Am i the only one who thinks oversexualization in video games is lame? I don't know how people can get so into it. I know people who literally brought a game just because it had a big set of tits on the box art.
>Am i the only one who thinks oversexualization in video games is lame?
No, I agree with you. I personally don't like it because
I'm repulsed by it, but even if I wasn't I'd still have a problem because a lot of games that are oversexualized use it to mask bad gameplay, and people buy it only for the oversexualization and bad games sell, contributing to the downfall of the industry.
That's because they sexualize girls you are not attracted to. Admit it, if a video game had sexualized little girls in it, you'd buy it without a second thought.
I see merit in this line of thinking myself because the representation of friendship in video games suffers because of sexual pandering. I mean you can't have a kick ass bro in a game anymore without some fucker wanting to have a relationship path in the sequel.
Pic related is the hottest shit iv seen. Still think the game is just terrible and the storyline was written by a 15 year old
>Admit it, if a video game had sexualized little girls in it, you'd buy it without a second thought.
No, no I wouldn't. I rather buy Senran Kagura but too bad that game has shitty gameplay
It kind of is completely dependent on the game and context for me. For example, I like the oversexualization in Bayonetta because it's done in a fun, somewhat novel way that makes her a more interesting character. Other examples of good oversexualization would include things like Catherine and, to a somewhat lesser extent, Lollipop Chainsaw.
Examples like those found in your picture, however, yeah, I think they're pretty lame and they make me embarrassed to play the game. Fortunately, most games with lame oversexualization are shit, so it doesn't bother me.
It's usually shit because
>only teasing, no nudity
>usually attempts to mask bad gameplay
>boring shit that doesn't appeal to my fetishes
>oversexualization in video games is lame?
I have no problem with it. I'm kinda tired of games treating me like I'm a 12 year-old in a christian household. I DO hate games or anime that use T&A and then don't have the balls to actually have sex as a discussion topic. Or games that just use it as an excuse to include multiple sex scenes to appeal to teenage wankers like Bioware games.
So, basically, I guess yes I think it's lame? I prefer stories that are emotionally developed enough that if two of the characters were to fuck on screen, it wouldn't be a big deal, and it wouldn't seem unnatrual to the flow of events.
People under 20 cannot comprehend how slight sexuality is worthwhile. Everything has to be gratuitous or else not there at all. I know this because I remember being a kid and thinking that way to and changing as I got a little older. You will too, whether you like it or not.
Unless you an hero.
I hope you are not being serious with this post. Oversexulaiztion or whatever doesnt make up 100 percent of games so fuck off. More variety is always a good thing and if you like T&A like any man should these games will have their place. Cant play the same type of game all the time.
I have no problem with it but most tend to have shit gameplay. Example, Senran Kagura Burst. Seriously didn't like that game
I bought Akiba's Trip 2 just yesterday and gameplay wise it's pretty decent
If the gameplay is good then I don't mind the amount of fanservice it has.
>I know people who literally brought a game just because it had a big set of tits on the box art.
That means the developers are accurately targeting a niche. There isn't a single thing wrong with this.
I don't like it myself, unless the game is actually novel and happens to be built around quirky aspects (Akiba's Trip, for example).
mostly based on context.
I'm fine with lewd games or games where the selling point is sexualization make oversexualized characters. You can whine and stomp the ground in fury but in the end that thing must sell and it's a market, just as mobile games are.
When a game starts doing shit like pic related, I also think it is fucking lame.
I mean really we had Dancer, HP, Assassin and Alchemist who were pretty fucking sexy already.
>preferring busty anumu chicks over sexualized lolis makes me a normalfag
Fuck you m8
There's a big difference between needlessly hiding sexual elements and just shoving them up where they simply do not fit.
I don't think having sex scenes itself is any kind of problem with Bioware games, rather than all the rest is.
But true, many Japanese games seem to hide otherwise poorly designed and cheap gameplay behind it.
And people ARE swayed by it, just look at this thread. It can cause casualbite to people, then they start complaining about people who whine about women's rights, which has nothing to do with the actual issue. For example here
>I know people who literally brought a game just because it had a big set of tits on the box art.
Why? There is so much free porn and hentai on the internet I don't understand these people
>go find porn with tits
>buy a 20-40$ game with tits that are always covered and are the shape of beach balls
2. SL solely for them actually going to WoE to get beaten to death.
Lol if you don't think people buy games because of cute/hot girls in them
Nigga people spend hundreds of dollars on merchandise just because it has cute girls on them. Spending $50 on a game is nothing for these types of people.
In which case I play something like AA2 where I can actually see the boobs
Are there any actual cases of sexualization or fanservice bringing down a game's quality in some way? I'd imagine a game with super serious themes suddenly started throwing fanservice out of the blue would break the atmosphere but I haven't encountered those type of cases myself.
Besides it's not like movies, books, comics, photography or other media are devoid of sexual stuff either. I don't really get people who say that sex should somehow be "seperated" from vidya.
Don't like it? Don't buy it and stop worrying about what other people like.
It's not hard.
Depends. I don't like it when the art is too animesque and generic because it just annoys me. Specially when it's coupled with animesque voices and writing.
Totally ok with stuff like DOA or Vanillaware games.
This is the reason why I don't play JRPGs. Its gotten really sickening, as if the girls are the gameplay.
>This is just facts.
The kind of people I know who would do that are Joe six-pack normalfags who just like tits. Same people who go see Transformers cuz dat Megan Fox ass and huge ass robots and explosions.
There is when you were used to wearing full plate alongside with your male counterpart and suddenly you're wearing a bikini armor. You see I'd be fine with it being for classes like dancer, it isn't cool for classes like Royal Guard or Rune Knight.
