Can we discuss this? Would you be happy if this was real? Smash thread
>eventually a legit leak is going to be posted
>it's going to be "disproven"
>post release shitstorm
Alright, let's just think about it. 7 Mario reps and one of them isn't Captain Toad, who's getting his own game? Nope. Why would Dr. Mario return? And for me, the entire Dark Pit thing is fucking stupid. People were dumb enough to believe he'd be his own slot, yet anyone with a brain knows he'll be an alt costume. Lucina had slight differences with Marth, so that's why she's her own slot. There are no differences between Dark Pit and Pit. Same height, same everything. They even have the same VA.
>No Ice Climbers
>Dug Hunt Dong
>Dark FUCKING PIT
I'm sorry son, but I'm afraid this isn't going to cut it.
>Dr. Mario, Bowser jr., Dark Pit, Shulk and fucking duck hunt dog are in
>Wolf and Lucas are cut
>Mewtwo is a figment of your imagination
Nah fuck that.
We're discussing leaks now? This seems to fit with what OP posted. It's probably fake, but whatever. http://ssb4dojo.com/post/95117956241/rumor-list-reddit-2
It is, but I mean, come on here. Sakurai said he was having trouble with the Ice Climbers on the 3DS and people thought they were gonna be cut, that's why they're not on there. It's retarded. They mean to tell me that Sakurai can fit Smash on a handheld, get 60 FPS on it, but couldn't do Ice Climbers? That's bullshit. The entire thing plays up on popular opinion, just like how Gematsu did.
I guess Dark Pit was more important to him if this is true.
>Ice Climbers out
>those four shitty newcomers in
Also people not wanting Snake, but him not being in is very plausible
The Dr. Mario icon shows more of his hair and face on the left side, the render doesn't. Hair tuft is much bigger and the eye brows are different on the icon.
Bowser Jr.'s icon and render have totally different coloring and eyebrow shapes.
Not saying this "leak" is true, but those aren't the same renders, or if they are, they've been significantly shooped.
You know what scares as someone who is going to Day 1 or 2 buy this? There has been nothing said about the online portion of the game.
I'm terrified it's going to be Brawl-tier horrible.
You know what, you're right. That looks exactly like that image in the OP.
>mfw Dunk Hunt Dog is an Olimar clone
>mfw dark pit is in and one of his alt colors is pit
>[character] just Xs
Still, what's the fun in a character that looks almost the same as the existing one? You -could- give him a moveset that's totally different, but shit, he's literally a dark clone of Pit even in the game he's from.
I dont get how anyone can like him THAT much.
Alright then, care to explain what his moveset might look like?
Go straight ahead Anon.
The problem is that taking the time and effort to make an original character out of fucking Dark Pit isn't worth it. Even if Sakurai is favoring his own shit, there are other characters in KI that are more unique. Giving Dark Pit a unique moveset wouldn't just be unfairly favoring his own franchise, it'd be fucking retarded inside and out.
Why would anyone even argue for Dark Pit in the first place? Are you just so jaded that you're convinced Sakurai will make the worst decision possible?
>tfw people actually think the dog from Duck Hunt has a chance of being in
UP B-Ducks to recover
Side B- Skeet throw
Down B-Counter,Jumps into the background and where some grass will show up, if the player attacks where he was they'll get shot from someone off screen and the dog will come out of the grass laughing
Final Smah- Pit's Brawl FS only with ducks that go in random
>moveset complety irreal and taking shit not from his game
I'm not even that guy faggot, it would be like wario from wario ware taking the rumble shit he had in his GBA game for his moveset
I'm not that good at photoshop, but you guys can get the idea. We've been through this numerous times already.
I think it went something like, oh man look at all these weapons from Uprising I want to show, I can't change pit too much so I'll dump them onto someone else and make the rest items
I honestly don't care who gets in as long as they're fun
He isn't iconic, he's a fucking dog
And ice climbers were already chose as 8bit ambassadors in melee and dog hunt dog wasn't even considered.
Pit was added due massive fan request
Dog hunt isn't near as popular than the other retro reps or iconic
Not to mention he didn't evn had a trophy in melee and his ducks had then
It doesn't matter who's getting in, because if it's duck hunt dog or bowser jr., sakurai's going to make a hype trailer that will destroy any bad thoughts of the characters like the sheep everyone is. It happened for Pac-Man.
fuck this seems really real.
i've known for sure sakurai was going to cut ice climbers do to 3ds limitations but not wolf or lucas :/
Anyone who genuinely wants Duck Hunt Dog loses the right to complain about ANYTHING Sakurai does.
