.
>Pit's hair jutting out of the box and into Donkey Kong
>No names on the bottom of the boxes
>Levels underneath player characters
>The Shulk portrait being made by Masterlinkx, who confessed to it
>Despite it being claimed it's the full roster, the characters aren't even close to being aligned
The only reason I don't laugh in the face of everyone who believes it is because of that room in the Tomodachi Life stage, which has me baffled.
1) Leaks gave us the roster but none of the details; we have very little to go on as far as move details and such, and Dark Pit is leaving a bad taste in people's mouths when it comes to their favorite veterans and/or unlikely newcomers.
2) Speculation is more fun than the actual end product.
Honestly, I don't want Ridley in for one reason. It's not because he's too big or because I want Ridley fans to be upset, but because he just seems to outlandish in comparison to every other character. He just doesn't fit in well with the whole thing Kerfuffle's got going on.
No, that wasn't a "Ridley is too big" joke.
>Lucas, Ice Climbers, wolf and Snake are cut
>no fan favourites left other than Shulk who was already likely
I'm in the same boat, as long as there's shitflinging I'm happy with the result, but lets be real. More shift would be lost if Ridley was in than if he wasn't
>"I can tell by the pixels that it's shopped!"
>New section of tomodachi life stage confirmed by famitsu
Plus, bowser has *00 over his head, this in other smashes indicated KO's this isn't under the cpus nor in the other character selects, even in captain falcons screen you do not see the *00. Foxes background colour is green in the game and blue on this screen.
Also if you imply that these were added features after the 3ds demo. You would alos have to imply they added these features without first correcting the black bar ui glitch which is present under Kirby.
Dark Pit pisses me off. That's it tho.
Fucking Sakurai. Shoehorning in extra characters from his shit series... Kid. Icarus. will have as many reps as Kirby. more than Metroid. more than Donkey Kong. It's a fucking joke. Palutena is a big stretch, too.
YOU FAKEFAGS CANT WAIT TO GET BLOWN THE FUCK OUT AGAIN CANT YA?!!
Confirmed by who, the leaker? Come back when you have video footage or an actual dev vouching for its legitimacy
The burden of proof lies with the leaker, who has not provided enough REAL evidence to support his claims.
Without any sort of gameplay video, or even real and non-blurry screenshots of the gameplay, this is still fake.
nah, that's what you'll be doing on september 11th
>yfw that day
You have no idea how this whole burden of proof thing works, quit being a retard.
A leaker has made a claim; If you want to say it's not real, disprove the claim.
I am fine with this roster but only because of the zss being corrected somewhat with the zero mission and fusion costumes. But it is fake, I am confident in that fact and looking forward to the actual roster.
Plus, what where the supposed DLC characters?
I personally have lost validity with the roster thing with the whole *00 thing and the fox background. Minor hiccups like these disprove the whole leak, which seemed to take a while to muster up.
Honestly the main issue I have with this leak is that if it's from ESRB then this is the final, definitive roster. Nintendo can't hide things from ESRB, so this is everything we'll get, which is pretty damn lame imo.
DLC leaker was apparently piggybacking off of this leak and so DLC is still up in the air.
If this isn't from the ESRB and the name is just there as a way to pin blame on someone, then there's no reason for only the CSS and SSS to be shown. Why not gameplay? Furthermore, if it isn't from the ESRB and is being played from a 2/3DS, where's the bar that separates the two screens?
Prove it's not real and undoctored before you start saying it's fake, you stupid fuck. How hard is this to understand?
I did. I don't believe them, and /v/ is so desperate for new information that they'd probably believe me if I said that Master Chief was playable as long as I had a screenshot with him on the character select menu. .
A real leaker would have shown gameplay, not a menu. I gotta say, it sure is lazy to show the characters were in the menu without actually giving any ingame screenshots of them in action. That's what I would have done in his position.
The burden of proof is usually on a person making a new or improbable claim, and the presumption is commonly such a claim is false. For instance, suppose that someone claims that the president was taken by flying saucer to another planet, but when challenged can supply no evidence of this unusual trip. As there is no evidence that the president visited another planet, therefore he probably didn't do so.
He won't though, he underestimated on how people would nitpick and find flaws in his work. So if anything he will be trying to muster up new screenshots. But he is going to be more careful, but the thing is. If he did it for the laughs he already succeeded and doesn't have to do anything more. If I had the skills to do this, I would do it with every game release.