I don't mind if the game has gameplay. It's the same thing for games who go out of their way to prevent sexualization. Gameplay is literally the only thing I care about.
Like, okay, remember the ps3 atelier games? they were nothing but fanservice and shitty grinding/fetch quests. that's some awful shit, I regret that purchase.
hyperdimension neptunia? I don't give a fuck, the combat is awesome. it's classic JRPG with no airs or unnecessary bullshit.
of course, i'm well aware that fanservice usually means a game's quality is mediocre.
I think oversexualization of game developers is a bigger issue, I mean when a game dev cheats on her boyfriend with five guys among them her boss and a journalist from kotaku that promoted her game that should be pretty big news
I don't they are ever meant to be realistic
>Am i the only one who thinks oversexualization in video games is lame
no you aren't i find it cringe worthy too but unlike feminusts and the like i realise its a personal taste thing not some overreaching maw of some shadowy organization of bigots
If you think that skullgirls is bad, you really should just stop playing fighting games. Say what you will about the story, but the gameplay is pretty much the top of the line.
I don't think the sexualization of some games is the problem. It's okay to have some sexual games.
I think the problem is that most games are beginning to follow the same trends, and one of those trends is "get sex to sell the game". It not only ends up making most games feel the same, but makes most games feel slutty as a result.
>>only teasing, no nudity
This, it's clearly absurd having ridiculous plots like this with ridiculously designed clothing when we could just jump the fuckin barrier and make sex scenes a regular thing. Video games are literally the only "art form" where you have to jump retarded loops to get fanservice when we could just be having regular normal people sex scenes like books or movies.
If your game is actually good you don't need to try and distract me with tits and ass. It adds nothing to the gameplay.
Even if your game is good, adding T&A tells me you don't think the game can stand on its own without it, so I think slightly less of the game and dev by extension. There are obvious exceptions, like Bayonetta, becaue the fanservice in that game is so over the top and dumb I find it difficult to think people actually think it's sexy.
Otaku pandering is stupid as fuck. Demon Gaze had good gameplay so I'll let it slide but I have no idea why retards are still buying shit like Neptunia
I hope you enjoy your ecchi at the cost of gameplay or story or anything else you pathetic loser, I don't buy games just to masturbate to them
>hurr hurr I never played Heavy Rain
And I don't give a shit what Nintendo allows or doesn't. I'm just saying we need to get over retarded "taboos" in games
I only mind it when fanservice is the dominant theme ruining or taking away from other parts of the games actual gameplay. Japan has gotten lazy lately using moeshit as an excuse to have shit for content other than looking at cute girls doing cute things.
That is bullshit. If the game is good, and there is T&A, the devs wanted their great game to be even better. It almost never takes away from the game, and if the game is bad, the boobs won't cover it.
>Why does a game that plays like a 25 year old game still cost 40 dollars
You're right, every game that doesn't have QTEs, Kinect functionality and online play should cost 99 cents or less. Fuck platformers, puzzle games, top-down shooters, beat-em-ups, fighting games, RPGS, sims, racing games and everything else that isn't CUTTING EDGE.
That said I wouldn't take OP's game if you paid me.
idgaf about this neckberd shithole
there's literally nothing wrong with that either
You should be holding your waifus hand then 7 faceless niggers jump out and rape her.
You princess carry her to the hospital afterwards, but on your way there 7 more niggers jump out and rape her.
As you finally reach the hospital a further 7 niggers jump out and rape you this time. But it's ok because you got to pantsu peek the nurse as she ignores you.
Sorry, but maybe one day you'll be out of puberty, and you'll realize that shoving tits in something doesn't automatically make it better.
The simple fact that devs think they're making their game "better" by adding fanservice means they don't think the game without fanservice is worth releasing.
>Sex scenes in game sacrifice far more than ecchi since it has entire sccenes created just for the sex taking away dev time from other areas that need it.
Dumbest thing I read so far
Allowing the liberty for developers to depict sex =/= Forced to shoehorn sex in
No I'm just pretending it'd be nice for games to have the same artistic liberties as movies and books so it can actually move forward towards obtaining integrity, which I realize is a fucking joke and a pipe dream with the retardation of games these days but pls let me dream
Who cares about what Japan does?
I have no problems with sexualization as long as gameplay is decent enough. Surprisingly, Dragon Gaze is a decent dungeon crawler.
The fanservice is just icing on the cake.
I guess I would have to turn off the Netorare option in my run.
It happened something similar on Skyrim. I installed a rape mod and while looking for victims, some wizard beat me and fucked me in the ass.
Why do Americans have such a negative attitude about sex? So what if people might get nudged into buying a game because BIT ANIME TITTIES?
Look if you don't like it, that fine, just don't act like an obnoxious twit over it, otherwise you're in the same boat with those who claim it's a problem with society.
> sjw always bitching at how women are sexualized
> never consider for a second that men are just as sexualized in lots of these games
Aesthetically pleasing > realism and accuracy
Unless the series is purposefully going for realism in which case go crazy.
Games are fantasy. We tend to simply eliminate or ignore imperfections and permit certain characteristics/behaviours because we can. They work and are enjoyable because it does not work or are frowned upon in real life.
>Still think the game is just terrible
The story isn't the reason people play. You just don't like fighting games.
inb4 you like street fighter. That's just because you grew up with it.
inb4 you like Blaz Blue. That's just because you like weebshit.
>>>will adding tits to this game somehow take away from the story, setting, or characters?
Except it will. The only ones who deny this are hornball little boys and 20-something manchildren in extended puberty.
Sexualization works both ways. But sjw pretend it doesn't.
which is why it's been main stage at all of one major right?
