Why didn't I listen to you, /v/? You warned me about the

They never seem to end.

>>258291981
They'll never end. They'll even repeat the tutorials for mini-games you've already played and finished.

Despite that, still better than Partners in Time.

>>258292170
That's not hard to achieve.

How the fuck did I clock 40 hours into this game?

I think Dream Team had the best boss music.

I don't think they do end. I'm like 9 hours in and they still tell me that I can use the touch screen to mess with luigi, or that I can jump over gaps.

Overworld/battle tutorials stop once you reach the garden area.

Luiginary tutorials last throughout the entire game. There's even one in the final dungeon.

>>258292549
this, i clocked in 40 hrs and i have no idea what happened

>>258291981

Tutorials have always been a staple of the M&L series

It's literally nothing new.

I haven't played Dream Team but both Parterns in Time and Bowser's Inside Story felt way too heavy on the explanation text and tutorials. Really pissed me off.

>Oh look a Mario and Luigi thread!
>this will be fun!
>Partners in Time hate is already starting

Y'know what? Go fuck yourselves. I like it as much as BiT or DT.

>>258295492

I don't remember them being this painful in Superstar Saga.

Matter of fact I replayed that game recently, and I KNOW they aren't as painful as they are in Dream Team.

>>258295801
>Partners in Time hate is already starting
>only one person mentioned PiT

Fuck off with your autism.

>>258296030
>Hurr PiT is bad
>Sure is bro! Internet Hi-Five!

I will never ever tolerate the treatment that game gets. You're all too casual to do the baby enhanced attacks.

All Mario & Luigi games are 2/3rds tutorials.

I can't believe people like all the fucking hand-holding in Nintendo games.

>>258296212
Bro attacks being items singlehandedly ruined the game.

>>258291981

It's not a good game. Sorry OP. It disappointed me too. It's better than PiT though, at least.

>>258296212

The fuck are you talking about? I rocked the shit out of them and I still think that game was lacking.

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>>258296357
They're fun and you're stupid. End of argument.

dat Dreambeats thou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxZbVCH3s_4

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>implying PiT is good

>>258296559
No they're not and you're a fag. /thread

>>258296559
No wonder Nintendo users get badmouthed with posters like this

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So, when will they let you switch between playing as Mario or Luigi on the overworld like in Superstar Saga?

>>258296559
>actually saying "end of argument"

Not him, but that's a pretty shallow way of saying that you have no way to defend yourself.

>>258296841
NEVER
EVER

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>>258296794
>>258296830
>>258296767
>mfw

>>258296853
I wasn't being serious. Can't you read the fucking picture?

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On the subject of Partners in Time, I'm actually on the final area right now. Only M&L game I have yet to complete

Popple being in DT means Wario & Waluigi in M&L5, it's happening

>>258296841
>You will never see Bros. Moves again
>You will never get level ups for your special moves like in SSS again
>You will never be able to switch between Mario and Luigi in the overworld again
>You will never go to a fun kingdom like BeanBean Kingdom ever again

>>258297256
>IT WAS MERELY A RUSE

>>258296357

More like the bosses taking 8 years to kill.

Still a good game but easly the worst of the M&L series.

But thats like saying Rhubarb pie is the worst pie.

>Odd numbered M&L games are the best
>Even numbered ones are the worst

Who's ready for M&L5, GOAT edition?

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>>258297334

How they knock it out of the park inone game and just completely miss the point in the following games?

>>258297416
Wow. You really do have brain problems eh?

First you take a facetious statement and read into literally, and then you misunderstand a clear explanation of the situation as me pretending to be a troll?

Step back and examine the situation. You're a retard

I got it the other day and made it to the end, didn't feel like grinding to beat Dreamy Bowser so I just kinda stopped playing, maybe I'll beat it soon.
Honestly, the game kind of feels slow for a Mario and Luigi game, there are tutorials fucking everywhere, Dream World battles are a total drag, and the platforming sections just feel tacked on, and really, less enjoyable than Bowser's Inside Story.
Still, the Boss Music is the best in the series, the Giant Battles are super great, and the throwbacks to the last couple games are pretty sweet. I'd say it's the worst in the series, but that isn't saying much, it's still a good game, just maybe not $35 good.
Fuck the battle achievements, it flares up my OCD trying to beat them and I begin to enjoy the game a whole lot less.

SS > DT > BIS > hot liquid shit > PiT

>>258297964
The Giant Battles were awful though. Easily the worst part of the game.

>>258297908
You okay, anon?

What's the best Mario RPG, in your opinion? No Paper Marios, just the regular RPGs.

>>258298559

Superstar Saga hands down.

>>258298559
The one with the fetishes

>>258298559
The best? Superstar

My favorite? Inside Story

At least the boss fights are awesome.

About 20 hours into the game.

>>258298559
Superstar Saga by far, including the Paper Marios

In fact I'd say it's the best Mario game ever made

>>258292549
The game lasts around 40 hours. Everyone has an average of that number. I think mine was 38 hours?

>>258298559
Superstar,
Inside story is a close second

>>258292549
I got 45

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>>258296212
>You're all too casual to do the baby enhanced attacks.