But the fox background WAS changed to blue
>23 days until leakfaggots will finally shut the fuck up
>the duck hunt render never got sourced
>the famitsu scan is in line with the leak when the famitsu scan leaked afterwards.
>it hasn't been proven 100% fake yet
There's no need to make more "proof" when the original images have not been disproven.
The "disprovals" have been minor nitpicks like image compression typos, when people have been ignoring larger things like the Mii menu being entirely new, and CG renders for characters being entirely untraceable on the internet.
If anybody finds a source for the Duck Hunt image, I'd shut up.
The fact that he has provided none whatsoever makes it clear that he never had any intention of proving anything and that once again /v/ cannot tell the difference between rumors and facts.
Unless something actually turns out to be right, in which case they will drown out anything even vaguely related to it with shouts of "ANTILEAKFAGS BTFO" AND "I TOLD U SO".
Nintenyearolds are asleep. Everyone on /v/ knows that PM is the real smash 4.
If you idiots aren't trolling by droning for this fake leak, then y'all are some DUMB motherfuckers. I legitimately feel sorry for how fucking brain damaged you are. This level of stupidity would explain why the quality of this board is so goddamn low. I bet you people are also console warriors.
>Gematsu leaker appears
>make some impossible predictions
>everyone hails Gematsu leaker as god because of it
>leaker ends up busted, chances are those predictions were from a small amount of leaked info
>This leak comes up
>makes some impossible predictions
>everyone is hailing the leaker as god
I await the next character reveal with bated breath.
The person making the claim is the one who has to provide proof, not the one questioning it. I'll believe the roster when I have the game and can see it myself. Until then he's just one more attention whore.
/r/'ing that one fake roster that had shrek in it
>untraceable on the internet
The Klonoa leak is proof enough that it's not difficult for someone to make a convincing render.
Especially when they post a photo of a screen instead of a proper screenshot to cover up their photoshop imperfections.
Enjoy hating fun.
I'mma dump webm's until bump limit
I've downloaded too many smash webm's that are too big for /v/. Do you know any way to lower the filesize?
I always thought the generic Space Pirate, particularly the Metroid Prime variety, would be an excellent Smash Bros fighter. Make it somewhat similar to Samus but more oriented toward close hand-to-hand combat versus projectiles.
Slightly off topic but does anyone else feel legit leaks are getting common?
Off this full year alone I recall
>GTA V PC
Makes me a bit nervous, they're watching
>Yoshi, who's treated as his own franchise, is listed between the Mario characters
>the three bottom clones aren't with their respective franchises.
>G&W and Shulk aren't with the other single series reps
>Shulk, Ness, Bowser Jr. and especially the two new clones can be easily shopped.
>G&W's mouth and thickness don't fit with the design in the Pac trailer
>Jigglypuff's model looks cheaply made and is based on pic related
>no character names
>the esrb doesn't play the games they rate
I don't know. I doubt it, though. They haven't removed Dracula's Castle and if they do get rid of doctor mario they'll just replace it with Sunshine mario.
Apparently, according to one person without a cited source, the P:M modders will keep going with any character they're working on even if said character gets confirmed for Kerfuffle. That's not verified information, though.
Sure is conclusive evidence, you should become a video game journalist with all that natural talent.
Because you're an ignorant fucktard who's shitting up /v/, why else?
>a DVD that captures all pertinent content, including typical gameplay, missions, and cutscenes, along with the most extreme instances of content across all relevant categories. Pertinent content that is not playable (i.e., "locked out") but will exist in the game code on the final game disc must also be disclosed.
The leaker doesn't "disprove" arguments, he just tweaks his image to change or hide any errors he's made (disablad, DDD's inconsistent height). At least he hasn't fixed Ness yet, so that's always an ace anyone can use. I'm not gonna say what needs to be fixed because he's probably reading this right now.
>a DVD that captures all pertinent content, including typical gameplay, missions, and cutscenes
>Pertinent content that is not playable (i.e., "locked out") but will exist in the game code on the final game disc must also be disclosed.
You haven't even realized that you've proven my point.