LOL if you don't think the nerdlingers throw a shitfit for homoerotic undertones in their games or precious anime
See what happened when kyoani announced Free, or try posting about Bioware games on here, and watch the hate fly
And? What's wrong with sex? You can't say they're all bad if you haven't even played most, and are willingly to regurgitate the latest Polygon/Destroctiod/Kotaku review.
It's a subjective term, I will admit.
My definition is when the focus on sex appeal is used as a crutch to the point where it actually detracts from the game overall, but that boundary is still really subjective.
Just because you couldn't get into it that doesn't make it bad anon. I can't stand Dark Souls but i know that's a decent game.
Not him but it isn't
SKB is such a bore fest with constant FPS drops. I honestly thought it was more of a flash game
Shinovi versus on the other hand looks great. Something like a musuo game
Like, I wanna watch Kill la Kill but shit's to embarrassing to watch. How the fuck do I watch it infront of family or friends?
Fanservice la Fanservice. And I hate when a game is full of that shit, too. I JUST WANNA PLAY A VIDYA
Is Asuna full dere mode or does she have the pre-glop personality in the game?
>I can't stand Dark Souls but i know that's a decent game.
Not especially. The atmosphere and world is good, but the combat is rudimentary at best. Its nothing amazing, just teaching you to go back to basics and not fucking about until you understand that. Most of the time youre simply given an unfavourable environment to do so, making the best or only option to simply cheese shit or play super fucking cautiously and drag the fight out.
I just realized that many japanese games have weird, to say the least, themes regarding little children and women. Is this some peculiar culture thing? My mind just cant fathom how that stuff's legal here and how there seems to be actual interest for it.
God I fucking hate these.
Why can't people be allowed to like the right one?
Or even both? I know it's Bioware and how shit they are but why can't both stereotypes be "allowed"?
>There's a huge disparity in the amount and general acceptability of it, though.
You're right. You can have as much "manservice" as you want and no one will give a shit. Maybe someone somewhere will say it's gay and call it a day. Meanwhile, one fictional girl wearing skimpy clothing is enough to have landwhales and white knights start a political movement against it.
The reason there wasn't much "manservice" is that most people who play and make games are men. There's almost no demand for it. It's not a question of acceptability.
>play kamidori on a whim
>oh, i guess i have to pick one of three heroines
>romance a heroine, lose virginity to each other in vanilla as fuck scene
>next act starts
>tsunami of sex scenes spill out like the opening of a flood gate
1. Dont. If theyre not accepting or understanding of such things then they probably dont want to watch any anime/games in the first place.
2. (Dont) Give a fuck. Thats their problem.
I lived with some guys who thought that CoD, AC and Fifa were the peak of their game library and played Neptunia while they meandered in and out. They were kinda "what the fuck is this" at the start but once I finished it they kept coming back to see what else I was playing because it was all so mystical to them.
Pretty much this: >>258542829 if this kind of stuff continues to be a problem move out of your christian household then. Get your own place mang. Of course my dad wouldn't give a shit at my place, he watches more fanservice shit than me.
People who defend overuse of fanservice are mouthbreathing piles of biles. It's like watching a movie about the rise and fall of a senator in which every woman in every scene is wearing bdsm attire and 4th walling to tell you "HEY DID YOU SEE MY BOOBS", "HEY MY BOOBS ARE TOTALLY SHOWING SOOOOO HOOOOT!".
Just watch a fucking porno shiiieet.
Only in GGO
this is the stupidest argument that has ever reached 4chan
you two aren't even talking about eachother
he is saying "people who automatically assume fanservice makes the game garbage are dumb" and you are saying "people who love when a game is pure fanservice are dumb"
You aren't even arguing with eachother. You are just angrily stating your opinions without even looking at other posts.
>Just watch a fucking porno shiiieet.
Are you incapable of looking at and enjoying breasts (real or not) without feeling the need to masturbate? The fuck is wrong with you dude?
It's an AU SAO version of her, blue is her GGO avatar.
>automatically calls out tumblr
Remember when it was safe to think a big titted girl with heels and a thong running out into battle was pretty stupid and no one would jump on you for it? Then SJW shit came and everyone is all up in arms about anything that could possibly be said by one of them.
I just think a chick in practical armor is cool, especially in games where that's what everyone else wears. I don't mind it if the aesthetic is over the top and silly anyway though.
/v/ is becoming the same as SJW's except at the other side of the spectrum, just to be contrary. Every game DOESN'T need to have scantily clad women, nor am I saying NO GAME EVER should have it. I just want some variety.
Indeed it is. Im personaly a fan of medieval stuff, but boobplates arent offputing for me, unless the whole worldbuilding setup of the game becomes obviously inconsistant. That not only includes general art direction, but the other themes, how seriously the game takes itself, the realism aspect etc.
To be honest, very few games manage to fumble on making it in poor taste, where its obviously a general failure of the art director of the game.
Pic related. It looks so obviously amateurish, as if whoever made this finished DAZ/Poser university. The themes of the game seem serious aswell, but the lady is running in some short shorts and the small top and it just doesnt fit in throughout all the elements of the game.
While something like this >>258543405 looks perfectly acceptable for me, it obviously doesnt take itself seriously.
That's such a childish way to look at it. The feminist crowd does nothing but bitch about everything. That causes a reaction from others who don't want pandering to an audience that is is less than 1% of total sales and hurts the overall narrative.
>the rise and fall of a senator in which every woman in every scene is wearing bdsm attire and 4th walling
That has literally never happened in a game.
Hey you...Yeah you.
Shut the fuck up.
>At least the way you made that statement make you sound like you dislike lolis.
There is literally nothing wrong with this. Normal people don't like lolis and you aren't entitled to our respect you closet pedo piece of shit.