Is he recognizable? Yes. Is he a good idea for a fighter? Hell to the no.
These are the kinds of people who think Sakurai picks dumb characters, but don't realize their own choices are even worse.
Snake, ivysaur and squirtle cut
ice climbers, dixie and k rool on the next trailer
ghirahim, rhythm heaven rep, duck hunt dog and bowser jr as secret newcomers.
dark pit, lord fredrik, ridley, porky, yellow devil, dark lord, galacta knight as bosses
I tried :/
Would I be happy?
Yes because megaman is already there and everyone else is just icing on the cake for me.
Would I prefer other?
Fuck yeah, fuck dark pit and whoever that human dude is at the end, also dr mario.
I'd much rather see Dixie, K. Rool, Simon Belmont, really anyone interesting
>actually choosing interesting and varied characters
I don't have the necessary skills to make Pit look closer to that pic. Also that Ganondorf.
If Dr. Mario is a costume, how will his alt specials work? Is he gonna toss a giant fucking pill instead of a giant fireball? Or maybe throw a virus? Hey maybe that could work.
I think Dark Pit will just be an alternate costume, as it should be.
As much proof as there is for any unconfirmed character.
Honestly, with Sakurai being how he is, it's not even outside the realm of possiblity that he's already shown all of the newcomers that we're going to get. As long as we think there's more to come the hype will build itself, so what would it hurt?
its real guys.
i cant find any fucking alternative art of the new characters. either the dude is an artist who drew the dog or the new jigglypuff or its real
Yeah that's fair enough, but since Ridley got BTFO all i've seen are Roolfags talking as if he has actually been confirmed.
I honestly can't think of one reason why he'd even make it in because how is he relevant anymore?
Well considering Smash 4 has alternate specials(Mario for example: fireball, fast fireball, big fireball) I was asking how they would compensate for that with the pills. My guess was pill, fast pill, and virus.
Same with Warrio, is way to dark, even compared to other leaked icons.
Dark Pit looks pretty similar to artwork from Kid Ikarus, the pic being tiny and blurred doesn't help much
That's the thing.
There's no reason why an artist couldn't make these.
I'm an artist who does 3d models in my spare time. If I wanted, I could make a new image to use in a fake leak. Thing is, I don't want to fool people.
Just because an image is unsourceable doesn't mean it's real.
Ask that to the hundreds of "leakers" that come and go here every day.
Even if the images don't match up exactly with existing pics, there is such a thing as photoshop, screenshots of games that these characters come from, hell, even Garry's Mod.
I'm calling bullshit until we get a reveal that matches up with this.
Do you guys honestly think this guy did REALLY good photoshops on like 10 pictures and MADE a custom model for duck hunt dog?
Why not just not include Duck Hunt Dog if its fake? That so much extra work with little to no reward.
Also, if this is fake why the fuck would they post it in a format that is super shitty with paint Xs on shit. Letsa take hours in photoshop then use shitty paint to finish.
This could be real guys
>It's real because you can't prove it's fake!
I'll bet you believe in god you christian fuck
Ridley is a stage hazard.
Ridley is too big.
Ridley is not viable because he has been a boss in previous installment.
Ridley would be difficult to make a moveset with given that he constantly flies.
They only showed a shadow, and Sakurai has not commented on it since, despite the obvious confusion from Ridleyfags.
Ridley can be adjusted to a fine size. Look at the plethora of .gifs and images of Ridley being a reasonable size.
Giga Bowser was a boss in Melee. He's a Final Smash in Brawl and 4.
Ridley can be adjusted for Smash like many other characters who do not naturally fight, like Captain Falcon, Wii Fit Trainer, every STar Fox character, Ness, Lucas, etc.
OP, link where the fuck the actual leak came from. Nobody knows where it's from and it was obviously cropped from somewhere. If the original image hasn't been shown yet, it probably doesn't even exist and OP made this himself to show off. Not that hard to import a models of these characters who already have pre-existing 3D models.
I can actually see the Duck Hunt Dog working really well, way better than I could have imagined Wii Fit Trainer working.
Can someone post the link to this "leak"? I'd like to see it.
>Ridley is a stage hazard.
Hinted at but still not confirmed
>Ridley is too big.