Yes, I am.

The game had way more problems than that though.

>>258299312
This. They're by far the best bosses to fight in the series.

>>258297257
>those gross Ed Edd n Eddy marks on the back of baby mario's head

What the fuck are those anyway?

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>>258296338
>implying M&L1 had handholding

I don't think I'll ever recover from the horrific disappointment of M&L2.

I think that was the first game sequel I ever felt seriously burned by. Oh, except maybe Lego Island 2.

>>258299895
stubble

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>>258297504
>mfw the final boss took three goddamn hours

I don't know you guys, I absolutely love these games but I'd say PiT isn't that bad. Sure, it's obviously not as good as SSS or BiS but's definitely a good enough game to stand in its own right.

>>258300509
It's not AS bad as people say, it just feels shit because it's trying to follow-up one of the top ten Nintendo games of all time.

>>258298410
I'll never be okay.

I live in a world where people like Ico
I live in a world where people hate on Dark Souls 2 for faults you can find in every souls game
I live in a world where PiT is the least beloved Mario and Luigi RPG

>>258300730
Well... I don't know, I have very fond memories of it.

Its not that bad you fucking babies

You learn something new, they have to tell you

>>258300954
elaborate on how this is a better game than its prequels

>>258301318
I don't think I'm learned anything new when they told me how to walk and jump multiple times.

>Still talking shit about Partners in Time

Had the best writing and the best plot and best villain

Cackletta died half way

Fawful is way too silly to be taken seriously

Antasma had arguably the best concept except he did fucking nothing, he just wanted to be free and personally wanted to be Bowser's Lacky

>>258300954
If it makes you feel any better I love the cover art and it's a hell of a lot better than dream team.

>>258301392
>a followup game has to surpass it's predecessor.
This is your first mistake. It would only ahve to do that if it was a directly followup with very little mechanical growth or changes. Like... Tales of Xillia 1 compared to 2

but PiT added the time traveling, changed up the combat and tried a totally different tone for the story and setting. If you enjoyed the changes it made to a sufficient degree... it's a good sequel.

Official Mario and Luigi Wiggler fight Tier List

Supreme God TIer
Dream Team Dat Popple

Awesome Tier
Bowser's Inside Story

I forgot it existed Tier
Superstar Saga

5 Years to kill tier
Partners in Time

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Will I be disappointed with this game as much as I was with Sticker Star? I just beaten Sticker Star, and I need something to get that bad taste in my mouth.

>>258301392
>>258301625
Personally, it doesn't have to surpass its sequels, or even be equal, it just has to be a decent game in its own right.

Which if you ask me PiT wasn't in the least bit.

Has it ever occured to people that the reason bosses have so much fucking health in PiT is because your fighting with 4 characters?

>>258301898

Oh fuck no

Compared to Sticker Star, Dream Team is fucking heaven, its still a Mario and Luigi game

Dream Team isnt bad anon, literally the only thing wrong with it is the amount of tutorials, the game is still hard as shit despite the handholding

>>258301898
How do you guys not have fun playing Sticker Star? It's a fun game. If you're playing it in 2014, you should be fully aware of what kind of game it is and what to expect out of it so if you don't think you're going to enjoy it, why play it?

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>>258301318
It's not that point, but I don't like to be treated like a retard.
>Oh look, a new Luigi icon! I bet I gotta use that now
>Suddendly "OH GEEZ LOOKS GUYS, A NEW ICON, I BET IF YOU PRESS R, THEN B, LUIGI COULD DO SOMETHING AMAZING, WHY NOT PRESS R NOW AND THEN B SO YOU CAN DO SOMETHING AMAZING NOW?"
And that's not the main problem, the problem is they remind you how use the powers every now and then. It was hilarious how the first badge shop didn't teach you anything but there's a full blown tutorial in the second shop, and guess what, at that point, I've already bought all the badges from the first store and used them several times.
The game still good, the giant battles are fun, the music is great, the spritework is quality at its finest, the new guys looks interesting and everything looks congruent, but guess what, it can be a bit irritating when the game think you're retarded.
Still better than PiT.

>>258301898
No anon, you will not be.

Dream Team is good, damn good, but the game treats you as an alzheimers patient when you are in the dreamworld and you get tutorials out the ass.
It's still very good, with some of the best level music in the series.

>>258301918
Did people really complain that much about the bosses? The only hard boss in my opinion is Princess Shroob.

I had more trouble with the SS bosses.

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I like Dream Team more than Bowser's Inside Story just because I don't have to play as or walk around in that fat hunk of shit Bowser.

That slab of beefshit made the game world flat and boring, it was horrible, especially when you went back as Mario and Luigi.

Also Fawful wasn't the end boss, NO, HE GOT EATEN BY FUCKING DARK BOWSER. DARK BOWSER. WHY.

>>258302218
The bosses aren't hard, they just take FOREVER to defeat because they doubled their HP when localizing the game.

On the subject of PiT sucking or not

http://strawpoll.me/2358978

>>258301898

Anon

Sticker Star isnt bad

It was only bad because people expected an RPG

Sticker Star wasnt an RPG

It was a glorified Puzzle Game with RPG elements

>>258302534
Ah, well. I like long bosses, it feels much better opposed to bosses you kill randomly and don't expect it.