Hate it in video games unless it's a porn game. It's basically an excuse for shitty gameplay. The more fanservice, usually the worst the game. I'm waiting to get Shinovi Versus and get proven wrong though.
What >>258543568 said, fighting games is a genre that thrives off good gameplay, and a lot of fighting games are also well known for fanservice.
You can add hack and slashes to that, like ninja gaiden black or DMC too.
This is one of my only reasons for watching.
>Are you incapable of playing and enjoying a game(real or not) without feeling the need to have sex sold to you like a Neanderthal every second? The fuck is wrong with you dude?
The blue hair is her avatar, she has black hair IRL.
The game is supposed to be an AU with a few differences, one of them being Shino being stuck in SAO, a game where your avatar reflects what you look like IRL.
Though that kinda throws a fucking wrench into Leafa being there considering she's also an avatar that looks nothing like her real life player, but oh well, it's a money grab, not expecting any real effort when it comes to consistency.
Some women have big tits. Tits comes in all sizes. But sjw would have you believe that it's impossible for women to have large tits. They want you to think all women have small ass tits like themselves.
So when a character in a video game has tits, they go nuts and start saying screaming like someone is oppressing them.
Ive never much been into games that had so much emphasis on skimpy clothing or romancing characters. I always thought making all the characters practically naked girls was tactless and it would be way too akward playing them because Its like softcore porn. I prefer my porn in actual porn not vidya.
But at the same time I dont care that they exist, or think they should be banned, or that anyone who buys them is a misogynist ciscum shitlord rapist. Thats the seperation from SJW.
I look forward to the harems reaction to his trap avatar.
In my opinion I don't mind a lot of fanservice in a game, if the fanservice is gratuitous it's because that's one of the selling points of the game.
Either way the only reason I see why people would complain is because they're either playing these types of games near family members or in public, which you shouldn't even be doing in the first place if you care about your image.
If you hate these types of things in video games, why are you even bothering to try them? It was made for people who want a lot of fanservice, they're the audience and you should just stick to western games because the nips tend to have more fanservice in their games.
I don't care. I don't like it and I don't buy it but I know it's for people who don't have a regular sex drive due to reliance on masturbation. But fuck, let them have their titillation, who are you to say what reason they should or shouldn't buy games?
Actually Kirito isn't a girl.
They kinda screwed up in the adaptation, in the book they explained that you can't have a character of the opposite sex, it causes a whole shitload of issues in VRMMOs, and they outright said Kirito had a male avatar that just looked female.
>The art of the direction which he likes was prepared
I'm saying they screwed up because they never really explained that.
I don't think they outright said the avatar is male, but it's still safe to assume that because unless they say otherwise they're still following the novel.
Save it for your high school newspaper buddy
Look faggot it doesn't matter. This isn't fucking Econ 47. You understood the metaphor. You didn't even argue the point and now here you are arguing semantics. Neanderthals didn't have video games either. I wonder why that didn't come up in your buttflustered response.
I gave the benefit of the doubt, your small brain could comprehend the importance of context of the chains of replies or at the very least the thread itself.
Not with any definitive terms. They never explained why him saying he was a guy IRL would translate to him having to be a guy ingame.
The novel takes at least a couple minutes to explain it, and considering how much the show loves to deal with internal monologues I don't get why they didn't take two minutes to explain it.
The point was irrelevant to begin with because I basically play video games of all types. You clearly limit your choices based on preconceptions and a fear of seeing breasts lest you jerk yourself to death.
Keep living in your black and white world you racist fuck.
>s-stop liking w-what I don't l-like!
>They kinda screwed up in the adaptation
No. Maybe they screwed up in the subs you're watching, but the show itself makes it crystal clear that Kirito got an ultra rare trap avatar and is very much male and that he only pretended to be a woman to avoid an awkward situation with Sinon.
I hate sjw. Why can't they just let people enjoy the little things.
Sure some games have fanservice like Bravely Default. But that's actually one of the minor things about the game. If they don't like it, nobody forces them to wear the costumes. But don't force everyone to not have the option just because you don't like it.
Hell, most of these sjw don't play these games anyway. They just bitch and moan about it and make everyone suffer.
Honestly if a anime took 2 minutes to explain that, it would be a shitty anime. Just him talking with that guy who wanted to buy the aviator was enough for me to understand it.
I agree, they should just shut it and let people enjoy their things without meddling, it's not like a game portrays reality.
Fuck them all. Censure is one of my most hated things in this world.
>I'm sorry you're too prude or vanilla to understand.
Is this something only basement dwellers can understand or something?
This, when sexualization is just one of the many things in the game I'm okay with it, when sexualization is the ONLY thing about the game then it's retarded and people who play those games should just kill themselves since hentai/porn is way better and you don't have to suffer through the shitty gameplay those games offer.
>wanting to play a shit game
It doesn't even matter if it's sexualized or not, if a game is shit why would you even play it? You can find cheesy plots and little girls being little girls in a bunch of anime and like I said you don't have to suffer through shitty half-baked gameplay
What part of "except at the OTHER side of the spectrum" did you not understand? SJW aim to push their ideas on everyone else and call RAPE, MALE FANTASY, PATRIARCHY at anyone enjoying tits and ass in a game. /v/ now turned around and does the same screaming SJW, FEMINIST, ANITA PLS when someone DOESN'T want tits in a game. Both are retarded attitudes.
Everything doesn't need to be underage loli quest fanservice pandering and everything doesn't need to feature stronk independent women who don't need no man cause they already look like one.
I LIKE lolis and I LIKE fanservice, I just would like it if there was a little more variety instead of everything from Japan having to be all pandering and everything from the west having to be all feminazi approved.
>i dont like fanservice because it MUST come at the expense of something else
>People only put fanservice in games because if aren't good!