>Ridley is not viable because he has been a boss in previous installment.
And Little Mac was a AT before. What's your poitn?
>Ridley would be difficult to make a moveset with given that he constantly flies.
I'm going to assume you've never played Metroid, he's fought on the ground many times before, and has many unique attacks to choose from.
Little mac is a assist trophy
Littlemac is a manlet
Mac is not viable because he has been a boss in previous installent
Mac would be difficult to make a moveset with given that he's constantly on ground and only punches
Give us a counter-argument, then. Saying we're grasping doesn't really solve anything.
The shadow is very obvious and from the stage itself you can see that Ridley is the stage hazard from the damaged walls. /v/ really lacks common sense. Plus Sakurai hasn't yet confirmed it because he knows Ridleyfags' hysteria helps promote the game and generates hype.
This literally is a valid point. Just because Mac is a manlet and was resized does not = a giant like ridley because made small, that would just be ridiculous and would ruin the whole image of Ridley in general and make him a lot less intimidating.
>Mac as an AT
AT =/= boss.
And on the note of giga bowser, he still isn't a character, just a final smash.
>never played metroid
Ridley is for the majority shown to be flying. In the previous smash games as a boss he is flying constantly.
>Hinted at but still not confirmed
He appeared when the words "other boss character appearances" were on the screen.
"Oh, Ridley is also a boss character"
"Ridley is obviously playable and this is just a trick"
You stupid fuck face, there is nothing "legit" about this. And did you really have to bring up the Five Guys shit?
There is no source, OP has been asked several times and has not posted the icons.
Fuck you for telling that other anon to shut up, he's asking a legit question.
>The shadow is very obvious and from the stage itself you can see that Ridley is the stage hazard from the damaged walls. /v/ really lacks common sense. Plus Sakurai hasn't yet confirmed it because he knows Ridleyfags' hysteria helps promote the game and generates hype.
Sakurai doesn't like to tease and drag things out with out a happy ending, which is why he deconfirmed Waluigi, Ashley, Skull Kid ect. with out hesatation. While teasing many characters that have made it in like: Mega Man, Little Mac, Palutena, Pac-Man ect. Why treat Ridley so different?
>This literally is a valid point. Just because Mac is a manlet and was resized does not = a giant like ridley because made small, that would just be ridiculous and would ruin the whole image of Ridley in general and make him a lot less intimidating.
It's really not, scale has been mentioned a lot in the PotDs with Sakurai himself saying "nothing is to scale" not to mention
> that would just be ridiculous and would ruin the whole image of Ridley in general and make him a lot less intimidating.
Just like Ganondorf?
>And on the note of giga bowser, he still isn't a character, just a final smash.
He's still bigger than Ridley and is playable.
>Ridley is for the majority shown to be flying. In the previous smash games as a boss he is flying constantly.
So you're confirming you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Ridley's boss fights in the Metroid games.
Sorry for being blunt, I was just tired of people asking.
I know the guy who made the images, they were made and cropped exclusively for this image. There is no real "source" image.
All most every single picture in the leak are new renders.
Some are close but not the same, so an argument can be made for photo-shop.
But the Duck Hunt Dog and Shulk pictures are different than anything on the internet. I dare someone to try and find similar pictures.
This isn't 100% "confirmed legit" but it should be looked at.
Isn't this just the Ninka/Vaanrose leak from SmashBoards?
But I've heard that apparently Smashboard mods made that leak as a litmus test...i.e. they vouched for it, but they know it's fake, so anyone making a fake leak with those characters can instantly be thrown out.
But I don't know if that's true.
Because Waluigi has no where near as much hyper and request as Ridley. Ridley has its own faggotry following.
Again, it really IS ridiculous to make a creature portrayed so big into such a small resize neccesary.
Essentially yeah you've just proved my point. I wasn't saying he wouldn't be, but it would ruin his image. Comparing Ganondorf in TP and how tall and dominering he was to how he was in smash, he really was less itimidating.
Final smash is not the same as being a playable character. The final smash occours as a powerful attack, not as a playability mechanic.
No i am confirming that Ridley has been shown to fly constantly in previous SMASH games
>Because Waluigi has no where near as much hyper and request as Ridley. Ridley has its own faggotry following.
Almost every character has there own fags
>Again, it really IS ridiculous to make a creature portrayed so big into such a small resize neccesary.
That shadow already looked slightly bigger than Bowser. He can still be the biggest character in the game.