>implying GF would alienate their entire fanbase by making something as gay as fairies
I seriously know people who didn't buy gen 6 because of fairies, the joke is on me, gen 6 sucked even though I enjoyed it
It's meant to make luigi look good, dumbass.
>someone fails an attack
>THAT'S THE GAMES FAULT IDIOT
Still doesn't change the fact that the leaker never showed screenshots of actual gameplay. Did his phone just suddenly die at every part of the gameplay footage only to recover when he got to the menus?
A character from another series has never been stuck between the characters from another franchise. Wouldn't it make more sense for him to be next to Wario, another character treated as a separate series?
It's a local tourney, of course there'll be about 20 people (and even then you can't get that many people on camera at once)
>If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense.
Leakfags would genuinely believe in Russell's teapot.
How the fuck does it make perfect sense? If this is from the ESRB Nintendo can't omit characters, so the roster must be complete. Therefore, characters must be with their own series. They've been doing this since 64, why the fuck would they change it now?
Don't bring up the clones, not all of them are separate from their own series.
The only clones in smash are mewtwo and snake. You can't prove me wrong.
>Basic roster layout rule demonstrated in every Smash so far to differentiate franchises
>Suddenly Sakurai decides to stick Yoshi in the middle of Mario franchise characters where he's going to more easily be mistaken as a Mario franchise character
It doesn't make sense.
>That's not the original source
So MasterLinkX's tumblr is not the original source now?
Even when people are saying MasterLinkX posted proof he faked it?
Pick one or the other, faggot, it can't be either.
So far, this leak's going strong. Especially after the Famitsu scan. People keep trying to discredit the leak using bullshit, like UI changes, character slot placement and other stupid shit that's pretty much meaningless.
>No they don't
Quite a few characters are already grouped with characters from their own series, yet some aren't. That's pretty inconsistent.
Doesn't Sakurai love to design UIs or something? Why would he tolerate this UI? It doesn't look nice at all.
After the webm's been made? I don't know how to edit those.
It's not only about patterns though, it's also about aesthetics. Sakurai's even gone so far as to post what 3DS' UI looks like.
Look, I'm just saying the CSS looks like shit and that Sakurai better touch it up if the leak is legit.
>Sakurai does care about a layout design choice that's been there since the first smash
And I'm sure you thought Ness and Jigglypuff were grounds for the chopping block, too.
You can yell about people using patterns all day, but this shit throws up red flags.
But why believe the change just because it's possible? The sky could turn red tomorrow, but you wouldn't take that to heart, even if someone showed you a blurry tilted picture of a red sky.
>tfw people STILL NOT realizing he posted this AFTER the leak
He simply recreated it, us drawfags do that all the time.
He's a horsefucker, so I'm sure he's a drawfag too. Not to mention a fucking namefag
So to anyone who mods Brawl/PM, why haven't you put "Break the Targets!" and "Metal Battle" from melee onto FD/BF?
I wanted to watch the full video to see the people's reaction and goddamn the commentators are complete dogshit. You'd think for them taking Melee so seriously, they'd try to be more professional in casting for a tourney
>But why believe the change just because it's possible
Sakurai is unpredictable, and he's constantly making decisions that you wouldn't expect. Changing the ways that characters are grouped together in the CSS isn't something that's super important, either.
Everyone knows smash commentators are shit. People only listen to them because they're either hilariously bad or just plain awful.
>And I'm sure you thought Ness and Jigglypuff were grounds for the chopping block, too.
What are you even talking about?
>You can yell about people using patterns all day, but this shit throws up red flags.
It's such a minuscule part of the game. He's not going to give a shit about how much it's changed from before.
What if I'm just having fun? Smash will never be my job, why would I want to play the same game for 8 hours a day?
I'm not m2k, I can't handle that shit for 8 fucking hours a day.
You can plug in your phone to the Wii/Dolphin? i didn't know that. And here I am spending all my time putting a bunch of songs in.
>It's painfully obvious
>Even though it completely isn't
Actually, it's a "Challenger Approaching" event. PM unlocks every character from the get-go on new brawl saves, but you still have to fight them when you meet the requirements. It's common on netplay.
He slapped that together to get attention. It has nothing to do with the actual leak.
It's inconsistent along with the three clones that aren't with their series'. While the clones and Yoshi are placed like this, all of the other characters are placed in order by franchise. It doesn't make sense unless the entire roster were to be placed like this.