I really hope you faggots have stopped using those retarded arguments.
They may offer some choices of interactivity. The focus is obviously not inovative gameplay mechanics, but the characters themselves. Hell, majority of japanese games are stuck in an arhaic JRPG system anyway, with cheesy plots and the like. Look at the atrocity that FF13 was. There is an audience for less than perfect games. Especially in japan.
This thread shows /v/'s lack of reading comprehension is bad
Nobody is demonizing fanservice or saying that any game with fanservice is automatically bad, what they're saying is that when that's the only selling point of the game, which is shit in every other aspect, then it's bad.
Sure. But having a market doesn't make it any less bad, on the other side of the spectrum we have the shitty sjw pandering Gone Homos and Dominique Pamplemousses
Don't berate me for criticizing bad games, even if they have an audience, even if that audience browses /v/. I don't give a shit.
>game has a black character
>no indication that its existence has anything to do with pushing agendas or whatever
>"WHY IS IT NOT WHITE? FUCKING TUMBLR THIS GAME WILL BE SHIT PLEASE CHANGE TO WHITE"
>the game has sexual themes
>automatically dismiss it as shit
Why? I don't get it. Fanservice and good gameplay aren't mutually exclusive. When people defend their tastes your only response is to insult them. Are you so desperate to feel superior to others that this is what you resort to?
Stop, just stop.
Except there are already a ton of people in this thread that have said puttin in fan service at all is to the detriment of everything else.
If that isn't demonizing I don't know what is
A medium isn't made for anyone, it's not illegal for them to make their games and if you want them to stop it's just censorship, I thought SJWs were hated exactly because they want to censor what they don't like so why do the same?
Of course I do, because you said "oversexualization", instead of something like "heavy sexualization" or something. Oversexualization always means that it's too much. That's, like, the definition.
In any case, I know what you mean, so yeah, I do think that it can be lame. Sexualization can be done right, but if it's just tacked on with no real subtlety or anything interesting about it, then it just feels like a lazy way to get people to buy the game.
It's like putting the icon of your Youtube video to be a hot chick. It pulls in a lot of people when your content isn't good enough to do that on its own.
Honestly, I can't imagine this:
do you people actually buy games without a second thought because you see something that makes you horny?
Porn is free.
Depends on the game, for me, and the context.
If it's an action game with crazy combos and taunts and shit, then having a bunch of T&A on the screen rocking out with their cocks out is awesome.
If it's a VN type deal with 40 hours of romance side-questing to get to some lewd, then that's pretty cool too.
But if it's just sort of there and doesn't fit the tone at all, then I don't really like it. Stuff like Persona 4, where you can give all of the girls fetish gear for combat for some reason, but it's somewhere between the two. I don't mind the option to do so, but I don't pick those outfits by choice.
To be fair, most of the messages are useless because the only shit you need to know about is hidden walls. It's not dark souls, you're not looking all over the place for traps and ambushes, all you usually gotta worry about is damage floors and hidden doors.
So, obviously, everyone just tries to write lewd messages.
That was the greatest burn in video game history I have seen.
I understand the hate for trying push their agenda, but why does /v/ jump on anyone who wants some variety instead of all fanservice? Their reaction is the same as SJW who immediately label you some rape apologist misogynist for enjoying some fanservice games. They're just pushing for opposite sides of the same coin, don't like fanservice or find it's out of place in certain games? You must be a tumblr feminist. This thread is proof that no one can have an opinion that isn't part of the current anti-SJW hivemind, and it wasn't always like that. If you don't realize this you're fucking blind and jumping on the bandwagon.
Am I saying SJW's and tumblr isn't fucking cancer? No. I'm just saying someone isn't one of them simply because they don't take the exact opposite extreme on the issue.
>why does /v/ jump on anyone who wants some variety instead of all fanservice
Because there IS variety. The number of games without oversexualization severely outnumber the ones with it.
So the games that do get criticized are done so unjustly, because they're obviously meant to cater to a niche, and you people are trying to deny it as if they're affecting everything else.
I find it ironic that video game stores/curators such as Steam or the consoles treat pornographic video games as some sort of plague that mustn't infest their userbase. Getting past the obvious comparison of them not allowing sex but being fine with extreme violence & psychological horror games I find it hilarious how a game like Witcher, Dragon Age or Mass Effect reaps great profits out of presenting or at least hinting at sexual encounters.
It's clear that most people playing video games are fans of pornographic content but the subject is still taboo. If it's not stigmatized, there's at least a disclaimer whenever someone talks about porn games "I feel dirty just watching that etc.". People are afraid to admit they enjoy it for fear of being labeled.
I think sex in games should not only be okay but appreciated. Devs should be free to explore & present these kind of games without fear of repercussion in terms of sales or reputation. Maybe then we'd get some genuinely interesting (and maybe multiplayer?) romantic experiences and not just shallow blowup doll simulators or sex games disguised as something else.
>/v/ is now full of normie homosexuals.
y-yeah... b-boobs are bad... sexuality is inhuman. im so mature for my age.
I honestly have always disliked pandering. It's like "hey, you don't want a good story or gameplay, right? You only care about tits and ass, so here you go, give us your money so you can jerk off". It's just straight-up insulting honestly, I don't know why (some) weebs eat it up.
But I coulnd't give less of a shit about "oversexualization" like they did with Samus if it still means the character is good. I mean, I think the rocket heels are a bit too Bayonetta, but as long as she's competent and not some crying moeblob IDGAF.
People still buy them for some reason, though.