>Essentially yeah you've just proved my point. I wasn't saying he wouldn't be, but it would ruin his image. Comparing Ganondorf in TP and how tall and dominering he was to how he was in smash, he really was less itimidating.
It is but wont stop it from happening like Ganondorf, which was my point
>Final smash is not the same as being a playable character. The final smash occours as a powerful attack, not as a playability mechanic.
He was still a boss turned playable in some way.
>No i am confirming that Ridley has been shown to fly constantly in previous SMASH games
Yes, and I'm saying he has been on the ground in the Metroid games.
Yeah, laugh all you want guys, but just because I can't provide them at the moment doesn't mean I won't have them later
This was this guy's private project, he only showed me the end result. I don't have any WIP images.
You know who else constantly flew in previous Smash games?
Dedede. Look at the background of Kirby's N64 stage. He might be in Green Greens, I'm not too sure though. Pit, too, constantly flies in his own games, and cutscenes for Smash.
That argument doesn't hold much water.
>mfw this is real and Duck Hunt Dog is really in
Not like Ridleyfags. Stop pulling my plonker Anon
He can be, I'll give you that. Still find it unlikely though
If so then possibly again.
Yes but not playable as a main character. There is a very big difference.
Yes and im saying that it is stupid for Sakurai to ignore previous portrayal of a character in a smash game and then completely change it for the sake of circumstance.
I can't wait for the assmad comments saying he got in over Ridley
this is too few detailed
Duck eyes are too big, I think it doesn't fit smash artstyle
I'm not failing for it
Just like the Wii U one before the e3 that had ridlye and pacman
WHO ELSE IS IN THE GAME
REVEAL THE ROSTER
Wait a second
Why diddy has fur but the dog doesn't?
Why every animal character has fur but the dog?
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS REAL I DONT FEEL TOO GOOD//??
>Duck Hunt Dog
I only have want this to be real.
>People still believing cam-quality leaks
How many times are you guys going to fall for this shit?
>Ice Climbers cut
>Doc re-added as a whole seperate character
>No leaks have ever gotten Robin, only few have had Lucina
At this point I really do not give a fuck.
I got Rosalina and Palutena. Mr. Game and Watch is confirmed returning. Midna is an assist trophy (realistically I never expected her to be playable so AT is great).
Literally all I could ask for more than this is the return of R.O.B. and
a Splatoon repand I'll be 100% satisfied.
My head's already full of fuck. Toon Link is excusable because he's a different size than regular Link and has new moves (I think.)
Lucina plays exactly like Bishounen but is a completely different person.
Dr.Mario on the other hand is FUCKING MARIO with the same moveset but with a different costume. If that warrant a spot I don't fucking know anymore.
>Press any button
Not the poster, but it seems to me like that is the start screen. The character's probably scroll by in the bottom screen while the logo is on the top one.
By the way, the dark pit and dr. mario are actually sorta likely because Sakurai went on record saying any change to the original character --> new character slot.
Look at Lucina. It's not that unlikely.
THIS IS THE WORST
FUCK ALL MY HYPE IS GONE
We already saw the whole roster.
If this leak is real, we got BTFO.
Reminds me of that Palutena leak that happened before her release. Did we ever find out if that was a legit leak, or somebody who made a fake model and it just so happened Palutena was really on the roster?
Yoshi is in between Bowser and Rosalina
THE BIGGEST BTFOING OF OUR TIME!
LEAKER KEEP 'EM COMING!
HOLY SHIT FUCK TITTIES!
I was gonna buy both... now I mightnot buy any.
NO NO IT MUST NOT END LIKE THIS
How to spot an underaged overreacting retard 101.
I can't actually tell if you guys are playing around or actually believe this shit. These things are so easy to fake it's unbelievable. Stop being gullible faggots.
>literally Olimar/Puck-Man clone
THANKS MASAKU, RIDLEY MIGHT GET REVEALED AS BOSS ON TONIGHT'S PYROSPHERE ANNIVERSARY
Sakurai wasn't exaggerating when he said he was having problems making the Ice Climbers work for the 3DS.
The real reason the Polar Bear picture was cut after being accidentally uploaded? Because he didn't want to give people false hope.
>No gameplay vid of any kind
How convenient of you, leaker.
Fake as shit. Return to you seats, assholes.
WHERE IS THE LEAKER'S FRIEND?
WE'RE GONNA SNIFF YOU OUT!