I've been playing FF6 and it's kind of a letdown to kill a boss quickly.
>The two cranes
Then again I just gained control of the airship...

Did you beat Jr. yet, /v/?

>>258302218

That's because Sticker Star is a fucking Puzzle Game

The fucking Bosses are all puzzles

your supposed to be fight them by finding their weakness, LIKE A FUCKING PUZZLE

THE FINAL BOWSER FIGHT IS LITERALLY A GIANT PUZZLE SEGMENT

>>258302834

Nigga im still stuck at Antasma X

>>258302897
Superstar Saga, we're talking about M&L here.

>>258302897
...
I haven't played Sticker Star bro, I'm talking about Superstar Saga.
That sounds shitty, though.

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>>258303028
Me, too. I don't wanna grind...

>>258297257 here

why the fuck is a Chomp living in the sewer waters

why the fuck does it make me go through this padded crap to hit blocks to beat it

why is this castle so much longer than every area in the game

>>258303256
>>why is this castle so much longer than every area in the game
It's the last dungeon nigga.

I don't remember the chomp though, what?

>>258303256
The final area just drags on and on and on.

>>258303367

there's this fucking chomp hiding in the pipes

>>258303379

>FIVE CHOMPS NOW

FUCK

>>258302834
I beat him on my first try. With that said I'm level 41 and Mario takes two turns and gets to swing his hammer twice or jump three times per turn so I may have been a bit over leveled for it

Ok I gotta know, what the fuck is so bad about partners in time? I played when I was a kid and have awesome memories of it, I can't remember there being anything super bad about it.

Aw shit, I just remembered the 1337 hammer bros in PiT. does /v/ like them?

>>258292549

I think I put almost exactly 50 because I did basically everything

I have no idea how

I know I did not like the last 10 hours but it kept seeming like it was going to end.

>>258303784
I played it as a kid and didn't like it as much as SS, but liked it. I replayed it since then and realized just why I didn't like it and so many more issues about it.

Innocence and nostalgia as a pair make a fucking hell of a drug.

>>258302171
>5.5 world size
>no partners
>need to use specific items to beat bosses and the game scolds you if you try not to
>the entire puzzle portions involving special stickers
>the constant backtracking
>the entire sticker system

If they just fixed the sticker system just a bit like making special stickers into key items are something, the game would be bearable. That was the biggest problem for me. I ended up just looking up a guide to check which special stickers I needed to save up for puzzles and bosses, because I didn't want to waste them and backtrack all the way back to town to get them back. Everything else was just icing on the cake.

What are your builds on level anons?

>Not giving Mario Attack and Speed

>Not Giving Luigi Defence and Luck

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>>258304460

>not balancing them out into two powerhouses of POW, SPD, DEF, and STACHE

>>258304368
>need to use specific items to beat bosses and the game scolds you if you try not to
I never understood the problem with this. Kersti just says you're dumb for not finishing the battle faster when you could, does that actually bother people? It's not like the game actually scolds you by giving you some sort of penalty or something.

PiT's soundtrack though. Listen to this. Gets really good. Actually kind of makes you feel something walking through the demolished village.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRKvvVJ-gGE

>>258304460
Attack on everything
I don't need defense.

>>258304460
I give them whatever stat currently has a 5 or 6 in the roulette.

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>>258304460
>not going all stache

>>258304860
Man do people usually save before levelling up? It always destroys a part of me when I get a low roulette number.

>>258304725
It bothers me because the game is basically telling you to play the way it wants you to play or else you are going to get fucked on bowser for not using the required stickers to beat him.

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>>258304739
All of the games have good osts because the composer is actually really good, knows the themes and tones of each game and the series and composes tracks to fit them perfectly.

>>258305017
It's part of the game. My worst experience was in PiT when I kept getting 1s in every single level up. I considered restarting at several points.

>>258303256
>>258303630

this baby ledge shit is so tedious

SS needs to be remade on the Wii U.

>>258303191
I beat Antasma X and Bowser Jr. at level 40.

It was the most exhausting thing I did this year. Kill me.

ABOUT TO FIGHT PRINCESS SHROOB FOR THE FIRST TIME

WHAT DO I STOCK UP ON

>>258308113
You got that final bros. item that's the huge ass star that falls on the enemies? That's OP as shit if you can mash buttons fast.

>>258308113
It's been a couple of years, but I think the most useful Bros. Move was the Copy Flower.

>>258308113
>implying

if you don't have enough shekels to afford a shitload of every item, you've played like a fucking scrub

>>258291981
I played partners in time because I played superstar saga.

>>258308113
Copy Flowers.

Her shield doesn't take damage it needs hits, so that'll clear it out fast.

>>258292301
>>258292170
i liked PiT. guess i should pick this up then

>>258292549
I took 50 hours to complete it. I thought it was a great game.

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>>258299403
I agree. SS had so much story and creativity. It's one of favourite games of all-time, I'd replay it over and over again.

Except the underwater levels fuck those