I'm not heralding this as the one reason why I think this is fake. Even if I didn't hold an opinion on it, I'd think this wouldn't be in the leak's favor.
It's this one inconsistency combined with many other quirks like how some characters can be easily shopped or Pit's hair clipping through the border.
What's that one character you really want in Smash, even though they have near-zero chance of getting in?
Of course these leaks are fake, there's a long history of hyped leaks being faked. Look, the guy even admitted to it!
Fucking feel like a bandwangoner for saying this but, either Ray01 (or whatever the lead of the gamecube one was, he was rad as fuck), Isaac (I rather have Felix, but Isaac was in all 3 games.), or
I have a bunch of good memories of Golden sun part 2, and Custom Robo, and think they would have very unique gameplay.
I hated Waluigi alot at first, but he kinda grew on me, the reactions to his reveal would be hilarious, and he is probably the 2nd most /v/ mario character, praise be to Francis.
So before anyone is going to fall for this again, this is done by a drawfag AFTER the leak, it´s painfully easy to recreate this since everything is given already.
Do NOT fall for this please.
Could you highlight where it's clipping? Because if you mean right under DK's mouth, that's a part of DK still. Pit's hair bends the other way.
I doubt the leak's real either, but still.
I will genuinely be upset if Dark Pit is an actual new character.
Why would you choose him over Hades or Medusa?
Why would you cut out Wolf, who is a clone, to add Dark Pit, another clone?
The picture is not original and like >>>258954894 said artifact masking by not recording the screen directurhy.
Compare it to the original, only you can't becaues it's taken from an angle
I wish you faggots would find clipping of different colors for once, because I can't tell shit.
Looks like it could go both ways to me. I can't decide.
Why isn't Lucina with the other Fire Emblem characters?
She should be beside Marth and Ike, not all the way at the bottom.
Granted I don't know what the final roster looks like, but this is just silly.
Well, I'm not surprised. If he's a straight clone like Lucina, people will point out that he should stayed an alt costume. If he's a unique character, people will point out that he's a waste of a slot. I can't blame them, having a character that's literally called Dark Pit is pretty blatant.
he can play different, just like Dark Samus is an AT but doesn't share a move with Samus.
Actually Pittoo might be the most wanted character, considering he's in the top 10 together with Pit, votes are obviously shared between the two.
I don't mind Lucina too much. Yeah, she's a clone, but so is Falco, and Luigi, and Lucina may actually have, albeit a different moveset than Marth, even though she's the same.
It would have been nice to have some other female fire emblem character, but it can't be helped.
Dark Pit is just plain fucking ridiculous. I'd rather fucking Magnus.
This is so fucking silly, I can't even explain.
Sakurai you hack if this is true.
>people still think their favorite character might be unlockable if the leak is true
Sorry fags, that's the entire roster. Notice how Luigi is unlocked when he's already been confirmed to be unlockable.
K. Rool, because Dixie has a better chance and there's no way they'll go the harder route just for K. Rool.
I never even thought of James Bond.
Most of his games are on Nintendo consoles anyway.
There could be all kinds of Bonds to play as too.
Pierce, Daniel, Sean
How much money would they have to pay just to have their likeness in the games, though?
Chrom and Sukapon. Masked Link too, since Majora's Mask isn't getting a remake in time for relevancy in smash.
Having four transformations though- Clone Link, Deku, Goron, and Zora gets my dick hard just thinking about it.
I feel kinda disappointed that Duck Hunt is getting the retro spot, especially since the game wasn't that great. Unless they make a mindblowing critically acclaimed reboot, that's pretty lousy.
Joy Mech Fight is a fun as hell game. Imagine a Kamiya reboot.
Chrom needs to be in as an alt costume at least. That trailer was a bigger fuck you to the fans with the final smash than if they ended it with the "another day" comment. His English VA seemed excited when asked about if he'd do Smash if asked. Make it like Fem Robin.
>people are in such denial of the leak that they are literally going in photoshop and making their own renders to "prove it wrong"
Holy shit, Japan is gonna have their own version of 9/11 when neckbeards all over yurop and murrika form together into one supermassive blob and bodyslam Japan into the ocean.