Are we necessarily talking about eroge games? I don't know too much about exactly what "eroge" implies when it comes to games, but basically it's a game that focuses heavily on erotic content, right? In which case, then yeah, I don't mind that. If it's a game about erotic shit, then of course it makes sense to have erotic shit in there. I'm talking about Ivy's tits in later Soul Caliburs. Stuff that makes me think that they don't have any confidence in their actual gameplay, so they just have to crassly pander hoping to draw in people. Like, you have people like this:
that apparently "buy games without a second thought" if they feature something that makes them horny, whether or not the gameplay lives up to their standards. My problem is when you take gameplay that doesn't mesh with sexualization, like a third-person shooter for instance, then put absolutely no effort into making it fun (basically make it look like shovelware), then put some cute grills in there, call it "Bullet Girls" and suddenly everyone wants to buy it, despite the fact that you can get cute girls anywhere and the actual gameplay does nothing to work with or help the sexualization aspects.
You mean undersexualization?
Actually, most of these are somewhat of a letdown. It's typically a short tease that typically just briefly interrupts the gameplay...
I wouldn't mind getting *more* erotic content that is added as part of the story and so on.
same, if a game is
funfirst and fanservice second, I've got no issue. But all these games that are just "look at boobs/ass then do some tedious shit until the next time you get look at boobs/ass" are insulting on many levels, mainly that developers think you're too stupid to fucking google porn and go to any of the millions of free sites that come up first
Yeah, you and me both sister. Those people arent even self aware when they buy these games, theyre like animals, they dont know what they want, man. It should be stopped, its complete exploatation of their animalistic desires, man. Sexuality is pure evil.
I was gonna make a new thread about existing adult games but I guess I'll post here.
What are some adult games that you'd recommend that are not hentai/anime?
I'm looking for stuff done by western indie devs, maybe stuff in Unity or Unreal.
Best I've found so far are XStoryPlayer which is WIP but looks promising, 3DXchat which looks great but it's a fee/month game and the Infinite realities VR model demos which isn't really a game.
There really isn't much out there sadly.
Oh, and if you're gonna do it, do it on both sides, male and female. I mean, it's only fair.
I'd rather the devs did something they thought was great, and it if I think it's great too, then even better! Of course, they could put in T&A and then I might not bother, but then it should be because they want it, not because of some cynical "well, the neckbeards want cute lolis, so put some in there".
the difference is that most items "pander" by being useful fucking products.
Economically, there is no reason to spend money on fan service when you have an internet connection, therefore these are not good products
Fanservice almost invariably improves the quality of an already good game, but when it's used to mask the mediocrity of a game (which happens an awful lot) it's pretty grating and insulting.
I agree. I find it incredibly jarring to be fed a serious storyline, only to be interrupted by five minutes of hot springs, then straight back to the plot with barely a pause.
seriously, even if the male fan service is played off as "hey look at how weird this is when we have dudes do it" it's still more enjoyable than having the males be yes men for the player who bask in the glory of your harem
I like to fiddle with Klub17. Theres no story or goals or anything like that, but a good character customisation, good animations, scenes, facial expressions. I think if they had a more fleshed out dynamic personality aspect, it would be amazing. Default characters are ugly as shit, so its best to make your own.
Yeah, probably, but that doesn't really happen nearly as often now, does it? I mean, if guns were as universal and common as shitty fanservice I'd probably be bitching about that too, but it's not a turn-on except for /k/ommandos and as such games don't really spend half of their cutscenes longingly gazing over the barrel of a AK-47.
As far as i'm concerned, that game is deep down in the uncanny valley, and the terrible voice acting doesn't help either.
This is actually why I think most porn games are drawn or animated in a non photo-realistic way.
It'd probably take some serious budget to get a realistic porn game out of the uncanny valley...
>play Arkham Asylum/City
>Fuck yeah Batman is gret whoo
>Poison Ivy cutscene
>"Oh we're just gonna place the camera right behind her ass in this particular scene, it's totally the best angle for this scene
I mean, it was a great ass. I'm not denying that, 10/10. BUt holy fuck devs, I have internet access. I can look up porn, hardcore or softcore at literally any fucking opportunity. This is like you going nudging me in the ribs and going "eh? eh? you like it, yeah? us boys, amirite?"
Honestly, all it did was give me a boner and completely removed all the villians indimidation. And don't even get me fucking started on Catwoman, what fucking tripe.
My problem with this and this type of games (Illusion games fit nicely in here) is that it's missing the crucial part of a stimulating erotic experience. The buildup. If you're just gonna look at naked shit might as well just open a porn site. A story, some teasing or even just some interesting mechanics can do much more than a photorealistic vagina. Visual stimulus is great when you're a teenager.
I think its pretty good. I dont make realistic characters though. I make devils, orcs, elves ( not very good ones), also put on french voiceover to make it somewhat atractive. Its not perfect, but it has good qualities imo. Like the fairly detailed and responsive animations ( in comparison to most others).
It's not lame, what's the problem with it?
I don't like gay stuff in my games like Bioware is doing lately, but other guys love it, so good for them. But I love games with some nice girls on it, what's the problem?
I just googled OP's game and now I want to play it because of those tits. The game would be probably boring garbage without it, I assume, but I still want it.
Honest man. Nothings wrong with some simple kinky sexual satisfaction. Or a cheap satisfaction of unlocking some iron sight on a generic shooter game. Its video games, choose your experience.
What if Poison Ivy had been all "Fuckin' batman, check out these tits, bet you wish you could have em" and then snapped a someone's neck with them
would that be okay? Since she's still being sort of intimidating?
Nigga seriously? There is a whole movement in games dedicated to this, don't play dumb.
Well, after giving it slightly more thought:
That would be amazing, and anyway, she IS supposed to use her looks to control other, so it's not the worst character ti do it on.
But more importantly, if it was a game like No More Heroes, it would have fit right in - that's exactly the kind of game for it and that's totally what Travis would do. But Batman woulnd't, and doing it in the Arkham games broke the illusion that I WAS Batman. Batman woulnd't check her ass out, and neither should the player, if you want to keep the immersed.
Anyway I'm making a bigger deal out of this than needed. Atleast it wasn't Catwoman. Fucking high heels, really? Was I supposed to take her seriously as a character, she's one step from being a really annoying Bayonetta.
>tfw I prefer the gurls fully clothed, in casual non-exposing clothing or wearing practical armor because it leaves more to imagination and I find it hotter than skimpy clothing and chainkinis
There is nothing wrong with it, people just complain about it because they're retards who think that video games should be like modern art with ugly characters and a psuedo intellectual story (aka bioshock infinite) that makes them feel like they're doing something important besides entertaining themselves and having fun.
It just gets boring after a while. It's alright when one or two games has oversexualization and fanservice, but when Japan starts pumping out every game with it, I'm just like ehh
>tfw /d/ will never have fully-clothed or practical armor fetish and will just repost futa for all eternity
Bullshit. You can't sit the fence on this one. You get one free cheesecake or one free pie of your whatever respective flavor you desire. Both desserts have the same volume and same mass.
Which do you choose?
you're now realizing these games are targeted at japanese kids going through puberty, you fucking twat. unless you're 16 or are a fucking manchild who refuses to grow up at least a little bit, don't buy them. don't look at them.
Op, that is some shiny bait you are using.
Look... *sigh*... there's some things you can criticize on /v/ and Japanese fanservice isn't one of them.
We all like ass and titties. Like that epic rap song by DJ Assault. You know the one. Ass... titties.. ass and titties.. ass ass titties titties ass and titties... ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass.
Literally none of us should have girlfriends so it's perfectly fine to be a biased.
>lots of sexualization
>good gameplay, story and characters
>"realistic" characters and tumblr "lol everyone is a gay dragon transpolygender schoolbus" sexualization
>shit game overall
Games that thrive entirely on fanservice (Senran Kagura, Neptunia, Atelier to an extent) are stupid and I hate seeing threads about them because even if they do have substance, all people talk about is MUH WAIFU WHY CANT SHE BE REAL.
>all people talk about is MUH WAIFU WHY CANT SHE BE REAL.
How new can you be?
I have yet to see a game which was attempting to bring to the table a series of "SUPER SERIOUS GRIM AND DARK" themes that put in sexualization which was in any way a notable feature.
The sex in The Witcher was a very minor part of it.
A game like Disgaea tends to be ridiculous from start to finish, so seeing things like a character talking about how their tits aren't big enough is a normal occurrence.
Games like Senran Kagura sell BECAUSE of the sexuality.
The only things I can think of where the sexual nature of attire has overall impacted the quality of design are things where a once modestly dressed character in one design magically becomes a slut in the following design (unless of course it matches with a changing characteristic not seen in a singular picture).
yeah this anon is right. most christians dont even do or follow christian teachings to even call themselves christian. celebrate easter, hate all the right people is all you gotta do.
>your entire post
get the fuck out.
Fanservice is great. I especially like it when you can dress up your girls in cute maid outfits.
>game is good and has good characters that people fall in love with
>"waaaah why can't they play fat lesbian trucking simulator like me?"
nope the games are good, you're just mad because you can only focus on the sexualization instead of the fun
I'm not the kind of person to whip out my dick in the middle of a game and start fapping, even as an extremely sexually repressed individual. That's just not why I play games.
The only games I fap to are H-games, and I'll always pirate that shameless garbage.
yes, the anime did a shit job with the characters.
I want to see more of that girl on the right
why is it that fucking best of the best slim&stacked women have ONE fucking photo that gets'posted for years and nothing else? fucking why?
they're fun and each game improves, in the newest one pic related is too hard for japan to beat that it halted sales
Maybe you need to actually play those games before you talk shit about them.
As a general rule, bad games are punished here even if they have fanservice or fanservice is the only appealing point of said game. For example, you won't see anyone on /v/ praising the first Neptunia because even if it provides good fanservice, the gameplay is awful. Those other games you named are good and that's why only faggots or women hate them.
>comparing superman 64 to a well made game because you can't think of a reason to hate on it other than "hurr durr waifus"
"standards", it's always funny when some idiot brings in words like that. Somebody is having fun with a video games you don't like and suddenly they have low standards? Just fuck off already.
okay, there's a difference between legitimate difficulty and Yomi
she's on literally the second stage and can take half your health in a matter of seconds while you have to chip away at her like a peasant, and it being the second mission you have no idea how to handle the camera and properly evade attacks and deal safe and consistent damage
it's a very real and unfair difficulty spike and hopefully the upcoming patch will bring her more inline with the other tutorial bossfights
>people like things I don't like
>instead of playing something I like, I demand them to change it
>well made game
>made by the esteemed developers behind the Simple shovelware series and Oneechanbara
>same four enemies throughout the entire game
>every map and stage plays almost exactly the same
>difficulty is nonexistant, unless playing Frantic on late-game stages. Then enemies just two-shot or stunlock you from offscreen.
>gameplay consists of "mash Y, then A, then Y again". With Yagyuu, you can beat every level by spamming her long-range attack with one hand and browsing with /v/ with the other
It's garbage with the characters as its only redeeming value. Get fucked.
>implying the maids and chapter 5 extra missions weren't hard
choke on my wiener fagbreath
>Am i the only one who thinks oversexualization in video games is lame?
Nope. I'm glad /v/ hasn't turned you into a reprobate...
I don't care. If you don't like the game, don't buy it. If you buy a game because there are big tits on the cover, you're a fucking retard. You research the game before you buy it.