Unfortunately the Bond movie franchise owned by Sony Pictures so it'd cost several gorillion bucks to gain the likeness plus voices of Bond. 007 I'm Smash will forever just be a dream of mine
Honestly if no newcommers were shown and this roster was leaked I would be fucking hyped as shit
I wanted mega in more than anyone with Little Mac as a close second. Pac and Mii got me really really hype and I liked every newcommer so far.
But because a bunch of people I liked have already been shown my standards kept getting lower
Honestly I got to the point where I didnt really know who I wanted in because so many people I wanted got in
After enought hinking I realized that I want Dixie (well more of a new DK rep), Paper Mario, and Bomberman
But because this leak came out when it did and did not have any of my remaining newcomers I felt a surge of disappointment, most of it comming from dr.mario and dark pit, as I feel they are more suited for skins.
Also got kind of mad that they would add a new mario rep but for some reason no other reps from nintendos two other A-Class franchises (zelda and pokemon)
I honestly dont believe or disbelieve the leak at this time, just giving my two bits
Duck hunt dog is cool though.
>people are so willing to believe the leak that they're ignoring basic common sense in their compulsion to believe in it
And I'd hate to be Sakurai when the leakfags realize they were hyping up a motherfucking wishlist.
We always knew kerfuffle would be shit, Anon. We just enjoyed watching for the drama. The last good Smash Bros. was Melee. Project M is pretty good too, and will hopefully continue to improve. Sakurai is the Japanese George Lucas and he wants to destroy the thing he made because he feels like he made it too good.
It sure was better at being shit that's for sure.
Every other series gets shat on by /v/ if it attempts to pander to casuals yet Smash is the exception.
I hope the final roster gets revealed soon so that Project M can add Krystal and Ridley. The Kerfuffle lineup has been pretty shit so far TBH.
Another Fox-tier speed character with sexier animations.
There's also Katt Monroe, but she's not as popular. Also, Katt would definitely be a Fox clone, while with Krystal there's a chance of her being a quarterstaff user.
>only female animal character
But that's wrong
>Duck Hunt render still hasn't been found
>Tomodachi Life's never-before-seen room shown in this leak before Famitsu confirmed it
These are the only things that are holding this sketchy shit together and until someone finds the render and Sakurai deconfirms both DHD and the Tomodachi shit somehow everything else like CSS tangents and almost-sameface doesn't matter and we shouldn't be talking about it until some shit gets proven.
That said, I'm interested in what DHD's moveset will be.
They got their wish. They begged so hard for tears and btfo's that not only did Ridley, K. Rool, Isaac, Mach Rider, Mewtwo, and any other requested character not make it, but ones nobody wanted, even them, did.
This is the future they chose.
Really, all that has to be done to confirm/deconfirm it is to wait for another veteran reveal, and see whether the official art's pose matches the pose of the character in the leak.
Not sure if that was the same leak or a different one riding off the hype, but going solely off this specific leak's pictures and seeing as there's still 6 character squares left to fill up the CSS, I wouldn't rule them out until they're de/confirmed as unlockables.
Say what you want about any particular group of fans of any requested character, "tearsfags" and "btfofags" have been the dumbest group throughout this gen's Japan Time. It's like people claiming they enjoy shooting themselves in the foot.
>Roster not fully unlocked, as shown by characters being out of order
>If this is real we get the Big Guy
>tfw i'll still be on /v/ in 7 years having the same arguments about how ridley could and should be in smash 5
I'm not sure you you pedo fuckers in the "Warioware is a pretty good series" are being ironic or not anymore.
Yeah so is Rob, he saved the game industry
So is Ice Climbers, they represented NES for melee!
Excitebike was popular and memorable, it will be in as well!
Fuck off, these NES characters aren't iconic unless they're already in since melee.
>Anthro furry porn of marketing gimmicks
Sonic was made specifically to be the Anti-Mario that pushed the Genesis.
Fox was made specifically to be the face of a game showing off daring new 3D technology.
He's in, deal with it nerds
Honestly, the reason why this roster is getting blown out of proportion is purely because we're 3 characters from having a Brawl Do-Over (bar Snake who is most likely not returning).
This list basically slaps everyone in the face by having Dr. Mario, Pitto and DHD take their places.
Dr. Mario and Pitto took Lucas' and Wolf's spots while DHD took Ice Climbers' spot.
And then we got Bowser Jr. to add insult to injury.