It's a video game, if the woman has a big ass and huge tits, that's appealing to me, it's not hurting anyone else. The figure in the game isn't real.
There are bigger asses and tits in this world that you can't even fucking imagine, would you walk up to them and say "Your big tits and ass is offending to me" and then go blog about it on your Tumblr account? Yes you would because you're a faggot and I hope you fucking die. Nothing you say or do will have an effect on anything whatsoever.
not him but this isn't as clear cut as you seem to think
There are obvious advantages and disadvantages to both cheesecake and pie.
I mean on the one hand you have some unbeatable textures and clear, crisp flavors with cheesecake but pie is so much more flexible in the amount and variety of flavors it can deliver.
I think this warrants its own thread, I cant be the only one who thinks this
Hating fanservice for "pandering" is the same as hating captin cruch for being more dessert than breakfast
I honestly have trouble believing that people buy games on sexualization alone. Well, non hgames anyway which are cheap and made for fapping. Shit like DoA is often bashed for its scantily clad characters and lewd physics but honestly its a pretty decent reversal fighting game and I'd wager thats the reason it still has a fanbase nowadays in a world where pornography is so readily available.
Sure, it might influence someones decision to buy it, but if a shitty game has a really sexy main character but is universally agreed to be terrible for its gameplay I doubt anyone would spend full price for it, and if then did I'm willing to bet they would walk away disappointed and would think twice next time.
>Am i the only one who thinks oversexualization in video games is lame?
>Am i the only one
As for "oversexualization", it variates and whether it's lame or not I find to be irrelevant because it's just opinions. That said, if a game has it as a main selling point you generally know what to expect and it's up to you to decide whether it's a game you want or not. Why bitch about a fanservice game existing if you aren't interested in it in the first place? No one is forcing you to buy it and you can just ignore its existence.
If anything I find the complaints about fanservice/oversexualization to become really lame because it's almost all the west bitches about from japanese games nowadays as if they are forced to buy every niché fanservice title or that they somehow are oppressive and/or a problem.
If a niche market is allowed for specific demographic, it should apply to all niche demographics, not just fotm sexual/personality deviation.
It's a part of a whole anon. There's better fighters than DoA, and there's better fanservice than DoA, but mashed together it makes for a fun overall package.
I don't know, the boob physics stuff is so silly that it's endearing.
That's just about the most nonsensical comparison i have ever read.
Assuming that the gameplay is decent and could stand alone without the sex I love it. pic related
some moms wouldn't let their kids eat fun cereal growing up because "its just like eating dessert for breakfast" meaning that the cereal is being unrightfully invalidated by the fact it is fun to eat, just as the game is being unrightfully invalidated by the fact that it is appealing to players
I know what you meant by cereal as dessert. I mean it's a terrible comparison. Not to mention the fact that those cereals are unbelievably unhealthy so your comparison is even worse than I first thought.
This thread reminds me of high school. But no, you're not the only one, but you are one of the few. Personally I think we should hang everyone that wants romance and fanservice in their vidya from the nearest tree. /v/irgins can bungle right beside the SJWs they so despise. I am not so delusional as to think this would somehow safe gaming, but it would definitely be a step in the right direction.
Alright, you guys.
Sexualization in games is pandering.
Just because it happens to appeal to you doesn't mean it's pandering any less.
Further, if your penis is a deciding factor on ANY purchase, you are an idiot.
Just look at this
How can anyone have an easy time just deciding like that?
you're not understanding the point of what i was trying to say, the people complaining about fanservice think video games are supposed to be "artisic" and "productive" as the people who think fun cereal is wrong because breakfast should be "healthy" instead of enjoyable
>Implying every single japanese female character isn't 'm- muh pure virginal waifu, firstu kissu' even when they walk around with loads of cleavage and underass
Female characters that are ACTUALLY sluts would never fly with japanese neckbeards.
>Sexualization in games is pandering.
Pretty much everything in commercial products is pandering. You're using a meaningless buzzword. The idea that -any- kind of sexualization is pandering (which is supposed to be bad, I guess?) is also ridiculous.
>Further, if your penis is a deciding factor on ANY purchase, you are an idiot.
Even porn and condoms?
inb4 >buying porn
Well then, I don't demand my vidya to be art, and yet I recognize that fanservice is more often than not detrimental. Frankly, mixing games and fap material makes for something that fails at both. When I want to fap I'll use actual porn, thank you very much.
But the real problem with pandering is, it's driving the amount of more "regular", authoral vidya down. The cereal market is big enough to sustain a lot of variety, from the usual colored sugar bombs to healthy bran crap.
Unfortunately, the Japanese market for vidya, like anime before it, is becoming more and more geared towards the aforementioned obsessive fans, and driving variety down. I mean when fucking Miyazaki himself calls otakus a cancer, you better listen.
Any similarity with the brown'n'bloom tacticool fad in Western vidya is not mere coincidence. Pandering is detrimental to vidya, whether it's to meatheaded dudebros or sex-starved weebs. It's all focus-tested, lowest-common-denominator crap.
Pandering isn't bad on it's own, but there are people here trying to claim huge boobs and compromising positions are some kind of artistic statement when they very obviously are not.
Does sexuality really bother people though? I don't know, but whenever I see a well-endowed female with showy clothing I don't suddenly stop in my tracks and get offended about it. It's just not all that distracting to me. What's the big deal?
Yes. It's an objective fact. I have met devs at GDC and such who said that they explicitly do this to appeal to teens and neckbeards.
I say it's a cheap way to give attention to characters instead of good writing. Even then creators are afraid nobody will care about them without sex appeal.
This is just annoyingly common in all fiction.
Inb4 hurr feminists take away our fun. I don't want t&a to go away, but I don't like being bored by overexposure.